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Tyrannohotep
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Some People Have A Major Problem With Rihanna’s Vogue Arabia Cover
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Rihanna’s new Vogue Arabia cover is creating quite a stir.

The “Wild Thoughts” singer, designer and burgeoning beauty mogul is the cover star for the magazine’s November issue. She posted pictures of her two covers, which show her channeling Queen Nefertiti.

Rihanna is a such a fan of the ancient Egyptian queen she even has a Queen Nefertiti tattoo on her torso.

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While most of the singer’s fans were excited about the shoot, others found it problematic. Some people thought the shoot was an example of cultural appropriation, considering Rihanna is from Barbados.

Rihanna has been accused of cultural appropriation before, but she has yet to respond to the accusations stemming from the Vogue Arabia shoot. HuffPost has not received a response to requests for comment from Vogue Arabia or Rihanna.

While it is true that Afro-Caribbeans like Rihanna are predominantly of West/Central rather than Northeast African ancestry, the thing is that this West/Central ancestry itself is a messy stew of different nationalities. So even if Rihanna had chosen to dress up as a West African nationality instead, there's no perfect guarantee that it's going to be the "right" West African group. Like, she might dress up as an Ashanti from Ghana even if it turns out most of her West African ancestry is from Mali or Nigeria. So I think the "cultural appropriation" concept presents Afro-Diasporans with a catch-22 situation if they're going to honor their African heritage through dress.

Besides, I have a hunch that in this particular context, "cultural appropriation" is being used as a pretext for disassociating ancient Egyptians from dark-skinned people of African descent. In which case, it's basically racists posing as SJWs.

What are y'all thoughts on this?

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The sky calling the ocean blue & pots calling kettles black!! Caucasians of various nationalities have & do wear cultural items from cultures that are not white. They enjoy making films where Ancient Khemet is portrayed as a white ruled land with Blacks as servants only.
Now they dig dna tests claiming King Tutankhamen had dna of west European males!
This "cultural appropiation"jive is monotonous as "white genocide"rants from nazis.

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The IRONY of those people complaining...
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Rihanna has a tattoo of Ma'at on her torso not Nef... This is fake news.

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Besides, I have a hunch that in this particular context, "cultural appropriation" is being used as a pretext for disassociating ancient Egyptians from dark-skinned people of African descent. In which case, it's basically racists posing as SJWs.

^ this sums up all of it.
There's no living population culturally involved in the west with a connection to Kmt to complain about this. Who does this offend?

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I really don't put any stock into what Europeans or Eurasians have to say about African history. A black woman could play Queen Tiye and they would go crazy and claim that Tiye was white.

Perhaps the Abusir sample has convinced them that ancient Egypt was a Levantine transplant.

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I like Rihanna she is a very beautiful and sexy singer, model and actress. Rihanna is not appropriating the Ancient Egyptian culture because the Ancient Egyptians were her ancestors since Rihanna recent ancestors came from Africa.

Ancient Egypt was a federation of 42 African tribes or ethnic groups that lived in 42 Nomes or States. Those 42 tribes migrated from East Africa, West Africa, Central Africa, South Africa and North Africa to Ancient Egypt. Members of those 42 Egyptian tribes left Ancient Egypt to create civilizations in Europe (Italy, Spain), West Asia (Palestine, Phoenicia, Mesopotamia), East Asia (China, Japan,), South Asia (India, Cambodia), North America(Olmec,Maya, Micmac) and South America (Peru). Because of the Ancient Egyptian migrations there are descendant of the ancient Egyptians of all races that lives all over the world.

Black people in Africa and the diaspora are the closest descendants of the 42 tribes of Ancient Egypt.The dominant White and Mulato culture of the world always try to exclude the original people of this world the Black people from their history.

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quote:
Originally posted by Elite Diasporan:
The IRONY of those people complaining...

True, they themselves are the inventors of / and greatest culture vulture EVER. Not only when it comes to ancient Egypt, but to every other culture on the planet.

Native Egyptian woman, from Cairo.


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More on Nefertiti's statue. Very much telling.

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Amarna info.

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During a brief seventeen-year reign (ca. 1353–1336 B.C.) the pharaoh Amenhotep IV/Akhenaten, founder of the world's first known monotheistic religion, devoted his life and the resources of his kingdom to the worship of the Aten (a deity symbolized by the sun disk) and thus profoundly affected history and the history of art. The move to a new capital, Akhetaten/Amarna, brought essential changes in the depictions of royal women. It was in their female imagery, above all, that the artists of Amarna departed from the traditional iconic representations to emphasize the individual, the natural, in a way unprecedented in Egyptian art.

A picture of exceptional intimacy emerges from the sculptures and reliefs of the Amarna Period. Akhenaten, his wife Nefertiti, and their six daughters are seen in emotional interdependence even as they participate in cult rituals. The female principle is emphasized in astonishing images: the aging Queen Mother Tiye, the mysterious Kiya, and Nefertiti, whose painted limestone bust in Berlin is the best-known work from ancient Egypt—perhaps from all antiquity.

The workshop of the sculptor Thutmose—one of the few artists of the period whose name is known to us—revealed a treasure trove when it was excavated in 1912. An entire creative process is traced through an examination of the work of Thutmose and his assistants, who lived in a highly structured environment. All was left behind when Amarna was abandoned after the death of Akhenaten and the return to religious orthodoxy.

Dorothea Arnold, Lila Acheson Wallace curator in charge of the Department of Egyptian Art at the Metropolitan Museum, has provided a landmark art-historical exploration of a period when the confluence of religion, art, and politics resulted in a unique epoch.

James P. Allen, associate curator, Department of Egyptian Art, has elucidated this revolutionary era in the history of religion, a time when the governing principle of life was a "sole god, with no other except him," light itself.


In her brief biographical summaries, the Egyptologist L. Green, lecturer at Scarborough College, the University of Toronto, places the royal women of Amarna in genealogical context.


http://www.metmuseum.org/research/metpublications/The_Royal_Women_of_Amarna_Images_of_Beauty_from_Ancient_Egypt


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Dynasty XVIII - Unfinished bust of Nefertiti - Sandstone - H 0.292 - From Tell el Amarna, Berlin (East), Bodemuseum, Ägyptische Sammlung - Excavations conducted on the workshop of Thutmose at Amarna unearthed this bust, which still shows the artist's brush reference marks.
http://www.bergerfoundation.ch/Akhenaton/en/les_faits_historiques.html
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quote:
Originally posted by Elmaestro:
Rihanna has a tattoo of Ma'at on her torso not Nef... This is fake news.

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Besides, I have a hunch that in this particular context, "cultural appropriation" is being used as a pretext for disassociating ancient Egyptians from dark-skinned people of African descent. In which case, it's basically racists posing as SJWs.

^ this sums up all of it.
There's no living population culturally involved in the west with a connection to Kmt to complain about this. Who does this offend?

Nice,


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quote:
Originally posted by Tyrannohotep:

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Rihanna’s new Vogue Arabia cover is creating quite a stir.



I'm not sure if stories like this are worthy to be stories.

Suppose this was before the internet and 30 people wrote letters to Vogue complaining.
There would not be a follow up article saying quite a stir was caused. They probably get hundreds of letters complaining about various things.
Now people put even less effort than mailing a letter , a few tweets and this is "quite a stir"

This "quite a stir" can probably be claimed for almost any topic. Just go look at Twitter
Ten million different "quite a stir" things at any given time.

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It is worthy of a story because most people don't think of African and African looking when it comes to the mid east and north Africa without bringing up slavery.
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But they look alike
One is an African the other an African American. If thats cultural appropriations what isnt?

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"Cultural appropiation","political correctness",urban & rural values,"white genocide", "alt right","islamic terrorism", & "christain heritage"are over used terms used by peasants&elites alike.BTW Rhianna Fenty is Barbadian not African American yet being an American is not so special to boast about.


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