Abd Al-Aziz: "The decision to impose one religion over the entire world was made in the Second Vatican Council in 1965."

Host: "Huh?"

Abd Al-Aziz: "Yes. A long time ago."

Host: "They decided to Christianize the world?"

Abd Al-Aziz: "Yes. The decisions of the 1965 Vatican Council included, first of all, absolving the Jews of the blood of Christ. This decision is well known and was the basis for the recognition of the occupying Zionist entity - Israel. The second decision was to eradicate the left in the eighties. I believe we've all witnessed this. The third decision was to eradicate Islam, so that the world would be Christianized by the third millennium."

Host: "Why is America hostile to Islam, although we never had and never will have the same conflict with them we had with Europe?"

Abd Al-Aziz: "Well, do you remember what we just said about the Second Vatican Council in 1965 and about Christianizing the world? It was agreed upon and pre-arranged. John Paul II prepared a five-year plan, on the eve of the third millennium, Christianize the world. His address in 1995 was based on the assumption that by the year 2000, the entire world would be Christianized. Since the plan was not accomplished, the World Council of Churches assigned this mission to the US in January 2001, since the US is the world's unrivaled military power. They named the decade between 2001-2010 "the age of eradicating evil" – "evil" referring to Islam and Muslims.

"The Crusader war is ongoing, because it has been a religious war since the dawn of Islam. Later, colonialism, missionaries, and Christianization were introduced. The Crusader war is ongoing. The Inquisition courts exist to this day. As I told you, the pope who was appointed a few days ago, headed the Inquisition Court, which is now called the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

"When in January 2001, the World Council of Churches delegated this mission to the US - what did the US do? It fabricated the show of… is it September 9 or 11?"

Host: "11. Please explain this to me."

Abd Al-Aziz: "Yes, of course…"

Host: "You mean to say that the World Council of Churches delegated the mission of Christianizing of the world to the US."

Abd Al-Aziz: "Yes. And how could the US win legitimacy for this without anyone saying that they are perpetrating massacres and waging a Crusader war? It fabricated the 9/11 show. I call it a fabrication because much has been written on this. We are also to blame. Why do we accept a single perspective? Countless books were written, some of which were even translated into Arabic, like Thierry Meyssan's 9/11 – The Appalling Fraud [2] and Pentagate. "Pentagate" like Watergate… He brings documents to prove that the method used in destroying the three (sic) towers was "controlled demolition.

"This is an architectural engineering theory, which was invented by the Americans. They teach it in their universities. They make movies and documentaries about it. They incorporated it in movie scenarios and then carried it out in real life. Why do we accept this?"

Host: "My God, doctor. This is unbelievable! You're saying that this destruction…"

Abd Al-Aziz: "...was a controlled demolition. The building collapsed in its place, without hitting a single building to its left or right. The three towers fell in place."

Host: "In the same method they use in movies and plays?"

Abd Al-Aziz: "Yes, Exactly like that. That is how the US won international legitimacy. You could sense the (9/11) operation was pre-planned because many things were revealed in the days that followed. For example 4,000 Jews caught influenza on that exact day. They set a timer, and all 4,000…"

Host: "By God, you crack me up! They all set a timer and got influenza on the same day. So the building was completely empty of Jews."

Abd Al-Aziz: "Much has been written about this. 150 Congressmen demanded an inquiry."

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Originally posted by tempted:
Is it oil or islam will u fucking people make up your minds?

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Originally posted by newcomer:
And there speaks the next generation of great white hope for diplomacy and peace in the Middle East! It looks like the region is in for more of the same, another generation of diplomats who have learned all the theory, but have a total lack of understanding of how the people in this part of the world feel and who would prefer to go and smoke hash with people they despise in Marina than try to have a decent conversation with people who might be able to give them some insight into how real people in Egypt feel.

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And so the only thing you find to critize is one empty dope that might not even be white. tempted made comments that sounded like he was brazilian, brazilians aren't anymore white than Egyptians. Brazilians took in plenty of political exiles from Nazi germany and gave them institutional posts while the brazilians soaked up their hypcritizy. Man, you people don't even bother to acknowledge that dimension.

And you found nothing suspect Of Abd Al-Aziz's interview? How come so many Muslims paint the Vatican's efforts as a representation of all Christians?

Now you are totally disregarding two points, and making your arguements shallow and inconclusive.

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Originally posted by AMR1:
Egyptian Historian on Saudi Iqra TV: The Vatican's Mission of Destroying Islam was Delegated to the U.S. – Which Carried Out 9/11 on Assignment by the World Council of Churches
The following are excerpts from an interview with Egyptian historian Professor Zaynab Abd Al-Aziz, which aired on Saudi Iqra TV [1] on May 26, 2005. [To view this clip from MEMRI TV visit ]http://memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=708]

Abd Al-Aziz: "The decision to impose one religion over the entire world was made in the Second Vatican Council in 1965."

Host: "Huh?"

Abd Al-Aziz: "Yes. A long time ago."

Host: "They decided to Christianize the world?"

Abd Al-Aziz: "Yes. The decisions of the 1965 Vatican Council included, first of all, absolving the Jews of the blood of Christ. This decision is well known and was the basis for the recognition of the occupying Zionist entity - Israel. The second decision was to eradicate the left in the eighties. I believe we've all witnessed this. The third decision was to eradicate Islam, so that the world would be Christianized by the third millennium."

Host: "Why is America hostile to Islam, although we never had and never will have the same conflict with them we had with Europe?"

Abd Al-Aziz: "Well, do you remember what we just said about the Second Vatican Council in 1965 and about Christianizing the world? It was agreed upon and pre-arranged. John Paul II prepared a five-year plan, on the eve of the third millennium, Christianize the world. His address in 1995 was based on the assumption that by the year 2000, the entire world would be Christianized. Since the plan was not accomplished, the World Council of Churches assigned this mission to the US in January 2001, since the US is the world's unrivaled military power. They named the decade between 2001-2010 "the age of eradicating evil" – "evil" referring to Islam and Muslims.

"The Crusader war is ongoing, because it has been a religious war since the dawn of Islam. Later, colonialism, missionaries, and Christianization were introduced. The Crusader war is ongoing. The Inquisition courts exist to this day. As I told you, the pope who was appointed a few days ago, headed the Inquisition Court, which is now called the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

"When in January 2001, the World Council of Churches delegated this mission to the US - what did the US do? It fabricated the show of… is it September 9 or 11?"

Host: "11. Please explain this to me."

Abd Al-Aziz: "Yes, of course…"

Host: "You mean to say that the World Council of Churches delegated the mission of Christianizing of the world to the US."

Abd Al-Aziz: "Yes. And how could the US win legitimacy for this without anyone saying that they are perpetrating massacres and waging a Crusader war? It fabricated the 9/11 show. I call it a fabrication because much has been written on this. We are also to blame. Why do we accept a single perspective? Countless books were written, some of which were even translated into Arabic, like Thierry Meyssan's 9/11 – The Appalling Fraud [2] and Pentagate. "Pentagate" like Watergate… He brings documents to prove that the method used in destroying the three (sic) towers was "controlled demolition.

"This is an architectural engineering theory, which was invented by the Americans. They teach it in their universities. They make movies and documentaries about it. They incorporated it in movie scenarios and then carried it out in real life. Why do we accept this?"

Host: "My God, doctor. This is unbelievable! You're saying that this destruction…"

Abd Al-Aziz: "...was a controlled demolition. The building collapsed in its place, without hitting a single building to its left or right. The three towers fell in place."

Host: "In the same method they use in movies and plays?"

Abd Al-Aziz: "Yes, Exactly like that. That is how the US won international legitimacy. You could sense the (9/11) operation was pre-planned because many things were revealed in the days that followed. For example 4,000 Jews caught influenza on that exact day. They set a timer, and all 4,000…"

Host: "By God, you crack me up! They all set a timer and got influenza on the same day. So the building was completely empty of Jews."

Abd Al-Aziz: "Much has been written about this. 150 Congressmen demanded an inquiry."

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And your source is missing journalist integrity of objectivity, its a zionist media organization.
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Originally posted by penelope:
"Has Ameica declared war on Muslims and Islam? "
don't u think it's a little bit late to ask that kind of question amr1?! don't u already know the answer?! well millions of ppl all over thw world have been knowing it for years, & suffering its consequences, including the americans themselves.

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Penelope look at the source of his information. Oh goodness, talk about a lack of critical thinking.

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[b]Now that paints a more acurate picture of why they translated the interview in the first place. /b]

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Originally posted by sonomod:
And so the only thing you find to critize is one empty dope that might not even be white. tempted made comments that sounded like he was brazilian, brazilians aren't anymore white than Egyptians. Brazilians took in plenty of political exiles from Nazi germany and gave them institutional posts while the brazilians soaked up their hypcritizy. Man, you people don't even bother to acknowledge that dimension.

And you found nothing suspect Of Abd Al-Aziz's interview? How come so many Muslims paint the Vatican's efforts as a representation of all Christians?

Now you are totally disregarding two points, and making your arguements shallow and inconclusive.

Besides AMR1 was backing up Salama as she made all those racist comments on AE part of the forum. I didn't know you were into that sort of thing.

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I have not supported Salama. I just said theories which refute theories made by people who don't like her in the AE forum.

I believe 100% on the mixed race of Ancient Egyptians, Egyptians were nevera pure race since the civilization of the Nile has started in what we call Egypt today.

This theory most so called blacks, (they themselves mulattoo, than really black) outside africans and sub sahara africans hate it.

If this is support to Salama, than be it.

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America screwed big time in its unneutral stand with Isreal, well they can not help it, it is part of their religion, Israel's safety means for them, a condition for Jesus return, check Franklin Graham, patt paterson , Falwells and others. Such people have such great influence on the man in the street.

Well America's support to Israel made it lose many of its friends in te Middle East. I have studied in america, my father studied in america, my mother studied in america and many others in my family studied in america, we loved America.

Now we really wonder and some of us still hope that Historian Abdel Aziz's above talk is just bull **** , and others believe it with all their hearts and lost all their respect and love to America.

America is now talking threats to Syria, while it has went out of lebanon , cooperated in the boundaries with Iraq, while Israel have not implemnted any of the many UN resolutions , sitting broken in the UN for the last 30 years.

So you tell me and other Arabized or Arabs or Muslims to trust or respect America of the Bush and the Right majority, America who is completely today nd for many years has been in their hands.

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Originally posted by sonomod:
And so the only thing you find to critize is one empty dope that might not even be white. tempted made comments that sounded like he was brazilian, brazilians aren't anymore white than Egyptians. Brazilians took in plenty of political exiles from Nazi germany and gave them institutional posts while the brazilians soaked up their hypcritizy. Man, you people don't even bother to acknowledge that dimension.

And you found nothing suspect Of Abd Al-Aziz's interview? How come so many Muslims paint the Vatican's efforts as a representation of all Christians?

Now you are totally disregarding two points, and making your arguements shallow and inconclusive.

Besides AMR1 was backing up Salama as she made all those racist comments on AE part of the forum. I didn't know you were into that sort of thing.

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Hi sonomod!

Just a couple of quick points…
I comment on what I choose to comment on, as the above article had been posted previously and I had ignored it then as something I didn’t want to spend time commenting on, I also chose to ignore it the second time.

I chose to respond to tempted’s comment as I had previously entered into a dialogue with him and my comments here were a follow up on that dialogue. As he had said that he was an American from Florida, I was using the term “great white hope” figuratively”.

You, your mother, father were just students here, or so you claim. You are not american. And international students don't pick up much from American culture at all. They just don't get it, take it from someone whose college is over 15% international students.

Many here want Egyptians to declare themselves Black and identify with Africa, instead of their arabization in a quest, not for correcting history simply, but to weaken current Egypt Arabic and Islamic affiliations, which they hate very much and there is a war today against Islam and Arabs, in land and economics and religion understanding, history and all fronts.

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Originally posted by sonomod:
Trying to whitewash your comments isn't going to work. Americans come from a culture that is very entrenched in race discussions and have hacked the subject to death. We can pick up on people's motivations, whether or not people admit to those motivations.

You, your mother, father were just students here, or so you claim. You are not american. And international students don't pick up much from American culture at all. They just don't get it, take it from someone whose college is over 15% international students.

In one post your quoting an interview from an apparent qutbee on Catholism, and then the Evangelic southern baptists. These two groups are called right-wing extremists for very good reason. Their supposive authority means nothing to Americans.

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I am not trying to whitewash anything.

2- If you go to american High school, than go to american College and american post graduate school in America, than get a Coca Cola bottling license, whether u want it or not you become americanized.

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Originally posted by newcomer:
And there speaks the next generation of great white hope for diplomacy and peace in the Middle East! It looks like the region is in for more of the same, another generation of diplomats who have learned all the theory, but have a total lack of understanding of how the people in this part of the world feel and who would prefer to go and smoke hash with people they despise in Marina than try to have a decent conversation with people who might be able to give them some insight into how real people in Egypt feel.

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Originally posted by AMR1:
I am not trying to whitewash anything.

2- If you go to american High school, than go to american College and american post graduate school in America, than get a Coca Cola bottling license, whether u want it or not you become americanized.

3-All christian groupings have allied themselves against Islam, long time before, forget about the outside appearances

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Originally posted by AMR1:
Egyptian Historian on Saudi Iqra TV: The Vatican's Mission of Destroying Islam was Delegated to the U.S. – Which Carried Out 9/11 on Assignment by the World Council of Churches
The following are excerpts from an interview with Egyptian historian Professor Zaynab Abd Al-Aziz, which aired on Saudi Iqra TV [1] on May 26, 2005. [To view this clip from MEMRI TV visit ]http://memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=708]

Abd Al-Aziz: "The decision to impose one religion over the entire world was made in the Second Vatican Council in 1965."

Host: "Huh?"

Abd Al-Aziz: "Yes. A long time ago."

Host: "They decided to Christianize the world?"

Abd Al-Aziz: "Yes. The decisions of the 1965 Vatican Council included, first of all, absolving the Jews of the blood of Christ. This decision is well known and was the basis for the recognition of the occupying Zionist entity - Israel. The second decision was to eradicate the left in the eighties. I believe we've all witnessed this. The third decision was to eradicate Islam, so that the world would be Christianized by the third millennium."

Host: "Why is America hostile to Islam, although we never had and never will have the same conflict with them we had with Europe?"

Abd Al-Aziz: "Well, do you remember what we just said about the Second Vatican Council in 1965 and about Christianizing the world? It was agreed upon and pre-arranged. John Paul II prepared a five-year plan, on the eve of the third millennium, Christianize the world. His address in 1995 was based on the assumption that by the year 2000, the entire world would be Christianized. Since the plan was not accomplished, the World Council of Churches assigned this mission to the US in January 2001, since the US is the world's unrivaled military power. They named the decade between 2001-2010 "the age of eradicating evil" – "evil" referring to Islam and Muslims.

"The Crusader war is ongoing, because it has been a religious war since the dawn of Islam. Later, colonialism, missionaries, and Christianization were introduced. The Crusader war is ongoing. The Inquisition courts exist to this day. As I told you, the pope who was appointed a few days ago, headed the Inquisition Court, which is now called the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

"When in January 2001, the World Council of Churches delegated this mission to the US - what did the US do? It fabricated the show of… is it September 9 or 11?"

Host: "11. Please explain this to me."

Abd Al-Aziz: "Yes, of course…"

Host: "You mean to say that the World Council of Churches delegated the mission of Christianizing of the world to the US."

Abd Al-Aziz: "Yes. And how could the US win legitimacy for this without anyone saying that they are perpetrating massacres and waging a Crusader war? It fabricated the 9/11 show. I call it a fabrication because much has been written on this. We are also to blame. Why do we accept a single perspective? Countless books were written, some of which were even translated into Arabic, like Thierry Meyssan's 9/11 – The Appalling Fraud [2] and Pentagate. "Pentagate" like Watergate… He brings documents to prove that the method used in destroying the three (sic) towers was "controlled demolition.

"This is an architectural engineering theory, which was invented by the Americans. They teach it in their universities. They make movies and documentaries about it. They incorporated it in movie scenarios and then carried it out in real life. Why do we accept this?"

Host: "My God, doctor. This is unbelievable! You're saying that this destruction…"

Abd Al-Aziz: "...was a controlled demolition. The building collapsed in its place, without hitting a single building to its left or right. The three towers fell in place."

Host: "In the same method they use in movies and plays?"

Abd Al-Aziz: "Yes, Exactly like that. That is how the US won international legitimacy. You could sense the (9/11) operation was pre-planned because many things were revealed in the days that followed. For example 4,000 Jews caught influenza on that exact day. They set a timer, and all 4,000…"

Host: "By God, you crack me up! They all set a timer and got influenza on the same day. So the building was completely empty of Jews."

Abd Al-Aziz: "Much has been written about this. 150 Congressmen demanded an inquiry."

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Originally posted by newcomer:
I won't bore everybody by repeating what I wrote above, as my answer to this comment is almost the same as my previous answer. However, if I heard that salama had aspirations to join the diplomatic corps and was going to smoked hash in Marina with people she despised, I might feel inclined to make a similar comment to her too!

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It's one thing to comment that "I'm sure there will plenty of hash there" and another to comment that I would be personally smoking it, it was a comment on Egypt's so-called better half, to show what the so-called great arab hope of this society have to look forward to, a bunch of rich kids who smoke up their allowances. Anyway if I do choose to smoke it, it's my business and it won't stop me from becoming a diplomat, it's who you know, I'm the son of a retired 2 star general, it's already in the making rather you like it or not.

For the record, and I want you all to remember this for the rest of your lives!!!!

NO ZIONIST WILL EVER RULE THIS WORLD

NO VATICANS WILL EVER RULE THIS WORLD

AND DEFINITELY THIS WORLD WILL NEVER BE RULED BY ISLAM,

SECULARIST RULE THIS WORLD NOW AND FOREVER!!

I am not affilliated with any religion they are all there to brainwash the ignorant masses, while the non-believers hold the keys to the universe, remember that.

I see you didn't bother to read my last response to you: http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Forum2/HTML/006406.html

Your latest message explains why you never complained about all the nepotism in Egypt!!From all your comments on this board, I am not surprised you had problems here in Egypt...and my guess is that they will follow you wherever you go.

You'll believe anything won't you?"

sonsmod I don't need to check his sources cauz I've depended on them to formulate my views, I depend on facts I see, hear, or read by myself, not by what other ppl tell me.

& u'll beleive only what u like, won't u??