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HI
CAN ANYONE HELP US? OUR SISTER IS MARRIED TO AN EGYPTIAN HE HAS BEEN SENT TO PRISON FOR TWO YEARS IN EGYPT FOR BRIBERY GETTING SOMEONE TO STAMP HIS MILITARY PAPERS TO RETURN TO ENGLAND WHERE HE HAS BEEN FOR THE PAST THREE MONTHS. OUR SISTER HAS BEEN TOLD BY HIS FAMILY THAT IF SHE PAYS £6500 HIS SENTENCE WILL BE REDUCED TO SIX MONTHS. WE ARE UNABLE TO GAIN ANY INFO ANYWHERE, CAN YOU HELP.

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Hi Marina

I don't know very much about the legal system in Egypt - but this seems unlikely - aren't they just trying to get money?? Do you know for sure that he is actually in jail in Egypt for real????

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this post is misplaced.

Here it is the love board, so get off with your jail stories.

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If I was you I would tell his family: I will come immedialy and visit him in jail and check out his situation. Just to see how they will react. If they dont want you to come - something is rotten..........
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Learner, this post is not misplaced!

this has the workings of a great love tragedy...

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And I agree with Tibe - go to Egypt yourself or your sister - DO NOT SEND MONEY!!
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i will tell you a true story a guy has a fine for 5000 or go to the jail he goes to the court to pay then the guy who was taking the money speaks up if you agree to pay me 2000 i will clear the fine.and iam afraid that how things work in poor places there is someone always with thier hands out,you win he wins the goverment has just lost 5000. goe with the flow you,me and the rest will not change it
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quote:
Originally posted by Anthropos:
Learner, this post is not misplaced!

this has the workings of a great love tragedy...

i'm not fan
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is this 6500 English pounds or Egyptian pounds??
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I don't think that's true, because they are announced to make military time. And think about the amont. the medium salary is 300 LE /month.

Don't give the money.

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quote:
Originally posted by Anthropos:
And I agree with Tibe - go to Egypt yourself or your sister - DO NOT SEND MONEY!!

on the contrary send money. If someone you love has committed something wrong, he has to be punished.
Forging papers is as wrong as making false money so he has to pay. And if he cannot, you pay for him. It works this way.
Now if you don't pay money you will pay by the effect of his absence, can you bear it. You will cry and be sad and maybe depressed who knows.

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medium salary is 300 LE ????? I thought it was 2000 LE!!
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send even extra money if you really want to see him.
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Sure send money if you have no doubts and you believe! Don't send it if you want to keep your dignity in case it is a fraud!

Has this been a happy marriage?

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I heard the medium salery was around 4500 LE.
Dont sent him money - that will disrupt the balance of your relationsship with him.

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or you may reconsider the relationship. Does it really worth it? Do you have to pay for something you didn't really wanted to happen in the first place? You are innocent in this story and it's your tort. Now maybe you can leave him and get along with someone more respectable that will not get you involved in hard times.
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Yeah, I agree with Learner.

Just dump his criminal ass....

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quote:
Originally posted by Tibe:
I heard the medium salery was around 4500 LE.
Dont sent him money - that will disrupt the balance of your relationsship with him.

what kind of numbers are you inventing?

I wanna play too: the medium salary is around 3333 pounds

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yes I am amazed at these numbers

What IS the medium salary?

300 ? Hardly! ( maybe in certain areas)

2000 ? (likely I think)

4500 ? (too much! only in some rich areas)

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quote:
Originally posted by Anthropos:
Yeah, I agree with Learner.

Just dump his criminal ass....

Why are people thinking they can use bad words when talking about someone not like them? It may backfire .
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What bad words??? [Cool]
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quote:
Originally posted by Anthropos:
yes I am amazed at these numbers

What IS the medium salary?

300 ? Hardly! ( maybe in certain areas)

2000 ? (likely I think)

4500 ? (too much! only in some rich areas)

the medium salary is not pertinent anyway. Taking the mean or the median is more efficient. Though you'll have to meet the people to ask them their salaries, it's hardly realisable.
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quote:
Originally posted by Anthropos:
What bad words??? [Cool]

some people think it's funny. ha ha
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quote:
Originally posted by Anthropos:
Learner are you Egyptian?

yep
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i'm the descendant of the pharao NeektahaMaher
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quote:
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i'm the descendant of the pharao NeektahaMaher

he was not really a pharao, he thought he was because he had some power but he never did nothing really remarkable, he has not entered posterity despite he wanted.
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quote:
Originally posted by Anthropos:
Learner are you Egyptian?

are you greek?
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i got greek roots too.
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quote:
Originally posted by Learner:
i got greek roots too.

an ancester of mine was living in Athena, he was called citizen Skyzofrate, he was a friend of Socrate
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quote:
Originally posted by Anthropos:
No - I'm not Greek

I am the descendent of Leif the Lucky [Smile]

Oooh that's nice. [Smile]
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Did he made beers?
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our sister has been told by his family that no one can visit him, so how can she find out if he is in there? the fine is 6500 english pounds,
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Wow 6500 English pounds! that seems too much - even for greedy Egyptians!

But this marriage - was it a happy one? She has never had any doubts about him before?

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She must have some rights being his wife - she at least could call the authorities or something and have them tell her if he is there in prison or not being his wife and all
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quote:
Originally posted by Anthropos:
no - he discovered continents... [Wink]

you don't discover a continent since the continent is already there... but congratulations to your ancester.
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Of course he discovered it! All things that are discovered are already in existence!
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she is too much in love to think straight and has been made to feel guilty by his family .they have been married for 2 years, he has been in uk for only 4 months, she is 47 and he is 27.
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Man working in gastronomie in Hurghada has 300 LE per month.
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I am sorry to say this but I think that chances are that this is a scam, especially because of the age difference.

There have been many threads here on this forum about scam artists - and it seems that they like preying on elder women.

I think that she should be very careful

Is he educated? Has a nice job? From what background? Class?

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quote:
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Of course he discovered it! All things that are discovered are already in existence!

yes you're right but certain things are not discoverable, they are reachable. So he reached the newfoundlands but didn't discovered nothing. Because it supposes something is covered, but it's not.
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Yes, no it doesn't need to be covered! Only covered in the knowledge - and in the knowledge of his country and countrymen this territory was covered and so he discovered it! It is all a question of perspective!
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Anthropos:
Of course he discovered it! All things that are discovered are already in existence!

yes you're right but certain things are not discoverable, they are reachable. So he reached the newfoundlands but didn't discovered nothing. Because it supposes something is covered, but it's not.
you don't say "before the continents were covered" , and they were discovered.

When you lose your keys you don't say " i've covered my keys" and when you find it back you don't say "ive recovered my keys"

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so called went to uni met him working on a boat taking photos father is a lawyer but very poor. two brothers are in the military live in alex.
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quote:
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Yes, no it doesn't need to be covered! Only covered in the knowledge - and in the knowledge of his country and countrymen this territory was covered and so he discovered it! It is all a question of perspective!

my ancester NeektahaMeher would disagree
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I know that my keys are in existence so I don't go around thinking that I will discover them!

But if I don't know about some country or continent - or not even my society knows about it - learning about it and having a new knowledge about it is a discovery for those people in question! Not for all people - but for those people it was a genuine discovery for sure!

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Marina

I don't know what to tell you - I don't understand where all the usual members are on this forum - they have more info - but from my reading here and personal experience poor people in Egypt look at Europeans as money machines and they think it is a good way to get easy money to try to marry foreign women. the families are sometimes in on it. This is some way in their eyes to better their position - of course there are good honest men - but it seems that all the foreign women (at least 80% of them) are marrying the bad ones though....

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quote:
Originally posted by Anthropos:
I know that my keys are in existence so I don't go around thinking that I will discover them!

Don't you
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you'll tell this to my ancester
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