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I have read many books on Ancient Egypt. Works by Moustafa Gadalla, Chancellor Williams, Diop etc. Recently, I've come across books by Ra Un Nefer Amen (RA Straughn) which do not bother to delve deep into what other authors (such as Diop) have stated (i.e. African identity of Egypt) but goes into explaining the deeper spiritual teachings of the Ancient Kemetians/Egyptians. I would like to hear what people think of his work if they have read or come across it.
I'm quite new to Egyptology as far as knowledge is concerned (my research only spans 2 years or so) so I'm hoping to hear from the very learned members of this forum.
Thanks.
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It is okay if you enjoy spiritual science fiction...Otherwise you are still better of reading EA Wallis Budge books(but do not learn AE from his grammar,dictionary as they are faultly..
-he failed to adequately discern the different stages of the AE language);however Budge does include SOURCES material,original hieroglyphic texts,etc.. So get a modern Grammar along with his books(modern egyptology abhor Budge,mainly because I think,he was a "maverick/outsider" and did admit that he did not know everything about the AE language... I do recommend his book called "The Mummy" and The Dwellers of the NIle(more general,very accessible)
Bottom line- in any spiritual works look for the following criterias:
1-does the author understand the Ancient Egyptian language ?
2-check up his sources-does he cites as sources scholar works(books,journals on egyptology,etc..)in lieu of "new Age writers" top support his assertions ?
3-does he include original passages in hieroglyphic texts ?
4-names cited- does the AE terms in lieu of the Greek terms?
5-does he discounts (negates)discounts theories like Atlantis,ancient masters E%,lost technology because of lack of proofs(physical like texts,artefacts etc..)?
If it is a NO at any of the ABOVE then you are better off inventing your own spiritual theology and would probably arrive at a more coherent result
Finally- does he belong to a sect,cult,promoting a new religon,philosophy etc..- if YES, stay away from ANY of his work.
Moustafa Gadella is a very good example
Another one is DR O. Alsaadawi- he is promoting a sort of egyptian nationalism blended with islamic tenets.. His website is at:
His theories are untenable as he goes vs all present knowledge on the development of language(history)and fails to discern the different stages of the AE language.
Finally with his methods(faulty) he keeps finding validations for the people mentionned in the Bible../New Testament (Mary,Jesus,Joseph,David,etc..)and islamic beliefs in the Ancient Egyptian religion !
Also it does apepar that his discoveries-many of which were "borrowed" from an independent researcher,Mr TArek Abdel Moty which is very credible on many points..
There is also another egyptian reseacher promoting ARCHITECTONICS-(!) he appears to be a fraud and swindler..
ryb
Notes:
1-Dr Alsaawadawi websites are not being updated since April 2006-apparently he has been gravely ill for the past months
2-Tarek A. Moty- his websites are not being pdated,just mirrored(?)- the English is bad(he used as webtransdlator I think)-if you know Arabic...
3-most promoters of ET theories on Ancient Egypt,about its pyramids etc..have a ZERO KNOWLEDGE of Ancient Egyptian language and very little about its culture etc...they all quote one another(liars relying on lies from others)..and all are into it for the $$$$ and of course all contradict one antoher and steal or re-interpret(!) parts of others new agers works etc...
4- to get the facts in regards to the BOSNIAN PYRAMIDS
BUT wait here- they DO NOT MENTION it- as if it did not exist..
and http://www.archaeology.org a magazine about archaeology but is GIVING FAULTY INFORMATIONS,relying on OLD DATA,disinformations etc...they are LIEING... to get the REAL INFOS go here:
quote:Originally posted by herukhuti: I have read many books on Ancient Egypt. Works by Moustafa Gadalla, Chancellor Williams, Diop etc. Recently, I've come across books by Ra Un Nefer Amen (RA Straughn) which do not bother to delve deep into what other authors (such as Diop) have stated (i.e. African identity of Egypt) but goes into explaining the deeper spiritual teachings of the Ancient Kemetians/Egyptians. I would like to hear what people think of his work if they have read or come across it.
I'm quite new to Egyptology as far as knowledge is concerned (my research only spans 2 years or so) so I'm hoping to hear from the very learned members of this forum.
Thanks.
When diving into the thought process of the ancients, RA UN NEFER AMEN is the best according to my opinion.
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The problem I have with Ra-Un-Nefer-Amen are the following:
1. Does not know mdu ntr so depends upon second hand European Egyptologist translations.
2. Tries to meld non-Kemetian stuff like the Kaballaistic Tree or Life or Asian[Indian/Hindu] spirtuality in ancent Kemet
3. Does not original reserch
Other than the following, I see no problem with his books on spirtuality. Ra-Un-Nefer-Amen is like Ra Schawaller Delubicz and does explore the esoteric side of ancient Kmt. Since ancient Kmt is somewhat of a dead civlization then both modern Egyptologist and others sometimes make unsubstaniated claims. We have only fragments to confirm or deny such claims.
I suggest you read both mainstream Egyptology,Ra-Un-Nefer-Amen,and whatever else with a grain of salt.
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I went home (from work) last night soon as I posted the topic so didn't have the chance to follow up. Apologies.
Thanks for all the replies. I have read about 4 of Ra Un Nefer Amen's books and they do seem quite thorough in concept, however, he does seem to claim a lot of his work is "intuition" which, will always leave room for doubt.
A very interesting concept he introduces is the idea that as far as the way we use our brains, Africans (generally) have a "right-hemispheric" brain bias and Europeans have a "left-hemispheric" brain bias. He claims the messy state of the world is due to prevalance of left-brained thinking (i.e. lack of balance) and that this sort of thinking is limited in its ability to grasp the more spiritual aspects of the workings of nature, though excellent in understanding the physical aspects. Does anyone have a take on this concept? as I would really like to hear a second opinion.
Hotep
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