Q.1. who in ancient egypt would have access to these tombs.
Q.2. does anyone think the people depicted on the races of man would be the pharoahs idea of the perfect image of that tribe.
I am no expert in egyptology just learning basic stuff about it so correct me where i do go wrong,
But In my opinion/theory, the tombs wouldnt be opened to the general public so i think the pharoahs idea of what the perfect egyptian looks like to him is displayed in their tombs.
Example1: did seti have asiatic blood in him? the paintings of the egyptians in his tombs look in my opinion half black african half asiatic?
Example2: rammeses 3 who in all the paintings look black to me so the egyptians look black in his tomb.
quote:Q.1. who in ancient egypt would have access to these tombs.
Other than the tomb workers, painters, and scribes, why the Pharoah himself as well as priests, advisers, and other officials.
quote:Q.2. does anyone think the people depicted on the races of man would be the pharoahs idea of the perfect image of that tribe.
No, the images just represent 'sample' peoples who represent their particular group and are not suppose to be representations of "races" so much as just peoples who neigbor the Egyptians and whom the sun (Ra) shines over.
quote:I am no expert in egyptology just learning basic stuff about it so correct me where i do go wrong,
Sure.
quote:But In my opinion/theory, the tombs wouldnt be opened to the general public so i think the pharoahs idea of what the perfect egyptian looks like to him is displayed in their tombs.
No the tombs weren't open to the public but I don't know what that had to do with how peoples were portrayed in his tombs. I don't know about the Pharaoh going for the "perfect" looks so much as ideal looks
quote:Example1: did seti have asiatic blood in him? the paintings of the egyptians in his tombs look in my opinion half black african half asiatic?
To the first question, no-- or at least we have no evidence of Seti being of Asiatic ancestry. We know he arose through the military and there were alot of foreigners serving in the military in Lower Egypt but there were also native Egyptians. Seti was a Set worshipper but Set was worshipped by Egyptians first before foreigners. We just have no evidence of Seti being of foreign descent and it is more likely his family originated from further south. As yet the only known Egyptian rulers of foreign ancestry are those who conquered Egypt from outside.
To your second question, what looks do you consider "full" black African and what looks do you consider "half" black African??
quote:Example2: rammeses 3 who in all the paintings look black to me so the egyptians look black in his tomb.
any comments?
And? Rammessia 3 is a native Egyptians and all native Egyptians are black so what is your point?
Seti I
Tomb wall of Seti I
Seti's father, Ramesses I
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BTW "Pharaoh" had little to do with the artists details. The art crews were pretty much independent but did work from a standard "fake" book.
I doubt the tombs were open to the public. Unlike our view of them as "museum pieces" they served religio-magical purposes and these paintings were used in part to ensure "Pharaoh's" successful afterlife journey through otherworldly portals while his "soul" was enroute to Ausar-Ra for judgement, permanent beatification, and unity in deity. One nick or graffito or etc., could nullify the desired effect and purpose of the artwork as illustrations for a kind of "before Christianity and before Judaism 'Bible'."
quote:Originally posted by rasol: These tomb paintings have been delt with in great detail on this forum.
quote:Originally posted by adrianne: Seti I, Ramses III
The Royal Tombs of Egypt, Zahi Hawass (2006)
Page 300:
Centuries of weathering, and decades of heavy tourist traffic, have chipped much of the paint off the walls of this royal tomb. We are currently using a rotation system to close each tomb in turn for restoration and conservation, and keeping the most fragile, such as the sepulcher of Seti I, off-limits for tourist.
Seti I
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This scene from the tomb of Ramses III, depicting the king offering incense to the god Ptah (not shown) displays the revages of time, with much of the painted plaster having fallen from the walls.
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