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Misanthropist
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Why is it that we black folk still use the absurd designation 'black african'?????? If I'm not mistaken it was John Henrik Clarke who said that saying 'black africa' is like saying 'wet rain'. We must stop reinforcing the utterly absurd and racist notion that North Africa was not 'as black' as the rest of Africa. It disgusts me every time I have to read that word in someone's post/essay/book, etc. The term 'black africa' is FAR MORE harmful from a psycho-historical standpoint than is the term 'nigga' which we hear so many whine about. I'll have to do a separate thread on my opinions about the term 'nigga'.
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Misanthropist,


I've told these fools that countless times. They are weak minded dullards who cannot do something as simple as ignore the mental sodomization attempts by their white owners.

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^ LOL Funny analogy but understandable coming from someone like you. [Big Grin]
quote:
Originally posted by Misanthropist:

Why is it that we black folk still use the absurd designation 'black african'?????? If I'm not mistaken it was John Henrik Clarke who said that saying 'black africa' is like saying 'wet rain'. We must stop reinforcing the utterly absurd and racist notion that North Africa was not 'as black' as the rest of Africa. It disgusts me every time I have to read that word in someone's post/essay/book, etc. The term 'black africa' is FAR MORE harmful from a psycho-historical standpoint than is the term 'nigga' which we hear so many whine about. I'll have to do a separate thread on my opinions about the term 'nigga'.

I agree with you Misanthropy, however the reason why I attach black to African is to drive home the point that these people were black. I use it the SAME way I do white European. We know indigenous Europeans are white, yet of course the Euronut tactic is to suggest that there are somehow non-black peoples indigenous to the African continent.
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@Misanthropist

Of course you are right. Blacks are made to seem
abberant to their own continent by that term. If
anything that minority of indigenous Africans who
are no longer black are the ones who need a term
like "White Africa" to designate their region of the
continent.

Asia is home to people of various colours. We never hear
- yellow Asia(n)
- brown Asia(n)
- black Asia(n)
- white Asia(n).

Black Africa(n) is part and parcel of Eurocentrism's need
to prefix black to any and every thing having to do with
black people as if blackness is an oddity and never the norm.


quote:
Originally posted by Misanthropist:
Why is it that we black folk still use the absurd designation 'black african'?????? If I'm not mistaken it was John Henrik Clarke who said that saying 'black africa' is like saying 'wet rain'. We must stop reinforcing the utterly absurd and racist notion that North Africa was not 'as black' as the rest of Africa. It disgusts me every time I have to read that word in someone's post/essay/book, etc. The term 'black africa' is FAR MORE harmful from a psycho-historical standpoint than is the term 'nigga' which we hear so many whine about. I'll have to do a separate thread on my opinions about the term 'nigga'.


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quote:
Originally posted by alTakruri:
...indigenous Africans who are no longer black

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alTakruri wrote:
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If anything that minority of indigenous Africans who are no longer black
What is black?


Is an African whose skin color is yellow, black?


Is an African who is an albino, black?

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We who are black (including our reds) know who we are.

It's you who are not black who have the definition problem.

We have no problem. Solving yours is not our interest.

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^Fly.

A few probably do it out of provocative emphasis i guess, lately i tend to like to be less emphatic and let the evidence speak for itself, let my adversarial step over teh line and fall into easy counters that incapacitate them dropping them to the floor. Sometime i know i do things provocatively where i can afford them.

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alTakruri wrote:
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What is black?


Is an African whose skin color is yellow, black?


Is an African who is an albino, black?

What kind of dodge is this? Apparently you can't even define your own terms.


Since you are having such a difficult time with the previous question I will make it simpler for you.


Is a Nigerian whose skin is yellow, black?

Is an Ethiopian whose skin is yellow, black?

Is an Eritrean whose skin is yellow, black?

Is a Congolese whose skin is yellow, black?

Is a Libyan whose skin is yellow, black?

Is a Moroccan whose skin is yellow, black?

Is a Sudanese whose skin is yellow, black?

Is an Egyptian whose skin is yellow, black?


Thank you.

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@Djehuti: Thank you for your response. I'd just like to point out that there is no such thing as an indigenous "white" European. In fact, "white" and "indigenous" are mutually exclusive terms, anthropologically speaking. I'm sure u knew this. It only recently dawned on me, though.

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quote:
Originally posted by Misanthropist:
@Djehuti: Thank you for your response. I'd just like to point out that there is no such thing as an indigenous "white" European. In fact, "white" and "indigenous" are mutually exclusive terms, anthropologically speaking. I'm sure u knew this. It only recently dawned on me, though.

are you indigenous to California?
or are you an outsider?

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Personally I have invested too much of my own emotionism into the term Black..I can't give it up maybe my kids can if they want to, but black for me is beautiful let each generation make their own way on the matter after-all I hate being called Negro or colored.
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quote:
Originally posted by alTakruri:

We who are black (including our reds) know who we are.

It's you (Argay) who are not black who have the definition problem.

We have no problem. Solving yours is not our interest.

Indeed. Argay is neither black nor straight. His problem is not ours. [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by alTakruri:

@Misanthropist

Of course you are right. Blacks are made to seem
abberant to their own continent by that term. If
anything that minority of indigenous Africans who
are no longer black are the ones who need a term
like "White Africa" to designate their region of the continent.

Asia is home to people of various colours. We never hear
- yellow Asia(n)
- brown Asia(n)
- black Asia(n)
- white Asia(n).

Black Africa(n) is part and parcel of Eurocentrism's need
to prefix black to any and every thing having to do with
black people as if blackness is an oddity and never the norm.

If that is the mentality that euronuts have then they are sicker and more insane than I thought! So blacks are now somehow unusual to Africa, not to mention the various other tropical regions they are aboriginal to from Arabia to the Pacific??!
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Originally posted by Misanthropist:

@Djehuti: Thank you for your response. I'd just like to point out that there is no such thing as an indigenous "white" European. In fact, "white" and "indigenous" are mutually exclusive terms, anthropologically speaking. I'm sure u knew this. It only recently dawned on me, though.

How so? Are not white peoples indigenous to Europe where their white skins developed??
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