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Bible’s Garden stream is the Nile stream
By Andre Austin

When I started reading Herodotus (500Bc) Histories about the Egyptians I started getting minute hints on the theft of the Jewish priests in the Bible from Egyptian priests. Herodotus made two statements about the Nile making my mind tick:

(A). All rivers but the Nile run in flood, because a great deal of rainwater is added (2:25)
See Genesis 2:5-7

(B). A good Nile flood is reported as 15 cubits high (2:13) See Genesis 7:20

( C ). Egyptian word for water is Nun which gives birth to 8 gods. See 4 elements in genesis 1:1-3 plus their opposites and Genesis 8:15-18 of Noah’s family of Eight.

(D) Nile river four tributaries 2 split in North delta and other two to the south in Ethiopia. See genesis 2:10 garden river separated into 4 headwaters.

(E) In a boat shaped like a crescent moon Egyptians are saved in heaven. Jesus comes to save like Noah (Luke 17)

(F) After Egypt’s first land created light was put on top. See Genesis 1:1-3; Genesis 3:24 and NT City on the Hill with light Matthew 5:13-16 & Luke 17.

(G) The Nile flood season is 120 days. Noah’s flood is said to be 40 days & or 150 days but its 3 periods of 40 days =120 days. You will see by reading the entire chapter 7 of Genesis.

(H). When you get baptized symbolic of new life. You emerge out of water coming out as new light. As you see Jesus coming out of the water with new life and appearance of thunder/light/fire (Matthew 3:11;16). Even Peter knew how to link baptism up with Noah (1Peter 3:20-21). The Dove in Noah time was associated with life/olive leaf from its branch is used for Oil/light. Jesus baptism was a Dove/Spirit. We know from John spirit is life/light. In Egypt it would have been Ptah on the hill with fire on top.

In point (A) there is a lack of rain but the Nile can still flood the land and deposit black mud (called Ham/Chem) so that Egyptian farmers can plant food and avoid starvation. So the Nile was looked upon as a savior.

Genesis states:

“The lord God had not sent rain on the earth…but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground [Ham].. The lord formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils”(Genesis 2:5-7). The Egyptians had several creation stories from which the Jews fused into one. Isis was pregnant and called the bringer of water as the Sothis/Siris star. When this star rose the Nile rose. The age of Isis & Mary said to be 14/15 to coincide with phases of the moon that helps Nile rise. The Egyptian God Ptah (The Word) is said to have put light on top of a mound of soil after it was pushed out of the water in the same manner as Genesis 1:1-3.

I knew (Genesis 2;5-7 was talking about the Nile river because in verse 10 it talks about the Nile river four branches because it only fits Egypt. Besides the first land in Egyptian tradition came to be known as the Isle of Flames because of the flaming mound/mountain that rose out of Nun/water. In Genesis after Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden their entrance was blocked by fire-wielding Cherubs (Genesis 3:24). This flame/light is the same Light coming out from the surface of the deep (Genesis 1:1-3). Even John’s gospel picked up on the Memphite theology when he talked about The Word and creation and said “that life was the Light” (John 1:4). Ptah was associated with fire/light/thunder John was talking about what was happening in Genesis but what was happening before that. The Egyptians wrote the Memphite Theology a long, long, long time before Moses was even a sperm drop.

“Ptah who gave life…for every Word came through what the heart devised and tongue commanded”. This is why also Ham was associated with the heart through the blackness of his eyes. Ptah shape ham into a symbolic type of Adam (Atum) and put light/life on top of him when he was done. When Jesus saves you like Noah you are to be on top of a house (Mountain) and be like a bride with your oil burning because the Eagle (BenBen bird) will land to save your life. Ptah’s throne is similar to that of psalm 29:10/Rev 22:1 except light/Atum is replaced by another similar light. You burn a candle or hold up a light so Jesus can come pick up his image (Light) that’s been free from sin. Jesus is symbolic of a candle with the wax of the bee symbolizing the blood he saves you by.

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bullcrap! The river is in modern day Iraq --Tigris, Euphrates are the surviving two of the four rivers.

Gen 2:14 And the name of the third river [is] Hiddekel: that [is] it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river [is] Euphrates.

People get confused with biblical Kush, identifying it with Africa's Ethiopia (the king' english translation does not help with this) when in fact, in the creation tale, kush was one of the cities of sumeria called Kish.

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quote:
Originally posted by Confirming Truth:
bullcrap! The river is in modern day Iraq --Tigris, Euphrates are the surviving two of the four rivers.

Gen 2:14 And the name of the third river [is] Hiddekel: that [is] it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river [is] Euphrates.

People get confused with biblical Kush, identifying it with Africa's Ethiopia (the king' english translation does not help with this) when in fact, in the creation tale, kush was one of the cities of sumeria called Kish.

There is no spot on the face of the planet that is the headwaters for four rivers. Indeed there is no spot on the planet that can even be the headwaters for two rivers. There is a line that divides water from flowing one direction or another. Like the continental divide water falling on one side flows into one river and water flowing on the other flows to a different river. A garden straddling this line could be said to be the headwaters for two rivers but for this garden to be the headwaters of four rivers it would have to be enormous.

Such a place of a few hundred square miles is said to exist in Turkey but I have difficulty believing in a garden of this size.

These facts were known to the ancients even as far back as the builders of the great pyramids. They not only were aware that each spot on the earth fed only a single river but had even deduced and studied the hydraulic cycle. This is clearly pointed out in the Pyramid Texts and Nehebkau was its representation. Nehebkau was the entire process by which rain came into being and the coils of the Nehebkau serpent were the clouds.

I believe we are totally misunderstanding the meaning of "headwaters of four rivers" here.

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