The Ancient Egyptian official Nakht was an 'astronomer' (Astronomer of Amun), scribe, and priest during the reign of Thutmose IV, during the Eighteenth Dynasty. He is buried in the Theban Necropolis, in tomb TT52. various paintings from his tomb
In Egyptian art we see people portrayed with different skin tones. Sometimes you see women portrayed in a brown color other times lighter. Sometimes reddish brown other times chocolate or ochre brown. Other times it is not uncommon to see them portrayed lighter skinned than the male in some scenes such as the one directly above. You also see this in Etruscan art sometimes
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^ This was explained to your lyinass before countless times. This seems to have been an artistic convention that was spread and adopted by other non-African peoples around the Mediterranean.
The convention that women were lighter because they stayed indoors does not excuse the fact that they are many shades lighter than the men or the fact that most women in that time did not stay indoors but worked outside especially in the case of Egyptian women.
So what is your point?
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The eyes, the mouth, the shape of the face, all screams African.
Etruscan art all screams European.
Not sure why you don't see that.
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^ but the skin color is not the same at all either.
Just not following your point.
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quote:Originally posted by osirion: ^ but the skin color is not the same at all either.
Just not following your point.
the point is, is there is a similarity in the relation between male and female skin color relationships in both Egyptian and Etruscan art
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^ I see where you are going. Yes that is true. You see that in Minoan art as well.
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Of course, in Minoan art, there are genetic underpinnings for the medium and dark brown colors, in contrast to when we see such colors used in Etruscan art. There WAS an African colony in Crete, as well as in parts of Greece.
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^ Although I should point out, that while I'm not saying the Etruscans were Africans or of African descent per-say, I do believe there were some African expansions into Italy from the south as well from early times.
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quote:Originally posted by Swenet: Of course, in Minoan art, there are genetic underpinnings for the medium and dark brown colors, in contrast to when we see such colors used in Etruscan art. There WAS an African colony in Crete, as well as in parts of Greece.
Do believe this Minoan painting portrays an African?
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^ actually Minoan portrayals of Africans look like Egyptians.
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Besides you are still missing the cultural connection.
The Zulu Collar
Go back and look at the pictures of the Egyptians you posted and notice what they are wearing.
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quote:Originally posted by Swenet: Of course, in Minoan art, there are genetic underpinnings for the medium and dark brown colors, in contrast to when we see such colors used in Etruscan art. There WAS an African colony in Crete, as well as in parts of Greece.
Do believe this Minoan painting portrays an African?
Not necessarily. You can stop playing dumb, Lyingass. I know you've seen the Cretan portrayals of Cretan people who don't look particularly mediteranean. No amount of postings of red skinned mediteranean looking Cretans is going to change that.
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: ^ Although I should point out, that while I'm not saying the Etruscans were Africans or of African descent per-say, I do believe there were some African expansions into Italy from the south as well from early times.
I don't know enough about the subject (Etruscans) to be able to make an intelligent statement about the presence of blacks in the region. I do believe, like you said earlier, that the convention of darker skinned men, seems to be more of a copied convention in the case of Etruscans, than is the case in Crete.
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quote:Originally posted by Swenet: Of course, in Minoan art, there are genetic underpinnings for the medium and dark brown colors, in contrast to when we see such colors used in Etruscan art. There WAS an African colony in Crete, as well as in parts of Greece.
Do believe this Minoan painting portrays an African?
Not necessarily. You can stop playing dumb, Lyingass. I know you've seen the Cretan portrayals of Cretan people who don't look particularly mediteranean. No amount of postings of red skinned mediteranean looking Cretans is going to change that.
Piece of shit, what you call "red skinned mediteranean" is maybe not exact but similar in skin tone to the Egyptians below. Which are the Cretan paintings of Cretan people who don't look particularly Mediterranean you?
quote:what you call "red skinned mediteranean" is maybe not exact but similar in skin tone to the Egyptians below.
The skin color thing was already dealt with, lyingass. As for the fisher man, his skin color may be similar, but the concave facial profile of that fisherman is typically European, and has nothing to do with how Egyptians depicted themselves, whatsoever.
quote:what you call "red skinned mediteranean" is maybe not exact but similar in skin tone to the Egyptians below.
The skin color thing was already dealt with, lyingass. As for the fisher man, his skin color may be similar, but the concave facial profile of that fisherman is typically European, and has nothing to do with how Egyptians depicted themselves, whatsoever.
Piece of shit, you are bascially saying that some some ancient Mediterraneans may have a similar skin tone to some ancient Egyptians but ancient Egyptians did not have protruding chins
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I already made my views known regarding the Ancient Med convention of using excessively dark colors in the absence of assimilation of black skinned groups. Either the man was painted using the Egyptian convention, or they tried to depict the idea of a suntanned person when they painted the figure, or they used the color because he was imagined to have had African ancestry.
Either way, his facial features are typical of Europeans, not Africans, and you'd have to be on crack if you think Europeans can ever look like that, without staying in the sun, and/or that an artificially tanned European is biologically speaking the same as a similarly hued African.
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^ LOL Funny how when you just point something out in a calm fashion, the lyinass loses her cool and resorts to cussing. Obvious sign of intellectual frustration as is typical of the lyinass worm.
quote:Originally posted by osirion: actually Minoan portrayals of Africans look like Egyptians.
Actually, the above is an African (Egyptian) portrayal of Minoans! Funny how the Egyptians portrayed them as similar to themselves. One might think this a contradiction but it's not if you acknowledge that the peoples of Crete were indeed ethnically heterogeneous and not the same, with some having African origins and others not.
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quote:Originally posted by Swenet: I don't know enough about the subject (Etruscans) to be able to make an intelligent statement about the presence of blacks in the region. I do believe, like you said earlier, that the convention of darker skinned men, seems to be more of a copied convention in the case of Etruscans, than is the case in Crete.
I do know enough. The Etruscans were basically a people who lived in central and northern Italy but whose territory was reduced to the northwestern province of Etruria during the late Bronze Age to Early Iron Age when Indo-European Italic tribes began to establish themselves. The Etruscans had their own distinct language unrelated to any another and had their own customs and religious beliefs which were eventually adopted by Romans and other Italians. The Etruscans were essentially the founders of civilization in Italy before they were usurped by the Romans. It was the Etruscans who invented the first irrigation systems that were ancestral to Roman aqueducts. They were the earliest wine-makers and introduced wine-making to the peoples who inhabited southern France. They also had their own script which was partly native and partly adopted from the Greeks.
The identity of the Etruscans has been debated several times in this forum, though most of those threads are lost and/or deleted. The only thread I could find is this. There are basically two main theories regarding Etruscan origins. 1. They were indigenous peoples of the Italian peninsula. and 2. They were immigrants from the east, likely Anatolia as due to certain features of their culture and especially religion. I myself believe the case to be a combination of the two. Whatever migration to Italy that took place was very early since many Etruscans by the time of Rome identify themselves as autochthonous. Of course this is in regards to ethnicity as opposed to overall population.
Again, if blacks were present in Etruria and especially older expanded realms of the Etruscans would not be surprising. And certain we have evidence of African presence in the southern part of Italy and in Sicily.
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Thanks for clarifying. Good to know how they fit into the puzzle. If I understand you correctly, they were basically the Italian equivalent of the Pelasgians.
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Hellanicus of Mytilene recorded that the Pelasgians of Thessaly departed for Italy where they founded Tyrrhenia (i.e. that the Pelasgians were the ancestors of the Etruscans).
Pelasgians and Etruscans were of the same racial type - short, dark, brunette, they were the Old Mediterraneanoid stock of Europe.
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Either way, his facial features are typical of Europeans, not Africans, and you'd have to be on crack if you think Europeans can ever look like that, without staying in the sun, and/or that an artificially tanned European is biologically speaking the same as a similarly hued African. [/QB]
piece of shit, what facial features of the above in particular are not African?
piece of shit, whether they stay out in the sun a little or a lot is irrelevant to the fact that many Southern Europeans and Near Easterners have fairly dark skin tones. A painted representation of these skin tones can be a fair representation of how these skin tones looked, despite the fact if they did or did not work outside in the sun all day long. Therefore in the case of a medium reddish brown skin tone in a painting you can't make assumptions as to the person's ethnicity. Therefore you now switch to amaeturish profiling on the ethnicity of facial features
so tell us grand genius what facial features of the above in particular are not African?
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Whats with the "piece of shit" remarks? Is this a new look for you going into the summer trolling season or something?
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^ LOL I guess the little ditz is frustrated cuz she has to repeat some classes in summer school.
quote:Originally posted by Swenet: Thanks for clarifying. Good to know how they fit into the puzzle. If I understand you correctly, they were basically the Italian equivalent of the Pelasgians.
It's funny you mention that because one of the evidences for the eastern origins theory is that they do in fact show ties to Pelasgian peoples of Greece and the Aegean islands!
quote:Originally posted by Anglo_PrimeIdiot: Hellanicus of Mytilene recorded that the Pelasgians of Thessaly departed for Italy where they founded Tyrrhenia (i.e. that the Pelasgians were the ancestors of the Etruscans).
Pelasgians and Etruscans were (yada, yada, same b.s. about mediterranean caca-soid race)
Yes. It wasn't just Hellanicus, but Herodotus, and various other Greek as well as Roman authors who give an Anatolian origin account. There were a few like Dionysius of Halicarnassus who suggest the indigenous theory, but most think they were of the same Anatolian extraction as the Pelasgians.
The origins of the Etruscans, a non-Indo-European population of preclassical Italy, are unclear. There is broad agreement that their culture developed locally, but the Etruscans’ evolutionary and migrational relationships are largely unknown. In this study, we determined mitochondrial DNA sequences in multiple clones derived from bone samples of 80 Etruscans who lived between the 7th and the 3rd centuries b.c. In the first phase of the study, we eliminated all specimens for which any of nine tests for validation of ancient DNA data raised the suspicion that either degradation or contamination by modern DNA might have occurred. On the basis of data from the remaining 30 individuals, the Etruscans appeared as genetically variable as modern populations. No significant heterogeneity emerged among archaeological sites or time periods, suggesting that different Etruscan communities shared not only a culture but also a mitochondrial gene pool. Genetic distances and sequence comparisons show closer evolutionary relationships with the eastern Mediterranean shores for the Etruscans than for modern Italian populations. All mitochondrial lineages observed among the Etruscans appear typically European or West Asian, but only a few haplotypes were found to have an exact match in a modern mitochondrial database, raising new questions about the Etruscans’ fate after their assimilation into the Roman state.Posts: 26236 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: Whats with the "piece of shit" remarks? Is this a new look for you going into the summer trolling season or something?
I used to debate in a more civilized manner not calling people names. But I realized that people here have no class here and name calling is the way they like to converse. Hense forth if people call me names I will address them as piece of shit etc. because that is type of language those particular low class types of people relate to more. It's how they were brought up. When in Rome do as the Romans do.
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quote:what facial features of the above in particular are not African?
WTF?? Do you have Alzheimer or something? I just told you yesterday, lol.
quote:Therefore you now switch to amaeturish profiling on the ethnicity of facial features
Yes I did so, tentatively. You know the drill, ho’. Don’t just blurt out objections; explain why its amateurish.
Cleo approaching the typically Egyptian facial profiles:
Cleo with a typically European facial profile:
More Ptolemies with typically European facial profile:
There, maybe that will help. You’ve always been a visual learner, haven’t you, lyingass? Abstract thinking has never been your thing.
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Mandibular prognathism has nothing to do with cephalic index. Because someone has posterior projection of the mandible (condylar head), doesn't make them brachycephalic.
Lioness is a complete dunse on these issues.
Swenet who is also claiming those are ''typical European profiles'' is completely wrong.
Typical Europeans don't have prognathism.
The ONLY Europeans who have prognathism are a minority of royals. Prognathism aka the Habsburg Jaw is created through ibreeding. Its a medical defect. The Ptolemies were also inbreeding...
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quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist: The ONLY Europeans who have prognathism are a minority of royals. Prognathism aka the Habsburg Jaw is created through ibreeding. Its a medical defect. The Ptolemies were also inbreeding...
I dunno, these non-Ptolemaic Europeans also have similarly concave profiles:
I think Swenet may be onto something here.
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There is archaeological evidence of Pelasgians extending at least to the Neolithic or ''Old Europe'' (c. 6500 BC) or slightly earlier (Gimbutas, 1974). The antiquity of the Pelasgians is reflected in the ancient Greek myths surrounding their age.
The ancient poet Asius notes that the eponymous founder of the Pelasgians, a man called Pelasg, was born of the earth as an autochthon or earth sprung primordial (Paus. viii. 1. 4). According to the Greek traditions the Pelasgians had dwelt in Argos even before the time of the primeval king Ogyges of Boeotia (Eusebius. Praep Evang. x. 10. p. 489; Fragm. Hist. graec. i. p. 385. 8). Ephorus also reports a tradition that the ''Pelasgians had been the most ancient people who had ruled over Greece'' (Fragm. 54).
Racial Type
Skeletal analysis of Pelasgians from Neolithic burials has determined that they mostly cluster in the Mediterranid 'Proper' Caucasoid division, with minor Alpine admixture (Ripley, 1899; Buxton, 1920; Coon, 1939; Angel, 1945).
Angel (1945) concluded after analysing 13 skulls from the Neolithic that they were Gracile ('Proper') and Dinaric-Mediterranid, a minority with ''Alpine tendancies'' (p. 256).
Ancient literary sources are also useful, noting that the Pelasgians were dark haired. An ancient fragment from Philochorus for example notes that the ''dark lustre of their black hair was never tained by a single silver thread'' (Hist. graec. i).
Although the etymology of Pelasgian is still debated among scholars, it has been proposed that their name means ''dark faced men'' or ''swarthy Asiatics'' (Dr. Donaldson's Varronianus, 1852, pp.24-30; Herodotus, Book III, tr. George Rawlinson, p. 441, footnote) from pelios - ''dark'' and asgi ''the people of Asia'' (Buttman, Lexil. Ad voc, p. 155, note). It appears then the Pelasgians can be connected to the old Mediterranid racial stock of the Middle-East or Asia Minor (Coon, 1939).
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quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist: Mandibular prognathism has nothing to do with cephalic index. Because someone has posterior projection of the mandible (condylar head), doesn't make them brachycephalic.
Lioness is a complete dunse on these issues.
Swenet who is also claiming those are ''typical European profiles'' is completely wrong.
Typical Europeans don't have prognathism.
The ONLY Europeans who have prognathism are a minority of royals. Prognathism aka the Habsburg Jaw is created through ibreeding. Its a medical defect. The Ptolemies were also inbreeding...
Idiot, follow the discussion Swenet did not say prognathism is typical for Europeans. He said concave facial profile and he meant in particular a protruding chin of the type below is common in Europeans but not Egyptians Posts: 42918 | From: , | Registered: Jan 2010
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quote:Mandibular prognathism is a protrusion of the mandible or mouth making the face long. It can be classified into types: macrogenia and mandibular prognathism (or progenism). Macrogenia is a case of an overly enlarged chin with normal mandible size and occlusion. On the other hand, mandibular prognathism, or progenism, is caused by over development of mandible leading to malocclusion where the lower jaw outgrows the upper.
If you are going to troll this site, at least know what you are talking about.
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^^^address the issue not the terminology, the claim is that a protruding chin is more typical in Europeans and not typical at all in Egyptians/Africans
the point that it is not a feature in all Europeans is a separate point
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quote:Mandibular prognathism is a protrusion of the mandible or mouth making the face long. It can be classified into types: macrogenia and mandibular prognathism (or progenism). Macrogenia is a case of an overly enlarged chin with normal mandible size and occlusion. On the other hand, mandibular prognathism, or progenism, is caused by over development of mandible leading to malocclusion where the lower jaw outgrows the upper.
If you are going to troll this site, at least know what you are talking about.
No, Lioness is right, and you're seeing ghosts. I never linked prognathism with Europeans in this thread (although I'm not exactly of the opinion they don't have it, either), in fact, I implied it (prognathism) contributed to distinguishing Lioness' Egyptian portrayals from her Cretan fisherman.
Protrusion of the chin is known as mental protuberance, and its not the same as prognathism. It can occur both in the presence and absence of prognathism. So much for your degree in Forensic Anthropology.
Now, just to be clear on one thing here, I'm not saying mental protruberance does not occur in Africans. I was talking about a concave facial profile.
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quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist: The ONLY Europeans who have prognathism are a minority of royals. Prognathism aka the Habsburg Jaw is created through ibreeding. Its a medical defect. The Ptolemies were also inbreeding...
I dunno, these non-Ptolemaic Europeans also have similarly concave profiles:
I think Swenet may be onto something here.
I'd say the facial profile in the first picture is convex (rather than concave), but yeah, the concave facial profile doesn't seem to feature often in native Egyptian portrayals or Africans in general, for that matter.
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quote:Originally posted by Swenet: No, Lioness is right, and you're seeing ghosts. I never linked prognathism with Europeans (although I'm not exactly of the opinion they don't have it, either), in fact, I implied it (prognathism) contributed to distinguishing Lioness' Egyptian portrayals from her Cretan fisherman.
Protrusion of the chin is known as mental protuberance, and its not the same as prognathism. It can occur both in the presence and absence of prognathism. So much for your degree in Forensic Anthropology.
Now, just to be clear on one thing here, I'm not saying mental protruberance does not occur in Africans. I was talking about a concave facial profile.
^^^ It would not be correct to describe this as a concave facial profile because the lips protrude
^^^ Here the lips protrude less so that you can see a concave contour
let's keep it simple, the Minoan man has a protruding round shaped chin.
Once such differences are ascribed to geography, i.e. "typical of European" "and "nothing to do with how Egyptians depicted themselves" concepts easily form which are similar to what some people call "race"
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quote:^^^ It would not be correct to describe this as a concave facial profile because the lips protrude
Doesn't matter. His lips aren't in a natural position, and the middle of his face still curves inwards, albeit slightly.
quote:Once such differences are ascribed to geography, i.e. "typical of European" "and "nothing to do with how Egyptians depicted themselves" concepts easily form which are similar to what some people call "race"
Why, are you of the bizarre mindset that races co-vary with facial profiles? If the profiles of the European and Egyptian portrayals aligned, you'd be cheering, and more than happy to inform us how the Egyptian/European profiles don't occur in Central Africa.
Watsamatta Lyingass, your precious European and Egyptian profiles don't align, and now you've gotta denounce those difference, by alerting me to what others may think? Who gives a sh!t? Deal with the issue at hand. The bulk of the Med sculptures are easily distinguishable form the Egyptian works, in part because of the higher frequencies of concave facial profiles in Greco-Roman works, but also because of the high frequencies of brow ridges + deep set eyes, and other European features.
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: ^ LOL I guess the little ditz is frustrated cuz she has to repeat some classes in summer school.
quote:Originally posted by Swenet: Thanks for clarifying. Good to know how they fit into the puzzle. If I understand you correctly, they were basically the Italian equivalent of the Pelasgians.
It's funny you mention that because one of the evidences for the eastern origins theory is that they do in fact show ties to Pelasgian peoples of Greece and the Aegean islands!
quote:Originally posted by Anglo_PrimeIdiot: Hellanicus of Mytilene recorded that the Pelasgians of Thessaly departed for Italy where they founded Tyrrhenia (i.e. that the Pelasgians were the ancestors of the Etruscans).
Pelasgians and Etruscans were (yada, yada, same b.s. about mediterranean caca-soid race)
Yes. It wasn't just Hellanicus, but Herodotus, and various other Greek as well as Roman authors who give an Anatolian origin account. There were a few like Dionysius of Halicarnassus who suggest the indigenous theory, but most think they were of the same Anatolian extraction as the Pelasgians.
The origins of the Etruscans, a non-Indo-European population of preclassical Italy, are unclear. There is broad agreement that their culture developed locally, but the Etruscans’ evolutionary and migrational relationships are largely unknown. In this study, we determined mitochondrial DNA sequences in multiple clones derived from bone samples of 80 Etruscans who lived between the 7th and the 3rd centuries b.c. In the first phase of the study, we eliminated all specimens for which any of nine tests for validation of ancient DNA data raised the suspicion that either degradation or contamination by modern DNA might have occurred. On the basis of data from the remaining 30 individuals, the Etruscans appeared as genetically variable as modern populations. No significant heterogeneity emerged among archaeological sites or time periods, suggesting that different Etruscan communities shared not only a culture but also a mitochondrial gene pool. Genetic distances and sequence comparisons show closer evolutionary relationships with the eastern Mediterranean shores for the Etruscans than for modern Italian populations. All mitochondrial lineages observed among the Etruscans appear typically European or West Asian, but only a few haplotypes were found to have an exact match in a modern mitochondrial database, raising new questions about the Etruscans’ fate after their assimilation into the Roman state.
Yeah, good to know. I'm not really interested in their mtdna though. Male lineages is where the juice is for ancient European samples. What I'm interested in, is whether the Greeks got their E lineages from Pelasgian assimulation, or from them being Anatolians, originally.
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quote:Protrusion of the chin is known as mental protuberance, and its not the same as prognathism. It can occur both in the presence and absence of prognathism. So much for your degree in Forensic Anthropology.
Talking crap again...
Mental protuberance is the bony protuberance at the front of the lower jaw, it is a defining feature of anatomically modern Humans. As archaic homo had no chin or very poorly developed mentum. It appears in all modern races.
What you are posting is macrogenia, the overexuberant growth of the mental protuberance. This is a form of mandibular prognathism.
In Caucasoids, or 'Europeans' for sake of thread, macrogenia prognathism is not a recognised feature. It only appears in Europeans as a defect, just like other variations of mandibular prognathism like the Habsburg Jaw.
Downsyndromes have it, however it also appears in royals through inbreeding.
If you think macrogenia is a typical trait of Europeans, then you are damn retarded. Outside the minority of downsyndromes, inbreds etcetc, it isn't at all observed.
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^ Funny how you seem to be meticulous with all these cranial features yet ignore all the features associated with "negroids" when it occurs in Egyptians, other North Africans, and even West Asians and southern Europeans.
quote:Originally posted by the lyinass: what's the matter piece of shit you can't write "protruding chin" ?
(brachycephalic)
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Despite Lioness' stupid posts, she does have one valid point -
Swenet is a race denier loon, yet in this thread he has admitted that Europeans (Caucasoids) have distinct cranial features. In other words he recognises the fact seperate geographical populations cluster different craniometrically, a key factor of racial reality.
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quote:Mental protuberance is the bony protuberance at the front of the lower jaw, it is a defining feature of anatomically modern Humans. As archaic homo had no chin or very poorly developed mentum. It appears in all modern races.
Again, mentally deranged idiot, you’re seeing ghosts. For the second time in a row, you’re debating imaginary viewpoints. What did I just say in that post you responded to? I said mental protuberance it isn’t exclusive to Europeans.
quote:What you are posting is macrogenia, the overexuberant growth of the mental protuberance.
You’re talking out of your neck, as usual. My argument never relied on excessive mentum outgrowth, but rather, a concave facial profile. My argument also never relied on prognathism. WTF are you talking about?
quote:It only appears in Europeans as a defect, just like other variations of mandibular prognathism like the Habsburg Jaw.
You’re really seeing things, aren’t you? The only one who is talking about mandibular prognathism is you, and you still don’t get it, even after several people tried beating it into that ugly face of yours.
quote:In other words he recognises the fact seperate geographical populations cluster different craniometrically, a key factor of racial reality.
Boy, shut your mouf, before I give you another one of those intellectual beatings. The type of beating which is known to have you running away from your own threads. You know which thread I’m talking about (hint, AMH and the origin of the so called Caucasoid race). We can bump it right now.
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quote:In this Etruscan painting why is the female lighter than the male?
Because Caucasoid Europeans have the highest sexual dimorphism. Caucasoid or white females are always naturally lighter than men. See the research of anthropologist Peter Frost, who has written whole papers on this topic.
In Negroids there is very little sexual dimorphism. Black females are not lighter or different to black males in craniofacial terms. All that happened is that they piled more fat on the buttocks.
This is why black men like women with huge asses, while to the vast majority of white men this is seen as repulsive.
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