quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Arabia is an extension of Africa. Don't believe me? See what DNATribes think on ESR. Over 120 hits within 1 day.
Arabia is an extension of what part of Africa? What African country plays great importance in this extension?
quote:Originally posted by xyyman:
Within this agricultural zone range, EEF farmers came in contact with other ancient populations: In Europe and West Asia, EEF populations mixed with North Eurasians (including Siberian relatives of WHG hunter-gatherers). In the Arabian Peninsula, EEF farmers mixed with ancestral Sub-Saharan Africans RELATED to modern Nigerian, Gambian, and Botswanan populations. In Armenia and Georgia, EEF farmers mixed with South Asian (Indian Subcontinent) populations.
xyyman believes Arabia is an extension of Africa due to the quote from the DNA Tribes
" In the Arabian Peninsula, EEF farmers mixed with ancestral Sub-Saharan Africans RELATED to modern Nigerian, Gambian, and Botswanan populations."
^^^ He is taking this to mean in the Arabian peninsula there were ancestral Sub-Saharan Africans related to modern Nigerian, Gambian, and Botswanan populations.
This DNA Tribes article is based on Lazaridis et al
Ancient human genomes suggest three ancestral populations for present-day Europeans
"More speculatively, some basal Eurasian admixture in the Near East may reflect the early presence of anatomically modern humans 7 in the Levant, or the populations responsible for the appearance of the Nubian Complex in Arabia 8 , both of which date much earlier than the widespread dissemination of modern humans across Eurasia. Finally, it could reflect continuing more recent gene flows between the Near East and nearby Africa after the initial out-of-Africa dispersal, perhaps associated with the spread of Y-chromosome haplogroup E subclades from eastern Africa 9, 10 into the Near East, which appeared at least 7,000 years ago into Neolithic Europe 11 ." ______________________________________
However that's Sudan
When DNA Tribes says
" In the Arabian Peninsula, EEF farmers mixed with ancestral Sub-Saharan Africans RELATED to modern Nigerian, Gambian, and Botswanan populations."
I don't get it. EEF time period is 7500-8000 years ago. In that time period why are they talking about ancestral Sub-Saharan Africansrelated to modern Nigerian, Gambian, and Botswanan populations ?
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Archeologist: Persian Gulf sites hint at prehistoric people 06:12 PM
Emerging archeological evidence points to early human habitation 120,000 years ago in a Persian "Gulf Oasis" now underwater, suggests one archeologist.
In the upcoming Current Anthropology journal study, Jeffrey Rose of the United Kingdom's University of Birmingham, points to stone tools from 40 archeological sites throughout the Middle East to suggest that modern humans left Africa earlier than many model suggest (typically around 60,000 years ago), and populated Arabian coastal areas now underwater.
"The emerging picture of prehistoric Arabia suggests that early modern humans were able to survive periodic hyperarid oscillations by contracting into environmental refugia around the coastal margins of the peninsula," begins the study. The end of an Ice Age flooded today's Persian Gulf around 8,000 years ago, Rose notes, as sea levels rose. "There is a noticeable spike in settlement activity around the shoreline of the Gulf between 8,500 and 6,000 years ago," Rose says.
Archeologist Geoffrey Bailey of the United Kingdom's University of York, says the study's suggestion that Arabian continental shelves served as good environments for human during Ice Ages, "and served as a source of population expansion in the early Holocene (last 10,000 years), is an attractive one."
However, Robert Carter of the UK's Oxford Brookes University, questions the links that Rose sees between ancient stone age tools and the later Sumerian civilization, in a commentary accompanying the report.
"Unless one completely dismisses the notion that lithic technology is passed down the generations, there are problems with assigning both the populations of southern Mesopotamia and eastern Arabia to the same demographic origin in the Gulf basin. The leptolithic (blade-based) industry of early southern Mesopotamia has little in common with the Arabian bifacial tradition(s) that prevailed in the Arabian Peninsula between 8 and 6 (thousand years ago)," Carter writes.
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