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I see two different Budge translations of the 42 Negative confessions, papyrus of ani
But why ?

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http://www.touregypt.net/negativeconfessions.htm

The Declaration of Innocence from the Book of the Dead
Translated by E.A. Wallis Budge
c.1240 BCE


1.I have not committed sin.
2.I have not committed robbery with violence.
3. I have not stolen.
4.I have not slain men and women.
5.I have not stolen grain.
6.I have not purloined offerings.
7.I have not stolen the property of the gods.
8.I have not uttered lies.
9.I have not carried away food.
10. I have not uttered curses.
11.I have not committed adultery
12. I have made none to weep.
13. I have not eaten the heart [i.e., I have not grieved uselessly, or felt remorse].
14. I have not attacked any man.
15. I am not a man of deceit.
16. I have not stolen cultivated land.
17. I have not been an eavesdropper.
18.I have slandered [no man].
19. I have not been angry without just cause.
20. I have not debauched the wife of any man.
21. I have not debauched the wife of [any] man. (repeats the previous affirmation but addressed to a different god).
22. I have not polluted myself.
23. I have terrorized none.
24. I have not transgressed [the Law].
25. I have not been wroth.
26. I have not shut my ears to the words of truth.
27. I have not blasphemed.
28. I am not a man of violence.
29. I am not a stirrer up of strife (or a disturber of the peace).
30. I have not acted (or judged) with undue haste.
31. I have not pried into matters.
32. I have not multiplied my words in speaking.
33. I have wronged none, I have done no evil.
34. I have not worked witchcraft against the King (or blasphemed against the King).
35. I have never stopped [the flow of] water.
36. I have never raised my voice (spoken arrogantly, or in anger).
37. I have not cursed (or blasphemed) God.
38. I have not acted with evil rage.
39. I have not stolen the bread of the gods.
40. I have not carried away the khenfu cakes from the spirits of the dead.
41. I have not snatched away the bread of the child, nor treated with contempt the god of my city.
42. I have not slain the cattle belonging to the god.

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VERSION 2
Wallace Budge


1 I have not done iniquity.
2 I have not robbed with violence.
3 I have not stolen.
4 I have done no murder, I have done no harm.
5 I have not defrauded offerings
6 I have not diminished obligations.
7 I have not plundered the Netcher.
8 I have not spoken lies.
9 I have not snatched away food.
10 I have not caused pain.
11 I have not committed fornication.
12 I have not caused shedding of tears.
13 I have not dealt deceitfully.
14 I have not transgressed.
15 I have not acted guilefully.
16 I have not laid wasted the ploughed land.
17 I have not been an eavesdropper.
18 I have not set my lips in motion (against any man)
19 I have not been angry and wrathful except for a just cause
20 I have not defiled the wife of any man.
I have not defiled the wife of any man. (repeated twice)
21 I have not polluted myself.
22 I have not caused terror.
23 I have not transgressed. (repeated twice)
24 I have not burned with rage.
25 I have not stopped my ears against the words of Right and Truth (Ma'at)
26 I have not worked grief.
27 I have not acted with insolence
28 I have not stirred up strife.
29 I have not judged hastily.
30 I have not been an eavesdropper. (repeated twice)
31 I have not multiplied words exceedingly.
32 I have not done neither harm nor ill.
33 I have never cursed the King.
34 I have never fouled the water.
35 I have not spoken scornfully.
36 I have never cursed the Netcher.
37 I have not stolen.
38 I have not defrauded the offerings of the Netcher
39 I have not plundered the offerings of the blessed dead.
40 I have not filched the food of the infant, neither have
41 I sinned against the Netcher of my native town.
42 I have not slaughtered with evil intent the cattle of the Netcher.

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Here's another but from the Papyrus of Nu
(but 38 here)

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From the Papyrus of Nu
From the Book of the Dead Translated by E.A. Wallis Budge Brit. Mus. No. 10477, Sheet 22

[THE FOLLOWING] WORDS SHALL BE SAID BY THE STEWARD OF THE KEEPER OF THE SEAL, NU, WHOSE WORD IS TRUTH, WHEN HE COMETH FORTH TO THE HALL OF MAATI, SO THAT HE MAY BE SEPARATED FROM EVERY SIN WHICH HE HATH COMMITTED, AND MAY BEHOLD THE FACES OF THE GODS.
The Osiris Nu, whose word is truth, saith: Homage to thee, O great God, Lord of Maati! I have come unto thee, O my Lord, and I have brought myself hither that I may behold thy beauties. I know thee, I know thy name, I know the names of the Forty-two Gods who live with thee in this Hall of Maati, who live by keeping ward over sinners, and who feed upon their blood on the day when the consciences of men are reckoned up in the presence of the god Un-Nefer. In truth thy name is Rehti-Merti-Nebti-Maati. In truth I have come unto thee, I have brought Maati (Truth) to thee. I have done away sin for thee.

1 I have not committed sins against men.
2 I have not opposed my family and kinsfolk.
3 I have not acted fraudulently in the Seat of Truth.
4 I have not known men who were of no account.
5 I have not wrought evil.
6 I have not made it to be the first [consideration daily that unnecessary] work should be done for me.
7 I have not brought forward my name for dignities.
8 I have not [attempted] to direct servants. [I have not domineered over slaves.]
9 I have not belittled God.
10 I have not defrauded the humble man of his property.
11 I have not done what the gods abominate.
12 I have not vilified a slave to his master.
13 I have not inflicted pain.
14 I have not caused anyone to go hungry.
15 I have not made any man to weep.
16 I have not committed murder.
17 I have not given the order for murder to be committed.
18 I have not caused calamities to befall men and women.
19 I have not plundered the offerings in the temples.
20 I have not defrauded the gods of their cake-offerings.
21 I have not carried off the fenkhu cakes [offered to] the Spirits.
22 I have not committed fornication.
23I have not masturbated [in the sanctuaries of the god of my city].
24 I have not diminished from the bushel.
25 I have not filched [land from my neighbour's estate and] added it to my own acre.
26 I have not encroached upon the fields [of others].
27 I have not added to the weights of the scales.
28 I have not depressed the pointer of the balance.
29 I have not carried away the milk from the mouths of children.
30 I have not driven the cattle away from their pastures.
31 I have not snared the geese in the goose-pens of the gods.
32 I have not caught fish with bait made of the bodies of the same kind of fish.
33 I have not stopped water when it should flow.
34 I have not made a cutting in a canal of running water.
35 I have not extinguished a fire when it should burn.
36 I have not violated the times [of offering] the chosen meat offerings.
37 I have not driven away the cattle on the estates of the gods.
38 I have not turned back the god at his appearances.

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Ani ain't the only one bought The Book of Coming Forth by Day.
We even have a woman's copy.
Females had to plea innocent of sexing another's husband.

Ani's Declaration of Innocence* hieroglyphs are available for all to xlate.

Apparently the penetrated male was a disrespected laughing stock.
Set, a figure of isfet (anti-maat) wanted to bugger nephew Horus.
Horus consulted his mother about uncle Set's proposition.
On Isis' scheme Horus hand caught Set's sperm, shot doing intrafemoral climax.

Heru glopped it into a container as advised.
When the Gods were feasting Set denounced Heru as gay.
To prove it Set says he will make the sperm come out.
But adhering to Isis' plan, Heru had poured the semen on Set's salad.
By his own magic, Set drooled out Heru's ejaculate.
The Gods and Goddesses fell out laughing their black asses off.
Isis triumphed over her brother Set (curses, foiled again!).

And that's why ancient Egyptians saw lettuce as an aphrodisiac.

As in Roman civ only the passively receptive male was considered the queer.


But amidst all this above all remember.
Moral 'religion' with after death resurrection, judgement, and reward/punishment.
It doesn't begin with Hebrews Torah, Greeks Gospels & Letters, or Arabs Quran.
The Black Man / Black Woman of the Nile invented it.
It was borrowed by others.

This is one of the main stakes for denying black Egypt.
A moral God who judges your deeds must be West Eurasian.
Very few non-Polish modern West Eurasians can accept their God as black.
Isis and Black Madonna be damned.
Osiris father, Horus son, Isis holy ghost impregnated mother of God.


* Declaration of Innocence = 42 Negative Confessions

42 Gods each charged with a particular moral provenance were hailed by the resurrected who claimed not to trangress.

The resurrected claimed not to have transgressed each particular moral provenance resided over by one of 42 Gods each hailed in turn.

This holy and sacred AE scripture by Nile blacks is the first to taboo male->> male.
Many centuries before Sinai Torah outlaws a male laying a male as if he were a female.

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Imparting your knowledge as usual .as the Sage.

This is a keeper.

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quote:
Originally posted by Tukuler:
[QB] Ani ain't the only one bought The Book of Coming Forth by Day.
We even have a woman's copy.
Females had to plea innocent of sexing another's husband.

Ani's Declaration of Innocence* hieroglyphs are available for all to xlate.


In the two versions I have shown, they are both of male orientation

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http://www.touregypt.net/negativeconfessions.htm

The Declaration of Innocence from the Book of the Dead
Translated by E.A. Wallis Budge
c.1240 BCE


15. I am not a man of deceit.

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https://books.google.com/books?id=mCEa51VXHocC&pg=PA347&lpg=PA347&dq=%22I+have+done+no+murder,+I+have+done+no+harm.%22+papyrus&sour

VERSION 2
Wallace Budge


I have not defiled the wife of any man.


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https://books.google.com/books?id=mCEa51VXHocC&pg=PA347&lpg=PA347&dq=%22I+have+done+no+murder,+I+have+done+no+harm.%22+papyrus&sour

VERSION 2
Wallace Budge


I have not done iniquity.
I have not robbed with violence.
I have not stolen.
I have done no murder, I have done no harm.
I have not defrauded offerings
. I have not diminished obligations.
I have not plundered the Netcher.
I have not spoken lies. I have not snatched away food.
I have not caused pain.
I have not committed fornication. I have not caused shedding of tears.
I have not dealt deceitfully.
I have not transgressed.
I have not acted guilefully.
I have not laid wasted the ploughed land.
I have not been an eavesdropper.
I have not set my lips in motion (against any man)
. I have not been angry and wrathful except for a just cause
. I have not defiled the wife of any man.
I have not defiled the wife of any man. (repeated twice)
I have not polluted myself.
I have not caused terror.
I have not transgressed. (repeated twice)
I have not burned with rage.
I have not stopped my ears against the words of Right and Truth (Ma'at)
I have not worked grief.
I have not acted with insolence
I have not stirred up strife.
I have not judged hastily.
I have not been an eavesdropper. (repeated twice)
I have not multiplied words exceedingly.
I have not done neither harm nor ill.
I have never cursed the King.
I have never fouled the water.
I have not spoken scornfully.
I have never cursed the Netcher.
I have not stolen.
I have not defrauded the offerings of the Netcher
. I have not plundered the offerings of the blessed dead.
I have not filched the food of the infant, neither have I sinned against the Netcher of my native town.
I have not slaughtered with evil intent the cattle of the Netcher.

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Looking at the above version 2 again, it has some similarity in wording to a different papyrus, Nebseni in yet another book by Budge, but also differences

https://books.google.com/books?id=L19PDAAAQBAJ&pg=PT713&lpg=PT713&dq=%22slaughtered+with+evil#v=o

or the second version is from the papyrus of Nu

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
I see two different Budge translations of the 42 Negative confessions, papyrus of ani
But why ?

_________________________________________


http://www.touregypt.net/negativeconfessions.htm

The Declaration of Innocence from the Book of the Dead
Translated by E.A. Wallis Budge
c.1240 BCE


1.I have not committed sin.
2.I have not committed robbery with violence.
3. I have not stolen.
4.I have not slain men and women.
5.I have not stolen grain.
6.I have not purloined offerings.
7.I have not stolen the property of the gods.
8.I have not uttered lies.
9.I have not carried away food.
10. I have not uttered curses.
11.I have not committed adultery
12. I have made none to weep.
13. I have not eaten the heart [i.e., I have not grieved uselessly, or felt remorse].
14. I have not attacked any man.
15. I am not a man of deceit.
16. I have not stolen cultivated land.
17. I have not been an eavesdropper.
18.I have slandered [no man].
19. I have not been angry without just cause.
20. I have not debauched the wife of any man.
21. I have not debauched the wife of [any] man. (repeats the previous affirmation but addressed to a different god).
22. I have not polluted myself.
23. I have terrorized none.
24. I have not transgressed [the Law].
25. I have not been wroth.
26. I have not shut my ears to the words of truth.
27. I have not blasphemed.
28. I am not a man of violence.
29. I am not a stirrer up of strife (or a disturber of the peace).
30. I have not acted (or judged) with undue haste.
31. I have not pried into matters.
32. I have not multiplied my words in speaking.
33. I have wronged none, I have done no evil.
34. I have not worked witchcraft against the King (or blasphemed against the King).
35. I have never stopped [the flow of] water.
36. I have never raised my voice (spoken arrogantly, or in anger).
37. I have not cursed (or blasphemed) God.
38. I have not acted with evil rage.
39. I have not stolen the bread of the gods.
40. I have not carried away the khenfu cakes from the spirits of the dead.
41. I have not snatched away the bread of the child, nor treated with contempt the god of my city.
42. I have not slain the cattle belonging to the god.

_____________________________________

https://books.google.com/books?id=mCEa51VXHocC&pg=PA347&lpg=PA347&dq=%22I+have+done+no+murder,+I+have+done+no+harm.%22+papyrus&sour

VERSION 2
Wallace Budge


I have not done iniquity.
I have not robbed with violence.
I have not stolen.
I have done no murder, I have done no harm.
I have not defrauded offerings
. I have not diminished obligations.
I have not plundered the Netcher.
I have not spoken lies. I have not snatched away food.
I have not caused pain.
I have not committed fornication. I have not caused shedding of tears.
I have not dealt deceitfully.
I have not transgressed.
I have not acted guilefully.
I have not laid wasted the ploughed land.
I have not been an eavesdropper.
I have not set my lips in motion (against any man)
. I have not been angry and wrathful except for a just cause
. I have not defiled the wife of any man.
I have not defiled the wife of any man. (repeated twice)
I have not polluted myself.
I have not caused terror.
I have not transgressed. (repeated twice)
I have not burned with rage.
I have not stopped my ears against the words of Right and Truth (Ma'at)
I have not worked grief.
I have not acted with insolence
I have not stirred up strife.
I have not judged hastily.
I have not been an eavesdropper. (repeated twice)
I have not multiplied words exceedingly.
I have not done neither harm nor ill.
I have never cursed the King.
I have never fouled the water.
I have not spoken scornfully.
I have never cursed the Netcher.
I have not stolen.
I have not defrauded the offerings of the Netcher
. I have not plundered the offerings of the blessed dead.
I have not filched the food of the infant, neither have I sinned against the Netcher of my native town.
I have not slaughtered with evil intent the cattle of the Netcher.

What book is the first version from?

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quote:
Originally posted by the questioner:
What book is the first version from?

https://books.google.com/books?id=Pd3fAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA576&dq=%22+I+have+not+committed+sin+%22+negative+budge&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiC-

The Papyrus of Ani: A Reproduction in Facsimile, Volume 2
By Sir Ernest Alfred Wallis Budge
1913

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77 negative Confessions


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compiled from various Papyrus

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1. I have not caused suffering to humans
2. I have not been intrigued by ambition
3. I have not deprived a poor person of their subsistence
4. I have not committed acts that are loathed by the Neteru
(male and female Gods)
5. I have not caused suffering to others
6. I have not stolen offerings from temples
7. I have not stolen bread meant for the Neteru
8. I have not stolen offerings destined to sanctify spirits
9. I have not committed shameful acts inside the
sacrosancts of temples
10. I have not sinned against nature with one's own kind,
11. I have not taken milk from the mouth of a child,
12. I have not fished using other fish as bait
13. I have not extinguished fire when it should burn
14. I have not violated the rules of meat offerings
15. I have not taken possession of properties belonging to
temples and the Neteru
16. I have not prevented a Neteru from manifesting itself
17. I have not caused crying
18. I have not made scornful signs
19. I have not became angry or entered a dispute without just cause
20. I have not made myself impure
21. I have not refused to listen to words of Truth and Justice
22. I have not blasphemed
23. I have not sinned by excess of speech
24. I have not spoken scornfully
25. I have not cursed divinity
26. I have not cheated on the offerings to the Neteru
27. I have not wasted the offerings to the departed
28. I have not snatched food from children or caused
Isfet (opposite of Ma'at) against the Neteru of one's city
29. I have not killed divine animals with bad intentions
30. I have not cheated
31. I have not robbed or looted
32. I have not stolen
33. I have not killed
34. I have not destroyed offerings
35. I have not reduced measurements
36. I have not stolen properties belonging to the Neteru
37. I have not lied
38. I have not snatched away food or wealth
39. I have not caused pain
40. I have not fornicated with the fornicators
41. I have not acted dishonestly
42. I have not transgressed
44. I have not stolen farmlands
45. I have not revealed secrets
46. I have not courted another's wife/husband
47. I have not slept with another's wife/husband
48. I have not caused terror
49. I have not rebelled
50. I have not been the cause of anger or hot tempers
51. I have not acted with insolence
52. I have not caused misunderstandings
53. I have not misjudged or judged hastily
54. I have not been impatient
55. I have not caused illness or wounds
56. I have not cursed a Nsw (king)
57. I have not clouded drinking water
58. I have not dispossessed
59. I have not used violence against family
60. I have not frequented wickeds
61. I have not substituted injustice for justice
62. I have not committed crimes
63. I have not overworked others for one's gain
64. I have not mistreated their servants
65. I have not menaced
66. I have not allowed a servant to be mistreated
by his/her master
67. I have not induced famine
68. I have not gotten angry
69. I have not killed or ordered a murder
70. I have not committed abominable acts
71. I have not committed treason
72. I have not tried to increase one's domain by
using illegal means
73. I have not usurped funds and property
of others
74. I have not seized cattle on prairies
75. I have not trapped poultry that are destined to the Neteru
76. I have not obstructed water in the moment
it is suppose to run
77. I have not broken dams that are established
on current waters

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