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Doesn't matter what they think or say. They aren't authorities on the subject. lol
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That's right. None of us are experts yet im the only that doesn't claim to be an authority and authoring books on subjects that i have no expertise in. Also summarizing the main points wouldn't have done this topic justice because i have to demonstrate his claim, demonstrate his error and demonstrate what the correct way. The subject is a book on the linguistic connection Between wolof and Egyptian that Diop postulated in his 77 book "Parenté génétique de l'égyptien pharaonique et des langues négro-africaines: processus de sémitisation" The video goes over basic grammar of wolof in contrast to Egyptian grammar vs what diop wrote in his book. Throughout the presentation the basics of the comparative method are discussed. Then his 300 page lexicon is broken down showing inconsistent sound correspondences among other flaws. It being 4 hours is not an excuse for not watching it. You can watch 1 hour here and there.
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That's right. None of us are experts yet im the only that doesn't claim to be an authority and authoring books on subjects their not experts. Also who summarizing the main points wouldn't have done this topic justice because i have to demonstrate his claim, demonstrate his error and demonstrate what the correct way. The subject is a book on the linguistic connection Between wolof and Egyptian that Diop postulated in his 77 book "Parenté génétique de l'égyptien pharaonique et des langues négro-africaines: processus de sémitisation" The video goes over basic grammar of wolof in contrast to Egyptian grammar vs what diop wrote in his book. Throughout the presentation the basics of the comparative method are discussed. Then his 300 page lexicon is broken down showing inconsistent sound correspondences among other flaws. It being 4 hours is not an excuse for not watching it. You can watch 1 hour here and there.
I commend you on your efforts, however part of the academic process is the ability to summarize your thesis or rebuttal.
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That's right. None of us are experts yet im the only that doesn't claim to be an authority and authoring books on subjects their not experts. Also who summarizing the main points wouldn't have done this topic justice because i have to demonstrate his claim, demonstrate his error and demonstrate what the correct way. The subject is a book on the linguistic connection Between wolof and Egyptian that Diop postulated in his 77 book "Parenté génétique de l'égyptien pharaonique et des langues négro-africaines: processus de sémitisation" The video goes over basic grammar of wolof in contrast to Egyptian grammar vs what diop wrote in his book. Throughout the presentation the basics of the comparative method are discussed. Then his 300 page lexicon is broken down showing inconsistent sound correspondences among other flaws. It being 4 hours is not an excuse for not watching it. You can watch 1 hour here and there.
I commend you on your efforts, however part of the academic process is the ability to summarize your thesis or rebuttal.
The rebuttal is summarized in the beginning that Diop was wrong about the Wolof and Egyptian connection on the basis of he didn't understand the grammar of Wolof, Noun classes, failed to show systematic cognancy with sound correspondences, did not use the comparative method correctly and used the same scientific racist views that he detested himself. That was summarized in the beginning
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That's right. None of us are experts yet im the only that doesn't claim to be an authority and authoring books on subjects that i have no expertise in. Also summarizing the main points wouldn't have done this topic justice because i have to demonstrate his claim, demonstrate his error and demonstrate what the correct way. The subject is a book on the linguistic connection Between wolof and Egyptian that Diop postulated in his 77 book "Parenté génétique de l'égyptien pharaonique et des langues négro-africaines: processus de sémitisation" The video goes over basic grammar of wolof in contrast to Egyptian grammar vs what diop wrote in his book. Throughout the presentation the basics of the comparative method are discussed. Then his 300 page lexicon is broken down showing inconsistent sound correspondences among other flaws. It being 4 hours is not an excuse for not watching it. You can watch 1 hour here and there.
So Diop, Obenga and Mboli all failed to show Niger-Congo language as ancestral to Egyptian am I correct?
It seems the most noticeable proponents in the conscious community at the present moment are Jabari Osaze, Mfundishi and Baba Heru althugh Jabari doesn't seem to harp on word details proving links to bantu language.
They have created Neo-Egyptian organizations ( would it be fair to call it Black Egyptomania?) You will hear them say "our ancestors in Kemet" Yet they can't prove they have Egyptian ancestors. However I ask you this if the West Europeans revived the lost knowledge of the Greeks and Romans and produced their Renaissance with many of them having no Greek ancestors could we do the same with Egypt?
Yet, however you said instead of looking at the opposite side of the continent for linguistic connections that it would make more sense to focus on more nearby languages, Cushitic and so on And you kept bringing up genetics but what about the fact that they predicted Ramses III as E1b1a? That is dominant in West Africa. Although possibly originating in the horn it is E1b1b that is more common in N.E Africa
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That's right. None of us are experts yet im the only that doesn't claim to be an authority and authoring books on subjects that i have no expertise in. Also summarizing the main points wouldn't have done this topic justice because i have to demonstrate his claim, demonstrate his error and demonstrate what the correct way. The subject is a book on the linguistic connection Between wolof and Egyptian that Diop postulated in his 77 book "Parenté génétique de l'égyptien pharaonique et des langues négro-africaines: processus de sémitisation" The video goes over basic grammar of wolof in contrast to Egyptian grammar vs what diop wrote in his book. Throughout the presentation the basics of the comparative method are discussed. Then his 300 page lexicon is broken down showing inconsistent sound correspondences among other flaws. It being 4 hours is not an excuse for not watching it. You can watch 1 hour here and there.
So Diop, Obenga and Mboli all failed to show Niger-Congo language as ancestral to Egyptian am I correct?
It seems the most noticeable proponents in the conscious community at the present moment are Jabari Osaze, Mfundishi and Baba Heru althugh Jabari doesn't seem to harp on word details proving links to bantu language.
They have created Neo-Egyptian organizations ( would it be fair to call it Black Egyptomania?) You will hear them say "our ancestors in Kemet" Yet they can't prove they have Egyptian ancestors. However I ask you this if the West Europeans revived the lost knowledge of the Greeks and Romans and produced their Renaissance with many of them having no Greek ancestors could we do the same with Egypt?
Yet, however you said instead of looking at the opposite side of the continent for linguistic connections that it would make more sense to focus on more nearby languages, Cushitic and so on And you kept bringing up genetics but what about the fact that they predicted Ramses III as E1b1a? That is dominant in West Africa. Although possibly originating in the horn it is E1b1b that is more common in N.E Africa
Yes they all failed to show that connection. And Ramses the III having E1b1a doesn't imply that he was West African because the Siwa Oasis holds leftover haplogroups from the Early Holocene period where A, B E3a, E3b and R1b are still found til this day. However the West African Egyptian connection is vague and ambiguous while the connection to the people in the vicinity of the nile is more apparent.
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They went to the other side Cushitic ( east ) to find sub Saharan connections to ancient Egypt and skipped Chadic?
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Who skipped Chadic? because Chadic and Egyptian share a lot of cognates between themselves thats not present in other branches..
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what? the evolution and history of Africa and Europe are not the same... the last wave of Europeans from the Steppe regions invaded Europe and wiped out most of the previous Mesolithic hunter-gatherer populations. The Sahara is a huge barrier obviously. the West africans themselves invaded from the Central forest and subjugated the older archaic human populations and the pygmy's of course. Then you also have the Nilo-Saharans who expanded across the Sahara following the Holocene wet phase. They most likely followed fauna into the Sahara/Sahelian belt. And then of course the later expansion of the Amazigh and Chadic speaking populations. There simply isn't a West African connection the Egyptians.
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quote:Originally posted by Cain30906: what? the evolution and history of Africa and Europe are not the same... the last wave of Europeans from the Steppe regions invaded Europe and wiped out most of the previous Mesolithic hunter-gatherer populations. The Sahara is a huge barrier obviously. the West africans themselves invaded from the Central forest and subjugated the older archaic human populations and the pygmy's of course. Then you also have the Nilo-Saharans who expanded across the Sahara following the Holocene wet phase. They most likely followed fauna into the Sahara/Sahelian belt. And then of course the later expansion of the Amazigh and Chadic speaking populations. There simply isn't a West African connection the Egyptians.
Which West Africans?
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Not all current West African's groups are from the Central African Forest.
The Atlantic is a stop point on the African continent just like it is on the Eurasian continent.
Current "groups" in West Africa are a combination of African groups from Sahara/Sahelian to Central African Forest. West African's if one would like to use that term are heterogeneous.
In Nigeria alone there are 250 ethnic groups 520 languages. Do you know from which direction each group originated from? Which groups are indigenous? Which groups are genetically homogeneous?
Do you know each groups oral history of their origins?
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If the discussion is Wolof people then obviously we are talking about "Niger Congo" speaking West Africans. These West Africans are the ones that first reached West Africa from Central Africa and subjugated the hunter-gatherer populations. Im restricting the conversation about Niger COngo speaking people of West AFrica. Diop only discussed Wolof in his book. Therefore when I say West Africans im referring to Niger Congo speaking groups. And the majority of the Groups along the Sahel/Sahara belt are Nilo-Saharan and Afro-Asiatic.
Im well aware of the situation in Nigeria. Northern Nigeria has a lot of Afro-Asiatic speaking populations who came through the Sahelian/Sahara.
And Oral history is highly unreliable without any evidence. The Yoruba have several conflicting oral histories. Now even the igbo's say they came from Israel and in 50 years that will be an oral history.
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Oral histories need to be substantiated by something... A lot of people misuse oral histories. Like a group says we came from the East or the North the first thing an afro-centric will say is "oh they came from Egypt" or the nile valley...
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No some WA groups claim to be from Upper Egypt, many of them claimed this before there was such a thing as an afrocentric.
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Some WA groups claim to be from North Cameroon (Central Africa) Benue Valley for instance the Tiv
By the way North Cameroon is grassland not jungle.
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Diop never claimed that the Wolof were Egyptian rather he claimed the Wolof to be of Nilo Saharan origin
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Further evidence for Niger Saharan and the problem of Pan African Roots
This paper was originally presented at the VIIth Nilo-Saharan Conference in Vienna, 2-6th September, 1998 and has been revised for publication. It was sent to the editor, Norbert Cyffer in 1999 and proofed in 2000. Its non-appearance is a mystery and there is s strong suspicion it won’t be published. http://www.rogerblench.info/Language/Nilo-Saharan/General/Niger-Saharan%20paper%20II.pdf
5. Conclusions Evidence presented here further increases the likelihood of the Niger-Saharan hypothesis reflecting some facet of historical reality. Nonetheless, it also underlines a pervasive problem in historical linguistics, the impossibility of searching all external languages for cognates and the interpretation of such cognates if discovered. It is clear that some roots occur widely across the world’s language phyla and that these either have a phonaesthetic source or reflect some deep historical relations as yet little suspected. There appear also to be Pan-African roots, scattered across African language phyla, whose sources are difficult to discern and which cannot therefore be used in the identification and classification of individual phyla. Some of these lexical items have been commonly cited in classificatory studies, and this therefore casts doubt on the volume of evidence supporting any given hypothesis.
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The Balanta were fiercely independent people. Their patrilineage households were divided into age groups and genders. They love to celebrate festivals and traditional holidays. The Balanta people believed that their ancestors came from the east, Egypt, Ethiopia, and India. DNA research has supported their claims and found a Sudanese origin. Sudan was called Nubia and Egypt in ancient times. The DNA, M1 marker is found in the Balanta people, and the M1 marker is most common in the Nile Valley and East Africa.
The Balanta (Guinea-Bissau Creole and Portuguese: balanta; French: balante; lit. “those who resist” in Balanta) are an ethnic group found in Guinea-Bissau, Senegal and The Gambia. They are the largest ethnic group of Guinea-Bissau, representing more than one-quarter of the population. Despite their numbers, they have remained outside the colonial and postcolonial state because of their social organisation. The Balanta can be divided into four subgroups, three of which are Balanta Kentohe, Balanta Ganja and Balanta Brassa, the largest of which are the Balanta Brassa.
Archaeologists believe that the people who became the Balanta migrated to present-day Guinea-Bissau in small groups between the 10th and 14th centuries CE. Oral tradition amongst the Balanta has it that they migrated westward from the area that is now Egypt, Sudan and Ethiopia to escape drought and wars. During the 19th century, they spread throughout the area that is now Guinea-Bissau and southern Senegal in order to resist the expansion of the Kaabu kingdom. Today, the Balanta are mostly found in the southern and central regions of Guinea-Bissau.
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Other WA groups claiming origin from the east.
These minor imprints may represent movements from Sahel's more central and eastern parts, seen, for example, in the typically Ethiopian/Sudanese E3*-PN2 lineages that have reached Senegambia [2, 3, 5]. The Djola's oral tradition claims an arrival from Sudan in the 15th-16th centuries which is supported by their carrying the lowest fraction of E3a* in our dataset (58.0%). At the same time, the relatively short time of residence and/or the genetic isolation on cultural grounds has not contributed to a greater homogeneity among the peoples. The Papel, curiously also affiliated to the Bak-speakers, may either represent a legacy left by earlier inhabitants of the Guinean delta, survivors of an ancient pool through demographic reductions and expansions, or later arrivers who have preserved a more discrete genetic identity.
Of greater prevalence in the East quadrant of Africa and among South African Khoisan (~12% and 15%, respectively; [2, 5]) the paragroup E3b*-M35 is common to Felupe-Djola and Papel (~2%) but is also found among Fulbe and Mandenka (~4%). Its presence at ~2% in Guinea-Bissau and ~5% in Senegal may also indicate loose relationships to the North, where it is widespread at rather low frequencies (2–4%, [1, 26, 33, 34, 35]. A similar scenario of Eastern prevalence and North African spread traces the African distribution of E3b1-M78 (~26% in Sudan and Ethiopia and 19% in NW-African Arabs), not to mention the ~7% in the Near Eastern and European people [1, 5, 26, 33, 34, 35]. In Guinea-Bissau this haplogroup attains the highest frequency so far reported for West Africa (~4%).
The remainder of binary marker variation falls into haplogroups A, B and R, each detected at marginal frequencies (0.4–3.9%). Clades A-M91 and B-M60, the most divergent of the haplogroups of the Y chromosome tree, are associated with the earliest modern human diversification and are putative markers of the first pan-African dispersals of hunter-gatherers [2, 3, 7, 20, 36]. However, the Guinea-Bissau A-M91 lineages do not belong to the widespread A3-M32 but to the A1-M31 subcluster, with reported marginal presence in Mali (2.0% [2, 7]), Gambia/Senegal Mandinka (5.1% [7]) and North African Berbers (3.1% [1, 33, 34, 35]). Any association of Balanta to the Sudanese-speakers is traceable only in the A3b2-M13 and E3* Y chromosomes. The B-M60 variant observed in almost all sub-Saharan collections [28] was only found in Nalú. One other Nalú individual belongs to the rare and deep-rooting DE* paragroup described in five Nigerians [37] and thus representing a coalescent "missing link", paraphyletic to haplogroups D and E
The Fulani speak a Niger-Congo language. They probably came to West Africa from Nubia. Welmers (2) explained that the Niger-Congo homeland was in the vicinity of the upper Nile valley, not Niger Basin. The archaeological evidence supports this view, indicating that only in the past 3 ky did people begin to occupy the Niger Basin.
Rosa et al. (3) noted that most Niger-Congo speakers like the Mande and Balanta carry the E3a-M2 gene, whereas a number of Felupe-Djola, Papel, Fulbe, and Mande carry the M3b*-M35 gene, the same as many people in the Sudan.
In addition to haplogroup E3, we also find some carriers of R1*-M173. Most carriers of Y chromosome M173 in Africa speak Niger-Congo languages (Fig. 1).
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[QB] The Balanta were fiercely independent people. Their patrilineage households were divided into age groups and genders. They love to celebrate festivals and traditional holidays. The Balanta people believed that their ancestors came from the east, Egypt, Ethiopia, and India. DNA research has supported their claims and found a Sudanese origin. Sudan was called Nubia and Egypt in ancient times. The DNA, M1 marker is found in the Balanta people, and the M1 marker is most common in the Nile Valley and East Africa.
This thread is about if there are linguistic connections between ancient Egyptian language and other cultures. If we are looking at Sudanese groups, the fact that they are Sudanese does not instantly make them descendants of dynastic Egypt. The Balanta speak the Niger-Congo language Bak. Either that is related to ancient Egyptian or it's not.
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See this is exactly why i don't like discussing oral histories with afro centrics lol
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And diop in the book i reviewed clearly stated that the Egyptian and wolof share a direct ancestor. Implying that they were one and the wolof traveled west. Did you read the book that i reviewed?
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Yes Diop said share an ancestor not descendant read your own writing.
And I am not an "afrocentric" I am a truthcentric and a historian I know that means "truth" is hard to come by. However, as a historian I know good and well that Eurocentric scientific results should be approached with caution and investigative rigor.
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I have read all of Diop's work, Diop argued for an Southern African/Upper Egypt substratum to what would become Egypt. and that substratum was shared by some West African groups. You said there was no evidence but I produced genetic evidence and linguistic evidence and you are ignoring that.
And there is MORE evidence that I have not posted . WA is as interesting and diverse as Europe with multiple origins for its current population.
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quote:Originally posted by Yatunde Lisa: [QB] I have read all of Diop's work, Diop argued for an Southern African/Upper Egypt substratum to what would become Egypt. and that substratum was shared by some West African groups. You said there was no evidence but I produced genetic evidence and linguistic evidence and you are ignoring that.
So anybody that carries M1 is a descendant of the ancient Egyptian civilization?
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Reading is fundamental. Not a descendant. Please stop with the obfuscating.
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Ngozi is an agent with no college degree who thinks he is an "expert" on human genetics. He is also a racist, or shall I say colorist. Ngozi, Team Osiris & Lioness refuse to understand Diop and mischaracterize his assertions on African history.
Team Osiris?
You are irrelevant. Nobody is listening, even if you had a truth to tell your arrogant spirit and disdain for your supposed audience comes through your overly long lectures.
You wanna teach? You wanna change afrocentrics? Then get a PHD and tackle Diop on the academic level.
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Ok where do you see where i said that diop says that they are "descendant of Egyptians"? Please quote me.
I'll say it One more time, Diop wrote this book to demonstrate, along with his other hypothesis, that Egyptians and wolof descended from a common ancestor. I don't know if your having a hard time comprehending or you just like to argue. All this time you spent going back and forth about things i didn't even mention in the video you could've watched part of the video and at least formulated a legit rebuttal. I didn't mention anything about Cameroonians, oral histories or none of that. Those are things you brought up that have nothing to do with my argument.
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1 outside of the stagnant conscious community no one takes diops dated hypotheses seriously.
2 as far as Ngozi being a colorist or racist is a lie. However i can read this book and point out numerous times where diop used the same racist methodologies that he detested himself. Lighter skin Africans aren't Africans according to diop and that's based strictly on skin color
3 i didn't ask you to watch it, but if you're going have opinions on it you should at least watch it and again formulate an mature rebuttal.
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Ngozi has called AA's monkeys. I am sure Diop never insulted his white French wife by calling her a cave beast.
Again please give a summary of your presentation 4 hours is prohibitive
If Diop is irrelevant and no one takes him seriously anymore why devote 4 hours to debunk a straw man?
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You been on here for 2 days straight arguing about a book you never read instead of watching 1 hour of the video. I gave you a summary in the thread and the video demonstrates it. The book is almost 400 pages long. And only a little over 2 hours was used discussing the book. Afterwards we discussed his political views and how crazy it is for african Americans to reference his dated work in 2018 because modern science has debunked most of the dated theories from the 19th and 20th century and Diop is no exception.
So you can either watch the video and give an honest feedback, or read the actual book yourself. Again i didn't ask you to watch it. But 3 days have passed and you could've watched at least half by now
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However, it is your comprehension of the conversation that has ensued in this thread that I call into question.
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You read this book several times? I can't tell. This man actually said euphony was the reason for wolof noun classes from the Egyptian demonstrative "pw" but you thought that was ok i guess. Lol....
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You and your team including Ngozi continue to mischaracterize Diop. A friend of mine on Facebook has screencaps Ngozi posting racist things against AA's including calling them monkeys. ( but you are not going to address this since many of his opinions on genetics inform yours)
Many "theories" including ones by Eurocentrics have been proven incorrect given new science. No theory is perfect and neither is Diop however much of what he had to say has salience even today.
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Then for some reason, maybe because you're arguing with yourself, you keep insinuating that i said that diop said that wolof descend from Egyptians. I never said that. After i asked you to show me where i said it you haven't brought it up anymore.
Then for some reason you brought up european history.
Then i go on to explain the different groups in west Africa, i mention nilo saharan and afro Asiatic migrations:
what? the evolution and history of Africa and Europe are not the same... the last wave of Europeans from the Steppe regions invaded Europe and wiped out most of the previous Mesolithic hunter-gatherer populations. The Sahara is a huge barrier obviously. the West africans themselves invaded from the Central forest and subjugated the older archaic human populations and the pygmy's of course. Then you also have the Nilo-Saharans who expanded across the Sahara following the Holocene wet phase. They most likely followed fauna into the Sahara/Sahelian belt. And then of course the later expansion of the Amazigh and Chadic speaking populations. There simply isn't a West African connection the Egyptians.
Then you reply:
"Which West Africans?"
I think your comprehension is off. If I'm referring to these linguistic groups and these people speak these languages and are clustered together then of course thats what west Africans I'm referring to.
And we both read the book and you missed all of those errors in his book that lets me know two or three things.
You either read it and don't understand the subject Or you didn't read it you're appealing to authority
Or possibly your afro- centric bias hampered your critical thinking obviously.
Just say you're not going to review the info, it's ok. Im not going to cry
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I can link you and ngozi and you can voice your disdain for him. He's a grown man so am i. I don't speak for him. He's perfectly capable of answering your questions
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quote:Originally posted by Yatunde Lisa: You and your team including Ngozi continue to mischaracterize Diop. A friend of mine on Facebook has screencaps Ngozi posting racist things against AA's including calling them monkeys. ( but you are not going to address this since many of his opinions on genetics inform yours)
Many "theories" including ones by Eurocentrics have been proven incorrect given new science. No theory is perfect and neither is Diop however much of what he had to say has salience even today.
Why do you keep repeating what I'm saying? I just said modern science has debunked old, dated theories from the previous centuries, diop is included. You basically said the same thing i said. Smh lol
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Again not all West Africans invaded from the Central Forest. That is just incorrect.
Linguistics is highly theoretical Diop was not a professional linguist but he was an African and had the right to theorize just like a colonizer if he wished just like you have the right to do your arm chair analysis. Greenberg, Blench, Ehret have all been found to be wrong about one thing or the other.
I don't read to appeal to authority, I read to expand knowledge and challenge my beliefs. Even things proven wrong are good to still read because there are always nuggets of good info here or there you might not be able to find elsewhere in current orthodoxy. Just read Guissepe Sergi
(1901). The Mediterranean Race: a Study of the Origins of European Peoples
Again, I am not an afrocentric but keep using that as a dirty word it shows your bias or your own unearned self regard.
More school bra you need more school... next time make your vlog more viewer friendly even though I will not be a viewer at least you might get more views than the limited number you have on your channel at this point.
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Did i say ALL West Africans are from central Africa?
To be honest im not an armchair linguist, never claimed to be one however we Diop and countless others that claim to be and never had any classical training in the field. So that argument is null and void.
You like reading incorrect info for the little nuggets in there? I see why you still read Diop.
And i just graduated with a bachelor's in psychology at troy university and im going for a master's with a focus on applied behavioral analysis.
The views will come that's not even a concern.
I like how the last couple of days we've talked about everything besides why diop was right about this book.
The fact you clicked on it still registered as a view from you lmao...
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but when people bounce after 30 seconds it get's your video marked down in google's algorithm
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When YOU BOUNCE after 30 Seconds that tells me that you don't want to know whats wrong with his info. Im pretty sure it takes longer than 4 hours to read a 3 to 400 page book. But im sure you don't ask for the summary of the book and act like you've actually read it. if you bounce cool. And stay gone. Have a nice day
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Nice... When i looked most of those Wolof terms up i either didn't find them anywhere or they don't mean what he says they mean... some were borrowed from Arabic directly or through Puular and quite possibly Amazigh or Chadic.
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Tukuler
multidisciplinary Black Scholar
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No formal or practical knowledge of linguistic methodologies so some terms also seem doubtful to me. But when Diop slept he dreamed in Wolof (which is very close to Pulaar) the language of his family and community. I doubt deliberate underhandedness on Diop's part because his Senegalese readership would instantly detect any bullshit.
No doubt y'all put a lot of work into the critique. Do you or your team speak conversational Wolof? Can your team translate Einstein's theory of relativity into Wolof?
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