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Posted by Habari (Member # 14738) on :
 
Sudan president expected to face war crime charges

By JOHN HEILPRIN – 2 hours ago

UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The prosecutor of the world's first permanent war crimes tribunal will seek an arrest warrant Monday charging Sudan's president with crimes against humanity and genocide in Darfur, a move U.N. diplomats warned could bring a backlash from Sudan's government.

U.N. officials and diplomats said the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court would seek an indictment charging Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir with orchestrating violence in Darfur that has left hundreds of thousands of people dead.

Sudan's government reacted swiftly and angrily.

"If you indict our head of state, the symbol of our country, the symbol of our dignity, then the sky's the limit for our reactions," Sudan's U.N. Ambassador Abdalmahmood Abdalhaleem Mohamed told The Associated Press on Friday.

"We condemn it in the strongest of terms. It will have far-reaching, bad implications for the entire country."

China's U.N. Ambassador Wang Guangya, whose nation is an ally of Sudan, expressed concern that bringing charges against al-Bashir could jeopardize peace talks and put peacekeepers and humanitarian aid workers in Darfur at greater risk.

"It's one of the implications we have to consider," he said.

South Africa's U.N. Ambassador Dumisani Kumalo also cautioned that Darfur's embattled people could be left even less secure. "The debate about the balance between justice, peace and development is a very difficult one," he said.

The court, based in The Hague, Netherlands, said the prosecutor will present evidence of war crimes in Darfur to judges Monday and one or more new suspects would be named. But court officials refused to identify any of the potential new suspects.

U.N. officials and diplomats said they expect lesser charges of helping orchestrate genocide and participating in crimes against humanity to be brought against Sudanese Vice President Ali Osman Mohammed Taha. They spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

A spokesman for Sudan's president dismissed the investigation and said his government refuses to hand over any suspects.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack warned the Sudanese government not to resort to violence.

"Violence perpetrated by the government against those on the ground performing humanitarian missions, performing duties on behalf of their governments ... certainly does not serve the purposes of the Sudanese government," he said.

The court's prosecutor, Luis Moreno-Ocampo of Argentina, has clearly indicated that he is aiming for the top leadership of the Sudanese government, accusing them of sponsoring the janjaweed militias who have unleashed a reign of terror on the country's Darfur region. At least 300,000 people have died since the conflict began in early 2003.

The prosecutor has described the probe as relying on investigators based in neighboring Chad and more than 100 witnesses in 18 countries.

He told the U.N. Security Council in June that "evidence shows that the commission of such crimes on such a scale, over a period of five years, and throughout Darfur, has required the sustained mobilization of the entire Sudanese state apparatus."

An indictment of al-Bashir would mark the first time the International Criminal Court has charged a sitting head of state with war crimes.

But there is precedent: Other U.N.-created international tribunals charged Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic and Liberian President Charles Taylor with war crimes while they were still in office.

Milosevic died in his cell in March 2006, shortly before the end of his genocide trail. Taylor is currently on trial in The Hague for crimes against humanity in Sierra Leone.

The charges could bring reprisals from Sudan's government, which already has made it difficult for international aid workers and U.N.-African Union peacekeepers to do their work.

"If the procedure is going the way it seems it's going to go, of course we have to be aware of the effects it would have on the ground," France's U.N. Ambassador Jean-Maurice Ripert said Friday of the court's expected action.

Threats to the peacekeepers — currently about 9,000 soldiers and police officers — were underscored this week by an ambush that killed seven and wounded 19, one of the deadliest attacks on U.N. forces in recent years.

But some court experts said the benefits outweigh the risks.

"If the prosecutor requests an arrest warrant against the president of Sudan for genocide or crimes against humanity or both, it will a huge step in limiting the impunity for horrific acts committed against innocent people in Darfur," said Richard Dicker, director of the international justice program for Human Rights Watch, a research and advocacy group.

"It would send the message that no one is above the law for these kinds of crimes including a sitting president," he said.

Sudan does not recognize the court's authority and has for months refused to arrest and hand over for trial a government minister and rebel leader charged with atrocities by Moreno-Ocampo last year.

On Friday, a spokesman for the president, Mahjoub Fadul Badry, called the court's prosecutor a "terrorist" whose investigation is based on biased testimony from rebel leaders. Badry said the government would not hand over any suspects, even rebel leaders.

"Moreno-Ocampo's report depends on verbal testimony of rebel leaders and organizations that work under a humanitarian cover but in fact are branches of the intelligence apparatuses of other countries," Badry told The Associated Press.

"In the end, we don't really care what he says."

Associated Press reporters Mike Corder in The Hague, Netherlands and Matthew Lee in Washington contributed to this report.

 
Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
This is apart of the one world government plan. Hague is a kangaroo court created to support the World Police. But that is not even the issue as it is a given white institutions are created to perpetuate white supremacy/system. The real issue is if African leaders allow whites to use the UN to settle scores with those African leaders they dont like (whatever we think of Bashir and Taylor), then the whole concept of African renaissance, the AU etc will be exposed (even further) as a farce.

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Posted by Habari (Member # 14738) on :
 
I'm an African culturally and Northern Sudanese think they are Arab although physically and genetically they look African...that bastard can go to hell, I don't care...He's denying his African ancestry...**** that Arab bastard...they've been fucked once by Southern Sudanese(real Africans) and now they are fucked up by Europeans as expected since Arabs have been fucked up by Europeans for centuries...at least Africans don't have an obvious inferiority complex towards Europeans...the problem with the Arabs is that they don't realize that the only people who are respected in the Middle East are Persians...the rest are mere Jokes killing each other and kneeling in front of Bush and Tony Blair....
 
Posted by Burhan (Member # 11310) on :
 
Hello,

Facts;

1- Bashir is an African
2- Bashir is black
3- Bashir is Arab
4- Northern Sudanese are Black/African /Arabs
5- Being and Arab is not a genetic label, but a cultural/linguistic/political grouping
6- The conflict in Sudan is not about Blacks or Africans versus Blacks/Africans/Arabs.
7- Every “African” is not black and every “Black is not African
8- Your understanding of the root cause in Sudan and many other African countries/ethnicities is next to none and ludicrous
9- You are told to hate Bashir and Northern Sudanese “Arabs” without realizing it.
10- Finally, what gives you the right to place anybody into you "African" pot or "Black" pot and exclude others.


THE CONFLICT IN SUDAN IS ABOUT RESOURCES THAT, BUT OFFCOURSE, INCLUDES LAND AND IT'S WHATEVER HIDDEN TREASURES.

Arab North versus African South or Darfur is the devil's label to find for himself a route to the treasure itself, they care less about these groups and frankly they are all the same to him and in actuality rightly so.....think about it.

DIVIDE AND RULE CONCEPT STILL WORKS, and frankly not only in Africa but also elsewhere....look no further than Iraq.....Arab shia versus Arab Suni...these people can be from the same families now divided and each has to move physically to their grouping side of town/city.


Regards.
 
Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
^ True. Habari is just letting his hatred of the north (however justified) to blind him to the bigger picture.
 
Posted by Alive-(What Box) (Member # 10819) on :
 
Definitely agree with that last paragraph you posted, but about these:

[quote]THE CONFLICT IN SUDAN IS ABOUT RESOURCES THAT, BUT OFFCOURSE, INCLUDES LAND AND IT'S WHATEVER HIDDEN TREASURES.

Arab North versus African South or Darfur is the devil's label to find for himself a route to the treasure itself, they care less about these groups and frankly they are all the same to him and in actuality rightly so.....think about it.
[quote]

^^ on point.
 
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
 
^ The sad part about it is no matter how many Arab ancestors they claim, no matter how Arabic their language or dialect is, no matter how much Arab they dress, how many Arab customs they practiced, and even no matter what their position is in the Arab League, TRUE Arabs will always look down on the Sudanese Arab-wannabes!

Meanwhile those Africans who are not Arab wannabes continue to be brutalized, and violated by those who are. [Roll Eyes]

This is the ultimate problem of Africa as a whole is that too many Africans have been f*cked up politically, economically, but mainly psychologically by foreigners, and the Arab-wannabe nutcases of Sudan are the ultimate example of this.

the poster AMR1 is an example of this, remember how he would rather view him and his people as "mixed" than black. He even goes so fa as to say that not only the ancient Egyptians but even the ancient Nubians were 'mixed' because no 'pure' African can create civilization unless mixed with Asiatics specifically 'Arabs'.

This makes me wonder what the Sudanese government thinks of the remains of its pre-Arab Nubian civilization. Don't be surprised if they want to destroy it because it represents their great black African heritage, the same way they destroy their African brothers and sister! [Eek!]
 
Posted by Heru-Hekennu^*^ (Member # 11484) on :
 
^speak on it.
 
Posted by Habari (Member # 14738) on :
 
The posters above who try to the defend the "Arab" Sudanese have substantial Arab ancestry, so whatever they say I ignore...the goal of the Sudanese Arab regime is to destroy the African culture, they failed miserably in the South and they will in the West.....Arab culture can't destroy the African culture...not on the African soil...
 
Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
I hold no brief for the Sudanese government. But I can see why Dj would bypass other civil wars in Africa, particularly in the Great Lakes region, and single out Black Arabs as ultimate brutalisers. This is what I mean by moles who will swiftly attack criticism of white Jews as bigotry, hateful, anti-Semitic etc yet glibly generalise about black Arabs as a group. And of course you will never see the usual virtuous anti-hate posters jump on him for his remarks about black Arabs as "psychopaths" etc. And never mind this conflict has nothing to do with culture and self hatred but resources, the judeophiles will continue to spout that line. In laying this charge of self hating black Arabs while simultaneously defending white Jews wherever they can, they (rasolowitz)are the real projectors.
 
Posted by Alive-(What Box) (Member # 10819) on :
 
^Actually.

Don't get things twisted, wut Djehuti is reffering to is anti-black/african self-hating racist 'Arabs' who are so, on African soil.

He did generalise though.

But compared to a few backwards, VERY bluntly, very ignorantly, and strongly anti-black posters, (who Dje has corrected [Wink] ) I'll take my chances with tha Dj. [Smile]
 
Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Alive-(What Box):
^Actually.

Don't get things twisted, wut Djehuti is reffering to is anti-black/african self-hating racist 'Arabs' who are so, on African soil.

He did generalise though.

But compared to a few backwards, VERY bluntly, very ignorantly, and strongly anti-black posters, (who Dje has corrected [Wink] ) I'll take my chances with tha Dj. [Smile]

Look, which poster's a**hole you choose to hide in is not the point, fact is DJ does generalise "'Arab' Sudanese are psychopaths who deny their black African identity". My point is if he said the same about white Jews as a group you bet rasolowitz, Captain America Sundiata et al. would jump all over him. The only one twisting/justifying obvious double standards is you.
 
Posted by Yonis2 (Member # 11348) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
^ The sad part about it is no matter how many Arab ancestors they claim, no matter how Arabic their language or dialect is, no matter how much Arab they dress, how many Arab customs they practiced, and even no matter what their position is in the Arab League, TRUE Arabs will always look down on the Sudanese Arab-wannabes!

Meanwhile those Africans who are not Arab wannabes continue to be brutalized, and violated by those who are. [Roll Eyes]

This is the ultimate problem of Africa as a whole is that too many Africans have been f*cked up politically, economically, but mainly psychologically by foreigners, and the Arab-wannabe nutcases of Sudan are the ultimate example of this.

the poster AMR1 is an example of this, remember how he would rather view him and his people as "mixed" than black. He even goes so fa as to say that not only the ancient Egyptians but even the ancient Nubians were 'mixed' because no 'pure' African can create civilization unless mixed with Asiatics specifically 'Arabs'.

This makes me wonder what the Sudanese government thinks of the remains of its pre-Arab Nubian civilization. Don't be surprised if they want to destroy it because it represents their great black African heritage, the same way they destroy their African brothers and sister! [Eek!]

Your post is full of sh1t! You sound like a paternalistic liberal who's teaching the oblivious negro about his true enemy.
 
Posted by Yonis2 (Member # 11348) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Habari:
The posters above who try to the defend the "Arab" Sudanese have substantial Arab ancestry, so whatever they say I ignore...the goal of the Sudanese Arab regime is to destroy the African culture, they failed miserably in the South and they will in the West.....Arab culture can't destroy the African culture...not on the African soil...

The goal of the Sudanese Arab regime is to destroy the African culture???

No wonder the British still control the fertile lands of highland kenya, you kenyan bantus are extremely gullible you get easily impressed by glitter and flash that's why any kind of propaganda is so effective on you.
 
Posted by Heru-Behutet^*^ (Member # 11484) on :
 
^what's your view on the goal of the Sudanese Arab regime?
 
Posted by Yonis2 (Member # 11348) on :
 
To protect it's resources from being exploited by western interests. They have been pissed off on sudan since china got the rights to excavate the oil during the 90's.

You surely don't think that western corporate media gives a sh*t about darfurians, or do you?

Chechnya is in a much worse situation than sudan, the russians slaughter them every day like cattles, how come we never hear about the humnitarian disaster from that place?
Sudans situation is so overhyped that it's become a joke.
 
Posted by argyle104 (Member # 14634) on :
 
This boy is upset at the Northern Sudanese because they don't go along with his race fantasies. You see this jack nasty phillopeeeno thinks that the Northern Sudanese are Negroid, therefore this Asian freak thinks "How dare those niggers say they aren't black, because they definitely look black to me".

Hey Ping Pong Pepe aka (Djehuti),


When Yonis the Somali says that he is not black, you don't get upset. Is it because you don't think Somalis look "negroid", but Northern Sudanese do?


Watch people, the freak won't answer like he always does.
 
Posted by argyle104 (Member # 14634) on :
 
Ping Pong Pepe aka (Djehuti) wrote:

quote:

What the hell do you know about Sudan? Have you ever gotten up off of your dead ass and went? Or do you sit around with your `_` self and go along with whatever your white owners tell you.


You need to take your ass somewhere and do what you filthy phillopeeeno fucks do best:


Find the most disguting ways imaginable to make a meal out of every living creature on the planet.
 
Posted by argyle104 (Member # 14634) on :
 
Does this not seem strange to someone?:

This dirty dumb phillopeeeno:

* has been registerd on this forum since Feb 2005 and has well over 11600 posts.

* has taken the name of an African deity

* talks down to Africans

* most of his early posts resemble that of a teacher condescendingly tell a student whether they are right

"Correct Rasol"
"Correct Supercar"

* believes in the racial inferiority of Africans regardless of ethnicity to non-Africans

* has created a racial hierarchy within Africa itself
 
Posted by argyle104 (Member # 14634) on :
 
What's funny is that you have people dumb enough not to see the formula of how to use humanitarianism to steal African resources.


Dichotomize Africa into poor old helpless negroes and watch the nasty ass liberals fall for it. You see liberals need the "poor old negroe" to make himself feel like he is doing good in the world.


Now these liberals can't stand these "poor old helpless negroes". They believe that they are subhumans, without any kind of culture outside of being perpetually helpless, and without any kind of a history outside of being an indefinite victim since time immemorial.


Like I said before, liberals are racists as hell.


And you know it works on the stupid because the people that believe in all of these lies, believe in the "poor old helpless victimized negroe" stereotype themselves.

The conservatives can't stand them either, consevatives view these people as an opportunity for theft.

Unlike the conservatives the bastard liberals like to dichotomize Africans and African diaspora according to their sick racial hierarchy. Conservatives don't give a damn since with them you're either white/Euro or you're not.
 
Posted by argyle104 (Member # 14634) on :
 
Notice that the people in the East fought against the government of Sudan and the people in the north have had run-ins with the Sudanese government also.


Yet you haven't or will never hear a peep about that.


You know why because its the pathologically sick white obsession with trying to use pseudoscience to define Africans.

You see the people in the East and the North violate the manifesto that "Africans that are discussed or shown on tv have to be true negroes".

They will never, ever show you the people of the East and North.

1. These people make it difficult to caricaturize Africa.

(I don't believe in the caricature, but these nasty wrinkly age 5 times faster than the rest of humanity white folks do. Whites have low self-esteem and need it as a part of their psyche to help them get through their fucked up lives)

2. They (like the rest of Africans) look part and parcel like African Americans. Therefore these people destroy the AAs are mixed lie. And everyone knows how desperate whites are to keep AAs out of their ancestry in North Africa.
 
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by akoben08:

Look, which poster's a**hole you choose to hide in is not the point, fact is DJ does generalise "'Arab' Sudanese are psychopaths who deny their black African identity". My point is if he said the same about white Jews as a group you bet rasolowitz, Captain America Sundiata et al. would jump all over him. The only one twisting/justifying obvious double standards is you.

That's because last time I checked, white Jews are not the ones raping African women, boiling their children alive and killing them. You moron! If you look around white Jews aren't really doing much of anything other than apparenlty making YOUR life miserable in your own twisted imagination.

quote:
Originally posted by Yonis2:

Your post is full of sh1t! You sound like a paternalistic liberal who's teaching the oblivious negro about his true enemy.

How is my post ****?? What I said is true. I don't deny that the Sudanese government is trying to protect its resources from the West or other foreigners but for you to deny their Arab wannabe and anti-African psychosis is definitely a problem!

As for the Gargoyle, I don't respond to lunatic rantings.
 
Posted by argyle104 (Member # 14634) on :
 
You worthless filthy phillopeeeno jungle rat, you better shut your ass up before I go call a japanese person on you.

ha ha ha heeeeeeeeee
 
Posted by argyle104 (Member # 14634) on :
 
Hey Ping Pong Pepe!,


Yonis is a Somali. He considers himself not black.


Is Yonis the Somali a pyschopath?

Are Somalis black?

If not why? Is it because you have your own personal racial classification like Carlton Coon and that Blumenbach guy?


Do you think that the Northern Sudanese are black and the Somalis are not black?


People ask yourself this question?

Why does a nasty phillopeeeno need to create his own racial classification for Africans?
 
Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
quote:
That's because last time I checked, white Jews are not the ones raping African women, boiling their children alive and killing them. You moron! If you look around white Jews aren't really doing much of anything other than apparenlty making YOUR life miserable in your own twisted imagination.
They don't have to be on the ground to bear responsibility for bloodshed and civil wars, you moron! My god how infantile can you get? Who do you think sell arms to third world countries so as to continue western proxy wars for resources? Stop trying to use your simpleton-logic to justify your obvious anti-black closet hatred and double standards for your white jewish masters. Plus I have never heard you refer to Jews as psychopaths for their anti-black racism in Israel against Ethiopian Jews. Admit it Dj you got caught, again, in more of your BS and now you're trying to wiggle your slimy a** out of it.
 
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
 
^ I don't address nuts who still use the old "Jewish conspiracy" that Jews control everything that goes on in the world and therefore Jews are to blame for everything that goes wrong in the world . By your line of thinking I suppose Jews were responsible for you losing your job and therefore come to this forum about EGYPT to quell your psycho obsessision about Jews.
quote:
Originally posted by argyle104:

You worthless filthy phillopeeeno jungle rat, you better shut your ass up before I go call a japanese person on you.

ha ha ha heeeeeeeeee

Oh my. LOL Your racial epithet sounds just as bad as whites who call blacks "jungle bunnies". I suggest you shut up before I call defax on your mother for allowing her boyfriend to rape you every night.
quote:

Hey Ping Pong Pepe!,


Yonis is a Somali. He considers himself not black.

Is Yonis the Somali a pyschopath?

Are Somalis black?

If not why? Is it because you have your own personal racial classification like Carlton Coon and that Blumenbach guy?


Do you think that the Northern Sudanese are black and the Somalis are not black?


People ask yourself this question?

Why does a nasty phillopeeeno need to create his own racial classification for Africans?

You idiot since when have I ever said Somalis were NOT black?! You crazy little sh*t!! Who cares what Yonis does and doesn't consider himself as. He and his people are still black! And YOU are still a psychotic loon who constantly tries to entice me so what you can ride my d*ck?? I think not!
 
Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:

^ I don't address nuts who still use the old "Jewish conspiracy" that Jews control everything that goes on in the world and therefore Jews are to blame for everything that goes wrong in the world .

I noticed you never even tried to refute what I said re white Jewish (and other whites) culpability in African proxy wars. Further proof of your own hatred (now open) for Africans whom you blame exclusively for the conflict in Sudan. I find it strange you say this, "Your racial epithet sounds just as bad as whites who call blacks "jungle bunnies"." yet over looked Ausarianstein’s lunatic racist rants.

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Posted by KING (Member # 9422) on :
 
Man what is going on in this forum. All I see from thread to thread is the same nonsense. Attacks and hate slurs. Why can't people stop with this nonsense and be the bigger man and move on. We don't need this kind of debates on these forums. People move on. All I see is people ganging up on Djehuti and bringing up race remarks. What is any of this supposed to accomplish?

Peace
 
Posted by Heru-Behutet^*^ (Member # 11484) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Yonis2:
To protect it's resources from being exploited by western interests. They have been pissed off on sudan since china got the rights to excavate the oil during the 90's.

You surely don't think that western corporate media gives a sh*t about darfurians, or do you?

Wow. That's interesting. I used to think the West was sponsoring them to basically sh1t on the non-muslim Africans as a routine exercise in "operation divide & conquer Africa".

So much confusion.
 
Posted by argyle104 (Member # 14634) on :
 
King wrote:

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All I see is people ganging up on Djehuti and bringing up race remarks.
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You see people. The liberals and their racial hierarchy.

Look at how this wrinkly oil of olay using white boy runs to the defense of someone he believes ranks higher on his racial hierarchy system.

This is King:

"Bunch of damn Africans attacking this Asian/Pacific Islander!!! I WON'T HAVE IT!!!!"
 
Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by KING:

All I see is people ganging up on Djehuti and bringing up race remarks. What is any of this supposed to accomplish?

Peace [/QB]

Are you telling me you don't see his double standards?
 
Posted by KING (Member # 9422) on :
 
argyle104

All I am saying is that you especially have been racially attacking Djeuhti since he came back on the Forum. You really need to move on.

Also what is this stuff about "racial hierarchy". What have you read from my posts that make it sound like I have a Hierarchy. Please show me.

Peace
 
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by akoben08:

I noticed you never even tried to refute what I said re white Jewish (and other whites) culpability in African proxy wars. Further proof of your own hatred (now open) for Africans whom you blame exclusively for the conflict in Sudan.

Never have I claimed white Jews were innocent of or never involved in anything bad. I even know it was Portuguese Jews who first started the trans-Atlantic slave trafficking from Africa; however white Jews were no worse than white Christians in terms of their actions if fact white Christians have done much worse in world affairs than white Jews. As for the conflict in Sudan, what are you saying that it is white Jews who are committing genocide in Darfur and enslaving peoples from southern Sudan??

quote:
I find it strange you say this, "Your racial epithet sounds just as bad as whites who call blacks "jungle bunnies"." yet over looked Ausarianstein’s lunatic racist rants.
Actually I and others have called out Ausarian's rants many times before, not that it helps much. I can't be held responsible for what he says no more than what you say.

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Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
 
King, you waste your time. These trolls and gargoyles suffer from mental illnesses such as paranoid schizoprenia, low self-esteem, and obssession.

NOTE: Egyptsearch is NOT a mental hospital. These nuts need some serious help.
 
Posted by KING (Member # 9422) on :
 
akoben08

I don't know what double standard you are really talking about. I know you have a problem with Jews but don't see how Djehuti is apart of the problem. All I notice is Argyle104 racially attacking Djeuhti from thread to thread and the slurs flying. What double standard has Djeuhti done to warrant being attacked the way he has been attacked. Really all the hate needs to stop, this forum is better then this.

Peace
 
Posted by Heru-Behutet^*^ (Member # 11484) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by KING:
Man what is going on in this forum. All I see from thread to thread is the same nonsense. Attacks and hate slurs. Why can't people stop with this nonsense and be the bigger man and move on. We don't need this kind of debates on these forums. People move on. All I see is people ganging up on Djehuti and bringing up race remarks. What is any of this supposed to accomplish?

Peace

IT'S CALLED "CRAB BARREL" MISBEHAVIOUR:

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^I AM THE TOP CRAB, I AM BETTER THAN ALL THESE OTHER CRABS, THAT OTHER CRAB IS WRONG, I AM THE RIGHT CRAB, I MUST BRING DOWN THESE TOP VETERAN ES CRABS, I CAN'T STAND THE SUPERIOR INTELLIGENCE OF THESE CRABS, I AM AKOBEN THE BEST CRAB, HOW DARE THOSE YORUBA CRABS BEAT ME AT EVERYTHING? HOW DARE THOSE YORUBA CRABS HAVE MORE MONEY THAN ME? THAT OBAMA CRAB TALKS DOWN ON OTHER CRABS, WHAT KIND OF CRAB DOES HE THINK HE IS? I MUST USE MY CRAB-CLAWS TO BRING DOWN HIS CAMPAIGN, I MUST TALK SH1T ON ES AND IRRITATE AND ANNOY OTHER CRABS, I DON'T CARE AS LONG AS I LOOK BETTER (DELUSION NOTWITHSTANDING) THAN THESE OTHER CRABS, I REFUSE TO CO-OPERATE WITH THESE OTHER CRABS, I AM A JOBLESS CRAB, I AM A WORTHLESS CRAB...
 
Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
quote:
white Christians have done much worse in world affairs than white Jews.
How? Explain.

quote:
As for the conflict in Sudan, what are you saying that it is white Jews who are committing genocide in Darfur and enslaving peoples from southern Sudan??
No, as I have said before the civil war in Sudan is not about self-hatred and "Arab wannabes", but western (of which white Jews are an important financial and political element) proxy wars for resources.

With all that said, lets come back to your double standards for calling black Arabs psychopaths, but attacking as "bigotry" criticisms of white Jews. My god, dude, it's so obvious your agenda.
 
Posted by argyle104 (Member # 14634) on :
 
Ping Pong Pepe wrote:
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As for the conflict in Sudan, what are you saying that it is white Jews who are committing genocide in Darfur and enslaving peoples from southern Sudan??
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You're a damn lie. That garbage has been discredited, especially that slavery in south sudan lie.


Maybe you need your eyes straightened out because all you have to do is a basic internet search: sudan slavery hoax or fraud.


See people this is what I'm talking about. You have people like King and Ping Pong Pepe who have their mindless obsessions with Africans that manifests itself in the insidious form of racial hierarchy and condensation.


You see to them Africans that look a certain way are and never have been anything other than slaves.


Which reveals the true level of there sickness. Because their is documented factual evidence of North Africans and Horn Africans being sold into slavery.


Not to mention all of the documented evidence of Europeans, Japanese, Chinese, Indians, Native Americans, and West Asians being sold into slavery in the last hundred years.


These freaks need the pseudoscience "negroe" to be this helpless victimized slave. It's sick and you would think those Africans on this forum would defend themselves from such a deranged mindset.

Horus, are you listening?


This is why those freaks can't leave Africa and Africans alone. It fits right in with their freakish need to feel like a humanitarian do gooder.
 
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
 
^ LMAO I am not even going to bother to explain basic facts of history past and present as to how Jews are not responsible.

I suggest you do some research of your own or something because I am not going to entertain your neurosis.
 
Posted by argyle104 (Member # 14634) on :
 
Heru-Behutet^*^ aka Horus the Nigerian


How come English is the official language of your country?


LOL LOL LOL
 
Posted by argyle104 (Member # 14634) on :
 
Hey Ping Pong Pepe (Djehuti)!


Shouldn't you be worried about the slavery that the Japanese, Spanish, African Americans, white Americans inflicted on your people?
 
Posted by Heru-Behutet^*^ (Member # 11484) on :
 
^ Is your Mother still giving $5 blow jobs in alley ways in downtown Nashville, TN?

You would think she would have adjusted her rates given the downturn of the dollar.

Soon she won't be able to afford her valtrex prescriptions.
 
Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
^ LMAO I am not even going to bother to explain basic facts of history past and present as to how Jews are not responsible.

I suggest you do some research of your own or something because I am not going to entertain your neurosis.

Yep, as expected. As your arguments and double standards can't be supported you take the standard rasolowitz tactic: run as fast as you can when asked to back up your


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Posted by KING (Member # 9422) on :
 
argyle104

I do not rank anyone African or otherwise. Why do you continue to accuse me of having and Hierarchy. Please post something I have said that seemed to prove you right.

Peace
 
Posted by argyle104 (Member # 14634) on :
 
Heru-Behutet^*^ wrote

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Hey Yoruba!


How's your aggregious fade? Is that why you hacked it off? LOL : )

Is that also the reason why you don't like your own women?

hahahaheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
 
Posted by Heru-Behutet^*^ (Member # 11484) on :
 
YEMAJA... OLOBIRIN LAYE O YEMAJA... ELEGUA JAKUTA... OLOBIRIN LAYE O YEMAJA...
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WHO DO YOU THINK GAVE BIRTH TO THE MUSIC THAT IS THE AMERICAS?
 
Posted by argyle104 (Member # 14634) on :
 
Heru-Behutet^*^ the Yoruba wrote:

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LOL! Folks, talk about beatdown, they don't even have their own language in their own country. : )

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
Posted by argyle104 (Member # 14634) on :
 
Heru-Behutet^*^

your new name is:


<DRUMROLL>


"Fear the Fade"


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHA!!
 
Posted by Sundjata (Member # 13096) on :
 
White Jews are of course directly responsible for the genocide in Darfur. Hell, they're also responsible for conflict in the great Lakes region and slavery in Mauritania. I'd even go out on a limb and say that they are the reason that Akoben's skin is Black and lips are thick. They are the reason why he hates himself. The same is true of Yonis however, such is more attributable to his Arab role models. [Smile]

quote:
Originally posted by Yonis2:
quote:
Originally posted by Habari:
The posters above who try to the defend the "Arab" Sudanese have substantial Arab ancestry, so whatever they say I ignore...the goal of the Sudanese Arab regime is to destroy the African culture, they failed miserably in the South and they will in the West.....Arab culture can't destroy the African culture...not on the African soil...

The goal of the Sudanese Arab regime is to destroy the African culture???

No wonder the British still control the fertile lands of highland kenya, you kenyan bantus are extremely gullible you get easily impressed by glitter and flash that's why any kind of propaganda is so effective on you.

You're mad because Somalia doesn't exist to the rest of the world. Their isolation is likely at the root of most of your anger against Bantu-speakers, etc [though I'm not sure exactly what it is you hate more about them; their language or nose width]. The fact that Arabs weren't able to help you sustain the skills necessary to compete on a global or even continental scale [constantly being outperformed economically, if only moderately by your "Bantu" brethren]. Hence, you hate the very people who are better than you are by any social measure [logically and realistically, there's no way to spin away from that FACT]. Surely you fit right in with *many* Northern Sudanese. Given the means, you'd massacre all proud Africans in light of your extremist Arab bias and isolationist worldview, which is typical of brain washed weirdo Africans who worship Arabs that don't even respect them [ala, their reference to YOU as "abeed"].
 
Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
Oh come now, Captain America, you know the rules. If that is what you think I am saying, first you have to prove that I said they are "directly responsible" for the conflict in Darfur, then prove it is a "genocide". And please don't talk about other blacks not existing Mr Invisible Man you know the history of blacks in America. Youre just upset because your dream of blacks assimilating ("progress') into a country you love just fine has not materialised.
 
Posted by Yonis2 (Member # 11348) on :
 
quote:
Sundjata wrote:
You're mad because Somalia doesn't exist to the rest of the world. Their isolation

Oooh "isolation from the international community", nice to see that you are a member of the "international community", hope your self-esteem has improved since your membership.

quote:
Sundjata wrote:
The fact that Arabs weren't able to help you

"Arabs, Arabs, araabs, those mighty Arabs, almost as mighty as our own "Why-man"
You're just pathetic! eeuff.

Sundiata, i'm still waiting for you to post your pic since you obviously like commenting on other males picture, be a man and post your pic?

Untill then i'll assume you look like this.
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Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
Funny, I always thought of him as this.

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Posted by Sundjata (Member # 13096) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by akoben08:
Oh come now, Captain America, you know the rules. If that is what you think I am saying, first you have to prove that I said they are "directly responsible" for the conflict in Darfur, then prove it is a "genocide". And please don't talk about other blacks not existing Mr Invisible Man you know the history of blacks in America. Youre just upset because your dream of blacks assimilating ("progress') into a country you love just fine has not materialised.

^^LOL @ Adolf Garvey trying to deny a genocide that's taking place on camera and is established by copious amounts of evidence from arms tracking, infiltration/internal intelligence, witness testimony, and the residual effects of the concentration camps. Anyways, according to you though, White Jews are responsible for all or most that ails Blacks, yet at the same time Blacks are stagnant with out personal responsibility. Assuming that this isn't a contradiction or dilemma, these would seem to support your Nazi agenda, which is to exterminate ALL Jews.

As far as "loving my country", it just seems apparent to me that my life (unlike yours) isn't consumed with hate, especially since I'm not oppressed. YOU may be confused, poor, and helpless, but I'm not. Hope that helps. [Smile]
 
Posted by Sundjata (Member # 13096) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Yonis2:
quote:
Sundjata wrote:
You're mad because Somalia doesn't exist to the rest of the world. Their isolation

Oooh "isolation from the international community", nice to see that you are a member of the "international community", hope your self-esteem has improved since your membership.
Hmm? This is clearly a non-sequitur. Anyways, question:

What's Somalia's GDP like? Accordingly to CIA estimates, Oprah alone is worth more than your shitty azz country. [Smile]


https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/so.html

quote:
Originally posted by Yonis2:

quote:
Sundjata wrote:
The fact that Arabs weren't able to help you

"Arabs, Arabs, araabs, those mighty Arabs, almost as mighty as our own "Why-man"
You're just pathetic! eeuff.

Sundiata, i'm still waiting for you to post your pic since you obviously like commenting on other males picture, be a man and post your pic?

Untill then i'll assume you look like this.
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Assume as you wish, but the point is that I've saw your picture and you aren't too far off from Beetle Juice [the guy in the pic], when it comes to conventional looks. The only difference is your degenerate Arab profile. If I hadn't seen you, I'd assume you look like this:

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Posted by Yonis2 (Member # 11348) on :
 
LOL, nice to see that you are posting pics of poor people from Baidoa where the famine happened in the early 90's so to try to get to me. Seems like i've ruffled your feathers real hard [Big Grin]

FYI Gosha and Rahanweyn (people of baidoa) don't even speak Somali but May-may, you just shot yourself on the foot, the Sab ethnicity are outside of the Samaal ethnicity.

Quite amusing that anyone would think they'll get to me through such a pic,

Don't make me lecture you on the reality of you're people in "the land of opportunity" [Roll Eyes] [Wink]
 
Posted by Sundjata (Member # 13096) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Yonis2:
LOL, nice to see that you are posting pics of poor people from Baidoa where the famine happened in the early 90's so to try to get to me. Seems like i've ruffled your feathers real hard [Big Grin]

Please, don't act like this isn't a COMMON occurrence among your kind. As if there isn't famine in Somalia every year.

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I see why you up and ran to Sweden. Of course your first choice for you and your family was Saudi Arabia, but I guess you got tired of them calling you "abeed".


quote:
FYI Gosha and Rahanweyn (people of baidoa) don't even speak Somali but May-may, you just shot yourself on the foot, the Sab ethnicity are outside of the Samaal ethnicity.
LOL, look at this idiot trying to link starvation with language (notwithstanding that your assertion here is based on NOTHING but wishful thinking). Desperate. Anyway, if such is the case [sarcasm], then...

What language did this man speak?

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What about him?

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quote:
Quite amusing
Glad you find the torture and physical/mental agony of your people to be ammusing. [Roll Eyes]

quote:
Don't make me lecture you on the reality of you're people in "the land of opportunity" [Roll Eyes] [Wink]
Be my guest. At the same time, I must have you address why one AA (Oprah) is worth more than your entire country is, confirmed by your GDP.
 
Posted by Sundjata (Member # 13096) on :
 
^^Apparent from the last fact, an African-American can actually BUY Somalia; Somalis can't even buy food.
 
Posted by Yonis2 (Member # 11348) on :
 
quote:
Sundjata wrote:
Please, don't act like this isn't a COMMON occurrence among your kind. As if there isn't famine in Somalia every year.

What do you mean dont act? You think i need to prove anything to a monkey ass like you?

A major famine has happened only once and that was in the city of baidoa during the fightings in southern somalia in the early 1990's(they don't even speak somali), baidoa is a small city in southern somalia and was overhyped by the Bush regime for their invasion disguised as humanitarian help, they ended up killing more people than those who died of famine in the city of baidoa.
Anyways central and northern somalia have never experienced any famine, neither has 80% of southern somalia. I really don't give a **** about southern somalia, catastrophy always happends their.

Also those two people in your post are obviously sudanese nilo-saharans and not the population of baidoa.

Adoons like you have no decency as you've displayed above by mocking people in such condition, no wonder your ancestors were shiped like cargo, treated as cattle in the plantage for 400 years and you are still seen as half-monkeys in "your own" country. eeuff, disgusting.
 
Posted by Yonis2 (Member # 11348) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sundjata:
^^Apparent from the last fact, an African-American can actually BUY Somalia; Somalis can't even buy food.

The GDP of somalia is not known, no fiigures have been collected, it differs from region to region, but the country as a whole is poor yes, and a good reason for that.

Also don't talk about african americans as if they control their own country, they are just consumers living in a system outside their control, they just follow the flow. This is almost as redicoulas as when you triied to compare the whole of west africa historically to the small nomadic country of somalia. You really are pathetic.
 
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
 
Damn! Sundiata pretty much roasted the fools here. Speaking which, Yonis, your true colors apparently showed judging by your several posts above. Tell me, are you calling Sundiata a "monkey ass" as an individual or because he is of an African with broader type features? I'm starting to agree with Sundi, that you obviously have that ridiculous 'Horner' superiority complex going on. Now this is not to insult your people but obviously West Africans especially Nigerians must have something going on as to be the major African group contributing alot to science and industry in the West. Obviously their languages nor the width of their noses have little to do with it.

And I don't care how often you protest to be called 'black'. I have no doubt your white friends in Sweden as with people everywhere else in the world views you as a black man at best and at worst a "monkey" or "n**ger" at worst which is exactly what some whites call your people around where I live. And yes African Americans despite their social and economic hinderances still manage to achieve alot. Oprah is just one example there are many others. And by the way the state where I live especially Atlanta has the wealthiest black people in the nation and probably world. So quite with the hating. [Embarrassed]
 
Posted by Yonis2 (Member # 11348) on :
 
LOl, why should i care about what you or anyone in atlanta thinks? Who the hell are you to categorize me? You still haven't answered why you don't call yourself gook or yellow?
If i'm black then you are one yellow gook [Wink]

Also don't think that just because you are a filipino with an american passport that you suddenly know everything about everyone, "horner superiority" boo bo, just continue defending the opressed black man of america and their heritage and on the same token sling mud on the northern sudanese and everyone else that is currently considered "the bad guys" in your arrogant liberal circles.

I don't know what's worse, an arrogant liberal or an arrogant filipino "white" liberal wannabe?
 
Posted by Yonis2 (Member # 11348) on :
 
quote:
Djehuti wrote:
And by the way the state where I live especially Atlanta has the wealthiest black people in the nation and probably world. So quite with the hating.

Nice, continue clapping them on the head as if they were small children that need a philipino immigrant as a spokes person, i personally would have felt offended if i lived in a country for 400 years and then suddenly comes a boat immigrant who tries to lift me up socially as if i was inherently incapable of doing so myself. [Roll Eyes]

Btw the two richest african derived men in the world are from Sudan and Ethiopia and not Atlanta or America.
 
Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
Wow, Captain America, you're poking fun of starving people now? My god, I know Yonis is an a**hole but why make fun of that? You sick f****g American loving negro. Let me just go down the line quickly and come out of your stinking presence.

1) Genocide and civil are two different things. Learn about the conflict before posting from great sources IMDb (of all places) Mia Farrow!!

2) Never said "White Jews are responsible for all or most that ails Blacks" and we shouldnt take responsibility. You take straw man arguments to new heights you lazy as negro.

3) Please can you talk about a Nazi agenda when you like rest of the judeophiles in here don't know of the history?
 
Posted by Arwa (Member # 11172) on :
 
Yesterday Zimbabwe today Sudan? [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Arwa (Member # 11172) on :
 
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Ten Reasons Why "Save Darfur" is a PR Scam to Justify the Next US Oil and Resource Wars in Africa BAR

7. The backers and founders of the "Save Darfur" movement are the well-connected and well-funded U.S. foreign policy elite.
According to a copyrighted Washington Post story this summer

quote:
"The "Save Darfur (Coalition) was created in 2005 by two groups concerned about genocide in the African country - the American Jewish World Service and the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum...

"The coalition has a staff of 30 with expertise in policy and public relations. Its budget was about $15 million in the most recent fiscal year...

"Save Darfur will not say exactly how much it has spent on its ads, which this week have attempted to shame China, host of the 2008 Olympics, into easing its support for Sudan. But a coalition spokeswoman said the amount is in the millions of dollars."

Though the "Save Darfur" PR campaign employs viral marketing techniques, reaching out to college students, even to black bloggers, it is not a grassroots affair, as were the movement against apartheid and in support of African liberation movements in South Africa, Namibia, Angola and Mozambique a generation ago. Top heavy with evangelical Christians who preach the coming war for the end of the world, and with elements known for their uncritical support of Israeli rejectionism in the Middle East, the Save Darfur movement is clearly an establishment affair, a propaganda campaign that spends millions of dollars each month to manfacture consent for US military intervention in Africa under the cloak of stopping or preventing genocide.

And let's not forget the rebel Sudanese Liberation Movement (SLM) faction of Abd al-Wahid Nur opened an office in Israel---and he is not a welcommed fella among Darfurians.

Also remember that many observers are worry about that the whole region could escalate to wider conflict war-from Eritrea - Ethiopia - Somalia- Djibouti- Ogadan region in Ethiopia- South Sudan (a whole village was burned down few weeks ago in the border between North Sudan and South Sudan)- Uganda and Chad.
 
Posted by Alive-(What Box) (Member # 10819) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sundjata:
White Jews are of course directly responsible for the genocide in Darfur. Hell, they're also responsible for conflict in the great Lakes region and slavery in Mauritania. I'd even go out on a limb and say that they are the reason that Akoben's skin is Black and lips are thick. They are the reason why he hates himself. The same is true of Yonis however, such is more attributable to his Arab role models. [Smile]

quote:
Originally posted by Yonis2:
quote:
Originally posted by Habari:
The posters above who try to the defend the "Arab" Sudanese have substantial Arab ancestry, so whatever they say I ignore...the goal of the Sudanese Arab regime is to destroy the African culture, they failed miserably in the South and they will in the West.....Arab culture can't destroy the African culture...not on the African soil...

The goal of the Sudanese Arab regime is to destroy the African culture???

No wonder the British still control the fertile lands of highland kenya, you kenyan bantus are extremely gullible you get easily impressed by glitter and flash that's why any kind of propaganda is so effective on you.

You're mad because Somalia doesn't exist to the rest of the world. Their isolation is likely at the root of most of your anger against Bantu-speakers, etc [though I'm not sure exactly what it is you hate more about them; their language or nose width]. The fact that Arabs weren't able to help you sustain the skills necessary to compete on a global or even continental scale [constantly being outperformed economically, if only moderately by your "Bantu" brethren]. Hence, you hate the very people who are better than you are by any social measure [logically and realistically, there's no way to spin away from that FACT]. Surely you fit right in with *many* Northern Sudanese. Given the means, you'd massacre all proud Africans in light of your extremist Arab bias and isolationist worldview, which is typical of brain washed weirdo Africans who worship Arabs that don't even respect them [ala, their reference to YOU as "abeed"].
^lol [Big Grin]

Come to think of it, I'm now remembering Yonis's hateful past Bantu and AA rants I had forgotten. What goes around comes around. Sundjata's post was abit more leaniant than what the scum's past posts call for, but hey, they're actually more enjoyable than all the scumbag actually diserves, which is to be ignored (what I now do).

I'm curious though:

quote:
Originally posted by Yonis2:

To protect it's resources from being exploited by western interests. They have been pissed off on sudan since china got the rights to excavate the oil during the 90's.

You surely don't think that western corporate media gives a sh*t about darfurians, or do you?

Chechnya is in a much worse situation than sudan, the russians slaughter them every day like cattles, how come we never hear about the humnitarian disaster from that place?
Sudans situation is so overhyped that it's become a joke.

Nope. Anyone else notice Yonis is so quik and ready to PMS over South African behavior toward Somali immigrants like a little ..... yet you never see it condemn Arab anti-African sentiment, nor corrupt government actions in Sudan on Sudanies in their own country which is on African soil.

quote:
Originally posted by akoben08:
fact is DJ does generalise "'Arab' Sudanese are psychopaths who deny their black African identity". [...] The only one twisting/justifying obvious double standards is you.

Nice edit of the post I was responding to, but let me state here and now that I'm not justifying (or attempting to twist) sh1t. The only one trying to twist anything is you, with your false allegations of double-standards (notwithstanding the true allegation of North Sudan generalizing by one poster).

I'm actually un-twisting.

I do see the repitition of 'psycho Arab anti-black African' as harmful, as it could actually stirr anti black resentment where little exists. Every inch of Northern Sudan doesn't share a mindset, every Arab Sudanese isn't AMR1, every African doesn't need to consider themself black (just as every Asian ... [Wink] ), and AMR1 isn't so vile anymore, all that now remains of his condition is a victom of anti-black anti-African cultural ideology.

Yes, Southern Sudanese victoms have been raped, and some of those raped by the psychofucks, young boys.

But many North African youth (maybe not in Egypt from the little I hear about there) seem to identify with Black Americans .. or maybe at least hip-hop culture (those in Westernized areas) (then again, this is based on my little experience and even East Asian and heck Euro youth have adopted hip hop culture).

The resentment of AAs and other things black seems to come from those individuals heavily into history who have been taught to see their history and themselves as non-African (and hence paranoid reaction and accusation of 'history theft' when AAs clame something was black African).
 
Posted by Habari (Member # 14738) on :
 

Sudan head accused of war crimes
Omar al-Bashir

Sudan says an indictment of Mr Bashir would harm any prospects of peace

Sudan's president has been accused of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes in Darfur by the prosecutor of the International Criminal Court.

Luis Moreno-Ocampo told judges at The Hague that Omar al-Bashir bore criminal responsibility for alleged atrocities committed over the past five years.

The three-judge panel must now decide whether there are reasonable grounds for an arrest warrant to be issued.

Sudan's foreign ministry said it did not recognise the ICC or its decisions.

"This document is certainly politically motivated," Deputy Foreign Minister al-Samani al-Wasila told BBC Arabic TV.

Accusing Mr Moreno-Ocampo of taking sides, the official recalled that he had previously likened Sudan to a Nazi state.


ACCUSATIONS AGAINST BASHIR
Genocide:
Killing members of the Fur, Masalit and Zaghawa ethnic groups
Causing these groups serious bodily or mental harm
Inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about these groups' physical destruction
Crimes against humanity:
Murder
Extermination
Forcible transfer
Rape
Torture
War crimes:
Attacks on civilians in Darfur
Pillaging towns and villages

Bashir move bold but problematic
Noose tightens around Bashir
China's secret war in Sudan

"We shall adopt all measures necessary to ensure the security of our country and people, the head of the state and Sudan's sovereignty," he added.

Sudan has refused to hand over two suspects who Mr Moreno-Ocampo charged last year, Humanitarian Affairs Minister Ahmad Harun and militia leader Ali Kushayb.

It has also labelled Mr Moreno-Ocampo a criminal, and warned that any indictment could stall peace talks and cause mayhem in Sudan.

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said he expected Sudan to "ensure the safety and security of all United Nations personnel and property" there despite the allegations.

The White House urged all parties in Sudan to "remain calm", saying it would "monitor the situation" in The Hague.

US National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe stressed that the US was not part of the ICC.

UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown urged Khartoum to co-operate with the ICC.

Luis Moreno-Ocampo on the accusations

There was no immediate formal reaction from Russia or from China, which is Sudan's biggest arms supplier.

Some 300,000 people have died as a result of the conflict in Darfur since 2003 while more than two million people have fled their homes, the UN estimates.

Sudan's government denies mobilising Arab Janjaweed militias to attack black African civilians in Darfur since rebels took up arms in 2003.

'Absolute control'

Mr Moreno-Ocampo's report found "reasonable grounds" for believing Mr Bashir bore criminal responsibility on 10 counts of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes.

He had allegedly "masterminded and implemented a plan to destroy in substantial part the Fur, Masalit and Zaghawa groups, on account of their ethnicity" after they rebelled.


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Profile: Sudan's Omar al-Bashir
Q&A: Sudan's Darfur conflict

"His motives were largely political," Mr Moreno-Ocampo said.

"His alibi was a 'counterinsurgency'. His intent was genocide."

Pro-government militias allegedly followed Mr Bashir's orders to attack and destroy villages from the three groups, pursuing survivors into the desert.

Those who reached camps for displaced people faced further violence, Mr Moreno-Ocampo alleged:

"In the camps Bashir's forces kill the men and rape the women. I don't have the luxury to look away. I have evidence."

Mr Moreno-Ocampo accused the Sudanese president of using his "absolute control" of the state apparatus to conceal the truth and protect his subordinates "in order to secure their willingness to commit genocide".

HAVE YOUR SAY

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Send us your comments

The UN has already raised the security alert level for its staff in Darfur. The joint United Nations-African Union Mission in Darfur (Unamid), which has 9,000 troops, has been struggling to contain the violence.

The ICC was set up in 2002 as the world's first permanent war crimes court.

Other international courts have previously indicted Serbia's President Slobodan Milosevic and President Charles Taylor of Liberia.

 
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Yonis2:

LOl, why should i care about what you or anyone in atlanta thinks? Who the hell are you to categorize me? You still haven't answered why you don't call yourself gook or yellow?
If i'm black then you are one yellow gook [Wink]

Such idiotic questions. "Gook" is a racist slur or epithet. Why would I consider myself a negative epithet. As for "yellow" that is reserved for lighter skin Asians which I'm not, and even light skinned Asians don't usually call themselves 'yellow' because of how silly sounding it is and because of past racist connotations attached to the word...

Speaking of which, the label 'black' also had negative connotations but blacks here in America and the diaspora were able to rid it of such and reclaim it for the positive value it once had. So the question is why do YOU take offense by the word 'black'?

quote:
Also don't think that just because you are a filipino with an american passport that you suddenly know everything about everyone, "horner superiority" boo bo, just continue defending the opressed black man of america and their heritage and on the same token sling mud on the northern sudanese and everyone else that is currently considered "the bad guys" in your arrogant liberal circles.
You are mistaken. I am an American citizen born in America you dilweed. You are just mad because I called you out on your ridiculous prejudice. You may want to seperate yourself from 'Bantus' and other blacks with similar features but I doubt your white Swedish friends care to differentiate and especially not Americans and other whites who went to Somalia!

quote:
I don't know what's worse, an arrogant liberal or an arrogant filipino "white" liberal wannabe?
LMAO Don't insult me! I am NOT a liberal. That's what YOU and your Swedish friends are.
quote:
Nice, continue clapping them on the head as if they were small children that need a philipino immigrant as a spokes person, i personally would have felt offended if i lived in a country for 400 years and then suddenly comes a boat immigrant who tries to lift me up socially as if i was inherently incapable of doing so myself. [Roll Eyes]
LOL What makes you think I serve as a "spokeman" for African Americans let alone try to "lift" them up?!! LOL Apparently you missed my whole point that AAs are doing quite fine and don't need anyone to help them. Too bad I can't say the same for say Somalis. And again I was born in this country, you are the last person to be talking about getting off a boat. I bet you were one of those Somali refugees getting off those tugboats into Italy huh? Perhaps the Italians didn't take too kindly to you and your people which is why you then took a bus to Sweden (?)

quote:
Btw the two richest african derived men in the world are from Sudan and Ethiopia and not Atlanta or America.
Correction the two richest people of African descent in the world is Oprah Winfrey who was number 1 for several years but is now 2nd to Aliko Dangote-- a NIGERIAN!

Stop with the East African supremacy crap.

Perhaps you need to quit taking that Swedish extasy or quit chewing that khat, either one!
 
Posted by Yonis2 (Member # 11348) on :
 
quote:
Djehuti wrote:
Such idiotic questions. "Gook" is a racist slur or epithet. Why would I consider myself a negative epithet. As for "yellow" that is reserved for lighter skin Asians which I'm not, and even light skinned Asians don't usually call themselves 'yellow' because of how silly sounding it is and because of past racist connotations attached to the word...

Speaking of which, the label 'black' also had negative connotations but blacks here in America and the diaspora were able to rid it of such and reclaim it for the positive value it once had. So the question is why do YOU take offense by the word 'black'?

So you "chose" not to call yourself "yellow" because you are darker skinned than asians of the north, but who is yellow in reality or "black" or "white"? Aren't these just symbolic terms? Seems to me that you think you are above these type of classifications but you obviously don't hesitate telling others what they should call themselves. Do you even sense your arrogance, or you assume everyone has ghetto mentality?

quote:
You are mistaken. I am an American citizen born in America you dilweed. You are just mad because I called you out on your ridiculous prejudice. You may want to seperate yourself from 'Bantus' and other blacks with similar features but I doubt your white Swedish friends care to differentiate and especially not Americans and other whites who went to Somalia
Swedes and Americans don't define me, that's one of the many things that seperates me from abused and victim negroes like Sundiata. I don't adjust myself according to swedes or americans opinion.

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Correction the two richest people of African descent in the world is Oprah Winfrey who was number 1 for several years but is now 2nd to Aliko Dangote-- a NIGERIAN!

Stop with the East African supremacy crap.

Perhaps you need to quit taking that Swedish extasy or quit chewing that khat, either one!

Incorrect, i know Oprah is suppose to be the greatest achievers out of all african-americans who live in the worlds riichest country, but no need to strech it.
I think the two individuals from ethiopia and Sudan i mentioned are both 6 times and 9 times more wealthy.

Just Google Mo ibrahim (sudanese) who's Net worth is 5$ billion and Mohammed al amoudi(Ethiopian/yemeni) Net worth $9 billion. Oprah net worth is what? $1 billion.
And she's like one out of 40 million AA's, who also live in the richest country in the world. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Alive-(What Box) (Member # 10819) on :
 
quote:
Originally sobbed by akoben08:

In laying this charge of self hating black Arabs while simultaneously defending white Jews wherever they acan, they (rasolowitz)are the real projectors.

First, you're feelings are so hurt that someone [rasol] might have been referring to you when using the term 'new breed puppy poster' that you followed them around bleeding from thread to thread, then you call them Jewish.

Fitting, and interesting, that the one who intimidates you gets called Jew.


quote:
Originally posted by rasol:

^ Your rabid anti-semiticism accomplishes nothing other than to render you silly and impotent.

And since I'm not Jewish, it doesn't accomplish the intended goal of baiting or irritating.

It reads as: "You're a desparate bigot, who emotes hate as a substitute for and inability to think".

You see phantom Jews everywhere and behind everything, don't you?

Boo!!! A jew!!!! So run away, you silly child.

lol.

quote:
Originally posted by akoben08:
quote:
Indeed, *Black* as and ethnonym is of African origin......
http://www.geocities.com/wally_mo/Kemet.html


Too bad you can't cut and paste supporting re the label Semitic and white Jews
quote:
Originally posted by rasol:
^ Not caring, why would we do that? Clearly you don't want to face the fact, that no one cares about your anti-semitic hate-obsessions but you.

Your hate-rants against white Jews, just makes you appear to be a coward.

You while away your days whining to Blacks about how much you hate the white Jew, getting little more than a bored eyeroll by way of response, since your hate is so transparently fake. [empty, pointless, bitter, meaningless, useless]

Do you deny this?

Then tell us, what do you do when see the hated 'white Jew'?

You don't do anything. You don't say anything. You cower in fear like a loser, saving up your hate, and then venting it on Egyptsearch amongst Blacks [mostly] who don't care.


Do you have *any idea* of what a looooossssser you are?

So basically, going by this example, if I were to call you and eight other people jews, and acuse you all of running puppet accounts, and ranted about Jews in 95%+ about Jews on the forum in threads where they are not even the subject, and you called me a crazy Xenophobe on the count that you aren't even Jewish than I .. get to call you .. Jewish?

Then again, you'd never call me a bigot for calling you a medalling Jew .. you'd attempt comraderie.
 
Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
Look, if my accusations are "false" simply show where you or rasolowitz called Dj "anti-Semitic", "anti-Muslim" or a bigot for what he said? If not shut, the f*** up.

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So basically, going by this example, if I were to call you and eight other people jews, and acuse you all of running puppet accounts, and you called me a crazy Xenophobe on the count that you aren't Jewish than I .. get to call you .. racist?

WTF?!?!?!? You make no god damn sense as usual.
 
Posted by Yonis2 (Member # 11348) on :
 
quote:
WTF?!?!?!? You make no god damn sense as usual.
He never makes any sense, ever. That's why i ignore his posts, he sounds like a homeless butler mumbling to himself at a dark alley corner.
 
Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
Captain Sundiata, you want blacks to assimilate into a nation you love just fine, yet this is how they see you.
My god, if this is the case in "post racist", multi-cultural America, how will your assimilationist dream come true?
 
Posted by Alive-(What Box) (Member # 10819) on :
 
akoben distorts, as usual, and Beetle Juice Bonds predictably parading behind something he perceives to be an insult to me .. [Big Grin] I'm flattered, how weak .. and I was actually beginning to read his posts again.

quote:
Originally posted by rasol:
quote:
Originally posted by akoben08:

You artful dodging judeophile

The only dodging here is the dodging you do, when you see "white jews" everywhere and then run away.

Then you cry about it on Egyptsearch, like a little.....

Keep running, pitiful loser.

It's not like you will ever stand up for anything, or accomplish anything in your miserable wasted life... But that's ok, you can blame the big mean scary 'white jew' for that too.

It's the Jew. Booo hoooo. [Big Grin]

LOL [Big Grin]
 
Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
My god, you dig up old judeophile rasolowitz post to bring up "artful dodging" yet you fail to do this, "show where you or rasolowitz called Dj "anti-Semitic", "anti-Muslim" or a bigot for what he said? If not shut, the f*** up."

[Eek!]
 
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
 
^ Pray tell where have I said ANYTHING anti-Semitic or anti-Muslim??!

Are you referring to the fact that psycho northern Sudanese are killing their non-Arabized brother and sisters??! It's true, but how is this anti-semitic or anti-Muslim??

If you think this you are definitely as psycho as the northern pseudo-Arabs of Sudan!

Rasol is a black South African, yet you keep calling him a yiddish, white Jewish name. Why is that?

Is it because he exposed you for the idiot you are?? No offense but it doesn't take a white Jew to do that. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Alive-(What Box) (Member # 10819) on :
 
Correction: ^The Sudanese government.

I thought you used to make the distinction between Arab and Arab-ized.

You still make this distinction right?
 
Posted by Yonis2 (Member # 11348) on :
 
quote:
Djehutii wrote:
If you think this you are definitely as psycho as the northern pseudo-Arabs of Sudan!

What makes northern sudanese pseudo-arabs??
Northern sudanese have arabic as their main language, which would make them arabs? Or maybe you don't like that african people speak arabic? Are lybians, Tunisians and Algerians also pseudo-arabs? What about you are you pseudo-american?
 
Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
^ Pray tell where have I said ANYTHING anti-Semitic or anti-Muslim??!

Are you referring to the fact that psycho northern Sudanese are killing their non-Arabized brother and sisters??! It's true, but how is this anti-semitic or anti-Muslim??

If you think this you are definitely as psycho as the northern pseudo-Arabs of Sudan!

Rasol is a black South African, yet you keep calling him a yiddish, white Jewish name. Why is that?

Is it because he exposed you for the idiot you are?? No offense but it doesn't take a white Jew to do that. [Roll Eyes]

Look here boy, I don't use those emotive words that mean nothing expect an obvious inability to look at the facts (or lack thereof) of what posters say. I will say however you have an obvious bias towards white Jews since you will gleefully brand black Arabs as psychos while any criticism of Jews draws sharp rebuke from you, and rasolowitz. And my calling him out for the judeophile that he is goes back to here, jumping into a deabte to save Jews. So please, the only idiot exposed was him.
 
Posted by Wolofi (Member # 14892) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Yonis2:
quote:
WTF?!?!?!? You make no god damn sense as usual.
He never makes any sense, ever. That's why i ignore his posts, he sounds like a homeless butler mumbling to himself at a dark alley corner.
LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by argyle104 (Member # 14634) on :
 

 
Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
America has no problem with a court, it doesn't even recognise, charging an African head of state. Yet with all the obvious double standards and intrigue, slave negro agents will continue to talk about "genocide" and "Arabization" as the cause of this current conflict.

"The United States is also reluctant to take steps that lend legitimacy to the ICC, whose jurisdiction it has questioned. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Monday that recognition of atrocities in Darfur was "a positive thing" but he stressed the U.S. was "not part of the ICC," AP reported. The Bush administration refused to join the ICC due to fears that American servicemen overseas could face politically motivated prosecutions." [CNN]
 
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Alive-(What Box):

Correction: ^The Sudanese government.

I thought you used to make the distinction between Arab and Arab-ized.

You still make this distinction right?

Of course! But in the case of Sudan, the Arabized Africans are the psychotic Arab-wannabe pseudo-Arabs.

Even our resident Jew-hating presumably 'Arab' troll hates the fact that murder and mayhem being committed in Sudan agains fellow Muslims are not being done by any white Jews but by black Africans who think they are Arabs due to brainwashed Arabism.

He then has the nerve to call me anti-Semitic or anti-Arab! How?! LOL
 
Posted by akoben08 (Member # 15244) on :
 
Catherine, the only reason you talk about "Arab wannabes", "brainwashed Arabism", "psychos" etc etc, is to hide the fact that you have no clue as to the reasons for the present conflict. In your ignorance you spew emotionalism and American NGO rhetoric/propaganda.

But please Catherine, Mike is still waiting for you to answer him, and while you're at it show where I call you anti-Semitic.
 
Posted by Habari (Member # 14738) on :
 
Catherine? Akobe, Are you confused sexually? Next you are going to accuse me of defaming the Arabs...
 


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