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Posted by TruthAndRights (Member # 17346) on :
 
Greetings.
I have noticed that some people are citing Wickipedia as a research tool ....people should NOT be citing Wickipedia as any kind of REAL research resource in reasonings and/or debates, cites given from Wickipedia should be dismissed as subjective because it IS subjective (for the most part) and should not be looked upon as completely valid and objective information...

See here:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Appeal2/en?utm_source=2009_Jimmy_Appeal9&utm_medium=sitenotice&utm_campaign=fundraiser2009&target=Appeal2

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And that sums it up. Real objective research material my backside.

I will respectfully and humbly say that should I enter into any reasonings and/or debates with ones here- particularly this one I read called Recovering Afrosomethingorother and a next one (whose name escapes me) that I've noticed- if you cite anything from wickipedia to me as a source, it won't be taken with a bit of credibility and with only a grain of salt IF THAT: you will have to come MUCH BETTER than some Wickipedia, you will either need to have real KNOWLEDGE or do some REAL research.

htp
 

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Posted by astenb (Member # 14524) on :
 
I dont think people cite Wikipedia as FACT. At least I hope not. I dont think its that negative to post links to wiki, I would hope that the person following the link would then look at the REFERENCES at the bottom of the wiki page. This is the key, Wikipedia links reference most of the supporting evidence at the bottom of the page. Its nicely put in one spot.


Can you site examples?
 

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Posted by TruthAndRights (Member # 17346) on :
 
Thank you for your response.

Honestly speaking, from I see a wickipedia cite, I don't even go to the link- it all becomes pretty much irrelevent to me and immediately dismissed. Maybe those who cite wickipedia need to follow those references, read/study them, and provide those cites instead....but hey, to each their own....anyway, my thought still stands because the FACT remains that it is NOT an OBJECTIVE research tool....key word: objective

Do you mean examples of ones here on these forums? Well, just go into almost any thread and you will see...

htp
 

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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
TruthAndRights - Like anything else, Wiki has a use, just don't try to use it for more than it's worth.

It CANNOT be used as an authoritative source, ESPECIALLY on racial issues. Because as you have no doubt noticed, every single racist White-boy in the world, has found a home at Wiki.

BUT, on all other things, it will generally give you a fairly good STARTING point to find your answer.
 

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Posted by TruthAndRights (Member # 17346) on :
 

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Originally posted by Mike111:
TruthAndRights - Like anything else, Wiki has a use, just don't try to use it for more than it's worth.

It CANNOT be used as an authoritative source, ESPECIALLY on racial issues. Because as you have no doubt noticed, every single racist White-boy in the world, has found a home at Wiki .

BUT, on all other things, it will generally give you a fairly good STARTING point to find your answer.

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GOD knows....

Give thanks for your input.

htp
 

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Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
 
TruthAndRights,this how I use Wiki..Because I read alot and if I know exactly what I am after I'll just go to wiki rather than copy directly from my books makes life easier..lets say for example you are looking for the chanson of Roland
about his take on the Moors of his time,I have the books or books I know what the Chanson of Roland supposed to say but it's too long to just copy from the book wiki would be fine..but like Mike said if it comes to controversial issues..like say what did the ancient Kemetians looked like, then everybody and their mother has an opinion.
 

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Posted by alTakruri (Member # 10195) on :
 
Lord knows we need more opinions from mothers!

Ladies, where you at? We need you, got no balance w/o u.
 

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Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
 
Altakruri

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Ladies, where you at? We need you, got no balance w/o u.

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Yep ladies where u at...Betty Boo Boo don't count...
 

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Posted by TruthAndRights (Member # 17346) on :
 

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Originally posted by alTakruri:
Lord knows we need more opinions from mothers!

Ladies, where you at? Ladies, where you at We need you, got no balance w/o u.

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Good morning.

Right here is one...


htp
 

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Posted by TruthAndRights (Member # 17346) on :
 
I just had to resurrect this thread, because I see wicki cites being flung around like it's factual authority....If ANYONE reading an article from Wikipedia takes it as an "AUTHORITY," then, SHAME ON THEM!

I would hope and think that some people would do further reading and research....

htp
 

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Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
 
Wikipedia articles are based on secondary and tertiary sources. Since this forum is not a formal academic medium, I see nothing wrong w/ citing wiki. Unless the information in the article is proven to be inaccurate then the information is as valid as any authoritative source.

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Originally posted by TruthAndRights:
I just had to resurrect this thread, because I see wicki cites being flung around like it's factual authority....If ANYONE reading an article from Wikipedia takes it as an "AUTHORITY," then, SHAME ON THEM!

I would hope and think that some people would do further reading and research....

htp

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Wikipedia articles are based on secondary and tertiary sources. Since this forum is not a formal academic medium, I see nothing wrong w/ citing wiki. Unless the information in the article is proven to be inaccurate then the information is as valid as any authoritative source.

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