And guess again, who is advocating for? Yes, Oprah et al. BTW, have they ever wondered maybe all the good men they are looking for are in prinson?
Just thinking Posted by Arwa (Member # 11172) on :
I LOVE THIS coomment. Yes, The Washing Post urges genocide!
quote: panafrica wrote: 2/27/2010 12:20:07 AM
With each passing day interracial promotion and propaganda continues to become more aggressive as well as more common place. Here we have single black women being urged to date outside their race. Similar topics can be found in the UK and other parts of Europe. Even as far as Russia the difficulty of black women to find a "good black man" has become a popular topic.
That this article is nothing more than racist and genocidal propaganda should not be subject to much debate: If people have the freedom to date who they wish, then why do black women have to be "urged" or "pushed" to date outside of their race? Particularly when no other women are being encouraged to do the same?
Logical people should ask themselves who is really pushing for this trend and what is their ultimate goal? Who benefits from this promotion? How does every random black woman (or black man) involved with a white person get to tell their story of true "interracial" love, when happy black couples aren't afforded the same opportunity? I would be more than willing to tell my story. It would go something like this:
A college educated black man meets a college educated black woman, who is visiting America for the 1st time on vacation. The two strike up a conversation: The black man is intoxicated by the black woman's beautiful smile...her sweetness and genuine warmth. The black woman is impressed by the black man's intelligence and kindness towards her. Within 6 months the two are dating. Within a year the two are married (a marriage which has lasted 10 years, produced 2 children, and 0 drama).
Again I wonder why isn't this story given a 4 page article in the Washington Times or any other media vehicle? Probably because this tale would expose holes in the IR propaganda machine. Especially damaging would be the revelation that the black woman in this case was born and raised in Europe with nothing but white men for dating prospects. However she managed to come to America and found a suitable black man on her very 1st day in the country (so much for the myth that a good black man is hard to find).
It could be argued that maybe the couple in this story are not important enough to write about. However the reality is the woman in the story happens to occupy an important international relations position. One which frequently has her featured in newspapers, magazines, and TV. Yet none of the journalist who write about her are interested in her family life...at least not when they find out she is married to a black man, and not the European which they initially assume she's with.
Apparently black men and women loving each other just doesn't make for an interesting story. However black men and women loving each other is essential to our continued prosperity as a community as well as our survival as a people. Those who appreciate black men and women loving each other have a responsibility to promote and celebrate black love just as aggressively as interracial bliss is being promoted.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
Well someone had better inform Oprah that black women are the least desired women on the face of the planet. If we cannot reliably adduce that there is a causal relationship between black women as the least desired female and having the highest rate of being single, then we can at least infer that a contigency exists between those variables.
I highly doubt that if single black women begin to date outside their race the statistics will change. It is the fact of undesirability that is the issue, not the lack of available black men.
Posted by Arwa (Member # 11172) on :
No wonder these poor Black sisters are missed up. I really pitty them. And the main cause for this is the media. Ishmael Reed:
I Believe you love who you love regardless of race.
BUT
I believe that the most beautiful love is between Black women and Men. They were the first Kings and Queens and the love they have for each other, has lasted through slavery and civil rights. What the News Media is trying to do is break this union so they can have an excuse to hate on the Black male. Urging Black Women to date outside there race is a tatic used to seperate what has been together since ancient times.
News media need to respect the attachment that links African Men and Women together. There love survived Colonialism, Rape, Mass Murder, Slavery, and Self Hate. Let Black love blossom.
Peace
Posted by MelaninKing (Member # 17444) on :
Well arwa, following everything we've seen over the years, I doubt you are surprised. Look at all the white folks caught trying to steal children from Haiti and Africa. The scheme to imprison as many black men as possible is also a part of this play. It not only makes money using these black men as slaves for Wall Street, but it ensures that many other negative manifestations occur. Such as;
1. An increase in homosexuality in black men and women 2. Black children raised by women who don't know how to raise MEN. 3. Black men raised by women taking on the emulation of their mother. So, we now see black youth wearing ear rings, spending 2 hours looking in a mirror, owning 200 pair of shoes, etc. 4. The greater the homosexual number, the less effective socially radical black rights movements. 5. These homosexuals will campaign harder for gay rights, which is a Jewish agenda, and not at all for black rights. See Oprah.
Whites have been kidnapping children and brain washing them to their satanic value system since they first came to America and used the technique on Native Americans. They would go into Native American villages, steal all their children, indoctrinate them before returning them 5-10 years later. Once returned, their parents stated these brainwashed children were as bad or worst than whites themselves.
Blacks need to extract themselves from this trick bag before the majority of black men are like our Egmond, misdirected and ineffective.
Posted by Arwa (Member # 11172) on :
Be honest all. When was the last time you saw a Black man portrayed not demonizing? Has anyone of you saw one of Tyler Perry's films? I live in Denmark, and the other day, to my surprise, my TV showed one of his film (late at night, thank good for that!!), and I could not barely watch 10 min. The opning scene was an abusive Black fiance, who beat his woman, when ever she disappointed him. THAT WAS the opening scene! As I said before, I pitty the Black sisters in America. But it also effects us here in Europe.
The Black organizations(if there are any left!) in America should talk about the demonization of Black men in the media. That should be their first concern!! The genocide of Black men has not ended since colonialism and slavery.
If I had a boy, I WOULD NEVER RAISE HIM in the West, after what happened to both my brothers. It is much harder (1000x!) to grow up in the west if you are Black Male than a Black Woman, and I speak from experience.
My advice to all is raise your children well (take time and engage with them, raise them in your own community), teach them their history, religion, educate them the family value, and your own value, and if you can't control the media propaganda, dump the TV.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
Art imitates life buddy. Movies are a reflection of our society. The problem is not in the depiction of black men. The problem is the behavior exhibited by black men.
You seem more worried by how Black men are portrayed in make-believe realities as oppose to how Black men conduct themselves in reality. Your priorities are messed up buddy.
quote:Originally posted by Arwa: Be honest all. When was the last time you saw a Black man portrayed not demonizing? Has anyone of you saw one of Tyler Perry's films? I live in Denmark, and the other day, to my surprise, my TV showed one of his film (late at night, thank good for that!!), and I could not barely watch 10 min. The opning scene was an abusive Black fiance, who beat his woman, when ever she disappointed him. THAT WAS the opening scene! As I said before, I pitty the Black sisters in America. But it also effects us here in Europe.
The Black organizations(if there are any left!) in America should talk about the demonizing of Black men in the media. That should be their first concern!! The genocide of Black men has not ended since colonialism and slavery.
If I had a boy, I WOULD NEVER RAISE HIM in the West, after what happened to both my brothers. It is much harder (1000x!) to grow up in the west if you are Black Male than a Black Woman, and I speak from experience.
My advice to all is raise your children well (take time and engage with them, raise them in your own community), teach them their history, religion, educate them the family value, and your own value, and if you can't control the media propaganda, dump the TV.
Posted by Arwa (Member # 11172) on :
Too late mom Sidibe. The damage your daughter done is non-repairable.
quote: Alice Tan Ridley says people don't understand that though she's a subway performer, her daughter Gabourey Sidibe wasn't raised like Precious, explaining, "We're not homeless, we're not beggars, and we're not under drug influence."
Posted by MelaninKing (Member # 17444) on :
quote:Originally posted by Arwa: Be honest all. When was the last time you saw a Black man portrayed not demonizing? Has anyone of you saw one of Tyler Perry's films? I live in Denmark, and the other day, to my surprise, my TV showed one of his film (late at night, thank good for that!!), and I could not barely watch 10 min. The opning scene was an abusive Black fiance, who beat his woman, when ever she disappointed him. THAT WAS the opening scene! As I said before, I pitty the Black sisters in America. But it also effects us here in Europe.
The Black organizations(if there are any left!) in America should talk about the demonization of Black men in the media. That should be their first concern!! The genocide of Black men has not ended since colonialism and slavery.
If I had a boy, I WOULD NEVER RAISE HIM in the West, after what happened to both my brothers. It is much harder (1000x!) to grow up in the west if you are Black Male than a Black Woman, and I speak from experience.
My advice to all is raise your children well (take time and engage with them, raise them in your own community), teach them their history, religion, educate them the family value, and your own value, and if you can't control the media propaganda, dump the TV.
Arwa, that's a great example of my point above, and how black men are "de-balled" to do Jewish bidding. Tyler Perry is a homosexual and look at the buffoonary crap he puts out. Spike Lee commented on the anti-black of Perry's crap, and he is absolutely right. T.D. Jakes is a homosexual and he took money from Bush and had his whole church cast their votes Republican. Homosexuality merely distracts from what is really required and moves resources from the black camp over to the WHite/Jewish camp since they then share the same value system.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^^ I hope that the Red pork sodomite Afroholic is taking note... Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
This is very disturbing, especially since statistical data has shown that African American women are the LEAST likely to date/marry outside their race, not because they are the "least desired" but because they have the "strongest preference" for same race relationships, more than any of the others in the survey, which included Asian, White, and Hispanic.
Now there is propaganda to try to "encourage" them to do so. I can't believe Oprah is advocating for this. Granted, if they so happen to fall in love with a White man by chance, then let it be, but actually changing their "preference" is a detriment to our society. Sorry if I sound prejudiced, but there's nothing wrong with having a "preference" for your own ethnic group, you'd probably have more in common, than not.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing: Arwa, that's a great example of my point above, and how black men are "de-balled" to do Jewish bidding. Tyler Perry is a homosexual and look at the buffoonary crap he puts out. Spike Lee commented on the anti-black of Perry's crap, and he is absolutely right. T.D. Jakes is a homosexual and he took money from Bush and had his whole church cast their votes Republican. Homosexuality merely distracts from what is really required and moves resources from the black camp over to the WHite/Jewish camp since they then share the same value system.
Now I've always suspected Tyler of being gay, or at minimum bi-sexual, but T.D. Jakes? This is news for me.
The ATL probably has the highest population of Black gay men in the country, and conversely the highest population of single black females, but I have yet to see a huge trend of interracial dating, as I have noticed on a visit to London, where Black females tend to date/marry white men in higher volumes.
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by homeylu:
quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing: Arwa, that's a great example of my point above, and how black men are "de-balled" to do Jewish bidding. Tyler Perry is a homosexual and look at the buffoonary crap he puts out. Spike Lee commented on the anti-black of Perry's crap, and he is absolutely right. T.D. Jakes is a homosexual and he took money from Bush and had his whole church cast their votes Republican. Homosexuality merely distracts from what is really required and moves resources from the black camp over to the WHite/Jewish camp since they then share the same value system.
Now I've always suspected Tyler of being gay, or at minimum bi-sexual, but T.D. Jakes? This is news for me.
The ATL probably has the highest population of Black gay men in the country, and conversely the highest population of single black females, but I have yet to see a huge trend of interracial dating, as I have noticed on a visit to London, where Black females tend to date/marry white men in higher volumes.
Tyler Perry always puts out some homosexuality in his movies so no doubt he is is gay but T.D Jakes?? I understand tht the dude is a Sunday Pimp but a Fag.?? LMAO.... SAD!!
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
"the dude?" i thought you were an adult Jari?
Posted by MelaninKing (Member # 17444) on :
^ This is true in Africa (South Africa) also, and other regions where British influence reigns. Perhaps it's because the British and Europeans are more civilised than their American counterparts, and able to conceal there true agenda better. Also, black (men & women) intermarry with no real comprehension of the larger short and long term social ramifications of their selection.
Washington D.C. used to be like ATL, due to a disproportionately high population of black men being incarcerated. This left an unbalanced ratio of available black women to black men in D.C. of 3:1. Of course these women would then become concerned about not being able to find a good mate and perhaps look toward other alternatives.
Of course, Jews and Whites completely understand the negative effects of incarcerating a large population group due to their being subjected to the exact same thing in England prior to their invasion of America. at that time in England, almost everyone was in jail at one time or other.
Wall Street wants to extract more money from imprisoning blacks, so this year, there is an 45% increase in incarceration of black women. This will leave many black children with no mother.
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing: Well arwa, following everything we've seen over the years, I doubt you are surprised. Look at all the white folks caught trying to steal children from Haiti and Africa. The scheme to imprison as many black men as possible is also a part of this play. It not only makes money using these black men as slaves for Wall Street, but it ensures that many other negative manifestations occur. Such as;
1. An increase in homosexuality in black men and women 2. Black children raised by women who don't know how to raise MEN. 3. Black men raised by women taking on the emulation of their mother. So, we now see black youth wearing ear rings, spending 2 hours looking in a mirror, owning 200 pair of shoes, etc. 4. The greater the homosexual number, the less effective socially radical black rights movements. 5. These homosexuals will campaign harder for gay rights, which is a Jewish agenda, and not at all for black rights. See Oprah.
Whites have been kidnapping children and brain washing them to their satanic value system since they first came to America and used the technique on Native Americans. They would go into Native American villages, steal all their children, indoctrinate them before returning them 5-10 years later. Once returned, their parents stated these brainwashed children were as bad or worst than whites themselves.
Blacks need to extract themselves from this trick bag before the majority of black men are like our Egmond, misdirected and ineffective.
I agree, the homosexual agenda has been pushed hard on Black men. Before the Y generation Homosexuals were not accepted at all, now you see Black Women thinking its cute to associate with Faggots. Look at most of the movies coming out, Majoity of them have a Homosexual, Bisexual, Lesbian, or Transgender in it to get the Youth to accept Homosexuals when they get older.
I feel sorry for the people with youth man for real, Yall gotta deal with the fact that its more than likely your Children will be taught Homosexual sex, Homosexual Teachers, Gym Teachers etc. will be indoctrinating your youth. These Homosexuals especially love to adobt black children and try to ride off the Back of Black Civil rights leaders.
Homosexuality is linked to white supremacy, look at my Nazi thread, of course Edmound ruined it by spamming Homosexual pictures but its true, the biggest White Supremists organizations are closet gays, becuase of the Homosexual origins in Ancient Greece.
Lets not forget the Genocide of Blacks by Planned Parent hood, the War on Drugs which is a campaighn against black men. etc. Also now the they are trying to get black women to marry white men. I mean notice that the biggest people pushing it are in bed with the New Age/Jewish factions..
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing: Wall Street wants to extract more money from imprisoning blacks, so this year, there is an 45% increase in incarceration of black women. This will leave many black children with no mother.
This is really heartbreaking. But one thing I can say about Black Americans, is that we still have that "African village" mentality when raising children are concerned, you can always count on an Aunt, or grandmother to raise the children of "unfit" parents whether incarcerated or not.
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
listen to all of this black self loathing, unreal. You guys just love being victims.
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing: ^ This is true in Africa (South Africa) also, and other regions where British influence reigns. Perhaps it's because the British and Europeans are more civilised than their American counterparts, and able to conceal there true agenda better. Also, black (men & women) intermarry with no real comprehension of the larger short and long term social ramifications of their selection.
Washington D.C. used to be like ATL, due to a disproportionately high population of black men being incarcerated. This left an unbalanced ratio of available black women to black men in D.C. of 3:1. Of course these women would then become concerned about not being able to find a good mate and perhaps look toward other alternatives.
Of course, Jews and Whites completely understand the negative effects of incarcerating a large population group due to their being subjected to the exact same thing in England prior to their invasion of America. at that time in England, almost everyone was in jail at one time or other.
Wall Street wants to extract more money from imprisoning blacks, so this year, there is an 45% increase in incarceration of black women. This will leave many black children with no mother.
The whole plan is to Genocide the American Black population or drastically reduce our numbers so they can get other Blacks in the Diaspora and in Africa many of which(Not All) believe the lie of "Western Freedom". They know the biggest thorn in White Supremacy is African Americans who have changed the western world when it comes to equality. If you notice the Older Generations had it together I mean look at the civil Rights era we were closer and more unified. We ALMOST came close to reunifing when Katrina happened after Bush but then they threw Obama and now Blacks are all docile and crying on T.V for a Nation that is literally genociding their people, and for a man that was supported by Planned Parenthood the organization at the front of the Genocide. While Blacks stay running in circles and stuck defending Obama, Obama is catering to the Homosexual Agenda, The Hispanic Population is booming, etc.
Blacks in the Diaspora NEED TO ESTABLISH settlements IN AFRICA. I will keep repeating this. We NEED to get away from this madness. America's days are numbered...in the future America will not be the same, and the black population will regulated simular to the Native Americans.
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: listen to all of this black self loathing, unreal. You guys just love being victims.
Yet your ass can't regut one thing we are saying.
1) The War on Drugs is a Bogus campaign to get black people long prison sentences. This is attested by many White Criminal Justice investigators who study the history of The War on Drugs.
2)Homosexuality is pushed in the Movies and on T.V. Many Movies coming out now are pushing very subtly and sometime very boldly the Homosexuality lifestyle which is unnatural. Its agains tlife itself.
3)Planned Parenhood is a Genocide against black Americans. This is even noted by Conservative Radicals like Sean Hannity that did a segment on PPH accepting payments that asked to TARGET blacks.
4)Homosexuality has been pushed herder on blacks due to the Black culture that is very anti-homosexual. Whites accept Homosexuals easier than blacks.
Posted by MelaninKing (Member # 17444) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: listen to all of this black self loathing, unreal. You guys just love being victims.
Victims is incorrect. Try substituting, "targets".
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
victims is the word. You call yourself men but all you do is whine and complain about white people. The irony is white people never even think about you.
Try to talk to white people about black victims and they change the subject or ignore you. They are disinterested.
Posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye (Member # 16969) on :
When you look at it realistically, as a Black man - and you're lying through the teeth if you don't agree with me on this - your two biggest haters are envious white men and disgruntled Black women.
They might as well get together and merge in magical alchemy to create something (daughters) useful to Black men Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
MK don't let this troll derail the topic of the Thread.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
You stupid idiot! Asking someone their preference to something does not mean they have access to it. I prefer a $400k vehicle if I had a choice to pick one. But obviously such a car is well beyond my means. Administering a survey asking black women if they prefer to date inside the race does not necessarily preclude the fact that they are single because they are the least desired women.
Socially, black women are not accounted for female beauty. Nearly all countries promote "white" or European beauty. You can deny the facts, but the facts won't go away.
The fact is Black women are not a commodity in the arena of transracial dating. The most sought after women are Latinos and Asians. Those are the facts. Many black women pretend they are single by posturing as though they are holding out when it comes to outside race dating. It is a farce. They are single because there are not enough black male counterparts and they are not desireable to non-black men.
quote:Originally posted by homeylu: This is very disturbing, especially since statistical data has shown that African American women are the LEAST likely to date/marry outside their race, not because they are the "least desired" but because they have the "strongest preference" for same race relationships, more than any of the others in the survey, which included Asian, White, and Hispanic.
Now there is propaganda to try to "encourage" them to do so. I can't believe Oprah is advocating for this. Granted, if they so happen to fall in love with a White man by chance, then let it be, but actually changing their "preference" is a detriment to our society. Sorry if I sound prejudiced, but there's nothing wrong with having a "preference" for your own ethnic group, you'd probably have more in common, than not.
Posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye (Member # 16969) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: and they are not desireable to non-black men.
Bullshhit
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
No asshole! don't parce my words and take it out of context. Of course there are non-black men that desire black women. Case in pt. the photo of the couple in the first post. If you place my statement back in context, the fact is black women ARE THE LEAST DESIRED FEMALE ON THIS PLANET.
quote:Originally posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye:
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: and they are not desireable to non-black men.
Bullshhit
Posted by MelaninKing (Member # 17444) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic:
Socially, black women are not accounted for female beauty. Nearly all countries promote "white" or European beauty. You can deny the facts, but the facts won't go away.
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LOL, it must be American Hammer with yet another misguided alias.
Please show us where Africa, Jamaica, or Haiti promote white women as their standard of beauty. Also, if whites are so happy with their appearance, why then do they risk fatal skin cancer to lay in tanning beds, and use melanin laced cosmetics to cover their pasty skin?
Posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye (Member # 16969) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: No asshole! don't parce my words and take it out of context. Of course there are non-black men that desire black women. Case in pt. the photo of the couple in the first post. If you place my statement back in context, the fact is black women ARE THE LEAST DESIRED FEMALE ON THIS PLANET.
quote:Originally posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye:
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: and they are not desireable to non-black men.
Bullshhit
Idiot, most women on the planet are black. Can you see how what you're saying doesn't make sense?
You think the opinions spewed on your little world of TV is what the whole world thinks. What a dunce Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
You honestly want me to take your post seriously? You must not know about the lingering effects of self image-hate that has embedded itself in "black culture" throughout the African diaspora communities.
Go tell Mary J Blige she does not want to be white with her blonde hair or some sister with blue colored contacts. Oh wait!! [insert sarcasm statement]: "Those traits originated with the black man." [close statement]
quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing:
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic:
Socially, black women are not accounted for female beauty. Nearly all countries promote "white" or European beauty. You can deny the facts, but the facts won't go away.
LOL, it must be American Hammer with yet another misguided alias.
Please show us where Africa, Jamaica, or Haiti promote white women as their standard of beauty. Also, if whites are so happy with their appearance, why then do they risk fatal skin cancer to lay in tanning beds, and use melanin laced cosmetics to cover their pasty skin? [/QB][/QUOTE]
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
quote:Originally posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye: Idiot, most women on the planet are black. Can you see how what you're saying doesn't make sense?
Oh most great and noble one, do pray tell -- how is it most women on the planet are black? China has a 1.4 billion population and majority of them are high ass yellow to pasty. India has a 1.7 billion and a third is light skin. All europe is light skin, 2/3 of the US is light skin. 80% of Central and South America are light skin. All of North America is light skin. Russia light skin. 2/3rd of Africa is dark; 1/3 is light. Seems to me majority of the world is either light or white; pasty. But I do look fwd to your explanation on how most females are "Black."
quote: You think the opinions spewed on your little world of TV is what the whole world thinks. What a dunce
Uh yea it is that is why the prime minister of Japan, a head of state I might add, in the 1990s insulted American Negroes with his racist remark. Considering Japan has a neglible black population, it is safe to say he was indoctrinated by, ahem, as you put it, "opinions spewed on your little world of TV."
Posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye (Member # 16969) on :
You're just twisting my words about, you know I'm right. I said "black" and not "Black".
If you don't know the difference in the convention ask for an explanation.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
Ah! the trojan horse of Afrocentrists: "Black." Oh what a tangle web we weave. Okay sir, please explain to me where does "black" stop being black and "white" begins to be white. THIS IS FUN! WOOHOO!
quote:Originally posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye: You're just twisting my words about, you know I'm right. I said "black" and not "Black".
If you don't know the difference in the convention ask for an explanation.
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
so Jari, tell us please. Why would people dislike black men? The answer to that question may give you food for thought.
Posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye (Member # 16969) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: Ah! the trojan horse of Afrocentrists: "Black." Oh what a tangle web we weave. Okay sir, please explain to me where does "black" stop being black and "white" begins to be white. THIS IS FUN! WOOHOO!
quote:Originally posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye: You're just twisting my words about, you know I'm right. I said "black" and not "Black".
If you don't know the difference in the convention ask for an explanation.
If you're African you're Black with a capital B. It's a political construct.
90% of the world's population (male and female) is black/colored.
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
Political. The Chinese think black people are insects, they would not agree with you.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
That is not what I asked you sir. Let's try again, "Okay sir, please explain to me where does "black" stop being black and "white" begins to be white?" And an addendum to that is, how did you come to derive that all ranges of color imply "black"? What dictionary are you using sir?
quote:Originally posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye: If you're African you're Black with a capital B. It's a political construct.
90% of the world's population (male and female) is black/colored.
Posted by KING (Member # 9422) on :
Man reading this thread just makes you think.
Never really travelled to the USA but if what you people say is happening to the Black Americans, then something must be done.
Forcing Homosexuality on Blacks in America and Africa is one of the things the west is desperate for. Black Americans always had a thing against this perversion, yet with the making of Atlanta and the downlow brothers more and more Blacks are turning Gay. They imprison Black men to take them out the picture. They adopt Black babies to teach them "Gay Okay" lies. The Family structure of Blacks is what kept them together through all the racist and slavery times. Racists know this, thats why you hear a great push to Adopt Black Babies from entertainers etc. Oprah wants this because she is a women with a vendetta against all Black males.
Unless Black people wake up, it looks like they are trying to wipe most Black men out of the world. Steal the women. Egypt was stolen and now with hawass and his cult like followers they are messing with the DNA of Tut so european people like hammer can say things like Tut was Euro. It is beyond crazy. Blacks need leaders that will rally around the simplest of things but the greatest of things....Survival. No one on earth has the instincts to make it through evil times like Black people. Teach the Brothers to love there wives and not leave them like the society wants them to do. Stop the senseless materialism I see more Men wearing fitted clothes showing off there bodies like women. Black entertainers are in it for themselves, don't care about the people. Their Brainwashed. They don't teach Unity to the African Americans and there leaders are M.I.A. money is the root of evil. Thats why Jesse Jackson is not saying nothing nor Al Sharpton.
I see so much the push for homosexuality it bothers me. I see parents allowing there children to wear tight jeans etc. They have people telling Girls to be promsicuios experiment with there friends. The Gay agenda is Sodom all over again. Yet people don't take this serious enough.
Africa has to be prepared to defend itself from the West and there planned parenthood, gay okay lifestyles.
I just don't understand why Africa has to be a poor Continent. The minerals are there that can help the people live a life with enough food, clothes, and Shelter. The Governments really need to do for the people.
All I want is Unity amongst the people yet the elite make it tough. They are trying to re enslave the people, yet the people don't speak up. Black Unity is key in All this, If the Blacks unite, the people will follow.
Peace
Posted by The Explorer (Member # 14778) on :
This blockhead gives a whole new dimension to sheer stupidity -- i.e. : "the fact is black women ARE THE LEAST DESIRED FEMALE ON THIS PLANET."
If that were fact, there would be NO black people on the planet, klutz, and you wouldn't be here pretending to be one.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: You intelligent creature! Asking someone their preference to something does not mean they have access to it. I prefer a $400k vehicle if I had a choice to pick one. But obviously such a car is well beyond my means. Administering a survey asking black women if they prefer to date inside the race does not necessarily preclude the fact that they are single because they are the least desired women.
Socially, black women are not accounted for female beauty. Nearly all countries promote "white" or European beauty. You can deny the facts, but the facts won't go away.
The fact is Black women are not a commodity in the arena of transracial dating. The most sought after women are Latinos and Asians. Those are the facts. Many black women pretend they are single by posturing as though they are holding out when it comes to outside race dating. It is a farce. They are single because there are not enough black male counterparts and they are not desireable to non-black men.
Besides your own self-hate and that of your Haitian mother, (because you were probably raised and brainwashed by white as someone stated above) Where are your findings to prove your theory.
You do know that the Haitian actress Grabielle Beuvias (sp) is married to a white man? As well as several others Black women with ethnic features, including dark skin and full lips, ex. Whoopi Goldberg, Alfre Woodard, Erika Alexander, the lists goes on.
Anyway according to this survey, Black women are the LEAST likely to date outside of their race, and ASIAN women were considered the least desirable when "attractiveness" was used as an indicator.
So unless you have some statistical data to prove your position, I'll have to assume that it is your own personal opinion, stemming from self-hate and brain-washing by your adoptive white parents.
quote:Originally posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye: When you look at it realistically, as a Black man - and you're lying through the teeth if you don't agree with me on this - your two biggest haters are envious white men and disgruntled Black women.
They might as well get together and merge in magical alchemy to create something (daughters) useful to Black men
You are saying "disgruntled" Black women and not Black women in general right? I hope so.
The same can be said about "disgruntled" Black men, who are more likely to have a "racial preference" for anyone EXCEPT Black females. And will usually compare the most "ghetto-ish" unappealing female to base their preferences on. I've seen it on too many talk shows.
Posted by KING (Member # 9422) on :
I don't know whats going on, but my faith will never be Shaken.
People Can ignore my posts and insult me but I will continue to push for the things I have always spoken on about.
Unity is key.
Peace
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by KING: I don't know whats going on, but my faith will never be Shaken.
People Can ignore my posts and insult me but I will continue to push for the things I have always spoken on about.
Unity is key.
Peace
Trust me King this was NOT ignored!
"I believe that the most beautiful love is between Black women and Men. They were the first Kings and Queens and the love they have for each other, has lasted through slavery and civil rights."
Posted by The Explorer (Member # 14778) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic:
Oh most great and noble one, do pray tell -- how is it most women on the planet are black? China has a 1.4 billion population and majority of them are high ass yellow to pasty. India has a 1.7 billion and a third is light skin. All europe is light skin, 2/3 of the US is light skin. 80% of Central and South America are light skin. All of North America is light skin. Russia light skin. 2/3rd of Africa is dark; 1/3 is light. Seems to me majority of the world is either light or white; pasty. But I do look fwd to your explanation on how most females are "Black."
Empty terms like "light skin" is of course irrelevant to the fact that "whites" are in fact the minority in the world
From your nearest online encyclopedia:
Click on the image for a greater resolution shot.
Look at those pasty white areas in Europe, parts of central Asia and north thereof; that's right, they are representative of your "white" kin.
Posted by The Explorer (Member # 14778) on :
quote:Originally posted by KING:
Egypt was stolen and now with hawass and his cult like followers they are messing with the DNA of Tut so european people like hammer can say things like Tut was Euro.
Not so much of Hawass messing with the DNA, but rather, the gullible -- if not individuals who simply are resigned to the first thing they hear and don't have the motivation to verify information either because they are lazy and/or know little about genetic stuff -- sheep-like crowd out there who run off with someone's speculations and make more noise off of it, hence spreading rumor. I'd say that is the main culprit here.Hawass for his part, has been mute on the complete specifics of the uniparental lineages involved, particularly the Y-DNA. Hawass, I would think, would not hesitate to make it *officially* publicly known, if he stepped on a mine of information that contradicts "black African" proponents of AE. He has not publicly shied from making his position on this matter; so why would he start now.
Posted by KING (Member # 9422) on :
Let me Clear the air a bit.
I believe that you can't help who you love.
So if a Black man likes a White women or vice versa I think that Love is stronger then skin color.
All I was reading on this thread made it seem like Black Women were being forced to date, marry outside their race. Thats just wrong, never force anyone to do something like that. Love knows no bounds and we as humans should not try to limit ourselves or ignore true love because the person does not look like us. The world is getting smaller and scarier so when you find true Love. Marry have a family raise up children, and don't let the system tell you how love your Husband or Wife. The system only promotes lust and abortions.
Peace
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
Truth hurts don't it (LOL). The predominant skin tone of African Negroes fall under the 27+ range on the Luschan scale. While the rest of the planet falls between (1-26), w/ a central tendency: (17-23). Sorry buddy, but like I said - the majority of people on the planet or either light or white skin. Oh yea! Thanks for providing the scale (LOL)!
quote:Originally posted by The Explorer: Empty terms like "light skin" is of course irrelevant to the fact that "whites" are in fact the minority in the world
From your nearest online encyclopedia:
Click on the image for a greater resolution shot.
Look at those pasty white areas in Europe, parts of central Asia and north thereof; that's right, they are representative of your "white" kin.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
My apologies sir. That should have said "Latino and White women are the most sought after..." I must have just had me some chicken wings and fried rice, w/some terriaky (s/p?) sauce on the side when I typed that up.
quote:Originally posted by homeylu: ASIAN women were considered the least desirable when "attractiveness" was used as an indicator.
So unless you have some statistical data to prove your position, I'll have to assume that it is your own personal opinion, stemming from self-hate and brain-washing by your adoptive white parents.
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by homeylu:
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: You intelligent creature! Asking someone their preference to something does not mean they have access to it. I prefer a $400k vehicle if I had a choice to pick one. But obviously such a car is well beyond my means. Administering a survey asking black women if they prefer to date inside the race does not necessarily preclude the fact that they are single because they are the least desired women.
Socially, black women are not accounted for female beauty. Nearly all countries promote "white" or European beauty. You can deny the facts, but the facts won't go away.
The fact is Black women are not a commodity in the arena of transracial dating. The most sought after women are Latinos and Asians. Those are the facts. Many black women pretend they are single by posturing as though they are holding out when it comes to outside race dating. It is a farce. They are single because there are not enough black male counterparts and they are not desireable to non-black men.
Besides your own self-hate and that of your Haitian mother, (because you were probably raised and brainwashed by white as someone stated above) Where are your findings to prove your theory.
You do know that the Haitian actress Grabielle Beuvias (sp) is married to a white man? As well as several others Black women with ethnic features, including dark skin and full lips, ex. Whoopi Goldberg, Alfre Woodard, Erika Alexander, the lists goes on.
Anyway according to this survey, Black women are the LEAST likely to date outside of their race, and ASIAN women were considered the least desirable when "attractiveness" was used as an indicator.
So unless you have some statistical data to prove your position, I'll have to assume that it is your own personal opinion, stemming from self-hate and brain-washing by your adoptive white parents.
I have no idea why yall take this dude serious. Thank you for providing a scientific sutdy: Results Asians(Women) The least attractive women overall.
With this measure in hand, we can address the second question of whether different races receive roughly the same distribution of attractiveness ratings. We do so by running OLS re- gressions of the average attractiveness rating a partner receives on that partner’s race. We run a separate regression for each gender, but pool together subjects of different races for ease of ex- position since Table 5 suggests no systematic differences in ratings based on subject’s own race. The results are reported in Table 6, with white as the omitted category. For male partners (column (1)), our main finding is that Asians generally receive lower ratings than men of other races.20 In fact, when we run the regressions separately for each race, we find that even Asian women find white, black, and Hispanic men to be more attractive than Asian men. Given that Asian men were the group that other races expressed strongest preference against, and that Asian women ex- pressed the least preference against other races, the results in Table 6 suggest that attractiveness may play an important role in the determination of racial preferences, especially those against Asian men. We similarly find that female Asian partners are consistently rated as less attractive (column (2)), though we also find that black females receive significantly lower ratings relative to whites. As above, we find that when these regressions are run separately for each race, even Asian men find white, black, and Hispanic women to be more attractive than Asian women
Afronut debunked again.
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: My apologies sir. That should have said "Latino and White women are the most sought after..." I must have just had me some chicken wings and fried rice, w/some terriaky (s/p?) sauce on the side when I typed that up.
quote:Originally posted by homeylu: ASIAN women were considered the least desirable when "attractiveness" was used as an indicator.
So unless you have some statistical data to prove your position, I'll have to assume that it is your own personal opinion, stemming from self-hate and brain-washing by your adoptive white parents.
Man Shut the **** up you little Bitch mad ignorant ass you THIS IS WHAT YOU WROTE:
The fact is Black women are not a commodity in the arena of transracial dating. The most sought after women are Latinos and Asians. Those are the facts. Many black women pretend they are single by posturing as though they are holding out when it comes to outside race dating. It is a farce. They are single because there are not enough black male counterparts and they are not desireable to non-black men.
OWN UP TO THAT **** LIKE a man you pussified Fag. YOu Said Asian women along with Latinas were the most sought after. You are not sqirming out of this one, like you always do. YOU Fucking Retarded nigga.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
My little negro friend, had you read the preceeding paragraph you would have seen that putting "Asian" in there would not jibe correctly w/the context. Here is the preceeding paragraph, little negro:
quote: Socially, black women are not accounted for female beauty. Nearly all countries promote "white" or European beauty. You can deny the facts, but the facts won't go away.
Run along now my little negro, run along.
quote:Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun: Man Shut the **** up you little Bitch mad ignorant ass you THIS IS WHAT YOU WROTE:
The fact is Black women are not a commodity in the arena of transracial dating. The most sought after women are Latinos and Asians. Those are the facts. Many black women pretend they are single by posturing as though they are holding out when it comes to outside race dating. It is a farce. They are single because there are not enough black male counterparts and they are not desireable to non-black men.
OWN UP TO THAT **** LIKE a man you pussified Fag. YOu Said Asian women along with Latinas were the most sought after. You are not sqirming out of this one, like you always do. YOU Fucking Retarded nigga.
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
My little negro friend, had you read the preceeding paragraph you would have seen that putting "Asian" in there would not jibe correctly w/the context. Here is the preceeding paragraph, little negro:[b] YOU LOST, NOTHING YOU POST will Save the Humilation you will get.
You wrote:
[b]The fact is Black women are not a commodity in the arena of transracial dating. The most sought after women are Latinos and Asians. Those are the facts. Many black women pretend they are single by posturing as though they are holding out when it comes to outside race dating. It is a farce. They are single because there are not enough black male counterparts and they are not desireable to non-black men.
The Table not only debunked your ass it made you scramble like a little bitch and try to change your argument. Your argument is that black features are the least desirable, fact is ASIAN features are. YOU LOST!!! HAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
EVERYONE POINT AT THE SCREEN AND LAUGH AT THIS STUPID TWO DOLLAR HAITIAN BITCH....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Feel that little bitch thats Humuliatian!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
You sound real desperate sir - you're grabbing for straws. Now... run along and go play in the pen.
quote:Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun: Your argument is that black features are the least desirable, fact is ASIAN features are. YOU LOST!!! HAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
EVERYONE POINT AT THE SCREEN AND LAUGH AT THIS STUPID TWO DOLLAR HAITIAN BITCH....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Feel that little bitch thats Humuliatian!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: You sound real desperate sir. Now... run along and go play in the pen.
quote:Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun: Your argument is that black features are the least desirable, fact is ASIAN features are. YOU LOST!!! HAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
EVERYONE POINT AT THE SCREEN AND LAUGH AT THIS STUPID TWO DOLLAR HAITIAN BITCH....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Feel that little bitch thats Humuliatian!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Once again your defeat!!!
Before:
The fact is Black women are not a commodity in the arena of transracial dating. The most sought after women are Latinos and Asians. Those are the facts. Many black women pretend they are single by posturing as though they are holding out when it comes to outside race dating. It is a farce. They are single because there are not enough black male counterparts and they are not desireable to non-black men.
th this measure in hand, we can address the second question of whether different races receive roughly the same distribution of attractiveness ratings. We do so by running OLS re- gressions of the average attractiveness rating a partner receives on that partner’s race. We run a separate regression for each gender, but pool together subjects of different races for ease of ex- position since Table 5 suggests no systematic differences in ratings based on subject’s own race. The results are reported in Table 6, with white as the omitted category. For male partners (column (1)), our main finding is that Asians generally receive lower ratings than men of other races.20 In fact, when we run the regressions separately for each race, we find that even Asian women find white, black, and Hispanic men to be more attractive than Asian men. Given that Asian men were the group that other races expressed strongest preference against, and that Asian women ex- pressed the least preference against other races, the results in Table 6 suggest that attractiveness may play an important role in the determination of racial preferences, especially those against Asian men. We similarly find that female Asian partners are consistently rated as less attractive (column (2)), though we also find that black females receive significantly lower ratings relative to whites. As above, we find that when these regressions are run separately for each race, even Asian men find white, black, and Hispanic women to be more attractive than Asian women
After: My apologies sir. That should have said "Latino and White women are the most sought after Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
"the image of the strong African American woman is at odds with idealized notions of submissive and frail women. This may explain why African American women faced high levels of rejection among men, researchers say."
"White men preferred Asian and Latino dating partners to African Americans"
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: [QB] "the image of the strong African American woman is at odds with idealized notions of submissive and frail women. This may explain why African American women faced high levels of rejection among men, researchers say."
"White men preferred Asian and Latino dating partners to African Americans"
This has to do with the opinion of men Overall which was that Black Femles were the least attractive not excusily to white men..LMAO..
Once again your defeat!!!
Before:
The fact is Black women are not a commodity in the arena of transracial dating. The most sought after women are Latinos and Asians. Those are the facts. Many black women pretend they are single by posturing as though they are holding out when it comes to outside race dating. It is a farce. They are single because there are not enough black male counterparts and they are not desireable to non-black men.
th this measure in hand, we can address the second question of whether different races receive roughly the same distribution of attractiveness ratings. We do so by running OLS re- gressions of the average attractiveness rating a partner receives on that partner’s race. We run a separate regression for each gender, but pool together subjects of different races for ease of ex- position since Table 5 suggests no systematic differences in ratings based on subject’s own race. The results are reported in Table 6, with white as the omitted category. For male partners (column (1)), our main finding is that Asians generally receive lower ratings than men of other races.20 In fact, when we run the regressions separately for each race, we find that even Asian women find white, black, and Hispanic men to be more attractive than Asian men. Given that Asian men were the group that other races expressed strongest preference against, and that Asian women ex- pressed the least preference against other races, the results in Table 6 suggest that attractiveness may play an important role in the determination of racial preferences, especially those against Asian men. We similarly find that female Asian partners are consistently rated as less attractive (column (2)), though we also find that black females receive significantly lower ratings relative to whites. As above, we find that when these regressions are run separately for each race, even Asian men find white, black, and Hispanic women to be more attractive than Asian women
After: My apologies sir. That should have said "Latino and White women are the most sought after
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
"Unlike black women, Latinas and Asian women are thought to embody an idealized femininity that is at once exotic and sexual as well as chaste and virginal" (Berg 2002).
"Asian and Latina women have been defined as “the embodiment of perfect womanhood and exotic femininity”" (Espiritu 1997: 113; Arrizon and Manzor 2000).
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
Jari, If everyone dislikes black men as you say, why would that be? Why would the rest of the world just single out black men? My guess is that you are just drinking too much koolaide and imagine all of this but I am all ears.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: "the image of the strong African American woman is at odds with idealized notions of submissive and frail women. This may explain why African American women faced high levels of rejection among men, researchers say."
"White men preferred Asian and Latino dating partners to African Americans"
Asian and Hispanic women were not subjected to the historical abuse by White men as Black women have been, so they are obviously more willing to date/marry White men as a result.
Black women typically harbor a lot of resentment and distrust of White men because of their abusive past, and the ideal of being submissive to a White man reignites images of slave mistresses, and the sisters I know ARE NOT HAVING IT!! The studies show that they are more likely to prefer Hispanic men over White men, when the choice was not Black men, otherwise they prefer their own, and no propaganda is going to change that anytime soon.
You can make an issue out of whether they are the least desired, but you can NOT change the fact that they PREFER their own men more than any other race. FACT!
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by homeylu:
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: "the image of the strong African American woman is at odds with idealized notions of submissive and frail women. This may explain why African American women faced high levels of rejection among men, researchers say."
"White men preferred Asian and Latino dating partners to African Americans"
Asian and Hispanic women were not subjected to the historical abuse by White men as Black women have been, so they are obviously more willing to date/marry White men as a result.
Black women typically harbor a lot of resentment and distrust of White men because of their abusive past, and the ideal of being submissive to a White man reignites images of slave mistresses, and the sisters I know ARE NOT HAVING IT!! The studies show that they are more likely to prefer Hispanic men over White men, when the choice was not Black men, otherwise they prefer their own, and no propaganda is going to change that anytime soon.
You can make an issue out of whether they are the least desired, but you can NOT change the fact that they PREFER their own men more than any other race. FACT!
Homylu you are playing into his desperate attempt to squirm by changing the Subject. The post he gave dealt with WHITE MEN as opposed to an overall Group study that showed overall Asian women are least desirable.
He has been debunked by claiming black women were the least desirable and Asians were the most sought after. He said nothing about White men preferences...LMAO. Don't let him squirm. He knows he has been defeated so he is jumping on any study that shows B.W are undesirable..LOL.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun: I have no idea why yall take this dude serious. Thank you for providing a scientific sutdy:
YW
I don't think anyone takes this auto-phobic jerk seriously though. Some of us just enjoy arguing for the sake of argument, he's just a pawn. Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
I gave actual studies and in return you post your opinion. On the jump, you lose. But that does not matter... Because I am going to respond to you w/an opinion.
Black women seek confirmation of their beauty at the hands of white men. No other men can give her this affirmation that she is beautiful, save white men. Why? Because the white man holds the power to dictate and direct beauty standards and, the rest of the world follows suit.
The White man has propped up Asian and Latino women as the most balanced female beauty outside their prize wife; the white woman (I provided citations to this. Please consult the earlier posts). The White man has NEVER, never, never portrayed black women as beautiful. What she's received from him are mammie portrayls, jezebel portrayals, sapphire portrayls, bedwhench portrayals, and etcetera.
Ever since the feminists movement, Black women have become financially and educationally empowered and it was at a cost. She outpaced her black male counterpart. And while black women have been financially and educationally empowered, she lacked that one thing, the crownhood of feminity; acknowledgment of beauty.
The holy grail for Black women is to get the white man's attention to see her beauty. Once that is accomplished, Black women will feel that they have definitely arrived in womanhood. If the white man views her in this new light, then the rest of the world will also.
Oprah has taken up the cause to coerce white men to accept black women (I don't think it will work. White guys like their girls skinny and I doubt black women will want to shed some of the excess fat) as an alternative mate.
You can deny this all you want, but the truth will aways be the truth - Black women are the least desired and they are desperately trying to change that fact.
quote:Originally posted by homeylu: Asian and Hispanic women were not subjected to the historical abuse by White men as Black women have been, so they are obviously more willing to date/marry White men as a result.
Black women typically harbor a lot of resentment and distrust of White men because of their abusive past, and the ideal of being submissive to a White man reignites images of slave mistresses, and the sisters I know ARE NOT HAVING IT!! The studies show that they are more likely to prefer Hispanic men over White men, when the choice was not Black men, otherwise they prefer their own, and no propaganda is going to change that anytime soon.
You can make an issue out of whether they are the least desired, but you can NOT change the fact that they PREFER their own men more than any other race. FACT!
Posted by Truthcentric (Member # 3735) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: (I don't think it will work. White guys like their girls skinny and I doubt black women will want to shed some of the excess fat)
You do realize that tropically adapted humans (e.g. Africans) naturally have less body fat and more slender forms than cold-adapted humans (e.g. Europeans), don't you?
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
I gave actual studies and in return you post your opinion. On the jump, you lose. No sorry you psited BW were the least deriable overall and asian were the Most(along with Latinas) The results of a study debunked you. You said nothing about White men, the fact that you are so desperatly trying to change the subject shows you defeat. I can post you response prior to the study and your lame attempt to squirm.
But that does not matter... Because I am going to respond to you w/an opinion. LMAO, Bitch Shut the **** up, no one cares nor asked for you opinion. Did you not just pull hair out of your head on the Aboriginal thread when I posted a Blog...F-ing Hypocrite your B.S is Dismissed provide a study that proves our conclusion wrong otherwise admit defeat.
Homylu this is what Im talking about the dude want to simply rde your emotions. He lost Don't let him allow you to change the subject.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: I gave actual studies and in return you post your opinion. On the jump, you lose. But that does not matter... Because I am going to respond to you w/an opinion.
Black women seek confirmation of their beauty at the hands of white men. No other men can give her this affirmation that she is beautiful, save white men. Why? Because the white man holds the power to dictate and direct beauty standards and, the rest of the world follows suit.
Then please answer why the White man and his 'proposed' beauty standards has selected 10 times more Black women to employ the international standard of beauty via the term "SUPER MODEL" than their Asian and Hispanic counterparts. And where are all these Asian and Hispanic representatives of Miss America and Miss USA's the white male judges keep choosing to represent "their" standards of beauty?
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by homeylu:
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: I gave actual studies and in return you post your opinion. On the jump, you lose. But that does not matter... Because I am going to respond to you w/an opinion.
Black women seek confirmation of their beauty at the hands of white men. No other men can give her this affirmation that she is beautiful, save white men. Why? Because the white man holds the power to dictate and direct beauty standards and, the rest of the world follows suit.
Then please answer why the White man and his 'proposed' beauty standards has selected 10 times more Black women to employ the international standard of beauty via the term "SUPER MODEL" than their Asian and Hispanic counterparts. And where are all these Asian and Hispanic representatives of Miss America and Miss USA's the white male judges keep choosing to represent "their" standards of beauty?
HL, with all respect, can't you see what he is trying to do. He wants you to define your beaty according to a "White Mans" opinion then he can trap you by degrading black females and his bogus study on a White Mans opinion of B.W. Truth be told There are other Men in the world besides white men and Over all people prefer Black women and Asians are the least desirable. PERIOD.
This is his lame attempt to change the subject to one he can easily dominate you in. I mean you CAN SEE this is what he is doing right??
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
I suggest you go read the studies I provided. Go here for starters:
Additionally, Oprah is spearheading a push to get the world to view black women as beautiful women. She is a major player in the media. Expect more representation of Black beauty in media. However, in my opinion it won't last. Compared to her female counterparts, Black women do not have stronge feminin physical qualities and features; soft hair, soft facial features, soft vocals, soft skin, petite build, etc...
quote:Originally posted by homeylu: Then please answer why the White man and his 'proposed' beauty standards has selected 10 times more Black women to employ the international standard of beauty via the term "SUPER MODEL" than their Asian and Hispanic counterparts. And where are all these Asian and Hispanic representatives of Miss America and Miss USA's the white male judges keep choosing to represent "their" standards of beauty?
Posted by xyyman (Member # 13597) on :
I wanted to believe you are black, as Mike would say, a negro, but statements like that. . .well. . .HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
You have NOT been around many black women have you??. Is yuh momma black??
Womanhoood IS a blackwoman.
The last thing a black woman want is the acceptance of a white man.
Hang around some black women you will know what I am talking about. They are the more "race" conscious of the two. You are definitely NOT black. At least you momma isn't.
They are the keepers and protectors.
All women are attractive including white women. I love all women but sistas have the edge when they are younger. However many let themselves go when the kids and mid-thirties arrive. White women are more attentive to their fitness past thirty.
I have been to the Caribbean where over eating is NOT a problem. And trust me brother these sistas are worth committing adultery for . . .at all ages.
Similarly in certain parts of Europe I have been. Many of the women are physically in shape/fit. Fat is not an issue. But they aren't into makeup so you see slim fit white women . . . . without makeup . . .pick your poison.
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic:
The holy grail for Black women is to get the white man's attention.
Once that is accomplished, Black women will feel that they have definitely arrived in womanhood.
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Posted by Truthcentric (Member # 3735) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: Black women do not have stronge feminin physical qualities and features; soft hair, soft facial features, soft vocals, soft skin, petite build, etc...
I'm going to call you out on the "petite build" thing. As I said in a previous post, tropically adapted peoples naturally have less body fat and more slender builds than peoples from colder climates. Therefore, if anything, black women (assuming they have a healthy diet) probably have thinner, more delicate, and therefore more "feminine" builds than white or Asian women.
And since when were European facial features "soft"? If anything, European features look more angular and pointy than the features of many west or central Africans.
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
Hl, With all due respect If you Don't see what this dud is trying to do then you must believe the stuff he posts...
Black women do not have stronge feminin physical qualities and features; soft hair, soft facial features, soft vocals, soft skin, petite build, etc...
I mean come on HL you Do see what is going on here right??
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
Petite build does not imply a rail. Black women in Africa are emaciated bruh. And those that aren't, do not possess the hour glass contour noted in european and latino chics.
quote:Originally posted by Truthcentric: I'm going to call you out on the "petite build" thing. As I said in a previous post, tropically adapted peoples naturally have less body fat and more slender builds than peoples from colder climates. Therefore, if anything, black women (assuming they have a healthy diet) probably have thinner, more delicate, and therefore more "feminine" builds than white or Asian women.
And since when were European facial features "soft"? [/qb]
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
You do not know the psychology of a woman torn between loyalty to race and being told she is ugly. She will tell an idiot overly fanatical Afro-loon like you how she is all for her man, blah...blah...blah... But those are words, not action. She will then go buy weave, colored eye contacts and skin bleeching cream to fit the beauty mold created by the white man.
You are like an ostrich sir. You have your head stuck in the hole avoiding reality; the reality of your black woman.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Hang around some black women you will know what I am talking about. They are the more "race" conscious of the two.
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
Additionally, Oprah is spearheading a push to get the world to view black women as beautiful women. Again this has nothing to do with your argument that B.W are the least desirable. As a matter of fact it a totally 360 turn from you argument that B.W are the least desirable overall with no influence. Studies show Asians are. You seem to be Ignoring this...I wonder Why???
She is a major player in the media. So now the Media has something to do with your argument from what I gather it was about B.W perception over all which does not support your claims. Once Again Asians are the least desirable.
Expect more representation of Black beauty in media. However, in my opinion it won't last. Compared to her female counterparts, Black women do not have stronge feminin physical qualities and features; soft hair, soft facial features, soft vocals, soft skin, petite build, etc... Let me quess more of you opinion. Well due to the fact you can't back up the **** you posted there its dismissed leading RIGHT BACK TO YOUR DEBUNKED theory...ASIANS not Black women are the least desirable. Keep scrambling but I will continue w=until you leave in defeat or admit defeat.
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
Petite build does not imply a rail. Black women in Africa are emaciated bruh. And those that aren't, do not possess the hour glass contour noted in european and latino chics. Pnce again your opinion. Unless you can back this up this is dismissed.
You do not know the psychology of a woman torn between loyalty to race and being told she is ugly. She will tell an idiot overly fanatical Afro-loon like you how she is all for her man, blah...blah...blah... But those are words, not action. This rant is barely understandable...you sound like a lost chicken. Guess the heat of providing a study that proves our study wrong and that you were defeated is getting to you. Take another Month Hiatus and come back you defeated fool.
She will then go buy weave, colored eye contacts and skin bleeching cream to fit the beauty mold created by the white man. Another opinion by you that is dismissed. You can squirm all you want but I will continue to knock you back down.
You are like an ostrich sir. You have your head stuck in the hole avoiding reality; the reality of your black woman.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
You are a freggin idiot! I dont know why i waste time conversing w/u. Asian women are considered least attractive, not least desired, you dodo brain. The stats speak for themselves. The percentage is higher for wm to af interracial relationships than wm to bf relationship. White men go for Asian chics over black chics, idiot.
Go jump off a cliff. You are annoying.
quote:Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun: Additionally, Oprah is spearheading a push to get the world to view black women as beautiful women. Again this has nothing to do with your argument that B.W are the least desirable. As a matter of fact it a totally 360 turn from you argument that B.W are the least desirable overall with no influence. Studies show Asians are. You seem to be Ignoring this...I wonder Why???
She is a major player in the media. So now the Media has something to do with your argument from what I gather it was about B.W perception over all which does not support your claims. Once Again Asians are the least desirable.
Expect more representation of Black beauty in media. However, in my opinion it won't last. Compared to her female counterparts, Black women do not have stronge feminin physical qualities and features; soft hair, soft facial features, soft vocals, soft skin, petite build, etc... Let me quess more of you opinion. Well due to the fact you can't back up the **** you posted there its dismissed leading RIGHT BACK TO YOUR DEBUNKED theory...ASIANS not Black women are the least desirable. Keep scrambling but I will continue w=until you leave in defeat or admit defeat.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun: HL, with all respect, can't you see what he is trying to do. He wants you to define your beaty according to a "White Mans" opinion then he can trap you by degrading black females and his bogus study on a White Mans opinion of B.W. Truth be told There are other Men in the world besides white men and Over all people prefer Black women and Asians are the least desirable. PERIOD.
This is his lame attempt to change the subject to one he can easily dominate you in. I mean you CAN SEE this is what he is doing right?? [/QB]
You're right, can't believe I fell for the ish.
No offense against my Asian and Hispanic sisters, I think you're all beautiful. Peace
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
you are a freggin idiot! I dont know why i waste time conversing w/u. Asian women are considered least attractive, not least desired, you dodo brain. LMAO, That has to be the dumbest statement yet. Even if I was to entertain this rant was not your argument that BLACK WOMEN WERE THE LEAST ATTRACTIVE. WTF, you are even debunking YOURSELF..dumbass... YOU FAIL, and your attempts to squirm get worse and worse with every rant you make.. The stats speak for themselves. Yes they do which shows overall by every man shows that Asian women are the elast attractive females not Black women. Provide a study prving otherwise WITH ALL MEN OVER ALL AND NOT JUST WHITE MEN(WHOM YOU SEEM TO OBCESS OVER) or Shut the **** up.
The percentage is higher for wm to af interracial relationships than wm to bf relationship. White men go for Asian chics over black chics, idiot. Again stop trying to squirm you Dumb Motherfucker you..This has nothing to do with White men its about ALL MEN OVER ALL WHO PERFER BLACKS OVER ASIANS..PERIOD. Stop trying to squirm, It won't work with me. Just give it up. you lost and was caught with you head in your ass. You are annoying. Yeah Im annoying to you becuase I now see how you operate dude, Im gonna get you ass everytime. Go jump off a cliff.Stay in a Child's place.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: You are a freggin idiot!
A clear sign of defeat Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by xyyman:
The last thing a black woman want is the acceptance of a white man.
I believe in general men don't like rejection. If a man approached a group of women in a bar for example, his tendency would be to approach the one least likely to dismiss him.
I think White men are very much aware that they would be quickly dismissed by a sister at the "roll of a neck"
Bottom line is they prefer their OWN men.
Posted by Grumman (Member # 14051) on :
Melaninking:
''I agree, the homosexual agenda has been pushed hard on Black men. Before the Y generation Homosexuals were not accepted at all, now you see Black Women thinking its cute to associate with Faggots.''
Poppycock. Do I have to read sources off the internet to see what you are saying or can I simple read two or three newspapers?
''Look at most of the movies coming out, Majoity of them have a Homosexual, Bisexual, Lesbian, or Transgender in it to get the Youth to accept Homosexuals when they get older.''
Aside from the fact Hollywood probably has some gays in power and therefore can afford to push their agenda, if any, do you think it is an easy task to get young black boys and girls to simply cast aside their natural heterosexual disposition and take up the couch with the other side? Or, as is more likely, if they do take up the other side then they may well have a leaning towards it anyway without being told or suggesting the alternative lifestyle is the way to go.
''I feel sorry for the people with youth man for real, Yall gotta deal with the fact that its more than likely your Children will be taught Homosexual sex, Homosexual Teachers, Gym Teachers etc. will be indoctrinating your youth.''
By extension, just like that, a person can be turned into a gay or lesbian... simply by being taught? Is this on the same line as reading writing and arithmetic? Two plus two is four, and now I want to see if two plus two equals five?
You don't suppose 85% of the teachers in any given locale will be alternative do you? Even if this would be true then are you saying these teachers will agrressivley push their lifestyle off on these kids? Unless the entire school board and the city administrations is alternative why would you and Jari-ankhamnun by extension suggest this could happen this way?
''becuase of the Homosexual origins in Ancient Greece.''
You will be advised Greece has some of that African blood and therefore....
Jari-ankhamun says,
''Homosexuality has been pushed herder on blacks due to the Black culture that is very anti-homosexual. Whites accept Homosexuals easier than blacks.''
Again, what would make you think Black men whom are supposedly vehemently against homosexuality would in any way be susceptible to that lifestyle simply because white folks push it on them and tell them it's acceptable? If you say yes then you are suggesting Black men are weak and can't think and reason for themselves. Is this what you want to say?
Posted by xyyman (Member # 13597) on :
You don't get it do you. We don't give a fuhck what white people think.
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: White men go for Asian chics over black chics, idiot.
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Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
You are really intellectually challenged, arent you? The whole premise of my argument is that, you ready?...............
BLACK WOMEN ARE THE LEAST DESIRED.
quote:Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun: you are a freggin idiot! I dont know why i waste time conversing w/u. Asian women are considered least attractive, not least desired, you dodo brain. LMAO, That has to be the dumbest statement yet. Even if I was to entertain this rant was not your argument that BLACK WOMEN WERE THE LEAST ATTRACTIVE. WTF, you are even debunking YOURSELF..dumbass... YOU FAIL, and your attempts to squirm get worse and worse with every rant you make.. The stats speak for themselves. Yes they do which shows overall by every man shows that Asian women are the elast attractive females not Black women. Provide a study prving otherwise WITH ALL MEN OVER ALL AND NOT JUST WHITE MEN(WHOM YOU SEEM TO OBCESS OVER) or Shut the **** up.
The percentage is higher for wm to af interracial relationships than wm to bf relationship. White men go for Asian chics over black chics, idiot. Again stop trying to squirm you Dumb Motherfucker you..This has nothing to do with White men its about ALL MEN OVER ALL WHO PERFER BLACKS OVER ASIANS..PERIOD. Stop trying to squirm, It won't work with me. Just give it up. you lost and was caught with you head in your ass. You are annoying. Yeah Im annoying to you becuase I now see how you operate dude, Im gonna get you ass everytime. Go jump off a cliff.Stay in a Child's place.
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: You are really intellectually challenged, arent you? The whole premise of my argument is that, you ready?...............
BLACK WOMEN ARE THE LEAST DESIRED.
quote:Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun: you are a freggin idiot! I dont know why i waste time conversing w/u. Asian women are considered least attractive, not least desired, you dodo brain. LMAO, That has to be the dumbest statement yet. Even if I was to entertain this rant was not your argument that BLACK WOMEN WERE THE LEAST ATTRACTIVE. WTF, you are even debunking YOURSELF..dumbass... YOU FAIL, and your attempts to squirm get worse and worse with every rant you make.. The stats speak for themselves. Yes they do which shows overall by every man shows that Asian women are the elast attractive females not Black women. Provide a study prving otherwise WITH ALL MEN OVER ALL AND NOT JUST WHITE MEN(WHOM YOU SEEM TO OBCESS OVER) or Shut the **** up.
The percentage is higher for wm to af interracial relationships than wm to bf relationship. White men go for Asian chics over black chics, idiot. Again stop trying to squirm you Dumb Motherfucker you..This has nothing to do with White men its about ALL MEN OVER ALL WHO PERFER BLACKS OVER ASIANS..PERIOD. Stop trying to squirm, It won't work with me. Just give it up. you lost and was caught with you head in your ass. You are annoying. Yeah Im annoying to you becuase I now see how you operate dude, Im gonna get you ass everytime. Go jump off a cliff.Stay in a Child's place.
Our Study debunked you, You have no way to back this up so you fail once again. Your squirming won't help you...you lost. Provide a study that proves our wrong or shut up.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
Yea you do idiot. That is why you participated in a thread titled: The Washington Post urges Black Women to Discard Black Men, which features a biracial relationship bet. a white man and black woman. You see, the min. white men start to date single black women en-masse then the game is over; a whole new breed of diluted blacks will replace idiot dinosaurs like you. The determinant factor is the white man. He will decide if he mates with black women.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: You don't get it do you. We don't give a fuhck what white people think.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
You better go re-read the study illiterate fool. The two least desired in your study (as well as dozens of others) are asian males and black females (LOL)!
quote:Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun: Out Study debunked you, You have no way to back this up so you fail once again.
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: You better go re-read the study illiterate fool. The two least desired in your study (as well as dozens of others) are asian males and black females (LOL)!
quote:Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun: Out Study debunked you, You have no way to back this up so you fail once again.
Once again provide evidence or shut up.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: Yea you do smart man. That is why you participated in a thread titled: The Washington Post urges Black Women to Discard Black Men, which features a biracial relationship bet. a white man and black woman. You see, the min. white men start to date single black women en-masse then the game is over; a whole new breed of diluted blacks will replace idiot dinosaurs like you. The determinant factor is the white man. He will decide if he mates with black women.
Using the title of the article alone, with your logic it should read " The Washington Post urges White men to date Black Women" then we can test if your theory holds true.
The mere fact that the Black woman has to be URGED alone, signifies that SHE is the one who holds the cards, SHE is the one that has to be convinced to PREFER other men besides her own. So our study remains constant: She Prefers her own race. Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
The First comment is my opinion, You can dismiss that.
Aside from the fact Hollywood probably has some gays in power and therefore can afford to push their agenda, if any, do you think it is an easy task to get young black boys and girls to simply cast aside their natural heterosexual disposition and take up the couch with the other side? Or, as is more likely, if they do take up the other side then they may well have a leaning towards it anyway without being told or suggesting the alternative lifestyle is the way to go.
First off If there was no agenda in putting Homosexuals in movies that most "Hetrosexuals" are going to see then why put it there. The claim that becuase most people in hollywood are gay is not enough to give a definitive answer. My guess is they want people to accept Homosexuality as natural which is happening.
By extension, just like that, a person can be turned into a gay or lesbian... simply by being taught? Is this on the same line as reading writing and arithmetic? Two plus two is four, and now I want to see if two plus two equals five?
You don't suppose 85% of the teachers in any given locale will be alternative do you? Even if this would be true then are you saying these teachers will agrressivley push their lifestyle off on these kids? Unless the entire school board and the city administrations is alternative why would you and Jari-ankhamnun by extension suggest this could happen this way? I never said they would turn people gay I said INDOCTINATING THEM. Getting them to accept an unnatural lifestyle. Such as alternative sex in school. Sex Ed is bad enough but now Gay Sex will be taught?? Man oh man.. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58130
You will be advised Greece has some of that African blood and therefore....What does this have to do with anything?
Again, what would make you think Black men whom are supposedly vehemently against homosexuality would in any way be susceptible to that lifestyle simply because white folks push it on them and tell them it's acceptable? If you say yes then you are suggesting Black men are weak and can't think and reason for themselves. Is this what you want to say? Trust me black people are against Homosexuality, I should know. Im not saying all black men are jumping on the wagon but a small minority. Even then my question is why everytime I turn on the T.V or look at a movie I see a Transgender, Homosexual, Lesbian etc. Is it now in vouge to show such things??
Posted by xyyman (Member # 13597) on :
@ the Euronut.
Got to admit threads like these I usually pass on.
But the title is just wishful thinking.. . .
But since I am here. I am past high school age now. But one thing I noticed, these young girls with their weaves and contacts still seem to prefer their black men. I don't see them stepping to white boys.
In fact the brothas still have the overwhelming edge when mating with white women.
This new "push" is probably just pay back. I see this everyday in the burbs of Philly. It is like an epidermic. Black men and white women. Hey whatever floats our boat.
I am out!
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
Here is my Opinion of Homosexuality(Why we are on this is beyond me). I gave my opinion...simple. Is my opinion the final say.NOPE.
1) Homosexuals are seen as unnatuural. Even with scientists saying its natural many people see it other wise. The excuse that its just Christians and Muslims who are saying this is not true. I know many people who are no Christian that have the same opinions that Christians do.
2) Homosexulity is being pushed in the Media. Why is this. My guess is that they want people to accept the lifestyle, if that is the case why do they have to go to such measures. Why not just let science speak for its self. Also Homosexuality is accepted more in the younger generations than the older ones. Why is this if not due to media portrayals.
1)Teaching Homosexual sex in school is wrong. Children should not have to learn about it unless they identify with the lifestyle.
My Opinion now lets get back to the discussion
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
quote:Originally posted by homeylu: The mere fact that the Black woman has to be URGED alone, signifies that SHE is the one who holds the cards, SHE is the one that has to be convinced to PREFER other men besides her own.
Uh wrong sir. She is being urged because there is a movement to change that negative "single" status. Black women have created a culture that convinces you being single or single w/child(ren) is okay. Concurrently, white males (who trans-racial date) are being influced through media (wm/bw relationships) that black women are an alternative.
quote: So our study remains constant: She Prefers her own race.
I never denied that. But why does she prefer her own race? TRADITION, LOYALTY AND THE MAIN ONE - A HIGH PROSPECT OF REJECTION BY NON BLACK MEN. Dont get me wrong now. Men are men; a man will poke a chic to get his nut off. But we're not talking about an easy lay. We are talking about building a relationship - marriage, children, house, extended family. It aint happening buddy. In western and developing societies, that is downward mobility for non-black men.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: But one thing I noticed, these young girls with their weaves and contacts still seem to prefer their black men. I don't see them stepping to white boys.
I already explained why and the studies back me up - white man do not engage black women for a serious relationship. White men aren't trying to get with black women on that level and sisters know this. When a black man is interested in a white woman, he courts her. This is a general rule for all men. You speak as if women initiate the courtship.
quote: In fact the brothas still have the overwhelming edge when mating with white women.
Of course because black men find white women desirable and go for it. White men dont engage black women, but they do go after the china girls.
quote: This new "push" is probably just pay back.
No I dont think so. Extensive study has gone into this. Oprah is a figure head she can pull the resources needed to pull it off. But she sure aint the brains behind it. Listen, let's face it, black men are just..... fvcked up. Black men, as exemplified on this board suffer some serious psychosis, mental disorders, mental illnesses... The pickings are slim for the sisters. I don't blame them. Why spend the rest of your life alone? Broaden your options.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic:
quote:Originally posted by homeylu: The mere fact that the Black woman has to be URGED alone, signifies that SHE is the one who holds the cards, SHE is the one that has to be convinced to PREFER other men besides her own.
Uh wrong sir. She is being urged because there is a movement to change that negative "single" status. Black women have created a culture that convinces you being single or single w/child(ren) is okay. Concurrently, white males (who trans-racial date) are being influced through media (wm/bw relationships) that black women are an alternative.
quote: So our study remains constant: She Prefers her own race.
I never denied that. But why does she prefer her own race? TRADITION, LOYALTY AND THE MAIN ONE - A HIGH PROSPECT OF REJECTION BY NON BLACK MEN. Dont get me wrong now. Men are men; a man will poke a chic to get his nut off. But we're not talking about an easy lay. We are talking about building a relationship - marriage, children, house, extended family. It aint happening buddy. In western and developing societies, that is downward mobility for non-black men.
Essentially what is displayed is that her preference is so strong, that she would rather remain single than to wander outside of her comfort zone, which is with Black men. And as I told your dumb azz before, the data shows that she prefers Hispanic men over White men, so why are you so obsessed with what Billy Bob Thornton wants, when it has already been stated, that Black women don't give a damn about what White men think of them. The history between the two is too damaging to erase. They have more control over their options than they did during slavery times. So wake the hell up.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
Because an Hispanic cannot validate a black woman's beauty, you nimcumpoop! Only a white man can. White men dictate beauty standards. He holds the prize all women seek. Can't you grasp such a simple concept?! If white men accept black beauty then sisters will be whole; they will have arrived. They have matched their nemesis - white women.
YOU DON'T FVCKING GET THE PSYCHOLOGY, DO YOU?
quote:Originally posted by homeylu:
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic:
quote:Originally posted by homeylu: The mere fact that the Black woman has to be URGED alone, signifies that SHE is the one who holds the cards, SHE is the one that has to be convinced to PREFER other men besides her own.
Uh wrong sir. She is being urged because there is a movement to change that negative "single" status. Black women have created a culture that convinces you being single or single w/child(ren) is okay. Concurrently, white males (who trans-racial date) are being influced through media (wm/bw relationships) that black women are an alternative.
quote: So our study remains constant: She Prefers her own race.
I never denied that. But why does she prefer her own race? TRADITION, LOYALTY AND THE MAIN ONE - A HIGH PROSPECT OF REJECTION BY NON BLACK MEN. Dont get me wrong now. Men are men; a man will poke a chic to get his nut off. But we're not talking about an easy lay. We are talking about building a relationship - marriage, children, house, extended family. It aint happening buddy. In western and developing societies, that is downward mobility for non-black men.
Essentially what is displayed is that her preference is so strong, that she would rather remain single than to wander outside of her comfort zone, which is with Black men. And as I told your dumb azz before, the data shows that she prefers Hispanic men over White men, so why are you so obsessed with what Billy Bob Thornton wants, when it has already been stated, that Black women don't give a damn about what White men think of them. The history between the two is too damaging to erase. They have more control over their options than they did during slavery times. So wake the hell up.
Posted by Bettyboo (Member # 12987) on :
quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing: Well arwa, following everything we've seen over the years, I doubt you are surprised. Look at all the white folks caught trying to steal children from Haiti and Africa. The scheme to imprison as many black men as possible is also a part of this play. It not only makes money using these black men as slaves for Wall Street, but it ensures that many other negative manifestations occur. Such as;
1. An increase in homosexuality in black men and women 2. Black children raised by women who don't know how to raise MEN. 3. Black men raised by women taking on the emulation of their mother. So, we now see black youth wearing ear rings, spending 2 hours looking in a mirror, owning 200 pair of shoes, etc. 4. The greater the homosexual number, the less effective socially radical black rights movements. 5. These homosexuals will campaign harder for gay rights, which is a Jewish agenda, and not at all for black rights. See Oprah.
Whites have been kidnapping children and brain washing them to their satanic value system since they first came to America and used the technique on Native Americans. They would go into Native American villages, steal all their children, indoctrinate them before returning them 5-10 years later. Once returned, their parents stated these brainwashed children were as bad or worst than whites themselves.
Blacks need to extract themselves from this trick bag before the majority of black men are like our Egmond, misdirected and ineffective.
Everything you said is so true. You forgot to mention that the prison tactic also increases the HIV/AIDS rate amongst black men when release infect black women. The prison tactic is destroy the black family, increase homosexuality, increase AIDS/HIV, increase poverty, and keep black women single.
Posted by Bettyboo (Member # 12987) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun:
quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing: ^ This is true in Africa (South Africa) also, and other regions where British influence reigns. Perhaps it's because the British and Europeans are more civilised than their American counterparts, and able to conceal there true agenda better. Also, black (men & women) intermarry with no real comprehension of the larger short and long term social ramifications of their selection.
Washington D.C. used to be like ATL, due to a disproportionately high population of black men being incarcerated. This left an unbalanced ratio of available black women to black men in D.C. of 3:1. Of course these women would then become concerned about not being able to find a good mate and perhaps look toward other alternatives.
Of course, Jews and Whites completely understand the negative effects of incarcerating a large population group due to their being subjected to the exact same thing in England prior to their invasion of America. at that time in England, almost everyone was in jail at one time or other.
Wall Street wants to extract more money from imprisoning blacks, so this year, there is an 45% increase in incarceration of black women. This will leave many black children with no mother.
The whole plan is to Genocide the American Black population or drastically reduce our numbers so they can get other Blacks in the Diaspora and in Africa many of which(Not All) believe the lie of "Western Freedom". They know the biggest thorn in White Supremacy is African Americans who have changed the western world when it comes to equality. If you notice the Older Generations had it together I mean look at the civil Rights era we were closer and more unified. We ALMOST came close to reunifing when Katrina happened after Bush but then they threw Obama and now Blacks are all docile and crying on T.V for a Nation that is literally genociding their people, and for a man that was supported by Planned Parenthood the organization at the front of the Genocide. While Blacks stay running in circles and stuck defending Obama, Obama is catering to the Homosexual Agenda, The Hispanic Population is booming, etc.
Blacks in the Diaspora NEED TO ESTABLISH settlements IN AFRICA. I will keep repeating this. We NEED to get away from this madness. America's days are numbered...in the future America will not be the same, and the black population will regulated simular to the Native Americans.
Thanks for mentioning this. I keep telling all my friends that in a 10 years time I want to be in Africa and they say why? I just tell them to stay in America...and I'll make my plans to leave. America is not for black people and if Africans were smart they wouldn't leave African even with all the hardships.
Posted by Bettyboo (Member # 12987) on :
quote:Originally posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye:
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: and they are not desireable to non-black men.
Bullshhit
She's telling the truth. Black women do prefer black men but I think it's because other men in general don't desire black women. They have no choice but to be loyal because their chances would be slim when picking a mate compare to other women.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
I'm sorry to say but the truth in your words will fall on deaf ears. This guys are so full of pride that it compromises their objectivity.
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo: She's telling the truth. Black women do prefer black men but I think it's because other men in general don't desire black women. They have no choice but to be loyal because their chances would be slim when picking a mate compare to other women.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo:
quote:Originally posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye:
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: and they are not desireable to non-black men.
Bullshhit
She's telling the truth. Black women do prefer black men but I think it's because other men in general don't desire black women. They have no choice but to be loyal because their chances would be slim when picking a mate compare to other women.
How do you know that Recovering azzhole is a "she"? I always assumed it was a Haitian man.
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: Because an Hispanic cannot validate a black woman's beauty, you nimcumpoop! Only a white man can. White men dictate beauty standards. He holds the prize all women seek. Can't you grasp such a simple concept?! If white men accept black beauty then sisters will be whole; they will have arrived. They have matched their nemesis - white women.
YOU DON'T FVCKING GET THE PSYCHOLOGY, DO YOU?
quote:Originally posted by homeylu:
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic:
quote:Originally posted by homeylu: The mere fact that the Black woman has to be URGED alone, signifies that SHE is the one who holds the cards, SHE is the one that has to be convinced to PREFER other men besides her own.
Uh wrong sir. She is being urged because there is a movement to change that negative "single" status. Black women have created a culture that convinces you being single or single w/child(ren) is okay. Concurrently, white males (who trans-racial date) are being influced through media (wm/bw relationships) that black women are an alternative.
quote: So our study remains constant: She Prefers her own race.
I never denied that. But why does she prefer her own race? TRADITION, LOYALTY AND THE MAIN ONE - A HIGH PROSPECT OF REJECTION BY NON BLACK MEN. Dont get me wrong now. Men are men; a man will poke a chic to get his nut off. But we're not talking about an easy lay. We are talking about building a relationship - marriage, children, house, extended family. It aint happening buddy. In western and developing societies, that is downward mobility for non-black men.
Essentially what is displayed is that her preference is so strong, that she would rather remain single than to wander outside of her comfort zone, which is with Black men. And as I told your dumb azz before, the data shows that she prefers Hispanic men over White men, so why are you so obsessed with what Billy Bob Thornton wants, when it has already been stated, that Black women don't give a damn about what White men think of them. The history between the two is too damaging to erase. They have more control over their options than they did during slavery times. So wake the hell up.
Why are you so obsessed with white men??
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
I'm a dude.
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo: She's
Posted by xyyman (Member # 13597) on :
What a way to spend a Sunday evening. Football season is over. sigh!!
Posted by Bettyboo (Member # 12987) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: "the image of the strong African American woman is at odds with idealized notions of submissive and frail women. This may explain why African American women faced high levels of rejection among men, researchers say."
"White men preferred Asian and Latino dating partners to African Americans"
It is a good thing that white men prefer Asian and Latino as dating partners. That is a plus.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
Why do you say that? Do you think that if white men sought out black women, black women would give them the same opportunity as black men?
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo: It is a good thing that white men prefer Asian and Latino as dating partners. That is a plus.
Posted by Bettyboo (Member # 12987) on :
quote:Originally posted by homeylu:
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo:
quote:Originally posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye:
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: and they are not desireable to non-black men.
Bullshhit
She's telling the truth. Black women do prefer black men but I think it's because other men in general don't desire black women. They have no choice but to be loyal because their chances would be slim when picking a mate compare to other women.
How do you know that Recovering azzhole is a "she"? I always assumed it was a Haitian man.
I don't know his or hers gender but she is telling the truth. Black women is forced to be loyal because she would be left with nothing. Black women aren't 'desired' by men in general. You can blame it on the white supremacy system but I put a lot of the blame on black women for refusing to properly groom themselves and treat their bodies good.
Posted by Bettyboo (Member # 12987) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: Why do you say that? Do you think that if white men sought out black women, black women would give them the same opportunity as black men?
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo: It is a good thing that white men prefer Asian and Latino as dating partners. That is a plus.
White men is the black man enemy and he runs the supremacy systems that blacks are subjugated under. It wouldn't make sense for a black women to date or marry or even lay up with a white man. White men and black women don't even get along. White men have to be in controlled of everything and they are very selfish and it is his duty as a supreme leader that comes first...not his wife or kids. Black women is too stronged willed for white men and it is never good when blacks sleep with their oppressors. I do believe if a trend starts where white men pursue black women those black women will give in quicker than lightning. A few will not but I think the majority would only because black women are desperate to be validated and only the white man can really do that since he holds the power and influence on the world.
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by homeylu:
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo:
quote:Originally posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye:
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: and they are not desireable to non-black men.
Bullshhit
She's telling the truth. Black women do prefer black men but I think it's because other men in general don't desire black women. They have no choice but to be loyal because their chances would be slim when picking a mate compare to other women.
How do you know that Recovering azzhole is a "she"? I always assumed it was a Haitian man.
If I was new Here I would have though she was a Girl too esp. with Her obsessesion with white men.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
This is what Ive been saying all along. Perhaps because it is coming from a female perspective they will heed the truth in what we are saying.
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo: black women are desperate to be validated and only the white man can really do that since he holds the power and influence on the world.
Posted by markellion (Member # 14131) on :
According to the Urban dictionary the term Honky came from Euro-American men lusting after African-American women
Represent the info. correctly. Number one, you are not supplying the etymology of the word, so the info. should be taken w/ a grain of salt. Number two, there are a number of possible alleged origins of the word, not just one. Number three, they were not lusting after AA women. They were going after AA hookers, for a cheap 5 min thrill.
quote:Originally posted by markellion: According to the Urban dictionary the term Honky came from Euro-American men lusting after African-American women
You seem bothered by this for some reason
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
It is not the information that bothers me. It is the dishonesty in scholarship members of this portal resort to in their effort to put forward their racial-political agenda. That right there irks the sh1t out of me.
Posted by Kalonji (Member # 17303) on :
Notice how Afro-holic changes his tone when Bettyboo pets him over his head like a little puppy, happy with the attention it receives.
Anyway, lets move on to bigger and better things.
quote: Originally posted by Homeylu: No I dont think so. Extensive study has gone into this. Oprah is a figure head she can pull the resources needed to pull it off. But she sure aint the brains behind it. Listen, let's face it, black men are just..... fvcked up. Black men, as exemplified on this board suffer some serious psychosis, mental disorders, mental illnesses... The pickings are slim for the sisters. I don't blame them. Why spend the rest of your life alone? Broaden your options.
I hear this a lot. Black women are right in being mad or apprehensive towards black men in general for a lot of things. Not for dating outside our ''race'', everyone is free to do what they feel is right for them, but because we are probably the least respectful to our own women. As youths we objectivy our women, think it's cool to play them, leave them to raise our own children etc. listen to ''keep ya head up'' by Tupac. If you can get past his sometimes contradicting character, you will appreciate his lyrics, if you haven't heard it already. Anyway, the reason why I say WE above, instead of conveniently excluding myself is because most of us are, whether we realise it or not, participants in the behavioural patterns that are destructive to our own people/community.
The craziest thing is, where I'm from, I've noticed that when I go out, the chances that I end up fighting with another black person I don't even know, are way higher than me fighting with other ethnic groups I don't know. The chances that a black person is going to disrespect me when I'm walking in the mall with my girlfriend or with another girl that just as well could've been my girlfriend, by openly eyeballing her in front of me are way higher than other ethnic groups, I've actually noticed this. The chances that I end up bonding with a person outside of my original black social circle, now that I'm maturing and expanding, is with greater with non-blacks too. When I mention that I'm working on several of my projects, its like it either doesn't interest them, or they just look at me weird or suprised. But when I mention it in my other, more ethnically varied social circle, their eyes light up, I get positive responses etc. It makes me think of the ridicule and weird facial expressions Venus and Serena Williams got for playing tennis when they were young. It's like we aren't even allowing ourself to evolve, because of our own negative behavioural attitudes towards growth.
How many of us have heard the saying ''In the hood, there are really three things you can become to get out of it, a drugs dealer, a rapper and a basketball player..? There is so much bogus in that statement, because is there not a need for doctors, lawyers, entrepeneurs etc for people in the ''hood''? When I started out on this journey with Diop, Drusilla Dunjee Houston and others, I had the tendency to think/act in the Afrocentrist extreme alot. I started out dating black women exclusively, I wasn't racist at all, but I just wanted to immerse myself in black culture and my own people. Then I realised that being ''conciouss'' really doesn't mean jackshit if you're among a very small group and that others don't even understand where you're coming from. I can remember calling this beautiful black girl I was dating ''my queen'', and she thought I did it because I was supplementing, like I was sucking up to her!! LOL.. if she only knew.. had to correct her quick! Then I had this total black fruitcake tell me how I shouldn't wear red, yellow and green colors in my rasta hat because ''I'm not Ethiopian'', not knowing that these colours are found on African flags in general. So now I'm more to the middle of the spectrum where I used to be before I started out, just with more knowlegde about my African heritage. Funny how everything comes full circle....
Kalonji
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by markellion: You seem bothered by this for some reason
Maybe It upsets him that white men don't find his arse attractive..LMAO
HE seems to obseess over white Men, maybe you or king can hook up with the Haitian Homo..LMAO(King is going to have a fit at my comment). Posted by The Explorer (Member # 14778) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic:
Truth hurts don't it (LOL).
I guess so; is that not why you constantly whinin' here?
quote:
The predominant skin tone of African Negroes fall under the 27+ range on the Luschan scale.
"Predominant" is an empty term. Your "African Negroes" is invalid. The map clearly busts your wishful thinking that 'whites' make up the majority of the world. End of story.
quote: Sorry buddy, but like I said - the majority of people on the planet or either light or white skin.
"Light skin" is another empty word, that is essentially a euphemism for what is not "white". Your case is dismissed.
quote:
Oh yea! Thanks for providing the scale (LOL)!
You are welcome. Problem is, you are too dense to make any use of it.
Posted by King_Scorpion (Member # 4818) on :
And guess again, who is advocating for? Yes, Oprah et al. BTW, have they ever wondered maybe all the good men they are looking for are in prinson?
Just thinking
I think ya'll blowin this **** outta proporation. First of all, the article is slanted for women which is always the case. It's always the guys fault that relationships fail or never happen. WHO CHOOSES the relationships in the first place? It's not the men...it's the women. But now you're seeing the effects of so many young Black males never having a father figure in their life. Women have their issues too though, especially Black women.
But Black men need to take more responsibility in how they're being portrayed. Where are the young Denzel's and Don Cheadle's of the world? The young intellectuals? Something Black men used to take pride in. It's been hijacked by goofy butt club bop fashion and other things. We have to get back to our serious roots...it's dumb to reject it. Because it's what got us here in the first place. A place I see a ray of hope in is actually in promoting Black art.
1. Bring back REAL MUSIC! I'm beginning to feel like rap music is at the end of its run. This **** is getting really stale now. There's not really even a such thing as gangsta rap anymore. The big artists are only making club bopping songs. The problem with this though is that we have to acknowledge Blacks no longer own Hip-Hop. If we did, I don't see it going down the path it has gone. The genre has been heavily watered-down and lacks the soul it used to have.
2. We can NEVER forget about our history. I was on Youtube late last night and came across a segment where this guy found ruins all over South Africa that he claims are part of a metropolis site that is connected to Great Zimbabwe. He's South African and wrote a book called Adam's Calendar or something. Anyway, the guy believes the site in 75,000 years old. But that's really moot because he doesn't even seem to believe they were built by Blacks. He goes on and on talking about links to Indus Valley Civilization, Egypt, China...but not mention of the fact that the entire area is filled with Blacks and always has been. I'm convinced instead of other-worldly origins, he's simply found ruins of Monomatopa. He believes there may be some 500 gold mines all over the region that they used (which is probably an exxageration because there was a gold rush and some of those mines could have been built by more recent folk).
The point I'm getting at is that if we ignore our past, don't count on outside forces with their own agendas coming along to write honestly about it. Black historians already aren't given the time of day. Some folks won't hesitate to fantisize Black history. The ruins are remnants of Monomatopa and Great Zimbabwe...not some "lost civilization." And the ruins probably weren't even excavated. He claims to have done all this research over the years and the book is only 128 pages long! It's wasn't lost it was forgotten and he's just the first man to give a damn about them.
Then we get to the Timbuktu Manuscripts. Which had they been found in Egypt or Israel or some place would be rushed to be preserved by every major institution in the world. But no...we're talking about Black Africans here (Black African MUSLIMS at that). So all these years go by and they still struggle to even preserve all these relics, much less have them translated and copied.
So while we over here dancing and drinking and getting run over in the media, our history is on the verge of disappearing into dust...literally. We aren't being told the truth, about anything. You think they want Blacks knowing about their glorious past? History is told by the victors. I give credit to organizations like the BBC. At least they make decent attempts.
The Lost Kingdoms of Africa - Great Zimbabwe - BBC 4
What is said above is just something to start with.
Posted by The Explorer (Member # 14778) on :
quote:Originally posted by KING:
All I was reading on this thread made it seem like Black Women were being forced to date, marry outside their race. Thats just wrong, never force anyone to do something like that.
Not so much as being forced, but attempt to brainwash them into accepting the reactionary propaganda. The Washington Post commentary is essentially tacitly telling them to put their emotions, you know -- like the feeling of affection for a significant other, on the back burner for materialistic cravings, along with the vindictive motives like, essentially "putting the heat on the brothas" in an effort to lure them to dating "their own kind".
Posted by The Gaul (Member # 16198) on :
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo:
quote:Originally posted by homeylu:
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo:
quote:Originally posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye:
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: and they are not desireable to non-black men.
Bullshhit
She's telling the truth. Black women do prefer black men but I think it's because other men in general don't desire black women. They have no choice but to be loyal because their chances would be slim when picking a mate compare to other women.
How do you know that Recovering azzhole is a "she"? I always assumed it was a Haitian man.
I don't know his or hers gender but she is telling the truth. Black women is forced to be loyal because she would be left with nothing. Black women aren't 'desired' by men in general. You can blame it on the white supremacy system but I put a lot of the blame on black women for refusing to properly groom themselves and treat their bodies good.
Exactly who says black women "aren't desired" by men in general? If you are a black woman, try walking alone anywhere in Italy, or the white areas in South Africa. I myself have only ever dated black women by choice.
As for the rest of your comments, it's in line with all the other purely retarded statements you make on this site and the exact opposite of reality regarding grooming or anything that has to do with cleanliness and looks.
This post is just to expose the less intelligent posters to a pattern.
On one hand they say no one likes or wants black people.
Then on the other hand give them the next topic and they'll claim that every black person's daddy or granddaddy is white because white men couldn't keep their eyes and hands off black women.
These freaks change their race dogma every 5 minutes.
Posted by argyle104 (Member # 14634) on :
The Gaul wrote: ----------------------------------- -----------------------------------
Damn, you're weak. You're actually trying to validate yourself to those freaks. Low self-esteem much?
Posted by The Gaul (Member # 16198) on :
quote:Originally posted by argyle104: The Gaul wrote: ----------------------------------- -----------------------------------
Damn, you're weak. You're actually trying to validate yourself to those freaks. Low self-esteem much?
Not at all. Just regular internet jibberish not to be taken so seriously. No life much?
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kalonji: Notice how Afro-holic changes his tone when Bettyboo pets him over his head like a little puppy, happy with the attention it receives.
Anyway, lets move on to bigger and better things.
quote: Originally posted by Homeylu: No I dont think so. Extensive study has gone into this. Oprah is a figure head she can pull the resources needed to pull it off. But she sure aint the brains behind it. Listen, let's face it, black men are just..... fvcked up. Black men, as exemplified on this board suffer some serious psychosis, mental disorders, mental illnesses... The pickings are slim for the sisters. I don't blame them. Why spend the rest of your life alone? Broaden your options.
I hear this a lot. Black women are right in being mad or apprehensive towards black men in general for a lot of things. Not for dating outside our ''race'', everyone is free to do what they feel is right for them, but because we are probably the least respectful to our own women. As youths we objectivy our women, think it's cool to play them, leave them to raise our own children etc. listen to ''keep ya head up'' by Tupac. If you can get past his sometimes contradicting character, you will appreciate his lyrics, if you haven't heard it already. Anyway, the reason why I say WE above, instead of conveniently excluding myself is because most of us are, whether we realise it or not, participants in the behavioural patterns that are destructive to our own people/community.
The craziest thing is, where I'm from, I've noticed that when I go out, the chances that I end up fighting with another black person I don't even know, are way higher than me fighting with other ethnic groups I don't know. The chances that a black person is going to disrespect me when I'm walking in the mall with my girlfriend or with another girl that just as well could've been my girlfriend, by openly eyeballing her in front of me are way higher than other ethnic groups, I've actually noticed this. The chances that I end up bonding with a person outside of my original black social circle, now that I'm maturing and expanding, is with greater with non-blacks too. When I mention that I'm working on several of my projects, its like it either doesn't interest them, or they just look at me weird or suprised. But when I mention it in my other, more ethnically varied social circle, their eyes light up, I get positive responses etc. It makes me think of the ridicule and weird facial expressions Venus and Serena Williams got for playing tennis when they were young. It's like we aren't even allowing ourself to evolve, because of our own negative behavioural attitudes towards growth.
How many of us have heard the saying ''In the hood, there are really three things you can become to get out of it, a drugs dealer, a rapper and a basketball player..? There is so much bogus in that statement, because is there not a need for doctors, lawyers, entrepeneurs etc for people in the ''hood''? When I started out on this journey with Diop, Drusilla Dunjee Houston and others, I had the tendency to think/act in the Afrocentrist extreme alot. I started out dating black women exclusively, I wasn't racist at all, but I just wanted to immerse myself in black culture and my own people. Then I realised that being ''conciouss'' really doesn't mean jackshit if you're among a very small group and that others don't even understand where you're coming from. I can remember calling this beautiful black girl I was dating ''my queen'', and she thought I did it because I was supplementing, like I was sucking up to her!! LOL.. if she only knew.. had to correct her quick! Then I had this total black fruitcake tell me how I shouldn't wear red, yellow and green colors in my rasta hat because ''I'm not Ethiopian'', not knowing that these colours are found on African flags in general. So now I'm more to the middle of the spectrum where I used to be before I started out, just with more knowlegde about my African heritage. Funny how everything comes full circle....
Kalonji
What's your problem? Why did you "TYPE" my user id as quoting this non-sense? When nowhere in any of my posts will you find such a quote from me. It's obvious that it was typed, as my user I.D. appears with a capital letter in your post, when in fact it begins with a lower cased "h"..homeylu, and not Homeylu.
As anyone that knows me will know I will NEVER say any shyt like this about my husband/father/son "black men are just..... fvcked up. Black men, as exemplified on this board suffer some serious psychosis, mental disorders, mental illnesses... The pickings are slim for the sisters. I don't blame them. Why spend the rest of your life alone? Broaden your options."
Posted by KING (Member # 9422) on :
homeylu
Mental Illness and psychosis are serious issues facing all people in the human race.
It's the stigmas of these people why some women don't give them a fair shake. If women only knew that men with these issues can live a normal and healthy life, then women would not think they are better then these men. Love should not limit people to only those who are able to hide there problems better then others because we all go through problems. Give these men a chance.
Peace
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by KING: homeylu
Mental Illness and psychosis are serious issues facing all people in the human race.
It's the stigmas of these people why some women don't give them a fair shake. If women only knew that men with these issues can live a normal and healthy life, then women would not think they are better then these men. Love should not limit people to only those who are able to hide there problems better then others because we all go through problems. Give these men a chance.
Peace
Please read, I DID NOT TYPE THIS!
Posted by KING (Member # 9422) on :
homeylu
I apologize. I should of known a person who has not said such insulting things would start now.
I hope you can forgive me.
Peace
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
No problem, but I don't even know WHO Kalonji is quoting, since I don't see it written anywhere in this thread. I personally would NEVER EVER EVER make such a debased general statement about Black men, I love them too much! Posted by Grumman (Member # 14051) on :
Jari-ankhamun:
''I never said they would turn people gay I said INDOCTINATING THEM.''
My bad I thought you and Melaninking were suggesting it could lead to massive displacement of heterosexuals. Oh, and it was you two who brought this topic up.
''Getting them to accept an unnatural lifestyle. Such as alternative sex in school. Sex Ed is bad enough but now Gay Sex will be taught?? Man oh man. [url= [url= http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58130''[/b]]http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58130''[/url]http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58130''[/b]]ht tp://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58130''[/url][/b][/URL]
See, when you badger a group of people unnecessarily (in the beginning) they win a few victories and now they want more. All because of the intense dislike directed at them. Fight on buddy.
No need to agitate yourself about Melaninking's comment on homosexuality starting in ancient Greece. Greeks have Arican blood therefore Africans aren't free of this alternative lifestyle either. Just thought I would clear that up.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
Only people that suffer from low self-esteem or lack thereof needs an outsider to validate their self-worth and/or standards of beauty.
Beauty standards change from season to season, just like other trends. Only the insiders who are there to specifically market their products are in control of who the next target group will be. If they wanted to sell "hair dyes" then they would market "blondes" as the standard of beauty. They would market full lips so that some Plastic surgeon could line his pockets.
You can't market tanning products where the population is already tanned, so the method would be to market skin lightening creams and the such.
No wonder women of all races buy into these schemes, they are not consciously aware of what is called "social conditioning" in advertising.
Posted by Kalonji (Member # 17303) on :
quote: Originally posted by homeylu: What's your problem? Why did you "TYPE" my user id as quoting this non-sense? When nowhere in any of my posts will you find such a quote from me. It's obvious that it was typed, as my user I.D. appears with a capital letter in your post, when in fact it begins with a lower cased "h"..homeylu, and not Homeylu.
Dude, slow down.. I didn't make up nothing, I put your name in a quote that was not yours.. apologise for that. Don't start accusing me of typing something to badmouth you.. it was a mistake.. ever heard of that? When you read the content of my post it's clear I said nothing negative about you, I just quoted it with your name sorry..
Kalonji
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by Grumman: Jari-ankhamun:
''I never said they would turn people gay I said INDOCTINATING THEM.''
My bad I thought you and Melaninking were suggesting it could lead to massive displacement of heterosexuals. Oh, and it was you two who brought this topic up.
See, when you badger a group of people unnecessarily (in the beginning) they win a few victories and now they want more. All because of the intense dislike directed at them. Fight on buddy.
No need to agitate yourself about Melaninking's comment on homosexuality starting in ancient Greece. Greeks have Arican blood therefore Africans aren't free of this alternative lifestyle either. Just thought I would clear that up.
Actually M.K brought up the Homosexuality, you can go see for yourself. I gave my opinion on the matter..
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
Homeylu and Kalonji the person that made that quote was afronut..
Here is the full quote
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic:
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: But one thing I noticed, these young girls with their weaves and contacts still seem to prefer their black men. I don't see them stepping to white boys.
I already explained why and the studies back me up - white man do not engage black women for a serious relationship. White men aren't trying to get with black women on that level and sisters know this. When a black man is interested in a white woman, he courts her. This is a general rule for all men. You speak as if women initiate the courtship.
quote: In fact the brothas still have the overwhelming edge when mating with white women.
Of course because black men find white women desirable and go for it. White men dont engage black women, but they do go after the china girls.
quote: This new "push" is probably just pay back.
No I dont think so. Extensive study has gone into this. Oprah is a figure head she can pull the resources needed to pull it off. But she sure aint the brains behind it. Listen, let's face it, black men are just..... fvcked up. Black men, as exemplified on this board suffer some serious psychosis, mental disorders, mental illnesses... The pickings are slim for the sisters. I don't blame them. Why spend the rest of your life alone? Broaden your options.
Honestly I don't know why he would make a comment like that considering he is a man?? LMAO
Posted by Kalonji (Member # 17303) on :
^thats why I confused that post for homeylu..
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kalonji:
quote: Originally posted by homeylu: What's your problem? Why did you "TYPE" my user id as quoting this non-sense? When nowhere in any of my posts will you find such a quote from me. It's obvious that it was typed, as my user I.D. appears with a capital letter in your post, when in fact it begins with a lower cased "h"..homeylu, and not Homeylu.
Dude, slow down.. I didn't make up nothing, I put your name in a quote that was not yours.. apologise for that. Don't start accusing me of typing something to badmouth you.. it was a mistake.. ever heard of that? When you read the content of my post it's clear I said nothing negative about you, I just quoted it with your name sorry..
Kalonji
Ok apology accepted , just wanted it to be clear that I didn't make such a statement.
BTW, I'm a dudette. Posted by Kalonji (Member # 17303) on :
aight then.. Posted by Bettyboo (Member # 12987) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Gaul:
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo:
quote:Originally posted by homeylu:
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo:
quote:Originally posted by GbohunOla Karelaiye:
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: and they are not desireable to non-black men.
Bullshhit
She's telling the truth. Black women do prefer black men but I think it's because other men in general don't desire black women. They have no choice but to be loyal because their chances would be slim when picking a mate compare to other women.
How do you know that Recovering azzhole is a "she"? I always assumed it was a Haitian man.
I don't know his or hers gender but she is telling the truth. Black women is forced to be loyal because she would be left with nothing. Black women aren't 'desired' by men in general. You can blame it on the white supremacy system but I put a lot of the blame on black women for refusing to properly groom themselves and treat their bodies good.
Exactly who says black women "aren't desired" by men in general? If you are a black woman, try walking alone anywhere in Italy, or the white areas in South Africa. I myself have only ever dated black women by choice.
As for the rest of your comments, it's in line with all the other purely retarded statements you make on this site and the exact opposite of reality regarding grooming or anything that has to do with cleanliness and looks.
The comments aren't retarded and in general black women aren't desired over other races of women. On average, if a man date outside of his race the chances are it is not a black woman. That is what Alcoholic is saying and I agree with him/her. You can nitpick at all the men who desire to screw black women that looks good and takes care of her body and has real hair, but the fact is men in general will not pick a black women before a hispanic, Asian, India, white, Arab, Turk, etc... I don't think anything is wrong with it so I don't know why people have to argue it. Alcoholic is just telling the truth and I'm not going to pretend like I don't know what he/she is talking about.
Posted by Bettyboo (Member # 12987) on :
quote:Originally posted by homeylu: Only people that suffer from low self-esteem or lack thereof needs an outsider to validate their self-worth and/or standards of beauty.
Beauty standards change from season to season, just like other trends.
I think you are describing both black men and black women since they suffer greatly from low self-esteem and it is always those two groups that looks for validation outside their group. Beauty standards doesn't change from season to season. Since white supremacy conquer the standard of beauty is that of white or close to it.
Posted by Kalonji (Member # 17303) on :
quote: Originally posted by Bettyboo: I think you are describing both black men and black women since they suffer greatly from low self-esteem and it is always those two groups that looks for validation outside their group. Beauty standards doesn't change from season to season. Since white supremacy conquer the standard of beauty is that of white or close to it.
^Last time I checked, black people scored higher on self esteem tests than Asians and Europeans. You know what that means right? It means that you're just talking out the side of your neck. If you're going to generalise about whole populations, to make one population somehow better than another, please make sure you're statements are factual. Otherwise I'm going to have to let some studies do the talking, and you don't want that.
Just drop the ''lower self esteem'' issue and exit gracefully while you still can.
Thank you.
Kalonji
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
Bettyboo,
I hope by now you realize that you are dealing with a bunch of schitzophrenic (s/p?) people on this board. They will argue of the social injustices, white supramacy indoctrination and the negative lingering effects of slavery of black people. Yet when you point out the black inferiority machinations contrived by the European powers that they use to indoctrinate black people to self-hate, these nutcases will pretend, neither the ploy nor the ramifications behind it exist. Just read the reply below yours.
It is quite evident these loons are not dealing with a full deck. The mental illness they exhibit is called "Split personality dis-order," a branch of schitzophrenia (s/p?).
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo: I think you are describing both black men and black women since they suffer greatly from low self-esteem and it is always those two groups that looks for validation outside their group. Beauty standards doesn't change from season to season. Since white supremacy conquer the standard of beauty is that of white or close to it.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo: I think you are describing both black men and black women since they suffer greatly from low self-esteem and it is always those two groups that looks for validation outside their group. Beauty standards doesn't change from season to season. Since white supremacy conquer the standard of beauty is that of white or close to it.
I can only presume that you make such blank statements as an attempt to be educated, so I’ll oblige.
Black people have long suffered from a condition termed the “Willie Lynch” syndrome. It is a hypnotic state of seemingly unconsciousness. During this state, the mind is induced to alter its state of awareness; the sensitivities have been oppressed.
On the other hand people with self-esteem issues are “overly” conscious and clearly perceptive of their self-worth. They are often insecure, resentful of their own self-image, and fear social rejection.(They will exhibit such behavior as creating a whole slew of irrelevant topics as their dire need for attention intensifies each time they experience defeat/rejection )
A person’s consciousness can be raised through all aspects of his life, by seeking who he/she is, and you cannot do that without being aware of where you came from. You may not appreciate all that you discover on this journey, but the point is that you ARE becoming more aware of who you are, and your place in this magnificent universe. The human organ responsible for raising one’s consciousness would be the “brain”. The human organ responsible for raising one’s self-esteem would be the “heart” this person has to be taught to love her/himself and all facets; self image, self worth and the like.
While namely Black Americans can suffer from the Willie Lynch Syndrome, people of all races can suffer from low self-esteem. How often do you read about white women endangering their health with eating disorders because her S.O. called her “fat”, getting breast implants and other risky surgeries to “improve” her self-image because she was teased for being “flat-chested“?
Bottom-line, Bettyboo, Black women are very much consciously aware of the Oppressor, that even the lower stratums of our social hierarchy, for example, “hookers” can only term them as nothing more than “TRICKS” and would rather be validated by a lowly pimp, than a “peckerwood“ (taken from the Ice Berg Slim archives ) any day!
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
Recovering makes some good points. Modern blacks are no more tied to slavery than I am. In this world you either function as an individual or you do not function at all. Life is never fair but it hs to be lived. To sit around and whine about white people, make up history (as they attempt to do on egyptsearch) or bemoan their status serves no black person. You go out and do the best you can.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: Recovering makes some good points. Modern blacks are no more tied to slavery than I am. In this world you either function as an individual or you do not function at all. Life is never fair but it hs to be lived. To sit around and whine about white people, make up history (as they attempt to do on egyptsearch) or bemoan their status serves no black person. You go out and do the best you can.
^ Says the card-holding member of the so-called "privileged" race. When you and others like you are ready to face the reality that you attained a certain status due to the mere melanin-less content of your skin, and NOT by sheer merit alone, then you speak to me about how "fair" life is.
Your entire being is based off fear. Fear of the re-distribution of wealth and losing your ill-gotten material gains. Fear of members of another race, attaining the power that you have monopolized for so long. Fear is what drives your racism, and racism is still alive and well, it's time for you to raise your own level of consciousness and look at your damn self in the mirror!
Posted by xyyman (Member # 13597) on :
I was itching . . said I wouldn't post anymore. Thanks for stepping up. Just about to say where the sista's at!!! Having these punk get away with what they are saying was getting to me. Imagine of all people Betty-boo talking about low-self-esteem sista's. Give me a break!!! We are the FIRST man. We are the children of Ra. . We don't have low self esteem. Some may need to be de-programmed but low self esteem. Never met a sista who didn't think she was cute.
quote:Originally posted by homeylu:
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo: I think you are describing both black men and black women since they suffer greatly from low self-esteem and it is always those two groups that looks for validation outside their group. Beauty standards doesn't change from season to season. Since white supremacy conquer the standard of beauty is that of white or close to it.
I can only presume that you make such blank statements as an attempt to be educated, so I’ll oblige.
Black people have long suffered from a condition termed the “Willie Lynch” syndrome. It is a hypnotic state of seemingly unconsciousness. During this state, the mind is induced to alter its state of awareness; the sensitivities have been oppressed.
On the other hand people with self-esteem issues are “overly” conscious and clearly perceptive of their self-worth. They are often insecure, resentful of their own self-image, and fear social rejection.(They will exhibit such behavior as creating a whole slew of irrelevant topics as their dire need for attention intensifies each time they experience defeat/rejection )
A person’s consciousness can be raised through all aspects of his life, by seeking who he/she is, and you cannot do that without being aware of where you came from. You may not appreciate all that you discover on this journey, but the point is that you ARE becoming more aware of who you are, and your place in this magnificent universe. The human organ responsible for raising one’s consciousness would be the “brain”. The human organ responsible for raising one’s self-esteem would be the “heart” this person has to be taught to love her/himself and all facets; self image, self worth and the like.
While namely Black Americans can suffer from the Willie Lynch Syndrome, people of all races can suffer from low self-esteem. How often do you read about white women endangering their health with eating disorders because her S.O. called her “fat”, getting breast implants and other risky surgeries to “improve” her self-image because she was teased for being “flat-chested“?
Bottom-line, Bettyboo, Black women are very much consciously aware of the Oppressor, that even the lower stratums of our social hierarchy, for example, “hookers” can only term them as nothing more than “TRICKS” and would rather be validated by a lowly pimp, than a “peckerwood“ (taken from the Ice Berg Slim archives ) any day!
Posted by MelaninKing (Member # 17444) on :
The fact is, White men do find sistas attractive. The truth is, white men are AFRAID of black women because;
1. They are too dominating 2. They are far too much women
White boys like their women with little tiny asses that look like little boys. This gives them the impression they can dominate over these little broads, plus it feeds their latent homosexual urges. Can anyone say; Unisex? Never popular in the black community, but HUGE in the white community. Can you say, David Bowie, Alice Cooper, or Marilyn Manson! All combined no more then 1 million records sold over the last 30 years in black market.
Plus, white men know that if they mate and have a child, it will be black. If it were reversed and white was the dominate color and the baby would come out white (albino), white boys would be all over our women and there would be a race riot. LOL.
Posted by Grumman (Member # 14051) on :
Jari-ankhamun:
''Actually M.K brought up the Homosexuality, you can go see for yourself. I gave my opinion on the matter..''
Yes I was aware Melaninking did bring it up initially and that you offered an opinion in response. So did I. Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
Here is a clinical case of a split personality dis-order (xyyman). This person first says low self esteem does not exist among black people (specifically black women) but then turns around in a matter of seconds and says some black people (specifically black women) need to be deprogrammed of their low self-esteem. This person is living two realities; in one reality black people have no low self-esteem and in the other reality they do (LOL).
This is a classic schitzophrenic dis-order (I really need to learn how to spell that word, if Im gonna be using it often now LOL).
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: We don't have low self esteem. Some may need to be de-programmed but low self esteem.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
Here is another clinical case of split personality disorder:
quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing: The fact is, White men do find sistas attractive.
quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing: White boys like their women with little tiny asses that look like little boys.
The patient is confused -- on the one hand he claims white men are attracted to sistas (with obvious implications; big behinds) and then he contrasts this with the claim that white men are attracted to women with tiny asses. Again, this is an example of a schitzophrenic living two realities -- in one reality white men like big butts, hence attraction to black women. In another reality white men like tiny butts, hence negating black women from the pool of attraction.
Posted by MelaninKing (Member # 17444) on :
For the slow, allow me to simplify.
We don't always pursue what we want or need. FEAR forces us to make inferior alternative choices. We are all aware that White people are full of FEAR and constantly shaking in the boots and pissing their panties (Unisex). FEAR is their primary motivator. Hence, the GOP repeatedly using the threat of TERRORISM to push White Americans down a desired path. White America falls for it every single time. Example: Iraq, and now, Iran. Note: Black people don't fall for the FEAR crap. We ALL voted NO for the Iraq war.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
^The quote feature is a stinger! aint it? It is hard to redit one's mistake when he/she has been quoted by another source aint it (LOL). It does not help in covering one's track!
Posted by MelaninKing (Member # 17444) on :
Doesn't diminish the message, at all! Now ain't that a B!
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
But it definitely reveals the mental illness you suffer from. What is sad is you are probably in denial of your split personality dis-oder, even after exposing it to you. Oh! the wonders of the quote feature, Godsend aint it (LOL)!
quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing: Doesn't diminish the message, at all! Now ain't that a B!
Posted by xyyman (Member # 13597) on :
@ Recovered - You are really pushing my butttons. LOL!!! I am trying to stay clear of this conversation. Twisting my words sometimes does it. Name calling doesn't. LOL!. You got me there.
Bottom line - as MK posted there is a difference between low self esteem and deprogramming. As Homely pointed out black women do NOT want a white man. They don't want to be accepted by white men.
Gaaad!! I am bored!!
I am out.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
No one twisted your words fool! YOURE QUOTED! RFLOL!!!!!!!!!
You guys are the best! (at being the worst). So there is a difference between a person of low self-esteem and a person that needs to be deprogrammed of their low self-esteem. You are killing me mang! (sic)
YOU GUYS ARE THE GREATEST! GO DOWN W/THE SINKING SHIP CAPTAIN OF SPLIT PERSONALITY DIS-ORDER (LOL)!
Posted by MelaninKing (Member # 17444) on :
^ LOL, that's exactly what we are trying to avoid. Going down with the sinking ship called America with blind, drunken, Maniac depressed pilots at the helm.
Oh, did I mention that according to CDC data (2009) White males lead the charge as America's number 1 (by 10 orders of magnitude) Maniac depression group (most all on Prozac), which also results in white males being the number 1 (by 10 order of magnitude again) US leaders of suicide by handgun.
LOL, no wonder white males love their guns so much. It's your pre-paid ticket straight to hell. Perhaps this is one of the many reasons why black females find ya'll unattractive. Sorry, I don't mean to upset you. Hopefully, there isn't a hand gun near by. LAMO!!
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
Throwback post:
quote: Originally posted by MelaninKing: The fact is, White men do find sistas attractive.
quote: Originally posted by MelaninKing: White boys like their women with little tiny asses that look like little boys.
The patient is confused -- on the one hand he claims white men are attracted to sistas (with obvious implications; big behinds) and then he contrasts this with the claim that white men are attracted to women with tiny asses. Again, this is an example of a schitzophrenic living two realities -- in one reality white men like big butts, hence attraction to black women. In another reality white men like tiny butts, hence negating black women from the pool of attraction.
Posted by Truthcentric (Member # 3735) on :
quote: Originally posted by Truthcentric: Something for both the black woman-bashers and the anti-interracial dating people to ponder over: marriages between black women and white men are more successful than marriages between white men and white women, black men and black women, or black men and white women.
Truthcentric, Thanks for that bit of information, very interesting. I too have noticed this unconciously, and now that you've made me aware of it, even more cases pop up mentally where the above proved true. Thats why I could care less about black women dating interacially. If they're able to find their happiness with other ethnicities, they have my blessing. Halle Berry tried it with both Wesley Snipes and Eric Benet before dating Gabriel Aubrey and both of them acted like ignorant wife beating and wife cheating archtypes respectively. Eddy murphey too made me crinch with his behaviour towards Melany B. Like I said in my previous post, diasporal black men are damaged, and black women have alot to complain about in black males, and righfully so. I rather see them do that than have the ongoing patterns of negative behaviour passed on to our next generations. Not to say that said negative behaviour isn't manifested in white communities, but because of their long history of uninterrupted customs, religion and social values, the patterns for a succesfull marriage are engrained more in them than in members of the African diaspora. BTW the destructive behavioural patterns of diasporal black males that cause agitation and seperation are so predictable, anyone who listens to relation related lamentation songs in R&B and Soul knows this. That is why it doesn't surprise me that marriages with ethnicities where those same predictable patterns are present in a lower frequencies, can result in more enduring black/white marriages, where the female is black. The fact that the same praiseworthy statistics are not present when the black individual is a male, is compatible with this view.
Kalonji
Posted by The Explorer (Member # 14778) on :
I commend your contentious efforts to putting the "black women are least desirable" gobbledygook to rest. However, I think one might be a bit rash in suggesting that 'white' male and 'black female' unions are more successful than that between 'white' males and 'white' females, and likewise, between 'black' males and 'white' females. I think things have to be put into perspective: for one, 'white' male-'black' female unions are less frequent than the latter. Just to give you an idea of this, take the high profile examples of the entertainment industry for instance:
Take, the following celebrities...Dorothy Dandridge, Diahann Carroll, Whoopi Goldberg, Ertha Kitt, La Toya Jackson, or Donna Summer for example. These 'sistas' hooked up with 'white' fellows, whom they ended up doing away with. Some of these women have even hooked up with multiple 'white' male partners, ensuing in relationships that have all gone bad. Take Whoopi, for instance, who parted away from Ted Dansen, David Claessen, Lyle Trachtenberg, and Frank Langella -- all 'white' fellows. Donna Summer's first hubby was Telmuth Sommer -- 'white' fellow. I think Diahann Carroll too parted ways with more than one 'white' male partner, one of whom was Vic Damone. The point is, shouldn't the frequency of "interracial" unions be taken into consideration, because one doesn't have to go far to see examples of *unsuccessful* 'white' male and 'black' female relationships -- just look to public figures, like the examples given.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
Personally I think most celebrity marriages are doomed to failure, with of course a few exceptions.
I actually read the Blog Truthcentric posted, and believe that this is EXACTLY the type of propaganda the original thread was about, before we all got side-tracked with Recovering's exaggerated proclamations.
The author of this blog is clearly trying to steer sisters to change their preference for Black men, most of what she writes is very negative towards the brothers. Talking about a "disgruntled" sister She wrote,for example;
"You know, I do so believe that even if you give black men 'little green women' from Mars, they'd still find a way to mess it up royaly."
Claiming that White women married to Black men have complained about too much stress in their marriage, and trying to assure that this is not the case in BW/WM relationships.
She clearly does not focus on successful BW/BM relationships, as she is biased in trying to sell her book;
Again, I don't think this propaganda will succeed, as someone stated earlier, the Black woman is the protectors of our race (socially that is).
Posted by Truthcentric (Member # 3735) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Explorer: Take, the following celebrities...Dorothy Dandridge, Diahann Carroll, Whoopi Goldberg, Ertha Kitt, La Toya Jackson, or Donna Summer for example. These 'sistas' hooked up with 'white' fellows, whom they ended up doing away with. Some of these women have even hooked up with multiple 'white' male partners, ensuing in relationships that have all gone bad. Take Whoopi, for instance, who parted away from Ted Dansen, David Claessen, Lyle Trachtenberg, and Frank Langella -- all 'white' fellows. Donna Summer's first hubby was Telmuth Sommer -- 'white' fellow. I think Diahann Carroll too parted ways with more than one 'white' male partner, one of whom was Vic Damone. The point is, shouldn't the frequency of "interracial" unions be taken into consideration, because one doesn't have to go far to see examples of *unsuccessful* 'white' male and 'black' female relationships -- just look to public figures, like the examples given.
So, to challenge the conclusions drawn from the data I posted, you only have anecdotal evidence concerning celebrities?
My point was not that there are no unsuccessful WM/BW marriages or unions. My point is that, on average, WM/BW marriages are more successful than WM/WW, BM/BW, or BM/WW marriages.
Posted by Truthcentric (Member # 3735) on :
quote:Originally posted by homeylu: Personally I think most celebrity marriages are doomed to failure, with of course a few exceptions.
I actually read the Blog Truthcentric posted, and believe that this is EXACTLY the type of propaganda the original thread was about, before we all got side-tracked with Recovering's exaggerated proclamations.
The author of this blog is clearly trying to steer sisters to change their preference for Black men, most of what she writes is very negative towards the brothers. Talking about a "disgruntled" sister She wrote,for example;
"You know, I do so believe that even if you give black men 'little green women' from Mars, they'd still find a way to mess it up royaly."
Claiming that White women married to Black men have complained about too much stress in their marriage, and trying to assure that this is not the case in BW/WM relationships.
She clearly does not focus on successful BW/BM relationships, as she is biased in trying to sell her book;
Again, I don't think this propaganda will succeed, as someone stated earlier, the Black woman is the protectors of our race (socially that is).
LOL All you have in response to facts is complaining about the source's alleged bias? That's like a Eurocentrist dismissing Keita by accusing him of "Afrocentrism". Furthermore, why is it wrong for someone to argue that BW should be more open-minded to dating white men?
Of course there are lots of successful marriages between BM and BW. That doesn't change the fact that, on average, WM/BW marriages are more stable than WM/WW, BM/BW, or BM/WW. It may paint an unflattering image of black men and white women, but it's true.
Interestingly, I showed the same data to a Neo-Nazi who wanted me to avoid dating black women, and he dismissed the source as being "Jewish propaganda".
Posted by Grumman (Member # 14051) on :
^ And what conclusions could be drawn from that ''study'' that anecdotal evidence posted above can't refute, i.e., Dandridge, Summer, et al? I didn't see anything in the way of how large a sample size was involved; a couple of percentages were thrown in but that's it. It may be there but I miissed it. Looks to me like a bunch of people on the link are doing nothing more than supporting their own realities rather than a comprehensive scientific study.
Posted by Grumman (Member # 14051) on :
Oh I did miss the ''study''. Now where are the sample sizes in the study?
Posted by MelaninKing (Member # 17444) on :
There really is no study. The truth is, the number of marriages of black women to white men is so small, it is insignificant. It is noise. However, I do believe, due to BET/RAP, and it's cross-over appeal for white male youth (75% revenue derived) we will certainly see an increase in this area as white youth continue attempting to emulate black males in saggy pants, and women.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
I actually agree w/your assessment, in part of course. If the media allows the hiphop crossover trend to continue then, yes, you will find an increase in generation 'Z' white youths seeking out black females. However, do you think the media will allow hiphop to dumb-down white boys to the point of no return? I really doubt that.
America is a capitalist country but, America, specifically white America also has traditional values. At the end of the day, tradition will trump capitalism. American is traditionally conservative. I believe they will pull the plug on the hiphop experiment; at-least in White America. Notice rap sells have plummeted these past few yrs. There is a reason for that you know. It is all by design.
quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing: There really is no study. The truth is, the number of marriages of black women to white men is so small, it is insignificant. It is noise. However, I do believe, due to BET/RAP, and it's cross-over appeal for white male youth (75% revenue derived) we will certainly see an increase in this area as white youth continue attempting to emulate black males in saggy pants, and women.
Posted by MissJennifer (Member # 16083) on :
quote:Asian and Hispanic women were not subjected to the historical abuse by White men as Black women have been, so they are obviously more willing to date/marry White men as a result.
As a young African American woman I have to disagree with this statement.
While, I am quite aware of the historical abuse by White men in the past because I make sure that I am educated about black history and history in general. I cannot relate to what black women went through hundreds of years ago. TODAY most white men are not raping or taking advantage of black women so most of the black wmoen in my age group are not using that as an excuse to date or not date outside their race. If anything I am more likely to be abused by a black man than a white man.
I am just tired of that excuse about what white men did hundreds of years ago to black women that are not here today being the reason why some black women dont date outside their race.
I most certainly wuold date outside my race if I by chance meet a white guy that I had similar interests with. But I don't live in an area where I have access to a lot of white men. I have had white men who had crushes on me before but they weren't my type and were much older
Posted by Kalonji (Member # 17303) on :
quote: Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: America is a capitalist country but, America, specifically white America also has traditional values. At the end of the day, tradition will trump capitalism. American is traditionally conservative. I believe they will pull the plug on the hiphop experiment; at-least in White America. Notice rap sells have plummeted these past few yrs. There is a reason for that you know. It is all by design.
All sales have plummeted in the past few years, if not, please show evidence of exclusive low sale rates of Hiphop music. And for your information, the top ten of the best sold albums of the decade contain several hip hop albums. The same goes for the Digital sales of singles. Add that to the fact that white people are predominantly responsible for (hip hop) album sales, and the fact that black people were dramatically overrepresented in the nominations and winnings of the past few VMA's and MA's, and your argument goes to complete waste.
I'm waiting for your data.
Kalonji
Posted by Truthcentric (Member # 3735) on :
quote:Originally posted by MissJennifer: As a young African American woman I have to disagree with this statement.
While, I am quite aware of the historical abuse by White men in the past because I make sure that I am educated about black history and history in general. I cannot relate to what black women went through hundreds of years ago. TODAY most white men are not raping or taking advantage of black women so most of the black wmoen in my age group are not using that as an excuse to date or not date outside their race. If anything I am more likely to be abused by a black man than a white man.
I am just tired of that excuse about what white men did hundreds of years ago to black women that are not here today being the reason why some black women dont date outside their race.
I too think it's unlikely that black women who are reticent about dating out are thinking about the slave era.
That said, I can't help but wonder if a lot of white men who go out with black women today are only using them for sex or otherwise taking advantage of them. There has to be a good reason some black women are wary of white men, so it seems likely to me that there is something many white men are doing that is scaring off black women.
Personally, I do not want a black woman just for sex. I am interested in a long-term relationship with her.
Posted by MissJennifer (Member # 16083) on :
quote:I too think it's unlikely that black women who are reticent about dating out are thinking about the slave era.
That said, I can't help but wonder if a lot of white men who go out with black women today are only using them for sex or otherwise taking advantage of them. There has to be a good reason some black women are wary of white men, so it seems likely to me that there is something many white men are doing that is scaring off black women.
Personally, I do not want a black woman just for sex. I am interested in a long-term relationship with her.
The claim that white men are using black women only for sex are just things people say to discourage black women from dating outside their race. Maybe from black men who don't want anybody else to want black women. I had a black male freind who used to call black women 'whores' and 'bedwinches' for even considering dating a white man. A black female friend of ours entered an LTR with a white man, and he was incredibly angry about this that he said that if he went over to visit her, and the white guy was there, he would instigate a fight with him. So he never visited her
People act as if black men don't use or take advantage of black women. It happens everyday with all of these single mothers out here left to raise children on their own. Or how many black women have found themselves nothing but a booty call to a black man or waited on one to marry her and he never did. So the reasoning that white men are only using black wmoen for sex is baloney. Any man is capable of that. These are just chances you take when you are looking for love, you may get used or taken advantage of along the way
Posted by Kalonji (Member # 17303) on :
^Personally, I think it's cultural. A lot of sisters think that only black men or ethnicities that are stereotypically known as ''cool'' like for example latino's can love them the way they want to be loved. Another point that black women may have against ethnicities (I personally have this too) is that the relationship between black people amongst themselves is natural. There are so many things black people don't have to explain to eachother that are just ''known''. It can be a source if irritation if things that are considered ''normal'' in one culture, are violated misunderstood and/or not practiced in the culture of the other partner. There is alot of power in knowing the cultural ins and outs of the girls you're interested in. Not to use it to impress her, that would be corny, but to avoid the pit falls and to be able to smoothen things out, and make her feel comfortable. Understanding without having to say a word speaks volumes. Some of my white friends that go out with me will have no problems dating black women, especially if the girls see them rolling with black people, very often they will just assume, oh, he is one of those cool guys.
And MissJennifer is right, only very rigid, rare black women will cockblock white people because of slavery. At least, that is my experience.
Kalonji
Posted by MissJennifer (Member # 16083) on :
you made good points Kalonj
to TruthCentric, I am curious what type of black women do you go for? what skin color, hairtype, features??
Posted by Truthcentric (Member # 3735) on :
quote:Originally posted by MissJennifer: to TruthCentric, I am curious what type of black women do you go for? what skin color, hairtype, features??
Here are some of my favorites to give you an idea of what I like:
Posted by Kalonji (Member # 17303) on :
You have good taste. I personally lean towards more narrow featured black women like Kerry Washington, Kelly rowland (recent) LOL, I don't know what she did to herself but ever since she split with destiny child I'm loving her more and more. I prefer her over Beyonce because of her personality, even though B shows more personality in her lyrics. I like Stacey Dash the most, I think I had a crush on her when I saw Clueless the first time. Anyway, these are types I tend be attracted to.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
Them skanks aint nothing on this sister. Man! she is blazing in the bikini!
That right there be some good prime ish!
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
Arwa, I tried to PM you something but your mailbox is full.
Posted by The Explorer (Member # 14778) on :
quote:Originally posted by Truthcentric:
So, to challenge the conclusions drawn from the data I posted, you only have anecdotal evidence concerning celebrities?
I'll have to assume that you have arrived at this assessment of my post, because you haven't *carefully* read it.
quote: My point was not that there are no unsuccessful WM/BW marriages or unions. My point is that, on average, WM/BW marriages are more successful than WM/WW, BM/BW, or BM/WW marriages.
How do you define "successful" here; on what paradigms? What *specifically* have you weighed between these groups to arrive at this, and how far demographically? This was the point of my post, and it would be nice to have those specifics.
Posted by The Explorer (Member # 14778) on :
quote:Originally posted by homeylu:
Personally I think most celebrity marriages are doomed to failure, with of course a few exceptions.
I have on hands personal examples that come to mind between such unions, but then, that would just amount to hearsay, an area I like to steer away from to the extent I can.
quote: I actually read the Blog Truthcentric posted, and believe that this is EXACTLY the type of propaganda the original thread was about, before we all got side-tracked with Recovering's exaggerated proclamations.
I can see how one can arrive at that, having read the study in the link provided in Truthcentric's link.
Here is a question that I sought to test with Truthcentric: Given that 'white male" and "black female" unions are less frequent than the other said unions, shouldn't one expect the *chances* of "parting ways" [I suppose, if that is a major gauge of "success" here <<shrug>>?] to be lower comparatively, when compared to the more frequent examples? Like others here, and myself, have observed, I guess, it will be clearer from knowing the extent of sample sizes, not only nationally but *internationally* where such unions are possible, over what specific time frames with their associated sample specifics, and the *specific* items weighed to determine what constitutes "success", as I can imagine this word being subjective according to interviewees. For you, this is just a rhetorical question, though you may chime in should you wish to do so.
Posted by The Explorer (Member # 14778) on :
quote:Originally posted by MissJennifer:
The claim that white men are using black women only for sex are just things people say to discourage black women from dating outside their race. Maybe from black men who don't want anybody else to want black women. I had a black male freind who used to call black women 'whores' and 'bedwinches' for even considering dating a white man. A black female friend of ours entered an LTR with a white man, and he was incredibly angry about this that he said that if he went over to visit her, and the white guy was there, he would instigate a fight with him. So he never visited her
You honestly think "black" males have that much power the screw the minds of "black" females to discourage them from having relationship with others outside of their so-called "race"? If that were possible, one would think that "white" males would be just as capable of socially-conditioning their female counterparts from having relationships with those outside their so-called "race".
quote: People act as if black men don't use or take advantage of black women. It happens everyday with all of these single mothers out here left to raise children on their own. Or how many black women have found themselves nothing but a booty call to a black man or waited on one to marry her and he never did. So the reasoning that white men are only using black wmoen for sex is baloney. Any man is capable of that. These are just chances you take when you are looking for love, you may get used or taken advantage of along the way
Well, there is certainly that problem of single-parents; I think it has to do with a host of socio-economic issues ranging from the inability to break away from pattern, like son being raised by a single mom household and going onto do the same with his future female partner, inadequate intra-community education schemes designed to reduce *early* age parenting that are bound to fail in the future -- hence, leaving mothers with children, generally economic disparity between "races" -- though inexcusable, with many male figures discouraged from raising kids, because they just don't have the financial means to raise a family, not to mention the prison populations that leave children in single-parent households, et al. I think societal structure contributes to these issues, even if not solely responsible.
Posted by zarahan (Member # 15718) on :
Good info, although the sweeping claims on some websites of a parallel situation where black women will eventually out-marry to the same extent as Asian women may not be warranted given the smaller numbers of BW/WM unions. Only time will tell. Nevertheless, this research contradicts claims (some advanced by the Mormon Church for example, among others) that interracial marriages are automatically "doomed" simply because they are interracial. According to this data, the BW/WM couplings posted a better showing than all-white "role models". The growth rate for such couplings BW/WM is actually higher than at present than for BM/WW. Will "aority" be achieved? Only time will tell.
The BMale/WFemale couplings rate is higher, and is the type of union most opposed by society. Social opposition for the B/W couples was also much higher than for other groups such as Hispanics and Asians the article notes. Generally the overall IR divorce rates are not that much higher than for white unions:
[quote]"For example, Bramlett and Mosher (2002) found that 41% of interracial couples divorced by the 10th year of marriage compared to only 31% of same-race couples.
Heaton's analysis using national survey data found that interracial marriages were 13% more likely than same-race marriages to divorce, after controlling for social and demographic background characteristics. Using a similar list of controls, Kreider (2000) reported that interracial marriages tended to have shorter durations, but she concluded that factors such as age at marriage and educational level have more impact on whether a marriage dissolves than couple-level racial dissimilarity."
Tables in the article weblink do not show, but the bm/wf pattern is significantly larger, with divorces twice as likely compared to white unions, although still lower than Asian male/white female unions. Other factors such as age play a part (the blacks married younger) in marriage dissolutions besides race the article notes.*edit* This higher risk pattern is well known, but the data in toto, including the female pattern, hardly supports the earth-shattering, apocalyptic tone we hear from certain quarters about automatically "doomed" interracial marriages where black folk are involved.
Strangely, stats for IR marriage actually show more stability for these couplings than same-race unions prior to 1980. "Among those marrying before 1980, the likelihood of divorce for same-race marriages was actually slightly higher than for interracial marriages (51.1% vs. 46.3%)"
While B/W IR unions are a small minority of unions, the data shows that the performance of white "role models" on the marriage front is unimpressive to begin with, and the primary force in destroying the institution of marriage as it is traditionally known is also centered among reputed white "role models" - namely white homosexuals at the present time.
Posted by Grumman (Member # 14051) on :
Aside from the Mormon's wanderings which one of the interracial marriages above is this 41% referring to? The reader will recall white men/black women as the attention getter.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by Truthcentric: LOL All you have in response to facts is complaining about the source's alleged bias? That's like a Eurocentrist dismissing Keita by accusing him of "Afrocentrism". Furthermore, why is it wrong for someone to argue that BW should be more open-minded to dating white men?
Of course there are lots of successful marriages between BM and BW. That doesn't change the fact that, on average, WM/BW marriages are more stable than WM/WW, BM/BW, or BM/WW. It may paint an unflattering image of black men and white women, but it's true.
Interestingly, I showed the same data to a Neo-Nazi who wanted me to avoid dating black women, and he dismissed the source as being "Jewish propaganda".
I am NOT arguing about how successful or unsuccessful are interracial relationships are.So those facts are insignificant! (You assume because someone argues that Black Women prefer same race marriages, that this person is somehow ANTI-interracial)
In other words, one FACT, doesn't change another FACT. However using one fact (success rate of BW/WM marriages to INFLUENCE another fact BW preference for BM, DOES show bias, in that she is using this data to ENCOURAGE BW to dismiss BM, biased against BM, in her claim that they are not even successful in BM/WW marriages.
The source's bias simply goes back to the original topic, if you took the time to read it. She is part of this propaganda, she, the author herself.
Personally I could care less who dates or marries outside their race, but I do care about preserving my racial heritage (socially) and would not like to see a SIGNIFICANT change in BW preferences. (now that's my own bias ) As I think the white father of subsequent children may not teach the history the way I would like to see it taught. Now you can argue with me on this, I welcome a different view.
Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
I wonder if religious institutions such as the Catholic church that discourages divorce has as effect on the numbers.ex if one or both party happens to be Catholic would they tend to work out whatever problems more..or say inter ethnic marriages but both parties are Muslims.. who I tend to stereotype a little as being more conservative and of family values type.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by MissJennifer:
quote:Asian and Hispanic women were not subjected to the historical abuse by White men as Black women have been, so they are obviously more willing to date/marry White men as a result.
As a young African American woman I have to disagree with this statement.
While, I am quite aware of the historical abuse by White men in the past because I make sure that I am educated about black history and history in general. I cannot relate to what black women went through hundreds of years ago. TODAY most white men are not raping or taking advantage of black women so most of the black wmoen in my age group are not using that as an excuse to date or not date outside their race. If anything I am more likely to be abused by a black man than a white man.
I am just tired of that excuse about what white men did hundreds of years ago to black women that are not here today being the reason why some black women dont date outside their race.
I most certainly wuold date outside my race if I by chance meet a white guy that I had similar interests with. But I don't live in an area where I have access to a lot of white men. I have had white men who had crushes on me before but they weren't my type and were much older
Miss J, I'm not speaking about individual cases, such as yours, its speaking in general. And I don't know your "age group" as the same study does show that the OLDER a female becomes, the more relaxed she is in her dating options.
I don't think women are CONSCIOUSLY thinking of the past, but pressure from society and family is a lot worst for females than men. I even see this is my own family; If a male relative has a white girlfriend, no one seems bothered, but they raise Holy hell when one of the female relatives brings a White male to the family Bar-b-que.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Explorer: Like others here, and myself, have observed, I guess, it will be clearer from knowing the extent of sample sizes, not only nationally but *internationally* where such unions are possible, over what specific time frames with their associated sample specifics, and the *specific* items weighed to determine what constitutes "success", as I can imagine this word being subjective according to interviewees. For you, this is just a rhetorical question, though you may chime in should you wish to do so. [/QB]
From what I've read, it apppears that they measured "success" on who has remained married past a "10 year threshold".
Posted by Avee (Member # 16937) on :
quote:"White men preferred Asian and Latino dating partners to African Americans"
OT, Avee what's it like for a Black woman living in sweden. I'm only assuming you're a BW from your avatar. I'm sure you get a lot of attention. Would you say most of it is positive.
Posted by Avee (Member # 16937) on :
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo:
quote:Originally posted by homeylu: Only people that suffer from low self-esteem or lack thereof needs an outsider to validate their self-worth and/or standards of beauty.
Beauty standards change from season to season, just like other trends.
I think you are describing both black men and black women since they suffer greatly from low self-esteem and it is always those two groups that looks for validation outside their group. Beauty standards doesn't change from season to season. Since white supremacy conquer the standard of beauty is that of white or close to it.
Not according to this study:
Self-Esteem of Ethnic Groups
In 2002, Jennifer Crocker and Jean Twenge conducted a “meta-analysis of studies of self-esteem.” They intended to discover which American ethnic group would score the highest on a self-esteem test. They also wanted to identify how each group’s self-esteem ranked in comparison to how positively society regarded that group. The researchers proceeded by making 712 self-esteem comparisons among five ethnic groups: Native Americans, Asian Americans, Latinos, African Americans and European Americans. The outcomes surprised Crocker and Twenge. They learned that African Americans scored the highest in the self-esteem category, but ranked last in the area of Society’s Positive Regard for the group. They concluded that African Americans consistently make positive statements about themselves even though society does not view them positively. European Americans were second, Latinos third, Native Americans fourth, and Asian Americans were last. Asian Americans’ ranking surprised the researchers because, outside of European Americans, the other groups hold them in high regard.
Posted by Avee (Member # 16937) on :
quote:Originally posted by homeylu:
quote:Originally posted by Avee:
quote:"White men preferred Asian and Latino dating partners to African Americans"
OT, Avee what's it like for a Black woman living in sweden. I'm only assuming you're a BW from your avatar. I'm sure you get a lot of attention. Would you say most of it is positive. [/QB]
Am a Dude married to damn beautiful woman from my country. most blacks here are from Africa therefore prefer to marry women/men from their homelands. There are a few WM/BF relationships over here. Alot of young black boys imported by swedish/scandinavian sex tourists from places like the gambia(the women that import them are often older)These young dump them for young Swedish girls. They have fathered alot bi-racial children. The relationships/marriages never last. After messing with white females here they return to their countries and marry their own women. Which is good by me.
Posted by xyyman (Member # 13597) on :
Been to Germany many times. This phenomenon is seen a lot. WW/BM. Seems like the Germans are trying to make a point.
quote:Originally posted by Avee: [QUOTE]. Alot of young black boys imported by swedish/scandinavian sex tourists from places like the gambia(the women that import them are often older). . They have fathered alot bi-racial children. The . . . .
Posted by xyyman (Member # 13597) on :
Where are those punk ass dudettes( Afro-nut and his crew)!!!
quote:Originally posted by Avee: [QUOTE]Not according to this study:
Self-Esteem of Ethnic Groups
In 2002, Jennifer Crocker and Jean Twenge conducted a “meta-analysis of studies of self-esteem.” They intended to discover which American ethnic group would score the highest on a self-esteem test. They also wanted to identify how each group’s self-esteem ranked in comparison to how positively society regarded that group. The researchers proceeded by making 712 self-esteem comparisons among five ethnic groups: Native Americans, Asian Americans, Latinos, African Americans and European Americans. The outcomes surprised Crocker and Twenge. They learned that African Americans scored the highest in the self-esteem category, but ranked last in the area of Society’s Positive Regard for the group. They concluded that African Americans consistently make positive statements about themselves even though society does not view them positively. European Americans were second, Latinos third, Native Americans fourth, and Asian Americans were last. Asian Americans’ ranking surprised the researchers because, outside of European Americans, the other groups hold them in high regard.
Posted by homeylu (Member # 4430) on :
quote:Originally posted by Avee: Am a Dude married to damn beautiful woman from my country. most blacks here are from Africa therefore prefer to marry women/men from their homelands. There are a few WM/BF relationships over here. Alot of young black boys imported by swedish/scandinavian sex tourists from places like the gambia(the women that import them are often older)These young dump them for young Swedish girls. They have fathered alot bi-racial children. The relationships/marriages never last. After messing with white females here they return to their countries and marry their own women. Which is good by me.
Sorry, for the ASSuming, .
It sounds like the same phenomenal occuring in modern Egypt, according to some of the posters in the Love and Marriage forum.
Posted by Recovering Afro-holic (Member # 17311) on :
since the moderator felt the need to censor my writing, I think I'll just lay in the cut and watch you loons without my help.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Where are those punk ass dudettes( Afro-nut and his crew)!!!
quote:Originally posted by Avee: [QUOTE]Not according to this study:
Self-Esteem of Ethnic Groups
In 2002, Jennifer Crocker and Jean Twenge conducted a “meta-analysis of studies of self-esteem.” They intended to discover which American ethnic group would score the highest on a self-esteem test. They also wanted to identify how each group’s self-esteem ranked in comparison to how positively society regarded that group. The researchers proceeded by making 712 self-esteem comparisons among five ethnic groups: Native Americans, Asian Americans, Latinos, African Americans and European Americans. The outcomes surprised Crocker and Twenge. They learned that African Americans scored the highest in the self-esteem category, but ranked last in the area of Society’s Positive Regard for the group. They concluded that African Americans consistently make positive statements about themselves even though society does not view them positively. European Americans were second, Latinos third, Native Americans fourth, and Asian Americans were last. Asian Americans’ ranking surprised the researchers because, outside of European Americans, the other groups hold them in high regard.
Posted by Jari-Ankhamun (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: since the moderator felt the need to censor my writing, I think I'll just lay in the cut and watch you loons without my help.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Where are those punk ass dudettes( Afro-nut and his crew)!!!
quote:Originally posted by Avee: [QUOTE]Not according to this study:
Self-Esteem of Ethnic Groups
In 2002, Jennifer Crocker and Jean Twenge conducted a “meta-analysis of studies of self-esteem.” They intended to discover which American ethnic group would score the highest on a self-esteem test. They also wanted to identify how each group’s self-esteem ranked in comparison to how positively society regarded that group. The researchers proceeded by making 712 self-esteem comparisons among five ethnic groups: Native Americans, Asian Americans, Latinos, African Americans and European Americans. The outcomes surprised Crocker and Twenge. They learned that African Americans scored the highest in the self-esteem category, but ranked last in the area of Society’s Positive Regard for the group. They concluded that African Americans consistently make positive statements about themselves even though society does not view them positively. European Americans were second, Latinos third, Native Americans fourth, and Asian Americans were last. Asian Americans’ ranking surprised the researchers because, outside of European Americans, the other groups hold them in high regard.
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Posted by Kalonji (Member # 17303) on :
^Actually, do let the door hit you. and HARD.
Posted by Arwa (Member # 11172) on :
Djehuti. Your mailbox is also full. Try PM again.
Posted by The Gaul (Member # 16198) on :
quote:Originally posted by MissJennifer:
quote:Asian and Hispanic women were not subjected to the historical abuse by White men as Black women have been, so they are obviously more willing to date/marry White men as a result.
As a young African American woman I have to disagree with this statement.
While, I am quite aware of the historical abuse by White men in the past because I make sure that I am educated about black history and history in general. I cannot relate to what black women went through hundreds of years ago. TODAY most white men are not raping or taking advantage of black women so most of the black wmoen in my age group are not using that as an excuse to date or not date outside their race. If anything I am more likely to be abused by a black man than a white man.
I am just tired of that excuse about what white men did hundreds of years ago to black women that are not here today being the reason why some black women dont date outside their race.
I most certainly wuold date outside my race if I by chance meet a white guy that I had similar interests with. But I don't live in an area where I have access to a lot of white men. I have had white men who had crushes on me before but they weren't my type and were much older
Why is it that it seems to be a fad among some black people (especially younger ones in my generation) nowadays to quickly air the dirty laundry of their own kind...
quote:If anything I am more likely to be abused by a black man than a white man.
while shouting to the world "Forget the past, I'm down with whitey" with strongly absolute statements like:
quote:I most certainly wuold date outside my race if I by chance meet a white guy that I had similar interests with.
???
I NEVER hear any other group of people speak with such a weak nationalistic attitude. In fact, even if other groups have problems, they will always bring out the best things about themselves, not the worst of the worst.
Is it just me who has noticed it's almost an "in" thing among black people (and not just ones in the diaspora, but continental ones as well) to go out of their way to show how accepting they are of ol' chalky while speaking the worst of their own?? Posted by Truthcentric (Member # 3735) on :
I too am tired of black people bashing their own race. They don't seem to realize that they're only making white people feel justified in harboring anti-black prejudices and discriminating against blacks. Self-insulting blacks only make things worse for their own ethnic group.
Interestingly, I don't often see white people with this same critical attitude towards their fellow whites. We may not have a problem acknowledging the wrongs of our ancestors, but we tend to deny that we're still causing any problems for non-whites or that we should heal the wounds inflicted on the current generation of non-whites by our ancestors. We're often telling non-whites that they should get over the past and that they're the real racists. Not only that, but when one of our own suggests that maybe we should confront the effects of past and present racism, we accuse them of suffering from "white guilt". For all our complaining about people of color not taking personal responsibility for their condition, we ourselves are not taking personal responsibility for our bullshit either.
Posted by DwightGuy (Member # 17517) on :
Damn, this must be the crackhouse, because all you guy seem to be smoking crack nowaddays. I guess all yall take a couple hits from your straight shooter, and them come online high. Sorry i stumbled up on your hangout.
Im gone
Posted by Kalonji (Member # 17303) on :
quote: Originally posted by Gaul: Why is it that it seems to be a fad among some black people (especially younger ones in my generation) nowadays to quickly air the dirty laundry of their own kind...
LOL, you think other ethnicities haven't noticed? Or that they are dependent on us speaking openly about it to notice it? The fact that you called it dirty laundry instead of being in denial tells me that you acknowledge the problem is there. The thing is, not confronting the problems head on but sweeping them under the rug won't solve them and will get us nowhere. I'd like to ask you, how do you suggest black people go about solving our ''problems'' regarding black male behaviour in the dating/family environment, if not openly discussing it?
Posted by The Gaul (Member # 16198) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kalonji:
quote: Originally posted by Gaul: Why is it that it seems to be a fad among some black people (especially younger ones in my generation) nowadays to quickly air the dirty laundry of their own kind...
LOL, you think other ethnicities haven't noticed? Or that they are dependent on us speaking openly about it to notice it? The fact that you called it dirty laundry instead of being in denial tells me that you acknowledge the problem is there. The thing is, not confronting the problems head on but sweeping them under the rug won't solve them and will get us nowhere. I'd like to ask you, how do you suggest black people go about solving our ''problems'' regarding black male behaviour in the dating/family environment, if not openly discussing it?
LOL, I could care less of what ethnicities notice or not and LOL, thats not the point. When I said "air dirty laundry" I was speaking in general terms and did not validate on whether or not it's true that a black woman is more likely to be beaten by a black man over others...all things being equal. Being there is actually a garment called a "wife beater" that comes from poor whites leads me to believe otherwise, but no documentation or reasoning was given other than MissJennifer's perception. So the ONLY thing I acknowledged was how these dirty "perceptions" seemed to be readily loudmouthed by our own kind while readily lauding the willingness to be in comfort with other groups. Which brings me to the next point.
quote:The thing is, not confronting the problems head on but sweeping them under the rug won't solve them and will get us nowhere.
Who said anything about any problems, be they real or just preceptions, be "swept under the rug"? Can't problems be fixed more effieciently and accurately "in house", or "in the family"?? Must our problems or perceptions be loudmouthed to white people on public websites with mixed membership, or on non-black radio or TV in order for them to be fixed? Do you lack confidence in that? Curious.
The MAIN POINT was that, comparatively speaking, it seems black people are more prone to downing our own kind while being ready to acknowledge the acceptance of others VERY LOUDLY purely based on perception and speaks to a very weak attitude and confidence in our own amongst mine and the younger generation (at least this is what I'm seeing). I don't know of any other group that does this.
quote: Originally posted by Gaul: LOL, I could care less of what ethnicities notice or not and LOL, thats not the point.
Then your sematics regarding ''dirty laundry'' is misleading.
quote: Originally posted by Gaul: but no documentation or reasoning was given other than MissJennifer's perception.
Perhaps you jumped in this specific portion of the discussion too soon then.
quote: Originally posted by Gaul: So the ONLY thing I acknowledged was how these dirty "perceptions" seemed to be readily loudmouthed by our own kind while readily lauding the willingness to be in comfort with other groups. Which brings me to the next point.
Who said anything about any problems, be they real or just preceptions, be "swept under the rug"? Can't problems be fixed more effieciently and accurately "in house", or "in the family"??
How exactly do occurring patterns, whether they are exaggerated or not, get solved efficiently on a case per case basis? Give me the specifics and we'll see if your ''indoor'' method is more ''efficient'' than openly discussing it.
quote: Originally posted by Gaul: Must our problems or perceptions be loudmouthed to white people on public websites with mixed membership, or on non-black radio or TV in order for them to be fixed? Do you lack confidence in that? Curious.
If the the highlighted bits don't expose that you care about the opinions of other ethnicities, I don't know what will. Interestingly, the only bad connotations you give to ''airing our dirty laundry'' pertain to other ethnicities butting in.
quote: Originally posted by Gaul: The MAIN POINT was that, comparatively speaking, it seems black people are more prone to downing our own kind while being ready to acknowledge the acceptance of others VERY LOUDLY purely based on perception and speaks to a very weak attitude and confidence in our own amongst mine and the younger generation (at least this is what I'm seeing). I don't know of any other group that does this.
Notice how you give your complaint the status of ''comparatively speaking'' while the ones displayed by me and others are simply ''perceptions''. LOL. Point out one thing I've said that isn't true comparatively speaking.. Don't worry, I'll wait.
quote: Originally posted by Gaul: You seem like a prime candidate for this...
quote:Then your sematics regarding ''dirty laundry'' is misleading.
Purely your opinion and your own stance on what I clearly explained. "Dirty laundry" is exactly what it is, no matter who the audience is.
quote:Perhaps you jumped in this specific portion of the discussion too soon then.
How so? It's not on me to provide the documentation. I didn't say it since I don't even believe it to be true in the first place. I am specifically speaking about the willingness to state this unsubstantiated statement when it really was NOT even necessary to begin with, which proves my overall point.
quote:How exactly do occurring patterns, whether they are exaggerated or not, get solved efficiently on a case per case basis? Give me the specifics and we'll see if your ''indoor'' method is more ''efficient'' than openly discussing it.
Who said keeping things "in house" autmatically equates to "case-by-case"?? Black people not capable of having large forums? Regarding the "indoor" method, it's obvious you have NEVER been part of any team, as your logic on this subject sticks out like the sore thumb of an individual, or someone who does not think with any sort of team-like national identity. This is logic you have to learn on your own, and I hope I'm starting you on the right track. Other groups don't seem to have difficulty grasping this.
quote:If the the highlighted bits don't expose that you care about the opinions of other ethnicities, I don't know what will. Interestingly, the only bad connotations you give to ''airing our dirty laundry'' pertain to other ethnicities butting in.
Actually no. The bad connotation is that it shows a lack of indentic pride when one is already willing to spread possibly fasle information about their own group to other groups. You just don't find East Asian women who go into public arenas very often that invovle a high number of non-East Asians and speak about how bad it is that East Asian men are willing to use them to work in "massage parlors". I sure have never seen or heard about it given the number of these "massage parlors" in every major city. Why? There is too much pride in them to do such a thing and that is a conversation you might only find on an East Asian dominated forum. Nevermind the fact that you will be hard pressed to hear same East Asian woman speak in the same breath her willingness to date a black man as an alternative. Pride kinda works that way. Ya know?
quote:Notice how you give your complaint the status of ''comparatively speaking'' while the ones displayed by me and others are simply ''perceptions''. LOL. Point out one thing I've said that isn't true comparatively speaking.. Don't worry, I'll wait.
From the only things I've seen from you, you talk of supposed personal experiences which can't be rebutted. Just as you talk of "being disrespected by black men", and I can talk of teh black men that taught me at a young age to always open doors for ladies, the ones that have taken me under their wing in my profession, the ones that have been married to ONE woman for 30+ years until death, or the white guy I just saw shout at his lady to "hurry up bvitch!!" at a gas station.
It's all he say/she say. My point is that if you percieve a problem, talk to one on your brothers and handle it "in house" rather than big mouthing to others what may or may not be true. Anyone with self-identic pride (and this is the crux of my argument to begin with) does this without having to be told. Have you travelled outside of the states much? That may help to see how other groups are with their own. For an Amharic or Oromo woman who might happen to live in South Africa, I would give a less than 2% chance that she will marry a man that is say, Xhosa, much less even speak of marrying or dating a white man while bad mouthing her own. Why? Well, I've typed enough lines on why. Hey, why don't you tell me?
Instead of replying to me childish links, pay attention to the one I sent you. It has everything to do with rampant perception black people have about their own communties that have been PROVEN by documentation to be FALSE. Which makes the big-mouthing even worse and low level of self-identic pride even more obvious amongst some of us.
In keeping with my stance on items like this (not for other eyes to see), I won't respond to anymore on this topic on this board. If you want to continue this with me, please PM me as this board is not even remotely meant for topics like this to begin with.
Posted by Kalonji (Member # 17303) on :
quote:Originally posted by Gaul: Purely your opinion and your own stance on what I clearly explained. "Dirty laundry" is exactly what it is, no matter who the audience is.
Let's consult the dictiorary then..
dirty laundry n. Informal Personal affairs that could cause embarrassment or distress if made public: Let's not air our dirty laundry in front of our guests. Also called dirty linen.
Again, implying a certain degree of care about the opinion of other people. Whether or not you meant this, the fact remains your choice or words imply this. If you disagree, take it up with the dictionary.
quote: Originally posted by Gaul: How so? It's not on me to provide the documentation. I didn't say it since I don't even believe it to be true in the first place. I am specifically speaking about the willingness to state this unsubstantiated statement when it really was NOT even necessary to begin with, which proves my overall point.
If the complaints of black women about diasporal black males are ''unsubstantiated'', why use terms like ''airing out our dirty laundry'' and not just call the claims you're reffering to unsubstantiated in the first place? Why not call her out for her perceived bogus and ask for scientific studies? Certainly, if I were to say something bogus like for example, that black men on average have a harder time remaining in control of the relationship, you wouldn't call this ''airing out our dirty laundry'', nor would you call for a non-publicized discussion. You would call it unsubstantiated from the get go, plain and simple. You are contradicting your own choice of words Gaul.
quote: Originally posted by Gaul: Who said keeping things "in house" autmatically equates to "case-by-case"?? Black people not capable of having large forums? Regarding the "indoor" method, it's obvious you have NEVER been part of any team, as your logic on this subject sticks out like the sore thumb of an individual, or someone who does not think with any sort of team-like national identity.
Now this is something I find VERY funny, this is something that Mike would do. Just take a segment from someones post, and deduce from that enough material to write a best selling novel. What is interesting, is that this unsubstatiated deducing deducing comes from someone who labels Missjennifers complains ''perceived'' and ''unsubstantiated''. I wonder what extravagant, glamorous hollywood script material can be deduced from you unwillingness to accept hotter annual temperatures around the equator and what that implies about limb proportions in Africans.
quote: Originally posted by Gaul: Actually no. The bad connotation is that it shows a lack of indentic pride when one is already willing to spread possibly fasle information about their own group to other groups.
How exactly was anyone here ''spreading possibly false information''? If that was anyones intention, there are a lot more efficient way to do that. Posting on Egyptsearch is not one of them.
quote: Originally posted by Gaul: Actually no. The bad connotation is that it shows a lack of indentic pride when one is already willing to spread possibly fasle information about their own group to other groups. You just don't find East Asian women who go into public arenas very often that invovle a high number of non-East Asians and speak about how bad it is that East Asian men are willing to use them to work in "massage parlors". I sure have never seen or heard about it given the number of these "massage parlors" in every major city. Why? There is too much pride in them to do such a thing and that is a conversation you might only find on an East Asian dominated forum.
First of all, your counterexample is irrelevant, since it doesn't relate to ''relational problems''. Secondly, the east Asian temperaments, cultural values and attitudes are different than that of Diasporal Africans. Not better, just different. It is no surprise that these behaviour influencing environmental traits will result in differing behaviour. Come back with some valid counterexamples when you've taken those factors into account.
Also, do you suggest that African American women should adopt or have something to learn from such passive, slave like attitudes? If not, why juxtapose the so called ''bad bahaviour'' of certain black women/men with that example you gave that (I can only hope is not) supposed to be the epitome of ''good behaviour''? The only thing I get from your anekdotal example is that black women in general wouldn't quetly succomb to their husbands command, because of a silly concept of ''pride'', and I believe African American women are better off that way. I don't know about you, but if such patterns where AA men influence AA women to practice certain proffessions to the point that stereotypes start to emerge, I hope AA women maintain the same attitude you accuse them of. Yes, I'd rather have them ''airing out dirty laundry''.
Again, if the complains are really unsubstatiated, your use of the ''Asian massage'' counterexample, that according to you is present in ''every major city'', says otherwise. Why else would you counter example something that equals an urban myth with something that is according to you ''present in every major city''?
quote: Originally posted by Gaul: From the only things I've seen from you, you talk of supposed personal experiences which can't be rebutted. Just as you talk of "being disrespected by black men", and I can talk of teh black men that taught me at a young age to always open doors for ladies, the ones that have taken me under their wing in my profession, the ones that have been married to ONE woman for 30+ years until death, or the white guy I just saw shout at his lady to "hurry up bvitch!!" at a gas station.
You take my words out of context Gaul, I was talking about the odds of that happening compared to the odds of that happening with other ethnic groups. Furthermore, you give the example of positive black influences as if I've never had them, or as if I've said they don't exist. Please stop using strawmen. Thank you.
quote:Originally posted by Gaul: It's all he say/she say. My point is that if you percieve a problem, talk to one on your brothers and handle it "in house" rather than big mouthing to others what may or may not be true. Anyone with self-identic pride (and this is the crux of my argument to begin with) does this without having to be told. Have you travelled outside of the states much? That may help to see how other groups are with their own. For an Amharic or Oromo woman who might happen to live in South Africa, I would give a less than 2% chance that she will marry a man that is say, Xhosa, much less even speak of marrying or dating a white man while bad mouthing her own. Why? Well, I've typed enough lines on why. Hey, why don't you tell me? [Roll Eyes]
Stop comparing diasporal Africans with continental Africans. Also, stop comparing people with other cultural values and history with eachother. Different, is not better. Thank you.
quote: Originally posted by Gaul: Instead of replying to me childish links, pay attention to the one I sent you. It has everything to do with rampant perception black people have about their own communties that have been PROVEN by documentation to be FALSE. Which makes the big-mouthing even worse and low level of self-identic pride even more obvious amongst some of us.
Stop implying that your link does anything more than calling out the exaggeration of the problems, because it certainly doesn't prove they're not there. If it does, I'd like to see some research so I can adjust my ''perceptions''. Thank you
quote: Originally posted by Gaul: as this board is not even remotely meant for topics like this to begin with.
Take it up with the makers of these topics. Thank you
Frankly I can not believe this. Interracial relationships don't last especially between blacks and whites. This 'blog' is bullshyt. White men and black women don't get along. White men are selfish, megalomaniacs, lazy, and condescending. White women and white men relationships last longer and black women and black men relationship last longer. Black women are better off with a hispanic (nonwhite) than a fvcking cracker.
Posted by Bettyboo (Member # 12987) on :
quote:Originally posted by Truthcentric:
quote:Originally posted by MissJennifer: to TruthCentric, I am curious what type of black women do you go for? what skin color, hairtype, features??
Here are some of my favorites to give you an idea of what I like:
Too bad majority of black women don't look like that. They are fat and sloppy with dirty hair weaves.
Posted by Bettyboo (Member # 12987) on :
quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: since the moderator felt the need to censor my writing, I think I'll just lay in the cut and watch you loons without my help.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Where are those punk ass dudettes( Afro-nut and his crew)!!!
quote:Originally posted by Avee: [QUOTE]Not according to this study:
Self-Esteem of Ethnic Groups
In 2002, Jennifer Crocker and Jean Twenge conducted a “meta-analysis of studies of self-esteem.” They intended to discover which American ethnic group would score the highest on a self-esteem test. They also wanted to identify how each group’s self-esteem ranked in comparison to how positively society regarded that group. The researchers proceeded by making 712 self-esteem comparisons among five ethnic groups: Native Americans, Asian Americans, Latinos, African Americans and European Americans. The outcomes surprised Crocker and Twenge. They learned that African Americans scored the highest in the self-esteem category, but ranked last in the area of Society’s Positive Regard for the group. They concluded that African Americans consistently make positive statements about themselves even though society does not view them positively. European Americans were second, Latinos third, Native Americans fourth, and Asian Americans were last. Asian Americans’ ranking surprised the researchers because, outside of European Americans, the other groups hold them in high regard.
I didn't feel I needed to respond to this post. Just ignore it.
Posted by Bettyboo (Member # 12987) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Gaul:
quote:Originally posted by MissJennifer:
quote:Asian and Hispanic women were not subjected to the historical abuse by White men as Black women have been, so they are obviously more willing to date/marry White men as a result.
As a young African American woman I have to disagree with this statement.
While, I am quite aware of the historical abuse by White men in the past because I make sure that I am educated about black history and history in general. I cannot relate to what black women went through hundreds of years ago. TODAY most white men are not raping or taking advantage of black women so most of the black wmoen in my age group are not using that as an excuse to date or not date outside their race. If anything I am more likely to be abused by a black man than a white man.
I am just tired of that excuse about what white men did hundreds of years ago to black women that are not here today being the reason why some black women dont date outside their race.
I most certainly wuold date outside my race if I by chance meet a white guy that I had similar interests with. But I don't live in an area where I have access to a lot of white men. I have had white men who had crushes on me before but they weren't my type and were much older
Why is it that it seems to be a fad among some black people (especially younger ones in my generation) nowadays to quickly air the dirty laundry of their own kind...
quote:If anything I am more likely to be abused by a black man than a white man.
while shouting to the world "Forget the past, I'm down with whitey" with strongly absolute statements like:
quote:I most certainly wuold date outside my race if I by chance meet a white guy that I had similar interests with.
???
I NEVER hear any other group of people speak with such a weak nationalistic attitude. In fact, even if other groups have problems, they will always bring out the best things about themselves, not the worst of the worst.
Is it just me who has noticed it's almost an "in" thing among black people (and not just ones in the diaspora, but continental ones as well) to go out of their way to show how accepting they are of ol' chalky while speaking the worst of their own??
No it's not just you. Everyone else notice it too and when I say both black men and women have low self-esteem [they] want to post so-called evidence to the contrary.
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Asking someone their preference to something does not mean they have access to it. I prefer a $400k vehicle if I had a choice to pick one. But obviously such a car is well beyond my means. Administering a survey asking black women if they prefer to date inside the race does not necessarily preclude the fact that they are single because they are the least desired women. 
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