"The government-approved story of China's first contact with the West dates back to 200BC when China's emperor Wu Di wanted to establish an alliance with the West against the marauding Huns, then based in Mongolia. However, the discovery of the mummies suggests that Caucasians were settled in a part of China thousands of years before Wu Di: the notion that they arrived in Xinjiang before the first East Asians is truly explosive."
In this forum you need to pick your words carefully. The article is only discussing Xinjiang province and yet you have expounded upon that to include all of China.
The mummy looks clearly Oriental and the Caucasian features is only fantasy just like Kenniwick Man fantasies.
Posted by Gigantic (Member # 17311) on :
^But you would not have any problem with Dr. Winters' outlandish claims like the first Chinese were Black, huh?
Posted by Marc Washington (Member # 10979) on :
For Fucks sake Siberia ain't Europe, Northern Japan gets a shitload of snow sometimes, and South Asia gets pretty dark in terms of skin color.
Sometimes the genetic record shows people similarly adapted to similar environments are not related. Sometimes it plain shows that the genes responsible for whatever phenotype they share have geneses completely unique to each other -- this is the case for light skin in East Asia in fact; there are several genes that work together to produce skin complexion and texture and a different mutation is responsible for light and white skin in East Asia than is responsible for that in Europe and West Asia. Go figure.
Siberia
Vague subjective racial claims and terminology should be taken with a grain o' salt. Period.
In places like Eastern India and beyond (further East) the people have hair straighter than Europeans in general do, same thing for the Native Americans survived long enough that were analyzed.
And Marc with the wide noses,
Don't forget there are many light skinned ppl in East Asia alive today with the same and you're laying the path open for the likes of Gigantic to come through with a find of a narrow nose in the same region on a statue, mummy or whatever and say "look, white".
What you're doing is really two sides of the same coin.
I'm posting these just to post them:
Sunita
Kokoya
At the end of the day what was first approached as being the result of some number of races and various levels of racial admixture just turns out to be human population, each with certain levels of diversity.
Posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova (Member # 15718) on :
Actually the peoples of China came from the tropical zone of Southeast Asia. See Hong Shi and J.Y. Chu references below. Scratch the bullshitt "Caucasoids". Osirion's bogus troll thread isn't fooling anyone.
Posted by Whatbox (Member # 10819) on :
I'm just going 2 clear this up: my point was the general climatic diversity to suit a phenetic diversity in East Asia. Not anything about Chinese specifically.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Whatbox: I'm just going 2 clear this up: my point was the general climatic diversity to suit a phenetic diversity in East Asia. Not anything about Chinese specifically.
I keep asking you - WHO????
Posted by Misanthropist (Member # 18543) on :
The BOTTOM LINE is that the FIRST civilizations EVERYWHERE were established by black people with VARYING phenotypes. The further one goes back, the BLACKER it gets.
Posted by Booski Love (Member # 6729) on :
Maybe the first civilizations were actually started by GREEN people
Posted by osirion (Member # 7644) on :
quote:Originally posted by Gigantic: ^But you would not have any problem with Dr. Winters' outlandish claims like the first Chinese were Black, huh?
Actually I am wrong. I would indeed call these people Caucasian based on the evidence.
There were Black Chinese and in fact most Chinese are far more Negroid in appearance than my ancestors.
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