How Heimdall is described in the Poetic Edda, The Lay of Thrym -
14. Then Heimdall spake, | whitest of the gods, Like the Wanes he knew | the future well: "Bind we on Thor | the bridal veil, Let him bear the mighty | Brisings' necklace;
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You loose again. These troll threads are comedy though.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Freya – Main goddess of the Vanir (fertility gods). Daughter of Njord and sister of Freyr.
Posted by Pertinax (Member # 19391) on :
Vikings and Celts were white.
NO BLACK
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
^^^^If this guy lived in ancient times and somebody made a sculpture of him, later on in our time it would be included in a Marc Washington diagram
"Origin of the Name "Bluetooth" Bluetooth technology was named after an ancient Viking king named Harald Blatand ("bla" meaning "dark skinned"; "tan" meaning "great man"). He grew up in a "master/slave" society where one's status in the ..."
*Hugues de Payens or Payns c. 1070–1136) was the co-founder and first Grand Master of the Knights Templar. With Saint Bernard of Clairvaux, he created the Latin Rule, the code of behavior for the Order.
Mali stop trying to steal other people's identities you stupid Black racist POS. The Vikings & Celts were both WHITE, NOT Black. Stay the heck out of OUR history & research your own IN AFRICA. That's where your story lies NOT in Europe.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Mali stop trying to steal other people's identities you stupid Black racist POS. The Vikings & Celts were both WHITE, NOT Black. Stay the heck out of OUR history & research your own IN AFRICA. That's where your story lies NOT in Europe.
Doxie dear, is there any evidence that you can offer for this assertion?
He,he,he: There isn't is there. Like all Albinos, you depend on previous mental programming to insure that your lying proclamations are accepted without question. But this is a new day, all but the Negroes now know that Albinos are NOT native to Europe, so how can you claim that original Europeans like the Celts and Vikings were Albinos? Like I said, do you have any evidence?
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Mike you stupid White people hating Black racist scumbag, Whites ARE native to Europe & you know it. Everyone is getting tired of you Black racists trying to rob them of their identities, trying to rob them of their homelands, trying to rob them of their history, trying to rob them of their heritage, trying to steal their thunder. Why do you do so huh Mike? I know why because you want everyone else particularly Whites to think that we have no history, no heritage, no identity, no homeland to call our own, nothing to be proud of & no place on earth. How about researching your true history in AFRICA instead huh Mike or is it not good enough for you, you White people hating, Black racist, greedy, selfish Black pig? I do have pics of some Danish Viking skulls found in Britian, but you will just lie & say they are Black skulls LOL. I've asked you before & I'll ask you again, stop using racist epithets, I don't use them on your people so I expect the same respect.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
"Weland kept his word, and the Oissel vikings were besieged a second time. They were ... These poor wretches, fir gorm, blue men, blamem, black men (or merely men with dark skins), for the most part ended up in Ireland. ... He was very much a businessman, and made no move against Oissel all his money was in hand."
The Saga of Erik the Red describes them as 'small Lor dark ugly men with coarse hair; they had big eyes and broad
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: I do have pics of some Danish Viking skulls found in Britian, but you will just lie & say they are Black skulls LOL.
I only have one vote.
Show the skulls, let's see what everyone else says.
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Malidibusul you are doing great reading and great research.You gave us link to all the books were the Viking and the Knight Templar GM is described as black, blue and dark.This is scientific research.
From a alternative history video I learned the Kanaanite/Hebrew (black) move to Europe and become the Viking VI king or six kings.They named place they settled after them like the countries of DANmark, SweDAN, ScanDANavia, MaceDANia.The city of LonDAN, The rivers DANube and JorDAN were they settled.They were also the Danae of Greece.
I know there is a tribe name Dan in the Ivory coast.I learned from Mawuvi book the final solution that the African country of Dahomey was name after the Kanaanite/Hebrew/Egyptian tribe of Dan. Dahomey/Dan homey mean home(homey) of the Dan (Da).
I guest the black European bleach out by mixing with the pale European for hundred of years.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^I do hope that the Negroes understand what is going on here. They had been trained to automatically assume that what Doxie was saying is the truth. i.e. "Why of course White people are the original Europeans, so of course original Europeans like the Celts and Vikings were also White."
This training is so ingrained in some Negroes (lamin) that they will fight Blacks who try to educate them with common sense facts and logic.
i.e. If original Europeans were White, then where did they come from and when?
If original Europeans were White then how could they have "TURNED" White because of a lack vitamin "D"? (This is using one Albino lie to box in another Albino lie).
See, just a little thought, demonstrates how totally bullsh1t the Albinos history is, yet certain Negroes steadfastly refuse to acknowledge the Albino mans duplicity.
Why?
I don't know for sure, but I think it has something to do with being made a fool of.
Next time lamin is on the board, let's ask him.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
mena7 - You are beginning to show the Negroes usual propensity for the esoteric and superstition. There is absolutely no evidence for Europe being settled by large populations of Canaanites, or for Canaanites being West Africans. Just because someone comes up with an intriguing story is no reason to pass it on as truth. I see that sort of thing as being too lazy mentally, to think through things. Negroes often do it, and I am very much against it.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Europeans skin turned paled only recently, genes suggest
Researchers have disagreed for decades about an issue that is only skin-deep: How quickly did the first modern humans who swept into Europe acquire pale skin? Now a new report on the evolution of a gene for skin color suggests that Europeans lightened up quite recently, perhaps only 6000 to 12,000 years ago. This contradicts a long-standing hypothesis that modern humans in Europe grew paler about 40,000 years ago, as soon as they migrated into northern latitudes. Under darker skies, pale skin absorbs more sunlight than dark skin, allowing ultraviolet rays to produce more vitamin D for bone growth and calcium absorption. "The [evolution of] light skin occurred long after the arrival of modern humans in Europe," molecular anthropologist Heather Norton of the University of Arizona, Tucson, said in her talk.
The genetic origin of the spectrum of human skin colors has been one of the big puzzles of biology. Researchers made a major breakthrough in 2005 by discovering a gene, SLC24A5, that apparently causes pale skin in many Europeans, but not in Asians. A team led by geneticist Keith Cheng of Pennsylvania State University (PSU) College of Medicine in Hershey found two variants of the gene that differed by just one amino acid. Nearly all Africans and East Asians had one allele, whereas 98% of the 120 Europeans they studied had the other (Science, 28 October 2005, p. 601).
This is a wonderful confirmation of Cavalli-Sforza's prediction about recent selection for skin color:
Either way, the implication is that our European ancestors were brown-skinned for tens of thousands of years—a suggestion made 30 years ago by Stanford University geneticist L. Luca Cavalli-Sforza. He argued that the early immigrants to Europe, who were hunter-gatherers, herders, and fishers, survived on ready-made sources of vitamin D in their diet. But when farming spread in the past 6000 years, he argued, Europeans had fewer sources of vitamin D in their food and needed to absorb more sunlight to produce the vitamin in their skin. Cultural factors such as heavier clothing might also have favored increased absorption of sunlight on the few exposed areas of skin, such as hands and faces, says paleoanthropologist Nina Jablonski of PSU in State College.
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killing two birds with one stone
lioness productions
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Another interesting observation:
Doxie never says "This is WHY" Whites can't be Albinos. They are so used to having everyone believe their Bullsh1t, that they don't even feel an explanation is necessary.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Mike's alternate theory:
African people migrated to Europe tens of thousands of years ago.
As we know, Africans have the highest rate of albinism in the world.
So over thousands of years the albinos that the black Europeans produced became a larger population and the black Europeans were bred out
green shirt man
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
One of the most visible human adaptations is that of skin color. Primates have unpigmented skin beneath their fur. But when humans lost their fur, perhaps because they needed bare skin to sweat efficiently, they developed dark skin to protect against ultraviolet light.
Coloring the skin may sound simple, but nature requires at least 25 different genes to synthesize, package and distribute the melanin pigment that darkens the skin and hair. The system then had to be put into reverse when people penetrated the northern latitudes of Europe and Asia and acquired lighter skin, probably to admit more of the sunlight required to synthesize vitamin D.
Several of the 25 skin genes bear strong signatures of natural selection, but natural selection has taken different paths to lighten people’s skin in Europe and in Asia. A special version of the golden gene, so called because it turns zebrafish a rich yellow color, is found in more than 98 percent of Europeans but is very rare in East Asians. In them, a variant version of a gene called DCT may contribute to light skin. Presumably, different mutations were available in each population for natural selection to work on. The fact that the two populations took independent paths toward developing lighter skin suggests that there was not much gene flow between them.
East Asians have several genetic variants that are rare or absent in Europeans and Africans. Their hair has a thicker shaft. A version of a gene called EDAR is a major determinant of thicker hair, which may have evolved as protection against cold, say a team of geneticists led by Ryosuke Kimura of Tokai University School of Medicine in Japan.
Most East Asians also have a special form of a gene known as ABCC11, which makes the cells of the ear produce dry earwax. Most Africans and Europeans, on the other hand, possess the ancestral form of the gene, which makes wet earwax. It is hard to see why dry earwax would confer a big survival advantage, so the Asian version of the gene may have been selected for some other property, like making people sweat less, says a team led by Koh-ichiro Yoshiura of Nagasaki University.
Most variation in the human genome is neutral, meaning that it arose not by natural selection but by processes like harmless mutations and the random shuffling of the genome between generations. The amount of this genetic diversity is highest in African populations. Diversity decreases steadily the further a population has migrated from the African homeland, since each group that moved onward carried away only some of the diversity of its parent population. This steady decline in diversity shows no discontinuity between one population and the next, and has offered no clear explanation as to why one population should differ much from another. But selected genes show a different pattern: Evidence from the new genome-wide tests for selection show that most selective pressures are focused on specific populations.
One aspect of this pattern is that there seem to be more genes under recent selection in East Asians and Europeans than in Africans, possibly because the people who left Africa were then forced to adapt to different environments. “It’s a reasonable inference that non-Africans were becoming exposed to a wide variety of novel climates,” says Dr. Stoneking of the Max Planck Institute.
The cases of natural selection that have been tracked so far take the form of substantial sweeps, with a new version of a gene being present in a large percentage of the population. These hard sweeps are often assumed to start from a novel mutation. But it can take a long time for the right mutation to occur, especially if there is a very small target, like the region of DNA that controls a gene. In the worst case, the waiting time would be 300,000 generations, according to a calculation by Jonathan Pritchard, a population geneticist at the University of Chicago. And indeed, there are not many hard sweeps in the human genome.
The most political, miltarily and technological powerful ethnicity curently are Europeans. In terms of population it's Asians and they are coming up in technology.
Many of these people are light skinned. Obvioulsy they have become largely successful to this point and have not died out.
Mike, consider this, put the Vitamin D hypothesis aside, people in the Northern hemisphere depigment for a simple reason> heavily pigmented skin is not necessary in this region.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Blah, blah, blah: Wet ear wax, dry ear wax. We think this, we think that. 25 genes, a hundred genes.
Mike111's one gene trumps them all, because it leaves no room for Bullsh1t. That gene is the "P" gene which accounts for OCA2. Albinos can B.S. all they want, but a defective "P" gene created them, and the evidence is right before your eyes.
Posted by xyyman (Member # 13597) on :
"" old news. Back to the Vikings. Came across a few studies aDNA on Viking skeletons. Suprised to learn that 50% to the Vikings carried N. African and middle eastern mtDNA!!!! Looks like Marc was right. DNA testing is making us rewrite history.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Blah, blah, blah: Wet ear wax, dry ear wax. We think this, we think that. 25 genes, a hundred genes.
Mike111's one gene trumps them all, because it leaves no room for Bullsh1t. That gene is the "P" gene which accounts for OCA2. Albinos can B.S. all they want, but a defective "P" gene created them, and the evidence is right before your eyes.
above a woman with a defective P gene, a carrier
well, there you have it Africans who migrated to Europe popped out these albino babies and these babies became the modern European, it's a wrap
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Sorry lying one, I said nothing of the kind.
It was Dravidian Blacks in India who produced the modern Albino Europeans. They moved from India into Central Asia, and from there into Europe.
Posted by xyyman (Member # 13597) on :
The more one read it becomes clear how sick these white people are with their lies and delusion. Nordic Vikings. Lol"!!!
Their lies are being exposed!!!!!
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: "" old news. Back to the Vikings. Came across a few studies aDNA on Viking skeletons. Suprised to learn that 50% to the Vikings carried N. African and middle eastern mtDNA!!!! Looks like Marc was right. DNA testing is making us rewrite history.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Sorry lying one, I said nothing of the kind.
It was Dravidian Blacks in India who produced the modern Albino Europeans. They moved from India into Central Asia, and from there into Europe.
Mike stop making up stuff, that's pure fantasy
Look here's your pure Dravidians prior to the Ayran invasion:
^^^ noses wide nostrils large, lips full
so where did the other Indians get their thinner features?
From albino Africans of the thinner nosed type such as below
___^^^^^^this turned into ____________________^^^^this
and then they went to India
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
^^^^^^this turned into ____________________^^^^this
and then they went to India
When it all happens spontaneously because of a defective "P" gene:
WE CALL IT ALBINISM!
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Mike, you always fucks all threads. Stop responding doxie and lioness.
Contribute your knowledge to the topic.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Mike, stupid White people hating kill whitey, history stealing Black racist scumbag you expect me to post proof when you won't even do so yourself? You have NEVER proven that Whites come from Central Asia, you have NEVER proven that Whites are Albinos. You have however proven that you are a very good thief, liar, & racist though Mike. Why don't you just do yourself a favor & admit, you do what you do because you hate Whites with a passion, want us exterminated off the face of the earth, want us to think that we have no history to speak of, no heritage of any kind, no identity, no homeland to call our own, nothing to be proud of as a people. That you being the greedy, selfish Black pig that you are want the entire earth for Blacks & all history for Blacks, everything for Blacks and nothing for anyone else.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Central Asia, your "Real" homeland is still there for you.
These are your people, why don't you want to be with them?
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Central Asia is NOT my people's homeland, EUROPE on the other hand IS. Those are NOT my people, their mongolness shows in their eyes & noses.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Central Asia is NOT my people's homeland, EUROPE on the other hand IS. Those are NOT my people, their mongolness shows in their eyes & noses.
He,he,he:
Whatever you say, just get your pale ass moving in an easterly direction.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Only when you get your Black ass moving back to Africa Mike, then I shall go to Europe NOT Central Asia, til then you are STUCK with me HAHAHAHA, and not a thing you can do about it LOL.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^An interesting dichotomy here: historically Albino media has been used to perpetrate the Albinos false and fanciful history. But in both The Norseman and Thor the movie, Blacks have been accurately depicted as Vikings - this is very unusual for Albinos.
However, movie going Albinos reaction to this historical truth is VERY typical of the Albinos degenerate lie addicted mind.
AND AS USUAL, AN "IGNORANT NEGRO" COMPOUNDS AND PERPETUATES THE ALBINOS LIES AND IGNORANCE.
(This is why I am even more brutal with ignorant Negroes (like lamin) than I am with Albinos - Ignorant Negroes can do more damage).
Black Thor Actor Talks About Racist Comic Book Fans 4 May 2011 5:28 am
Magic and monsters are fine, but a black guy playing a Norse god? That's taking things too far.
Idris Elba, who plays Heimdall in Marvel's Thor movie, has spoken about the backlash caused by the casting of a black actor as a Norse god. Elba's casting has infuriated a number of groups who feel it is insulting to have a person of color playing a figure often referred to as the "Whitest of the Gods."
Elba indicated that complaints about his casting came in two types: There were the purist comic books fans who were upset about the changes made to the canon - Heimdall is depicted as white in the comics - and then there were others whose complaints were solely motivated by race. He was reluctant to speak about it too much though, as he didn't want to fuel the issue. Ultimately, he said, if people didn't like the casting decisions, they should just stay at home and not see the movie.
Sadly, the fan backlash against Elba's casting is not a new phenomenon - Penny Arcade tackled it in a comic late last year - and it isn't the first time that Elba has talked about it. Just over a year ago, he said that Thor had so many fantastical elements that he was amazed that anyone would pay attention to the color of his skin. He acknowledged that he didn't really look like the traditional image of a Scandinavian, but said that in future there would be more diversity in Hollywood casting. "I was cast in Thor and I'm cast as a Nordic god," he said. "If you know anything about the Nords, they don't look like me but there you go. I think that's a sign of the times for the future. I think we will see multi-level casting. I think we will see that, and I think that's good."
^See there? The ignorant Negro gave credence to the Albinos lie, thus making the Albinos lie believable to other ignorant Negroes. Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Mike you stupid White people hating, identity stealing, Kill Whitey, Black racist sack of crap, how many times must you be told YOU ARE NOT EUROPEAN, YOU ARE NOT NOR WILL YOU EVER BE A VIKING OR CELT, Or Anglo-Saxon, or Goth, or Vandal, or Seuvi, or Frank, or Norman, or Slav, etc. YOU ARE AFRICAN, your history lies in AFRICA. The Vikings & Celts and all above mentioned are WHITE. The Vikings were GERMANIC you dumb Black idiot.
VIKING SKULL (Notice the nose bridge is broken)
GOTH Warrior Skull (found in Gloucester tests confirmed he was a Goth)
CELT Skull (Celtic Woman, notice the nasal spine hehehehe)
There was a man named Thorvard, who was married to Freydis, an illegitimate daughter of Eric's. He also de- cided to go along. With him came Thorhall, who was nicknamed " The Hunter." He and Eric used to go hunt- ing and fishing together in the summer, while in the winter he was Eric's overseer and trusted man. He was huge of stature, dark and glowering, rather beyond mid- dle age; he was a hard man to get along with, mostly taci- turn, but also abusive and underhanded, and he was a bad adviser to Eric. He had refused to adopt the new faith when it came to Greenland. He had few friends, but Eric had a high regard for him, and he was taken on the voyage because he was acquainted far and wide with the unsettled regions of the country.
Early one morning, as they were looking around, they caught sight of a great many skin-covered boats. The men in the boats were waving wooden sticks at the ships, and they were waving them in a sunwise direction. It sounded very much as if they were threshing grain. Then Karlsevni exclaimed, " What can this mean? "
Snorri Thorbrandson answered, " It may be that this is a signal of peace, so let us take a white shield and lift it up before them."
So they did, while the others rowed up to them, gazed at them with astonishment, and then went on land. They were dark men and ugly, with unkempt hair on their heads. They had large eyes and broad cheeks. After they had stayed a while and marvelled, they rowed off to the south of the cape.
Karlsevni and his men had built their shelters above the lake, some of them close to the water, others farther away, and here they stayed that winter. There was no snow-fall whatever, and all their cattle grazed by them- selves in the open.
But early one morning, as spring drew near, they saw
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
Negroes Ruled All of Europe
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Truth Hitman NO Negroes did NOT rule ALL of Europe, they only ruled Spain, S. France & Portugal from 711AD - 1492 AD in the person of the Moors. Go find your history IN AFRICA you stupid White people hating, Black racist twit.
Mike just to make sure you see this I shall repost for you.
Mike you stupid White people hating, identity stealing, Kill Whitey, Black racist sack of crap, how many times must you be told YOU ARE NOT EUROPEAN, YOU ARE NOT NOR WILL YOU EVER BE A VIKING OR CELT, Or Anglo-Saxon, or Goth, or Vandal, or Seuvi, or Frank, or Norman, or Slav, etc. YOU ARE AFRICAN, your history lies in AFRICA. The Vikings & Celts and all above mentioned are WHITE. The Vikings were GERMANIC you dumb Black idiot.
VIKING SKULL (Notice the nose bridge is broken)
GOTH Warrior Skull (found in Gloucester tests confirmed he was a Goth)
CELT Skull (Celtic Woman, notice the nasal spine hehehehe)
According to history the Brittons and the Gauls Celts Germans were all the same stock with different looks within thier RACE theyu wer not WHITE people Whites were GRECO ROMAN thats it
HERE is the Proof:
SCYTHIANS:
MACRITCHIE: Quote From HIS BOOK : Ancient and Modern Britons Vol 1 and Vol 2
"Turks,sabartoiasphali, Czervii, Ugri, or Black Ugri or Ughres or Ogres are to be IDENTIFIED with the BLACK HUNS. Now this fact is important, because it brings us face to face with a large and important nation of the SCYTHIANS who were not only STYLED "BLACK" but who were actually so. And therefore, knowing how numerous they were, and how they spread themselves like a flood over Europe., it is to then we must look if we want to learn something of the history and manners of what may be called the material ancestors of the MELANCHROI. NOT that they constitute the whole of this branch of Pedigree,but plainly they form a considerable part of it.
If they left desendants as numerous, or half as numerous as themselves, The HUNS are described as being of a DARK complexion almost BLACK."
MACRITCHIE: Quote From HIS BOOK : Ancient and Modern Britons Vol 1 and Vol 2
THE DANES:
"The DANARI are styled "BLACK DANARS or Black Danes. In none of these terms is there ANY HINT that the COLOUR of the HAIR is indicated. The Danes, then were " NOT OF PURE COLOUR". They were DUBH, BLACK"
VIKINGS: THORFINN his Life Recorded in the ORKNEYINGA SAGA and SAGA of OLAVE
Book Called Celtic Scotland By W.F Skene 1876
MACRITCHIE: Quote From HIS BOOK : Ancient and Modern Britons Vol 1 and Vol 2
MACRITCHIE Views the AUSTRALOIDS as being of the AFRICAN type that lived in Europe:
"They consist of the Whole ABORIGINAL POPULATION of AUSTRALIA of the natives of interior India (THE DEKHAN) and of the inhabitants of middle and Upper Egypt (the whole area, indeed, that is occupied by the desendanrs of the Egyptians the COLOUR of the skin is some shade of CHOCOLATE-BROWN the NOSE BROAD"
We Know that the FIRST inhabitants of BRITON and more specially those of the Northern parts were CRANIOLOGICALLY of a type approaching to the NEGRO or AUSTRALIAN RACE. THERE are of course, NO living BRITON who are as BLACK as NEGROES, BUT some are DARK as MULATTOES.
BLACKS RULED
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
"Edda bore a dark-skinned, thickset male child, whom she called Thrall"
"Edda bore a dark-skinned thick-set boy, whom she called Thrall"
To further prove my point THE so called white race who come from ESAU were slaves to black kingdoms in the past` the ETRUSCANS who were probably desendants of HEBREWS enslaved to white race for over 600 yrs here are the artifacts
A Etruscan holding the Neck of an edomite slave Roman Laconian cylix 550 BC The sons of Boreas, Kalais and Zetes, are hunting the Harpies. Laconian cylix 550 BC. Villa Gulia Museum Collection: Museo Nazionale Di Villa Guilia, Rome Italy http://www.theoi.com/image/P20.3Harpyiai.jpg Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Truth Hitman you are an idiotic Black racist moron. Only White people hating, Black racist morons like you believe a book that was written by a White people hating moron in the 1800s. No other scientists agree with him. Try again White people hater. The Celts, Vikings, etc were NOT Black people but were WHITE, go find your own dang history IN Africa & stop trying to steal others. Ohh boy we got a real live one here a true to form idiotic White people hating BHI how nice. Dumbass Whites are NOT Edomites either you stupid Black racist moron, why don't you see your way out of this discussion and head on back to your Black racist satanic cult of death and let the adults talk little boy.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^All can see Doxie's lies for themselves, as well as make their own judgements about the Skulls. But has anyone notice her/his hypocrisy?
Re: the constant complaints about me using racist epithets to describe Albinos (All I do is call them by their rightful name - Albinos).
But in the true spirit of the lying, delusional, degenerate Albino mind, the above are NOT racist epithets.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN: [QB] According to history the Brittons and the Gauls Celts Germans were all the same stock with different looks within thier RACE theyu wer not WHITE people Whites were GRECO ROMAN thats it
HERE is the Proof:
SCYTHIANS:
MACRITCHIE: Quote From HIS BOOK : Ancient and Modern Britons Vol 1 and Vol 2
"Turks,sabartoiasphali, Czervii, Ugri, or Black Ugri or Ughres or Ogres are to be IDENTIFIED with the BLACK HUNS. Now this fact is important, because it brings us face to face with a large and important nation of the SCYTHIANS who were not only STYLED "BLACK" but who were actually so. And therefore, knowing how numerous they were, and how they spread themselves like a flood over Europe., it is to then we must look if we want to learn something of the history and manners of what may be called the material ancestors of the MELANCHROI. NOT that they constitute the whole of this branch of Pedigree,but plainly they form a considerable part of it.
If they left desendants as numerous, or half as numerous as themselves, The HUNS are described as being of a DARK complexion almost BLACK."
Mike there you have it, proof Turks, Synthians and Huns were black. The Greeks and Romans were the albinos
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN: We Know that the FIRST inhabitants of BRITON and more specially those of the Northern parts were CRANIOLOGICALLY of a type approaching to the NEGRO or AUSTRALIAN RACE. THERE are of course, NO living BRITON who are as BLACK as NEGROES, BUT some are DARK as MULATTOES.
Henry IV the Pious, Duke of Saxony
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
TRUTH HITMAN, when and how did whites take over in Europe?
Also how long did it take?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Whatever Hitmans answer, it would never be enough. That is because Albinos are in a permanent state of delusion. Reality has no meaning to them, only fantasy and make-believe has any value to them - I guess that's what happens when you have no colour of your own.
Anyone remember Cass? He was always posting pictures of heavily made-up Albino females, and delusionally claimed that "Real" Albino females looked just like that.
Though Cass has personal issues, that has nothing to do with his need to see other Albinos only through the lens of a make-up artist, Albinos are all like that, they all want and need the fantasy stuff, to hell with reality!
Hmmm, I wonder why that's so?
Yea, they're both Goldie Hawn Black people invented make-up (like everything else) but Albinos have taken it to levels not even imagined by Blacks.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Mike, don't you mean everyone can see YOUR lies? Is poor little Mike mad because he got demolished by a White person, not just any White person mind you but a mere woman LOL??? Those skulls proved beyond a doubt that the Vikings & Celts were WHITE, the only questionable one was the Goth one. Name one racist epithet I have used Mike just one.
Let's see I said
Black-Racist epithet? NO
White people hating - Racist epithet? NO
Moron - Racist epithet? NO anyone can be a moron
idiot - racist epithet? NOPE anyone can be an idiot
White people hater - Racist epithet? NOPE not at all especially when its TRUE
BHI - Racist epithet? NOPE he is a BHI
YOU Mike however do use racist epithets towards my people calling us Albinos.
BTW, Goldie Hawn is NOT White she is a JEW Mike, plus she is OLD, she is 67 yrs old not exactly a spring chicken Mike, and believe it or not most people DON'T keep their youthful good looks as they become elderly. You are the ones who must have fantasy Mike. Not only that but you are selfish & greedy, robbing others of their identities, robbing others of their homelands, thinking that Blacks must have all the identities, all the history, all the land on earth & everyone else particularly Whites must have nothing, no place on earth.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
"Ogmios was depicted as a dark-skinned bald man dragging"
Mali who really gives a flying crap what some White people hating, lying, history stealing, Black racist piece of crap pseudo-scholar has to say.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
lol @ Mike. So lame you accuse white females of faking their image when black females are the ones who buy wigs or artificially straighten their nappy hair to look white. Even in ebonics they coined the term "white girl flow".
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Malidubusol great pictures and articles on the celtic God Ogmios(sound spanish), Ogma.Prof Catherine Achulunu translated the Irish celtic script Ogham find in Britain, Iberia, Nigeria and NAmerica as Ogu ma .You can see the name of the God Ogu there.I think Ogmios and Ogma is realy Ogu mios and Ogu ma.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
she's 66 years old, LOL @ Mike
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: [QB] ^Whatever Hitmans answer, it would never be enough. That is because Albinos are in a permanent state of delusion. Reality has no meaning to them, only fantasy and make-believe has any value to them - I guess that's what happens when you have no colour of your own.
And reality is that you are related to Napoleon?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Mike were the vikings black people with afros?
yes or no only please and no hiding behind ambigious quips
thanks, lioness
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Read the caption:
Goldie Hawn, how to glow at 67.
Only Albinos are so delusional as to believe that a 67 year old woman would look like that.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Goldie Hawn with make up in Nov 2011 Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Goldie Hawn with make up in Nov 2011
Delusional Albino, which part of "THIS IS WHAT SHE "REALLY" LOOKS LIKE" DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND????
Damn, can't you Albinos ever face, and accept, the truth about yourselves?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Mike what's your point a 67 old woman with and without make up, so what, be quiet. She still may have had viking ancestry, they were Germanics you know. You think the vikings wore make up?
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Truth Hitman NO Negroes did NOT rule ALL of Europe, they only ruled Spain, S. France & Portugal from 711AD - 1492 AD in the person of the Moors. Go find your history IN AFRICA you stupid White people hating, Black racist twit.
Mike just to make sure you see this I shall repost for you.
Well I dont nedd to insult This will insult you more the TRUTH you say you read HISTORY well read what Roman historian Tacitus said about what these Celts Gauls and the rest of the ORIGINAL inhabitants of Europe looked like Remenber the modern white man looks just like a Roman thats your rulership You guys wiped out the Black Etruscans so this is what the Gauls looked like
"11. Who were the original inhabitants of Britain, whether they were indigenous or foreign, is, as usual among barbarians, little known. Their physical characteristics are various, and from these conclusions may be drawn. The red hair and large limbs of the inhabitants of Caledonia point clearly to a German origin. The dark complexion of the Silures, their usually curly hair, and the fact that Spain is the opposite shore to them, are an evidence that Iberians of a former date crossed over and occupied these parts. Those who are nearest to the Gauls are also like them, either from the permanent influence of original descent, or, because in countries which run out so far to meet each other, climate has produced similar physical qualities."
He said that the Gauls looked just like the Silures who most likely are the CELTS now the key words here are "The dark complexion of the Silures, their usually curly hair'
C'Mon Son thats the TRUTH Also he said the same about the origibnal Brittons
2. The Germans themselves I should regard as aboriginal, and not mixed at all with other races through immigration or intercourse. For, in former times, it was not by land but on shipboard that those who sought to emigrate would arrive; and the boundless and, so to speak, hostile ocean beyond us, is seldom entered by a sail from our world. And, beside the perils of rough and unknown seas, who would leave Asia, or Africa, or Italy for Germany.
Oh he said that these people may have come FROM AFRICA as well
He also said that these PEOPLE ARE UNMIXED meaning they are the same RACE with different looks
2. The name Germany, on the other hand, they say, is modern and newly introduced, from the fact that the tribes which first crossed the Rhine and drove out the Gauls, and are now called Tungrians, were then called Germans. Thus what was the name of a tribe, and not of a race, gradually prevailed, till all called themselves by this self-invented name of Germans, which the conquerors had first employed to inspire terror.
4. For my own part, I agree with those who think that the tribes of Germany are free from all taint of intermarriages with foreign nations, and that they appear as a distinct, unmixed race, like none but themselves. Hence, too, the same physical peculiarities throughout so vast a population. All have fierce blue eyes, red hair, huge frames, fit only for a sudden exertion. They are less able to bear laborious work. Heat and thirst they cannot in the least endure; to cold and hunger their climate and their soil inure them.
So according to That great work Tacitus said that
1. The people that lived in those ares Tungrians with Blue Eyes also the Gauls and celts were the SAME TYPE of PEOPLE they were NOT WHITE THEY DIDNOT LOOK LIKE ROMANS
He Said UNMIXED RACE MEANING they had different looks some dark skin some tawny and some with Blue eyes and brown skin.
Mike you stupid White people hating, identity stealing, Kill Whitey, Black racist sack of crap, how many times must you be told YOU ARE NOT EUROPEAN, YOU ARE NOT NOR WILL YOU EVER BE A VIKING OR CELT, Or Anglo-Saxon, or Goth, or Vandal, or Seuvi, or Frank, or Norman, or Slav, etc. YOU ARE AFRICAN, your history lies in AFRICA. The Vikings & Celts and all above mentioned are WHITE. The Vikings were GERMANIC you dumb Black idiot.
VIKING SKULL (Notice the nose bridge is broken)
GOTH Warrior Skull (found in Gloucester tests confirmed he was a Goth)
CELT Skull (Celtic Woman, notice the nasal spine hehehehe)
Now Mikey my dear Black racist do either the Viking or Celtic skull look like the skulls of Blacks to you?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
TRUTH HITMAN - It's wonderful that you actually researched the matter - kudos to you.
But just a few things: Don't expect anyone to actually read you link, we no long have members who do that, it's best to post an excerpt and a link thusly:
"The dark complexion of the Silures, their usually curly hair, and the fact that Spain is the opposite shore to them, are an evidence that Iberians of a former date crossed over and occupied these parts."
Next, actual data is wasted on Doxie, the poor thing is programmed to constantly repeat the standard Albino denials.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Truth Hitman NO Negroes did NOT rule ALL of Europe, they only ruled Spain, S. France & Portugal from 711AD - 1492 AD in the person of the Moors. Go find your history IN AFRICA you stupid White people hating, Black racist twit.
Doxie dear, before you get too excited and start Mooning people while mouthing "I told you So"!
Tacitus: Agricola was written prior to 100 A.D.
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: TRUTH HITMAN, when and how did whites take over in Europe?
Also how long did it take?
Whats up sis how are you doing? To answer your question I have studied this info for a long while since I was a kid. The White race only ruled twice the Macadonian Roman empire which only lasted a few hundred yrs they were defeated by the BLACK GERMANIC tribes who I believe to be the desendants of the Hebrews in exile in Babylon. The Black huns were the last of these hebrew desendats to enter Europe and wipe out the brown skin aboriginal scythians and Gauls visogoths ETC.
They Also wiped out Rome The white race was also being attacked by the Indian parthians, sassinaids and the other Dark skinned people from that region of earth. Remember the white Race OPPRESSED these people HARSHLY so they Rebelled and the once white Rulership of those lands disappeared and the white race was REDUCED to becomming TURKS. They(the White race) migrated out of Roman cites negroes inhabited these cites later 1,500 yrs went by then all of a sudden like a storm the Turks gained a Culture from the BLACK Shemitic Arabs and became Slave Soilders or Mamelukes and their leaders gathered wealth and started to take over the Levant, Egypt etc. There were over 20 turkish tribes who were BARBARIC attacking all that came through the silk road The KHAZARS is one of these tribes that converted to the ceremonial laws of the original BLACK HEBREWS.. In 1453 these WHITE SLAVE soilders became Ottoman Turks they subduded all other TURKISH tribes and in 1453 they DESTROYEd and enslaved the Negroes that ruled the Byzantine Empire Maming murdering all cites and villages in their path WIPING out all BLACK LIFE in Eastern Europe Yrs later these Turks call themselves HUNS, Polish, Modern Day eastern Europeans are all decendants of TURKS.
When the brotha Mike11 shows the Hapsburgs they were in league with the Turkish Rulership of EASTERN Europe intermixing Black Blood with White Turkish Blood making alliances with the Turkish rulership and produceing Mullatto Offspring.
I have more SHALAM SIS keep up your studying
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
Cassius Dio, Roman History, 62. 2. 2 – 4 (200 AD):
[Describing Boudicca]
"… Buduica (Boudicca), a Briton woman of the royal family and possessed of greater intelligence than often belongs to women. This woman assembled her army, to the number of some 120,000, and then ascended a tribunal which had been constructed of earth in the Roman fashion. In stature she was very tall, in appearance most terrifying, in the glance of her eye most fierce, and her voice was harsh; a great mass of the reddish hair fell to her hips".
‘‘The Gauls are tall of body, with rippling muscles, and white of skin, and their hair is blond, and not only naturally so, but they also make it their practice by artificial means to increase the distinguishing colour which nature has given it.’’
Livy, Ab urbe condita (History of Rome) 38. 21. 9 (25 BC)
"The fact that they fight naked makes their wounds conspicuous and their bodies are fleshy and white, as is natural, since they are never uncovered except in battle; so that both more blood flowed from their abundant flesh and the wounds stood out to view more fearfully and the whiteness of their skins was more stained by the black blood."
Ammianus Marcellinus, Roman History, 15. 12. 1 (378 AD):
"Nearly all the Gauls are of a lofty stature, white, and of ruddy complexion; terrible from the sternness of their eyes, very quarrelsome, and of great pride and insolence. A whole troop of foreigners would not be able to withstand a single Gaul if he called his wife to his assistance, who is usually very strong, and with blue eyes".
Note also how the ancient authors polarized the Germanics (who were fair haired and pale) to the "Ethiopians" (Negro Sub-Saharan Africans):
Seneca the Younger, De Ira (On Anger) 3. 26. 3 (50 AD):
‘‘Non est Aethiopis inter suos insignitus color, nec rufus crinis et coactus in nodum apud Germanos uirum dedecet’’
Translation:
"The colour of the Ethiopian is not exceptional among his own [people], nor is hair, red and gathered into a knot, unfitting for a man among the Germans."
Its simply absurd to claim the Germanics were "black" when all ancient testimony describes them as pale white and fair (red or blondish) haired.
Stop the self-hatred Mike, and embrace your own roots. We know Negroids never founded an ancient civilization (no classical civilization of note came from Sub-Sahara Africa) but that doesn't give you a right to steal other races histories.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
quote:Tacitus: Agricola was written prior to 100 A.D.
So were these retard:
Xenophanes, B16 (500 BC):
‘‘Men make gods in their own image; those of the Ethiopians are black and snub-nosed, those of the Thracians have blue eyes and red hair.’’
Herodotus, Histories, 4. 108 (440BC):
‘‘The Budini for their part, being a large and numerous nation, is all mightily blue-eyed (glaukoi) and red haired (purron)’’
Hippocrates, On Airs, Waters and Places, 20 (400BC):
‘‘The Scythian race are tawny from the cold, and not from the intense heat of the sun, for the whiteness of the skin is parched by the cold, and becomes tawny.’’
Vitruvius, On Architecture, 6. 1. 3 (25 BC):
"This is the reason why the people of the north are so large in stature, so light in complexion, and have straight red hair, blue eyes,[b] and are full of blood, for they are thus formed by the abundance of the moisture, and the coldness of their country".
Pliny, Naturalis Historia, 2. 78 (77 AD):
"…in the frozen and icie regions, [b]the people have white skins, haire growing long downeward, and yellow…"
Lucan, Pharsalia (Civil War) 3. 89 (61 AD):
“And Ocean borne his chains! How noble Gaul, And Britain's blonde-haired chiefs his lofty car.’’
Lucan, Pharsalia (Civil War) 1. 450 (61 AD):
“The fair haired people of Cevennes…”
Strabo, Geographica, 7. 1. 2 (7 BC):
“The Germans, who, though vary slightly from the Celtic stock in that they are wilder, taller and have yellower hair, are in all other respects similar”
Lucan, Pharsalia (Civil War) 2. 60 (61 AD):
‘‘Let loose from furthest North her yellow-haired tribes: Elbe, pour thy Suevians forth!’’
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: TRUTH HITMAN - It's wonderful that you actually researched the matter - kudos to you.
But just a few things: Don't expect anyone to actually read you link, we no long have members who do that, it's best to post an excerpt and a link thusly:
"The dark complexion of the Silures, their usually curly hair, and the fact that Spain is the opposite shore to them, are an evidence that Iberians of a former date crossed over and occupied these parts."
Next, actual data is wasted on Doxie, the poor thing is programmed to constantly repeat the standard Albino denials.
Yeah I know I face guys like THIS ALL the time But Brotha what do you expect from these liars Its funny they have been LIED too by their forefathers I dont know if you read scripture BUT this scripture will make you laugh cause it is significate to THEM
Jeremiah Chapter 16 19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit
The key words are " the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity'
funny huh and also RIGHT ON POINT thats all they did was inherit LIES Theories hey check this out this was written by Adam Weishaupt and Rothchild Check out what they wanted to do to the Youth of the world White and Black
24. Fool, bemuse and corrupt the younger members of society by teaching them theories and principles we know to be false.
there YOU go Have you noticed these I call them Edomites cause they came from the First albino Esau he had NO pigmentation thats why he was RED all Over But you notice these people assume and they only give us theories while we go out research we get books etc they still want to give us DNA theories or Theories on some 40,000 yrs old B.S knowing dam well mankind is NOT that old its called DECEPTION and these secrect societies are the ones pushing this B.S Rockefeller foundation, Carnagie foundation they only FINANCIALY Support WHITE supremacy or natual selection Garbage.
Yo I have a lot of Artifacts my brotha I need you to put this one up under the ETYRUSCAN site on YOUR Website www.realhistoryww.com which I can say is VERY GOOOOOOD and REFRESHING finally I can show the artifacts these suckas have been Hidding and putting OUR ARTIFACTS in the BACK of the Museums accross the WORLD
You know the ETRUSACANS were either HEBREWS or Phoneicians and they ENSLAVED and Breed and even INTERBREED with Edomites they transported to the New land (Italy) that they were Colonizing.
Laconian cylix 550 BC SPARTANS A Etruscan holding the Neck of an edomite slave Laconian cylix 550 BC The sons of Boreas, Kalais and Zetes, are hunting the Harpies. Laconian cylix 550 BC. Villa Gulia Museum Collection: Museo Nazionale Di Villa Guilia, Rome Italy http://www.theoi.com/image/P20.3Harpyiai.jpg
They even had these socalled white women as Hoes and concubines
see looks like the 2 brothas that are talking with one another it looks like that OLD corner PROSTITUTE transaction the brotha on the right with the PIMP stick is negotiating with the brotha with the plants or flowers in hand Amazing! see those so called white prostitues.Amazing! well they(White Race) conqured us and took our kingdom then a thousand yrs later these whites CLAIM FALSELY that they are decendants of BLACK ETRUSCANS. how STUPID
The same thing happend in Greece the Macadonians were slaves, grew in number seperated themselves from the Aboriginal greeks grew in number took the Greek culture then in 343 B.C Philip and then his Son Alexander the MULLATTO conqured all darkskined nations with in a 12 yr period.
I have seen the artifacts of WHITE women serveing Black Greeks and even marring them as well
Hit me back brah SHALAM!
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
thanks TRUTH but the Ottoman empire, muslims didn't go up into Western Europe and they were beat back by the Russians Russo-Turkish War (1877–1878)
Where did the people come from who are the ancesors of the current Europeans? Who were they and in what century did they take control of Western Europe? The Turks were muslims and still are and they fought against the Christians in the crusades.It can't be them. The white people in Europe are Christian. When did they take over places like England, France and Germany?
thanks lioness
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN: Mike111 shows the Hapsburgs they were in league with the Turkish Rulership of EASTERN Europe
^^^^ Mike doesn't say that
. Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers:
quote:Tacitus: Agricola was written prior to 100 A.D.
So were these retard:
Xenophanes, B16 (500 BC):
‘‘Men make gods in their own image; those of the Ethiopians are black and snub-nosed, those of the Thracians have blue eyes and red hair.’’
Herodotus, Histories, 4. 108 (440BC):
‘‘The Budini for their part, being a large and numerous nation, is all mightily blue-eyed (glaukoi) and red haired (purron)’’
Hippocrates, On Airs, Waters and Places, 20 (400BC):
‘‘The Scythian race are tawny from the cold, and not from the intense heat of the sun, for the whiteness of the skin is parched by the cold, and becomes tawny.’’
Vitruvius, On Architecture, 6. 1. 3 (25 BC):
"This is the reason why the people of the north are so large in stature, so light in complexion, and have straight red hair, blue eyes,[b] and are full of blood, for they are thus formed by the abundance of the moisture, and the coldness of their country".
Pliny, Naturalis Historia, 2. 78 (77 AD):
"…in the frozen and icie regions, [b]the people have white skins, haire growing long downeward, and yellow…"
Lucan, Pharsalia (Civil War) 3. 89 (61 AD):
“And Ocean borne his chains! How noble Gaul, And Britain's blonde-haired chiefs his lofty car.’’
Lucan, Pharsalia (Civil War) 1. 450 (61 AD):
“The fair haired people of Cevennes…”
Strabo, Geographica, 7. 1. 2 (7 BC):
“The Germans, who, though vary slightly from the Celtic stock in that they are wilder, taller and have yellower hair, are in all other respects similar”
Lucan, Pharsalia (Civil War) 2. 60 (61 AD):
‘‘Let loose from furthest North her yellow-haired tribes: Elbe, pour thy Suevians forth!’’
Well the Tracians, Scythians, Gauls, Celts ARE ALL FROM THE SAME STOCK OF PEOPLE
First these are quick links to TRUE artifacts made by Thracians lets see if any look like YOU
The Scythian race are tawny from the cold, and not from the intense heat of the sun, for the whiteness of the skin is parched by the cold, and becomes tawny.
Do you understand what he said? TAWNY means only one COLOR its BROWN he said that they are TAWNY from the cold if a man with pigmentation lives in colder climates his meleanin does not have to work as hard as it would in hotter climates so instead of them being DARK skinned they were BROWN skinned some had BLONDE HAIR some had BLUE eyes some had Darkskin as well. The only RACE that can produce different looking offspring are samoans, Aboriginal people, Hawaiians, polynesians these people have a tendacy to have brown skin with BLONDE hair even pale skin as well this is a Scythian pendant found in Scythia.
Sorry look at the Wooly type straight hair look at the features Sorry thats a negro Aboriginal man right there, he is NOT of your race actually your people wiped them out just recently within the last 2,000 yrs and took over their lands
Study harder Keep tryin YOUR white race has a beginning and the name of your race biblicaly is ESAU or EDOM which means RED your Blood shows through your TRANSPARENT WEAK skin. The Egyptians called your race SHASU The Chinesse called your RACE:
Yuezhi which means literally as "moon clan", from yuè , "moon" and shì , "clan" or "race.
Moon people or WHITE PEOPLE is what they called YOU
The suffix Di or Zhi (Chinese:?) was generally used to describe the Di people, called "Western barbarians", in Han Dynasty-era Chinese annals.
Got it Now?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
HITMAN - While I encourage all Black researchers, I really can't hang with you on the Hebrew and Biblical associations. Quite frankly it sounds like the people in funny clothes that we find on soapboxes.
BTW - by all that we know, the Hebrews were basically a people of no importance, who were also lying assholes who tried every trick in the book to seem authentic and inventive while being neither. Why do people like you give them so much credit?
BTW2 - What do you make of Lamin:
Because of his/her inability to accept Black rule in Europe, I was convinced that he/she was an Albino mole, but then I noted his critique of mena7's mentality, which seemed to come from a Black perspective - though there are Albinos who fake that well also.
Now I'm thinking that I was right in the first place: i.e. she/he is just a very dim Negro. Any thoughts?
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: thanks TRUTH but the Ottoman empire, muslims didn't go up into Western Europe and they were beat back by the Russians Russo-Turkish War (1877–1878)
Where did the people come from who are the ancesors of the current Europeans? Who were they and in what century did they take control of Western Europe? The Turks were muslims and still are and they fought against the Christians in the crusades.It can't be them. The white people in Europe are Christian. When did they take over places like England, France and Germany?
thanks lioness
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN: Mike111 shows the Hapsburgs they were in league with the Turkish Rulership of EASTERN Europe
^^^^ Mike doesn't say that
.
Remember NOT all Turksih Tribes were Muslim some just migrated into Eastern Europe they did not even have any CULTURE they were reduced to a nomadic existence. They Mamulke rember them well they also took over parts of North Africa these many differnt White Turkish tribes migrated into the foloowing areas from the time period of 13- 18 century A.d
1.13-1453A.D Turks migrated into Eastern Europe after the fall of Byzantium.
2. 13 century Turkish migrations into Greece, Spain, Italy there was even WARS between the Ottomans and the Black Italians The CRUSADE was our Black Ancestors Fighting for OUR TRUE Holy land Jerusalem. Saladin was a WHITE TURKISH man bent on conqureing and getting RICH.
3. Small Turkish KHAZARS migrated into Spain calling themselves Sapardic JEWS getting wealth from the merchant trade that was happening in Spain thats how they gathered wealth in Spain then they created a MIDDLE CLASS and WHITE kings sprang out of these kings NO LONGER CALLING THEMSelves Turks BUT SPANISH
4. Turksih migrations continue The Black Plauge which new evidence shows that the Early Turkish migrations into Europe caused the BLACK PLAGUE they were nasty and did not Bath it is said that a Byzantine castle was over run by Turkish tribes they catapuleted DEAD DEASESED Turks over the castle walls it is said it spread that way instead of the RAT lie.
5. During the yrs of the plauge, Black Kings had to pay Truks to manage the lands in which these Turks were able to command higher wages which resulted in the Building up of a middle Class now decendants of White Turks are now calling themselves EUROPEANS or MODERN DAY EUROS.
Remember from the late 13th century 800 to a thousand people died every WEEK YEAH imagine that 800 to a thousand people DEAD or dieing every week that desemated Europe and pluged Europe into HELL the White race followed up with a series of REVELOUTIONS in FRANCE, BRITAIN, ITALY, Eastern Europe, Germany.
6. Thats when their scholrs started to come up with lies on history and they began to WRITE US OUT during that time all the way to the current yr 2012 and THEY ARE STILL LYING the new lie is DNA THATS the NEW alchemy
SHALAM SIS
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: HITMAN - While I encourage all Black researchers, I really can't hang with you on the Hebrew and Biblical associations. Quite frankly it sounds like the people in funny clothes that we find on soapboxes.
BTW - by all that we know, the Hebrews were basically a people of no importance, who were also lying assholes who tried every trick in the book to seem authentic and inventive while being neither. Why do people like you give them so much credit?
BTW2 - What do you make of Lamin:
Because of his/her inability to accept Black rule in Europe, I was convinced that he/she was an Albino mole, but then I noted his critique of mena7's mentality, which seemed to come from a Black perspective - though there are Albinos who fake that well also.
Now I'm thinking that I was right in the first place: i.e. she/he is just a very dim Negro. Any thoughts?
Well I just got on this site I have not read everyones comment yet BUT I will I will get back to you on Lamin
But I have a question for you You said that the HEBREWS have no importance well have you studied the ancient HEBREW it is as follows:
The TRUEpronounceation are different now these WHITE they are not hebrews they are converts Turksih Khazars RIGHT that means the 12 tribes were actually NEGROES Now check this out these are artifacts from Etruscan bowls etc
loook closer Mike now compare the language its HEBREW the pyrgi tablets are HEBREW inscribed also I have another bomb for you to study did you know the SPARTANS were decendants of ABRAHAM I got the historical Documents to prove it
Now the Spartans were named Lacedemonians Right even Herodutus said that the Spartans or Lacedemonians were phonecians or Tyrians right?
This is a letter written during the time the White race was taking over Jeruslaem 145 B.c around that time a HEBREW priest named Jonathan wrote letters to the Lacedemonians and they wrote back this is a portin of the letter is as follows:
Apocrypha: 1 Macabees Chapter 12 2 He sent letters also to the Lacedemonians, and to other places, for the same purpose.
19 And this is the copy of the letters which Oniares sent.
20 Areus king of the Lacedemonians to Onias the high priest, greeting:
21 It is found in writing, that the Lacedemonians and Jews are brethren, and that they are of the stock of Abraham:
22 Now therefore, since this is come to our knowledge, ye shall do well to write unto us of your prosperity.
23 We do write back again to you, that your cattle and goods are our's, and our's are your's We do command therefore our ambassadors to make report unto you on this wise.
There you go my brotha proof that is held back from our eyes proof that is down played these men wrote letters to one another noting fake or phony about that these letters were only sent to the hebrews the other races would have no idea that these letters were written
So in conclusion the HEBREWS have been Down played for the simple fact that AA or African Americans are straight decendants of these people I have traced the migrations all over the world my brotha believe me I have studied this for ages.
A quick piece of history for you this is our peoples migration from ISRAEL.
70 A.D migration:
Start Jerusalem 70 a.d to Yemen and Mecca then some of us migrated into Djamena (western Ethiopia) to a city called Gemena (Eastern Kongo) from western Kongo to Cameroon, Angola to Mali. Opala was one of our cities that we migrated to which is located in lower Kongo these are the other cities that we inhabited in Kongo the city of LUD,KUBA,SHABA these kingdoms recieved Israel. We occupied a LARGE Territory in Africa.
Starting about 300 AD, the Kingdom of Ghana began to be ruled by a dynasty of Jewish Kings known as the Za Dynasty. The founder of the Dynasty was a man named Za el Yemeni, who was descended from Jews of Yemen. He established his capital city at Gao on the Niger River, in what is now the nation of Mali.
This area was rich in gold and iron, the latter metal being of great value in the forging of weapons with which neighboring Kingdoms were conquered. Within the Kingdom of Ghana the first public buildings, canals, and irrigation systems in this part of the world were built.
According to the writings of Eldad the Danite, a famous Algerian Jewish author of the ninth century, Ghana was a Hebrew nation which followed the Law of Moses. The people of Ghana traced their roots to Jews of the First Diaspora of 600 BC, who were forcibly expelled from Israel by the Assyrians.
There you go my brotha HARD CORE PROOF of a HELLAVA HEBREW exsistence WE also ruled EUROPE as well HUNS were decendants of hebrews out of Babylonian exile
SHALAM! hit me back my brotha
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN: [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] thanks TRUTH but the Ottoman empire, muslims didn't go up into Western Europe and they were beat back by the Russians Russo-Turkish War (1877–1878)
Where did the people come from who are the ancesors of the current Europeans? Who were they and in what century did they take control of Western Europe? The Turks were muslims and still are and they fought against the Christians in the crusades.It can't be them. The white people in Europe are Christian. When did they take over places like England, France and Germany?
thanks lioness
[QUOTE]Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN: Remember NOT all Turksih Tribes were Muslim some just migrated into Eastern Europe they did not even have any CULTURE they were reduced to a nomadic existence. They Mamulke rember them well they also took over parts of North Africa these many differnt White Turkish tribes migrated into the foloowing areas from the time period of 13- 18 century A.d
1.13-1453A.D Turks migrated into Eastern Europe after the fall of Byzantium.
2. 13 century Turkish migrations into Greece, Spain, Italy there was even WARS between the Ottomans and the Black Italians The CRUSADE was our Black Ancestors Fighting for OUR TRUE Holy land Jerusalem. Saladin was a WHITE TURKISH man bent on conqureing and getting RICH.
3. Small Turkish KHAZARS migrated into Spain calling themselves Sapardic JEWS getting wealth from the merchant trade that was happening in Spain thats how they gathered wealth in Spain then they created a MIDDLE CLASS and WHITE kings sprang out of these kings NO LONGER CALLING THEMSelves Turks BUT SPANISH
4. Turksih migrations continue The Black Plauge which new evidence shows that the Early Turkish migrations into Europe caused the BLACK PLAGUE they were nasty and did not Bath it is said that a Byzantine castle was over run by Turkish tribes they catapuleted DEAD DEASESED Turks over the castle walls it is said it spread that way instead of the RAT lie.
5. During the yrs of the plauge, Black Kings had to pay Truks to manage the lands in which these Turks were able to command higher wages which resulted in the Building up of a middle Class now decendants of White Turks are now calling themselves EUROPEANS or MODERN DAY EUROS.
Remember from the late 13th century 800 to a thousand people died every WEEK YEAH imagine that 800 to a thousand people DEAD or dieing every week that desemated Europe and pluged Europe into HELL the White race followed up with a series of REVELOUTIONS in FRANCE, BRITAIN, ITALY, Eastern Europe, Germany.
6. Thats when their scholrs started to come up with lies on history and they began to WRITE US OUT during that time all the way to the current yr 2012 and THEY ARE STILL LYING the new lie is DNA THATS the NEW alchemy
SHALAM SIS
Mike you always wondered what happened to the Black Europeans, TRUTH has got the answer, the Black plague
TRUTH, I heard the black plague originated in China but Mike says the Chinese were black. So did the Black plague kill more black people than white, these white Turks or did it not discriminate? Did white people some how engineer the disease? - notcie how these racists call it the Black plague, why not the white or Chinese plague?
You mentioned Saladin. he was a Kurdish muslim. We know most Turks like today were Muslim at the time of the crusades. So why isn't Western Europe part of a Turkish empire currently with everybody Muslims? Turkey is not even in the European union. If these white people in Europe today are Turks why aren't they all Muslims? Was there some sort of conversion? Also what about Russia? How did Russia get taken over by the white man?
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Truth Hitman point of view about history is interesting.
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Mike you stupid White people hating, identity stealing, Kill Whitey, Black racist sack of crap, how many times must you be told YOU ARE NOT EUROPEAN, YOU ARE NOT NOR WILL YOU EVER BE A VIKING OR CELT, Or Anglo-Saxon, or Goth, or Vandal, or Seuvi, or Frank, or Norman, or Slav, etc. YOU ARE AFRICAN, your history lies in AFRICA. The Vikings & Celts and all above mentioned are WHITE. The Vikings were GERMANIC you dumb Black idiot.
VIKING SKULL (Notice the nose bridge is broken)
GOTH Warrior Skull (found in Gloucester tests confirmed he was a Goth)
CELT Skull (Celtic Woman, notice the nasal spine hehehehe)
Now Mikey my dear Black racist do either the Viking or Celtic skull look like the skulls of Blacks to you?
Doxies, sexy thang. What do you think of these?
And these?
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN: [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] thanks TRUTH but the Ottoman empire, muslims didn't go up into Western Europe and they were beat back by the Russians Russo-Turkish War (1877–1878)
Where did the people come from who are the ancesors of the current Europeans? Who were they and in what century did they take control of Western Europe? The Turks were muslims and still are and they fought against the Christians in the crusades.It can't be them. The white people in Europe are Christian. When did they take over places like England, France and Germany?
thanks lioness
[QUOTE]Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN: Remember NOT all Turksih Tribes were Muslim some just migrated into Eastern Europe they did not even have any CULTURE they were reduced to a nomadic existence. They Mamulke rember them well they also took over parts of North Africa these many differnt White Turkish tribes migrated into the foloowing areas from the time period of 13- 18 century A.d
1.13-1453A.D Turks migrated into Eastern Europe after the fall of Byzantium.
2. 13 century Turkish migrations into Greece, Spain, Italy there was even WARS between the Ottomans and the Black Italians The CRUSADE was our Black Ancestors Fighting for OUR TRUE Holy land Jerusalem. Saladin was a WHITE TURKISH man bent on conqureing and getting RICH.
3. Small Turkish KHAZARS migrated into Spain calling themselves Sapardic JEWS getting wealth from the merchant trade that was happening in Spain thats how they gathered wealth in Spain then they created a MIDDLE CLASS and WHITE kings sprang out of these kings NO LONGER CALLING THEMSelves Turks BUT SPANISH
4. Turksih migrations continue The Black Plauge which new evidence shows that the Early Turkish migrations into Europe caused the BLACK PLAGUE they were nasty and did not Bath it is said that a Byzantine castle was over run by Turkish tribes they catapuleted DEAD DEASESED Turks over the castle walls it is said it spread that way instead of the RAT lie.
5. During the yrs of the plauge, Black Kings had to pay Truks to manage the lands in which these Turks were able to command higher wages which resulted in the Building up of a middle Class now decendants of White Turks are now calling themselves EUROPEANS or MODERN DAY EUROS.
Remember from the late 13th century 800 to a thousand people died every WEEK YEAH imagine that 800 to a thousand people DEAD or dieing every week that desemated Europe and pluged Europe into HELL the White race followed up with a series of REVELOUTIONS in FRANCE, BRITAIN, ITALY, Eastern Europe, Germany.
6. Thats when their scholrs started to come up with lies on history and they began to WRITE US OUT during that time all the way to the current yr 2012 and THEY ARE STILL LYING the new lie is DNA THATS the NEW alchemy
SHALAM SIS
Mike you always wondered what happened to the Black Europeans, TRUTH has got the answer, the Black plague
TRUTH, I heard the black plague originated in China but Mike says the Chinese were black. So did the Black plague kill more black people than white, these white Turks or did it not discriminate? Did white people some how engineer the disease? - notcie how these racists call it the Black plague, why not the white or Chinese plague?
You mentioned Saladin. he was a Kurdish muslim. We know most Turks like today were Muslim at the time of the crusades. So why isn't Western Europe part of a Turkish empire currently with everybody Muslims? Turkey is not even in the European union. If these white people in Europe today are Turks why aren't they all Muslims? Was there some sort of conversion? Also what about Russia? How did Russia get taken over by the white man?
Well Mike is correct they were very darkskinned I dont use the word BLACK its stupid and confussing there are BLACK people meaning races with a Dark skinn complexion live all over the world not just Africa but India they are realy Dark there Its stupid when we say there is a LIGHT SKIN BLACK GIRL What! thats a stupid statement but people use it all the time.
But the Ancient Chineeese were a very darkskinn negroid looking race short with slanted eyes. They mixed up with the White Turks as well the Mongols were a hybreed race of White Turks and Dark skinned chineese. The Tartars as well they conqured the Darkskinned Chinees the ones that lived behind the GREAT WALL. The mongols were into Rape and they killed offf all men except for men with skills blacksmiths etc the women were used as concubines and hand maids thats why today these CHINA are decendats of MONGOLS how were a mixed race of people.
As for the Turks remember the imigration into America from Mexico exampl
A mexican familiy goes to Anerica has a baby born in the USA that kid is now Americanized he will NOT consider himself to be Mexican but American
Thats the same thing that happend in Europe nomadic Turkish families migrate into Europe have offspring who now take on the European lifestyle Now they are considered European they are not muslim they take on christianity latter generations latter. Now these same Euros from Turkish offspribng are now calling themselves Russian and there is your War of 1800 between the Russian Turks and Turks from Ottoman Empire
Itsjust them fighting for POWER its just their Leaders fighting for POWER
As for the black plague it attacked only in Europe it started in the East The Turks brought that diesease into Europe. Just like the white man brought smallpox and syphilis into the Americas and killed MIllions of so called indians same thing happend in Europe called BLACK PLAGUE.
So these Turks just took on the culturer of Europe
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
TRUTH HITMAN- I am taking your points in order, if I miss any please let me know. This is given in the spirit of all of us being on the same page, not to put you down. And of course, it is simply the current state of truth, not the full truth.
1) The HEBREW alphabet 1400 B.C. that you posted is actually the Phoenician alphabet. The Phoenicians were CANAANITES, the original people of the Levant; Hebrews were the plundering invaders from Anatolia (Turkey).
2) As to the Pyrgi Tablets: As you know, they are three golden leaves that record a dedication made around 500 B.C. by Thefarie Velianas, king of Caere, to the Phoenician goddess ʻAshtaret. Pyrgi was the port of the southern Etruscan town of Caere. Two of the tablets are inscribed in the Etruscan language, the third in Phoenician. From Wiki: The Phoenician text has long been known to be in a Semitic, more specifically Canaanite language (very closely related to Hebrew, and also relatively close to Aramaic and Ugaritic).
It might also interest you to know that at the time of Jesus, Hebrews communicated in the related language of Aramaic (Hebrews were part of a larger ethnic group from Anatolia called Amorites). This because Amorites had once again taken over Mesopotamia (Babylon, Sumer (Chaldeans), I would remind you that ABRAHAM was from the Chaldes.
Genesis 11:27-32
Now these are the generations of Terah: Terah begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran; and Haran begat Lot. And Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his nativity, in Ur of the Chaldees (Sumer). And Abram and Nahor took them wives: the name of Abram's wife was Sarai; and the name of Nahor's wife, Milcah, the daughter of Haran, the father of Milcah, and the father of Iscah. But Sarai was barren; she had no child. And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the son of Haran his son's son, and Sarai his daughter in law, his son Abram's wife; and they went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan; and they came unto Haran (Anatolian city), and dwelt there.
3) The Etruscan’s are said by some, to be originally from Anatolia, I am not convinced of that.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Expanding on the "Etruscan’s are from Anatolia" theme:
There are two direct ways of entering Europe from Africa:
1) Cross the Strait of Gibraltar and Enter in Spain, or Cross the Dardanelles in Turkey.
We know that modern Africans (The Khoisan like Grimaldi) first entered Europe by way of the Strait of Gibraltar (circa 45,000 ya), because the oldest skeletons are found in nearby France/Monaco.
We also know that these people were Hunter Gathers, and very artistic - they produced cave art that the Albinos can just now approach in quality.
At about 7,500 ya, African FARMERS moved into Europe by way of Anatolia. These "NEW" Africans mixed with the Grimaldi Africans who were already there. Out of this mixture was born the modern Black European.
(What about the Albinos who call themselves "Europeans"??? This study explains)
Ancient DNA from the First European Farmers in 7500-Year-Old Neolithic Sites
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Expanding on the "Etruscan’s are from Anatolia" theme:
There are two direct ways of entering Europe from Africa:
1) Cross the Strait of Gibraltar and Enter in Spain, or Cross the Dardanelles in Turkey.
We know that modern Africans (The Khoisan like Grimaldi) first entered Europe by way of the Strait of Gibraltar (circa 45,000 ya), because the oldest skeletons are found in nearby France/Monaco.
^^^^ Mike these people have peppercorn hair
what happened to the peppercorn hair? did they mix with straight haired Africans?
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
We also know that these people were Hunter Gathers, and very artistic - they produced cave art that the Albinos can just now approach in quality.
At about 7,500 ya, African FARMERS moved into Europe by way of Anatolia. These "NEW" Africans mixed with the Grimaldi Africans who were already there. Out of this mixture was born the modern Black European.
(What about the Albinos who call themselves "Europeans"??? This study explains)
Ancient DNA from the First European Farmers in 7500-Year-Old Neolithic Sites
Ancient DNA from the First European Farmers in 7500-Year-Old Neolithic Sites Wolfgang Haak1,*, Peter Forster2, Barbara Bramanti1, Shuichi Matsumura2, Guido Brandt1, Marc Tänzer1, Richard Villems3, Colin Renfrew2, Detlef Gronenborn4, Kurt Werner Alt1, Joachim Burger1 + Author Affiliations
1 Institut für Anthropologie, Johannes Gutenberg Universität Mainz, Saarstrasse 21, D-55099 Mainz, Germany. 2 McDonald Institute for Archaeological Research, University of Cambridge, Downing Street, Cambridge CB2 3ER, UK. 3 Estonian Biocentre, Tartu University, 23 Riia Str, Tartu, 51010, Estonia. 4 Römisch-Germanisches Zentral-museum, Ernst-Ludwig-Platz 2, D-55116 Mainz, Germany. ↵* To whom correspondence should be addressed at the Molecular Archaeology Group, Institute of Anthropology, Colonel Kleinmann Weg 2, SBII 02, Johannes Gutenberg University, Mainz D-55128, Mainz, Germany. E-mail: haakw@uni-mainz.de ABSTRACT
The ancestry of modern Europeans is a subject of debate among geneticists, archaeologists, and anthropologists. A crucial question is the extent to which Europeans are descended from the first European farmers in the Neolithic Age 7500 years ago or from Paleolithic hunter-gatherers who were present in Europe since 40,000 years ago. Here we present an analysis of ancient DNA from early European farmers. We successfully extracted and sequenced intact stretches of maternally inherited mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) from 24 out of 57 Neolithic skeletons from various locations in Germany, Austria, and Hungary. We found that 25% of the Neolithic farmers had one characteristic mtDNA type and that this type formerly was widespread among Neolithic farmers in Central Europe. Europeans today have a 150-times lower frequency (0.2%) of this mtDNA type, revealing that these first Neolithic farmers did not have a strong genetic influence on modern European female lineages. Our finding lends weight to a proposed Paleolithic ancestry for modern Europeans.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN:
Thats the same thing that happend in Europe nomadic Turkish families migrate into Europe have offspring who now take on the European lifestyle Now they are considered European they are not muslim they take on christianity latter generations latter.
So what about France, England and Germany? What was the century when white people took over in these countries? was King James Black? Did they do it by war ir was there just a lot of migrations?
Who were the first white kings in Europe? What are some of their names?
Thanks, lioness
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lioness - FORGET THE HAIR!!!
This is more important:
From the study, Quote: "Our finding lends weight to a proposed Paleolithic ancestry for modern Europeans."
As you know, the term "Paleolithic" means "Old Stone Age."
I mean seriously now: Even when trying to do a serious scientific study you fuching Albinos can help but lie, you all know damn well that your White-assed ancestors didn't reach Europe from Central Asia until about 1,200 B.C. Yet here are your degenerate scientists talking nonsense about the stone age!
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Lioness - FORGET THE HAIR!!!
This is more important:
From the study, Quote: "Our finding lends weight to a proposed Paleolithic ancestry for modern Europeans."
As you know, the term "Paleolithic" means "Old Stone Age."
I mean seriously now: Even when trying to do a serious scientific study you fuching Albinos can help but lie, you all know damn well that your White-assed ancestors didn't reach Europe from Central Asia until about 1,200 B.C. Yet here are your degenerate scientists talking nonsense about the stone age!
Mike you need to stay away from any new research
the article you posted weighs between 7500 and 40000 for the ancestors of modern Europeans
old Otzi man, approx 5000 years old, Italy
Tarim man also about 5,000 years old, Tarim basin, Xinjiang, North West China Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lamin - just curious;
This is merely a rehash of old material, I am just wondering how you were able to spew such nonsense in the face of even this little bit of data. BTW - I will stay on your ass.
Lioness is lying with the Tarim man, who I'm sure you know is from central Asia. But that's lioness, we know that he/she is a degenerate liar. You appear to have wanted to be taken seriously - But not if I can help it, you have shown yourself!
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
Lioness is lying with the Tarim man, who I'm sure you know is from central Asia. But that's lioness, we know that he/she is a degenerate liar. You appear to have wanted to be taken seriously - But not if I can help it, you have shown yourself! [/QB]
How am I lying with tarim man. Tarim man is from China and is about the same age of Otzi man from Europe, given the effect of mummification on their skin, they both have a yellowish tone. -I added information to the Tarim caption so you should be happy now
-also, Dravidians are not Central Asians
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lioness - I already knew that you Albinos had many tricks with the camera, there was no need to demonstrate it.
TARIM MUMMY:
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^Mike I used the same photo of the tarim man you use on yoru website so stop the nonsense.
There are very different mummification processes involved, one is from the desert the other frozen in the alps.
In either case they are both light skinned
and you are a hustler, you switched to a female and they are lighter just like the Nenet photo Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: you switched to a female and they are lighter just like the Nenet photo
Oh, so now you Albinos have created a "NEW" lie: that being that Female Humans are "LIGHTER" than Male Humans.
He,he,he:
I don't suppose that you Albinos have created a fake proof of that yet. When you do come up with it, please post it, I always like a good laugh.
Paler Kominized Nenets (Yaran people) has emerged as a result of intermarriages between Nenets and the Izhma tribe of the Albino Komi peoples (That's why the man above is dark and the Mulatto females and child are not).
Albino Komi people Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
CAN"TTELLTHETRUTHHITMAN, your White people hating Black racist kill Whitey butt has no business talking about anyone being racist punk assed lying, history & identity stealing thief. BTW Stupid assed BHI White people hater the Turks are NOT White & never have been White.
Mike you stupid White people hating Black racist twin, how many times do you have to be told, We Whites ARE the indigenous people of Europe whether you like it or not. We did NOT come from no Asia. Those people in your pic are NOT White.
I tell you what I'm going to start claiming the AEs as White, why not? If you Black racist peons can try to rob us of our identities (the Celts, Vikings, Normans, etc) leaving us with nothing why shouldn't we take some of yours too hehehe.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Doxie dear - Not that I doubt your right and ability to decide exactly who is Albino (White). But could you just please run it by me so that we could all know?
I mean this has me completely confused:
Turkish Girls.
Asian Albinos
Doxie could you just please say why you are more White (Albino) than these people are? Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
If you look at the migration route of human beings out of Africa, the Middle East, Turkey and Eastern Europe were all populated well before Western Europe was populated
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: CAN"TTELLTHETRUTHHITMAN, your White people hating Black racist kill Whitey butt has no business talking about anyone being racist punk assed lying, history & identity stealing thief. BTW Stupid assed BHI White people hater the Turks are NOT White & never have been White.
Mike you stupid White people hating Black racist twin, how many times do you have to be told, We Whites ARE the indigenous people of Europe whether you like it or not. We did NOT come from no Asia. Those people in your pic are NOT White.
I tell you what I'm going to start claiming the AEs as White, why not? If you Black racist peons can try to rob us of our identities (the Celts, Vikings, Normans, etc) leaving us with nothing why shouldn't we take some of yours too hehehe.
He PINKY you said the Turks wer not WHITE Damm man your denial is SICKENING but since you have NO HISTORICAL UNDERSTANDING this is what Ibrahim Pasha (1789 – November 10, 1848) was the eldest son of Muhammad Ali, the Wāli and unrecognised Khedive of Egypt and Sudan. This is what THIS TURK looked like
HA are you tellin me that this MAN is a Black man? how about Chineese? how about a East Indian? Sorry PINKY that man looks just like your GRANDFATHER with a WHITE BEARD.
Hey do the paper test, see paper is WHITE put your hand up to some white paper does your skin match the color of the PAPER? NO! YOUR PINK NOT WHITE you look like HAMBURGER MEAT. GOT IT
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
quote:NO! YOUR PINK NOT WHITE you look like HAMBURGER MEAT. GOT IT
Caucasoids have the greatest spectrum of pigmentation, ranging from pale white through to ruddy-pink, to olive to darker brown shades.
Milky non-pinkish skin is often observed:
This girl is hardly "pink". Just type milky white skin in google images and you will get plenty more images, some even more paler.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Turkish president Abdullah Gul
the Mid East and Turkey were populated before Europe They are the ancestors of the earliest Europeans
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers: Just type milky white skin in google images and you will get plenty more images, some even more paler.
I did and here is what I found:
About Aiden (Aidens blog)
Quote: Sunburn sucks It really does. When I was born I was blessed with a milky white skin that is so white it almost looks green. It also is very afraid of the sun. If it sees the sun it blushes and goes red.
Is there any who still doubt that Albinos are out of their fuching minds! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cass - I once challenged Doxie to explain to me how you people could be completely without Melanin, and yet refuse to admit that you are Albinos. After all, isn't the definition of Albinism about a lack of Melanin.
So now it's your turn, please explain to us how you people are not Albinos. Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers:
quote:NO! YOUR PINK NOT WHITE you look like HAMBURGER MEAT. GOT IT
Caucasoids have the greatest spectrum of pigmentation, ranging from pale white through to ruddy-pink, to olive to darker brown shades.
Milky non-pinkish skin is often observed:
If you'd bother to read what I've posted over the last few years you'd likely not be so ignorant to post nonsense and instead possess knowledge that would allow you to stick to the scientific facts.
What you are simply proclaiming as the "greatest spectrum of pigmentation" in Europeans is actually a wide range of limited Pheomelanin, the red-yellow sulphur based pigment.
As even you have indirectly stated, Europeans lack any significant amounts of Eumelanin and therefore like Albinos, appear milky white ro ruddy red. This is anything but "a great spectrum of pigmentation", and is in fact, not only the planet's least diverse, but also comes with a wide range of Eumelanin deficient diseases and genetic disorders.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Quite true MK, but I'm still trying to digest this:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Quote: When I was born I was blessed with a milky white skin that is so white it almost looks green. It also is very afraid of the sun. If it sees the sun it blushes and goes red.
Damn - I always thought that was sh1t that they said to dumb Niggers, you know, you can tell them anything and they will believe it. But I never thought that they were actually so delusional that they believed it themselves.
WOW, not being able to go out in the Sun is a GOOD THING! Damn, these fuchers are totally warped!
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: If you'd bother to read what I've posted over the last few years you'd likely not be so ignorant to post nonsense and instead possess knowledge that would allow you to stick to the scientific facts.
What you are simply proclaiming as the "greatest spectrum of pigmentation" in Europeans is actually a wide range of limited Pheomelanin, the red-yellow sulphur based pigment.
As even you have indirectly stated, Europeans lack any significant amounts of Eumelanin and therefore like Albinos, appear milky white ro ruddy red. This is anything but "a great spectrum of pigmentation", and is in fact, not only the planet's least diverse, but also comes with a wide range of Eumelanin deficient diseases and genetic disorders. [/QB]
You post pseudo-science. Secondly you set up the same fallacious "European = white skin", when in actual fact few Europeans are that pale (take a look at the Luschan Scale). Many Europeans run into olive and brown shades of pigmentation, particularly in the southern regions:
"Southern European and Mediterranean countries (e.g., Spain and Malta) generally have lower incidence rates for skin melanoma than northern European countries, and lower rates have been reported in southern than northern Italy." (Polednak, 1989)
Southern Europeans have a much lower incidence of skin cancer rates than the more depigmentated Central and Northern Europeans. They don't need mythical wandering "Blacks" to give them darker skin shades either -- they posess on average the darker skin type native to the Circum-Mediterranean climate.
Excessively dark skin is inferior in cold (northern) latitudes - this has been proven in experiments on all animals, but is also observed in govermental medical reports. Immigrants to Sweden from 3rd world countries (who are usually much darker) have to take vitamin D supplements. Also note this has been observed in the more northern zones of America:
"Previous work by geneticist Rick Kittles at the University of Chicago suggests that upwards of 75 percent of African-Americans are deficient in vitamin D. Kittles says that African-Americans living north of the 37th parallel — just about anyplace north of central California, Texas, Tennessee or North Carolina — will have difficulty through most of the year absorbing enough sunlight to make vitamin D, because of the low angle of the rays reaching the Earth's surface."
Cass - Stop the stupidness, you posted this before, and it was soundly debunked before. All you prove is that you Albinos (and your lackey Niggers - Kittles), at every level, are degenerate liars.
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: TRUTH HITMAN- I am taking your points in order, if I miss any please let me know. This is given in the spirit of all of us being on the same page, not to put you down. And of course, it is simply the current state of truth, not the full truth.
1) The HEBREW alphabet 1400 B.C. that you posted is actually the Phoenician alphabet. The Phoenicians were CANAANITES, the original people of the Levant; Hebrews were the plundering invaders from Anatolia (Turkey).
2) As to the Pyrgi Tablets: As you know, they are three golden leaves that record a dedication made around 500 B.C. by Thefarie Velianas, king of Caere, to the Phoenician goddess ʻAshtaret. Pyrgi was the port of the southern Etruscan town of Caere. Two of the tablets are inscribed in the Etruscan language, the third in Phoenician. From Wiki: The Phoenician text has long been known to be in a Semitic, more specifically Canaanite language (very closely related to Hebrew, and also relatively close to Aramaic and Ugaritic).
It might also interest you to know that at the time of Jesus, Hebrews communicated in the related language of Aramaic (Hebrews were part of a larger ethnic group from Anatolia called Amorites). This because Amorites had once again taken over Mesopotamia (Babylon, Sumer (Chaldeans), I would remind you that ABRAHAM was from the Chaldes.
Genesis 11:27-32
Now these are the generations of Terah: Terah begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran; and Haran begat Lot. And Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his nativity, in Ur of the Chaldees (Sumer). And Abram and Nahor took them wives: the name of Abram's wife was Sarai; and the name of Nahor's wife, Milcah, the daughter of Haran, the father of Milcah, and the father of Iscah. But Sarai was barren; she had no child. And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the son of Haran his son's son, and Sarai his daughter in law, his son Abram's wife; and they went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan; and they came unto Haran (Anatolian city), and dwelt there.
3) The Etruscan’s are said by some, to be originally from Anatolia, I am not convinced of that.
Yes my brotha mike You are correct exept for the HEBREEW I will explain Now my question to you and all scholars is who was the dominate people the HEBREWS or tyrians we have to find this out cause I hav seen That old ancient Hebrews acroos the world in /babylon Spain Carthage Jerusalem even the HEBREW Spartans spoke it as well.
Were the Tyrians dominate or HEBrews? So lets go through the records of these two DARK SKINN NATIONS and find out who was dominate
According to the HEBREW record the Hebrews migrated out of Egypt and conqured the Dark skinned Cannaites the only few survivors were the Tyrians who became servants to the hebrews. THAT is factual so far it looks as if the Hebrews and their 12 tribes were dominate So that means that the So called Phonecian language is just plain old ancient HEBREW this is the language spoken BEFORE the Babylonian Exile, after the Exile the tribes of Judah were the only to return to Jerusalem The Rest of the 12 tribes stayed.
When the hebrews returned to Jerusalem they spoke a different type of HEBREW called ARAMAIC or Assyrian Hebrew or Babylonian Hebrew.
HERE is the proff that the Tyrains were servants to Israel before 722 B.C when Israel was defeated and their kingdom of Rulership broken.
1 Kings) Chapter 9 14 And Hiram sent to the king sixscore talents of gold.
Hiram sent gold to Soloman because it was TRIBUTE to the HEBREWS.
20 And all the people that were left of the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites, which were not of the children of Israel,
21 Their children that were left after them in the land, whom the children of Israel also were not able utterly to destroy, upon those did Solomon levy a tribute of bondservice unto this day
according to the history of the HEbrews the Hittites jebusites Perizzites, Hivites were GIVING TRIBUTE to the HEBREWS. So far looks like the HEBREWS are dominating the Cannanites here.
27 And Hiram sent in the navy his servants, shipmen that had knowledge of the sea, with the servants of Solomon.
Hiram gave the Hebrews Servants from Tyre, these servants had knowlegde of the SEA or Sea men. So the servants from Tyre along with the HEBREW colonizers sailed all over the world.
So that means that:
1. The HEBREWS were Dominate. 2. The so called Phonecian Language realy belongs to the HEBREWS 3. Soloman had a navy that strecthed from Israel to Spain in which the Hebrew colonizers would bring back GOLD SILVER and Apes Also it was Rumored just amongst the Hebrews and Etruscans that a NEW land was found by accident
The Syracusan (Greek 100bc) historian Diodorus said the Carthaginians had a "large island" which was located "far out in the Atlantic ocean" - on which there were "many mountains" and "large navigable rivers
The land was rich in gold, gems, spices, etc. He stated that the Phoenicians had found it "by accident" while founding colonies on the west coast of Africa when some ships got lost.
One of Plutarch's (2nd century ad) less known works* also states quite clearly the state of affairs. He cited a document which was found in the ruins of the old city of Carthage. He said the Carthaginians knew of a "true continent" which was located far to the west of Britain
So before we make any conclusions we must find out whos language it realy is and who was DOMINATE
Hit me back my brotha
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^ Mike says that Protestants like King James killed off Blacks who were Catholic in the Thirty Years War and that King James who was white altered the Bible
At the end of the "Thirty Years Wars" (1618–1648), which involved The Emperor of the Black Holy Roman Empire and his allies: The Papal armies, Spain, Poland, Bavaria: Against the insurgent Albino forces from: France (now under Albino control), England, Russia, the Dutch, Sweden, Transylvania, Hesse-Kassel, and the Palatinate (Please remember this name). Saxony, Brandenburg, and Denmark - switched alliances.
In Germany the Black Genocide event is the "Thirty years war" (1618–1648). This war is said to be about the Protestants adherents of Martin Luther against the Catholic forces of Ferdinand II of the Habsberg Holy Roman Emperors. But Blacks such as Duke Albert were supportive of the Protestants, therefore the Albino explanation of religion as the cause of the wars can only be seen as just another Albino lie. When the result is the eradication of one race by another, regardless of what name or cause you give it, it was a race war! What we can say is that at the end of those wars, by their own estimates, the population had been reduced by approximately 40%. Judging by the result, the overwhelming majority of them were Blacks.
The Survivors were sold into Slavery.
Please pay close attention to the date of the German Genocide of Blacks (1618–1648)
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers: Cassius Dio, Roman History, 62. 2. 2 – 4 (200 AD):
[Describing Boudicca]
"… Buduica (Boudicca), a Briton woman of the royal family and possessed of greater intelligence than often belongs to women. This woman assembled her army, to the number of some 120,000, and then ascended a tribunal which had been constructed of earth in the Roman fashion. In stature she was very tall, in appearance most terrifying, in the glance of her eye most fierce, and her voice was harsh; a great mass of the reddish hair fell to her hips".
‘‘The Gauls are tall of body, with rippling muscles, and white of skin, and their hair is blond, and not only naturally so, but they also make it their practice by artificial means to increase the distinguishing colour which nature has given it.’’
Livy, Ab urbe condita (History of Rome) 38. 21. 9 (25 BC)
"The fact that they fight naked makes their wounds conspicuous and their bodies are fleshy and white, as is natural, since they are never uncovered except in battle; so that both more blood flowed from their abundant flesh and the wounds stood out to view more fearfully and the whiteness of their skins was more stained by the black blood."
Ammianus Marcellinus, Roman History, 15. 12. 1 (378 AD):
"Nearly all the Gauls are of a lofty stature, white, and of ruddy complexion; terrible from the sternness of their eyes, very quarrelsome, and of great pride and insolence. A whole troop of foreigners would not be able to withstand a single Gaul if he called his wife to his assistance, who is usually very strong, and with blue eyes".
Note also how the ancient authors polarized the Germanics (who were fair haired and pale) to the "Ethiopians" (Negro Sub-Saharan Africans):
Seneca the Younger, De Ira (On Anger) 3. 26. 3 (50 AD):
‘‘Non est Aethiopis inter suos insignitus color, nec rufus crinis et coactus in nodum apud Germanos uirum dedecet’’
Translation:
"The colour of the Ethiopian is not exceptional among his own [people], nor is hair, red and gathered into a knot, unfitting for a man among the Germans."
Its simply absurd to claim the Germanics were "black" when all ancient testimony describes them as pale white and fair (red or blondish) haired.
Stop the self-hatred Mike, and embrace your own roots. We know Negroids never founded an ancient civilization (no classical civilization of note came from Sub-Sahara Africa) but that doesn't give you a right to steal other races histories.
Once again this comment is WRONG "Stop the self-hatred Mike, and embrace your own roots. We know Negroids never founded an ancient civilization (no classical civilization of note came from Sub-Sahara Africa) but that doesn't give you a right to steal other races histories.
THESE are Artifacts of Known Negroe races or CIVILIZATION in the middle EAST:
Sorry Faheemdunkers you need to study HARDER if you are serious about history or are you just a White boy hater of the dark skinn races of Earth
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
NoTruthHitman, Who are you to talk about Faheemdunkers, you yourself are a hater of Whites, hypocrite much.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
TRUTH - Be magnanimous, denial is all they have left. Hell, even their adoring Negroes leave them once the truth becomes known (haven't heard from lamin in a while, I'm assuming reality has finally penetrated his African mind too).
I personally am concerned with what might happen to our Albinos after being more or less "penetrated" by truth.
The result could be:
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Mike come off it you stupid White people hating, Kill Whitey, Black racist goon. You wouldn't know truth if it came up and bit you on your ass. All you know is hate,lying & stealing other people's history, heritage, identities, & homelands particularly that of Whites & degrading, demeaning & dehumanizing us in the process, trying to harm White children, and using racist epithets.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Oh, sorry Doxie, I didn't know that you were still here. Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Mike Mike Mike, How many times have I told you I'm not going anywhere no matter how hard you & your ilk try to run me off. I'm staying put & will continue to call out your racism & defend what rightfully belongs to my people to prevent you & yours from robbing us of it. Besides I don't post that often maybe once every few days, not exactly living on this forum like YOU do LOL.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ Ralph, You don't live here because your local klan headquarters have no electricity or Internet access. Only your sponsors, The Goldmans have such luxuries.
Heir Faheemdunkers Knock off the Vitamin D nonsense. You're like a rabid dog barking at the wind.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: TRUTH - Be magnanimous, denial is all they have left. Hell, even their adoring Negroes leave them once the truth becomes known (haven't heard from lamin in a while, I'm assuming reality has finally penetrated his African mind too).
I personally am concerned with what might happen to our Albinos after being more or less "penetrated" by truth.
The result could be:
Brotha Mike do me a favor I have searched and searched I need the The Holy Crown of Hungary I just need the artifacts from the panels of the crown in an individual form one by one seperate. I have seen the ones Mr. washington puts out BUT I need it seperated and individual ok! can you do this one solid for a brotha to use AS a WEAPON against these LIES!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Sorry TRUTH HITMAN, I have nothing on the Hungarian crown, but here is a short history.
According to Clyde Winters The Hungarian stated their ancestor originated from Kush in Africa.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Notruthhitman, You are the one who lies you stupid Black racist, White people hating twit. Lies & stealing of other's histories, heritages, identities, & homelands that is what you, Mike, Mena7, Marc, Clyde, and the rest of your Kill Whitey, White people hating, Black racist cohorts know. None of you would know truth if it came up & bit you on the backsides.
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Notruthhitman, You are the one who lies you stupid Black racist, White people hating twit. Lies & stealing of other's histories, heritages, identities, & homelands that is what you, Mike, Mena7, Marc, Clyde, and the rest of your Kill Whitey, White people hating, Black racist cohorts know. None of you would know truth if it came up & bit you on the backsides.
Humpr me I have a question for you. Have I called YOU OUT of your name?
2. Have any of us insulted you.?
Since no one has done these things that means you hate us because YOU HATE BLACK PEOPLE PERIOD.
Just because we agree on the FACT that White people ARE NOT AND DO NOT HAVE ANCIENT ANCESTORY COMMING OUT OF EUROPE
So now I hate White people because our scholars say this and prove this. man your DUMB thats all you got huh? Excusses
Please this has nothing to do with hating any races.
But I do have to say this Your people started this racial crap you did not us nor my people.
See here is the problem you face.
1. You were brought up and raised on ASSUMPTIONS and THEORIES we all were
2. Your school system and college system only teach you skills to make MONEY but they never talk about what history tactius wrote about tactius your forefather said that the GAULS and Celts and all the people of Europe were not WHITE people They did not look like Romans
also he said the the ancient HEBREWS WERE BLACK PEOPLE period but now we see Chazars lying about their HERITAGE because they took our heritage away from us in SLAVERY.
Since you dont study YOU will not know that HEBREWS fled into Africa in 70 A.d
So yes it was your race who lied and stole and killed millions of people in the name of RICHES
So who is the REAL HATER of RACES is it me or mike and others like us our is it REAL YOU and YOUR RACE
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
It is YOU YOU stupid White people hating, Kill Whitey, White people genocidist, lying, history stealing, Black racist moron. Yes you insult me when you try to steal my people's heritage, our identities, our history, our homeland. I hate nobody, if I hated Blacks then I'd have to hate two of my own cousins who are mulattoes. Unlike you White people haters I don't go around claiming what is not mine.
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: It is YOU YOU stupid White people hating, Kill Whitey, White people genocidist, lying, history stealing, Black racist moron. Yes you insult me when you try to steal my people's heritage, our identities, our history, our homeland. I hate nobody, if I hated Blacks then I'd have to hate two of my own cousins who are mulattoes. Unlike you White people haters I don't go around claiming what is not mine.
Well tell your two black cousins that their forefathers(Black forefathers) Ruled his white forefathers in Europe
Ok answer this what is Tactus talking about here in his works
11. Who were the original inhabitants of Britain, whether they were indigenous or foreign, is, as usual among barbarians, little known. Their physical characteristics are various, and from these conclusions may be drawn. The red hair and large limbs of the inhabitants of Caledonia point clearly to a German origin. The dark complexion of the Silures, their usually curly hair, and the fact that Spain is the opposite shore to them, are an evidence that Iberians of a former date crossed over and occupied these parts. Those who are nearest to the Gauls are also like them, either from the permanent influence of original descent, or, because in countries which run out so far to meet each other, climate has produced similar physical qualities."
Answer these questions
1. Why if the Gauls silure/Celts were WHITE why are they mentioned as being BROWN skin here is what he said.
"The dark complexion of the Silures, their usually curly hair, and the fact that Spain is the opposite shore to them, are an evidence that Iberians of a former date crossed over and occupied these parts.
now did he not say that these dark skinned people crossed and migrated into France and Spain and Brittian huh? if not what does he mean
2. Why di dhe say that these Silures looked just like the Gauls this is what he said.
"Those who are nearest to the Gauls are also like them, either from the permanent influence of original descent, or, because in countries which run out so far to meet each other, climate has produced similar physical qualities."
Why did he say that if they looked like Romans
3. Also he said that these tungrians(Germam) and Gauls had different looks as well
"Their physical characteristics are various, and from these conclusions may be drawn"
he said that
1. these people have different looks but they are the same RACE
2. He said that they were brown skin and some had red hair
also this is from a WHITE historian MACRITCHIE
This is what he said during HIS research into Early Britian
Quote from his book Ancient and Modern Britons Vol 1 and Vol 2
MACRITCHIE Views the AUSTRALOIDS as being of the AFRICAN type that lived in Europe:
"They consist of the Whole ABORIGINAL POPULATION of AUSTRALIA of the natives of interior India (THE DEKHAN) and of the inhabitants of middle and Upper Egypt (the whole area, indeed, that is occupied by the desendanrs of the Egyptians the COLOUR of the skin is some shade of CHOCOLATE-BROWN the NOSE BROAD"
We Know that the FIRST inhabitants of BRITON and more specially those of the Northern parts were CRANIOLOGICALLY of a type approaching to the NEGRO or AUSTRALIAN RACE. THERE are of course, NO living BRITON who are as BLACK as NEGROES, BUT some are DARK as MULATTOES.
So if there was NO evidence of negro peopl eliving in Europe WHY did he say this then
HE researched the old skulls found in Europe and said that these skulls "CRANIOLOGICALLY of a type approaching to the NEGRO or AUSTRALIAN RACE"
Why did he say this if it did not exisit huh?
here is another book called Celtic Scotland By W.F Skene 1876
it also says that Black races lived in Early Europe
Its not me nor any brotha that talks this stuff we are just quoteing your forefathers and their research
So get mad at your race NOT me or anyone else that teaches
BLACK PEOPLE RULED EUROPE
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
TRUTH HITMAN - You're actually RESEARCHING????
Wow, haven't had a newbie do that in a while - nice!
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: It is YOU YOU stupid White people hating, Kill Whitey, White people genocidist, lying, history stealing, Black racist moron. Yes you insult me when you try to steal my people's heritage, our identities, our history, our homeland. I hate nobody, if I hated Blacks then I'd have to hate two of my own cousins who are mulattoes. Unlike you White people haters I don't go around claiming what is not mine.
Part 2
You said that you hate the fact That we are taking your history not SO I will explain.
I nor mike as said that the Gauls and celts were ancestors of African Americans no not at all.
African americans happen to be desendants of Exiled Hebrews that fled into Africa in different time periods.
I like you, HATE the FACT that YOUR race has stolen MY peoples identity. Oh yes the shoe is on the other foot now.
I am saying that the Gauls Celts according to history were NOT of the WHITE race actually your race DESTROYED these people ROME THATS a FACT
Now back to the HEBREWS first I will prove that ALL hebrews even to the time of Egypt they have always been BLACK
Roman historian named Tacitus who lived about C.E. 90 Said "Many assert that the Hebrews are an RACE OF ETHIOPIAN ORIGINS
As I am about to relate the last days of a famous city, it seems appropriate to throw some light on its origin.
Many, again, say that they were a race of Ethiopian origin, who in the time of king Cepheus were driven by fear and hatred of their neighbours to seek a new dwelling-place. Others describe them as an Assyrian horde who, not having sufficient territory, took possession of part of Egypt.
So if the JEWS were always WHITE (like you and other Haters of BLACKS like to say) then WHY in the HELL is this WHITE boi tellin us that these original HEBREWS were NIGGAS?
Suck on that for awhile then get back at me with HISTORY not insults.
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: TRUTH HITMAN - You're actually RESEARCHING????
Wow, haven't had a newbie do that in a while - nice!
Actually I have been teachin this for over 20 yrs I started to study this when I was 13-15 yrs of age.
My first book was DESTRUCTION of THE BLACK civilizations by MR. Williams
And also the book called "What They Never Told You In History Class (Vol 1):"
Those were just some of the books I started with at 15 yrs of age
I can not afford to jump around the world and collect ARTIFACTS(wish I could)
So when I ran into your website with all the ARTIFACTS I thought finally brothas are researching this material on a GRAND scale more than it was 20 yrs ago.
I remeber 20 yrs ago people would CLOWN me cause I had no ARTIFACTS to prove the point only books
Things have change since then BUT we need to still get the word out
Hey do me a favor I have been dropin a lot of info about the Scythians Gauls etc to some brothas on another thread its called topix.com HEBREW ISRAELITE and other threads that I post this info on do me a favor we need more brothas with this kind of knowledge talking to other brothas to get the TRUTH out
it would be my pleasure to have you come on this thread and post artifacts historical notes etc to REINFORCE the FACT that
NEGROES WERE in Scythia Gaul and Ancient Europe
SHALAM!
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
I call you, Mike & the rest of your ilk exactly what you are. You ARE White people hating, Kill Whitey, White people genocidists, lying, history stealing, Black racist morons therefore I call you that & will continue to do so. Further more take your stinking BHI bull crap elsewhere because this White girl aint falling for it. Yes it is so, you ARE trying to rob my people of our history, our heritage, our identities, our homeland. We Whites have a right to what belongs to us, we have a right to our history, our heritage, our identities, our homeland. As I said before I insult those who insult me & you, Mike & your ilk insult me by trying to steal everything that rightfully belongs to me & my people. Again I don't hate Blacks only White people hating, Kill Whitey Black racists like you, Mike & the rest of your ilk.
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: I call you, Mike & the rest of your ilk exactly what you are. You ARE White people hating, Kill Whitey, White people genocidists, lying, history stealing, Black racist morons therefore I call you that & will continue to do so. Further more take your stinking BHI bull crap elsewhere because this White girl aint falling for it. Yes it is so, you ARE trying to rob my people of our history, our heritage, our identities, our homeland. We Whites have a right to what belongs to us, we have a right to our history, our heritage, our identities, our homeland. As I said before I insult those who insult me & you, Mike & your ilk insult me by trying to steal everything that rightfully belongs to me & my people. Again I don't hate Blacks only White people hating, Kill Whitey Black racists like you, Mike & the rest of your ilk.
BUT see here is where YOU are WRONG!
You still can not prove that you come from the Gauls nor celts this is what we are talking about.
Listen your race has LIED about history and I have the proff
I have shown you many books that your people wrote like this book here
Speculation has run somewhat wild over the question of the composition of the Early Britons. But out of the clash of rival theories there emerges one--and one only--which may be considered as scientifically established. We have certain proof of two distinct human stocks in the British Islands at the time of the Roman Conquest; and so great an authority as Professor Huxley has given his opinion that there is no evidence of any others.
The earliest of these two races would seem to have inhabited our islands from the most ancient times, and may, for our purpose, be described as aboriginal. It was the people that built the "long barrows"; and which is variously called by ethnologists the Iberian, Mediterranean, Berber, Basque, Silurian, or Euskarian race. In physique it was short, swarthy, dark-haired, dark-eyed, and long-skulled; its language belonged to the class called "Hamitic", the surviving types of which are found among the Gallas, Abyssinians, Berbers, and other North African tribes; and it seems to have come originally from some part either of Eastern, Northern, or Central Africa. Spreading thence, it was
probably the first people to inhabit the Valley of the Nile, and it sent offshoots into Syria and Asia Minor. The earliest Hellenes found it in Greece under the name of "Pelasgoi"; the earliest Latins in Italy, as the "Etruscans"; and the Hebrews in Palestine, as the "Hittites.
". It spread northward through Europe as far as the Baltic, and westward, along the Atlas chain, to Spain, France, and our own islands
In many countries it reached a comparatively high level of civilization, but in Britain its development must have been early checked.
Now according to this historian Huxley he said that these following people were BLACK ABORIGINAL PEOPLE
Iberian, Mediterranean, Berber, Basque, Silurian, or Euskarian race
Also these people too.
Pelasgoi"; the earliest Latins in Italy, as the "Etruscans"; and the Hebrews in Palestine, as the "Hittites.
So I am supposed to read these books and then I am supposed to BYPASS this info(Like You ARE Doing)
Just to appease YOUR Feelings PLEASE!
Your scholars have admitted that the Gauls and Celts wer Aborigibnal people
And your RACE was only Roman Not Hebrew
Not a Gaul Not a Mycenaenan Not a Not Persian Not Scythian
So I you still come on this thread with JUST your Feelings please GET A LIFE, SUCK IT UP, TAKE IT LIKE A MAN
This info is SPREADING and SPREADING FAST
Why cause it is REAL and scholarly
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Those with an extra $265.29 U.S. might find this interesting:
Book Description Publication Date: June 4, 2010 On the plains of Wiltshire in England lie the remains of ancient giant stones. Exactly which people built these stones remains the eternal question. Just like the pyramids of Egypt its origins remain shrouded in mystery. Various theories have been put forward as to the race or otherwise of these builders, but still, much uncertainty remains. The evidence is simply overwhelming that the earliest inhabitants of Britain and Ireland were Blacks. Mythological, archeological, linguistic and other sources have substantiated this remarkable fact. Candid authorities like the British Egyptologists Gerald Massey and Albert Churchward, the Scottish historian David Mac Ritchie, and the British antiquarian Godfrey Higgins, have done exhaustive research and brought many facts to our knowledge. Tacitus, Pliny, Claudian and other writers have described the Blacks they encountered in the British Isles as "Black as Ethiopians," "Cum Nigris Gentibus," "nimble-footed blackamoors," and so on. This book reveals much about the Black presence in the early British Isles, including the "mysterious" builders of Stonehenge. We learn about the Black Fomorians, Partholonians, Nemedians, Firbolgs, Tuatha De Danann, Black Danes, Black Douglases, the giants or Cyclopes and so on. We also learn about the Black serpent-worshiping Druids who built serpentine monuments like those at Avebury and Carnac, as well as the builders of the Round Towers of Ireland. The fact remains, that Blacks have played a very important role in the early history, traditions, religion and so on, of early Britain and elsewhere than is generally known and acknowledged. This is a must-read book.
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Megalith The Black Builders of Stonehenge by Aylmer Von Fleischer is a great book Mike.I base my opinion on the book description and the many great authors reference by the book.Once every generation you will find great white scholar that will tell you the unbias truth of history.They will dominate their prejudice education and tell you that black people created ancient civilization worldwide and religion is Egyptian astrotheology.Those great authors are Gerald Massey, Abert Churchward, Constantin de Volney, Charles Dupuis, Godfrey Higgins and David McRitchie.I think Aylmer Von Fleitscher is the latest of these great scholar.
I dont know why the book is that expesive costing $266 .Lamin need to read this book to learn about the black European.I dont trust DNA test done by Europeen in Europe, North Africa and West Asia that state those people have different DNA then African or a minimum of African DNA.When black scientist are doing their own DNA test worldwide thats when I will trust the DNA test result.The majority of European lie when it come to race and civilization.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by mena7: The majority of European lie when it come to race and civilization.
That is true.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Notruthhitman,
Who gives a crap about books written by White people hating, Kill Whitey, White people genocidist, Black racist pseudo "scholars". I didn't even bother to read your quotes because I don't read garbage written by Kill Whitey Black racists or their WINO enablers. You, Mike and the rest of your kill Whitey ilk are the ones that are lying & trying to steal other peoples' history, heritage, identities & homelands, seeking to deny them of what is rightfully theirs. The only truth you have said is that the Romans were also White, dark White (light BROWN skinned) but White none the less. As I said before you & Mike & the rest of your kill Whitey ilk wouldn't know truth if it came up & bit you on your backsides. Kinda hard for me to "take it like a man" considering I'm a female, you dumb idiot. Scholarly my White backside, you, Mike & all your pseudo "scholars" don't know the meaning of the word. Why don't you, Mike & the rest of your kill Whitey Black racist ilk go kill some Whiteys like you desire to do, you'll be all right LOL.
Mike, Awww look yet another Kill Whitey, White people hating Black racist writes yet another garbage toilet paper book attempting to lay claim to other people's identities yet again.
Mena7,
How in the heck are Blacks supposed to do worldwide DNA on populations world wide, what sane White person would agree to submit to a DNA test performed by one of your Black racist cohorts? I know I wouldn't, I wouldn't trust you not to skew the results with your own DNA or lie about the results.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Mike, Awww look yet another Kill Whitey, White people hating Black racist writes yet another garbage toilet paper book attempting to lay claim to other people's identities yet again.
Ah, Doxie dear:
He,he,he:
Those authors are Albinos like yourself.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
clinical delusion, that's Raph's problems. Observe how he calls himself a girl, eventhough he is a man. Observe how he calls an albino writer a black supremacist, eventhough he is an albino.
Namerthoth was right. A state of neuro melanin-deficiency is a killer for the brain...
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Sorry Mike, I'm NOT an Albino but I am White. Any White looking person who writes crap like that is either an anti-White WINO lying to and misleading his/her own people or a Jew pretending to be White like the wicked evil Tim Wise (who is Jewish when it comes to everything else but miraculously become White when it comes to his Anti-White, Kill Whitey hate speeches). You know Mike I think he, you, Ironcocksucker, NonTruthHitman, Narmerdunce, Mena7, Mali, etc could be best buddies & would get along famously, you all have intolerable hatred for Whites & want to exterminate Whitey,look forward to the day the last White person on earth breathes their last breath, maybe you should all try to meet up with him, it'd be a friendship made in hell hehehehehe.
Ironcocksucker,
**** off you worthless pathetic waste of space troll. I say I am a girl because I AM a girl, I was born a girl and will be a girl til the day I die. Your slander & harassment of me is getting old. Come up with something new won't you. No I call the Whites who write that Black supremacist garbage WINOs.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
You need your thyroid meds right now:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: ... Sorry racist scum I'm not on any meds except thyroid medication.
I thought so :
quote: Psychiatric, Psychological and Emotional Aspects of Thyroid Disease i.e. it’s not all in your head!
(See Chapter 10)
It’s a common scenario for hypothyroid patients, especially when you are undiagnosed due to your doctor’s over-reliance on a faulty TSH range, or treated with thyroxine T4-only medications: You go to the doctor; you complain about your depression, or your anxiety, or your emotional swings, or your inability to concentrate…and onto your doctor’s favorite anti-depressant, anti-anxiety, lithium, or bi-polar med you go—beginning with the freebies on the shelf from his friendly and suited pharmaceutical rep. Sound familiar??
But the problem with this scenario is that your depression or anxiety or other mental health problem is not a unique and unrelated illness. It’s most likely due to having a low free T3, the active thyroid hormone, and/or adrenal insufficiency. And this is especially common for patients treated with Synthroid, Levoxyl, Eltoxine, Levothyroxine and other T4-only medications.
^ Ralph is going off the deep end! Like The Liar, he has been exposed as an imposter, and he doesn't like it one bit.
Ralph masquerades as a girl, while The Liar pretends to be black. Is there no end to the negative self hate caused by Albinism?
It really makes you feel bad for these poor diseased saps. I mean, it's not their faults that their parents made poor mating choices leading to the present delusions and need to pretend to be something other than what they are.
Someone needs to start non profit organizations to support and massive chemical treatment for these lepers before it is too late.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
Someone needs to start non profit organizations to support and massive chemical treatment for these lepers before it is too late. [/QB]
what's stopping you?
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ Nothing at all. In fact, I am putting everything in place to start an org called; Help, or Herd Endangered Lepers Program to gather sub-clinical symptom information on whites which will allow them to be identified and treated for their sub-clinical albinism.
This will provide a great start to removing the stigma associated with being identified with OCA.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ Nothing at all. In fact, I am putting everything in place to start an org called; Help, or Herd Endangered Lepers Program to gather sub-clinical symptom information on whites which will allow them to be identified and treated for their sub-clinical albinism.
This will provide a great start to removing the stigma associated with being identified with OCA.
so you mean put white people in concentration camps and shoot them up with drugs?
don't get mad I'm just asking
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
LOL, why would I get mad when all I'm attempting to achieve is a better, more sane world. The only ones who have suggested concentration camps are you, a misleading Kike, and Ralph, The Klansman. Two peas in a confused and fearful pod.
Let us further expose you lie; Where have I suggested placing albinos in a concentration camp?
Take note, due to my frequent usage, you are becoming less sensitive to being called a Kike. As Mike suggested, The word is losing it's power.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Narmer you stupid Black racist idjut, how exactly have I been exposed LOL. You & Ironcocksucker have absolutely no proof that I am not who I say I am. You have NO proof that I am a man or a klansman, or that my name is Ralph, because I am neither & its not. You & the other idiot only state thus because neither of you have the testicular fortitude to pick on a White man so true to form you must pick on a White woman LOL. One question for you & Ironliar, out of curiosity where the heck did you get that I am a man from??? Is it because I stated I don't find Black men attractive & you just can't seem to fathom the idea that a White woman wouldn't rush at the chance to get a Black man LOL???
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: LOL, why would I get mad when all I'm attempting to achieve is a better, more sane world. The only ones who have suggested concentration camps are you, a misleading Kike, and Ralph, The Klansman. Two peas in a confused and fearful pod.
Let us further expose you lie; Where have I suggested placing albinos in a concentration camp?
Take note, due to my frequent usage, you are becoming less sensitive to being called a Kike. As Mike suggested, The word is losing it's power.
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: Help, or Herd Endangered Lepers
you call white people lepers and talk about herding them. You have a lot of hate in your heart, you are not healthy
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: LOL, why would I get mad when all I'm attempting to achieve is a better, more sane world. The only ones who have suggested concentration camps are you, a misleading Kike, and Ralph, The Klansman. Two peas in a confused and fearful pod.
Let us further expose you lie; Where have I suggested placing albinos in a concentration camp?
Take note, due to my frequent usage, you are becoming less sensitive to being called a Kike. As Mike suggested, The word is losing it's power.
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: Help, or Herd Endangered Lepers
you call white people lepers and talk about herding them. You have a lot of hate in your heart, you are not healthy.You are mentally ill.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: One question for you & Ironliar, out of curiosity where the heck did you get that I am a man from??? Is it because I stated I don't find Black men attractive & you just can't seem to fathom the idea that a White woman wouldn't rush at the chance to get a Black man LOL???
I must admit, that's why I started to believe their claim, was I wrong?
Posted by Vansertimavindicated (Member # 20281) on :
an absolute laughingstock. Folks come to laugh LOL
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Yes Van, ES is a laughingstock.
But aren't you, with your Autistic-like repetitive posts, one of the major reasons WHY ES is a laughingstock?
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by Vansertimavindicated: an absolute laughingstock. Folks come to laugh LOL
I know I do. Some of the stuff on here is so ignorant and short-sighted, it has me cracking my ribs.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: LOL, why would I get mad when all I'm attempting to achieve is a better, more sane world. The only ones who have suggested concentration camps are you, a misleading Kike, and Ralph, The Klansman. Two peas in a confused and fearful pod.
Let us further expose you lie; Where have I suggested placing albinos in a concentration camp?
Take note, due to my frequent usage, you are becoming less sensitive to being called a Kike. As Mike suggested, The word is losing it's power.
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: Help, or Herd Endangered Lepers
you call white people lepers and talk about herding them. You have a lot of hate in your heart, you are not healthy.You are mentally ill.
Fool, every description of Lepers indicates they are white. The main symptom of Leprosy is whitened skin, right.
You certainly are one confused Kike. One moment you seem to be able to read when the topic is Anti-black, but once the tables are turned and the light is shown on the Albino, suddenly your reading comprehension plummets down to zero.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: One question for you & Ironliar, out of curiosity where the heck did you get that I am a man from??? Is it because I stated I don't find Black men attractive & you just can't seem to fathom the idea that a White woman wouldn't rush at the chance to get a Black man LOL???
I must admit, that's why I started to believe their claim, was I wrong?
Yes Mike you were dead wrong. I am in fact female & I am in fact White. I have no reason to come on here and front as a White woman, heck if I was gonna front I would've fronted as a Black person LOL. Believe it or not there are lots of White women who prefer White men. I personally prefer White Men & North American Indian men.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Okay, perhaps you ARE a woman:
But then, that means that you are an "irrational" Woman.
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: One question for you & Ironliar, out of curiosity where the heck did you get that I am a man from??? Is it because I stated I don't find Black men attractive & you just can't seem to fathom the idea that a White woman wouldn't rush at the chance to get a Black man LOL???
I must admit, that's why I started to believe their claim, was I wrong?
I think she is mad that we are not hitting on her. She luvs brothas
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: One question for you & Ironliar, out of curiosity where the heck did you get that I am a man from??? Is it because I stated I don't find Black men attractive & you just can't seem to fathom the idea that a White woman wouldn't rush at the chance to get a Black man LOL???
I must admit, that's why I started to believe their claim, was I wrong?
Yes Mike you were dead wrong. I am in fact female & I am in fact White. I have no reason to come on here and front as a White woman, heck if I was gonna front I would've fronted as a Black person LOL. Believe it or not there are lots of White women who prefer White men. I personally prefer White Men & North American Indian men.
First you and your race ARE NOT WHITE YOU ARE RED
Listen the Arab people called WHITE PEOPLE RED PEOPLE READ:
Arabs of the past called people who were “white they called them RED.
In the past, those who had complexions like those who are considered “white” today were called red or Tha’alab
Al Dhahabi says “Red, in the speech of the people from the Hijaz, means fair-complexioned and this color is rare amongst the Arabs.
The Red People applies to the non-Arabs because of their whiteness and because of the fact that most of them are fair-skinned. He says that the Arabs used to call the non-Arabs such as the Romans and the Persians and their neighbors, The Red People.
So the arabs called the ROMANS RED PEOPLE or RED ROMANS
So compare yourn so called WHITE skin to a peice of white paper. now be honest are you realy white?
Or are you a pink red color
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
THESE are Discriptions of VIKINGS from the following SAGAS
There was a man named Thorvard, who was married to Freydis, an illegitimate daughter of Eric's. He also de- cided to go along. With him came Thorhall, who was nicknamed " The Hunter." He and Eric used to go hunt- ing and fishing together in the summer, while in the winter he was Eric's overseer and trusted man. He was huge of stature, dark and glowering, rather beyond mid- dle age; he was a hard man to get along with, mostly taci- turn, but also abusive and underhanded, and he was a bad adviser to Eric.
EYRBYGGJA SAGA
The Ere-Dwellers. 21
Thorhild had three sons
Brand was the eldest ; he dwelt at Crossness by Sealriver head. Another was Arngrim ; he was a big man and a strong, large of nose, big-boned of face, bleak-red of hair, early bald in front ; sallow of hue, his eyes great and fair ; he was very masterful, and exceeding in wrongfulness, and therefore was he called Stir.
HE was discribed as having a Sallow of HUE meaning his skin complexion was High Yellow/LIGHT BROWN
High yellow, occasionally simply yellow. Is a term for persons classified as black who also have a high proportion of white ancestry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_yellow
The Ere-Dwellers. 27
Thorarin the Swart, her son. He was a big man and a strong; ugly he was, and moody and quiet in his daily guise : he was called the Peace- maker. He had not much wealth to boast of, yet was his housekeeping gainful.
Illugi the Black
THESE people were DARK skinn
HISTORICAL Proof;
In other cases, some African descendants simply have naturally lighter-skinned genes than most other Africans, without admixture.
One ethnic group for which light skin is characteristic are the indigenous tribes of the Khoi and San of South Africa. They have noticeably pale, yellow-toned skin, yet have some of the oldest indigenous African DNA on the continent.
Scientific studies conclude that natural human skin color diversity is highest in Sub-Saharan African populations because of the highly diverse population;
many Sub-Saharan Africans and their descendents may be naturally extremely light skinned, with others in their family being naturally extremely dark skinned.
TRUE FACTS
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
TRUTH HITMAN - I wouldn't pay too much attention to those works, the grammar and wording sounds more translator than author.
i.e. "Fair Eyes"???
Sallow complexion???
Isn't that an English word? What word was originally used? Never trust Whitey!
Word Origin & History
Sallow
O.E. salo "dusky, dark" (related to sol "dark, dirty"), from P.Gmc. *salwa- (cf. M.Du. salu "discolored, dirty," O.H.G. salo "dirty gray," O.N. sölr "dirty yellow"), from PIE base *sal- "dirty, gray" (cf. O.C.S. slavojocije "grayish-blue color," Rus. solovoj "cream-colored").
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: TRUTH HITMAN - I wouldn't pay too much attention to those works, the grammar and wording sounds more translator than author.
i.e. "Fair Eyes"???
Sallow complexion???
Isn't that an English word? What word was originally used? Never trust Whitey!
Word Origin & History
Sallow
O.E. salo "dusky, dark" (related to sol "dark, dirty"), from P.Gmc. *salwa- (cf. M.Du. salu "discolored, dirty," O.H.G. salo "dirty gray," O.N. sölr "dirty yellow"), from PIE base *sal- "dirty, gray" (cf. O.C.S. slavojocije "grayish-blue color," Rus. solovoj "cream-colored").
Question what makes these so called whitepeople think they have brown or swarthy skin?
Its stupid everytime I post anything regarding skin color from Europe like dark ruddy tawny why do they think it is them? is it because of blumebachs color classifications bull Darwinism what ?
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: TRUTH HITMAN - I wouldn't pay too much attention to those works, the grammar and wording sounds more translator than author.
i.e. "Fair Eyes"???
Sallow complexion???
Isn't that an English word? What word was originally used? Never trust Whitey!
Word Origin & History
Sallow
O.E. salo "dusky, dark" (related to sol "dark, dirty"), from P.Gmc. *salwa- (cf. M.Du. salu "discolored, dirty," O.H.G. salo "dirty gray," O.N. sölr "dirty yellow"), from PIE base *sal- "dirty, gray" (cf. O.C.S. slavojocije "grayish-blue color," Rus. solovoj "cream-colored").
GREAT post DAM I fell for their lying Wiki pedia BULLSHIT LIES DAM!
Thankx Brotha I will now on use the online etymology dictionary it gave me a totaly differnet definition than thesaurus that I used
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: TRUTH HITMAN - I wouldn't pay too much attention to those works, the grammar and wording sounds more translator than author.
i.e. "Fair Eyes"???
Sallow complexion???
Isn't that an English word? What word was originally used? Never trust Whitey!
Word Origin & History
Sallow
O.E. salo "dusky, dark" (related to sol "dark, dirty"), from P.Gmc. *salwa- (cf. M.Du. salu "discolored, dirty," O.H.G. salo "dirty gray," O.N. sölr "dirty yellow"), from PIE base *sal- "dirty, gray" (cf. O.C.S. slavojocije "grayish-blue color," Rus. solovoj "cream-colored").
Question what makes these so called whitepeople think they have brown or swarthy skin?
Its stupid everytime I post anything regarding skin color from Europe like dark ruddy tawny why do they think it is them? is it because of blumebachs color classifications bull Darwinism what ?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^Duncey, what is that supposed to mean? Is your myopia flaring up?
Pink-red is not the same as brown/yellow.
Stop the duncey trolling!
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
______________________________________________Carlo de Medici
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: TRUTH HITMAN - I wouldn't pay too much attention to those works, the grammar and wording sounds more translator than author.
i.e. "Fair Eyes"???
Sallow complexion???
Isn't that an English word? What word was originally used? Never trust Whitey!
Word Origin & History
Sallow
O.E. salo "dusky, dark" (related to sol "dark, dirty"), from P.Gmc. *salwa- (cf. M.Du. salu "discolored, dirty," O.H.G. salo "dirty gray," O.N. sölr "dirty yellow"), from PIE base *sal- "dirty, gray" (cf. O.C.S. slavojocije "grayish-blue color," Rus. solovoj "cream-colored").
GREAT post DAM I fell for their lying Wiki pedia BULLSHIT LIES DAM!
Thankx Brotha I will now on use the online etymology dictionary it gave me a totaly differnet definition than thesaurus that I used
^Getting taken in and learning from the experience is part of the process.
BTW - You seem to be the only one seriously researching at this time, so please keep us in the loop.
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Lionness great picture of Carlo De Medici and that Turk mulato.The majority of Citizen of Ancient Rome and Italy look like that Turk metis/mulato.The Fayoum potrait of Roman show them as dark skin metis/ mulato.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by mena7: Lionness great picture of Carlo De Medici and that Turk mulato.The majority of Citizen of Ancient Rome and Italy look like that Turk metis/mulato.The Fayoum potrait of Roman show them as dark skin metis/ mulato.
The Carlo De Medici portrait is likely a fake.
Fayum mummy portraits depict Black, Albino, and Mulatto Romans.
Sorry (well not really) NoTruthhitman but as I said before I don't read anything you, Mike, or any of the rest of your Kill Whitey ilk write because I don't read Kill Whitey, White people hating Black racist garbage, nor do I believe a dang word you or any of your White people hating Black racist ilk says. You mfers will not stop until you have robbed my people of everything that is rightfully ours. Your goal is effectively write us out of history. To rob us of our history, our heritage, our identities, our homeland. You would have our youth walking through this world thinking they have no history of any kind, no heritage of any kind, no identity, no ancestors, no homeland to call their own, knowing not who they are & where they came from. I will not allow that to happen as my people have a right to what is ours, we have a right to our history, our heritage, our identities, our homeland, we have the right to lay claim to our ancestors. All of this you want to deny us of, of course we all know that you, Mike & the rest of your kill Whitey ilk will not be happy until the last White child is born & the last White man/woman/child breathes their last & we are effectively wiped out.
Mike, exactly why am I irrational?? Because I'm a White woman who refuses to allow a Black man to bed her without a hell of a fight? Because I refuse to allow you to deny my people of our history, our heritage, our identities, our homeland? Because I speak the truth of your's, NoTruthhitman's, Ironcocksucker's, Narmer's, Mena7's, Mali's, etc desire to genocide Whitey? If that makes me irrational then I don't want to be rational LOL. Ohh btw Mike, it should be don't trust Blackey especially if you're White LOL ROTFLMBO.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by mena7: [qb] Lionness great picture of Carlo De Medici and that Turk mulato.The majority of Citizen of Ancient Rome and Italy look like that Turk metis/mulato.The Fayoum potrait of Roman show them as dark skin metis/ mulato.
The Carlo De Medici portrait is likely a fake.
That is an Ironlion approved portrait of Carlo Medici. He has a much earlier post in an old thread where he uses the same portrait as proof that Carlo Medici's was a Muur.
Besides his features are not that different from many Persians at Persepolis even though he wasn't Persian.
what's your problem Muurs can't have straight hair ?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
Besides his features are not that different from many Persians at Persepolis even though he wasn't Persian.
what's your problem Muurs can't have straight hair ?
Show me an authentic picture of a Persian who looks like that, or who has straight hair.
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: TRUTH HITMAN - I wouldn't pay too much attention to those works, the grammar and wording sounds more translator than author.
i.e. "Fair Eyes"???
Sallow complexion???
Isn't that an English word? What word was originally used? Never trust Whitey!
Word Origin & History
Sallow
O.E. salo "dusky, dark" (related to sol "dark, dirty"), from P.Gmc. *salwa- (cf. M.Du. salu "discolored, dirty," O.H.G. salo "dirty gray," O.N. sölr "dirty yellow"), from PIE base *sal- "dirty, gray" (cf. O.C.S. slavojocije "grayish-blue color," Rus. solovoj "cream-colored").
Question what makes these so called whitepeople think they have brown or swarthy skin?
Its stupid everytime I post anything regarding skin color from Europe like dark ruddy tawny why do they think it is them? is it because of blumebachs color classifications bull Darwinism what ?
HEY sis those pics you posted none of those people have DARK skin only the hair is dark and everyone on earth has Black Hair it is the most common hair color.
The skin tone of these people is a white pink tone to their skin with the black hair and black stubble on the face does not make these white people dark skin or dark or swarthy or Ruddy or tawny
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Sorry (well not really) NoTruthhitman but as I said before I don't read anything you, Mike, or any of the rest of your Kill Whitey ilk write because I don't read Kill Whitey, White people hating Black racist garbage, nor do I believe a dang word you or any of your White people hating Black racist ilk says. You mfers will not stop until you have robbed my people of everything that is rightfully ours. Your goal is effectively write us out of history. To rob us of our history, our heritage, our identities, our homeland. You would have our youth walking through this world thinking they have no history of any kind, no heritage of any kind, no identity, no ancestors, no homeland to call their own, knowing not who they are & where they came from. I will not allow that to happen as my people have a right to what is ours, we have a right to our history, our heritage, our identities, our homeland, we have the right to lay claim to our ancestors. All of this you want to deny us of, of course we all know that you, Mike & the rest of your kill Whitey ilk will not be happy until the last White child is born & the last White man/woman/child breathes their last & we are effectively wiped out.
Mike, exactly why am I irrational?? Because I'm a White woman who refuses to allow a Black man to bed her without a hell of a fight? Because I refuse to allow you to deny my people of our history, our heritage, our identities, our homeland? Because I speak the truth of your's, NoTruthhitman's, Ironcocksucker's, Narmer's, Mena7's, Mali's, etc desire to genocide Whitey? If that makes me irrational then I don't want to be rational LOL. Ohh btw Mike, it should be don't trust Blackey especially if you're White LOL ROTFLMBO.
This is youir comment "you have robbed my people of everything that is rightfully ours"
Right fully yours HA what is yours? to our history, our heritage, our identities, our homeland. What! YOUR RACE is LYING better your MASS media not your scholars Some of them Tell the TRUTH and some of your scholars LIE and assume like you are doing.
here are more WHITE Scholars who you claim to be RACIST, HATE WHITEY, KILL WHITEY, AFROCENTRIST White men
1, Afro centrist white man Prof Alexander Winchell
Quote: The Pelasgric Empire was at its meridian as early as 2500 B.C. These people came from the islands of the AEGEAN, and more remotely from ASIA MINOR. They were originaly a branch of the SUNBURNT HAMITIC RACE STOCK, that laid the basis of CIVIILIZATION in Canaan and MESOPOTAMIA, destined later to be SEMITIZED.
If you dont know the Pelasgric Empire is also called ancient GREECE he said that they were SUN BURNT PEOPLE he did not say that they were WHITE LIKE YOU. \
So what you need to do is STOP STEALING BLACK PEOPLES HISTORY and CLAIMING IT TO BE YOURS.
Want more White afrocentrists
1. Lerna Hollow. Al B. Wesolowsky. Hesperia, Vol. 42, No. 3. (Jul. - Sep., 1973), pp. 340-351
Lets see what a negro luvin white woman scientist has to say about skulls found in ancient reece
"The female of forty-plus years of age from Grave 2 was examined by J. L. Angel who noted what he interpreted as a number of 'negroid' .. traits in the face." The skull is fairly complete, but not enough so for discriminant function analysis." There is marked maxillary prognathism and the orbits may be described as rectangular, traits frequently used in forensic diagnosis of Negro crania... "
QUOTE: "The female from Grave 2 is among those with thickened parietals. It should be pointed out that maxillary prognathsm, one of the skeleton's "Negroid" features, is characteristic both of thalassemia and sickle-cell anemia."
I guess she hates her own race huh? This white woman Hates her race right?
YOU were not a MYCEANEAN
4. The Home of the Heroes: The Aegean Before the Greeks (1967)
The inhabitants of the Aegean area in the Bronze Age may have been much like many people in the Mediterranean basin today, short and slight of build with dark hair and eyes and sallow complexions. Skeletons show that the population of the Aegean was already mixed by Neolithic times, and various facial types, some with delicate features and pointed noses, others pug-nosed, almost negroid, are depicted in wall paintings from the 16th century BC
a pug nose means that is a feature only common to negroes.
THE EVOLUTION OF HUMAN SKIN AND SKIN COLOR Annual Review of Anthropology Vol. 33: 585-623 (Volume publication date October 2004) First published online as a Review in Advance on June 21, 2004 DOI: 10.1146/annurev.anthro.33.070203.143955 Nina G. Jablonski Department of Anthropology, California Academy of Sciences, San Francisco.
AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF PHYSICAL ANTHROPOLOGISTS MEETING European Skin Turned Pale Only Recently, Gene Suggests
Ann Gibbons
PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA-- At the American Association of Physical Anthropologists meeting, held here from 28 to 31 March, a new report on the evolution of a gene for skin color suggested that Europeans acquired pale skin quite recently, perhaps only 6000 to 12,000 years ago.
As demonstrated by Hitman's link, Albinos of a hundred years ago, freely admitted that Albinos MOVED into Europe and were NOT "Native" to Europe. Further, they admitted that the original Europeans were Black people.
So knowing your interest in U.S. media, visa Vie the Jews. Did Jews create these historical lies? And if so, Why?
THIS MATERIAL IS FROM HITMANS LINK:
The North American Review
The North American Review (NAR) was the first literary magazine in the United States. Founded in Boston in 1815 by journalist Nathan Hale and others, it was published continuously until 1940.
Until the founding of the Atlantic Monthly in 1857, the NAR was the foremost publication in New England and probably the entire United States.[citation needed] For all its lasting impact on American literature and institutions, however, the Review had no more than 3000 subscribers in its heyday.
The NAR's first editor, William Tudor (1779-1830), and other founders had been members of Boston's Anthology Club, and launched The North American Review to foster a genuine American culture. In its first few years the NAR published poetry, fiction, and miscellaneous essays on a bi-monthly schedule, but in 1818 it became a quarterly with more focused contents intent on improving society and on elevating culture. The NAR promoted the improvement of public education and administration, with reforms in secondary schools, sound professional training of doctors and lawyers, rehabilitation of prisoners at the state penitentiary, and government by educated experts.
The NAR's editors and contributors included several literary and political New Englanders as John Adams, George Bancroft, Nathaniel Bowditch, William Cullen Bryant, Lewis Cass, Edward T. Channing, Caleb Cushing, Richard Henry Dana, Sr., Alexander Hill Everett, Edward Everett, Jared Sparks, George Ticknor, Gulian C. Verplanck, and Daniel Webster. Please note this entry from:
The North American Review Volume 0139 Issue 334 (Sept 1884) Title: Our Remote Ancestry [pp. 246-256] Author: Winchell, Alexander, Prof. Collection: Journals: North American Review (1815 - 1900)
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: TRUTH HITMAN - I wouldn't pay too much attention to those works, the grammar and wording sounds more translator than author.
i.e. "Fair Eyes"???
Sallow complexion???
Isn't that an English word? What word was originally used? Never trust Whitey!
Word Origin & History
Sallow
O.E. salo "dusky, dark" (related to sol "dark, dirty"), from P.Gmc. *salwa- (cf. M.Du. salu "discolored, dirty," O.H.G. salo "dirty gray," O.N. sölr "dirty yellow"), from PIE base *sal- "dirty, gray" (cf. O.C.S. slavojocije "grayish-blue color," Rus. solovoj "cream-colored").
Question what makes these so called whitepeople think they have brown or swarthy skin?
Its stupid everytime I post anything regarding skin color from Europe like dark ruddy tawny why do they think it is them? is it because of blumebachs color classifications bull Darwinism what ?
HEY sis those pics you posted none of those people have DARK skin only the hair is dark and everyone on earth has Black Hair it is the most common hair color.
The skin tone of these people is a white pink tone to their skin with the black hair and black stubble on the face does not make these white people dark skin or dark or swarthy or Ruddy or tawny
Nigerian writer and Professor Wale Soyinka
^^^ As we can see the brown skinned Turk is darker than this particular Nigerian man
^^^^ An Egyptian man with the reddish tonned brown you see in some the Egyptian art
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Garamantes were also call Grimaldi.They were black.They and their Pelasgians black cousins were call first men by the Greek.Sahara was the home of the Garamantes.Ancestor Garamas was the first of man.Akan were children of the Garamante people.There is cultural and genetic link between the Garramante and West African of the Niger-Congo people ancestor of Bantu and Kwa peoples.The Garammantes/Grimaldi also called Khoisan were the ancestor of modern man.Grimaldi artifact terracota figurines dating 40,000 bc find in France, Germany, Rumania, Austria, France, Italy all over Europe.The Grimaldi were know as the horse drawn chariot people.They lived before Adam Prof Catherine Acholonu.
The Garammantes, Pelasgian, Nagas were the same black African people from the green Sahara Maa/Agade confederation that disperse worldwide to create civilization after the Sahara become a desert.
Lioness the two Turks are metis/mulato/half black/blue blood they look like Cuban, Brazilian,Mexican etc.Nice picture of Nigerian nobel prize writer poet Wale Soyinka with its nice white wooly hair.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Nontruthhitman, Sorry again didn't read all your crap. I don't read crap written by Kill Whitey, White people hating, Black racists like yourself, Mike & the rest of your kill Whitey ilk, nor do I read garbage by their WINO enablers either. Yes those people hate their own people, I believe you call them Uncle Toms & Aunt Jemimas in your people, we Whites call them WINOs in ours LOL. I know its hard for your Kill Whitey, White people hating Black racist mind to grasp. You can't comprehend how some WINOs can hate their people as much if not more than you & your ilk hate us, so much so that they would try to brainwash the White youth into giving up their history, their heritage, their identities leaving themselves with nothing. That they would lie to the White youth leaving them identityless, homeless, historyless, heritageless, leaving them walking through this world knowing not who they are, where they came from, & who their ancestors were.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: That they would lie to the White youth leaving them identityless, homeless, historyless, heritageless, leaving them walking through this world knowing not who they are, where they came from, & who their ancestors were.
Damn Doxie, haven't you been paying attention? All they have to do is ask me.
BTW - What is a WINO?
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
ROTLMWBO, Mike Mike Mike, I wouldn't trust you to teach my dog how to sit, what the heck makes you think that a White people genocidist like yourself should be trusted with the future of Whites ie the White youth? Your's, Nontruthhitman's, Narmer's, Kikuyu's, Mena7's, Mali's & ilk's idea of the future is one where me & my people have been eradicated from the planet. All you'd do is lie to the White youth filling their heads with your lies & nonsense. WINO= White In Name Only aka Anti-White Whites, Whites who hate Whites, hate being White, love to lie to Whites, do everything they can to harm Whites, salivate & rub their hands in glee at the thought of no more Whites, etc etc, you get the point. You know the White version of well YOU LOL.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
John Brown (May 9, 1800 – December 2, 1859) was an American abolitionist who used violent actions to fight slavery. During 1856 in Kansas, Brown commanded forces at the Battle of Black Jack and the Battle of Osawatomie. Brown's followers also killed five pro-slavery supporters at Pottawatomie. In 1859, Brown led an unsuccessful raid on the federal armory at Harpers Ferry that ended with his capture. Brown's trial resulted in his conviction and a sentence of death by hanging.
Brown's attempt in 1859 to start a liberation movement among enslaved African Americans in Harpers Ferry, Virginia electrified the nation. He was tried for treason against the Commonwealth of Virginia, the murder of five pro-slavery Southerners and inciting a slave insurrection. He was found guilty on all counts and was hanged. Southerners alleged that his rebellion was the tip of the abolitionist iceberg and represented the wishes of the Republican Party to end slavery. Historians agree that the Harpers Ferry raid in 1859 escalated tensions that, a year later, led to secession and the American Civil War.
Brown first gained attention when he led small groups of volunteers during the Bleeding Kansas crisis. Unlike most other Northerners, who advocated peaceful resistance to the pro-slavery faction, Brown demanded violent action in response to Southern aggression. He believed he was the instrument of God's wrath in punishing men for the sin of owning slaves.
When humankind returns to normal, he will probably be declared a Saint.
There are many Saints whose Bios are very similar to his, but I didn't feel like looking them up.
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Great story Mike I didnt know about John Brown a white abolitionist who use violence to free black slave.He was trying to start a slave revolution.He was executed for killing pro slavery peoples while trying to free the slave. The main stream media and academia never talk about John Brown.Maybe he was the inspiration for white bunty hunter Scwartz in Django enchained.
Mike not all white people are evil,albino John Brown is a good exemple.Abolitionists John Brown, Nat Turner, Queen Nzinga, Kimpa Vita, Toussaint Louverture should be canonized as saint by the worldwide black community.
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ______________________________________________Carlo de Medici
Hey sis the Turk is not as dark as the Brotha look again. That turk is RED because of his white skin. Also Mena7 is right as well.
White people and so called Turks are different Shades of RED. To prove that lets go to the arab sources.
Tha’alab in Arabic means RED in the Arabic language.
Arabic scholar Ibn Mandour says that the expression The Red People applies to the non-Arabs because of their whiteness and because of the fact that most of them are fair-skinned. He says that the Arabs used to call the non-Arabs such as the Romans and the Persians and their neighbors, The Red People.
So the Macadonians Romans and Turks were all called RED PEOPLE THE Hebrews also called the White race EDOM which means RED.
Remember the Mamelukes Turks and ALL Turks were decendants of the Romans and Macadonians that migrated through war into the EAST.
This is a statistic of how many Dark skinn nations fell by the White mans sword.
Alexander the Great (r. 336-325 BCE) BLACK DEATH TOLL.
Very conservative figures suggest that in the space of just eight years Alexander the Great had slain well over 200,000 men in pitched battle alone, over 40,000 of them BLACK Greeks .... More Greeks in two engagements than had fallen in the entire history of pitched battle among city-states."
Granicus: 20,000 Persians and 15-18,000 Greek mercenaries in Persian service.
Issus: 50-100,000 Persians and 20,000 Greek mercenaries in Persian service.
Gaugamela: 50,000 Persians + a few thousand Greek mercs
20,000 Indians at Hydaspes
Conservative estimate of a quarter million urban residents massacred, 334-324 BCE, include:
This artifact CLEARLY shows a Macadonian white man killing a NEGRO Persian soilder.
See sis See what happen 2,000 yrs ago.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] ______________________________________________Carlo de Medici
Hey sis the Turk is not as dark as the Brotha look again. That turk is RED because of his white skin. Also Mena7 is right as well.
White people and so called Turks are different Shades of RED. To prove that lets go to the arab sources.
Tha’alab in Arabic means RED in the Arabic language.
Arabic scholar Ibn Mandour says that the expression The Red People applies to the non-Arabs because of their whiteness and because of the fact that most of them are fair-skinned. He says that the Arabs used to call the non-Arabs such as the Romans and the Persians and their neighbors, The Red People.
You see this Egyptian, he is redder than the Turk. The Turk is dark skinned. He is brown. The fact that he has a slight bit of reddish on his cheek does not undo the fact that he is dark skinned and brown. It's a tint, it doesn't change the dark/light level of the color
_____________________________________the color RED
I don't go by ancent Arab definitions.
As we can see, I changed the photos to black and white with no adjustments. Color and darkness are two different things
^^^^high yellow
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: ROTLMWBO, Mike Mike Mike, I wouldn't trust you to teach my dog how to sit, what the heck makes you think that a White people genocidist like yourself should be trusted with the future of Whites ie the White youth? Your's, Nontruthhitman's, Narmer's, Kikuyu's, Mena7's, Mali's & ilk's idea of the future is one where me & my people have been eradicated from the planet. All you'd do is lie to the White youth filling their heads with your lies & nonsense. WINO= White In Name Only aka Anti-White Whites, Whites who hate Whites, hate being White, love to lie to Whites, do everything they can to harm Whites, salivate & rub their hands in glee at the thought of no more Whites, etc etc, you get the point. You know the White version of well YOU LOL.
Well I will show you how STUPID you realy are check this out This is from your boi your pal THOMAS HUXLEY He was Responsible for spreading WHITE SURPREMIST attitudes into the school systems
HE was known as "Darwin's Bulldog" for his advocacy of Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.
Sounds like your type of guy huh? He says he believes in NATURAL SLECTION or WHITE SURPREMACY.
So in other words he thinks the white man was the Gaul or the Greek huh? Whites came out of Europe Huh? Well I will show you a HYPORCRITICAL SURPRISE from MR. Thomas Huxley
In view of the many discussions to which the complicated problems offered by the ethnology of the British Islands have given rise, it may be use- ful to attempt to pick out, from amidst the con- fused masses of assertion and of inference, those propositions which appear to rest upon a secure foundation, and to state the evidence by which they are supported. Such is the purpose of the present paper.
Some of these well-based propositions relate to the physical characters of the people of Britain and their neighbours; while others concern the languages which they spoke. I shall deal, in the first place, with the physical questions.
Eighteen hundred years ago the population of Britain comprised people of two types of com- plexion — the one fair, and the other dark. The 254
dark people resembled the Aquitani and the Iberi- ans; the fair people were like the Belgic Gauls.
The chief direct evidence of the truth of this proposition is the well-known passage of Tacitus-
11. Who were the original inhabitants of Britain, whether they were indigenous or foreign, is, as usual among barbarians, little known. Their physical characteristics are various, and from these conclusions may be drawn. The red hair and large limbs of the inhabitants of Caledonia point clearly to a German origin. The dark complexion of the Silures, their usually curly hair, and the fact that Spain is the opposite shore to them, are an evidence that Iberians of a former date crossed over and occupied these parts. Those who are nearest to the Gauls are also like them, either from the permanent influence of original descent, or, because in countries which run out so far to meet each other, climate has produced similar physical qualities.
This passage, it will be observed, contains state- ments as to facts, and certain conclusions deduced from these facts. The matters of fact asserted are: firstly, that the inhabitants of Britain exhibit much diversity in their physical characters; sec- ondly, that the Caledonians are red-haired and large-limbed, like the Germans; thirdly, that the Silures have curly hair and dark complexions, like the people of Spain; fourthly, that the British peo- ple nearest Gaul resemble the " Galli."
Tacitus, therefore, states positively what the Caledonians and Silures were like; but the inter- pretation of what he says about the other Britons
The evidence adduced appears to leave no rea- sonable ground for doubting that, at the time of the Roman conquest, Britain contained people of two types, the one dark and the other fair com- plexioned, and that there was a certain difference between the latter in the north and in the south of Britain: the northern folk being, in the judg- ment of Tacitus, or, more properly, according to the information he had received from Agricola and others, more similar to the Germans than the latter.
As to the distribution of these stocks, all that is clear is, that the dark people were predominant in certain parts of the west of the southern half of Britain, while the fair stock appears to have furnished the chief elements of the population elsewhere.
According to this WHITE SURPREMIST HYPORCRITE in 1871 he said that in Early Britain NOTHING BUT BLACK ABORIGINES Ruled lived and spread ALL OVER BRITAIN AND EASTERN EUROPE
This info lets us know that these white scholars know dam well that negroe Aboriginal people ruled Europe.
It also lets us know that DARWINISM is a DAM LIE!
They are just useing this lie to keep pushin White surpremacy to the masses. See thats why you are confussed Dixie you are thinking like a Fake white surpremists. WAKE UP!
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Hehehehe Mike you just proved what I've been saying about you all along LOL. You want all Whites exterminated. Of course you'd love Whites who hate their own after all you hate Whites as well so they are your best buddies LOL ROTFLMBO. BTW, Mike John Brown was a good man who just went about trying to get slavery abolished the wrong way. BTW Mike I've got a question for you, let's say the roles were reversed & it was Whites who were enslaved by Blacks, would you be a Black John Brown & fight your Black brothers to free Whitey??? I somehow doubt it LOL, you'd more than likely be a slave owner yourself LOL.
Sorry (well not really) Nontruthhitman, again I didn't read much of your Black racist garbage post. BTW a White person claiming our rightful history, heritage, identity, & homeland is NOT being White supremacist you White people genocidist, kill Whitey Black racist half wit.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: BTW Mike I've got a question for you, let's say the roles were reversed & it was Whites who were enslaved by Blacks, would you be a Black John Brown & fight your Black brothers to free Whitey??? I somehow doubt it LOL, you'd more than likely be a slave owner yourself LOL.
Doxie dear, don't you spend ANY time trying to learn something???
Blacks were enslaving people, and the Albinos as they showed up, for as long as history has been recorded.
Recent works suggest that more Blacks owned Slaves in the South than Whites (Both Black and White Slaves). But Whites owning the greater number of Slaves.
The first owner of a Slave in the United States was a Black man.
As you know for some time I have grouped Ignorant Albinos like yourself, and Negroes together. The reasons must now be clear, both groups appear to be mentally challenged.
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] ______________________________________________Carlo de Medici
Hey sis the Turk is not as dark as the Brotha look again. That turk is RED because of his white skin. Also Mena7 is right as well.
White people and so called Turks are different Shades of RED. To prove that lets go to the arab sources.
Tha’alab in Arabic means RED in the Arabic language.
Arabic scholar Ibn Mandour says that the expression The Red People applies to the non-Arabs because of their whiteness and because of the fact that most of them are fair-skinned. He says that the Arabs used to call the non-Arabs such as the Romans and the Persians and their neighbors, The Red People.
You see this Egyptian, he is redder than the Turk. The Turk is dark skinned. He is brown. The fact that he has a slight bit of reddish on his cheek does not undo the fact that he is dark skinned and brown. It's a tint, it doesn't change the dark/light level of the color
_____________________________________the color RED
I don't go by ancent Arab definitions.
As we can see, I changed the photos to black and white with no adjustments. Color and darkness are two different things
^^^^high yellow
Not true The Turk is RED and the Egyptian Is RUDDY meaning reddish he is a Reddish brown skin tone. I have the same complexion. Its Brown with a RED tone
The Brown skin brotha is brown and the Turk is REDDISH PINK even in your color comparison the Turks skin is a RED PINK color the brotha is brown and the Egyptian is RUDDY BROWN.
See They are considered RED People because of the REDDISH Pink tone to their skin.
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: BTW Mike I've got a question for you, let's say the roles were reversed & it was Whites who were enslaved by Blacks, would you be a Black John Brown & fight your Black brothers to free Whitey??? I somehow doubt it LOL, you'd more than likely be a slave owner yourself LOL.
Doxie dear, don't you spend ANY time trying to learn something???
Blacks were enslaving people, and the Albinos as they showed up, for as long as history has been recorded.
Recent works suggest that more Blacks owned Slaves in the South than Whites (Both Black and White Slaves). But Whites owning the greater number of Slaves.
The first owner of a Slave in the United States was a Black man.
As you know for some time I have grouped Ignorant Albinos like yourself, and Negroes together. The reasons must now be clear, both groups appear to be mentally challenged.
Good post bra! Hey do you have those book sources specialy the first black slave owner I need that info!
THANKX
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
TRUTH HITMAN - If you google "Antonio the negro"/Anthony Johnson or John Casor, a Black man employed by Johnson, who had been imported as a "seven or eight yeares" indentured servant: you will get all the info that you need.
BUT! You might miss the lesson.
Please re-read Doxies statement:
Now as you know, Egyptians, Sumerians, just about all of the first Civilizations, kept Slaves. So what would make Doxie say something that stupid?
Then re-read MKs posts on the "Curse of Ham", and you start to see where ignorant Albinos got their nonsense from.
But there is still more to it:
John Casor clearly started out as an indentured servant. Ever hear of anyone going to Africa to recruit indentured servants???
So clearly as I have said, most Black Americans were in fact Europeans.
All of the adds up to a concerted effort by the Albinos to steal and falsify Black history. But luckily some Blacks innately know when the Albinos are lying, and are thus spurred to look for the truth - MK obviously falls into that category. But sadly many Negroes just lap up the Albinos lies.
BTW - If you look-up those Ham passages in on-line Bibles, you will find that they have been changed. They know that we're watching them now.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Genesis 9:18 And the sons of Noah, that went forth from the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth; and Ham is the father of Canaan. Genesis 9:19 These three were the sons of Noah, and of these was the whole earth overspread. Genesis 9:20 And Noah the husbandman began, and planted a vineyard. Genesis 9:21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. Genesis 9:22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. Genesis 9:23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness. Genesis 9:24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his youngest son had done unto him. Genesis 9:25 And he said: Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. Genesis 9:26 And he said: Blessed be the LORD, the God of Shem; and let Canaan be their servant. Genesis 9:27 God enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and let Canaan be their servant. Genesis 9:28 And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years. Genesis 9:29 And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years; and he died.
Notice there is no racial inference to the new quotations at all. This is probably what the original quotations looked like. I don't know when the Albinos started to use religious books to further their lies and false histories, but my guess is it was sometime after the "Thirty Years Wars".
Politically the point of this was that at the time of the first Israel, the Canaanites were in the position of the Palestinians.
That is, it was their land that the Hebrews had invaded. Those passages were just "Trumped-up" excuses for stealing their land.
Clearly those taking religious books to be anything other than contemporary mans dogma are set for problems. Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
^^ The same Afroloon trojan horse equating anyone with the slightest "dark" skin to Black (note capital), despite the fact these people are not Negroid.
Why the obsession with skin colour, when that is one the least useful criteria in race type identification? Craniometry and hair texture is far more useful and reliable.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
quote:According to this WHITE SURPREMIST HYPORCRITE in 1871 he said that in Early Britain NOTHING BUT BLACK ABORIGINES Ruled lived and spread ALL OVER BRITAIN AND EASTERN EUROPE
Afroloon get your eyes checked. Tacitus describes the silures as swarthy, nothing more. That doesn't equate to "Black". The people Tacitus was describing were Caucasoid. Anyway, goodbye.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers: Why the obsession with skin colour, when that is one the least useful criteria in race type identification? Craniometry and hair texture is far more useful and reliable.
Hey Cass, where have you been hiding? Lioness has been laying in wait, as the current material gives no occasion to introduce new lies. But I see that has not stopped you, but then again, you're special, aren't you.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN:
See They are considered RED People because of the REDDISH Pink tone to their skin. [/QB]
I don't go by ancient Arab definitions. I live in modern times where we can be precise
please Listen to me carefully
The top color is lighter than the bottom color. The fact that the colors are both different shades of the same color , in English , "blue", is irrelevant to the question of which is darker or lighter.
I can tell you that the top color is lighter and don't have to mention the name of the color at all because that wasn't the question. The name of the color doesn't matter. The top color is lighter than the bottom color
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Really Lioness, that's pretty lame. Why not just wait, sooner or later you will get an opening for your lies.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
when the truth slaps you in the face you call it lame
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Yep I try to learn something new everyday Mike, however I have learned NOTHING & will not learn anything from the likes of your Kill Whitey crew of Black racists & your Kill Whitey crew of Black racist pseudo scholars & your WINO enablers as I will not hear & don't believe a dang thing any of you say. I know that its all about Get Whitey, Kill Whitey, Get him, Kill Him. I see you wouldn't answer my question Mike, why's that? Because you know what the answer already is LOL. IMO, my question is a good question as it exposes you & your ilks' hatred for Whites & your hypocrisy. Dumb ass you haven't told me anything I didn't already know, I already knew that the first slave owner in America was Black & that he owned both Black & White slaves duh. Nothing will change the fact that it is YOU & your White people gencidist crew who are falsifying history. Narmer, Nontruthhitman,Mena7, Kikuyu, Clyde, Mark any of you want to take a crack at my question LOL????
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Doxie dear, I am so glad that you already knew those things. You know, I was very concerned that those things would come as a shock to you, and maybe cause you to question Albino lies. That because I was afraid that you would want to change sides, and from how you describe yourself, you are too Pale to "Pass", so there is nothing that I could find for you.
Posted by HERU (Member # 6085) on :
Gwyn Jones made it clear in A History of the Vikings that in no way were the various tribes who made up the Vikings a distinct race.
I know of certain dark-skinned individuals from the Viking Age like Eyesteinn, Egill Skallagrimsson and the Heljarskin twins.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
HERU - Thanks for getting us back to the topic.
A History of the Vikings By Gwyn Jones
Page 76 The Norsemen in Kiev in 1018, despite their unquestioned Swedish origin, were described by Thietmar of Merseburg ( Prince-Bishop of Merseburg Germany, 1009–1018 ) as being for the most part Danes. The Irish annalists were a lesson to all with their division of Norse invaders into White Foreigners, Norwegians (Finn-gaill), and Black Foreigners, Danes (Dubh-gaill), but it was a lesson no one heeded; nor do we know why they distinguished them by colour.
Page 77 The Welsh chroniclers, for example, made no such clear distinction. The Danes coming in by way of England and the Norwegians coming in by way of Ireland were pretty well all black: Black Gentiles (y Kenedloed Duon), Black Norsemen (y Normanyeit Duon), Black Host, Pagans, Devils and the like.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Having established that Europe was once "TEEMING" with Blacks:
Am I still the only one asking:
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BLACK PEOPLE OF EUROPE???
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Of course I'm not the only one who understands this history, and of course I'm not really the only one asking the question:
I suspect that those Blacks puzzling about this, and those who just can't believe it, are differentiated by place of origin. That is why I would really love to know the ethnicity of Lamin. I think he is an Albino Mole, but I'm not sure. Africans do seem to have odd thinking on a number of things.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Of course there are African exceptions to the rule:
Retake Your Fame: Black Contribution To World Civilization, Volume 1 By Aylmer Von Fleischer
(The author was born in Accra, G h a n a and has taught history in his native country).
But even intelligent people like Von Fleischer fail to ask the logical question:
WHERE ARE THOSE MILLIONS OF BLACK PEOPLE TODAY???
He and the others are intelligent people, so it can't be that they never thought of asking the question.
So it MUST be that they are afraid of the answer! Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^THE ANSWER......
This wasn't the Albinos first time!
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Mike when the word "black" is used in discsussions of some vikings does it apply to skin or hair type? If it applies to skin do they mean somebody who has an afro or somebody who looks like an Asian Indian or somebody who looks like a Sicilian. Obvioulsy much of the world is brown but older authors don't use the word and some ancient writers didn't even have a word for brown. Anyway I came across an interesting forum entry on anthroscape aka forum biodiversity. One of the moderators is name Crimson Guard I think he may even own the site. he is considerd to be somewhat of a white supremacist. Charlie Bass is also is a member aka Game Theory and sometimes battles him and others there. beyoku is also a member.
ironically he uses Wiercinski as a source on Egyptian morphology. Clyde cited Wiercinski on Olmecs
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
On a serious note, Black pygmies have been mentioned as the original people in a number of places. However the Grimaldi woman was 5'2 inches tall. Large for ancient humans. Does that exclude Pygmies from Europe, of course not, no reason why only one type of African could be there.
African pygmy populations possess high levels of genetic diversity. Genetically, they are extremely divergent from all other human populations, suggesting they have an ancient indigenous lineage. Their uniparental markers represent the second-most ancient divergence right after those typically found in Khoisan peoples. Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: On a serious note, Black pygmies have been mentioned as the original people in a number of places. However the Grimaldi woman was 5'2 inches tall. Large for ancient humans. Does that exclude Pygmies from Europe, of course not, no reason why only one type of African could be there.
African pygmy populations possess high levels of genetic diversity. Genetically, they are extremely divergent from all other human populations, suggesting they have an ancient indigenous lineage. Their uniparental markers represent the second-most ancient divergence right after those typically found in Khoisan peoples.
But Mike there were only two Grimaldi skeletons found and are considered a unique combination of Austaloid/Negroid/Caucasoid traits. If you find two skeltons it doesn't mean all of the sudden the whole continent was populated by them. It could have been only a small village in that particualr location, Also the anthrpologists who found it manipulated the jaw, remade it's shape to suit an agenda they had. But more importantly many people left Europe during the Last Glacial Maximum due not necessarily ice covering eveything but an overall sharp temperature drop. Europe became depopulated at one point I keep trying to taech you these fact put it you don't learn. The modern Europeans only go back about 5-6000 years. The much earlier prehistoric Europeans came form Central Asia across the lower part of Russia to Europe capish?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^He,he,he: Damn fool, can't you ever not play the fool?
Posted by Vansertimavindicated (Member # 20281) on :
yep folks, this lonely pathetic creature is here in its fake names rain or shine!
Xmas, New Years, every holiday, rain or shine! And when its not talkinmg to itself in its fake names, it is stalking others asking for pictures, sending emails and chatting with others, hiding behind a screen!
THIS MONKEY IS SIMPLY PATHETIC!
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Okay, "NOW" it's a party.
Van I thought that you were satisfied with just re-posting your own stuff.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: One of the moderators is name Crimson Guard I think he may even own the site. he is considerd to be somewhat of a white supremacist.
He doesn't own that site. RR ("Racial Reality") does. CG is a mod there. Both of them are clowns and are laughed at by virtually everyone.
There's currently a thread at forumbiodiversity entitled 'Racial Reality and his views' which is discussing Crimson Guard as well.
quote:^^^ here Crimson Guard has posted a long David MacRitchie section called OUR DARKER FOREFATHERS.
MacRitchie had nothing to do with that. The "Our Darker Forefathers" is a section of the book, Origin of the Anglo-Saxon race by T. W. Shore (1906). Its one of the texts Afrocentrics distort and quote mine, along with Macritchie's literature. Shore actually clarifies what the "dark" element among the Saxons was - Wends (e.g. West Slavs living near Germanic settlement areas).
quote: the funny thing is Faheemdunkers aka Anglo_Pyramidologist aka cassisertides aka on that site aka TRUTHSEEKER (now banned posted a critical comment
This was many years back, before I actually corrected the quote-mine:
- As you can see I actually came to obtain two original copies in 2011, and am one of the few people to own them.
After I read them, and actually learnt about MacRitchie's views I became a proponent of them. I also updated the Wikipedia entry entirely.
Afrocentrics have lied about Macritchies' theories. They actually have absolutely nothing to do with Negroids, but Ainuids and Australoids. So prior to having read his work, I assumed the Afrocentrics were right in what they were saying about his theories.
If it wasn't for me tracking down his work in original print and updating the Wiki entry, there would still be Afrocentrics claiming Macritchie was asserting there was some palaeolithic Negroid substratum in UK.
quote: ironically he uses Wiercinski as a source on Egyptian morphology. Clyde cited Wiercinski on Olmecs
Wiercinski's "Negroid" isn't Negroid in the stadard use of the term. Clyde and the other Afrocentrics will of course fall for this mistake. Wiercinski' "Oriental" was not Mongoloid either. The Polish school of anthropology under Wiercinski and Michalski never used standard names as they are commonly understood. I clarified this when posting Wiercinski's typological study on the egyptians.
Posted by Vansertimavindicated (Member # 20281) on :
yep folks, what a lonely pathetic little creature this is! this lonely pathetic creature is here in its fake names rain or shine!
Xmas, New Years, every holiday, rain or shine! And when its not talkinmg to itself in its fake names, it is stalking others asking for pictures, sending emails and chatting with others, hiding behind a screen!
THIS MONKEY IS SIMPLY PATHETIC!
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quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers: ]MacRitchie had nothing to do with that. The "Our Darker Forefathers" is a section of the book, Origin of the Anglo-Saxon race by T. W. Shore (1906). Its one of the texts Afrocentrics distort and quote mine, along with Macritchie's literature. Shore actually clarifies what the "dark" element among the Saxons was - Wends (e.g. West Slavs living near Germanic settlement areas).
OUR DARKER FOREFATHERS.
ONE of the facts concerning the colour of the hair and eyes of the people in different counties of England at the present time, brought to light by scientific observations, is that there is a higher percentage of people of a mixed brown type living in Hertfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Wiltshire, and Dorset, than in most other counties. Except those in Cornwall and on the old Celtic borders, the inhabitants of these counties are the darkest. This is usually explained on the supposition that in the process of the Saxon settlement a British population was allowed to remain in these parts of England, which in the course of centuries became mixed with the inhabitants of Anglo-Saxon descent, and consequently the present population is more marked than those of pure descent by brown, hazel, or black eyes, with brown (chestnut), dark-brown, or black hair.1 The counties of Hertford and Buckingham have people as dark as Wales. All investigation goes to show that this brunette outcrop is a reality. Beddoe found that the area in which there is a larger percentage of brown people in England extends from the river Lea to the Warwickshire Avon. In dealing with the circumstances of the settlement, these ethnological facts must receive consideration. The survival
of a British population is a possible explanation, and the one which appears to be the most natural. As there are some difficulties in this conclusion, the question arises, Is there any other way in which the origin of these mixed brown people, surrounded by others of a somewhat fairer complexion, can be explained? An alternative explanation is that people of a darker race may have come with the Angles, Saxons, or Danes, and have settled largely in these parts of the country. There is circumstantial evidence that people of a brown or dark complexion did come into England during the time of both the Saxon and the Danish settlements, and this may now be summarised.
First, we have the evidence that Wends were among the settlers either during the early period or later in alliance with the Danes. The Wends, specifically so called by the Germans, included some tribes much darker than the Saxons and Angles, as the remnant of the race still called Wends living on the border of Saxony and Prussia at the present time shows. They are the darkest people in Northern Germany, according to the official census. From 26 to 29 per cent, of the children of the Wendish district of Lusatia, south of Dresden, were shown by this census to be brunettes, notwithstanding the admixture of race with the much fairer people of Teutonic descent which has been going on along this borderland since the dawn of history. All the Slav nations are not dark. Some are as fair as the Scandinavians, while others, such as the Wends and the Czechs of Bohemia, are dark.
The Wendish place-names in Buckinghamshire and on its borders help to show that some people of this race probably settled in that county. Huntingdon tells us that during the later Saxon period they formed part of the Scandian hosts.1 They were in alliance with the Norwegians, Danes, Swedes, Goths, and Frisians, or, in 1 Henry of Huntingdon's Chronicle, Bonn's ed., p. 148.
any case, people of these races were acting together in the Danish expeditions against England. It is likely, therefore, that when permanent settlements were formed adjoining townships would be occupied by people of this alliance. This consideration helps us to identify Wendlesbury in Hertfordshire.1 Wendover and its neighbourhood in Buckinghamshire, the Anglo-Saxon Wendofra,2 and Windsor, anciently Wendlesore,3 close to the southern border of that county, were probably named after settlers who were Wends.
If British people were left, as suggested, like an eddy between the main lines of the Anglo-Saxon advance east and west of these counties, would it not be very surprising that the advancing Saxons should make no use of the existing Roman roads — the Watling Street, Ikenield Street, and Akeman Street — which passed through parts of these shires, while the Ermine Street also went through Hertfordshire? To suppose that invaders and subsequent settlers would have forsaken the excellent roads which the Romans had made, and in their advance would have passed through the more difficult country east and west of them, thus leaving undisturbed a British population, is most unlikely.
Secondly, these counties are not specially marked by the survival of Celtic place-names, nor by a dialect containing words of Celtic origin. In Anglo-Saxon times there was, however, a place named Wealabroc, in Buckinghamshire.
Thirdly, it should be remembered that the western border of Buckinghamshire was at one time the western frontier of the Danelaw, which comprised fifteen counties known as Fiftonshire, until after the Norman Conquest, and that Danish law survived for more than a century after the Conquest east of this frontier.4 This fact points
to a population largely Scandian. There is, in addition, evidence that points to Norwegians of a brunette appearance as another source whence brown-complexioned people may have come into England. On the south-east coast of Norway, and here and there on the coast farther north, a population is met with which differs from the usual Norwegian type, and this has been referred by anthropologists to a very ancient settlement there of the prehistoric brown race that survives in the highlands of Central Europe, and is known as the brown Alpine race.1 This race is believed to have extended before the dawn of history much further northwards in Germany. The brown people of Norway are well seen in Joderen, where Arbo found the blonde and really dark-haired people about equally represented. The Norwegian brunettes differ from the typical blondes of that country in two other particulars. First, they are broad-headed, while the blondes, which comprise the bulk of the nation, are long-headed; and not only are the broader-headed people of these coast-districts darker as a whole, but in them the broad-headed individuals tend to be darker than the other type, as Arbo has clearly shown.2 Secondly, the broadest-headed people of these localities in Norway incline to shortness of stature below that of the typical Norwegian.
From Huntingdon's statement concerning Vandals as Danish allies and these considerations, there appears to be evidence to account for the greater percentage of brunettes, or the greater tendency to the brunette type, that prevails in Hertfordshire and Buckinghamshire over the adjoining counties, without necessarily concluding that such an ethnological phenomenon can only have been caused by a remnant of the British population. It is, indeed, an unlikely district for Celtic people to have been left in large numbers. On the contrary, in view of its excellent communications, it is a country where the conquest by the early settlers might be expected to have been most thorough. Whether the Hertfordshire and Buckinghamshire brunettes are partly due to the settlement of Wends and Norwegians of the dark type, as now suggested, or to some other cause, the British theory as a complete explanation, in view of the facts, appears improbable. The chief lines of the AngloSaxon advance during the early settlement were the navigable rivers and the Roman roads. The Scandian advances into the country during their conquests and later settlements must have been along the same lines of communication. On one occasion, at least, we read of the Danish host presumably using the Ikenield way, on the march from East Anglia into Dorset.
This consideration of the probable origin of the great proportion of brunettes in two of the south midland counties of England leads us to that of colour-names as surnames and place-names, which may probably have been derived from their original settlers. For example, there is the common name Brown. This has been derived from the Anglo-Saxon brun, signifying brown. It is not reasonable to doubt that when our forefathers called a man Brun or Brown, they gave him this name as descriptive of his brown complexion. The probability that the brunettes were common is supported by the frequent references to persons named Brun in AngloSaxon literature. Brun was a name not confined to England in the Anglo-Saxon and later periods. On the contrary, we find that it was a common name in ancient Germany.2 The typical place-name Bruninga-feld occurs in a charter of ^Ethelstan dated A.d. 938, 'in loco qui Bruninga-feld dicitur.'3 Brunesham, Hants, is mentioned in a charter of Edward the Elder about A.d. goo.
Brunesford is another suggestive name.1 Brunman is mentioned as a personal name in Anglo-Saxon records of the eleventh century, and examples of the name Bruning are somewhat numerous in documents of the same period.2 At the present time old place-names, of which the word Braun forms the chief part, such as Braunschweig or Brunswick, are common in Germany.3 The custom of calling people by colour - names from their personal appearance, or places after them, was clearly not peculiar to our own country. It is probable that the name Brunswick was derived from the brown complexion of its original inhabitants. The map published by Ripley, based on the official ethnological survey of Germany, shows that parts of the country near Brunswick have a higher percentage of brunettes than the districts further north. Beddoe also made observations on a number of Brunswick peasantry, and records some remarkable facts relating to the proportion of brunettes among those who came under his observation.4
In view of this, and the evidence relating to the use of the Anglo-Saxon word brun in English place-names, we are not, I think, justified in deciding that all English names which begin with Brun, modernized into Burn in many cases by the well-known shifting of the r sound, have been derived from brun, a bourn or stream, rather than from brun, brown. Such names as Bruninga-feld5 and Brunesham point to the opposite conclusion, that Brun in such names refers to people, probably so named from their complexions. If a large proportion of the settlers in the counties of Buckingham and Hertford were of a brown complexion, it is clear that they would have been less likely to have been called Brun or Brown by their neighbours than brunettes would in other counties, where such a complexion may have been rarer, and consequently more likely to have attracted the notice of the people around them. It is not probable that people who were originally designated by the colournames Brown, Black, Gray, or the like, gave themselves these names. They most likely received them from others.
The evidence concerning brown people in England during the Anglo-Saxon period which can be derived from the place-name Brun is supplemented by that supplied in at least some of the old place-names beginning with dun and duning. Dun is an Old English word denoting a colour partaking of brown and black, and where it occurs at the beginning of words in such a combination as Duningland,1 it is possible that it refers to brown people or their children, rather than to the AngloCeltic word dun, a hill or fortified place.
As regards the ancient brown race or races of North Europe, there can be no doubt of their existence in the south-east of Norway and in the east of Friesland.2 There can be no doubt about the important influence which the old Wendish race has had in the north-eastern parts of Germany in transmitting to their descendants a more brunette complexion than prevails among the people of Hanover, Holstein, and Westphalia, of more pure Teutonic descent. We cannot reasonably doubt that, in view of such a survival of brown people as we find at the present time in the provinces of North Holland, Drenthe and Overijssel, which form the hinterland of the ancient Frisian country, numerous brunettes must have come into England among the Frisians. It would be as unreasonable to doubt this as it would to think that during, the Norwegian immigration into England all the brown people of Norway were precluded from leaving their country because they were brunettes, or that the Wends, who undoubtedly settled in England in considerable numbers, were none of them of a brunette type.
The survival of some people with broad heads and of a brown type in parts of Drenthe, Guelderland, and Overijssel appears unmistakable.1 They present a remarkable contrast in appearance to their Frisian neighbours, who are of a different complexion in regard to hair and skin, and are specially characterized as longheaded.
It was in Gelderland that ancient Thiel was situated, and the men of Thiel and those of Brune were apparently recognised as different people from the real Frisians, for in the later Anglo-Saxon laws relating to the sojourn of strangers within the City of London it is stated that 'the men of the Emperor may lodge within the city wherever they please, except those of Tiesle and of Brune.'a
The evidence concerning the origin of the broad-headed Slavonic nations connects them with the broad-headed and still older Alpine brown race of Central Europe. The most generally accepted theory among anthropologists as to the physical relationship of the Slavs is that they were always, as the majority of them are to-day, of the same stock as the broad-headed Alpine race.3 This old race has sometimes been called the Celtic, but it is perhaps more accurate to say that it is the very ancient stock from which the old Celtic race of the British Bronze Age was an offshoot. This curious circumstance, consequently, comes before us in considering the AngloSaxon settlement of England. If the brunette character of the people of any part of England at the present time is due to a survival of the race characters of the Celts of the British Bronze Age, and if this same character has been caused partly by people of a darker complexion and broad heads settling as immigrants among the fairhaired and long-headed Teutons in other parts of England, this racial character in both cases can be traced along different lines to the same distant source.
The consideration of the evidence that people of brunette complexions were among the Anglo-Saxon settlers in England leads on to that of people of a still darker hue, the dark, black, or brown-black settlers. Probably there must have been some of these among the Anglo-Saxons, for we meet with the personal names Blacman, Bloecman, Blakernan, Blacaman, Blac'sunu, Blaecca, and Blacheman, in various documents of the period.1 Blaecca was an ealdofman of Lindsey who was converted by Paulinus; Blaecman was the son of Ealric or Edric, a descendant of Ida, ancestor of Ealhred, King of Bernicia, and so on.2 The same kind of evidence is met with among the oldest place-names. Blacmannebergh is mentioned in an Anglo-Saxon charter ;3 Blachemanestone was the name of a place in Dorset,4 and Blachemenestone that of a place in Kent.5 Blacheshale and Blachenhale are Domesday names of places in Somerset, and Blachingelei occurs in the Domesday record of Surrey. The name Blachemene occurs in the Hertfordshire survey, and Blachene in Lincoln. Among the earliest names of the same kind in the charters we find Blacanden in Hants and Blacandon in Dorset. The places called Blachemanestone in Dorset and Blachemenestone in Kent were on or quite close to the coast, a circumstance which points to the settlers having come to these places by water rather than to a survival of black people of the old Celtic race having been left in them.
Among old place-names of the same kind in various counties, some of which are met with in later, but still old, records, we find Blakeney in Gloucestershire; Blakeney in Norfolk ; Blakenham in Suffolk ; Blakemere,1 an ancient hamlet, and Blakesware, near Ware in Hertfordshire. This Hertford name is worthy of note in reference to what has been said concerning the brunettes in that county at the present time. Another circumstance connected with these names which it is desirable to remember is the absence of evidence to show that the Old English ever called any of the darker-complexioned Britons brown men or black men. Their name for them was Wealas. So far as I am aware, not a single instance occurs in which the Welsh are mentioned in any AngloSaxon document as black or brown people ; on the contrary, the Welsh annals mention black Vikings on the coast, as if they were men of unusual personal appearance.2
There is another old word used by the Anglo-Saxons to denote black or brown-black—the word sweart. The personal names Suart and Sueart may have been derived from this word, and may have originally denoted people of a dark-brown or black complexion. Some names of this kind are mentioned in the Domesday record of Buckinghamshire and Lincolnshire. These may be of Scandinavian origin, for the ekename or nickname Svarti is found in the Northern Sagas.3 Halfden the Black was the name of a King of Norway who died in 863. The so-called black men of the Anglo-Saxon period probably included some of the darker Wendish people among them, immigrants or descendants of people of the same race as the ancestors of the Sorbs of Lausatia on the
borders of Saxony and Prussia at the present day. Some of the darker Wends may well have been among the Black Vikings referred to in the Irish annals,1 as well as in those of Wales.2 and may have been the people who have left the Anglo-Saxon name Blacmanne-berghe, which occurs in one of the charters,3 Blachemenestone on the Kentish coast, and Blachemanstone on the Dorset coast. As late as the time of the Domesday Survey we meet with records of people apparently named after their dark complexions. In Buckinghamshire, Blacheman, Suartinus, and others are mentioned; in Sussex, one named Blac; in Suffolk, Blakemannus and Suartingus; and others at Lincoln. The invasion of the coast of the British Isles by Vikings of a dark or black complexion rests on historical evidence which is too circumstantial to admit of doubt. In the Irish annals the Black Vikings are called Dubh-Ghenti, or Black Gentiles.4 These Black Gentiles on some occasions fought against other plunderers of the Irish coasts known as the Fair Gentiles, who can hardly have been others than the fair Danes or Northmen. In the year 851 the Black Gentiles came to Athcliath5—i.e., Dublin. In 852 we are told that eight ships of the Finn-Ghenti arrived and fought against the DubhGhenti for three days, and that the Dubh-Ghenti were victorious. The Black Vikings appear at this time to have had a settlement in or close to Dublin, and during the ninth century were much in evidence on the Irish coast. In 877 a great battle was fought at Lock-Cuan between them and the Fair Gentiles, in which Albany Chief of the Black Gentiles, fell.' He may well have been a chieftain of the race of the Northern Sorbs of the Mecklenburg coast.
There is still another way in which men of black hair or complexions may have come into England—viz., as thralls among the Norse invaders. In his translation of 'Orosius,' King Alfred inserts the account which Othere, the Norse mariner, gave him of the tribute in skins, eiderdown, whalebone, and ropes made from whale and seal skins, which the Northern Fins, now called Lapps, paid to the Northmen. Their descendants are among the darkest people of Europe, and as they were thralls, some of them may have accompanied their lords. The Danes and Norse, having the general race characteristics of tall, fair men, must have been sharply distinguished in appearance from Vikings, such as those of Jomborg, for many of these were probably of a dark complexion. There is an interesting record of the descent of dark sea-rovers on the coast of North Wales in the 'Annales Cambriae,' under the year 987, which tells us that Gothrit, son of Harald, with black men, devastated Anglesea, and captured two thousand men. Another entry in the same record tells us that Meredut redeemed the captives from the black men. This account in the Welsh annals receives some confirmation in the Sagas of the Norse Kings, one of which tells us that Olav Trygvesson was for three years, 982-985, King in Vindland —i.e., Wendland—where he resided with his Queen, to whom he was much attached; but on her death, whose loss he greatly felt, he had no more pleasure in Vindland. He therefore provided himself with ships and went on a Viking expedition, first plundering Friesland and the coast all the way to Flanders. Thence he sailed to Northumberland, plundered its coast and those of Scotland, Man, Cumberland, and Bretland—i.e., Wales— during the years 985-988, calling himself a Russian under the name of Ode.1 From these two separate accounts there can be but little doubt, notwithstanding the differences in the names, of the descent on the coast of
North Wales at this time of dark sea-rovers under a Scandinavian leader, and it is difficult to see who they were if not dark-complexioned Wends or other allies of the Norsemen. It is possible some of these dark Vikings may have been allies or mercenaries from the South of Europe, where the Norse made conquests.
As regards the evidence concerning black-haired settlers in England at a still earlier date, there is the story of the two Anglian priests named the Black and Fair Hewald, who, following the example of Willibord among the Frisians, went into Saxony as missionaries, and on coming to a village were admitted to the house of the head man, who promised to protect them, and send them on to the ealdorman of the district. They devoted themselves to prayer and religious observances, which were misunderstood by the pagan rustics, who apparently were afraid of magical arts. At any rate, these strange rites, so novel to them, aroused suspicion among the people, who thought that if these Angles were allowed to meet the ealdorman they might draw him away from their gods, and before long draw away the whole province from the observances of their forefathers. So they slew both the Black and Fair Hewald, whose names in subsequent Christian time were, and still are, held in high honour in Westphalia.1 It is a touching story, and one that tells us more than the devotion, inspired by Christian zeal to risk their lives, which these missionaries showed for the conversion of men of their own race ; for, as their names indicate, they bore in their different complexions evidence of the existence of the fair and dark people among the Anglo-Saxon stock.
As already mentioned, the name Brunswick appears to be one of significance, and the Wendish names in that part of Germany, Wendeburg, Wendhausen, and Wenden, may be compared with the Buckinghamshire Domesday names Wendovre, Weneslai, and Wandene, and with 1 Bright, W., ' Early English Church History,' p. 384.
Wenriga or Wenrige in Hertfordshire. The probable connection of the Wends—some tribes of whom, such as the Sorbs, are known to have been dark—with parts of Germany near Brunswick, and with parts of Herts and Bucks, is shown by these names. Domesday Book tells us of huscarls in Buckinghamshire, and of people who bore such names as Suarting, Suiert, Suen, Suert, and Suiuard, among its land-holders, and it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that such names refer to people of dark complexions. Among the lahmens of Lincoln, a very Danish town, there were also apparently some so-called Danes of a dark complexion, for Domesday Book mentions Suartin, son of Gribold; Suardine, son of Hardenut; and Suartine Sortsbrand, son of Ulf.
In view of the facts pointing to settlements of Wends and dark-haired people in the counties of Hertford and Buckingham, the survival of the custom of junior inheritance at Cheshunt and Hadham in Herts is of interest. In cases of intestacy the land in the eastern part of Cheshunt,1 or 'below bank,' which is by far the greater part of the parish, descends to the youngest son by ancient custom, and that custom, traced to its most probable home, leads us to Eastern Germany, and to the old Slavic tribes which once occupied it, as will be fully considered in a subsequent chapter.
From the evidence mentioned, the impression left on the mind is that our Old English forefathers could not have been men of three ancient nations only, Jutes, Saxons, and Angles. These names, in reference to the conquest and colonization of England, were but general names for tribal people in alliance, generally the name of the largest section of such allies. They were no doubt convenient names, but cannot be regarded as ethnological designations. This has become apparent from the skulls and other remains found in Anglo-Saxon burial-places. The shapes and special characteristics of these skulls, 1 Bone, J. W., Notes and Queries, Seventh Series, ix. 206.
whether from the so-called Anglian districts or Saxon parts of England, present such marked contrasts that anthropologists are unable to ascribe them all to one race of people. A minority of those found in ancient cemeteries in Sussex, Wiltshire, and the Eastern Counties, present such typical differences from the majority in each district as to leave no doubt that they represent a variety of race or people descended from a fusion of races. The easiest explanation of this is, of course, to turn to the ancient Briton, and generally the remote Briton of the Bronze Age known as the Round Barrow man. Where in early cemeteries Saxon or Anglian skulls have been found presenting characteristics which are clearly not of the Teutonic type, the early British inhabitant of the Bronze Age has usually been called in as an ancestor. The typical old Teutonic skull is dolichocephalic, the skull of the British people of the Bronze Age in brachycephalic. The inference that there was a fusion of race between the Saxons and Angles and people descending from men of the Bronze Age is easily drawn. There is, however, one difficulty. The Britons of the Bronze Age lived about 500 B.c., a date which may fairly be taken to represent the time of the Round Barrow men. The Angles and Saxons are usually said to have come here not earlier than about 500 A.d. There are, therefore, a thousand years between the two periods, and in that interval was the period of the Roman rule, during which men of almost every Roman province served with the legions in Britain, and in many recorded cases some of them settled here, and presumably left descendants. In view of this racial fusion which must have gone on, it is difficult to believe that the Romano-Briton of the early Anglo-Saxon period possessed the same skull characteristics as the much more remote man of the Bronze Age, who may not have been his ancestor at all. Moreover, the Welsh also, who may be supposed to be descended from this later British stock, are not broad-headed.
From what has been said of the presence of broadheaded people of a brunette type in parts of Norway, among the much more numerous long-headed people of a fair complexion who formed the bulk of the Norwegian nation, it will be seen that the facts point to an early broad-headed brown race, some of whom settled on the Norwegian coast, the long-headed fair race of the typical Norse variety having perhaps subsequently conquered them. In any case, we find evidence sufficient to justify the inference that probably the early broad-headed people were brown. The same result is obtained by the study of the broad-headed people of Central Europe at the present day, the descendants presumably of the old Alpine brown race. The same evidence is afforded by the remnant of the Wends, whose skulls are broad, and whose complexions are more or less brown at the present day, notwithstanding their fusion with the Germans. We have thus existing in Norway and parts of Germany at the present time people whose ethnological characteristics appear to agree with those of a section of the Anglo-Saxon people in England. It does not, of course, admit of proof that the broad-headed skulls, which occur in a small minority in Anglo-Saxon cemeteries, were the skulls of people of a brunette complexion. Similarly, we are unable to prove that the people who are called Brun, Brunman, or Bruning, in Saxon charters or other documents were broad-headed ; but in view of the ethnological survival to the present day in various parts of North Europe, from which our Anglo-Saxon forefathers came, of broad-headed people of the brunette type, we can point in England to the fact that broad skulls are found in Anglo-Saxon graves, and to the historical fact that there were brown people in England during the AngloSaxon period, and there the evidence must be left. It may, however, be borne in mind that as brown passes into dark brown or black, the literary evidence concerning brown Anglo-Saxons is strengthened by that relating to the black men, or to those designated by the old brown-black word sweart, and in some cases, perhaps, even by the old word dun.
The evidence of brown people of the Wendish race may, however, be carried further by the comparison of surviving names in North-East Germany with similar surviving names in England. Those of Wendlesbury, Wandsworth (Wendelesworth), Windsor (Wendlesore), find their parallels in names in the old Wendish country of Mecklenburg, where similar names are to be found— such as Wanden, the name of a province and place on the border of ancient Wendland, and similar names in Brunswick, to which some of the Wends probably migrated. The name Wendland also survives in Hanover, where a remnant of the Wendish language died out only two centuries ago. In these names we discern a connection of the places with the Wends, who are at the present time the darkest people of Northern Germany. They were Slavs, whose line of migration in some far-distant era was from the country around the sources of the river Oder, down the wide valley of that river in Silesia to the Baltic coast of Mecklenburg and Pomerania.1 This migration is marked at the present time by a greater percentage of people of the brunette type 2 in this district than prevails on its eastern or western sides, where fusion with other fairer-coloured races has been going on since the dawn of history. Whereas the country east and west of the valley of the Oder was found by the German Ethnological Survey to contain from 5 to 10 per cent, of brunettes among the present population, the country which marks the migration of the ancient Wends to the Mecklenburg coast contained n to 15 per cent. From this evidence and that of the complexion of the Wends of Saxony at the present time we are warranted in considering the ancient Wends to have been brunettes, or to have comprised tribes who were. It is on account of 1 Ripley, W. Z., loc. tit., p. 244. * Ibid.
This historic migration, says Ripley, that Saxony, Brandenburg, and Mecklenburg are less purely Teutonic to-day in respect to pigmentation than they once were.1 Not only is there a greater percentage of brunettes in these parts of Germany than is shown in the purely Teutonic parts of that country, but the whole East of Germany contains a population which is broader-headed, shading off imperceptibly into countries where pure Slavic languages are in daily use. The connection with our own country, in its subsequent consequences, of this great migration of people having broad heads and dark complexions through Silesia into Mecklenburg is one of the most interesting considerations indirectly concerned with the Anglo-Saxon race.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Damn lioness, you go to that much trouble debunking Cass????
Come-on now, we all know that Cass is certifiable, so why bother?
BTW - Aren't you on the wrong side?
This could just kill Doxie.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
^ Mike already has this text on his site. But trying to explain it to him is pointless.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Mike is actually descended from the original Anglo Saxons
Mike are there any medieval paintings where there is an undisputable dark black person and a medieval English text which accompanies the picture where they describe the man as a "black" rather than "moor" ?
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Mike great book Retake your fame by Almer Von Fleisher.I bought it on Google play but I dont like reading book online, I like to download my ebook on my own tablet or my Amazon kindle.I will buy the print version of this book.
The Grimaldi, Garamante, Khoisan, Pygmy are the same family of people.They were the first inhabitant of Europe.
LOL Lioness say only two skeletons of Grimaldi found and they were Australoid/negroid/caucasian.The Grimaldi could have been a small village.The Grimaldi left Europe.Lioness say Mike the Prehistoric European come from central Asia South Russia capish.Lioness is rewriting history .
VanSertimavindi Im glad Mike is in EGSF in holiday, sunshineday and rainyday and stalking people for pictures and emailing day and night.I think Egmond Codfried use to be online more then Mike.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Mike is actually descended from the original Anglo Saxons
Mike are there any medieval paintings where there is an undisputable dark black person and a medieval English text which accompanies the picture where they describe the man as a "black" rather than "moor" ?
Damn you're stupid!
He,he,he:
Paintings don't come with explanatory texts. In those times as today, if you like a painting you buy it. If you commissioned the painting then you know who the subject was. If you bought it from the artist, then he might tell you who the subject was. Otherwise that information is lost and only guessed at by modern compilers of art history. But in this case, it is part of the Albino conspiracy to falsify history.
Shame, shame: always trying to fool the Negroes.
Posted by HERU (Member # 6085) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: HERU - Thanks for getting us back to the topic.
A History of the Vikings By Gwyn Jones
Page 76 The Norsemen in Kiev in 1018, despite their unquestioned Swedish origin, were described by Thietmar of Merseburg ( Prince-Bishop of Merseburg Germany, 1009–1018 ) as being for the most part Danes. The Irish annalists were a lesson to all with their division of Norse invaders into White Foreigners, Norwegians (Finn-gaill), and Black Foreigners, Danes (Dubh-gaill), but it was a lesson no one heeded; nor do we know why they distinguished them by colour.
Page 77 The Welsh chroniclers, for example, made no such clear distinction. The Danes coming in by way of England and the Norwegians coming in by way of Ireland were pretty well all black: Black Gentiles (y Kenedloed Duon), Black Norsemen (y Normanyeit Duon), Black Host, Pagans, Devils and the like.
Dark-skinned peoples, particularly Celts, were fairly common, according to a paper by Norse scholar Jenny Jochens entitled Race and Ethnicity in the Old Norse World.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Mike is actually descended from the original Anglo Saxons
Mike are there any medieval paintings where there is an undisputable dark black person and a medieval English text which accompanies the picture where they describe the man as a "black" rather than "moor" ?
Damn you're stupid!
He,he,he:
Paintings don't come with explanatory texts. In those times as today, if you like a painting you buy it. If you commissioned the painting then you know who the subject was. If you bought it from the artist, then he might tell you who the subject was. Otherwise that information is lost and only guessed at by modern compilers of art history. But in this case, it is part of the Albino conspiracy to falsify history.
Shame, shame: always trying to fool the Negroes.
Mike that' s a cop out. Paintings have titiles and illuminated manuscripts even further have painting mixed with text . As far as I know medieval English writers, painting or no painting would not have called people blacks who we would call blacks today. If i am not mistaken that was not they word they choose to use in those times to describe such people. i could be wrong consult your research team
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Mike that' s a cop out. Paintings have titles
Please show me an example of a painting with it's title written on it.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by HERU: Dark-skinned peoples, particularly Celts, were fairly common, according to a paper by Norse scholar Jenny Jochens entitled Race and Ethnicity in the Old Norse World.
Do you have a copy, or can you give direct quotes?
It's too expensive to chance buying and then finding that it's junk.
Posted by HERU (Member # 6085) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by HERU: Dark-skinned peoples, particularly Celts, were fairly common, according to a paper by Norse scholar Jenny Jochens entitled Race and Ethnicity in the Old Norse World.
Do you have a copy, or can you give direct quotes?
It's too expensive to chance buying and then finding that it's junk.
All I have is a summary of the study by Rorik Radford
Race & Ethnicity in the Old Norse World by Rorik Radford
In the 1999 edition of Viator (vol. 30) the prominent Old Norse scholar Jenny Jochens published an insightful and carefully researched article on the subject of "Race and Ethnicity in the Old Norse World." In hopes of casting a little light on this traditionally heat-seeking topic, I will summarize Jochens' points here.
1. Tacitus attributed the uniform physical characteristics of the Germanic tribesmen--blue eyes, reddish hair, and large stature--to their lack of intermarriage with other peoples. This in contrast to Roman culture, where diversity of appearance reflected centuries of intermingling with the conquered nations of the Empire.
2. While Tacitus' observations may have remained accurate for several more centuries, Northern Europeans eventually began to display a greater variety of physical traits reflecting genetic changes associated with migratory movements.
3. By the Saga Age, swarthy complexions and features were not unknown in the North, but they were considered aesthetic faults. "Geirmundar ßáttr heljarskins" tells of Geirmundr and Hámundr, twin sons of a minor 9th century Norwegian king who were born with skin so dark they were called heljarskin--Hel-Skin; Black as Hel. The infants' mother exchanged them for the fair-skinned child of a slave, but the boys' noble lineage was apparent in their bearing and actions and their father, King Hjörr, readily acknowledged his paternity. Although most sources say the twins were the sons of Hjörr's Norwegian queen, one passage in Landnámabók says the king had brought back a captive princess from a war in Bjarmaland (now Finland), and the dark-skinned boys were born to this woman.
4. The term "svartr" (black) is commonly ascribed in the sagas to people with dark coloring, contrasted with "hvítr" (white) for those of fair complexion and features. These terms do not refer to race in the modern sense--black Africans were never described as svartr, but as blámenn (blue men). Still, the svartr/hvítr distinction shows an early attunement to physical differences based on coloring.
5. Some Saga Age Norwegians were apparently born with dark features without outside genetic influence. A well-known example is Hálfdan svarti (the Black), the father of King Harald Finehair. Likewise, Gísli Súrsson is described in his saga as a "ma?r svartr," a dark man. More often, however, dark features were attributed to foreign or even trollish genetic intervention.
6. The most famous white/black dichotomy in the sagas involves the family of Egill Skallagrímsson. Egill's father is introduced as "a dark and ugly man like his forefathers," although his brother ?órólfr was "the most handsome of men." Skallagrím's descendants, the Myramenn, are said to include both the fairest and ugliest of men. The origin of the dark side of the family line is implied in the byname of Skallagrím's great uncle, Hallbjörn hálftroll. Even though dark features might be attributed to supernatural influence, people exhibiting this trait were still considered to be Norwegians, and their intermarriage with fair- skinned Norse presented no special issues.
7. The Anglo-Saxons from earliest times had been intermarrying with Celts, introducing genes for dark hair and swarthy coloring into Germanic bloodlines. These characteristics were gradually brought to Norway by the traffic in captive women. A greater mixing of the genetic pool took place in early Iceland, which became a veritable melting pot of Scandinavian and Celtic settlers. Throughout this process, literary references make it clear that Nordic peoples considered Celts to be dark, and thought of themselves as fair by contrast. As Norsemen came into increasingly greater contact with Celts, the byname hvíti (the White) became common. This byname was probably not bestowed on fair-featured Norwegians by Celts, but rather indicated self-awareness of light complexion as a noteworthy trait on the part of the Norse themselves. The sagas and especially Landnámabók show that the byname hvíti often passed from father to son and tended to run in families--presumably applying to fair- complected Norwegians who lived or traded with darker-skinned people for several generations.
8. Svartr, "Black" or "the Black," was a common byname in early Iceland, usually referring to people of pure or mixed Celtic blood. Although a significant percentage of the settlers of Iceland were of Celtic extraction, they generally adopted Norse names. Moreover, Norse/ Icelandic slaveholders often gave their Celtic thralls Norse names--including the proper name, Svartr. The names Hvíti and Svartr thus came to be associated with not just shades of coloring, but also social status. Thralls named Svartr become virtually stock figures in the sagas; sometimes the saga-man does not even consider it necessary to mention that a character with such a name is a thrall; the audience was expected to infer this from the name alone. Two sagas mention settlers named Svartr who are clearly not thralls, but both are described as unpleasant and violent. A related name is Kolr (from "coal"). In Njál's Saga, when Hallger?r and Bergßóra select lower-class, brutish men to carry on their running feud, one housewife employs a worker named Svartr, while the other chooses a man named Kolr. This suggests that, at this time in history, dark (Celtic) features were associated in the Norse mind with coarseness and violence.
9. The sagas contain many examples of a perceived connection between dark features and Celtic origins, as well as a general aversion to such looks. In general, Celts were considered to be ugly because they were dark. Typical is the serving maid's description of Kormák the skald as "svartr ok ljótr"--dark and ugly. These adjectives were applied so often to people of Celtic extraction that they became bynames and then proper names. While Svartr/svarti served mainly to designate the darkness of "the other" with whom the Norse settlers shared their new homeland, the name Ljótr (Ugly/ the Ugly) incorporates an aesthetic judgment, if not a sense of hostility. Both names continued down through the generations after the Settlement, confirming that dark, Celtic features were inherited and that they continued to be noticed.
10. In addition to bynames (and proper names) based on their non- Nordic appearance, people of Celtic stock were commonly given bynames reflecting their place of origin. They can also often be identified in the sagas, even when they have taken Norse names, by the lack of patronymics or other genealogical references.
11. Dark features in women apparently met with less disapproval than in men. No women are known to have been given svartr-names, although several women of Celtic origin with the name Ljót appear in the lore. This greater acceptance may be related to the fact that Nordic men had no apparent qualms about interbreeding with (and indeed marrying) Celtic women. Dark featured men were more feared and (especially in early Iceland) competed with Nordic men for the relatively small supply of females. Many distinguished Celtic women are mentioned in the lore, including settlers of Iceland and matriarchs of important (mixed-blood) families. The influence of their genes can be traced down through the saga genealogies and in Landnámabók, where bynames and given names denoting dark features appear in generation after generation.
12. Despite their fundamental dislike of dark features, Norwegians of the Viking and Saga ages were able to overcome their differences with Celts, resulting in an extensive infusion of Celtic genes into Nordic bloodlines, especially in Iceland. In contrast, the Icelanders who colonized Greenland did not engage in sexual contact with the Inuit population even though the two peoples jointly populated the island for half a millennium. Similarly, the Norse contingent in Vinland did not intermingle with native Americans, although they had brought too few of their own women to sustain a viable colony. The strikingly different physical appearance of the aboriginal populations may have generated revulsion among the Norse,.as evidenced by the term "skraelingjar" (suggesting wizened, dried-up features), which was applied to Inuit and Indian alike. One text describes the Vinland natives as "dark [svartir] and evil looking;" although a variant substitutes the word smáir ("small") for svartir.
13. The overall historical record of old Norse attitudes toward race and ethnicity is thus uneven. There was apparently a strong resistance to intermixing with people of pronouncedly different appearance, even in the face of biological necessity. At the same time, there was a very high level of assimilation of Celts, even though people of Celtic extraction were perceived as dark and ugly, bore names that seemed strange and difficult to pronounce, and often entered life in Nordic culture as slaves. Notwithstanding that the Norwegian element of the settlers of Iceland valued and distinguished themselves by their blond appearance, racial and ethnic tension was so low that Iceland produced, within a few generations, a more ethnically diverse population than existed anywhere in the North until modern times.
modern sense--black Africans were never described as svartr, but as blámenn (blue men).
where's Eggy?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Thanks HERU.
I guess Egmond was right, Black Blood IS Blue Blood!
Posted by jantavanta (Member # 20328) on :
Thor, the Norse God of Thunder and Lightning evolved from Hathor , the ancient Egyptian Deity. Gods of Thunder and lightning exist in Yoruba and Igbo Cosmology as Sango and Amadioha respectively.
Odin evolved from Odinani, the Igbo cosmology
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by jantavanta: Thor, the Norse God of Thunder and Lightning evolved from Hathor , the ancient Egyptian Deity. Gods of Thunder and lightning exist in Yoruba and Igbo Cosmology as Sango and Amadioha respectively.
Odin evolved from Odinani, the Igbo cosmology
just because you can find similarity it doesn't mean there is a connection , that one culture knew the other culture's myth -because people often come up with similar ideas. The Greeks knew about the Egyptians beliefs and made some spinoffs but I doubt the Norse knew about the Igbo beliefs. if you have primitve Norse or Igbo tribes they are going to think nature is controlled by Gods. Then they are going to take something like thunder or wind and they will think a particular God tmade these things happen. Put some people on an isolated Island somehwere and raise them from children with no knowledge given of other myths. They will come up with their own eventually and these gods will wind up seeming similar to other religions they didn't even know about, people make up similar shyt. Take two words randomly out of your head, make it a weird combination, put the words inside quotation marks and put it in google search. Often somebody already came up with it but you didn't know they did, yet its the same. Ther is a list of academic standards to prove one culture knew about another culture. It goes beyond similarity. Ther has to be some other connections or more unusual detail similarities. As per languages there are words that are derived from other languages and ther are also many words that are similar in sound but have no connection
Etymology
Odin chief Teutonic god, the All-Father, a 19c. revival in reference to Scandinavian neo-paganism, from Danish, from Old Norse Oðinn, from P.Gmc. *Wod-enaz- (source of Old English Woden, Old High German Wuotan), probably from *wod-eno-/*wod-ono- "raging, mad, inspired," from root *wet- "to blow, inspire, spiritually arouse" (see wood (adj.)).
looking at some of these older roots with the letter "w" first it doesn't look as similar to the Igbo,,
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Lionese trash talking as usual. Go get a life...
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by HERU: Race & Ethnicity in the Old Norse World by Rorik Radford
7. The Anglo-Saxons from earliest times had been intermarrying with Celts, introducing genes for dark hair and swarthy coloring into Germanic bloodlines. These characteristics were gradually brought to Norway by the traffic in captive women. A greater mixing of the genetic pool took place in early Iceland, which became a veritable melting pot of Scandinavian and Celtic settlers.
Quote: "Because of its isolation, the people of Iceland are among the fairest on the planet."
Behind the above Albino nonsense, I was interested to see how their actual history played out in modern populations.
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Great info Jantavanta. Norse God Thor come from the Egyptian Goddess Hathor.Norse God Odin come from Igbo Goddess Odinani.It look like there was African religious missionary in prehistoric Europe.The Celtic hero Merlin name come from Ibo God Eri so Merlin is Mel Eri.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^ Mike I don't understand your point here, vague as usual. All I see are older photos of Icelanders. Don't be shy what are you getting at?
Anyway I was looking at your "The Real History of White People" section. It starts off with this map which you have altered:
The original maps are based on DNA analysis
^^^ however this map doesn't map does not cover man's first entry into North Western Europe because there's glacier covering North Western Europe. Maybe you added the red and yellow lines I'm not sure how you altered it but I know it's altered most of the text you've written in.
. ^^^^ here's the other map you have posted, with your added caption. This is an unaltered nat geo this map also from your site shows migrations out of africa but does not indicate if they were first , second, or third time periods but we can clearly see the migration arrow where the first people in Scandinvia came from , across Russia from Central Asia at an earlier time when it was not the last galcial maximum when it was not covered in glacier
Mike listen up Also from your site:
^^^^ Here we have early Russians. The first from 34,000 BC resembles an Australian Aborigninee, the second very different looking from 8,000 years later, 26,000 BC, resembling a modern day Russian wrestler.
So how did they get into Russia? Your blue map above shows it from Central Asia. These are the ancestors of the first Europeans people starting in Africa, going into the Middle East, then into Central Asia , across Russia and finally into Northern Europe. Mike before you get mad about this exposure just look at these Russians you always post, look at the arrows on your maps, look at the glacier, a knowledgeable person can easily see how your stuff doen't add up. I call it "Mike's Russian Problem"
^^^^ this map is not on your site. keep in mind all such maps are based on DNA. This shows M173, the first people in Europe, they came across Russia and you show these Kostenki Russians in another location on your site who represent their ancestors, 30,000 years ago Clyde acknowledges this he just says that M173 is African ( as everything is) But if you look at the people in the above blue map going into South Europe from the Middle East tmuch later M172 10,000 years ago hose who would be farmers. Yet another problem with your altered green map at the top is that it says "fully modern man Grimladi man enters Europe at Gibralter. Then go to the blue map you posted, there is no such entry from Gibralter showing even though it represents all the different early migrations at once including the later M172 from the mid east entering South European around 10kya.
^^^^ No problem with the map itself, you didn't alter it this time. here, the Barbarian invasions. The earliest Goths are shown in red represented in red are shown orignating in North Europe, hense why they are called Germanics. Later the Goths split into two parts the Visigoths shown in dark puple line and the Ostragoths in light puple. These are the sub divisions of Goths who had come from Northern Europe some Ostragoths going further East across the Black Sea into Anatolia others going South West becoming the Visigoths. Another Germanic tribe the Vandals represented in blue keeps going South into North Africa. The green line is the Huns a multi ethnic semi Mongol people, not Germanic, who pushed back the Germanic Goths Westward as the Germanic Goths had been advancing East in the "Great Migration" originating in Northern Europe. It's all there in the map.
But then you post this map of the Huns when they confronted the Germanic Goths and you lable the map "The Germanics Migratory path of the Visagoths (Germanics)" So what you are doing is taking the enemies of the Germanics the Huns and calling them Visagoths. But you show us the migratory of the Huns. No need to, it's this map you have labeled as the migratory path of their enemies the Visigoths. Why do you perpetrate a fraud?
You say the origin of modern white people is the Goths. And your website says this about the Huns:
The Huns
The Huns were a nomadic pastoral people from Eastern Asia, they invaded Europe in about 370 A.D. and created an enormous empire; which reached as far west as Germany. They were possibly the descendants of the Xiongnu who had been northern neighbors of China three hundred years before.
The Huns may have stimulated the Great Migration, a contributing factor in the collapse of the Roman Empire. They formed a unified empire under Attila the Hun, who died in 453 A.D; their empire broke up the next year.
Jordanes - The Roman historian, wrote a book on the history of the Goths called "Getica" (circa 551 A.D). In his book, he describes the Huns as: They made their foes flee in horror because their swarthy (black skinned)
So we can see the contradiction and trickery you are attempting. You say the Huns were black, (swarthy at least these Mongols) and then you take their migratory path, the one in which they attacked the Germanic Goths and you label it as the migratory path of the Goths. How can you call other people liars when you are lying and you know it? look in the mirror. You are not enlightening people you are trying to trick them.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Cass, lioness, I am so disappointed! I expected loud protestations that the guy in the back with the super curly hair was well within the normal bounds of Dravidian Albinos.
I wonder if his hairstyle means that he's bragging on his Black blood, or if he just doesn't know.
Posted by jantavanta (Member # 20328) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by jantavanta: Thor, the Norse God of Thunder and Lightning evolved from Hathor , the ancient Egyptian Deity. Gods of Thunder and lightning exist in Yoruba and Igbo Cosmology as Sango and Amadioha respectively.
Odin evolved from Odinani, the Igbo cosmology
just because you can find similarity it doesn't mean there is a connection , that one culture knew the other culture's myth -because people often come up with similar ideas.
looking at some of these older roots with the letter "w" first it doesn't look as similar to the Igbo,.........................
The Egyptian beliefs were the backdoor to the African Mystery System. The Yoruba and Igbo cosmologies are nucleus cultural beliefs that evolved over space and time to become the astrologized ancient egyptian religion. Ancient Egypt is the big daughter of Ethiopia. There are more pyramids in Sudan than in Egypt, but National Geographic Channel prefers to ignore them. The Vikings are of Ancient egyptian/Sudanese origin as shown in http://www.beforebc.de/Related.Subjects/Ships.Sea-faring/92-10-825.html
Europe is Northern Africa. The present Whitening of the Ancient Egyptian history is an extension of what had taken place in Europe in the past 200 years.
You have no business teaching us the academic way of doing things because the oldest universities in europe are in the regions closest to the african continent.
Posted by jantavanta (Member # 20328) on :
quote:Originally posted by mena7: Great info Jantavanta. Norse God Thor come from the Egyptian Goddess Hathor.Norse God Odin come from Igbo Goddess Odinani.It look like there was African religious missionary in prehistoric Europe.The Celtic hero Merlin name come from Ibo God Eri so Merlin is Mel Eri.
All the Celtic Fantasy genre of storybooks are based on 'Whitened' African cosmology. Prof Wande Abimbola's Book: Ifa Will Mend Our Broken World , has more info on that. King Arthur of the Arthurian Legends is also from Hathor.
Merlin was said to have disappeared under the sea for some years of tutelage, which is similar to Ibo lore about special children who disappear under the river for some time.
Posted by jantavanta (Member # 20328) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Mike is actually descended from the original Anglo Saxons
Mike are there any medieval paintings where there is an undisputable dark black person and a medieval English text which accompanies the picture where they describe the man as a "black" rather than "moor" ?
The need for the titular description of a dark black person in a painting as "black" only came about as a result of invading migrations of white people into Europe. People were by default "Black" unlike nowadays were absence colour is being portrayed by your media as a norm.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Jantavanta, stupid Kill Whitey, White people genocidist, White people hating Black racist POS. We Whites did NOT invade Europe, we are indigenous to Europe. Why can't you Kill Whitey Black racist half wits be happy with your own history in Africa & stop trying to steal other people's stuff. BTW, Europe is NOT Northern Africa, its not even attached to any part of Africa, it is however firmly connected to ASIA.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by jantavanta:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by jantavanta: Thor, the Norse God of Thunder and Lightning evolved from Hathor , the ancient Egyptian Deity. Gods of Thunder and lightning exist in Yoruba and Igbo Cosmology as Sango and Amadioha respectively.
Odin evolved from Odinani, the Igbo cosmology
just because you can find similarity it doesn't mean there is a connection , that one culture knew the other culture's myth -because people often come up with similar ideas.
looking at some of these older roots with the letter "w" first it doesn't look as similar to the Igbo,.........................
The Egyptian beliefs were the backdoor to the African Mystery System. The Yoruba and Igbo cosmologies are nucleus cultural beliefs that evolved over space and time to become the astrologized ancient egyptian religion. Ancient Egypt is the big daughter of Ethiopia. There are more pyramids in Sudan than in Egypt, but National Geographic Channel prefers to ignore them. The Vikings are of Ancient egyptian/Sudanese origin as shown in http://www.beforebc.de/Related.Subjects/Ships.Sea-faring/92-10-825.html
Europe is Northern Africa. The present Whitening of the Ancient Egyptian history is an extension of what had taken place in Europe in the past 200 years.
You have no business teaching us the academic way of doing things because the oldest universities in europe are in the regions closest to the african continent.
yet you were talking about the Norse God Odin which is at the extreme North of Europe. You are suggesting connection between the region now called Nigeria and Norway? Alusi is the God of thunder and lightning in the Igbo belief system called Odinani
The oldest Universities in Europe are also the bottom 7 of the list of the world's oldest univeristies:
4. University of Bologna: Italy founded in 1088
5.University of Paris: This university’s exact founding is unclear; however, teaching from this university existed since 1096.
6.University of Oxford: Like the University of Paris, the exact date of this university’s founding is unclear. The formal founding date, however, is 1096
7.University of Montpelier: Located in Montpelier, France, this university also is considerably older than its founding date of 1150.
8.University of Cambridge: Known as the second-oldest university in the English-speaking world, this university was formed by scholars who left the University of Oxford over a dispute in 1209.
9.University of Salamanca: Located in Salamanca, Spain, this school was established in 1218 and obtained the title of “university” by Alexander IV’s papal bull in 1225.
10.University of Padua: This is the second oldest university in Italy, falling behind the University of Bologna. This university was founded in 1222
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^^^ As we can see the oldest universities in Europe are spread thoughout Europe. Only 3 of the 7 are in Italy or Spain
The remaining top 3 oldest universities in the world are also the top oldest Universities in the world , older than Europe's. They are Islamic, two located In North Afrca, one in what is now called Iran
1. University of Al-Karaouine: Located in Fes, Morocco, this university originally was a mosque founded in 859 by Fatima al-Fihri, a woman
2.Al-Azhar University: This university, located in Egypt, is the world’s second oldest surviving degree-granting institute. Founded in 970-972, this university serves as a center for Arabic literature and Sunni Islamic learning.
3. Nizamiyya: This series of universities was established by Khwaja Nizam al-Mulk in the eleventh century in what is now present-day Iran. The most celebrated of all the Nizamiyya schools is Al-Nizamiyya of Baghdad, established in 1065 in Dhu’l Qa’da and that remains operational in Isfahan.
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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Europe is NOT Northern Africa, its not even attached to any part of Africa, it is however firmly connected to ASIA.
Doxie dear, a person can WALK from Africa to Europe, just as a person can WALK from Asia to Europe.
Modern demarcation lines were created by you Albinos to separate yourselves from normal humans (correctly so), but they have no practical meaning.
BTW - You make much of the Asia connection, so are you now accepting that you are Dravidian Albinos from Central Asia?
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Lioness the first University in the world were in Africa.
The University of Khmunu of Tehuti in Egypt 3500 bc,
The University of Anu of Ra in Egypt 3500 bc,
The University of Mem Nefer of Ptah in Egypt 3000 bc
The University of Ta Apet or Waset of Amen in Kemet 2500 bc.
The University of Rajedet or Alexandria of Serapis in Egypt 300 bc.
There was nine major temple-university in Kemet/Egypt that educated Egyptian, Kushite, West Asian, Europeen, Indian, East Asian, Meso American.Egyptian universities educated the world.Christian Roman Emperor Theodosius because of envy closed and destroyed Egyptian temple university.That was the begining of the downfall of the black race.
The long chronology of Mcnaughton,Flinters Petrie, John G Jackson, Robin Walker date the begining of Ancient Egyptian civilization to 5500 BC. Ta Seti civilization started in 6000 BC. European scholar to make Sumerian civilization that they claimed were white appear older then Egypt erased 2000 years from Egyptian civilization.The Egyptian Sirius calendar was created in 4300 BC therefore Egyptian civilization was older then Europeen Academia 3300 BC.The Egyptian priest amazingly knew the great year that is 25000 years of the precession of the equinox. Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by mena7: [QB] Lioness the first University in the world were in Africa.
The University of Khmunu of Tehuti in Egypt 3500 bc,
The University of Anu of Ra in Egypt 3500 bc,
The University of Mem Nefer of Ptah in Egypt 3000 bc
The University of Ta Apet or Waset of Amen in Kemet 2500 bc.
The University of Rajedet or Alexandria of Serapis in Egypt 300 bc.
the is no record of these in ancient Egypt
you would have to back this with a source to make it believable, This however does not mean that the Greeks did not go into Egypt and learn some things, they did
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Europe is NOT Northern Africa, its not even attached to any part of Africa, it is however firmly connected to ASIA.
Doxie dear, a person can WALK from Africa to Europe, just as a person can WALK from Asia to Europe.
Modern demarcation lines were created by you Albinos to separate yourselves from normal humans (correctly so), but they have no practical meaning.
BTW - You make much of the Asia connection, so are you now accepting that you are Dravidian Albinos from Central Asia?
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Below is the migration route of the earliest Europeans:
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by jantavanta:
quote:Originally posted by mena7: Great info Jantavanta. Norse God Thor come from the Egyptian Goddess Hathor.Norse God Odin come from Igbo Goddess Odinani.It look like there was African religious missionary in prehistoric Europe.The Celtic hero Merlin name come from Ibo God Eri so Merlin is Mel Eri.
All the Celtic Fantasy genre of storybooks are based on 'Whitened' African cosmology. Prof Wande Abimbola's Book: Ifa Will Mend Our Broken World , has more info on that. King Arthur of the Arthurian Legends is also from Hathor.
Merlin was said to have disappeared under the sea for some years of tutelage, which is similar to Ibo lore about special children who disappear under the river for some time.
All Dr. Abimbola says in that books is
"There were several European epic poems and chanting traditions that may a parallel Ifa and Ijala poetry as performed as an art"
That just means there are similarities. Similarities is not evidence of transmission of knowledge and Dr.Abimbola does not say that. There is nothing to worry about. We as Africans or as people of African descent do not need the Celts to validate us. As you said the most likly areas for trasmission of African knowledge to Eurasia would be in areas closest to Africa such as the Egypt to the MIddle East/Mediterranean. Nigeria is not close to Western Europe. There is a path to migration of peoples it doesn't just make huge jumps to other locations
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lioness - What is your point in posting this map from the Fox/Cooper family website?
This home made NON-OFFICIAL map seems to detail the mutations of haplogroup "F", what does that have to do with Albinos like yourself, except that it shows your transition (M45) in CENTRAL ASIA?
In human genetics, haplogroup F is a very common Y-chromosome haplogroup spanning all the continents. This haplogroup and its subclades contain more than 90% of the world's existing non-African male population. Sometimes it is referred to as haplogroup FT to distinguish the part of it which is referred to in standard nomenclature as haplogroup (or paragroup) F-M89* (the branches of haplogroup F-M89 which have not yet been designated as defining a major haplogroup of their own).
This haplogroup is ancestral to, and contains, Y-chromosome haplogroups G (M201), H (M69), and IJK (L15/S137, L16/S138, L69.1(=G)/S163.1) along with their descendant haplogroups.
In human genetics, Haplogroup P (M45) is a Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup.
This haplogroup contains the patrilineal ancestors of most Europeans and almost all of the indigenous peoples of the Americas. It also contains approximately one third to two thirds of the males among various populations of Central Asia and Southern Asia.
He,he,he:
Doxie, are you paying attention? Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Lioness - What is your point in posting this map from the Fox/Cooper family website?
This home made NON-OFFICIAL map seems to detail the mutations of haplogroup "F", what does that have to do with Albinos like yourself, except that it shows your transition (M45) in CENTRAL ASIA?
Haplogroup F-M89 (Y-DNA)
In human genetics, haplogroup F is a very common Y-chromosome haplogroup spanning all the continents. This haplogroup and its subclades contain more than 90% of the world's existing non-African male population. Sometimes it is referred to as haplogroup FT to distinguish the part of it which is referred to in standard nomenclature as haplogroup (or paragroup) F-M89* (the branches of haplogroup F-M89 which have not yet been designated as defining a major haplogroup of their own).
This haplogroup is ancestral to, and contains, Y-chromosome haplogroups G (M201), H (M69), and IJK (L15/S137, L16/S138, L69.1(=G)/S163.1) along with their descendant haplogroups.
In human genetics, Haplogroup P (M45) is a Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup.
This haplogroup contains the patrilineal ancestors of most Europeans and almost all of the indigenous peoples of the Americas. It also contains approximately one third to two thirds of the males among various populations of Central Asia and Southern Asia.
He,he,he:
Doxie, are you paying attention?
Mike don't be dumb and assume that because I posted a map form a particular websiste that that is the original source of that map and that the same map did not appear on several websites. You have already been busted altering "offical" maps. And by "official" we all know you mean "albino approved" maps. The map above shows the migration of R1b (M113) not F you clown. The map above is only one of several maps showing the same thing,
For example here's one from your webiste you posted:
Of course you have no idea how to sort out which routes into Europe came first because this map doesn't indicate that. However what it does show is that one of the paths is the same path.
You mention Haplogroup F (M189) and P(M45)
Mike no problem its all there the path of the earliest migration into Europe including F (M189) and P(M45)
in chronological sequence out of Africa path leading to first inhabitants of Europe
M168 - 50kya
M89 - 45kya
M9 - 40kya
M45 - 35kya
M207 - 34kya
M173 (R1) -30 kya
M343 (R1b1) - 25kya
(give or take on dates, it's the sequence and path that are important)
^^^ there it is Mike no discrepancy
Look below you Kostenki man is along the route M173 passing through Southern Russia. Yes Mike their ancestors from Central Asia
Mike also notice on your blue map above from the same M89 branch there is an extention to the Anatolia region and then South Europe that is M172 a much later offshoot about 10,000 years ago otherwise known as haplogroup J
lioness productions
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^He,he,he:
My, my, isn't Lioness the confused one.
Perhaps this will help you my little lying Albino.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Sorry Lioness, I didn't mean to stump you completely. As we all know, If not for you, this site would have died years ago. Thus you always need an opening for a lie to keep things going. This one is taking a bit too long, but I have faith in you, please try harder.
Your Pal Mike.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Sorry Lioness, I didn't mean to stump you completely. As we all know, If not for you, this site would have died years ago. Thus you always need an opening for a lie to keep things going. This one is taking a bit too long, but I have faith in you, please try harder.
Your Pal Mike.
I'm not stumped I just realize I''m arguing aginst somebody who can't undertsand or doesn't want to in order to carry on a deception. All you did was put up the waorld haplogroup tree. It's changes nothing in regard to the out of Africa migration path of the earliest R1 Europeans out of Africa and the evolving haplgroups along that path. Clyde understands this he simply calls the whole thing African. You don't undertand or are pretending not to the timelines for these OOA migrations. The blue map you put up has all the brances without the timelines but the branching is clear the early population of Europe comes form your favorite Central Asian location as do Kostenki man. You can see how the arrow enter into Western Europe. The later J group comes from the Near Est into Anatolia nad South Europe. Europe Western Europe had already been populated for thousands of years. This rudimenatry knowledge.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Excellent Lioness, I have no idea what you said, and others will have the same problem. We may now move forward (or at least keep the thread open).
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Excellent Lioness, I have no idea what you said, and others will have the same problem. We may now move forward (or at least keep the thread open).
You are probably right. Only some people in this forum have rudimenatry understanding of these migration maps based on DNA. You are not one of them but yet are the imperial wizard of the ignorant
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Mike, nope not at all, we are NOT Dravidian nor are we Albinos, nor do we come from Central Asia LOL. You just don't want to admit that the Vikings & Celts were White & are among our ancestors LOL.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Mike, nope not at all, we are NOT Dravidian nor are we Albinos, nor do we come from Central Asia LOL. You just don't want to admit that the Vikings & Celts were White & are among our ancestors LOL.
white people did not pop up out of nowhere in Europe. Their ancestors were in places before they got to Europe. You need to acknowlege that
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Mike, nope not at all, we are NOT Dravidian nor are we Albinos, nor do we come from Central Asia LOL. You just don't want to admit that the Vikings & Celts were White & are among our ancestors LOL.
white people did not pop up out of nowhere in Europe. Their ancestors were in places before they got to Europe. You need to acknowlege that
Pay no attention to Lioness Doxie, I prefer you just the way you are (delusional).
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Speaking of delusional:
I was recently watching a BBC newsprogram; BBC world debate on democracy in the Middle East hosted by Nik Gowing.
The panelist were from left to right:
U.S. reporter.
A Turk.
An Egyptian.
A south African Indian.
I kept wondering, just who the hell do these people think that their fooling?
They talking about Africa and adjacent lands, but not a single Black person was on the panel or in the audience.
But that's good, it should keep Blacks from getting too caught-up in their nonsense.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
Mike, the nationalities of the above panelists is irrelevant to the fact they are all black Look the comparison: Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by jantavanta:
quote:Originally posted by mena7: Great info Jantavanta. Norse God Thor come from the Egyptian Goddess Hathor.Norse God Odin come from Igbo Goddess Odinani.It look like there was African religious missionary in prehistoric Europe.The Celtic hero Merlin name come from Ibo God Eri so Merlin is Mel Eri.
All the Celtic Fantasy genre of storybooks are based on 'Whitened' African cosmology. Prof Wande Abimbola's Book: Ifa Will Mend Our Broken World , has more info on that. King Arthur of the Arthurian Legends is also from Hathor.
Merlin was said to have disappeared under the sea for some years of tutelage, which is similar to Ibo lore about special children who disappear under the river for some time.
just because there were some black clans that were among the early Scandinavians doesn't mean one should say the Vikings were blacks. That to me is more ridiculous than saying ancient Egyptians and Mauri were whites.
obviously most cosmoology in the world derives from Africa but Vijkings being mainly descendants of white large bodied fair and red haired Goths/ Getae i.e. Scythians could easily have picked up their cosmology earlier in the Ukraine some where. Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
dana marniche - The point was made that "Some" Vikings (Culturally speaking) were Blacks. Not that some Germanics (ethnically speaking) were Blacks, mulattoes not withstanding.
Posted by jantavanta (Member # 20328) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by jantavanta:
quote:Originally posted by mena7: Great info Jantavanta. Norse God Thor come from the Egyptian Goddess Hathor.Norse God Odin come from Igbo Goddess Odinani.It look like there was African religious missionary in prehistoric Europe.The Celtic hero Merlin name come from Ibo God Eri so Merlin is Mel Eri.
All the Celtic Fantasy genre of storybooks are based on 'Whitened' African cosmology. Prof Wande Abimbola's Book: Ifa Will Mend Our Broken World , has more info on that. King Arthur of the Arthurian Legends is also from Hathor.
Merlin was said to have disappeared under the sea for some years of tutelage, which is similar to Ibo lore about special children who disappear under the river for some time.
All Dr. Abimbola says in that books is
"There were several European epic poems and chanting traditions that may a parallel Ifa and Ijala poetry as performed as an art"
That just means there are similarities. Similarities is not evidence of transmission of knowledge and Dr.Abimbola does not say that. There is nothing to worry about. We as Africans or as people of African descent do not need the Celts to validate us. As you said the most likly areas for trasmission of African knowledge to Eurasia would be in areas closest to Africa such as the Egypt to the MIddle East/Mediterranean. Nigeria is not close to Western Europe. There is a path to migration of peoples it doesn't just make huge jumps to other locations
It is good to know that some people are reading Prof. Abimbola's book. He mentioned similarities but I am the one saying that Nigeria is a nucleus culture. The Ancient Egyptian cosmology is an astrologized Nigerian cosmology. Northern Africa was in the path of migration. 45,000 years ago during the migration to Europe, the language and cultural differences between Nigeria and the northern african region were minimal, so minimal, that Japanese could easily fit into an African language. For example the Ancient egyptian Khnum who molded human beings out of clay and Obatala who molded human beings out of clay for Olodumare to give the 'breath of life'.
A few days ago, I was watching National Geographic Channel Genome Project and it was obvious that they are denying the direct migration from Africa into Europe, as if there was a Neanderthals-Only immigration counter at the closest point between Spain and Morocco. Or was there a 45,000 year old Treaty that said Africans should migrate eastwards and leave these Neanderthals to walk across the strait of Gibraltar into Spain?
Posted by jantavanta (Member # 20328) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by jantavanta:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by jantavanta: Thor, the Norse God of Thunder and Lightning evolved from Hathor , the ancient Egyptian Deity. Gods of Thunder and lightning exist in Yoruba and Igbo Cosmology as Sango and Amadioha respectively.
Odin evolved from Odinani, the Igbo cosmology
just because you can find similarity it doesn't mean there is a connection , that one culture knew the other culture's myth -because people often come up with similar ideas.
looking at some of these older roots with the letter "w" first it doesn't look as similar to the Igbo,.........................
The Egyptian beliefs were the backdoor to the African Mystery System. The Yoruba and Igbo cosmologies are nucleus cultural beliefs that evolved over space and time to become the astrologized ancient egyptian religion. Ancient Egypt is the big daughter of Ethiopia. There are more pyramids in Sudan than in Egypt, but National Geographic Channel prefers to ignore them. The Vikings are of Ancient egyptian/Sudanese origin as shown in http://www.beforebc.de/Related.Subjects/Ships.Sea-faring/92-10-825.html
Europe is Northern Africa. The present Whitening of the Ancient Egyptian history is an extension of what had taken place in Europe in the past 200 years.
You have no business teaching us the academic way of doing things because the oldest universities in europe are in the regions closest to the african continent.
yet you were talking about the Norse God Odin which is at the extreme North of Europe. You are suggesting connection between the region now called Nigeria and Norway? Alusi is the God of thunder and lightning in the Igbo belief system called Odinani
The oldest Universities in Europe are also the bottom 7 of the list of the world's oldest univeristies:
4. University of Bologna: Italy founded in 1088
5.University of Paris: This university’s exact founding is unclear; however, teaching from this university existed since 1096.
6.University of Oxford: Like the University of Paris, the exact date of this university’s founding is unclear. The formal founding date, however, is 1096
7.University of Montpelier: Located in Montpelier, France, this university also is considerably older than its founding date of 1150.
8.University of Cambridge: Known as the second-oldest university in the English-speaking world, this university was formed by scholars who left the University of Oxford over a dispute in 1209.
9.University of Salamanca: Located in Salamanca, Spain, this school was established in 1218 and obtained the title of “university” by Alexander IV’s papal bull in 1225.
10.University of Padua: This is the second oldest university in Italy, falling behind the University of Bologna. This university was founded in 1222
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^^^ As we can see the oldest universities in Europe are spread thoughout Europe. Only 3 of the 7 are in Italy or Spain
The remaining top 3 oldest universities in the world are also the top oldest Universities in the world , older than Europe's. They are Islamic, two located In North Afrca, one in what is now called Iran
1. University of Al-Karaouine: Located in Fes, Morocco, this university originally was a mosque founded in 859 by Fatima al-Fihri, a woman
2.Al-Azhar University: This university, located in Egypt, is the world’s second oldest surviving degree-granting institute. Founded in 970-972, this university serves as a center for Arabic literature and Sunni Islamic learning.
3. Nizamiyya: This series of universities was established by Khwaja Nizam al-Mulk in the eleventh century in what is now present-day Iran. The most celebrated of all the Nizamiyya schools is Al-Nizamiyya of Baghdad, established in 1065 in Dhu’l Qa’da and that remains operational in Isfahan.
You are simply posting that the worlds's universities are from Churches or Mosques, as if learning does not pre-date Christianity or Islam.
Posted by jantavanta (Member # 20328) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Mike, nope not at all, we are NOT Dravidian nor are we Albinos, nor do we come from Central Asia LOL. You just don't want to admit that the Vikings & Celts were White & are among our ancestors LOL.
Your albinism belongs to the category that took place after the sinking of the all-Black Atlantis Civilization. If you want a confirmation contact Sat Guru Maharaj Ji, The Living Perfect Master.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by jantavanta: A few days ago, I was watching National Geographic Channel Genome Project and it was obvious that they are denying the direct migration from Africa into Europe, as if there was a Neanderthals-Only immigration counter at the closest point between Spain and Morocco. Or was there a 45,000 year old Treaty that said Africans should migrate eastwards and leave these Neanderthals to walk across the strait of Gibraltar into Spain?
jantavanta - I'm surprised that I have to remind you that U.S. media outlets like National Geographic, Discovery, Nature, etc: have nothing to do with the truth, they are about feeding the "Feel Good" (we were there, they were us) Albino myths.
If you get tired of their lies and nonsense, then all you can do is research the matter for yourself and disseminate the truth through venues like this one.
Posted by jantavanta (Member # 20328) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Jantavanta, stupid Kill Whitey, White people genocidist, White people hating Black racist POS. We Whites did NOT invade Europe, we are indigenous to Europe. Why can't you Kill Whitey Black racist half wits be happy with your own history in Africa & stop trying to steal other people's stuff. BTW, Europe is NOT Northern Africa, its not even attached to any part of Africa, it is however firmly connected to ASIA.
You have a pathological fear of Black People killing you because in the beginning of Creation, there were no White people. Those of you who come to Africa to work as expatriates are always sad to leave when their contracts expire because you are having a good time among us.
Posted by jantavanta (Member # 20328) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by jantavanta: A few days ago, I was watching National Geographic Channel Genome Project and it was obvious that they are denying the direct migration from Africa into Europe, as if there was a Neanderthals-Only immigration counter at the closest point between Spain and Morocco. Or was there a 45,000 year old Treaty that said Africans should migrate eastwards and leave these Neanderthals to walk across the strait of Gibraltar into Spain?
jantavanta - I'm surprised that I have to remind you that U.S. media outlets like National Geographic, Discovery, Nature, etc: have nothing to do with the truth, they are about feeding the "Feel Good" (we were there, they were us) Albino myths.
If you get tired of their lies and nonsense, then all you can do is research the matter for yourself and disseminate the truth through venues like this one.
Mike111, I had gotten tired of their lies and nonsense. I intentionally watched this Genome Project episode to see how they audio visually create their lies because many here are hooked on that Channel for educational purposes and may not be able to come to learn from this venue.
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^THE ANSWER......
This wasn't the Albinos first time!
Whats up my brotha I have a question to ask.
I have been searching for the name or book or name of the tapestry that this comes from. If I am not mistaken I have seen this in a book years ago.
Do you know the name?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by jantavanta: A few days ago, I was watching National Geographic Channel Genome Project and it was obvious that they are denying the direct migration from Africa into Europe, as if there was a Neanderthals-Only immigration counter at the closest point between Spain and Morocco. Or was there a 45,000 year old Treaty that said Africans should migrate eastwards and leave these Neanderthals to walk across the strait of Gibraltar into Spain?
jantavanta - I'm surprised that I have to remind you that U.S. media outlets like National Geographic, Discovery, Nature, etc: have nothing to do with the truth, they are about feeding the "Feel Good" (we were there, they were us) Albino myths.
If you get tired of their lies and nonsense, then all you can do is research the matter for yourself and disseminate the truth through venues like this one.
yet Mike uses Nat Geo maps on his website
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^HITMAN, that looks like a tapestry similar to the wild men and moors tapestry. I have not seen that one before.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
giant wildmen and moors are used in mythological tapestrys along with unicorns and dragons
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Jantastupidassracist,
I checked that stupid idiot you mentioned out & just as I thought another crack pot LOL. Stupid ass actually believes that people can survive for more than a few minutes under water ROTFLMWBO. I thought that you, Mike, Nontruthhitman, & the rest of your genocide Whitey ilk were crazy but daaammmmnnnn that fruit loop has ya'll beat by a long shot. Not only that he thinks he is GOD ROTFLMBO!!!!! Ok Ok let me get a grip here, nothing will change the fact that just like you, Mike, Nontruthhitman, he is a Kill Whitey, Genocide Whitey, history stealing, lying, Non-White racist moron just like you. As I have said before we Whites have the right, to our history, our heritage, our identities, our homeland without you Kill Whitey Black racist POS's trying to rob us of it.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
quote:another crack pot LOL. Stupid ass actually believes that people can survive for more than a few minutes under water ROTFLMWBO. I thought that you, Mike, Nontruthhitman, & the rest of your genocide Whitey ilk were crazy but daaammmmnnnn that fruit loop has ya'll beat by a long shot
Mike is genuine in his beliefs (he's mentally ill). However most the others are parodies.
Its now impossible to tell who is a 'real' Afroloon (a part from the old posters like mike and clyde) and someone that is mocking or playing along to parody it. Most these new accounts are obvious parodies.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^^^ conspiracy menatality
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
^ Half the new accounts posing as Afrocentrics, look like this in real life:
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
LOL I dont think Afrocentric look like that but obese people on disability and mentaly sick people on disability have plenty of time in their hands to surf the internet all day and all night.Exemple there is one member at ESF who stalk another member reposting the same thread all the time.
Posted by Bonampak420 (Member # 20156) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Jantastupidassracist,
I checked that stupid idiot you mentioned out & just as I thought another crack pot LOL. Stupid ass actually believes that people can survive for more than a few minutes under water ROTFLMWBO. I thought that you, Mike, Nontruthhitman, & the rest of your genocide Whitey ilk were crazy but daaammmmnnnn that fruit loop has ya'll beat by a long shot. Not only that he thinks he is GOD ROTFLMBO!!!!!
An Albino talking about crack pot LMAO!!! You idiots see black achievement and when you cant lie, tie, and leech your sub human asses to it, you say people from outer space flew here!!!!
Posted by jantavanta (Member # 20328) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Jantastupidassracist,
I checked that stupid idiot you mentioned out & just as I thought another crack pot LOL. Stupid ass actually believes that people can survive for more than a few minutes under water ROTFLMWBO. I thought that you, Mike, Nontruthhitman, & the rest of your genocide Whitey ilk were crazy but daaammmmnnnn that fruit loop has ya'll beat by a long shot. Not only that he thinks he is GOD ROTFLMBO!!!!! Ok Ok let me get a grip here, nothing will change the fact that just like you, Mike, Nontruthhitman, he is a Kill Whitey, Genocide Whitey, history stealing, lying, Non-White racist moron just like you. As I have said before we Whites have the right, to our history, our heritage, our identities, our homeland without you Kill Whitey Black racist POS's trying to rob us of it.
DeHydrateDoxies,
You are not content with your brief history so you make up stories to enlarge your self-worth.
Posted by jantavanta (Member # 20328) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers:
quote:another crack pot LOL. Stupid ass actually believes that people can survive for more than a few minutes under water ROTFLMWBO. I thought that you, Mike, Nontruthhitman, & the rest of your genocide Whitey ilk were crazy but daaammmmnnnn that fruit loop has ya'll beat by a long shot
Mike is genuine in his beliefs (he's mentally ill). However most the others are parodies.
Its now impossible to tell who is a 'real' Afroloon (a part from the old posters like mike and clyde) and someone that is mocking or playing along to parody it. Most these new accounts are obvious parodies.
You obviously thought Mike111 would be the last of posters. Africans are waking up from the sleep-inducing educational curriculum written by White colonial masters for Black children.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by jantavanta: Africans are waking up from the sleep-inducing educational curriculum written by White colonial masters for Black children.
I don't know if that's a good thing, or a bad thing. Please follow my thinking for a moment:
True history makes it clear that at some point, the new Albino arrivals from Central Asia (Germanics/Slavs) convinced themselves that they were the victims of Black prejudice and oppression. Accordingly they convinced themselves that no atrocity would be too great in order to free themselves from that situation. (Similar to the Khazar attitude in Palestine).
The result was Black genocide in Europe and the Americas, (the indigenous Blacks in the Americas were killed and replaced by Blacks under Albino control from Europe and Africa).
The problem is that knowledge like that is harmless at this level, where it is only discussed by denizens of internet forums like us.
But once it gains credibility, where ordinary people start thinking about it and asking questions; well then it's not harmless any more.
Such knowledge begs a response to what the Albinos did. Somehow I'm not comfortable having Africans considering what that response should be; (I once had an African suggest to me that I go to the U.N. to get money to teach true history in Africa (they're clueless).
Africans would likely put us back into an endless cycle of racial conquest and decline, we need to move beyond that. But that's not to say that we do not note what the Albinos did, of course we do, and we remember it as to what they are capable of, but still, we must move on. Accordingly, I say let's leave Africans as the last to know, I think the world will be safer that way.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
Africans would likely put us back into an endless cycle of racial conquest and decline, we need to move beyond that. But that's not to say that we do not note what the Albinos did, of course we do, and we remember it as to what they are capable of, but still, we must move on. Accordingly, I say let's leave Africans as the last to know, I think the world will be safer that way. [/QB]
Mike, Are you not the one who is constantly going back in time searching for secret genocides in Old Europe?
That's "moving on" ?
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Mike, Who was the leader of the black genocide? Who was the ancient Hitler?
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
If there was genocide so exist many skulls in some sitio
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
I prefer believe in egmond's theory that a little black elite ruled the white majority. The elite was black and did not mix. Beneath the black and white people mingled through interracial relationships most became white.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: I prefer believe in egmond's theory that a little black elite ruled the white majority. The elite was black and did not mix. Beneath the black and white people mingled through interracial relationships most became white.
how is a little black elite going to control a large white majority? That can only happen in modern times when one side has guns and the other doesn't
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: Mike, Who was the leader of the black genocide? Who was the ancient Hitler?
Queen Elizabeth
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Mike, Are you not the one who is constantly going back in time searching for secret genocides in Old Europe?
That's "moving on" ?
There was no secret genocides:
There was "RACE WARS" called religious or territorial wars.
We cannot move on, until there has been a full accounting of the Albinos atrocities: Visa Vie something like South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
Look at Mali's post, do you think that the average Black person believes nonsense like that?
No, and they will not be satisfied with anything but a full accounting.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: There was no secret genocides:
There was "RACE WARS" called religious or territorial wars.
1066 Norman Conquest 1096 - 1291 Crusades 1096 - 1099 First Crusade 1101 Crusade of 1101 1147 - 1149 Second Crusade 1187 - 1191 Third Crusade 1202 - 1204 Fourth Crusade 1209 - 1229 Albigensian Crusade 1212 Children's Crusade (Often believed to be just a story) 1217 - 1221 Fifth Crusade 1228 Sixth Crusade 1248 - 1254 Seventh Crusade 1270 Eighth Crusade 1271 - 1291 Ninth Crusade 1293 - 1323 War between Sweden and Novgorod ended up with Treaty of Nöteborg 1296 - 1328 First War of Scottish Independence 1332 - 1333 Second War of Scottish Independence 1337 - 1453 Hundred Years' War 1341 - 1364 Breton War of Succession 1420 - 1436 Hussite Wars 1454 - 1466 Thirteen Years' War. Between Poland and Teutonic Knights, which finally broke the power of the latter. 1455 - 1485 Wars of the Roses 1474 - 1477 War between the Duchy of Burgundy and the Swiss Confederation 1478 - War between the Principality of Moscow and the Republic of Novgorod. The latter was conquered. 1494 - 1559 Italian Wars 1494 - 1498 Charles VIII's Italian War 1499 - 1500 Louis XII's war with Milan 1500 - 1502 Franco-Spanish Conquest of Naples 1502 - 1505 Franco-Spanish War over Naples 1508 - 1510 War of the League of Cambrai 1510 - 1513 War of the Holy League 1511 - 1514 Anglo-French War 1513 Anglo-Scottish War (Battle of Flodden) 1515 - 1516 Francis I's first Italian war 1521 - 1525 First war of Francis and Charles V 1521-1525 Anglo-French War 1526 - 1529 War of the League of Cognac 1536 - 1538 Third War of Francis and Charles 1542 - 1544 Last War of Francis and Charles 1542 - 1546 Anglo-French War 1542 - 1550 Anglo-Scottish War 1549 - 1550 Anglo-French War 1552 - 1559 Last Italian War 1557 - 1559 Anglo-French War 1495 - 1497 Russo-Swedish War 1499 - 1503 Turkish-Venetian War1509 - 1513 Ottoman Civil War 1514 - 1516 Ottoman-Safavid War 1515 - 1523 Rebellion of the Frisians 1516 - 1517 Ottoman-Mamluk War 1521 - 1523 The Swedish War of Liberation 1521 - 1523 Uprising of the Comuneros in Castile 1521 - 1526 Ottoman-Hungarian War 1522 Ottoman Conquest of Rhodes 1522 The Knights' War in Germany 1524 - 1525 The Peasants' War in Germany 1526 - 1528 Hungarian Civil War 1526 - 1555 Ottoman-Safavid War 1528 - 1533 Ottoman-Habsburg War in Hungary 1531 Swiss Civil War between Zürich and the Catholic cantons 1532 - 1546 Ottoman-Habsburg War in the Mediterranean 1533 - 1536 The Counts' War in Denmark 1537 - 1544 Renewed Ottoman-Habsburg War in Hungary 1546 - 1547 Schmalkaldic War 1551 - 1562 Ottoman-Habsburg War in Hungary 1551 - 1581 Ottoman-Habsburg War in the Mediterranean (Battle of Lepanto (1571)) 1552 - 1555 Charles V's war with Maurice of Saxony 1554 - 1557 Great Russian War 1557 - 1571 Livonian War 1559 - 1560 Scottish Rebellion against the French 1562 - 1598 Wars of Religion in France, also called War of the Three Henries or Huguenot Wars
1562 - 1563 First War of Religion 1567 - 1568 Second War of Religion 1568 - 1570 Third War of Religion 1572 - 1573 Fourth War of Religion 1575 - 1576 Fifth War of Religion 1576 - 1577 Sixth War of Religion 1580 Seventh War of Religion (Lovers' War) 1585 - 1598 Eighth War of Religion 1589 - 1598 Franco-Spanish War 1562 - 1568 Ottoman-Habsburg War in Hungary 1563 - 1570 Northern Seven Years' War also known as Dano-Swedish War 1566 (or 1568) - 1648 Eighty Years' War (war of Dutch independence) 1566(or 1568) - 1609 First Phase 1621 - 1648 Second Phase 1567 - 1573 Scottish Civil War 1568 - 1571 Morisco Revolt in Spain 1570 - 1595 Twenty-five Years' War between Sweden and Russia 1577 - 1582 Livonian War (Poland vs. Russia) 1577 - 1590 Turkish-Persian War 1580 - 1583 Portuguese Civil War 1585 - 1604 Anglo-Spanish War (Spanish Armada, 1588) 1590 - 1606 "Long War" between the Empire and the Turks 1594 - 1603 Tyrone Rebellion in Ireland 1596 - 1597 The Cudgel War in Finland 1600 - 1611 Polish-Swedish War
1602 - 1612 Turkish-Persian War 1609 - 1618 Russo-Polish War 1610 - 1617 Ingrian War between Sweden and Russia 1611 - 1613 War of Kalmar between Sweden and Denmark 1613 - 1617 Russo-Swedish War 1614 - 1621 Polish-Turkish War 1616 - 1618 Turkish-Persian War 1617 - 1629 Polish-Swedish War 1618 - 1648 Thirty Years' War across Europe, ends with the Peace of Westphalia. 1618 - 1625 Bohemian/Palatine Phase 1618 - 1629 Austro-Transylvanian War 1625 - 1629 Danish Phase 1625 - 1630 Anglo-Spanish War 1626 - 1630 Anglo-French War 1627 - 1631 War of the Mantuan Succession 1630 - 1635 Swedish Phase 1635 - 1648 French Phase 1635 - 1659 Franco-Spanish War (ending with the Treaty of the Pyrenees) 1645 Renewed Austro-Transylvanian War 1623 - 1638 Turkish-Persian War 1625 - 1629 Huguenot Uprising in France 1632 - 1634 Russo-Polish War 1634 Polish-Swedish War 1637 Pequot War 1639 - 1652 English Civil War
1639 First Bishops' War 1640 Second Bishops' War 1641 - 1650 Irish War 1642 - 1646 First Civil War 1648 Second Civil War 1650 - 1652 Scottish Uprising 1640 - 1656 Catalan Revolt 1640 - 1668 Portuguese War of Independence 1645 - 1670 Turkish-Venetian War 1648 - 1653 The Fronde 1648 - 1649 First Fronde 1650 - 1653 Second Fronde 1648 - 1660 The Deluge/Northern Wars, A series of wars involving Poland, Sweden, Brandenburg, Russia and Transylvania and Denmark 1648 - 1654 Cossack Revolt against Poland 1654 - 1656 Russo-Polish War 1655 - 1656 Swedish-Brandenburg War 1655 - 1660 Polish-Swedish War 1656 - 1658 Russo-Swedish War 1656 - 1660 Danish-Swedish War 1657 - 1660 Dutch-Swedish War 1658 - 1667 Russo-Polish War 1652 - 1654 First Anglo-Dutch War 1656 - 1659 Anglo-Spanish War 1657 - 1662 Turkish-Transylvanian War 1662 - 1664 Austro-Turkish War
1665 - 1667 Second Anglo-Dutch War preceded by the capture of New Amsterdam, renamed New York City 1667 - 1668 War of Devolution 1671 - 1676 Polish-Turkish War 1672 - 1678 Dutch War 1672 - 1674 Third Anglo-Dutch War 1672 - 1679 War between Brandenburg and Sweden 1675 - 1679 Scanian War between Sweden and Denmark 1675 - 1676 King Philip's War 1678 - 1681 Russo-Turkish War 1682 - 1699 War of the Holy League (Austria, Venice, and Poland vs. Ottomans 1685 Monmouth's Rebellion 1688 - 1697 War of the Grand Alliance 1689 - 1691 Irish Jacobite Uprising 1695 - 1700 Russo-Turkish War 1700 - 1721 Great Northern War between a coalition of Denmark/Norway, Russia and Saxony/Poland on one side and Sweden on the other side 1710 - 1711 Russo-Turkish War, 1710-11, a part of the Great Northern War 1715 - 1717 Polish revolt against King Augustus II 1701 - 1714 War of Spanish Succession 1702 - 1713 Queen Anne's War The North American part of the War of Spanish Succession 1703 - 1711 Hungarian Revolt 1714 - 1718 Turko-Venetian War 1715 - 1716 Jacobite Rebellion also known as "The Fifteen" 1716 - 1718 Austro-Turkish War 1718 - 1720 War of the Quadruple Alliance
1722 - 1723 Russo-Persian War 1722-1723 1722 - 1727 Turco-Persian War 1727 - 1729 largely bloodless Spanish war with England and France 1730 - 1736 Turco-Persian War 1733 - 1738 War of the Polish Succession 1736 - 1739 Russo-Turkish War 1737 - 1739 Austro-Turkish War 1740 - 1748 War of the Austrian Succession 1739 - 1748 War of Jenkins' Ear 1740 - 1742 1st Silesian War 1741 - 1743 Hats' Russian War between Sweden and Russia 1744 - 1748 King George's War The North American part of the War of Austrian Succession 1744 - 1745 2nd Silesian War 1744 - 1748 First Carnatic War 1745 - 1746 "The Forty-five" 1743 - 1747 Turco-Persian War 1749 - 1754 Second Carnatic War 1756 - 1763 Seven Years' War, known as the French and Indian War in the United States, and also 3rd Silesian War 1761 - 1763 Spanish-Portuguese War 1763 - 1766 Pontiac's Rebellion 1768 - 1774 Russo-Turkish War 1768 - 1776 War of the Confederation of Bar in Poland 1773 - 1774 Pugachev's Rebellion 1774 - 1783 First Anglo-Maratha War 1775 - 1783 American Revolutionary War
1778 - 1783 Anglo-French War 1779 - 1783 Anglo-Spanish War 1780 - 1784 Anglo-Dutch War 1777 - 1779 War of the Bavarian Succession 1785 - 1787 Dutch Civil War 1787 - 1791 Austro-Turkish War 1787 - 1792 Russo-Turkish War 1788 - 1790 Gustav III's Russian War also known as Russo-Swedish War 1791 - 1804 Haiti Revolutionary War 1792 War in defence of the constitution in Poland 1792 - 1802 French Revolutionary Wars 1792 - 1797 War of the First Coalition 1792 - 1795 Franco-Prussian War 1792 - 1797 Franco-Austrian War 1793 - 1795 Franco-Spanish War 1793 - 1795 Franco-Dutch War 1793 - 1802 Franco-British War 1798 - 1801 War of the Second Coalition 1798 - 1799 Franco-Russian War 1799 - 1801 Franco-Austrian War 1798 - 1801 Quasi War 1794 Kosciuszko Uprising in Poland 1795 - 1798 United Irishmen Revolt
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
^^^^All these are genocide of whites against blacks?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: All these are genocide of whites against blacks?
Why not look them up to see what they were about.
When the stated reason for the war doesn't make sense, then you can assume that it was a Race War or a war with racial overtones.
Sometimes, it's just necessary to know what the people looked like, to know what the war was about.
Example:
1715 - 1716 Jacobite Rebellion also known as "The Fifteen"
The Jacobite Risings were a series of uprisings, rebellions, and wars in Great Britain and Ireland occurring between 1688 and 1746. The uprisings were aimed at returning James VII of Scotland and II of England, and later his descendants of the House of Stuart, to the throne after he was deposed by Parliament during the Glorious Revolution. The series of conflicts takes its name from Jacobitism, from Jacobus, the Latin form of James.
NOTE WHAT A BRITISH KING "USED" TO LOOK LIKE!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: NOTE WHAT A BRITISH KING "USED" TO LOOK LIKE!
NOW LOOK A WHAT A MODERN ROYAL LOOKS LIKE - note the lack of melanin.
Many people had to die to enable that transition. Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: All these are genocide of whites against blacks?
Why not look them up to see what they were about.
When the stated reason for the war doesn't make sense, then you can assume that it was a Race War or a war with racial overtones.
Sometimes, it's just necessary to know what the people looked like, to know what the war was about.
Example:
1715 - 1716 Jacobite Rebellion also known as "The Fifteen"
The Jacobite Risings were a series of uprisings, rebellions, and wars in Great Britain and Ireland occurring between 1688 and 1746. The uprisings were aimed at returning James VII of Scotland and II of England, and later his descendants of the House of Stuart, to the throne after he was deposed by Parliament during the Glorious Revolution. The series of conflicts takes its name from Jacobitism, from Jacobus, the Latin form of James.
NOTE WHAT A BRITISH KING "USED" TO LOOK LIKE!
Nolook like black man look the straight hair This is forgery
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul:
NOTE WHAT A BRITISH KING "USED" TO LOOK LIKE!
No look like black man look the straight hair This is forgery
So Black people don't have straight hair???
Damn Mali, even for a Brazilian, you're kinda fuched-up.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
I know that blacks have straight hair but this is more rare. I need more proofs because whites have the same face of that portrait
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Here is the list of many historians of ancient times.
CHAPTER XXI — HOW A PRINCE SHOULD CONDUCT HIMSELF SO AS TO GAIN RENOWN
Nothing makes a prince so much esteemed as great enterprises and setting a fine example. We have in our time Ferdinand of Aragon, the present King of Spain. He can almost be called a new prince, because he has risen, by fame and glory, from being an insignificant king to be the foremost king in Christendom; and if you will consider his deeds you will find them all great and some of them extraordinary. In the beginning of his reign he attacked Granada, and this enterprise was the foundation of his dominions. He did this quietly at first and without any fear of hindrance, for he held the minds of the barons of Castile occupied in thinking of the war and not anticipating any innovations; thus they did not perceive that by these means he was acquiring power and authority over them. He was able with the money of the Church and of the people to sustain his armies, and by that long war to lay the foundation for the military skill which has since distinguished him. Further, always using religion as a plea, so as to undertake greater schemes, he devoted himself with pious cruelty to driving out and clearing his kingdom of the Moors; nor could there be a more admirable example, nor one more rare. Under this same cloak he assailed Africa, he came down on Italy, he has finally attacked France; and thus his achievements and designs have always been great, and have kept the minds of his people in suspense and admiration and occupied with the issue of them. And his actions have arisen in such a way, one out of the other, that men have never been given time to work steadily against him.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ]So Black people don't have straight hair???
Damn Mali, even for a Brazilian, you're kinda fuched-up. [/QB]
Don't know the first one, but second (posted) is actor Ron o Neil, who was mixed race, not Negroid. Note specifically because of his straighter hair, he could not play a "Black man" in most movies:
"O'Neal experienced this paradox outside the black community, where casting directors often considered him, as a light-skinned black, unable to portray a black person on screen." - Mixed Race Hollywood, Mary Beltrán, 2008
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Ha,ha,ha: A British Albino as expert on Black phenotypes - what a fool.
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Malibudisul great smart post of the list of all the world ancient historian from wikipedia.We can look for different world historians( European, Morocan, Chinese, Turk, Indian) books and what they say about black people and other subject.Excellent reference.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Mike were the Crusades religious wars or racial wars? I thought it was a Christian vs Muslim thing?
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
would these image of the white killing blacks are the images of genocide?? The first image represent the image that black european think of whites. Blacks considered whites like wild men.
only a theory I think not because white is a cross on the helmet ______________________________
Mena I can't found full ancient text of ancient historians free in internet. our research have that exit of internet here we not have material enough The material here is filtered by whites We have set up a research institute. something. Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
In 1400 white invaded the south of germany and killed blacks????
In official historiography this episode was named like???
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: "Blessed Charlemagne in war against the Moors"
malibudusul - This is just another attempt by the degenerate lying, fake artifact creating, picture Whiting, Albinos to fool ignorant Black people.
Please note that the soldiers in the fort are wearing the exact "SAME" uniform as those approaching on Horseback. They are BOTH Europeans and are both wearing "CHAIN-MAIL".
Also note that the Fort "GATE" has been lifted to allow those coming "ENTRY" into the fort.
Also note that there is a Moor being held prisoner in a cell below.
Finally, look carefully at the White faces on Horseback. Don't they look exactly like the Black faces in the fort, except that the "DARK PAINT" has been removed?
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Wow! Mike! Very Good! but does the black man is arrested? I'll try to find the full image
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
The man in the cell wears the Filet (headband) of a Moor, but is also wearing the chainmail of a European, suggesting that he may have been imprisoned for being a spy. Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Look The shield in the last white soldier in the left The Shield have the symbol of the Holy Roman Empire
Look the Eagle! Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
malibudusul - Charlemagne was the first king of the Holy Roman Empire.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Sure! So many stories that I forget. In red shield of black man have a lion? Would a rasta?
malibudusul - I'm sure that everyone is tired of looking at Albino fakes and modifications. I know that I am, there are millions of them, and probably millions more to come. Soon or later the entire world will have to raise up and say "Enough"!
In the meantime why don't you check this guy out.
Mihai Viteazul (Michael the Brave) by Mişu Popp (1827—1892) was a Romanian painter and muralist.
I have found that when modern Albinos do paintings of past kings, and the make them "Dark" that means that he was a Black king. It's probably subconscious, not all Albinos are totally degenerate and as comfortable with the "Lie" as Lioness and Doxie.
Michael the Brave (1558 – August 9, 1601) was the Prince of Wallachia (1593–1601), of Transylvania (1599–1600), and of Moldavia (1600). He ruled all three principalities in a personal union for a short period of time.
During his reign, which coincided with the Long War, these three principalities forming the territory of present-day Romania and the Republic of Moldova were ruled for the first time by a single Romanian leader, although the personal union lasted for less than six months. He is regarded as one of Romania's greatest national heroes.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
is difficult to research this topic on the net. The entire information is already filtered.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
For all the images, for me is confirmed that black ruled holy roman in 14th, 15th and 16th century
"DATE : 1400"
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Malidibusul great picture as usual.Picture of black Charlemagne and his soldier attacking or visiting a Christian castle with black Christian soldier and a Moorish mercenary military commander with a white bandata on his head.Charlemagne soldier were whitened bright white and the opening on Charlemagne helmet was paint so you cant see is black face.
One of your picture show a black European king being crown by its soldier that king is falsely represented as a Moors.the second image in the same picture is a hooded Moorish king surrounded by hooded member of his court.Today king of Morocco and his entourage wear hooded robe.
Mike the Moors alway wear their chainmail armor under their robe.They have beautiful ornate sword with islamic design and have a leather shield in the form of M.
True Malidibusul most of the books of the ancient writers are filtered and are not available to the public for free.MIT university had make available online hundred of thousands of documents only available to the elite for a fee.Mega millionaire Redd it founder the late Aron Scwarz was allowed by MIT to read some of these document for a price. A Scwartz violated MIT rule by downloading unauthorise document, MIT and the justice depatment wanted to send Scwarz to prison for 30 years.Depressed Aron Schwarz commited suicide.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by mena7: Mike the Moors alway wear their chainmail armor under their robe.
What do you have to support your claim?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by mena7: [QB] Malidibusul great picture as usual.Picture of black Charlemagne and his soldier attacking or visiting a Christian castle with black Christian soldier and a Moorish mercenary military commander with a white bandata on his head.Charlemagne soldier were whitened bright white and the opening on Charlemagne helmet was paint so you cant see is black face.
what's hidden under the helmet:
Charlemagne, Karlstein castle
^^^^ the true Black Germanic king Charlemagne of the Franks
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
keep in mind in medieval times artists were often painting historical scenes long after the event happened, sometimes hundreds of years. They also didn't always have good information like encyclopedia or the internet to make things look accurate.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: [QB] For all the images, for me is confirmed that black ruled holy roman in 14th, 15th and 16th century
"DATE : 1400"
this confirms Christainization of Moors, Reconquista
The Moor is bowing down with hands praying to the white Christian
do you not have eyes?
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Mike you are the one who is a degenerate & a liar you stupid Kill Whitey, White people genocidist, White people hating, Black racist SOB. You & your kill Whitey ilk are the ones lying & trying to deny my people of our history, our heritage, our identities, our ancestors, our homeland. You are just mad because I won't allow you to do so uncontested. You are mad because I will not allow you to leave our White youth knowing not who they are, where they came from, who their ancestors were, thinking that they have no history, have no heritage, have no identity, & no homeland to call their own, & have them thinking they have nothing to be proud of as a people. Not happening not on this White girl's watch Black racist POS MFer's. This statement goes for Jantakillwhitey too.
Posted by jantavanta (Member # 20328) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by jantavanta: Africans are waking up from the sleep-inducing educational curriculum written by White colonial masters for Black children.
I don't know if that's a good thing, or a bad thing. Please follow my thinking for a moment:
True history makes it clear that at some point, the new Albino arrivals from Central Asia (Germanics/Slavs) convinced themselves that they were the victims of Black prejudice and oppression. Accordingly they convinced themselves that no atrocity would be too great in order to free themselves from that situation. (Similar to the Khazar attitude in Palestine).
The result was Black genocide in Europe and the Americas, (the indigenous Blacks in the Americas were killed and replaced by Blacks under Albino control from Europe and Africa).
The problem is that knowledge like that is harmless at this level, where it is only discussed by denizens of internet forums like us.
But once it gains credibility, where ordinary people start thinking about it and asking questions; well then it's not harmless any more.
Such knowledge begs a response to what the Albinos did. Somehow I'm not comfortable having Africans considering what that response should be; (I once had an African suggest to me that I go to the U.N. to get money to teach true history in Africa (they're clueless).
Africans would likely put us back into an endless cycle of racial conquest and decline, we need to move beyond that. But that's not to say that we do not note what the Albinos did, of course we do, and we remember it as to what they are capable of, but still, we must move on. Accordingly, I say let's leave Africans as the last to know, I think the world will be safer that way.
We Africans already know that the Creator took the form of a Black Man and we know that Sanskrit originated from here and was the first language. We know Satsang, Service and Meditation and we know through the Living Perfect Master that we are the nucleus of creation. And we already knew that the current existence of human beings is post-Atlantean and Whites came about after the collapse of Atlantis.
Your research findings only validates we already knew. If you want an emancipation of the Black Race, the Diaspora will not succeed in limbo from Africa. Obama could become president of the U.S.because he was connected to Africa; he knew his grandfather's house in Kenya.
The problems in Europe took place because of the disconnection of the Black Europeans from Africa, resulting in an emphasis on Religion, rather than Spirituality. Hebrewism, Christianity and Islam are political evolutions of the African Mystery System.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
jantavanta - Please show me how African Spiritualism has done Africans any good at all. Quite to the contrary, the evidence suggests that African Spiritualism or any other type of ".ism" has perpetually kept Africans in the Stone Age.
If you want examples of religious/societal success, you must look at the Indus Valley People, the Egyptians, the Sumerians, the Cretans/Greeks, and the Albino Protestants who have been able to take over the world while the Africans watched with their spiritual thumbs up their asses.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Nothing personal jantavanta, it's just that I think that it is counter productive to allow Africans, or Blacks in general, to create these "Feel Good about ourselves" nonsense myths. The facts are the facts, you can't get ahead trying to bullsh1t yourself about the facts, it's best to deal with them head-on.
BTW - Keep an eye on the Albinos, see what happens when their house of lies falls apart.
If you say yea, but look at what they accomplished with their lies. Well ya, but they have only been preeminent for 2-4 hundred years. Blacks who were excellent in every way, and did not need to lie, RULED FOR THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF YEARS!
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Mike be nice to Jantavanta he is one of the few African that support your theory of a black European population and their genocide by white European.Lamin is very smart politicaly but he is denying the obvious black European.
Javantana is right when he say the black Europeen disconection to the black in Africa cause their downfall.If I was a black European king and I saw black people are in the minority and white people are in majority I would have encourage black from Africa to immigrate to Europe.If it was the slave trade era I would have imported black African slave family to Europe teach them Euro culture to balance the white population.
I know the black Moors were genocided in Spain.In St Barthelemy day 50,000 Moors were killed.The genocide of black European may have happen.We know the European genocided the Native American who were brown people and brown people.More black scholar should investigate what happen to the black European.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: jantavanta - Please show me how African Spiritualism has done Africans any good at all. Quite to the contrary, the evidence suggests that African Spiritualism or any other type of ".ism" has perpetually kept Africans in the Stone Age.
If you want examples of religious/societal success, you must look at the Indus Valley People, the Egyptians, ....
Egyptians are Africans last time I checked..
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Mike & Jantakillwhitey, you are the ones who are lying you stupid Kill Whitey, White people genocidist, White people hating, Black racist SOB. You & your kill Whitey ilk are the ones lying & trying to deny my people of our history, our heritage, our identities, our ancestors, our homeland. You are just mad because I won't allow you to do so uncontested. You are mad because I will not allow you to leave our White youth knowing not who they are, where they came from, who their ancestors were, thinking that they have no history, have no heritage, have no identity, & no homeland to call their own, & have them thinking they have nothing to be proud of as a people. Not happening not on this White girl's watch Black racist POS MFer's.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Ralph
Go take your chill pills:
Enough already! Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
mena7 - I take no responsibility for those who believe or disbelieve what I teach. The material I present was accumulated for my own personal edification, after which, I decided to share what I had learned. I go after lamin because he is disingenuous, and probably a Albino mole. If it turns out that he is just stupid, then no harm will have been done.
The Albinos have trained your mind to think of the Black Holy Roman Empire as something separate from Black Africa, that is not the case. They intervened when the Albino Turks took over the Levant from the Black Arabs. And they intervened in North Africa on behalf of the ousted Bey of Tunis when the Turks started to take over North Africa. There is probably many other instances that I haven't found yet.
Lion - you know what I mean.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Ironcocksucker, go kill some Whitey's and STHU nobody was talking to you. I will NOT stop defending what rightfully belongs to my people, I will NOT stop coming up against you, I will NOT allow you to steal my people's history, our heritage, our identities, our homeland just because you are not happy with your own & want to get Whitey. The White youth SHALL NOT be denied of their home, their identity, their heritage, their ancestors, their pride.
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: giant wildmen and moors are used in mythological tapestrys along with unicorns and dragons
Not true its not a Fantasy the tapestry actually depicts negro races defending their territorry.
from invading Whites
check out this part of the tapestry is shows a WHITE FEMALE living in CAVES with animals.
These so called wild peeople look just like modern day WHITES.
You mentioned Dragons well they did exist another name for dragon is Dinosaur dinosaur bones have been talked about by the ancients fro centeries and found throughout Europe.
now I will show more artifacts depicting Black Hebrews on a Hungarian crown
CROWN OF HUNGARY
The Holy Crown of Hungary (Hungarian: Magyar Szent Korona, German: Stephanskrone, Croatian: Kruna svetoga Stjepana, Latin: Sacra Corona), also known as the Crown of Saint Stephen, was the coronation crown used by the Kingdom of Hungary for most of its existence. The Crown was bound to the Lands of the Crown of Saint Stephen, (sometimes the Sacra Corona meant the Land, the Carpathian Basin, but it also meant the coronation body, too). No king of Hungary was regarded as having been truly legitimate without being crowned with it. In the history of Hungary, more than fifty kings were crowned with it (the two kings who were not so crowned were John II Sigismund and Joseph II)
See lioness those patriarchs on the crown are negroe Hebrews.
I have been studying the history of the hebrew migration into Europe for years and my conclusion is that those so called moors and the Eastern european coats of arms represent black hebrews that spread chritianity world wide and Ruled Europe for 1000 yrs
See lioness that tapestry wild men and the moors/HEBREWs depicts real life so called moors/Hebrews defending their territory from invading Turkish WHITEs from The East
Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
My weird theory(not fact) if the tapestry was meant to represent an actual event or people I am a go with a family of Bigfoot/feet??? AKA Sasquatch in some areas the ambonable snow man in the Himalays..just saying!!! Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
This is what TRUTH HITMAN was talking about, don't know why the pictures weren't posted.
Holy Crown of Hungary
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
HITMAN - The story about the crown may not be true, I can not find a picture of a Hungarian king with it.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Damn, Mike! I remember I told you to watch a video you did not see was the same author of the video that you copied this image. had clearly Negroid people in a boat was amazing were warrior and a king. Unfortunately the channel has been removed from youtube. sad
I had an idea It may be wrong but I'll say. Protestants were whites who hated black Catholics This explains why Protestants were against images. Imagine a Europe replete with images of black saints then the white Protestant arise and against the use of images.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^ malibudusul - That seems to be along the lines of what happened. Though I still haven't figured how the Western Catholic church was taken over and brought into the fold of the Albinos so completely (now it's just another repository for Albino lies). Or why the Eastern Catholic Albinos chose to maintain Black icons - albeit with exclusively Albino-like features - conscience maybe?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
So why was it that the Catholics went to war with the Moors?
What was the reason? What were the Crusades about?
And why was it that that the Catholic King Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor was the first to granted licenses to transport African slaves to the new world.? i licences which he granted to his trusted and favorite courtiers
And was it that the Spanish Inquisition persecutions and torture were carried out by Catholics?
And why was it that the Conquerers of Central America were Catholics?
I'll tell you why
house Negroism at it's finest,
now carry on.....
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Martin Luther was an catholic monk, priest. maybe white Protestants had dominated the Catholic Church
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Martin Luther described Spain as a country of “faithless Jews and baptized Moors”, while the bitterly anti-Spanish Pope Paul IV referred to Spaniards in 1555 as the heretical “spawn of Jews and Moors.” In the course of ..
Martin Luther (1483–1546), a German Reformation leader, had a significant influence on German antisemitism by his harsh anti-Jewish statements and writings.
I need to say anything? Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
talk does not compare to action.
Look at the history of the Crusades Look at the Muslim conquest of Spain Look at the Expulsion of the Moors Look at The Portugese and Spainish who started the Transalantic Slave trade given premission by the Catholic Holy Romans Look at the Spanish Conquistadors bringing back Central American gold to the Holt Roman Emperor Do some remarks in a book compare to years of war, slavery and occupation?
The other otpion is keep the blindfold on and drink more of Mike's Kool Aid
It's sweeter
^^^ This was made a bout a 1000 year after St. Maurice's death.
What does it represent?
It represents Conversion to a Catholic church lead by white people.
St Maurice was the leader of an army who was helping Roman Emperor Maximillon a man who had bloody wars with the berbers, the Gauls and others. But Maurice the end he defied Maximillion and died for Christianity.
Nobody here looks at history in context. They just take out little bits an pieces and weave new stories, it's not scholarship. It's cutting out only the bits you like with a scissor
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
France and germany in 12th, 13th people were very black , flat nose, thick lips like people like say "true black"
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
From Director Neil Jordan comes the tales and stories of the dastardly Italian Borgia dynasty, one of the most infamous families of the Renaissance period (14-16th centuries) in Italy. History has accused them of many different crimes, including adultery, simony, theft, rape, bribery, incest, poison and murder, for which they have been condemned. This is a family whose code was certainly to take no prisoners.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: So why was it that the Catholics went to war with the Moors?
What was the reason? What were the Crusades about?
And why was it that that the Catholic King Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor was the first to granted licenses to transport African slaves to the new world.? i licences which he granted to his trusted and favorite courtiers
And was it that the Spanish Inquisition persecutions and torture were carried out by Catholics?
And why was it that the Conquerers of Central America were Catholics?
I'll tell you why house Negroism at it's finest, now carry on.....
Damn you're stupid:
So Blacks never invaded the territory of other Blacks eh?
As I have said many times, the crusades were about Albino Turks usurping and taking over from the Black Arabs.
Idiot: slavery was always about Blacks enslaving others, including other Blacks. P.S. pass that on to the Negroes too please. You have their minds so fuched-up that the concept is difficult for them to understand.
Charles V was very apprehensive about what was going on in the Americas as a personal matter. But Blacks can be greedy for conquest too, only not as degenerate as Albinos. Afterward control of the Americas passed to Spain and Portugal exclusively, which came under the control of Albinos, that is when the great atrocities happened.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
LOL Mike according to you the whole planet is the territory of Blacks, everyone was Black (particularly prominent figures) except those who were bad (unless they happen to be royalty)or who never really accomplished anything, Whites, Asians, and other non-White non-Blacks just suddenly appeared out of nowhere & have no history, no heritage, no identities, no ancestors, no homeland to call their own ROTFLMBO. BTW, kill Whitey boy, how many times must you be told TURKS ARE NOT White, they are a mix-race people (Mongol & White to be exact).
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: France and germany in 12th, 13th people were very black , flat nose, thick lips like people like say "true black"
There were some blacks there then but there is no evidence that there were anything larger than a very small minority in France or Germany at the time.
Think I'm wrong? produce some evidence.
^^^ here, yes. an authentic medieval European illustration with black people in it. Jump for joy were part of old cracker land
Do you even know what the scene is about or do you just look at pictures and then skip to new pictures endlessly?
So if there's some black people here there are also white people.
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: France and germany in 12th, 13th people were very black , flat nose, thick lips like people like say "true black"
So the white people in the painting are actually black with "flat noses" and "big lips" ????? what are they doing there? I thought all the nobles were black. There were no regular blacks only nobles who held thir noses in the air and collected taxes form the peasants and ate rack of lamb. Does anybody really believe these theories ir it just an entertaining game?
You cannot tell the demographics of a country's population but looking at a few paintings.
suppose you found 50 paintings like this? How would that compare to a majority white population in medieval France or Germany that was in the hundreds of thousands?
And if you are look at these paintings what about the rest of your own source? What ifsomebody looks at the rest of the book at your own link:
^^^^ no never look at the context, the rest of the source only the part that allows your imagination to run wild.
Look at this Gothic book, your link, Les Très Riches Heures du Duc de Berry go through each page, This is "black France" ? They all have dark skin and flat noses? What? the paintings are fake? Well then what are a few blacks doing in there? Did they forget to fake some?of the paintings? Did they forget to paint some white?
Or were blacks a small minority in France at the time blacks in it? You cannot do demographics by paintings. But even if you did how about looking at every painting by your favorite European painter. What is the proportion of blacks to white in all their paintings you can find, total?
Here's another page: What are white people doing there? I thought it was Black France. Oh this is a fake one but they forgot and left a couple of real ones? stop it already
How come you see some obvioulsly black people, darl black people sometimes in these illustrations and paintings but they don't have names or titles? It's a conspiracy? Then why are they there at all for us to go to white owned archives and look at?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
As I have said many times, the crusades were about Albino Turks usurping and taking over from the Black Arabs.
And I have always said you are retarded
Posted by Bonampak420 (Member # 20156) on :
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: giant wildmen and moors are used in mythological tapestrys along with unicorns and dragons
Not true its not a Fantasy the tapestry actually depicts negro races defending their territorry.
from invading Whites
check out this part of the tapestry is shows a WHITE FEMALE living in CAVES with animals.
WILD MAN and THE MOORS 1
These so called wild peeople look just like modern day WHITES.
This is a painting of Mary and Jesus, with st. Martin of Tours and st. Bernardin of Sienne at their feet. Church of st. Michel Menton France.
So how come st. Martin is a White guy here???
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: [qb]
This is a painting of Mary and Jesus, with st. Martin of Tours and st. Bernardin of Sienne at their feet. Church of st. Michel Menton France.
So how come st. Martin is a White guy here???
Assuming the identities of the men in these painting is as listed: St. Martin of Tours died in 397 AD. Above he is depicted somewhat racially ambiguously lathough he has simialr light brown skin tone as the depiction of st. Bernardin who died in 1444 AD.
The above painting was made over a thousand years after St, Martin's death and there are older paintings of St Marin, unlikely any are that close to being made near the period of his lifetime.
Here is an older painting
Master Petrus, Saint Martin Sharing his Cloak with a Beggar, 1510-1520
so no claims should be made about any of these paintings as being true to how the real person might have looked considering that they were made hundreds of years after the person died. Obviously the larger painting was probably painted by a dark skinned Turk who referred to the older white versions of St, Martin and decided to mulattoized him and St. Bernardin's skin color to be more similar to his own semi muurish hue
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
This is like a muslin warrior look like
European dress
Muslim? Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
What is the real meaning of Moor? Means Muslim or black?
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
The word Moors mean black it come from the Greek word Mauros for black. This is not a muslim word long before Islam in classical time there was a country name Mauritania in NW Africa were Moroco and Algeria is currently located.
The hooded Robe is not European but Morocan.The King of Morocco and his courtier still wear the hooded robe on special occasion.Nice picture of Moors executing criminal.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: This is like a muslin warrior look like
European dress
Muslim?
^^^^ Saracens kill prisoners Christians, a 14th-century miniature
do you ever post text?
Saracen was a term for Muslims widely used in Europe during the later medieval era. The term's meaning evolved during its history. In the early centuries AD in Greek and Latin it referred to a people who lived in desert areas in and near the Roman province of Arabia, and who were specifically distinguished from Arabs.In Europe during the Early Medieval era, the term began to be used to describe Arab tribes as well.[3] By the 12th century, Saracen had become synonymous with Muslim in Medieval Latin literature. This expansion of the meaning had begun centuries earlier among the Byzantine Greeks, as evidenced in Byzantine Greek documents from the 8th century.
Usage of the term in the Latin West changed as the Middle Ages progressed, but its connotation remained negative and its exact definition continued to be unclear. In an 8th century polemical work, John of Damascus criticized the Saracens as followers of a false prophet and "forerunner[s] to the Antichrist." Two centuries later, Europeans perceived Saracens as poor, uneducated idolaters belonging to a group wholly separate from the Arabs who brought Aristotle to the Latin West and the Moors and Berbers fighting Christians in Spain; someone who got all of his or her information on Islam from medieval sources would not conclude the three groups represented one continuous culture.
By the 12th century, Medieval Europeans had more specific conceptions of Islam and "Saracen" had become an ethnic and religious marker.In some Medieval literature Saracens—that is, Muslims—are black-skinned, while Christians are fair-skinned. An example is in The King of Tars, a medieval romance.The Song of Roland, an Old French 11th-century heroic poem, takes the association of black skin with Saracens a step further by making it their only exotic feature.
The opera of the puppets and the Sicilian tradition of cantastorî (singers of tales) are rooted in the Provençal troubadour tradition in Sicily during the reign of Frederick II, Holy Roman Emperor, in the first half of the 13th century. A great place to see this marionette art is the puppet theatres of Palermo, Sicily
Many of the characters portrayed in the Opera dei Pupi come straight from the history of Southern Italy. Heroes of the Norman Conquest such as Roger (Ruggiero) and Tancred (Tancredi) do battle with the Saracens or vie for a maiden's hand. Other characters like Godfrey (Goffredo) and Reynald (Rinaldo) are fictional characters whose origins are based upon real-life participants in the Crusades. The most popular character is arguably Orlando, the Sicilian version of Charlemagne's (Carlo Magno) nephew Roland and the most common marionette sold in gift shops.
The villains of the Opera dei Pupi are more fanciful and besides the Saracens who once ruled Sicily, are based more in legend than in fact. Agricane is one such villain who is identified as the King of Mongolia and fights Orlando for the love of a princess. Another foe of the hero Orlando is Alcina, a sorceress. Argante is a powerful Saracen warrior that battles Tancredi in a fight to the death at the walls of Jerusalem. Whether good or evil, the characters and their deeds are all much larger than life, the equivalent to today's fictional super heroes.
The performances that include Orlando and Carlo Magno are derived from the famous Song of Roland (Chanson de Roland)
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
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Battle of Ager Sanguinis: Turks Defeat Crusaders on the “Field of Blood”
By the year 1100, a total of four Crusader states were carved out of lands that had been under Muslim control for over 450 years. They were: the Kingdom of Jerusalem; the County of Tripoli; the County of Edessa, and the Principality of Antioch. Nearby was the Kingdom of Lesser Armenia, which was sometimes allied with the Crusaders, but more often tried to ignore them. Surrounding all these Frankish states were the various Muslim states, which were constantly at war with each other. These intra-Muslim conflicts were mainly responsible for the fact that the Crusader kingdoms lasted as long as they did.
[The Muslims referred to all Crusaders generally as "Franks." It was basically their shorthand for "Western Christians." It did not matter to them from where the Crusaders came, whether France, England, Germany, Flanders, Normandy, or southern Italy. They were collectively Franks.]
Ilghazi ibn Artuq (died November 8, 1122) was the Turkish Artukid ruler of Mardin from 1107 to 1122. His father Artuk was the founder of the Artukid dynasty, and had been appointed governor of Jerusalem by the Seljuq emir Tutush. In 1119 Ilghazi defeated and killed Roger at the Battle of Ager Sanguinis; Ibn al-Qalanisi describes the victory as "one of the finest of victories, and such plenitude of divine aid was never granted to Islam in all its past ages." The Antiochene towns of Atharib, Zerdana, Sarmin, Ma'arrat al-Numan and Kafr Tab fell to his army. "Il Ghazi, however, was unable to extract full profit from his victory. His prolonged drunkenness deprived his army of leadership, and left the Turkmens free to ... scatter after plunder.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: What is the real meaning of Moor? Means Muslim or black?
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Moor
"North African, Berber," late 14c., from Old French More, from Medieval Latin Morus, from Latin Maurus "inhabitant of Mauritania" (northwest Africa, a region now corresponding to northern Algeria and Morocco), from Greek Mauros, perhaps a native name, or else cognate with mauros "black" (but this adjective only appears in late Greek and may as well be from the people's name as the reverse). Being a dark people in relation to Europeans, their name in the Middle Ages was a synonym for "Negro;" later (16c.-17c.) used indiscriminately of Muslims (Persians, Arabs, etc.) but especially those in India.
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The term "Moor" was not a term those peoples called themselves.
Originally the term was used by Europeans to mean various Muslims if North Africa, like black Africans, Arabs and Berbers (berbers are a mix of ethnicities)
Later on Euroepans changed the menaing meaning to mean any black person form Africa
In the beginning it meant black and brown Muslim invaders from North Africa
Later it changed to mean dark black Africans but Islam was no longer an important part of the definition. This is more like how the Germans used it. They were not invaded by the Muslims. They used generic black people with no names in their heraldry. They called them "Moors" yet they were often Christian converts and Ethiopians who were not from North Africa
Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
Lioness
quote:The term "Moor" was not a term those peoples called themselves. Originally the term was used by Europeans to mean various Muslims if North Africa, like black Africans, Arabs and Berbers (berbers are a mix of ethnicities) Later on Euroepans changed the menaing meaning to mean any black person form Africa In the beginning it meant black and brown Muslim invaders from North Africa Later it changed to mean dark black Africans but Islam was no longer an important part of the definition. This is more like how the Germans used it. They were not invaded by the Muslims. They used generic black people with no names in their heraldry. They called them "Moors" yet they were often Christian converts and Ethiopians who were not from North Africa
No the term Moor was used long before the Islamic era it began with the Greeks "μαυρο" or "mavro" which literally means "black, blackened or charred" and has long been used to describe black or very dark things such as, "Mavri Thalassa" which refers to the Black Sea or "mavri spilia" which means "black cave." Ancient Greeks used the term to describe the complexion of Africans and (even today, some Greeks use "mavro" to refer to Africans, although in a pejorative manner) http://www.taneter.org/moors.html WIKI also agree with the above. The Romans made use of the term borrowed from the Greeks. Maurus" and the plural form is "Mauri," specifically used by ancient Romans in reference to Black Africans. Procopius of Caesarea (500-565 AD), a Byzantine scholar who wrote in Greek, said in his History of the Wars, "beyond that there are men not black-skinned like the Moors. Juvenal, Satire VI, lines 596 – 600
“One of them, with wooly hair, like a Moor, seems to be the son of Santra, the cook. The second, with a flat nose and thick lips, is the image of Pannicus, the wrestler . . . of the two daughters, one is black . . . and belongs to Crotus, the flute player.”
These are all pre-islamic references to Moors as Black and African,but you are correct that they generally did not refer to themselves as Moors,but by their ethnic names, It is also not a waste of time to compile a list of the various names given to Black folks,by the Greeks and Romans. Moor=Black Nigritae/Niger/Nigerian/Negro=Black Ethiop=Black. I am sure there more could be added It was late in the day that folks of liter complexion was added to make Moors more universal,thus Black Moor,Twanny Moor and even White Moors came into being under a largely Islamic umbrella.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: [QB] Lioness
quote:The term "Moor" was not a term those peoples called themselves. Originally the term was used by Europeans to mean various Muslims if North Africa, like black Africans, Arabs and Berbers (berbers are a mix of ethnicities) Later on Euroepans changed the menaing meaning to mean any black person form Africa In the beginning it meant black and brown Muslim invaders from North Africa Later it changed to mean dark black Africans but Islam was no longer an important part of the definition. This is more like how the Germans used it. They were not invaded by the Muslims. They used generic black people with no names in their heraldry. They called them "Moors" yet they were often Christian converts and Ethiopians who were not from North Africa
No the term Moor was used long before the Islamic era it began with the Greeks "μαυρο" or "mavro" which literally means "black, blackened or charred" and has long been used to describe black or very dark things such as, "Mavri Thalassa"
mavri and maurus etc are different words we had been discussing the crusades or almoravid periods
the Numidans were (202 BC – 46 BC) ancient Mauretania ( Roman province not the same territoty as modern day Mauritania) (3rd ce BC)
Juba II Numidian king of Mauretania 52/50 BC – AD 23
hair not wooly
The region had also been influenced by the Phoenicians
After the Vandals, Greeks and Romans and finally the Arabs you cannot say that the North African Muslims who conquered Spain in the 8th c., called Moors were the Numidians even though the Numidians sometimes get called by writers "Moors"
We are talking about when Europeans spelled the word Moor or Moros, using the letter "o" It is a loosely applied the people themselves never called themselves.
And the way it was used in places like Germany was fnot specific to meaning even Almoravid descendants of North Africa much less specific to Numdians/ancient Mauretanians
At that time, in the European medieval period they applied the term to any dark skinned African regardless of if they wer form North Africa or another place in Africa
Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
Lioness
quote: Juba II Numidian king of Mauretania 52/50 BC – AD 23 hair not wooly
The region had also been influenced by the Phoenicians
After the Vandals, Greeks and Romans and finally the Arabs you cannot say that the North African Muslims who conquered Spain in the 8th c., called Moors were the Numidians even though the Numidians sometimes get called by writers "Moors"
We are talking about when Europeans spelled the word Moor or Moros, using the letter "o" It is a loosely applied the people themselves never called themselves.
And the way it was used in places like Germany was far from meaning even Almoravid descendants of North Africa.
At that time, in the European medieval period they applied the term to any dark skinned African regardless of if they wer form North Africa or another place in Africa
Hair wooly,and again Juvenal, Satire VI, lines 596 – 600 “One of them, with wooly hair, like a Moor, seems to be the son of Santra, the cook. The second, with a flat nose and thick lips, is the image of Pannicus, the wrestler . . . of the two daughters, one is black . . . and belongs to Crotus, the flute player.” Did all coastal Africans have wooly hair??? servey sayz No! did they have enough wooly haired folks among them to be sterotyped as such..yees And the rules of ethomology applies,in the same way that Ethiop/Nigritae/Niger/Nigerian/Negro applies.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^^Teach the Dunce!
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^ actually what I have said, that Europeans after the Moors of Spain had been defeated started call and black Africa a Moor fits your philosophy that all black people today should call themselves what some Europeans called them ,"Moors".
I think that is a confusing defintion. I think it should be applied specifically to the Almoravids, the related tribes the Lamtuna and the Gudala, Sanhaja Berbers, led by Moroccans
It's not clear if derived primarily from the ancient Numidians so I think it is better not to call the Numidians "Moors". Many of the slaves who wound up in small numbers in medieval Europe were Ethiopians, had no relation to the Almoravids who were on the West North Coast
When you look at the book "golden Age of The Moors" he is not using the term "Moor" to mean "any black African" He's atlking about the people who invaded Iberia
But throughout history you will see the term applied to all sorts of people including black Africans, Arabs, berbers, Ethiopians or any African
"teach lioness, teach" Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
Lioness
quote:actually what I have said, that Europeans after the Moors of Spain had been defeated started call and black Africa a Moor fits your philosophy that all black people today hhould call themselves what Euroepans called them ,"Moors". I think that is a confusing defintion. I think it should be applied specifically to the Almoravids, the related tribes the Lamtuna and the Gudala, Sanhaja Berbers, led by Moroccans It's not clear if derived primarily ffrom the ancient Numidians so I think it is better not to call the Numidians "Moors" When you look at the book "golden Age of The Moors" he is not using the term "Moor" to mean "any black African" He's atlking about the people who invaded Iberia But throughout history you will see the term applied to all sorts of people including black Africans, Arabs, berbers o
We know that Moors before the Islamic era were primarily Northwest Africans,as per the Romans, they like the Greeks had other names for Blacks in other parts of Africa but sometimes used these names interchangeably,St Maurice was a Moor despite him being an Egyptian and his legend dates back to the 3rd century A.d long before there was any such thing as an Islamic conquest and futher more during the Islamic era Black/Moor/Ethiop/and Negro were interchangable. In the ‘Chanson of Roland’ (Song of Roland) written after the Moors invaded France in 718 A.D., the invaders are described (verses 145 and 146) as “blacker than ink with large noses and ears” and with “nothing white except the teeth.” the Moorish army was 50,000 strong and led by Marganice, Emperor of Ethiopia and Carthage. Their most valiant figure is Abisme (that is, Abyssinian), who (verse 126) is described as “black as melted pitch. Off-course Ethiopia could no way be involved in any conquest of Iberia as they were not Muslims,this romance was written in 1140 or 1170 well before the down fall of the Moors.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Muuritania aka Mauritania
Muuroco aka Morocco
Muuritius aka Mauritius
Comuuro aka Comoro
Muurish Countries All in Africa!
Show me one Muurish country anywhere else...
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Lioness
quote:actually what I have said, that Europeans after the Moors of Spain had been defeated started call and black Africa a Moor fits your philosophy that all black people today hhould call themselves what Euroepans called them ,"Moors". I think that is a confusing defintion. I think it should be applied specifically to the Almoravids, the related tribes the Lamtuna and the Gudala, Sanhaja Berbers, led by Moroccans It's not clear if derived primarily ffrom the ancient Numidians so I think it is better not to call the Numidians "Moors" When you look at the book "golden Age of The Moors" he is not using the term "Moor" to mean "any black African" He's atlking about the people who invaded Iberia But throughout history you will see the term applied to all sorts of people including black Africans, Arabs, berbers o
We know that Moors before the Islamic era were primarily Northwest Africans,as per the Romans, they like the Greeks had other names for Blacks in other parts of Africa but sometimes used these names interchangeably,St Maurice was a Moor despite him being an Egyptian and his legend dates back to the 3rd century A.d long before there was any such thing as an Islamic conquest and futher more during the Islamic era Black/Moor/Ethiop/and Negro were interchangable. In the ‘Chanson of Roland’ (Song of Roland) written after the Moors invaded France in 718 A.D., the invaders are described (verses 145 and 146) as “blacker than ink with large noses and ears” and with “nothing white except the teeth.” the Moorish army was 50,000 strong and led by Marganice, Emperor of Ethiopia and Carthage. Their most valiant figure is Abisme (that is, Abyssinian), who (verse 126) is described as “black as melted pitch. Off-course Ethiopia could no way be involved in any conquest of Iberia as they were not Muslims,this romance was written in 1140 or 1170 well before the down fall of the Moors.
Was St. Maurice pitch black? The earliest depiction of of him, the statue with the armour in the Madenburg Cathedral was made over 1000 years after his death.
Moor (n.) "North African, Berber," late 14c., from Old French More, from Medieval Latin Morus, from Latin Maurus "inhabitant of Mauritania" (northwest Africa, a region now corresponding to northern Algeria and Morocco), from Greek Mauros, perhaps a native name, or else cognate with mauros "black" (but this adjective only appears in late Greek and may as well be from the people's name as the reverse). Being a dark people in relation to Europeans, their name in the Middle Ages was a synonym for "Negro;" later (16c.-17c.) used indiscriminately of Muslims (Persians, Arabs, etc.) but especially those in India.
If one group of Moor was described as "pitch black" that doesn't mean all groups of Moors were described as "pitch black" or that stereotyping was not going on? We can look at other examples of North Africans, the Egyptians. In Egyptian art Egyptians are not portrayed as pitch black. They are often portrayed as medium to darkbrown often with reddish tint, sometimes lighter yellowish. Only Osiris and art of Pharoahs personifiying Osiris in tombs are portrayed as pitch black.
Now it doesn't really matter if they were pitch black or reddish brown when I ask you:
were the ancient Egyptians Moors?
Do you know for certain St. Maurice was Egyptian or is that just legend? If he was and if he was called a Moor, then based off that can we now say generally that ancient writers called the Egyptians "Moors" ?
Shaka Zulu was a Moor?
Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
Lioness
quote:Was St. Maurice pitch black? The earliest depiction of of him, the statue with the armour in the Madenburg Cathedral was made over 1000 years after his death. ________________________________________________________ Moor (n.) "North African, Berber," late 14c., from Old French More, from Medieval Latin Morus, from Latin Maurus "inhabitant of Mauritania" (northwest Africa, a region now corresponding to northern Algeria and Morocco), from Greek Mauros, perhaps a native name, or else cognate with mauros "black" (but this adjective only appears in late Greek and may as well be from the people's name as the reverse). Being a dark people in relation to Europeans, their name in the Middle Ages was a synonym for "Negro;" later (16c.-17c.) used indiscriminately of Muslims (Persians, Arabs, etc.) but especially those in India. _____________________________________________________ If one group of Moor was described as "pitch black" that doesn't mean all groups of Moors were described as "pitch black" or that stereotyping was not going on? We can look at other examples of North Africans, the Egyptians. In Egyptian art Egyptians are not portrayed as pitch black. They are often portrayed as medium to darkbrown often with reddish tint, sometimes lighter yellowish. Only Osiris and art of Pharoahs personifiying Osiris in tombs are portrayed as pitch black. Now it doesn't really matter if they were pitch black or reddish brown when I ask you: were the ancient Egyptians Moors? Do you know for certain St. Maurice was Egyptian or is that just legend? If he was and if he was called a Moor, then based off that can we now say generally that ancient writers called the Egyptians "Moors" ? Shaka Zulu was a Moor?
If that Egyptian was a turban wearing black who showed up in Iberia the name would apply ditto for Shaka..I said this before and I'll say it again all Blacks were Moors but all moors were not actually Black whats so hard to understand about that.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Because in ancient Greek, Mauros was the name of the colour for black
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
The Magi founding a city on the hill of Vaus. Woodcut from the Leben der Heiligen Drei Könige printed in Strasbourg in 1484 by Heinrich Knoblochtzer. 101 pages, 210 x 130 mm. Berlin, Staatsbibliothek Preussischer Kulturbesitz, Inc. 2221, Bl. d III v and Bl. d V v. Bildarchiv Preussischer Kulturbesitz.
quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: all Blacks were Moors but all moors were not actually Black whats so hard to understand about that. [/QB]
1) what distinguishes a black Moor from any black African?
2) ancient writers did not call people brown. Some languages at that time didn't even have a word for brown. Ancient European writers who applied these terms that people cherish were not going by modern American standards for "black" (of African descent, has an afro etc,) Thus both the men below would be "black" to ancient European writers
Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
English Adjectives Latin Adjectives colors colores black niger color blue caeruleus color brown fuscus color gray cineraceus color green viridis color orange luteus color purple violaceus color red ruber color white albus color fuscus color Lioness
quote:1) what distinguishes a black Moor from any black African? 2) ancient writers did not call people brown. Some languages at that time didn't even have a word for brown. Ancient European writers who applied these terms that people cherish were not going by modern American standards for "black" (of African descent, has an afro etc,) Thus both the men below would be "black" to ancient European writers
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: HITMAN - The story about the crown may not be true, I can not find a picture of a Hungarian king with it.
You probably will not see the crown worn. it was just ceremonial not always worn by the kings
BUT one thing is for sure the biblical characters on the crown are negroes they make sure that info is hidden.
THE HOLY CROWN ENAMEL PLATES
ST ANDREW
JACOB
ST PETER
ST PAUL
ST PHILIP
ST JANOS
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^^ Truth Hitman these guys look like they could be white
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^^^^ Truth Hitman these guys look like they could be white
WHAT WHITE GUYS ARE YOU BLIND?
Does this look like a WHITE MAN
LIONESS what about Jacob huh is he a white guy as well
Is HE a white guy lioness how about:
St Peter
Thats a brown skin Man a BLACK HEBREW not a KHAZAR Turk! LIONESS
THESE are the locations of HEBREW CATACOMBS in Rome and all over Europe Lioness
The Biblical patriarchs on the Hungarian crown represent these people.
Banquet scene in the Roman Catacombs 100 AD
THIS one is CALLED the GOOD Shepard
This represents Christ Peter and Mary
HEY lioness this is Map of Jewish Rome in the second century CE
1. the Via Nomentana near the Villa Torlonia, 2. the Via Labicana outside the Porta Maggiore, 3. the Via Appia Pignatelli (beyond the second milestone, closer to the city than the Christian catacombs), 4. the Via Appia (Via Cimarra), 5. the Via Ostiensis, at Monteverde
Those are just some of the catacombs in europe
and lioness have you noticed any white people yet
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
these Turks have simialr skin tone:
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
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Palestinian man.
Palestinian
Italian Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^^ all the above darker than this:
etc
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
The Jew in the catacomb of Rome look like black people with frizzy hair.Some even have big mouth, round nose and big cheekbones.They look like Dravidian.Lioness Those Turk look like Metis/Mulato from Brazil, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Mexico, South Spain, South Italy, Gypsy/Roma people.I think the original inhabitant of Anatolia were black people who mixed with white Seljuk and Ottoman Turks invaders.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Because in ancient Greek, Mauros was the name of the colour for black
Mauros means dark, not black.
Negroids don't have a monopoly on dark skin pigmentation. Many other races are dark.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Because in ancient Greek, Mauros was the name of the colour for black
Mauros means dark, not black.
Negroids don't have a monopoly on dark skin pigmentation. Many other races are dark.
Actually in the technical sense you are correct: all phenotypes display variation in pigmentation. So by that measure, the Albino method of categorizing the worlds people by color is inaccurate.
Therefore I suggest that we replace the racial categories of Black, White, and Yellow; with what is really the color difference; that is degree of Albinism. Then we could add shorthand like: Hair straight Blonde, Nose narrow, Eyes blue, which would be written as HbNnEb.
Thus we could categorize most northern European people as Pure-Albino HsbNnEb.
The sand Niggers in the middle east would be Mulatto HsbNmEbk, so forth and so on.
What do you think?
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ As I have repeated and shown to be accurate on multiple occasions, there is no real social reality of RACE. All that exists is people with melanin (Huemans) and those without (Albinos). The racial concept was introduced by the latter group who lack life defining melanin.
To amplify the symptoms of albinism, many whites/Jews have compounded their health problems out of ignorance by interbreeding. As the Rothschild exposures have shown, 1/3 of all Rothschild marriages were between first cousins. This explains the severe mental issues we observe in Whites/Jews.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ As I have repeated and shown to be accurate on multiple occasions, there is no real social reality of RACE. All that exists is people with melanin (Huemans) and those without (Albinos). The racial concept was introduced by the latter group who lack life defining melanin.
To amplify the symptoms of albinism, many whites/Jews have compounded their health problems out of ignorance by interbreeding. As the Rothschild exposures have shown, 1/3 of all Rothschild marriages were between first cousins. This explains the severe mental issues we observe in Whites/Jews.
Ya, what you say appears to be true. The earlier Rothschilds appear to have been rather robust people with SOME melanin. Whereas the modern ones appear to be pure Albino.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Narmer, come off it you Kill Whitey Black racist moron. Race is a reality, Jews are NOT White, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with two unrelated White people marrying each other & having children as White women were NOT made for Black men/other non White men, we were made for the White man. We are NOT Albinos you & your ilk only use it as a racist epithet towards us to degrade, demean, & dehumanize us out of your intolerable hatred towards us & desire to see us wiped out.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
"albino" is the white equivalent of nigger
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: "albino" is the white equivalent of nigger
Nigger is a noun in the English language. The word originated as a neutral term referring to black people, as a variation of the Spanish/Portuguese noun negro, a descendant of the Latin adjective Niger ("color black"). Often used slightingly, by the mid 20th century, particularly in the United States, its usage had become unambiguously pejorative, a common ethnic slur usually directed at people of Sub-Saharan African descent.
Albinism (from Latin albus, "white"; see extended etymology, also called achromia, achromasia, or achromatosis) is a congenital disorder characterized by the complete or partial absence of pigment in the skin, hair and eyes due to absence or defect of tyrosinase, a copper-containing enzyme involved in the production of melanin.
Albinism results from inheritance of recessive gene alleles and is known to affect all vertebrates, including humans. While an organism with complete absence of melanin is called an albino (pron.: /ælˈbaɪnoʊ/ American English, or /ælˈbiːnoʊ/ British English) an organism with only a diminished amount of melanin is described as Albinoid.
Actually when you strip away the bullsh1t, BOTH terms are accurate and appropriate.
Cass, being mindful of how much you like the ".oid" terms;
would you prefer that I call you a Albinoid? Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
Mike
What is that Lewis I is holding in his left hand?
Is it an ornament or, alive?
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
International banker lord Baron Jacob Rothschild.One of the richest and most powerful man in the world.Vizier of Queen Elizabeth II according to Grace Powers or Vizier to Pope Benedict XVI according to Phil Valentine.
According to the book Babylon Banksters by Joseph Farrell the Temple of the ancient world were the central bank that minted money.The international banker were the priest of the temple.International banking law in ancient time established gold as the most valuable currency of the Western world(Egypt, Babylonia, Persia, Greece, Rome) and established silver as the most valuable currency of the Eastern world(India, China, Japan).International bullion broker aka banker established in the West and the East play the role of money changer from East and West trade.We still have West and East trade today.
Egypt was the greatest gold producer of the Ancient World.The Bisharee mine in Nubia that use slave labor, prisoner labor and mercenary guard soldier in 50 bc was the greatest gold producer in ancient time.Egypt supply gold to India.Egypt and India were great trading partners in ancient times.
According to Roman constitution that become the Catholic Church constitution only the Byzantine empire could mint gold coins in medieval Europe.The European kingdoms could not mint their own coins they received their gold coins from the Basileus of the Eastern Roman Empire with the capital city of Byzantium. After The latin crusade of Western European kingdoms against the Byzantine Empire in the 13 cent the Western Europeen kingdoms were allowed to mint their gold coins.
According to Jordan Maxwell International trade and banking today are base on the Vatican maritime admiralty law.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^The Scepter and Orb (indicating mastery over the world) are ancient symbols of kingly power.
The globus cruciger (Latin, "cross-bearing orb") is an orb (lat. globus) topped (lat. gerere = to wear) with a cross (lat. crux), a Christian symbol of authority used throughout the Middle Ages and even today on coins, iconography and royal regalia. It symbolises Christ's (the cross) dominion over the world (the orb), literally held in the dominion of an earthly ruler (or sometimes celestial being such as an angel). When held by Christ himself, the subject is known in the iconography of Western art as Salvator Mundi ("Saviour of the World"). It is associated with the sceptre.
Negro boys and girls, do you detect a certain incongruity here???
Wasn't it ONLY after the voyages of Christopher Columbus that we discovered that the Earth was ROUND: i.e. an Orb??? Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^I have the sinking feeling that no one understands the importance of the question.
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: .
Palestinian man.
Palestinian
Italian
Linoness your pics are of people that come from Genetic admixture, the result of interbreeding between two or more previously isolated populations.
So the ancient populations were all BLACK lioness or East Indian. Turks and Palestinian people come from Admixture between the dark skinn east indians or persians and BLACK ARABS and the so called WHITE RACE.
According to Tacitus Lioness he knew that the HEBREWS looked like ETHIOPIAN PEOPLE this is what he said
. As I am about to relate the last days of a famous city, it seems appropriate to throw some light on its origin. Many, again, say that they were a race of Ethiopian origin, who in the time of king Cepheus were driven by fear and hatred of their neighbours to seek a new dwelling-place.
Did you read that he said that the hebrews looked like "they were a race of Ethiopian origin"
Also The Greek Historian Cherilus Account of what the HEBREW looked like:
Flavius Josephus Against Apion, Book 1, sections: 172-175". It is as follows:
"THEY DWELT IN THE SOLYMEAN MOUNTAINS, NEAR A BROAD LAKE; THEIR HEADS WERE SOOTY; THEY HAD ROUND RASURES ON THEM; THEIR HEADS AND FACES WERE LIKE NASTY HORSE HEADS ALSO, THAT HAD BEEN HARDENED IN THE SMOKE."
Now consider this, that "sooty" means Black and horse heads implies that the true nation of Israel, specifically the Jews, who were the only tribe in the land at that time. And when Cherilus referred to the Israelites as looking like "nasty horse heads" this implies that the true Jews had big noses and big lips. And, finally, the description of their heads as "hardened in the smoke" implies that they were Black. The word "hardened" implies that they were very Black.
So the Hebrews looked like Ethiopians and were darkskin or different shades of brown
Modern day Ethiopians
THESE PEOPLE are CALLED FALASHA HEBREWS according to History they are decendants of the people of the tribe of DAN One of the 12 tribes of Isreal
These people DO NOT look like admixture Turks or palestinians the Hebrews come in many different colors and looks none of these looks are WHITE People Now to prove the hebrew people and all dark skin races come in different shades of BROWN I will show pics of The 9 saints of Byzantine Empire:
The Nine Saints were a group of missionaries who were important in the initial growth of Christianity in what is now Ethiopia during the late 5th century. Their names were Abba Aftse, Abba Alef, Abba Aragawi, Abba Garima (Isaac, or Yeshaq), Abba Guba, Abba Liqanos, Abba Pantelewon, Abba Sehma, and Abba Yem’ata. Although frequently described as coming from Syria, only two or three actually came from that province; according to Paul B. Henze, others have been traced to Constantinople, Anatolia, and even Rome.
LOCATION OF THE CHURCH:
Nine Saints Abuna Yemata Guh cave church, Tigray
This is what was pictured in side of the Cave Church Tigray
This proves that the HEBREWS, these so called BLACK PEOPLE Ruled and controlled Byzantine Empire:
As you can see these so called negros are different shades of BROWN
So Lioness whats your comment now huh?
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^^^^ all the above darker than this:
etc
HEY LIONNESS the people calling themselves JEWS today are TURKISH KHAZARS NOT HEBREWS they adopted the hebrew ceremonial laws in the 8th century A.D They had no CULTURE of their own so they adopted our culture.
Have You read ARTHUR KOESTLERS "THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE"
Arthur Koestler in his very noteworthy book "THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE gives further detailed information about the KHAZARS and their conversion to the faith of the Israelites and how the majority of today's European Jews are direct descendants of them. The information contained in his book is backed up by scripture that show's the Jews are Gentiles, not natural -born Israelites
ARTHUR KOESTLER "THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE" page 17
Quote:
"The large majority of surviving Jews in the world are of Eastern European descent - and thus perhaps mainly of Khazar origin. If so, this would mean that their ancestors came not from the Jordan but from the volga, not from Canaan but from the Caucasus, once believed to be the cradle of the Aryan race; and that genetically they are more closely related to the Hun, uigur, and Magyar tribes than to the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob".
Arthur Koestler further explains why today's Jews call themselves Ashkenazi even though they are NOT the Physical seed of Togarmah. He shows that the KHAZARS took on the name of Ashkenaz because it was prophesied in Jeremiah 51:27 that Ashkenaz and their allies would conquer Babylon.
This book traces the history of the ancient Khazar Empire, a major but almost forgotten power in Eastern Europe, which in A.D. 740 converted to Judaism. Khazaria, a conglomerate of Aryan Turkic tribes, was finally wiped out by the forces of Genghis Han, but evidence indicates that the Khazars themselves migrated to Poland and formed the craddle of Western (Ashkenazim) Jewry... The Khazars' sway extended from the Black sea to the Caspian, from the Caucasus to the Volga, and they were instrumental in stopping the Muslim onslaught against Byzantium, the eastern jaw of the gigantic pincer movement that in the West swept across northern Africa and into Spain. Thereafter the Khazars found themselves in a precarious position between the two major world powers: the Eastern Roman Empire in Byzantium and the triumphant followers of Mohammed. As Arthur Koestler points out, the Khazars were the Third World of their day, and they chose a surprising method of resisting both the Western pressure to become Christian and the Eastern to adopt Islam. Rejecting both, they converted to Judaism.
So the following people are KHAZARS NOT HEBREWS
Arnold swartznegger may be a KHAZAR as well
THESE ARE KHAZARS THEY were instumental in ENSLAVING OUR PEOPLE.
The following passages are from Dr. Raphael's book Jews and Judaism in the United States: A Documentary History (New York: Behrman House, Inc., Pub, 1983), pp. 14, 23-25.
"Jews also took an active part in the Dutch colonial slave trade; indeed, the bylaws of the Recife and Mauricia congregations (1648) included an imposta (Jewish tax) of five soldos for each Negro slave a Brazilian Jew purchased from the West Indies Company. Slave auctions were postponed if they fell on a Jewish holiday. In Curacao in the seventeenth century, as well as in the British colonies of Barbados and Jamaica in the eighteenth century, Jewish merchants played a major role in the slave trade. In fact, in all the American colonies, whether French (Martinique), British, or Dutch, Jewish merchants frequently dominated.
"This was no less true on the North American mainland, where during the eighteenth century Jews participated in the 'triangular trade' that brought slaves from Africa to the West Indies and there exchanged them for molasses, which in turn was taken to New England and converted into rum for sale in Africa. Isaac Da Costa of Charleston in the 1750's, David Franks of Philadelphia in the 1760's, and Aaron Lopez of Newport in the late 1760's and early 1770's dominated Jewish slave trading on the American continent."
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^ you get your info from KKKK.net?
The Europeans Jews have some minor Khazar ancestry but recent genetics show that, unlike the Ethiopians, they and the South African Lemba have significant Hebrew Isreal DNA.
Evidence of this is sought in the name [for the origin of the Hebrew people]. There is a famous mountain in Crete called Ida; the neighbouring tribe, the Idi, came to be called Judaei by a barbarous lengthening of the national name. Others assert that in the reign of Isis the overflowing population of Egypt, led by Hierosolymus and Judas, discharged itself into the neighbouring countries. Many, again, say that they were a race of Ethiopian origin, who in the time of king Cepheus were driven by fear and hatred of their neighbours to seek a new dwelling-place. Others describe them as an Assyrian horde who, not having sufficient territory, took possession of part of Egypt, and founded cities of their own in what is called the Hebrew country, lying on the borders of Syria. Others, again, assign a very distinguished origin to the Jews, alleging that they were the Solymi, a nation celebrated in the j poems of Homer, who called the city which they founded Hierosolyma after their own name.
3. Most writers, however, agree in stating that once a disease, which horribly disfigured the body, broke out over Egypt; that king Bocchoris, seeking a remedy, consulted the oracle of Hammon, and was bidden to cleanse his realm, and to convey into some foreign land this race detested by the gods.
The people, who had been collected after diligent search, finding themselves left in a desert, sat for the most part in a stupor of grief, till one of the exiles, Moyses by name, warned them not to look for any relief from God or man, forsaken as they were of both, but to trust to them selves, taking for their heaven-sent leader that man who should first help them to be quit of their present misery. They agreed, and in utter ignorance began to advance at random. Nothing, however, distressed them so much as the scarcity of water, and they had sunk ready to perish in all I directions over the plain, when a herd of wild asses was seen to retire from their pasture to a rock shaded by trees. Moyses followed them, and, guided by the appearance of a grassy spot, discovered an abundant spring of water. This furnished relief. After a continuous journey for six days, on the seventh they possessed themselves of a country, from which they expelled the inhabitants, and in which they founded a city and a temple.
4. Moyses, wishing to secure for the future his authority over the nation, gave them a novel form of worship, opposed to all that practised by other men. Things sacred with us, with them have no sanctity, while they allow what with us is forbidden. In their holy place they have consecrated an image of the animal by whose guidance they found deliverance from their long and thirsty wanderings. They slay the ram, seemingly in derision of Hammon, and they sacrifice the ox, because the Egyptians worship it as Apis. They abstain from swines flesh, in consideration of what they suffered when they were infected by the leprosy to which this animal is liable. By their frequent fasts they still bear witness to the long hunger of former days, and the Jewish bread, made without leaven, is retained as a memorial of their hurried seizure of corn. We are told that the rest of the seventh day was adopted, because this day brought with it a termination of their toils; after a while the charm of indolence beguiled them into giving up the seventh year also to inaction. But others say that it is an observance in honour of Saturn, either from the primitive elements of their faith having been transmitted from the Ideai, who are said to have shared the flight of that God, and to have founded the race, or from the circumstance that of the seven stars which rule the destinies of men Saturn moves in the highest orbit and with the mightiest power, and that many of the heavenly bodies complete their revolutions and courses in multiples of seven.
5. This worship, however introduced~ is upheld by its antiquity; all their other customs, which are at once perverse and disgusting, owe their strength to their very badness. The most degraded out of other races, scorning their national beliefs, brought to them their contributions and presents. This augmented the wealth of the Jews, as also did the fact, that among themselves they are inflexibly honest and ever ready to shew compassion, though they regard the rest of mankind with all the hatred of enemies. They sit apart at meals, they sleep apart. and though, as a nation, they are singularly prone to lust, they abstain from intercourse with foreign women; among themselves nothing is unlawful. Circumcision was adopted by them as a mark of difference from other men. Those who come over to their religion adopt the practice, and have this lesson first instilled into despise all gods, to disown their country, and set at nought parents, children, and brethren. Still they provide for increase of their numbers. It is a crime among them any newly-born infant. They hold that the souls of perish in battle or by the hands of the executioner are mortal. Hence a passion for propagating their race and a contempt for death. They are wont to bury rather burn their dead, following in this the Egyptian custom, bestow the same care on the dead, and they hold the belief about the lower world. Quite different is their about things divine. The Egyptians worship many animals and images of monstrous form; the Jews have purely conceptions of Deity, as one in essence. They call those profane who make representations of God in human shape of perishable materials. They believe that Being to supreme and eternal, neither capable of representation or decay. They therefore do not allow any images to their cities: much less in their temples. This flattery paid to their kings, nor this honour to our Emperors. From the fact, however, that their priests used to chant to music of flutes and cymbals, and to wear garlands of and that a golden vine was found in the temple, some thought that they worshipped Father Liber, the conqueror of the East, though their institutions do not by any means harmonize with the theory; for Liber established a festive and cheerful worship, while the Jewish religion is tasteless and mean.
6. Eastward the country is bounded by Arabia; to the south lies Egypt; on the west are Phcenicia and the Mediterranean. Northward it commands an extensive prospect over Syria. The inhabitants are healthy and able to bear fatigue. Rain is uncommon, but the soil is fertile. Its products resemble our own. They have, besides, the balsam and the palm. The palm-groves are tall and graceful. The balsam is a shrub; each branch, as it fills with sap, may pierced with a fragment of stone or pottery. If steel is employed, the veins shrink up. The sap is used by physicians. Libanus is the principal mountain, and has, strange to say, amidst these burning heats, a summit shaded with trees and never deserted by its snows. The same range supplies and sends forth the stream of the Jordan. This river does not discharge itself into the sea, but flows entire through two lakes, and is lost in the third. This is a lake of vast circumference; it resembles the sea, but is more nauseous in taste; it breeds pestilence among those who live near by its noisome odour; it cannot be moved by the wind, and it affords no home either to fish or water-birds. These strange waters support what is thrown upon them, as on a solid surface, and all persons, whether they can swim or no, are equally buoyed up by the waves. At a certain season of the year the lake throws up bitumen, and the method of collecting it has been taught by that experience which teaches all other arts. It is naturally a fluid of dark colour; when vinegar is sprinkled upon it, it coagulates and floats upon the surface. Those whose business it is take it with the hand, and draw it on to the deck of the boat; it then continues of itself to flow in and lade the vessel till the stream is cut off. Nor can this be done by any instrument of brass or iron. It shrinks from blood or any cloth stained by the menstrual of women. Such is the account of old authors; but those who know the country say that the bitumen moves m heaving masses on the water, that it is drawn by hand to the shore, and that there, when dried by the evaporation of the earth and the power of the sun, it is cut into pieces with axes and wedges just as timber or stone would be.
7. Not far from this lake lies a plain, once fertile, they say, and the site of great cities, but afterwards struck by lightning and consumed. Of this event, they declare, traces still remain, for the soil, which is scorched in appearance, has lost its productive power. Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ Since the Ashkenazi Jews control the complete Gnome program, they can make DNA results say whatever they like. People like yourself have no idea of how DNA analyzers work, so you blindly repeat whatever the Jews want you to sans any tre understanding of how the results were obtained..
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ Since the Ashkenazi Jews control the complete Gnome program, they can make DNA results say whatever they like. People like yourself have no idea of how DNA analyzers work, so you blindly repeat whatever the Jews want you to sans any tre understanding of how the results were obtained..
Quite true, I will start a thread on Hebrews.
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: these Turks have simialr skin tone:
So? lol
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: .
Palestinian man.
Palestinian
Italian
Palestinian refugees in southern Lebanon circa 1982.
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: all Blacks were Moors but all moors were not actually Black whats so hard to understand about that.
1) what distinguishes a black Moor from any black African?
2) ancient writers did not call people brown. Some languages at that time didn't even have a word for brown. Ancient European writers who applied these terms that people cherish were not going by modern American standards for "black" (of African descent, has an afro etc,) Thus both the men below would be "black" to ancient European writers
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So..., who is the African American?
Oh, and Moors came from Africa.
Trying alter history is your best bet.
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: [QB] Lioness
quote:The term "Moor" was not a term those peoples called themselves. Originally the term was used by Europeans to mean various Muslims if North Africa, like black Africans, Arabs and Berbers (berbers are a mix of ethnicities) Later on Euroepans changed the menaing meaning to mean any black person form Africa In the beginning it meant black and brown Muslim invaders from North Africa Later it changed to mean dark black Africans but Islam was no longer an important part of the definition. This is more like how the Germans used it. They were not invaded by the Muslims. They used generic black people with no names in their heraldry. They called them "Moors" yet they were often Christian converts and Ethiopians who were not from North Africa
No the term Moor was used long before the Islamic era it began with the Greeks "μαυρο" or "mavro" which literally means "black, blackened or charred" and has long been used to describe black or very dark things such as, "Mavri Thalassa"
mavri and maurus etc are different words we had been discussing the crusades or almoravid periods
the Numidans were (202 BC – 46 BC) ancient Mauretania ( Roman province not the same territoty as modern day Mauritania) (3rd ce BC)
Juba II Numidian king of Mauretania 52/50 BC – AD 23
hair not wooly
The region had also been influenced by the Phoenicians
After the Vandals, Greeks and Romans and finally the Arabs you cannot say that the North African Muslims who conquered Spain in the 8th c., called Moors were the Numidians even though the Numidians sometimes get called by writers "Moors"
We are talking about when Europeans spelled the word Moor or Moros, using the letter "o" It is a loosely applied the people themselves never called themselves.
And the way it was used in places like Germany was fnot specific to meaning even Almoravid descendants of North Africa much less specific to Numdians/ancient Mauretanians
At that time, in the European medieval period they applied the term to any dark skinned African regardless of if they wer form North Africa or another place in Africa
Αἰθίοψ , οπος, ὁ, fem. Αἰθιοπίς , ίδος, ἡ （Αἰθίοψ as fem., A.Fr.328, 329): pl.
A. “Αἰθιοπῆες” Il.1.423, whence nom. “Αἰθιοπεύς” Call.Del.208: (αἴθω, ὄψ):—properly, Burnt-face, i.e. Ethiopian, negro, Hom., etc.; prov., Αἰθίοπα σμήχειν 'to wash a blackamoor white', Luc.Ind. 28.
2. a fish, Agatharch.109.
II. Adj., Ethiopian, “Αἰθιοπὶς γλῶσσα” Hdt.3.19; “γῆ” A.Fr.300, E.Fr.228.4: Subst. Αἰθιοπίς, ἡ, title of Epic poem in the Homeric cycle; also name of a plant, silver sage, Salvia argentea, Dsc.4.104:— also Αἰθιόπιος , α, ον, E.Fr.349: Αἰθιοπικός , ή, όν, Hdt., etc.; Αἰ. κύμινον, = ἄμι, Hp.Morb.3.17, Dsc. 3.62:—Subst. Αἰθιοπία , ἡ, Hdt., etc. 2. red-brown, AP7.196 (Mel.), cf. Ach. Tat.4.5.
Originally appearing in Volume V28, Page 967 of the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica.
ZENAGA (SANHAJA, SENAJER) , a Berber tribe of southern Morocco who gave their name to Senegal, once their tribal home . They formed one of the tribes which, uniting under the leadership of Yusef bin Tashfin, crossed the Sahara and gave a dynasty to Morocco and Spain, namely, that of the Almoravides (q.v.) . The Zeirid dynasty which supplanted the Fatimites in the Maghrib and founded the city of Algiers was also of Zenaga origin . The Zenaga dialect of Berber is spoken in southern Morocco and on the banks of the lower Senegal, largely by the negro population .
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN: [QB] According to history the Brittons and the Gauls Celts Germans were all the same stock with different looks within thier RACE theyu wer not WHITE people Whites were GRECO ROMAN thats it
HERE is the Proof:
SCYTHIANS:
MACRITCHIE: Quote From HIS BOOK : Ancient and Modern Britons Vol 1 and Vol 2
"Turks,sabartoiasphali, Czervii, Ugri, or Black Ugri or Ughres or Ogres are to be IDENTIFIED with the BLACK HUNS. Now this fact is important, because it brings us face to face with a large and important nation of the SCYTHIANS who were not only STYLED "BLACK" but who were actually so. And therefore, knowing how numerous they were, and how they spread themselves like a flood over Europe., it is to then we must look if we want to learn something of the history and manners of what may be called the material ancestors of the MELANCHROI. NOT that they constitute the whole of this branch of Pedigree,but plainly they form a considerable part of it.
If they left desendants as numerous, or half as numerous as themselves, The HUNS are described as being of a DARK complexion almost BLACK."
Mike there you have it, proof Turks,
Originally some of the Scythians, Huns or Ugres etc. were black. The Sabari of the Zab otherwise known as Sabartu Asphali or Sievartik (original Sephardik peoples) were often called Czerni or black Ugri in texts. They were according to the Iranian texts the original Avars and Khazars as well.
That doesn't mean all of the Scythians, Ugrii or Ogres, Danes, Huns and Avars were black. Most of them are later described as very fair with whitish, golden or red hair depending on the region. Some were even predominantly or partially east Asian in appearance.
It does explain on the other hand how the ancestors of modern Europeans received so many of the African or Afro-Asiatic deities such as Thor, Walkyries and Freyya etc. Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
quote::
Palestinian refugees in southern Lebanon circa 1982.
Interesting Patrol - I saw some of these black Palestinians working in some of the Arab grocery stores when I was living in Harlem some years ago. I didn't know they had fled to Lebanon too.
They look like they are probably from some of the same stock descendants of early Arabs still living in Jordan.
Bedouin of Jordan
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Because in ancient Greek, Mauros was the name of the colour for black
Mauros means dark, not black.
Negroids don't have a monopoly on dark skin pigmentation. Many other races are dark.
The word Mavri or Mavros in Greek is a derogatory term for black man today. So what you said is false. It can also be used for dark things.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
Mauros means dark, not black. It is distingushed in medieval texts to "Ethiope" (Black). Throughout Shakespeare the Moors are never called "Blacks" (Ethiopes).
And we've all seen that your criteria for "black men" has no scientific basis, unlike how anthropologists classify the Negroid.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
quote: And therefore, knowing how numerous they were, and how they spread themselves like a flood over Europe., it is to then we must look if we want to learn something of the history and manners of what may be called the material ancestors of the MELANCHROI
The Melanochroi are Caucasoids. The term was first used by Huxley. In brackets he called them "dark whites". There is nothing "Black" about people of this appearance.
"Blacks" don't have Caucasoid bone structure or hair texture - as much as you crave a thin nose or wavy hair, Negroids don't have those features. Claiming they do, is like saying Mongoloids are blonde.
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
two people, with the right culture and outfits who could have been considered Moors back in the day
ironically according to Mike the could have also have been vikings
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers: Mauros means dark, not black. It is distingushed in medieval texts to "Ethiope" (Black). Throughout Shakespeare the Moors are never called "Blacks" (Ethiopes).
And we've all seen that your criteria for "black men" has no scientific basis, unlike how anthropologists classify the Negroid.
Personally I could care less what Mauros means today. All I care about is what it meant. Among Latins and Greeks the word ORIGINALLY referred to BLACK MEN with WOOLLY HAIR. Just in case you were wondering, I think people here are not interested in your wishful thinking and unqualified opinions especially about "Caucasoids" and "Negroids".
In medievel texts?! Even Shakespeare makes the Moor in the play "Titus Andronicus" "coal" black and "woolly-haired" so you obviously don't know what your talking about. Shakespeare’s Merchant of Venice, III v. 42 and in George Peel’s play, The Battle of Alcazar, “Muly, the Moor, is called the Negro”! Dutchmen, Englishmen, Norsemen and Italians also OFTEN used the word Moor as a synonym for a black man just as even the early Mozarabs used it for the word "Negro" according to F. Javier Simonet. And yes - black men are dark.
Strike 2! One more and your out! Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
what a weak argument because Shakespeare used stereotypes, and far after Al-Andalusus people like Will Smith could not be considered black, not a Moor, he would have to be "coal black"
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: what a weak argument because Shakespeare used stereotypes, and far after Al-Andalusus people like Will Smith could not be considered black, not a Moor, he would have to be "coal black"
There is nothing to argue about. Shakespeare called his Moors pitch black, and so did many other writers. Of course there were others like Isidore in Spain who used "black as night" in its stead. Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
quote:Among Latins and Greeks the word ORIGINALLY referred to BLACK MEN with WOOLLY HAIR
No retard it didn't. It meant "dark". It only came to be associated with "Blacks" (capital) very late, hence the term "Blackamoor". Orginally it was used only as a term covering the Caucasoid Berbers. Once the Negroids from Sub-Sahara Africa were greater known throughout the Middle Ages, they were called Blackamoors + "Black" to Moor to distinguish between the original Moors (who were never Black).
Its got nothing to with woolly hair. Caucasoid Berbers across North Africa have wavy hair.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
"In one sense the word 'Moor' means the Mohammedan Berbers and Arabs of north-western Africa, with some Syrians, who conquered most of Spain in the eighth century and dominated the country for hundreds of years, leaving behind some magnificent examples of their architecture as a lasting memorial of their presence. These so-called 'Moors' were far in advance of any of the peoples of northern Europe at that time, not only in architecture but also in literature, science, technology, industry, and agriculture; and their civilization had a permanent influence on Spain. They were Europids, unhybridized with members of any other race. The Berbers were (and are) Mediterranids, probably with some admixture from the Cromagnid subrace of ancient times. The Arabs were Orientalids, the Syrians probably of mixed Orientalid and Armenoid stock." - John Baker, Race, Oxford University Press, 1974, p.226
The historic Moors were predominantly Caucasoids (unless you consider the few slaves they had and hybrids).
"The Berber populations nearer the Mediterranean coast were probably Caucasoids. There is little doubt that they came from the Middle East, and they have occupied the region since the Neolithic or even earlier." - Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza, Genes, Peoples and Languages, Penguin, 2001, p.122
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers:
quote:Among Latins and Greeks the word ORIGINALLY referred to BLACK MEN with WOOLLY HAIR
No retard it didn't. It meant "dark". It only came to be associated with "Blacks" (capital) very late, hence the term "Blackamoor". Orginally it was used only as a term covering the Caucasoid Berbers. Once the Negroids from Sub-Sahara Africa were greater known throughout the Middle Ages, they were called Blackamoors + "Black" to Moor to distinguish between the original Moors (who were never Black).
Its got nothing to with woolly hair. Caucasoid Berbers across North Africa have wavy hair.
The Moors of Sofala kept these wares and sold them afterwards to the heathen of the Kingdom of Benametapa, who came thither laden with gold which they gave in exchange for the said cloths without weighing it. These Moors collect also great store of ivory which they find hard by Sofala, and this also they sell in the [Indian] Kingdom of Cambay at five or six cruzados the quintal. They also sell some ambergris, which is brought to them from the Hucicas, and is exceeding good. These Moors are black, and some of them tawny; some of them speak Arabic, but the more I part use the language of the country. They clothe themselves from the waist down with cotton and silk cloths, and other cloths they wear over their shoulders like capes, and turbans on their heads. Some of them wear small caps dyed in grain in chequers and other woolen clothes in many tints, also camlets and other silks.
Duarte Barbosa, 1518
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers:
quote:Among Latins and Greeks the word ORIGINALLY referred to BLACK MEN with WOOLLY HAIR
No retard it didn't. It meant "dark". It only came to be associated with "Blacks" (capital) very late, hence the term "Blackamoor". Orginally it was used only as a term covering the Caucasoid Berbers. Once the Negroids from Sub-Sahara Africa were greater known throughout the Middle Ages, they were called Blackamoors + "Black" to Moor to distinguish between the original Moors (who were never Black).
Its got nothing to with woolly hair. Caucasoid Berbers across North Africa have wavy hair.
"Retard"? Tell that to the European scholar below, not me -
“Indeed, by the time Isidore of Seville came to write his Etymologies, the word Maurus or ‘Moor’ had become an adjective in Latin, 'for the Greeks call 'black' 'mauron’. In Isidore’s day, Moors were BLACK BY DEFINITION…”
quoted from Staying Roman: Conquest and identity in Africa and the Mediterranean, 439-700. by Jonathan Conant, 2012 Cambridge University Press.
BTW - ask me if I care if descendants of Eurasians in North Africa speaking the black man's dialect have wavy hair. lol!
BTW - Blackamoor meant and still means in the Caribbean regions black AS A MOOR!
That was 3 strikes and your out!
Ba-a-a-a-atter up!
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers:
quote:Among Latins and Greeks the word ORIGINALLY referred to BLACK MEN with WOOLLY HAIR
No retard it didn't. It meant "dark". It only came to be associated with "Blacks" (capital) very late, hence the term "Blackamoor". Orginally it was used only as a term covering the Caucasoid Berbers. Once the Negroids from Sub-Sahara Africa were greater known throughout the Middle Ages, they were called Blackamoors + "Black" to Moor to distinguish between the original Moors (who were never Black).
Its got nothing to with woolly hair. Caucasoid Berbers across North Africa have wavy hair.
The Moors of Sofala kept these wares and sold them afterwards to the heathen of the Kingdom of Benametapa, who came thither laden with gold which they gave in exchange for the said cloths without weighing it. These Moors collect also great store of ivory which they find hard by Sofala, and this also they sell in the [Indian] Kingdom of Cambay at five or six cruzados the quintal. They also sell some ambergris, which is brought to them from the Hucicas, and is exceeding good. These Moors are black, and some of them tawny; some of them speak Arabic, but the more I part use the language of the country. They clothe themselves from the waist down with cotton and silk cloths, and other cloths they wear over their shoulders like capes, and turbans on their heads. Some of them wear small caps dyed in grain in chequers and other woolen clothes in many tints, also camlets and other silks.
Duarte Barbosa, 1518
And the tawny Moors mentioned here are no doubt the Tuareg. Regardless by this time the word Moor could be used for any Muslim person.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
quote:"Retard"? Tell that to the European scholar below, not me -
“Indeed, by the time Isidore of Seville came to write his Etymologies, the word Maurus or ‘Moor’ had become an adjective in Latin, 'for the Greeks call 'black' 'mauron’. In Isidore’s day, Moors were BLACK BY DEFINITION…”
quoted from Staying Roman: Conquest and identity in Africa and the Mediterranean, 439-700. by Jonathan Conant, 2012 Cambridge University Press.
This has already been explained countless times:
"This older, more relative sense has been noted in other culture areas. The Japanese once used the terms shiroi (white) and kuroi (black) to describe their skin and its gradations of color. The Ibos of Nigeria employed ocha (white) and ojii (black) in the same way, so that nwoko ocha (white man) simply meant an Ibo with a lighter complexion. In French Canada, the older generation still refers to a swarthy Canadien as noir (black). Vestiges of this older usage persist in family names. Mr. White, Mr. Brown, and Mr. Black were individuals within the normal color spectrum of English people. Ditto for Leblanc, Lebrun, and Lenoir among the French or Weiss and Schwartz among the Germans." (Frost, 1990)
Black, will change meaning per cultural context. Obviously the kuroi (black) of the Japanese is not any shade even approaching the Negroid hue, it will just be a faint or sallow brown. Some Igbos are called "white" but compared to a Nordic from Scandinavia, they are nowhere near as pale (they are still dark brown).
You Afroloons never understand this though because your central trick to find the word black and claim it = "Blacks" (capitalized) e.g. Negroids. Its simply retarded. By the same approach, I can claim the ancient Japanese were blonde haired white skinned Nordids since shiroi (white) = white...
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers:
quote:"Retard"? Tell that to the European scholar below, not me -
“Indeed, by the time Isidore of Seville came to write his Etymologies, the word Maurus or ‘Moor’ had become an adjective in Latin, 'for the Greeks call 'black' 'mauron’. In Isidore’s day, Moors were BLACK BY DEFINITION…”
quoted from Staying Roman: Conquest and identity in Africa and the Mediterranean, 439-700. by Jonathan Conant, 2012 Cambridge University Press.
This has already been explained countless times:
"This older, more relative sense has been noted in other culture areas. The Japanese once used the terms shiroi (white) and kuroi (black) to describe their skin and its gradations of color. The Ibos of Nigeria employed ocha (white) and ojii (black) in the same way, so that nwoko ocha (white man) simply meant an Ibo with a lighter complexion. In French Canada, the older generation still refers to a swarthy Canadien as noir (black). Vestiges of this older usage persist in family names. Mr. White, Mr. Brown, and Mr. Black were individuals within the normal color spectrum of English people. Ditto for Leblanc, Lebrun, and Lenoir among the French or Weiss and Schwartz among the Germans." (Frost, 1990)
Black, will change meaning per cultural context. Obviously the kuroi (black) of the Japanese is not any shade even approaching the Negroid hue, it will just be a faint or sallow brown. Some Igbos are called "white" but compared to a Nordic from Scandinavia, they are nowhere near as pale (they are still dark brown).
You Afroloons never understand this though because your central trick to find the word black and claim it = "Blacks" (capitalized) e.g. Negroids. Its simply retarded. By the same approach, I can claim the ancient Japanese were blonde haired white skinned Nordids since shiroi (white) = white...
Pathetic nobody - obviously you've never been to Japan if you think there aren't people black as Negroes there. i'm sure if you ask Mike he can post some pictures of them as well.
Your going to have to start using some logic here. you are not on the Euronut or wackymatilda sites anymore. if Norsemen and Englishmen used the word black for Negroes and vice versa it is because Negro meant black. just like they used the word Moor for Negro and vice versa originally, Neanderdunce.
YOU are the mentally deficient one here. What the scholar above posted is in no way analogous to the way Igbos and other Africans use the word. The word Niger/Nigri was early on used for Moors and vice versa by everyone from Danes to Germans and Latins to Mozarabs. Now how does that compare with how Canadians or Germans may use the word black today. How does "black as night" as used by Isidore in Seville mean swarthy yellow or Turkish.
Are you for real?! Because you are proving to be the real nut in denial Afrocentrics make your ilk out to be. Whatever nuttiness may appear on this site you are nothing less than their equivalent. Get over your feelings of inferiority and fear of blackness!
BTW - MR Black and Mr. Brown often have what look to be full-fledged Negroes in their coat of arms, (unlike Mr. White), unfortunately for you. As do people named Morelli, Moorman, Mormon, Swarthmore, blackmoor, Maurice, Morris, and Moore, ETCETERA.
I guess you'd like us to believe these were just a figment of these families imaginations.
And that has ALSO been posted on this site "countless times" before.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
I personally lean to Moor meaning "Wasteland". Thus Moors would be people of the North African Wastelands (Deserts).
MOOR - "waste ground," Old English mor "morass, swamp," from Proto-Germanic *mora- (cf. Old Saxon, Middle Dutch, Dutch meer "swamp," Old High German muor "swamp," also "sea," German Moor "moor," Old Norse mörr "moorland," marr "sea"), perhaps related to mere (n.), or from root *mer- "to die," hence "dead land."
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
"Vestiges of this older usage persist in family names. Mr. White, Mr. Brown, and Mr. Black were individuals within the normal color spectrum of English people." (Frost, 1990)
"Black" to an Englishman, would have been no darker than olive.
Your worldview simply rests on the retarded idea "black" in any culture = "Black Africans" when it doesn't. Your entire worldview is shattered with one quote. lmao. What a fail at life.
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers: "Vestiges of this older usage persist in family names. Mr. White, Mr. Brown, and Mr. Black were individuals within the normal color spectrum of English people." (Frost, 1990)
"Black" to an Englishman, would have been no darker than olive.
Your worldview simply rests on the retarded idea "black" in any culture = "Black Africans" when it doesn't. Your entire worldview is shattered with one quote. lmao. What a fail at life.
obviously black in early English culture WAS NOT OLIVE - ignoramous. Such assanine statements spouted today have no relevance to a thousand years ago, now do they!
Iranians, Syrians, Turks (Kurds), Andalusians like Ibn Khaldun and other people also have a special meaning for black in their language. They have always used the same word black for the Berbers as for the rest of the sub-Saharan Africans.
Play games if you want with wackymatilda logic you will only end up drowning here in your own pathetic nonsense. just because some people aren't black or brown now doesn't mean the ancestors of those families that were first called black or Morelli or Moran were not black, as their medieval depictions plainly show.
You haven't mentioned anything about my world view, but Englishmen obviously had a view of what Moors looked like and far different apparently than you want it to be.
And I wish you would stop projecting your loser status and sense of inferiority onto others. like I said - its pathetic.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
"Old Arab descriptions of "blacks" also reveal that what they meant by "black" is not necessarily what we understand it to mean today. Some medieval Arab writers such as al-Jahiz applied the term "blacks" to practically all peoples darker than the average Arab, and "whites" to peoples lighter than the norm:
"The blacks are more numerous than the whites. The whites at most consist of the people of Persia, Jibal, and Khurasan, the Greeks, Slavs, Franks, and Avars, and some few others, not very numerous; the blacks include the Zanj, Ethiopians, the people of Fazzan, the Berbers, the Copts, and Nubians, the people of Zaghawa, Marw, Sind and India, Qamar and Dabila, China, and Masin... the islands in the seas between China and Africa are full of blacks, such as Ceylon, Kalah, Amal, Zabij, and their islands, as far as India, China, Kabul, and those shores"
Jahiz's inclusion of Indians, Sindhi, and Chinese as "blacks" reinforces the point that color terms taken out of their cultural contexts are too ambiguous to determine the physical characteristics of peoples with much accuracy."
Further Negroids don't even have a monopoly on dark skin. So all your articles are just worthless junk.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers: "Old Arab descriptions of "blacks" also reveal that what they meant by "black" is not necessarily what we understand it to mean today. Some medieval Arab writers such as al-Jahiz applied the term "blacks" to practically all peoples darker than the average Arab, and "whites" to peoples lighter than the norm:
"The blacks are more numerous than the whites. The whites at most consist of the people of Persia, Jibal, and Khurasan, the Greeks, Slavs, Franks, and Avars, and some few others, not very numerous; the blacks include the Zanj, Ethiopians, the people of Fazzan, the Berbers, the Copts, and Nubians, the people of Zaghawa, Marw, Sind and India, Qamar and Dabila, China, and Masin... the islands in the seas between China and Africa are full of blacks, such as Ceylon, Kalah, Amal, Zabij, and their islands, as far as India, China, Kabul, and those shores"
Jahiz's inclusion of Indians, Sindhi, and Chinese as "blacks" reinforces the point that color terms taken out of their cultural contexts are too ambiguous to determine the physical characteristics of peoples with much accuracy."
Europeans, as with the term "berber" applied the term "Moor" loosely and that these were not terms that the people called this called themselves. I'm of the opinion that European applied the term "Moor" to a range of ethnicities of people who had been living in North Africa and who took over Spain, muslims including Arabs, black Africans and mixtures of these people as well as smaller amounts of Greek, Roman and Phoenician mixed in and comprising a range of skin tones form yelowish light brown to dark and black African. etc, All could be called Moors. (although dana says they have to be "true negroes" with "coal black" skin
^^^ Here is a picture of St James the Moorslayer, 17th century
But there is also quite a bit of pitch black African looking heads used in European heraldry going back to the 13th century.
" The emblem has connections to the Crusades, reflecting associating individual families with victories over the moors. Heraldic devices and emblems were included on objects like those featured here to indicate ownership.
The device may also have connections with the Hohenstaufan dynasty, which ruled the Holy Roman Empire from 1138 to 1254. The Emperor Henry VI (1165–97) kept black African retainers. His son Frederick II (1194–1250), who was also king of Sicily, took a keen interest in the black Muslim population that had remained in Sicily after the island's return to Christian rule in 1061. He established an enclave for these Muslims near his palace in Lucera in southern Italy, and recruited his musicians and elite bodyguard from the community.
Frederick's use of black Africans can be explained by his desire to present himself as a 'world ruler'. Their presence symbolised the extent of his power. Other families may have adopted the moor's head on their arms to associate themselves with the Hohenstaufan dynasty. By 1400 a moor, as a crowned head in profile, or occasionally as a full figure, was relatively common in German heraldry. In time, its usage spread to almost every European country. By the 16th century, the moor's head had become a conventional motif.
The moor's head device was also used in Italian heraldry, especially by families in the north and centre of the peninsula. The earliest known example appears in the 11th century. Its use by families such as the Saraceni of Siena, the Morandi of Genoa, the Morese of Bologna, the Negri of Vicenza and the Pagani of Saluzzo suggests that the device was intended as a pun on surnames similar to the Italian words for moor, negro and saracen. However, the Pucci family also used it. The moor in Italian art was usually depicted wearing a white band tied above the eyes, instead of the German imperial crown, to represent victory over the moors during the Crusades. These families may have originally acquired their surnames from crusader ancestors. The moor's head motif is still in use today. The coat of arms of the current pope, Benedict XVI, features the profile of a black man wearing a crown and gold earring.
Obvioulsly Blacks have been included in descriptions of Moors for a few hundred years. In Italy the earliest known heraldic example appears in the 11th century.
So why are there so many blacks included in what Euroepans were calling "Moors" in their herladry?
Even the word "blackamoor" which dates back to 1540 has the word "moor" in it. This indicates blacks can be considered Moors.
Arms of Arthur Annesley, Earl of Annesley, with a Roman knight and a Moorish prince supporting and a moor's head in the crest, from the Lambeth Palace Heraldry Manuscript, 1664 (pen & ink and w/c on paper)
The invasion of Iberia was carried out by a mixture of berber and Arab soldiers from North Africa.
^^^ this is the Almoravid empire, Moors
^^^ These berbers were also called "Moors" > They were alreadly a mixed people. Their empire went down as far as the Senegal River as you can see on the map and they also conquered Ghana. These more Southerly areas certainly had dark black Africans in them. They converted many of them to Islam and married into their noibility. All of these people including dark Black African converts would have been called Moors.
Depiction of the 11th C. Almoravid general Abu Bakr ibn Umar, in the 1413 portolan chart of Mecia Viladestes.
Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
Fahdumdum
quote:they were called Blackamoors + "Black" to Moor to distinguish between the original Moors (who were never Black).
No!! you idiotic intellectual fraud it meant Black as a Moor stop twisting things,twannie Moors were relatively lite skinned, the term Moor didn't come to include "Blacks" it started out as Black and came to include non Blacks and Muslims of all sorts.
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers: "In one sense the word 'Moor' means the Mohammedan Berbers and Arabs of north-western Africa, with some Syrians, who conquered most of Spain in the eighth century and dominated the country for hundreds of years, leaving behind some magnificent examples of their architecture as a lasting memorial of their presence. These so-called 'Moors' were far in advance of any of the peoples of northern Europe at that time, not only in architecture but also in literature, science, technology, industry, and agriculture; and their civilization had a permanent influence on Spain. They were Europids, unhybridized with members of any other race. The Berbers were (and are) Mediterranids, probably with some admixture from the Cromagnid subrace of ancient times. The Arabs were Orientalids, the Syrians probably of mixed Orientalid and Armenoid stock." - John Baker, Race, Oxford University Press, 1974, p.226
The historic Moors were predominantly Caucasoids (unless you consider the few slaves they had and hybrids).
"The Berber populations nearer the Mediterranean coast were probably Caucasoids. There is little doubt that they came from the Middle East, and they have occupied the region since the Neolithic or even earlier." - Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza, Genes, Peoples and Languages, Penguin, 2001, p.122
Moors, BERBERS are negros here is the proof from an ancient Arab named Ibn Battuta
Ibn Battuta;
was a Moroccan explorer. He is known for his extensive travels, accounts of which were published in the Rihla (lit. "Journey"). Over a period of thirty years, Battuta visited most of the known Islamic world as well as many non-Muslim lands. His journeys included trips to North Africa, the Horn of Africa, West Africa and Eastern Europe in the West, and to the Middle East, South Asia, Central Asia, Southeast Asia and China in the East, a distance surpassing threefold his near-contemporary Marco Polo. Battuta is considered one of the greatest travellers of all time.
Ibn Battuta is the MOST credible witness to what the TRUE BERBERS looked like this is what he said when he visited SOMALIA in 1331 A.D
" From Aden, Ibn Battuta embarked on a ship heading for Zeila on the coast of Somalia. He then moved on to Cape Guardafui further down the Somalia seaboard, spending about a week in each location. Later he would visit Mogadishu, the then pre-eminent city of the "Land of the Berbers" Balad al-Barbar, the medieval Arabic term for the Horn of Africa)
THERE you go This destroys anything you post or have posted about the berbers being white people STOP LYING!
I will quote IBN BATTUTA HE SAID that the CITY of Mogadishu, the then pre-eminent city of the "Land of the Berbers" Balad al-Barbar, the medieval Arabic term for the Horn of Africa)
So this dis proves you and your FAKE scholars THE BERBERS have always been SO CALLED BLACK/ Brown
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
"Ancient Egyptian civilisation - mixed. Moorish civilisation - mixed. Greek civilisation not mixed. Roman civilisation - not mixed." - Lioness
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN:
So this dis proves you and your FAKE scholars THE BERBERS have always been SO CALLED BLACK/ Brown
The largest group of berbers is the Kabyle. There's also the Mozabites.
Look up both groups in google images and tell me they are Black rather than mixed.
quote:Originally posted by TRUTH HITMAN:
I will quote IBN BATTUTA HE SAID that the CITY of Mogadishu, the then pre-eminent city of the "Land of the Berbers" Balad al-Barbar, the medieval Arabic term for the Horn of Africa)
The topic is the Moors who invaded Iberia. These were people that included bebers from the Maghreb not from the horn
The Moroccan traveller Ibn Battuta's appearance on the Somali coast in 1331, the city was at the zenith of its prosperity. He described Mogadishu as "an exceedingly large city" with many rich merchants, which was famous for its high quality fabric that it exported to Egypt, among other places.He added that the city was ruled by a Somali Sultan originally from Berbera in northern Somalia who spoke both Somali (referred to by Battuta as Mogadishan, the Benadir dialect of Somali) and Arabic with equal fluencyBarbara, also referred to as Bilad al-Barbar (Land of the Berbers), was an ancient region on the northern coast of the Somalia.
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
Confusion between then and today
Largest representative of Jews today
Largest representative of Berbers today Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Fahdumdum
quote:they were called Blackamoors + "Black" to Moor to distinguish between the original Moors (who were never Black).
No!! you idiotic intellectual fraud it meant Black as a Moor stop twisting things,twannie Moors were relatively lite skinned, the term Moor didn't come to include "Blacks" it started out as Black and came to include non Blacks and Muslims of all sorts.
The foundation of the empire of al-Andalus in Spain was begun by the Great Umayyad Caliph Al-Walid I who sent the berber Tariq ibn-Ziyad leading a small force from North Africa that landed at Gibraltar on April 30, 711.
As we know the Khoisans in Southen Africa have lighter skin because they are further form the equator, have been there longer than bantu and there is relatively less UV there than at the equator. Likewise the North of Africa is at a similr distance from the equator. So you wouldn't expect someone indigenous to there to be as dark as someone from Ghana.
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After the Umayyad came the Almoravids ( 1040–1147)
^^^ they came down further south as far and intermarried with darker skinned people there as well as conquering Ghana around 1075
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
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Kabyle berber 1860
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Métier à tisser Kabyle. Albuminabzug. 21 x 27 cm. Blattgröße: 28 x 34 cm. Links unten Exemplarnummer "2056" bezeichnet sowie rechts unten auf dem Bild betitelt. (kabyles at the loom, albumen print)
brada you might want to save this set, I made some custom enlargements
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
Kabyle berber 1860 i.e. long after the fall of Moors (blacks) and the advance of Europeans mixing.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [QB] Confusion between then and today
Largest representative of Jews today
do the Muslim and Chrsitian version also,
There are only about 13.3 million Jews in the whole world
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
13.3 million Jews in the world, therefore?
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [QB] Confusion between then and today
Largest representative of Jews today
do the Muslim and Chrsitian version also,
There are only about 13.3 million Jews in the whole world
Stop spreading rumors and nonsense.
No one knows exactly how many Jews are in the US let alone the world. In spite of their passing themselves off as a separate race, Jews have setup all of the census to not include their breakdown. The census includes; African-American, White, Hispanic, but no "Jewish" classifications.
The US Census has no "Jewish" classification because Ahkenazi Jews wish to keep their exact numbers secret. However, if you observe the number of US Jewish lawmakers, TV production/Actors, Corporate CEO/CFOs, internet presence, bankers, Wall street execs, ect. you can easily see the number of US Jews is far greater than the 2-4% they want you to believe.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: Kabyle berber 1860 i.e. long after the fall of Moors (blacks) and the advance of Europeans mixing.
I think the people in the 1860 photo may be more mixed with Arabs than Europeans. They were able to avoid and retreat from the Ottomans into the mountains.
Since the 4000 BC, the indigenous peoples of northern Africa (identified by the Romans as Berbers) were pushed back from the coast by successive waves of Phoenician, Roman, Vandal, Byzantine, Arab, Turkish, and, finally, French invaders.
Phoenician traders arrived on the North African coast around 900 BC and established Carthage (in present-day Tunisia) around 800 BC. During the classical period, Berber civilization was already at a stage in which agriculture, manufacturing, trade, and political organization supported several states. Trade links between Carthage and the Berbers in the interior grew, but territorial expansion also resulted in the enslavement or military recruitment of some Berbers and in the extraction of tribute from others.
The Carthaginian state declined because of successive defeats by the Romans in the Punic Wars, and in 146 BC the city of Carthage was destroyed. As Carthaginian power waned, the influence of Berber leaders in the hinterland grew.
Massinissa By the 2nd century BC, several large but loosely administered Berber kingdoms had emerged. After that king Massinissa managed to unify Numidia under his rule.
Madghis (Madghacen) was a king of independent kingdoms of the Numidians, between 12 and 3 BC.
Berber territory was annexed by the Roman Empire in AD 24. Increases in urbanization and in the area under cultivation during Roman rule caused wholesale dislocations of Berber society, and Berber opposition to the Roman presence was nearly constant. The prosperity of most towns depended on agriculture, and the region was known as the breadbasket of the empire.
Christianity arrived in the 2nd century AD. By the end of the 4th century, the settled areas had become Christianized, and some Berber tribes had converted en masse.
According to historians of the Middle Ages, the Berbers are divided into two branches, two are from their ancestor Mazigh. In sum, the two branches Botr and Barnès are also divided into tribes. each Maghreb region is made up of several tribes. The large Berber tribes or peoples are Sanhadja, Houaras, Zenata, Masmouda, Kutama, Awarba, Berghwata ... etc. Each tribe is divided into sub tribes. All these tribes have independence and territorial decisions.
Several Berber dynasties have emerged during the Middle Ages to the Maghreb, Sudan, in Andalusia, Italy, in Mali, Niger, Senegal, Egypt ... etc.. Ibn Khaldoun made a table of Berber Dynasties: Zirid, Banu Ifran, Maghrawa, Almoravid, Hammadid, Almohad, Merinid, Abdalwadid, Wattasid, Meknassa, Hafsid dynasty
The 8th and 11th centuries AD, brought Islam and the Arabic language.The introduction of Islam and Arabic had a profound impact on North Africa (or the Maghreb) beginning in the 7th century. The new religion and language introduced changes in social and economic relations, established links with a rich culture, and provided a powerful idiom of political discourse and organisation. From the great Berber dynasties of the Almoravids and Almohads to the militants seeking an Islamic state in the 1990s, the call to return to true Islamic values and practices has had social resonance and political power.
The first Arab military expeditions into the Maghreb, between 642 and 669, resulted in the spread of Islam. The Umayyads (a Muslim dynasty based in Damascus from 661 to 750)
>>>> This period was marked by constant conflict, political instability, and economic decline. Following a large incursion of Arab bedouin from Egypt beginning in the first half of the 11th century, the use of Arabic spread to the countryside, and sedentary Berbers were gradually Arabised. Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
13.3 million + 6 million = 19.3 million
Well there should've been 19.3 million Jews today. lol
True rep. of Romans at the time.
True rep. of Berbers at the time
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [QB] Confusion between then and today
Largest representative of Jews today
do the Muslim and Chrsitian version also,
There are only about 13.3 million Jews in the whole world
Stop spreading rumors and nonsense.
No one knows exactly how many Jews are in the US let alone the world. In spite of their passing themselves off as a separate race, Jews have setup all of the census to not include their breakdown. The census includes; African-American, White, Hispanic, but no "Jewish" classifications.
The US Census has no "Jewish" classification because Ahkenazi Jews wish to keep their exact numbers secret. However, if you observe the number of US Jewish lawmakers, TV production/Actors, Corporate CEO/CFOs, internet presence, bankers, Wall street execs, ect. you can easily see the number of US Jews is far greater than the 2-4% they want you to believe.
what is your guess as to the worldwide popualtion of Jews? I said 13.3 million
would you say it's more like 100 million?
you'd think with that much power they have they would be spreading the Jewsih religion all over the place, synagogues and so on.
I was thinking maybe some churches have secret synagogues below ground level
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: Kabyle berber 1860 i.e. long after the fall of Moors (blacks) and the advance of Europeans mixing.
Phoenician traders = no blacks
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [QB] 13.3 million + 6 million = 19.3 million
Well there should've been 19.3 million Jews today. lol
now you've got your facts straight although between 5-6 million also 2 to 3 million Soviet POWs, 2 million ethnic Poles, up to 1,500,000 Romani, 200,000 handicapped, political and religious dissenters, 15,000 homosexuals and 5,000 Jehovah's Witnesses,
but do you agree with her Narmertot that the worldwide population must be several times larger than what is recorded?
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [QB] 13.3 million + 6 million = 19.3 million
Well there should've been 19.3 million Jews today. lol
now you've got your facts straight although between 5-6 million also 2 to 3 million Soviet POWs, 2 million ethnic Poles, up to 1,500,000 Romani, 200,000 handicapped, political and religious dissenters, 15,000 homosexuals and 5,000 Jehovah's Witnesses,
but do you agree with her Narmertot that the worldwide population must be several times larger than what is recorded?
Do you have evidence of over million dead on eastern front. And while at it for Nazis gassing Jews during WW2?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: Kabyle berber 1860 i.e. long after the fall of Moors (blacks) and the advance of Europeans mixing.
Phoenician traders = no blacks
I didn't say that asshole, that's how you operate setting up straw men.
I will say it clearly for the idiots berbers as a whole are a mixed people and part of that mix includes indigenous black Africans
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: "Ancient Egyptian civilisation - mixed. Moorish civilisation - mixed. Greek civilisation not mixed. Roman civilisation - not mixed." - Lioness
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [QB] Confusion between then and today
Largest representative of Jews today
do the Muslim and Chrsitian version also,
There are only about 13.3 million Jews in the whole world
Stop spreading rumors and nonsense.
No one knows exactly how many Jews are in the US let alone the world. In spite of their passing themselves off as a separate race, Jews have setup all of the census to not include their breakdown. The census includes; African-American, White, Hispanic, but no "Jewish" classifications.
The US Census has no "Jewish" classification because Ahkenazi Jews wish to keep their exact numbers secret. However, if you observe the number of US Jewish lawmakers, TV production/Actors, Corporate CEO/CFOs, internet presence, bankers, Wall street execs, ect. you can easily see the number of US Jews is far greater than the 2-4% they want you to believe.
what is your guess as to the worldwide popualtion of Jews? I said 13.3 million
would you say it's more like 100 million?
you'd think with that much power they have they would be spreading the Jewsih religion all over the place, synagogues and so on.
I was thinking maybe some churches have secret synagogues below ground level
Why do Jews, who pretty much control the US census, refuse to include a Jewish category to the census? Uninformed people have been using the 2% of population lie for the last 50 years in spite of the number 1 immigration to the US being European (Russian, Ukraine, Poland, German) Jews.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
it's great how any thread can become a holocaust denial debate,
soon anguishedofbeing will say the Herero and Namaqua Genocide never happened due to lack of evidence
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
NarmerThot is right there are more then 13 million Jews in the world.If you look at the high number of Jewish people in prestigious places there most be more Jewish people in the world.A lot of Jew in the world are crypto Jew like Senator John Kerry, S of S Madeline Albright, French Pres Nicholas sarkozi, German Pres Helmut Kohl,Pres Bill Clinton and S of S Hillary Clinton(daughter Chelsea married a Rich Jew).The crypto Jew are secret Jew or secular Jew that pose as Christian but still support the Jewish cause.A famous Chicago journalist stated that Lioness hobby President Barry Davis Obama mother was Jewish,A Chicago Rabby stated President Barrack Obama will be the first Jewish President(false Two Roosevelts, Clinton and other).There are a lot of Crypto Jew in the Islamic world middle east and North Africa.
I think the number of white Jew worlwide is 40 millions. 20 millions in the USA, 10 millions in Europe, 10 millions in the Islamic world.It maybe 50 million orthodox Jew have a lot of baby.I dont even count the million of black Jews of Nigeria, Ghana, Senegal, Uganda, Ethiopia, Zimbabwe, South Africa.Some of the black Jew are crypto also.If black Jew are included we may have 80 millions Jews in the world.
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: it's great how any thread can become a holocaust denial debate,
Thought so. lol
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmertot
:]Why do Jews, who pretty much control the US census, refuse to include a Jewish category to the census?
the Bureau of the Census is not the source for information on religions such as Christainity, Judaism or Islam
quote:Originally posted by Narmertot:
Uninformed people have been using the 2% of population lie for the last 50 years in spite of the number 1 immigration to the US being European (Russian, Ukraine, Poland, German) Jews. [/QB]
you would think people who had that much comtrol would inflate their numbers rather than deflate them.
Maybe their magical powers are somehow involved.
For instance New York City has 8,175,133 people The number of Jews is said to be to 1.54 million in 2011
Narmertot, give me a ballpark guess as to the percentage of jews in the world, take out your Jew-o-meter
Minister Farakhan is the jews biggest hype man
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by mena7: [QB] NarmerThot is right there are more then 13 million Jews in the world.If you look at the high number of Jewish people in prestigious places there most be more Jewish people in the world.A lot of Jew in the world are crypto Jew like Senator John Kerry, S of S Madeline Albright, French Pres Nicholas sarkozi, German Pres Helmut Kohl,Pres Bill Clinton and S of S Hillary Clinton(daughter Chelsea married a Rich Jew).The crypto Jew are secret Jew or secular Jew that pose as Christian but still support the Jewish cause.
Crypto-Judaism is the secret pratcice of Judaism while publicly professing to be Christian;. The term crypto-Jew is also used to describe descendants who maintain some Jewish traditions of their ancestors, often secretly, while publicly adhering to other faiths, most commonly Catholicism. Crypto-Judaism dates back to earlier periods when Jews and Muslims were forced or pressured to convert to Christianity by the rulers of places they lived in. The phenomenon is especially associated with early modern Spain, following the expulsion of the Jews in 1492 and the Spanish Inquisition.
Obviously it shows that Jews didn't have that much power otherwise they would not have been forced to convert and remained public Jews.
And keep in mind if Jews were that powerful they would take a lot of pride in having a U.S. president. If you are forced to hide all the time you don't have that much power.
If you look at U.S. politicians today many have no Jewish background but still support Israel or Jewsish causes to some extent. Others don't.
Other U.S. politicians might be Jewish or part Jewish in ancestry.
If they are part Jewish in ancestry and say they are Christina and go to a Christian church you can't assume that they are crypto Jews like in medieval Spain and that they secretly practice Judaism. They might or might not. That is like saying Barack is secretly practicing Islam because his father was Muslim. They may secretly practice judaism or they may just have some Jewish ancestry but prefer Christianity or atheism.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [QUOTE]the Bureau of the Census is not the source for information on religions such as Christainity, Judaism or Islam
True, but it is Jews themselves who state that they are not simply a religion, but a genetically separate race of people whereas the main path to becoming a Jew is to be born from a Jewish mother implying a genetic inheritance.
This factoid based genetic component to "Jewishness" places them apart from Baptist, Muslim or Christian, and along side racial classification.
Now, I don't believe that Jews are a separate race but this is infact how Ashkenazi Jews position themselves. So, according to Ashkenazi Jew convention, census classification should be; 1) White (Gentile) 2. White (Jew) 3. White (Hispanic) 4. African American 5. Native American 6. Non-White (Hispanic) 7. Asian etc., ect.
But since Ashkenazi Jews employ all available methods to hide their identities/numbers/etc., they are not counted in any public census in America, or the world. I'm positive that this secrecy is intended to low ball any accurate estimate of their true representation which is definitely much greater than the 2% factoid being encouraged & promoted.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [ [QUOTE]the Bureau of the Census is not the source for information on religions such as Christainity, Judaism or Islam [/qb]
True, but it is Jews themselves who state that they are not simply a religion, but a genetically separate race of people whereas the main path to becoming a Jew is to be born from a Jewish mother implying a genetic inheritance.
This factoid based genetic component to "Jewishness" places them apart from Baptist, Muslim or Christian, and along side racial classification.
genetics does not set people apart by religion
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
Now, I don't believe that Jews are a separate race
then maybe you should stop blowing wind
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
but this is infact how Ashkenazi Jews position themselves. So, according to Ashkenazi Jew convention, census classification should be; 1) White (Gentile) 2. White (Jew) 3. White (Hispanic) 4. African American 5. Native American 6. Non-White (Hispanic) 7. Asian etc., ect.
But since Ashkenazi Jews employ all available methods to hide their identities/numbers/etc., they are not counted in any public census in America, or the world. [/qb]
again, the Bureau of the Census is not the source for information on religions such as Christainity, Judaism or Islam
and why would Jews hide the fact that their world population is greater than 13.3 million ?
If you have power you don't have to hide. Also keep in mind many of Jewish background are atheist and many pratice the religion only lightly during holidays
so I assume that you believe the properly labeled list is
1. White 2. White (Hispanic) 3. African American 4. Native American 5. Non-White (Hispanic) 6. Asian
and that Jews are of one of the religions of the white, african and Asian groups
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Obviously it shows that Jews didn't have that much power otherwise they would not have been forced to convert and remained public Jews.
The conversion was a strategic move.
In Christian Spain, faced with animosity and hostility, and threats, from the local Christian populace, in the late fourteenth century the Jewish community set upon an elaborate deceit towards both survival as Jews and power. Known as "conversos," or derisively by Christians as "Marranos" (swine), Spanish Jews converted en masse to Christianity, falsely professing the new faith for public consumption, but remaining Jews in virtually all respects in their private lives. The Jewish historian Cecil Roth notes that once the community embarked upon the ruse of conversion:
"The social and economic progress of the recent converts and their descendants became phenomenally rapid. However dubious their sincerity [as Christians], it was now out of the question to exclude them from any walk of life on the ground of their creed. The Law, the administration, the army, the universities, the Church itself, were all overrun by recent converts of more or less questionable sincerity, or by their immediate descendants. They thronged to financial administration; for which they had a natural aptitude; protest being now impossible. They pushed their way into the municipal councils, into the legislature, into the judiciary. They all but dominated Spanish life ...Within a couple of generations ... almost every office of importance at [Royal] Court was occupied by Conversos and their children." [ROTH, p. 20-21] link
Behind the scenes people...
Others are clearly uncomfortable with the huge amount of exposure being given Lieberman, preferring the time-honored role of Jews as behind-the-scenes movers and shakers, who traditionally advance their agenda while letting someone else occupy the public spotlight.
Good for the Jews? By Stuart Weiss Jerusalem Post, Internet edition, as a Jewish World Article, September 4th, 2000.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
Liar ^ Don't be such a Jew always trying to Jew me down.
You realize it doesn't matter what I think about Judaism. What matters is what Jews Ashkenazi say, and Jews say they are a separate race, and it is their race that defines their (your) religion. That being their position, US census data should include racial numbers for the US Jewish presence.
Anguish, it wasn't just Spain, but they did exactly the same thing in Pre-WW-II Germany where they held many high offices and controlled things behind the scenes. Everything is strategic with Jews, including hiding their identities and numbers, as well as who their daughters marry.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [ROTH, p. 20-21] link
another of your typical links to white supremacist Christian identity movement website, are you in some facist group of some kind? a proud memeber of_____________ ?
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
]LOL No come back! Another lioness produce! HAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
1ad ho·mi·nem adjective \(ˈ)ad-ˈhä-mə-ˌnem, -nəm\ Definition of AD HOMINEM 1 : appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect 2 : marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
You realize it doesn't matter what I think about Judaism. What matters is what Jews Ashkenazi say,
then use quotes of them rather than makng up shyt
and also keep in mind there is a diveristy of opinion within people of Jewsih ancestry and what one person says does not represent all of the people.
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
Making up shyt like "secret gassings" by Nazis so as not to arouse world attention? lol
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
You realize it doesn't matter what I think about Judaism. What matters is what Jews Ashkenazi say,
then use quotes of them rather than makng up shyt
and also keep in mind there is a diveristy of opinion within people of Jewsih ancestry and what one person says does not represent all of the people.
Diversity is unimportant. What IS important is which segment gets it's way. At present, the Jewish segment that gets it's way is the one opposed to presenting accurate tracking of Jews in America. These are the same ones who present themselves as a religion defined by their race.
From Websters:
Jew
In Jewish tradition, any child born of a Jewish mother is considered a Jew; in Reform Judaism a child is considered a Jew if either parent is Jewish.
Implies a genetic component to being Jewish.
How Jews are packaging themselves as a distinct race.
Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People By Harry Ostrer
In his new book, “Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People,” Harry Ostrer, a medical geneticist and professor at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York, claims that Jews are different, and the differences are not just skin deep. Jews exhibit, he writes, a distinctive genetic signature. Considering that the Nazis tried to exterminate Jews based on their supposed racial distinctiveness, such a conclusion might be a cause for concern. But Ostrer sees it as central to Jewish identity.
As can be seen, Jews are always propagandizing their position. The Nazis may have observed certain physical characteristics of Ashkenazi Jews but they certainly did not possess any genetic racial distinction to them.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [QB] ]LOL No come back! A
why would I have to comeback crypto Jews existed and I put up information to that effect already.
But if you want more info, which is easy to get without having to go to white supremacist webistes:
A converso (Spanish: [komˈberso]; Portuguese: [kõˈvɛɾsu]; Catalan: convers [kumˈbɛrs], [komˈvɛɾs]; "a convert", from Latin conversvs, "converted, turned around") and its feminine form conversa was a Jew or Muslim who converted to Catholicism in Spain or Portugal, particularly during the 14th and 15th centuries, or one of their descendents. Mass conversions once took place under significant government pressure. The Treaty of Granada (1491) at the last surrender of Al-Andalus issued clear protections of religious rights; the Alhambra Decree (1492) began the reversal.
New Christians of Moorish origin were known as moriscos (Galician and Portuguese: mourisco). The term morisco may also refer to Crypto-Muslims, i.e. those who secretly continued to practice Islam. New Christians of Jewish origin were referred to as marranos. The term marrano may also refer to Crypto-Jews, i.e. those who secretly continued to practice Judaism.
Conversos were subject to suspicion and harassment from both the community they were leaving and that which they were joining. Both Christians and Jews called them tornadizo (renegade). James I, Alfonso X and John I passed laws forbidding the use of this epithet. This was part of a larger pattern of royal protection, as laws were promulgated to protect their property, forbid attempts to reconvert them, and regulate the behavior of the conversos themselves, preventing their cohabitation or even dining with Jews, lest they convert back.
The conversos did not enjoy legal equality. Alfonso VII prohibited the "recently converted" from holding office in Toledo. They had both supporters and bitter opponents within the Christian secular and religious leadership. Conversos could be found in various roles within the Iberian kingdoms, from bishop to royal mistress, showing a degree of general acceptance, yet they became targets of occasional pogroms during times of extreme social tension (as during an epidemic and after an earthquake). They were subject to the Spanish and Portuguese inquisitions.
While pure blood (so-called limpieza de sangre) would come to be placed at a premium, particularly among the nobility, in a 15th-century defense of conversos, Bishop Lope de Barrientos would list what Roth calls "a veritable 'Who's Who' of Spanish nobility" as having converso members or being of converso descent. He pointed out that given the near-universal conversion of Iberian Jews during Visigothic times, (quoting Roth) "[W]ho among the Christians of Spain could be certain that he is not a descendant of those conversos?"
According to a widely publicised study (December 2008) published in the American Journal of Human Genetics, 19.8 percent of modern Spaniards (and Portuguese) have DNA reflecting Sephardic Jewish ancestry (compared to 10.6 percent having DNA reflecting Moorish ancestors). The Sephardic result is in contradiction or not replicated in all the body of genetic studies done in Iberia and has been relativized by the authors themselves and questioned by Stephen Oppenheimer, who estimates that much earlier migrations, 5,000 to 10,000 years ago from the Eastern Mediterranean, might also have accounted for the Sephardic estimates. "They are really assuming that they are looking at this migration of Jewish immigrants, but the same lineages could have been introduced in the Neolithic".The same authors in also a recent study (October 2008) attributed most of those same lineages in Iberia and the Balearic Islands as of Phoenician origin. The rest of genetic studies done in Spain estimate the Moorish contribution ranging from 2.5/3.4% to 7.7%.
It's similar to blacks. Moorish converts to Christiaity acquiring status in renaissance Europe like
Johannes Morus (John the Moor) magister camerarius under Frederick II and Conrad.
Frederick, and later his bastard son and successor as king of Sicily, Manfred, employed a standing army of Muslims warrior, housed in their own military colony, the town of Lucera, charged with the border defense towards the Papal state. Lucera a Muslim community in Siciliy was also where the Imperial treausry was kept, for security reasons, under the supervision of the Imperial Chancellor, Johannes Maurus, i.e. "John the Moor" a household slave and magister camerarius under Frederick II and Conrad. Such were the chamberlains of monasteries or cathedrals, who had charge of the finances, gave notice of chapter meetings, and provided the materials necessary for the various services. Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb]
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
You realize it doesn't matter what I think about Judaism. What matters is what Jews Ashkenazi say,
then use quotes of them rather than makng up shyt
and also keep in mind there is a diveristy of opinion within people of Jewsih ancestry and what one person says does not represent all of the people.
Diversity is unimportant. What IS important is which segment gets it's way. At present, the Jewish segment that gets it's way is the one opposed to presenting accurate tracking of Jews in America.
and why would Jews hide the fact that their world population is greater than 13.3 million ?
If you have power you don't have to hide. Also keep in mind many of Jewish background are athiest and many pratice the religion only lightly during holidays. Some Jews are proud of Israel as a concept because it represents not hiding or being pressured to convert to Christianity.
It shows you have more persuasive power if you exaggerate your numbers.
In New York there's about 1.54 million Jews In the whole U.S. about 5.3- 6.6 Israel 5.7 world 13.3
either you have some counter estimates or you are just hyping the Jews and blowing hot air and not even giving estimates
and what about returing to the topic that the Viking were Moors?
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
So exactly where does this factoid based 2% number for US jews come from? Obviously, since Jews have blocked their representation in the US census it does not come from that.
Where the nonsensical 2% number comes from are independent Jewish population articles that have been approved by (1) American Jewish committee, (2) JDL, (3) The ADL, and other Jewish strategic decision making entities.
From, The Jewish Population in The United States, 2011 report, published by The University Of Miami:
In a previous article, we addressed the issue of why we believe our Data Bank estimate is an ov erestimate and why, for example, the 2000-01 National Jewish Population Survey is an underestimate. The Brandeis conference mentioned above was convened in the absence of a decennial national study of the US Jewish population . Without a systematic new national sample survey, utilizing a universally accepted methodology, we have presented above the variety of recent estimates in the past decades. One fact on which all can agree is the following : The share that American Jews represent of the US total population has decreased from an estimated 3.7 percent in the 1930s to about 2 percent currently. This change has occurred be cause the growth of the American Jewish population has not kept pace with the expansion of the US population, which has increased due to greater fertility and immigration than exhibited by American Jews
We would also like to thank Lawrence Grossman and the American Jewish Committee (www.ajc.org) for permission to continue publishing these population articles and the Association for the Social Scientific Study of Jewry (ASSJ)(www.assj.org), The Avraham Harman Institute of Contemporary Jewry at The Hebrew university of Jerusalem (http://icj. huji.ac.il), and The Jewish Federations of North America (JFNA)(www.jewish federations.org) for their co-sponsorship of this endeavor.
So, it appears that the decades long and enduring 2% estimate is the approved number that Jewish propaganda agencies agree offers the minimum amount of risk to Jews in America. Even this minimal report was made to be difficult to cut and paste by it's authors.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: So exactly where does this factoid based 2% number for US jews come from?
According to a study by Hebrew University’s Professor Sergio DellaPergola, the global Jewish population reached 13.75 million in the past year, with an increase of 88,000 people. Israel’s Maariv newspaper published excerpts of the study last week, reporting that one out of every 514 people in the world is Jewish, less than 0.2 percent of mankind.
About 43% of the world’s Jewish community lives in Israel, making Israel the country with the largest Jewish population. The Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics reported on the eve of Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year, 5773, that the total population of Israel in 2012 grew to nearly 8 million. About 73% of the population is native born.
The Israeli Jewish population stands at 5,978,600, up 1.8%; the Arab population numbers at 1,636,600, up 2.4%; and the rest of the population including Christians and non-Jews reached 318,000 people, up 1.3%. Israel’s Jewish population makes up 75% of the state’s total people.
In all, the Jewish state’s population increased by 96,300 people in 2012, a growth rate that did not diverge from the average rate in the past eight years.
Part of Israel’s population increase comes in part of the new immigrants that have arrived to the country. In 2011, Israel welcomed 16,892 new immigrants as citizens, with the largest populations coming from Russia (3,678), followed by Ethiopia (2,666), United States (2,363), Ukraine (2,051) and France (1,775).
If you don't think there are reliable sources and some of these sources say: U.S. pop of Jews is about 5.3- 6.6 million then it's better to take the position of "I don't know" rather than to say that there is more or there is less.
Because assuming there's more is based on nothing at all.
If somebody said there are 6 million currently in the U.S. to say there's double that (and based on nothing) would be claim of huge increase from 6 to 12 million.
And if ther's actually 12 million what difference does that make?
the U.S. population is 314 million
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ We don't know because Jews refuse to be included in the census and identified as Jews. All we have to rely on are Jew controlled propaganda sources, which of course, cannot be trusted. One thing we can be sure of, all Jew controlled estimates are intentional underestimates motivated by past incidents where Jews were rounded up and expelled from over 100 countries.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ We don't know because Jews refuse to be included in the census and identified as Jews. All we have to rely on are Jew controlled propaganda sources, which of course, cannot be trusted. One thing we can be sure of, all Jew controlled estimates are intentional underestimates motivated by past incidents where Jews were rounded up and expelled from over 100 countries.
quote:Originally posted by Narmertot
:I don't believe that Jews are a separate race
the Bureau of the Census is not the source for information on religions such as Christainity, Judaism or Islam
I'm getting tired of the thick
question: If somebody came out with an article that Jews were 7% of the U.S. instead of 2%
if Jews were powerful they would be proud of that
If instead Jews were 7% but they feel they have to hide that it shows they are afraid and lack power, are forced to hide
so your logic doesn't make sense
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ Jews are not a religion. They are a race. Therefore, the census should track their numbers and other stats. You Jews talk out of the sides of your mouths. First you say you are a race, then when you are to be treated as a race you whine and say never mind, we are a religion. But, you are a religion who inherits via the mother. Therefore, you are a race.
LOL, what you really are not a race and not a religion, but psycho.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ Jews are not a religion. They are a race.
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on page 9 of this thread:
quote:Originally posted by Narmertot In spite of their passing themselves off as a separate race...
quote:Originally posted by Narmertot
Now, I don't believe that Jews are a separate race
should I even comment ?
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
First you say you are a race,
do you have a quote or are you having a made up converstaion with yourself?
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ According to their own definition, Jews are not a religion. They are a race. Therefore, the census should track their numbers and other stats. You Jews talk out of the sides of your mouths. First you say you are a race, then when you are to be treated as a race you whine and say never mind, we are a religion. But, you are a religion who inherits via the mother. Therefore, you are a race.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ According to their own definition, Jews are not a religion. They are a race. Therefore, the census should track their numbers and other stats. You Jews talk out of the sides of your mouths. First you say you are a race, then when you are to be treated as a race you whine and say never mind, we are a religion. But, you are a religion who inherits via the mother. Therefore, you are a race.
do you have a quote or are you having a made up conversation with yourself?
Why would Jews be afraid to be recorded as a race on the U.S. census?
Why would they argue they are a race when they are trying not to be included on a census as a race? -doesn't add up at all
Why are you a complete hypocrite and continue to use clown derived -make it up as you going along- logic that doesn't make sense?
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: Kabyle berber 1860 i.e. long after the fall of Moors (blacks) and the advance of Europeans mixing.
I think the people in the 1860 photo may be more mixed with Arabs than Europeans. They were able to avoid and retreat from the Ottomans into the mountains.
Since the 4000 BC, the indigenous peoples of northern Africa (identified by the Romans as Berbers) were pushed back from the coast by successive waves of Phoenician, Roman, Vandal, Byzantine, Arab, Turkish, and, finally, French invaders.
Phoenician traders arrived on the North African coast around 900 BC and established Carthage (in present-day Tunisia) around 800 BC. During the classical period, Berber civilization was already at a stage in which agriculture, manufacturing, trade, and political organization supported several states. Trade links between Carthage and the Berbers in the interior grew, but territorial expansion also resulted in the enslavement or military recruitment of some Berbers and in the extraction of tribute from others.
The Carthaginian state declined because of successive defeats by the Romans in the Punic Wars, and in 146 BC the city of Carthage was destroyed. As Carthaginian power waned, the influence of Berber leaders in the hinterland grew.
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This is a Roman general of some sort, with what we call in America a typical Roman nose. Sorry Charlys.
Massinissa was a Berber like those who were called Tehenou. Roman coins are found in many cultures. He was of the same stock as Gildo "the Moor" (Aguellid or Galadima) the Tuareg name for chief and of the same stock as Firmus and Tacfarinus the latter meaning son of the Afren or Ifren man. i.e. Tuareg.
Greek and Roman portrait statues and coins found in Sabaean, Arab and North African culture represent Romans not - not Africans or African Asiatics .
Picturespam away if you must. it won't change history! Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers: "Old Arab descriptions of "blacks" also reveal that what they meant by "black" is not necessarily what we understand it to mean today. Some medieval Arab writers such as al-Jahiz applied the term "blacks" to practically all peoples darker than the average Arab, and "whites" to peoples lighter than the norm:
"The blacks are more numerous than the whites. The whites at most consist of the people of Persia, Jibal, and Khurasan, the Greeks, Slavs, Franks, and Avars, and some few others, not very numerous; the blacks include the Zanj, Ethiopians, the people of Fazzan, the Berbers, the Copts, and Nubians, the people of Zaghawa, Marw, Sind and India, Qamar and Dabila, China, and Masin... the islands in the seas between China and Africa are full of blacks, such as Ceylon, Kalah, Amal, Zabij, and their islands, as far as India, China, Kabul, and those shores"
Jahiz's inclusion of Indians, Sindhi, and Chinese as "blacks" reinforces the point that color terms taken out of their cultural contexts are too ambiguous to determine the physical characteristics of peoples with much accuracy."
No Jahiz never ever mentioned Chinese being black! Sorry but the Zabij, Kalah, Sin and Masin refer in early Arab sources to the Kunlun lands of Indo -China covered with blacks that were also called called Zang. I am sorry people that lack knowledge about history have interpreted the word Sin as China when in fact for the Arabs like Jahiz and Yaqubi it referred to the land of Java and Indo-China which was covered with blacks called Kam in those days like the lands of Kambujadesa and Funan or Masin!
I said a new batter up please!
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: .
brada you might want to save this set, I made some custom enlargements
Lol! Many of the Kabyles are a lot fairer than the Italian looking people u posted above and we all know why and where they originated don't we -Svenska.
Vandal and Roman North AFrica! Why keep posting photos of mixed peoples who come from Romans, Vandals, and other peoples that only mixed with the Africans called Berbers.
I mean give us a break!
Why not post the Berbers that the Romans and Vandals knew in Kabylia where the Romans and Vandals settled, and the Berbers whose language they adopted.
19th century painting of Berber of Kabyle mountains
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
"Why not post the Berbers and Vandals knew in Kabylia, and whose language they adopted."
what do you mean?
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: "Why not post the Berbers and Vandals knew in Kabylia, and whose language they adopted."
what do you mean?
I had edited what I wrote , because that means nothing obviously.
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
“The population of Vandal North Africa was made up of Vandals, Romans and Moors..... Nevertheless the description of Vandals in the wider of two senses still included some Alans and others conscious of their own non-Vandal origins. The king's title remained 'King of the Vandals and Alans'." From the Book Regna and Gentes The Relationship between Late Antique and Early Medieval, by H. Goetz,: p. 68
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: "Why not post the Berbers and Vandals knew in Kabylia, and whose language they adopted."
what do you mean?
You and your stupid fuking Roman coins. lol
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [QB] ]LOL No come back! A
why would I have to comeback crypto Jews existed and I put up information to that effect already.
But if you want more info, which is easy to get without having to go to white supremacist webistes:
Your first post was incomplete and meant to portray them as powerless victims. Your new post is an improvement somewhat, thanks to pressure from me.
And do you have a problem with white supremacists? You are a supporter of Zionism, remember they are two sides of the same coin.
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: You and your stupid fuking Roman coins. lol
do you think before you open your mouth? "lol"
you are unqualified
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
Says the idiot who posted the Roman coin. lol
quote:do you think before you open your mouth? "lol"
It was obviously tongue-in-cheek doofus. You and your mixing up (literally) of North African history is one big joke. A North African Roman coin is no more accurate than a Roman sculpture of an African. But given your ability to read and comprehend an article explaining why Zionists and Nazis collaborated only to ask why did they collaborate, I'm not surprised the post went over your head. lol
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche:
This is a Roman general of some sort, with what we call in America a typical Roman nose. Sorry Charlys.
^^^ This is another coin of the Numidian berber king Massinissa
This is a coin of Roman Empeor Septimius Severus, he was considered part berber.
You are assuming that the coins depicting Massinissa has a particular type of nose it could not be somebody that had berber ancestry. The have curly hair the Massinissa coin even in afro shape. Perhaps some could be mulattoes
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche:
Massinissa was a Berber like those who were called Tehenou. Roman coins are found in many cultures. He was of the same stock as Gildo "the Moor" (Aguellid or Galadima) the Tuareg name for chief and of the same stock as Firmus and Tacfarinus the latter meaning son of the Afren or Ifren man. i.e. Tuareg.
any book on the history of Africa calls Massinissa a Numidian. Numidia was located in Algeria parts of Tunisia and Libya 3rd to 1st centuries BC, a client state of the NA Roman provices considered to be comprised of berbers
a few coins exist of these berber kings and each king looks different
Syphax
You may not want to call them berber, it doesn't matter.
These coins of Numidian kings of Algeria parts of Tunisia and Libya 3rd to 1st centuries BC looked like they do far before Islam.
That doesn't mean there weren't also people who looked more sahelian or sub saharan around at the time as well.
Sometimes the Numidans get called "Moors" I prefer not to call them that. To me "Moors" should be applied to the much later period people who invaded Iberia, Moorish Spain.
This begins with the Umayyad Caliphate and then progresses to the Almoravid and Almohad. Tariq bin Ali was considered to be a berber and he combined forces with Arabians. Under the command of the Umayyad Caliphateinvaded Iberia in 711
The Almoravids had went further South than the Almoravid converting Sanhaja tribes and conquering Ghana and intermarrying with some of them.
Later in Morocco, the Marinids
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
He's still posting Roman coins. Damn you don't give up! lol
A Lioness produce...
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: A North African Roman coin is no more accurate than a Roman sculpture of an African.
you are making up bullshyt, you don't do any of your own research you just copy other posters like a parrot.mindless cheerleading
and the Romans had an empire including provinces in the Maghreb in case you didn't know they are a part of North African history
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
You call what you do research. LOL!
Yes the first two is more representative of the population. I don't make shyt up troll, thats your job..."secret gassings" and what not remember?
quote:You may not want to call them berber, it doesn't matter.
OMG! But if the debate is about who or what Berbers look like, jackass, it does matter! LMAO!
quote:and the Romans had an empire including provinces in the Maghreb in case you didn't know they are a part of North African history
So Ancient Rome was a mixed/mulatto civilization?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: ]OMG! But if the debate is about who or what Berbers look like, jackass, it does matter! LMAO! [/QB]
no it isn't you stupid piece of shyt, it's about vikings and celts
and the tangent was on Moors
and many scholars say Moors enter written history as the Numidians, but you didn't know this
and are not doing any research of your own research are buzzing around either throwing poo or parroting
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
Your picture spams ("research" LOL!) is all about showing who you think the Berbers are, what they look like, back then. At least try to be honest about your shyt making.
"So Ancient Rome was a mixed/mulatto civilization?"
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
True rep. of Romans at the time.
True rep. of Berbers at the time
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^^^ he put this up, and when dana didn't agree he pertended it was "tongue in cheek"
lying fraud
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: A North African Roman coin is no more accurate than a Roman sculpture of an African.
and the Romans had an empire including provinces in the Maghreb in case you didn't know they are a part of North African history
So Ancient Rome was a mixed/mulatto civilization?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: A North African Roman coin is no more accurate than a Roman sculpture of an African.
and the Romans had an empire including provinces in the Maghreb in case you didn't know they are a part of North African history
So Ancient Rome was a mixed/mulatto civilization?
apart from Egypt this fool can't even name a North African civilization
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
^ LOL! Thought so! Hypocritical swine.
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: "Ancient Egyptian civilisation - mixed. Moorish civilisation - mixed. Greek civilisation not mixed. Roman civilisation - not mixed." - Lioness
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Rome then was primarily white as it is today.
Since several hundred years before Christ the Maghreb has been mixed. You can't easily establish a predominant ethnicity. The civilizations of that period were foreign established and other people were sparcely populated nomads who go over wide distances and are known for integrating various ethnicities,
wheras what some might call the lower portion of North Africa, the Sahel, as it is today is predominantly Tropical West African and other indigenous Africans.
but simpletons don't understand this, too nuanced, not a predicted narrative they have pre made arguments for
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
LOL! As if the Greco-Roman civilisation was "homegrown".
Apart from your Roman coins what evidence do you have that, unlike Rome, you can't "establish" a predominate ethnicity in AE and Carthage?
quote:Since several hundred years before Christ the Maghreb has been mixed.
Same can said of southern Europe simpleton unless youre going to argue that migrations back then went in only one direction.
quote:and are known for integrating various ethnicities,
And Greeks and Romans didn't have sex with others eh? lol
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^ idiot here thinks the Mahgreb and Rome are parallel universes,
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
Thought so.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
True rep. of Romans at the time.
True rep. of Berbers at the time
^^^ he put this up, and when dana didn't agree he pertended it was "tongue in cheek"
lying fraud [/QB]
Skunt
Dana does not have to agree with him. The evidence is right before your lying eyes but your lying tongue will not quit...
Lion!
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
True rep. of Romans at the time.
True rep. of Berbers at the time
^^^ he put this up, and when dana didn't agree he preended it was "tongue in cheek"
lying fraud
Dana does not have to agree with him. The evidence is right before your lying eyes but your lying tongue will not quit...
Lion! [/QB]
Iron you don't undertand what happened. You should be mad at anguishedbeing. He first said that the above image of Massinissa was a true rep berber. Obviously I did not argue with him on that if your dumb ass was following the thread it was me a few posts earlier who had first put up this coin of Massinissa not questioning it.
then dana came in and said it looked Roman not berber
then anguished parrot agreed and tried to pretend that when he originally called it "true rep berber" he was joking.
I then merely pointed out his flip flop
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: LOL! As if the Greco-Roman civilisation was "homegrown".
Apart from your Roman coins what evidence do you have that, unlike Rome, you can't "establish" a predominate ethnicity in AE and Carthage?
quote:Since several hundred years before Christ the Maghreb has been mixed.
Same can said of southern Europe simpleton unless youre going to argue that migrations back then went in only one direction.
quote:and are known for integrating various ethnicities,
And Greeks and Romans didn't have sex with others eh? lol
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
True rep. of Romans at the time.
True rep. of Berbers at the time
^^^ he put this up, and when dana didn't agree he preended it was "tongue in cheek"
lying fraud
Dana does not have to agree with him. The evidence is right before your lying eyes but your lying tongue will not quit...
Lion!
Iron you don't undertand what happened. You should be mad at anguishedbeing. He first said that the above image of Massinissa was a true rep berber. Obviously I did not argue with him on that if your dumb ass was following the thread it was me a few posts earlier who had first put up this coin of Massinissa not questioning it.
then dana came in and said it looked Roman not berber
then anguished parrot agreed and tried to pretend that when he originally called it "true rep berber" he was joking.
I then merely pointed out his flip flop [/QB]
Ok, proceed...
I am outta here.
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: He's still posting Roman coins...
He/she (it) sure is !lol!
hard to imagine any depictions more Roman than the one's the LYin _ss posts. Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
I didn't understand this post either. Was this suppose to be Saint Maurice a Moor? Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^ dana what are you trying to pull I didn't post that
Posted by TRUTH HITMAN (Member # 19500) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: Confusion between then and today
Largest representative of Jews today
Largest representative of Berbers today
THE people you posted belong to the turkish race.
THE Turks conqured north Africa the Levant and Europe all the way to Hungary they killed off all local BLACK inhabitants of Europe. Took over Eygpt,and All of north africa and they enslaved, oppressed the black berbers as well. Now hundreds of years later Turks are claimimg histories that are not theirs. They have adobted the culture and religion of the people they conqured.
Map of the Turkish conquest of the Known world from 1481-19th century
This is the Turkish flag
Looks just like the flag you posted
That is not a TRUE Berber flag it is the flag of the Turkish nation period.
Do some real research please.
This is what ARTHUR KOESTLER a Jewish white man this is what he wrote about the origins of his people
ARTHUR KOESTLER "THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE" page 17
"The large majority of surviving Jews in the world are of Eastern European descent - and thus perhaps mainly of Khazar origin. If so, this would mean that their ancestors came not from the Jordan but from the volga, not from Canaan but from the Caucasus, once believed to be the cradle of the Aryan race; and that genetically they are more closely related to the Hun, uigur, and Magyar tribes than to the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob".
This book traces the history of the ancient Khazar Empire, a major but almost forgotten power in Eastern Europe, which in A.D. 740 converted to Judaism.
THE actual REAL decendants of Hebrews are the American Negro they are the real oppressed Jews.
Here is just some of the prof that I have.
MOORISH WRITER AL Edrisi Of andalusia of Spain wrote in the early part of the 12 th century about the Powwerful Hebrew colony of LamLam.
LamLam was situated about 2 hundred miles West of Timbuktu.
I have tracked down the migrations of the true black hebrews they fled into the following continent.
Europe- Christian Empire Asia- In china the hebrews were called the HATA CLAN Africa- Falashas, ZA DYNASTY in GHANA, Djamena (western Ethiopia), Opala East Central Africa,Cameroon, Angola to Mali
Arabia- Yemrena and Mecca
Those are the areas the hebrews fled into
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche: No Jahiz never ever mentioned Chinese being black! Sorry but the Zabij, Kalah, Sin and Masin refer in early Arab sources to the Kunlun lands of Indo -China covered with blacks that were also called called Zang. I am sorry people that lack knowledge about history have interpreted the word Sin as China when in fact for the Arabs like Jahiz and Yaqubi it referred to the land of Java and Indo-China which was covered with blacks called Kam in those days like the lands of Kambujadesa and Funan or Masin!
I said a new batter up please!
LOL This is correct. Lyinass and may Euronuts try to obfuscate China with Indo-China in attempt to discredit realist scholars. It is a FACT that even the Chinese themselves acknowledged and even had trade relations with black indigenes to their south in Indo-China and in the Indonesian islands.
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
quote:Originally posted by the lyinass,: "Why not post the Berbers and Vandals knew in Kabylia, and whose language they adopted."
what do you mean?
You and your stupid fuking Roman coins. lol
LOL That's because the coins don't show the actual color of the people, only their features. She posts a coin showing a man with an aquiline nose as proof that the Numidians were not black.
Images with color:
Again, this dumb ignoramus denies the FACT that there are black North Africans with such type noses.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti:
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
quote:Originally posted by the lyinass,: "Why not post the Berbers and Vandals knew in Kabylia, and whose language they adopted."
what do you mean?
You and your stupid fuking Roman coins. lol
LOL That's because the coins don't show the actual color of the people, only their features. She posts a coin showing a man with an aquiline nose as proof that the Numidians were not black.
Images with color:
Again, this dumb ignoramus denies the FACT that there are black North Africans with such type noses.
A Tunisian man: Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ LOL, you are real dumb!
Please stop with the worthless photo spams. Cheery picking photos is a wasted endeavour. Even you should be capable of raising above this lowest of levels.
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
^ Indeed, yet every time other people post pictures of more indigenous looking North Africans she accuses them of "cherry picking". Total hypocrite she is.
quote:Originally posted by the lyinass twit: A Tunisian man:
Henry IV the Pious, Duke of Saxony
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