quote:Originally posted by IronLion: What happened to the black Kings of Saudi Arabia?
Nothing happened to them, they're still all there in your head.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Simple Girl:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: What happened to the black Kings of Saudi Arabia?
Nothing happened to them, they're still all there in your head.
You have eyes yet you see not! What is wrong? Macular degeneration? Indeed, that is a big source of eye problem for albinos... Big worry.. LOL!
What happened to the Black Kings of Saudi Arabia? I think they slept one time too often with pink girls like you....
It leads black princes to making strange fruits.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronedLion:
^^^^^Abd Al Aziz Ibn Saud the original King Saud, …and other family members 1911
Abd Al-Aziz ibn Saud,
Iron, what happened? :
Abd Al-Aziz ibn Saud,
Abd Al-Aziz ibn Saud,
Posted by cassiterides (Member # 18409) on :
There have always been two racial types native to Arabia:
The Arabid (a Meditterenean-Caucasoid) racial type:
The Veddoid (Australiod) racial type:
Neither are Negroid (Black).
Blacks (negroids) were only ever confined to sub-sahara africa until slavery.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronedLion:
^^^^^Abd Al Aziz Ibn Saud the original King Saud, …and other family members 1911
Abd Al-Aziz ibn Saud,
Iron, what happened? :
Abd Al-Aziz ibn Saud,
Abd Al-Aziz ibn Saud,
Lyingass
Even Cashitty boy sees the difference. Tell me, you need glasses or pills?
Lion!
Posted by AswaniAswad (Member # 16742) on :
Arabs are not kings and never will be kings.
Africans are the First Monarchy...........
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by AswaniAswad: Arabs are not kings and never will be kings.
Africans are the First Monarchy...........
I should have titled it African Kings of Arabia instead of the Black Kings of Arabia.
But you get the sense? All Blacks come from Africa!
Lion!
Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
Those Saudi men in the old picture are not black. Look at their facial features (thin hooked noses and thin lips), they look Arab.
The low quality image is just distorting their skin tone.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lion - The Saudi are NOT Arabs.
The first Saudi to attempt to regain power after the fall of Dir'iyyah in 1818 was Mishari bin Saud, a brother of the last ruler in Dir'iyyah. Mishari was soon captured by the Egyptians and killed. In 1824, Turki bin Abdullah, another Saudi who had managed to evade capture by the Egyptians, was able to expel Egyptian forces and their local allies from Riyadh and its environs. Turki, a grandson of the first Saudi imam Muhammad bin Saud, is generally regarded as the founder of the second Saudi dynasty and is also the ancestor of the kings of modern-day Saudi Arabia. He made his capital in Riyadh and was able to enlist the services of many relatives who had escaped captivity in Egypt, including his son Faisal.
Sometimes the fake Arabs use the nickname "Turki" to signify their "True" origins. Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Lion - The Saudi are NOT Arabs.
The first Saudi to attempt to regain power after the fall of Dir'iyyah in 1818 was Mishari bin Saud, a brother of the last ruler in Dir'iyyah. Mishari was soon captured by the Egyptians and killed. In 1824, Turki bin Abdullah, another Saudi who had managed to evade capture by the Egyptians, was able to expel Egyptian forces and their local allies from Riyadh and its environs. Turki, a grandson of the first Saudi imam Muhammad bin Saud, is generally regarded as the founder of the second Saudi dynasty and is also the ancestor of the kings of modern-day Saudi Arabia. He made his capital in Riyadh and was able to enlist the services of many relatives who had escaped captivity in Egypt, including his son Faisal.
Sometimes the fake Arabs use the nickname "Turki" to signify their "True" origins.
Do you see the picture opening this thread Mike, are those guys white or black guys in your interpretation?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Lion - The Saudi are NOT Arabs.
The first Saudi to attempt to regain power after the fall of Dir'iyyah in 1818 was Mishari bin Saud, a brother of the last ruler in Dir'iyyah. Mishari was soon captured by the Egyptians and killed. In 1824, Turki bin Abdullah, another Saudi who had managed to evade capture by the Egyptians, was able to expel Egyptian forces and their local allies from Riyadh and its environs. Turki, a grandson of the first Saudi imam Muhammad bin Saud, is generally regarded as the founder of the second Saudi dynasty and is also the ancestor of the kings of modern-day Saudi Arabia. He made his capital in Riyadh and was able to enlist the services of many relatives who had escaped captivity in Egypt, including his son Faisal.
Sometimes the fake Arabs use the nickname "Turki" to signify their "True" origins.
Do you see the picture opening this thread Mike, are those guys white or black guys in your interpretation?
Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
Saudi Royal lineage is haplogroup J1c3d according to a familytreedna project.
This lineage is the most common Arabian male lineage and the male line of the Hashemites.
Saudi Royal family is of Arabian origin.
Posted by cassiterides (Member # 18409) on :
Why on earth are the afrocentric loonies now trying to steal arab identity?
Why would anyone want to be arab?
Posted by -Just Call Me Jari- (Member # 14451) on :
, beats the hell out of me...
quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: Why on earth are the afrocentric loonies now trying to steal arab identity?
Why would anyone want to be arab?
Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: Why on earth are the afrocentric loonies now trying to steal arab identity?
Why would anyone want to be arab?
Nobody is safe from their madness.
Not even the Chinese!
Posted by -Just Call Me Jari- (Member # 14451) on :
^^^^ None of those people look black, its just a B&W Photo which makes their skin Darker..LMAO..
Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: ^^^^ None of those people look black, its just a B&W Photo which makes their skin Darker..LMAO..
True, this guy is probably too dumb to even notice this. IronLion must have a double digit IQ..
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lion - the Turks have ruled Saudi Arabia for a long time. Currently the only Black ruler in Arabia is Qaboos ibn Sa'id Al Sa'id of Oman.
In Saudi Arabia the true Black Arabs have been relegated to tribal lands, and they are constantly at war with the ruling Turks.
There are about 150 major tribes in Saudi Arabia.
HERE ARE A FEW ARTICLES.
The Saudi Separation Fence
Two months ago, the Saudi government began to build a fence along its border with Yemen in an attempt to separate the residents along both sides of the border. The border between the two countries was set out in the 2000 Jeddah border treaty, which included a 20 kilometer-wide neutral zone as a strip of grazing land permitted to both sides. The building of the fence enraged the Shi'ite Wayilah tribe on the Yemenite side, which even before its construction had objected to the location of the border.
The Wayilah tribe owns approximately 200 military vehicles and thousands of rifles, and in the past has waged fierce battles against the Saudi Yam tribe. In 2000, it battled the Yemenite Dahm tribe, which is said to have the support of the Saudi government.
The late Wayilah tribal head Sheikh bin Shag'e, who died in 2002 under mysterious circumstances, had explained that he had in his possession 240 year-old documents proving the tribe's ownership of the lands included in the Jeddah treaty. Saudi Arabia tried to pacify the Wayilah, giving 500 of them Saudi citizenship, but the tribesmen nevertheless rioted on various occasions, including when the Saudi authorities arrested a Shi'ite sheikh of the tribe and shut down his mosque.
Saudi Arabia appears to be taking the lead in Yemen's effort to crush Huthi rebels, in the largest Saudi military operation since the 1990 Gulf War.
Saudi jets, helicopters and artillery continued to attack Huthi positions along the Yemeni frontier early this week, one month after Saudi forces struck back after rebels carried crossed the border in a brief but deadly raid, according to Saudi press reports.
On Sunday, Prince Nayef bin Abdul Aziz, the deputy prime minister, emphasised that the goal of the biggest Saudi military mobilisation since the 1990-91 Gulf War is protecting Saudi sovereignty, not encroaching on Yemen.
Saudi Arabia "will not allow anyone to gain a foothold on its land," he said.
The Utaybah tribe has traditionally lived just north of the present Riyadh-Mecca highway in the desert between the Saudi capital, Riyadh, and Jeddah on the Red Sea. The residence of the tribal leader is Afif, a small town of 90,000 about 600 kilometres West of Riyadh. Many Utaybah are found in Riyadh, Jeddah and as far away as Kuwait. The Utaybah tribe has historically had an important role in the Saudi army dating to the early days of the reign of Abdul Aziz Al Saud, founder of the present ruling dynasty. The Utaybah tribe is composed of three major branches: the Barga (the largest branch), the Rwog, and the Banu Saad (Sons of Saad). Each of these branches are divided into many clans and families.
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: ^^^^ None of those people look black, its just a B&W Photo which makes their skin Darker..LMAO..
Jari, consider this:
quote: The complexion of the Sulaym tribes of al Harra and the Hejaz or northwest Arabia is said by al Jahiz to be “black” as the volcanic lava of the region.
Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
The Sultan of Oman has recent Swahili ancestry from Zanzibar. A poor example.
He is not a fullblood Arab.
Most Saudi royals are purer than him.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Lion - The Saudi are NOT Arabs.
The first Saudi to attempt to regain power after the fall of Dir'iyyah in 1818 was Mishari bin Saud, a brother of the last ruler in Dir'iyyah. Mishari was soon captured by the Egyptians and killed. In 1824, Turki bin Abdullah, another Saudi who had managed to evade capture by the Egyptians, was able to expel Egyptian forces and their local allies from Riyadh and its environs. Turki, a grandson of the first Saudi imam Muhammad bin Saud, is generally regarded as the founder of the second Saudi dynasty and is also the ancestor of the kings of modern-day Saudi Arabia. He made his capital in Riyadh and was able to enlist the services of many relatives who had escaped captivity in Egypt, including his son Faisal.
Sometimes the fake Arabs use the nickname "Turki" to signify their "True" origins.
Do you see the picture opening this thread Mike, are those guys white or black guys in your interpretation?
Mike, is the guy above black or white?
Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
Ancient South Arabian sculptures:
Modern day descendants of Southern Arabians Sabaens:
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Manu - give it up. As I have told you before, you are merely a mixed-race mulatto Turk mutt, whom I affectionately refer to as "Sand Niggers".
You have no history, you have no people, other than the other Sand Niggers like yourself.
You are NOT Arabs. You are NOT Egyptians. You are NOT Persians. You are NOT Berbers.
You ARE mutt Sand Niggers.
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
^ you are white.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
The Rashaida migrated from Saudi Arabia around 200 years ago, the Bashari belong to the nomadic Beja tribe who have been wandering the Red Sea hills for 6000 years, not answering to any central government until the early 1990s. Both tribes wear their traditional clothes like a uniform.
Shalatein, South of Hurghada
Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
I am not Arabian you fool, I just hate when people distort history so I had to show you the real deal.
Lay down the crack pipe.
Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
Real Arabians
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
Its all for the:
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
A group of forcibly displaced people in north Yemen. Many are desperately in need of aid.
Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
more Real Arabians - no recent slave descendants or other false Arabians Mike posts
Posted by -Just Call Me Jari- (Member # 14451) on :
Iron I don't deny that there were Black Arabs esp. in the South but when Al-Jahiz wrote that it was the 9th century A.D the Modern Nation of Saudi Arabia and the House of Saud was formed after WW2, I seriously doubt the House of Saud was black.
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: ^^^^ None of those people look black, its just a B&W Photo which makes their skin Darker..LMAO..
Jari, consider this:
quote: The complexion of the Sulaym tribes of al Harra and the Hejaz or northwest Arabia is said by al Jahiz to be “black” as the volcanic lava of the region.
Posted by -Just Call Me Jari- (Member # 14451) on :
Not all of Mikes Arabs are Slave Decendants.
^^^^ The Gulf of Aden, obviously Migrations occured...
Both Ways!!
quote:Originally posted by Manu: more Real Arabians - no recent slave descendants or other false Arabians Mike posts
Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
Indigenous South Arabians
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Manu: I am not Arabian you fool, I just hate when people distort history so I had to show you the real deal.
Lay down the crack pipe.
I say that you ARE indeed a lying Sand Nigger Turk mutt.
Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
Real Arabians
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Manu you fool, don't you think that people notice that you all look alike?
Turk Mulattoes and Quadroons.
Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
Real Arabians
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Ha, ha, ha ha.
What that didn't stop you?
Ha, ha, ha ha.
A true degenerate.
Damn fool, do you think that you're the first lying Sand Nigger that I had to deal with?
Ooh we're Arabs - bullsh1t!
Ooh we're Egyptians - bullsh1t!
Ooh we're Berbers - bullsh1t!
Ooh we're Persians - bullsh1t!
What you ARE is a bunch of lying Mutts.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronedLion:
^^^^^Abd Al Aziz Ibn Saud the original King Saud, …and other family members 1911
Abd Al-Aziz ibn Saud,
Iron, what happened? :
Abd Al-Aziz ibn Saud,
Abd Al-Aziz ibn Saud,
Lyingass
Even Cashitty boy sees the difference. Tell me, you need glasses or pills?
Lion!
Ironed, what do you mean difference? All the above, the one you posted and the one I posted, are photos of Abd Al-Aziz ibn Saud The only difference is he was more tanned in one of the photos. It's all the same person, what's wrong with you?
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Abd Al Aziz Ibn Saud the original King Saud, …and other family members 1911
^^^^^Abd Al Aziz Ibn Saud the original King Saud, …and other family members 1911
Abd Al-Aziz ibn Saud,
Iron, what happened? :
Abd Al-Aziz ibn Saud,
Abd Al-Aziz ibn Saud,
Lyingass
Even Cashitty boy sees the difference. Tell me, you need glasses or pills?
Lion!
Ironed, what do you mean difference? All the above, the one you posted and the one I posted, are photos of Abd Al-Aziz ibn Saud The only difference is he was more tanned in one of the photos. It's all the same person, what's wrong with you?
Really Dunce? Then point out Abd Al Aziz ibn Saud in the picture I posted.
After that point out which one of you pictures if Abdulah bin Abd Al Azziz bin Saud, and the one who was known as Abd Al Azziz bin Saud. There are two different people in your pictures though your myopic albino eyes are challenged, as usual.
You are seemingly confused by names and images...
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Manu: Real Arabians
blah..blah...baaaa...baaa... ...
And how come these are your Kings, and original state founders:
The Black African/Arab Founders of Saudi Arabia...
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: Iron I don't deny that there were Black Arabs esp. in the South but when Al-Jahiz wrote that it was the 9th century A.D the Modern Nation of Saudi Arabia and the House of Saud was formed after WW2, I seriously doubt the House of Saud was black.
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: ^^^^ None of those people look black, its just a B&W Photo which makes their skin Darker..LMAO..
Jari, consider this:
quote: The complexion of the Sulaym tribes of al Harra and the Hejaz or northwest Arabia is said by al Jahiz to be “black” as the volcanic lava of the region.
You read about the description of the Sulaym by Jahiz.
You know of the famous tribe of the Rashaida.
Yet you doubt they were Black Africans, even when you are shown a true picture of the Great Father of the original house of Saud and his brothers and cousins...
Well, your opinion remains yours, not mine.
I deal with reality and irrefutable evidence. No half baked christian apologist opinion for me. A true Muur deals with science.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
The real deal!
Prince Bandar was born in Saudi Arabia on March 2, 1949, at Taif, the summer capital of the Kingdom, the son of His Royal Highness Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud, the Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Defense and Aviation, and Inspector-General. He is married to Princess Haifa Bint Faisal. He has four sons and four daughters
have you learned anything? Some old dark low quality photos can be misleading perhaps?
Please apologize to the lioness for your error,
thank you.
.
Posted by Swenet (Member # 17303) on :
@ Manu
I have a hard time figuring out how you get to decide who are indigenous Arabians and who are descendants of slaves. What are your criteria for coming to your conclusions, I mean, do you just type in Arabian, and post whatever comes up?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: The Sauds
- Abdul Ibn Aziz Al Saud
Gangsters!
Ironed, why are you so dumb?
Above is Abdul Aziz ibn Saud (1876- 1953) as a middle aged man, about 40
again:
Below is a photo of him, the exact same person, later in life. heavier in weight and in his '60s:
Abdul Aziz ibn Saud pictured in various stages of his life at the bottom of the following website page:
have you learned anything? Some old dark low quality photos can be misleading perhaps?
baa..baa..baaa... .
Dunce you are getting schooled. Keep studying the pictures I posted. Perhaps the light will come into the darkness you call your head....
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
The Black Kings of Arabia:
Sa'ad Ibn Abdul Rahman the only full-blood brother of Ibn Saud, the original Saud
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: The Black Kings of Arabia:
Sa'ad Ibn Abdul Rahman the only full-blood brother of Ibn Saud, the original Saud
King Saud bin Abdul Aziz, the heir and successor to Abdul Aziz bin Abdul Rahman
will the beatdown never cease?
Posted by KING (Member # 9422) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: The Black Kings of Arabia:
Sa'ad Ibn Abdul Rahman the only full-blood brother of Ibn Saud, the original Saud
Not getting involved in this Arguement between you and Lioness. Just wanted to aay This man looks like an Ethiopian. He could be from any country in the Horn.
Now I may not agree that All the Saudi kings were Black, but this man seems like he could easily be African.
Peace
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Sa'ad Ibn Abdul Rahman the only full-blood brother of Ibn Saud, the original Saud. He was killed in the battle of Kinzaan against the Ajman tribe in 1916.
this is a good thread because Mike does the same thing, uses dark very early photos to try to pretend these folks like these were Negroes
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
And now we have the father of Abdul Al Aziz bin Rahman bin Saud:
This is Rahman bin Saud 1850 - 1928! The root of Abdul Al Aziz al Saud
Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Prince Bandar the true Heir of the house of Saud and Nelson Mandela. Feel the love?
Your agenda is now exposed:
Bandar bin Sultan
For those who know him, Bandar has grown up unhappy and deprived of any real fatherly love. His mother was a slave girl of Sudanese origin, which caused his father to steer clear of him. Because of the status of his mother, his father, Defence Minister Sultan has for a long time denied that Bandar was his son. So intense was Sultan's irrational behaviour that he thought that Bandar would grow up with a slave mentality. Sultan only refrained from disowning Bandar as a result of King Faisal's intervention.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: baa..baa..baaa.. this is a good thread because ... uses dark very early photos ...baaa baaa..baaa..
So once "early" they were dark.. their pictures were dark..., and now they became pink?
Lionese, you are the class moron!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
^^^yes yet another Arab.
Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
IronLion you have been exposed.
Stop trying to pass off slave descendants as real Arabians. They are new comers to the peninsula, who came there against their will.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
The original Sauds:
1911
Manu I hope you see my point now:
quote:Originally posted by Manu: [QUOTE] [qb] ...
His pure Saudi half siblings:
Fahd bin Sultan
Khalid bin Sultan
Some of his close relatives:
Mohammed bin Fahd
Sultan bin Fahd
Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
The same guy in the B&W photo but now in a higher quality color photograph:
or a higher resolution B&W photo:
Clearly non-African.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Manu: The same guy in the B&W photo but now in a higher quality color photograph:
or a higher resolution B&W photo:
Clearly non-African.
Point him out in this picture:
Make my day! Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
They look like Caucasians in poor lightening. Their features don't look African.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: The original Sauds:
1911
Manu I hope you see my point now! May your eyes and conscience be the judge..
quote:Originally posted by Manu: [QUOTE] [qb] ...
His pure Saudi half siblings:
Fahd bin Sultan
Khalid bin Sultan
Some of his close relatives:
Mohammed bin Fahd
Sultan bin Fahd
And the above? Do you see my point???
Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
I am going to play along..
Please name the ''Turkish'' wives. [edit typo]
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Manu: I am going to play along..
Please name the ''Turkish'' wifes.
Is that the answer to my humble queries?
Do you see my point now?
Do you realize who the slavic-immigrants were?
Look at the picture essay you made above and answer my humble questions repeated here...
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: And now we have the father of Abdul Al Aziz bin Rahman bin Saud:
This is Rahman bin Saud 1850 - 1928! The root of Abdul Al Aziz al Saud
Posted by Manu (Member # 18974) on :
Again..name the Turkish or Slavic wives in the Saud family.
Posted by Who's Your Daddy? (Member # 6729) on :
DIE BITCHES DIE
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Manu: Again..name the Turkish or Slavic wives in the Saud family.
You are dismissed if that is all you are now reduced to whinning....
You were so gaddam sure of your Turkic pink ass initially.
Now you are hit with evidence, you are asking me to show you the Turkic wife.
Well, check up your Turkic ass and you will see the wife!
Of course you know the Turkic and the Slavic wives of those black Arabians.
Bought in Syria, some nameless Circassian woman or Slavic woman, renamed Amina or Fathima.
But my query to you... who is the real King of Arabia?
Observe your photo essay below very carefully:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: The original Sauds:
1911
Manu I hope you see my point now! May your eyes and conscience be the judge..
quote:Originally posted by Manu: [QUOTE] [qb] ...
His pure Saudi half siblings:
Fahd bin Sultan
Khalid bin Sultan
Some of his close relatives:
Mohammed bin Fahd
Sultan bin Fahd
And the above? Do you see my point???
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: The Black Kings of Arabia:
Sa'ad Ibn Abdul Rahman the only full-blood brother of Ibn Saud, the original Saud
King Saud bin Abdul Aziz, the heir and successor to Abdul Aziz bin Abdul Rahman
Be careful, Lyin_ss might post a lightened up version from a different site.lol!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
^^^^^be careful, if you post ANY other photos of
King Saud bin Abdul Aziz (1953-64) eldest surving son of
King Abdul-Aziz of Saudi Arabia (Ibn Saud, the first monarch of Saudi Arabia) Ironedlion's picture tricks will become apparent. Go to Saudi Arabia and try to peddle this nonsense.
These guys are a bunch of decandent bastards anyway.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: The Black Kings of Arabia:
Sa'ad Ibn Abdul Rahman the only full-blood brother of Ibn Saud, the original Saud
King Saud bin Abdul Aziz, the heir and successor to Abdul Aziz bin Abdul Rahman
Be careful, Lyin_ss might post a lightened up version from a different site.lol!
Well as you can see, I shut her and Manu down when I produced the entire family album...
They cannot argue with pictures, or maybe the loonies really think they can. Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Manu:
quote: ...
His pure Saudi half siblings:
Some of his close relatives:
Mohammed bin Fahd
Sultan bin Fahd
And the above? Do you see my point???
Yes - I think most of us already have seen what a few concubines can do to the rulers of a people.
Surname al Turki
al Turki
al Turki
Maybe someone besides myself will want to check into why so many of the ruling class round the modern Arabian peninsula have the surname "al Turki."
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Sa'ad Ibn Abdul Rahman the only full-blood brother of Ibn Saud, the original Saud. He was killed in the battle of Kinzaan against the Ajman tribe in 1916.
this is a good thread because Mike does the same thing, uses dark very early photos to try to pretend these folks like these were Negroes
Actually thats your word Lyin_ss. Most people don't call dark skinned African looking people Negroes. But obviously you do.
Let's try to stop lightening up photos these people weren't named ibn Saud for nothing.
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche: [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness: [qb] Sa'ad Ibn Abdul Rahman the only full-blood brother of Ibn Saud, the original Saud. He was killed in the battle
This man reflects his Bakr bin Wa'il ancestors, just like their brethren Taghlib bin Wa'il of the Dawasir belonged to tall black and beautiful and ARAB inhabitants of Yemamah in central Arabia. Daawasir were not long ago the "tallest" and "blackest of the Arabs".
I personally wish they would have chosen better looking concubines. Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: [ Abdul Aziz ibn Saud (1876- 1953) [/qb]
I
Abdul Aziz ibn Saud (1876- 1953)
[/qb][/QUOTE]
Oromo (Galla Ethiopian) royalty
i don't know if someone is confusing the many abdul azziz men in the Saudi royal family. But what is certain is that the original Saudi ones weren't fair at all.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Apparently none of you realize some white people have the ability to tan:
How do they do it? Sun tan lotion you say. Yes today that's how they do it. While some use an artifical tanning product most don't becasue that is not perfected and it makes them look too orange. Most folk of the white persuasion, as you will notice, use sun tan lotion which does not color the skin at all, it just regulates the sun exposure so that the person browns from the natural melanin their body produces as with the man above. Lying in the sun on a beach is not something that is traditional and doing it with no protection it is not advisable even for Muurs. Think of sun tan lotion as a Jimmy hat for the skin. The fact that certain white people who tan use sun tan lotion can get tanned means that they can also tan without sun tan lotion. Sun tan lotion is just a covenience. Without it the person would have to go out the first day for only a few minutes and then day by day increase the minutes until tanned. This, although tedious, would avoid being burned compared to a sudden prolonged exposure. If they got the tanned it would be an ongoing browned complexion if they remained in given environment. So use your brains, these Sauds were not negroes. Were they white? Not necessarily some would not find the sterotypes "black" or "white" sufficient to categorize them and many other people of the world. even awlaadberry knows better than to jump on this three wheeled bandwagon Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Manu: Again..name the Turkish or Slavic wives in the Saud family.
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: The original Sauds:
1911
Manu I hope you see my point now! May your eyes and conscience be the judge..
quote:Originally posted by Manu: [QUOTE] [qb] ...
His pure Saudi half siblings:
Fahd bin Sultan
Khalid bin Sultan
Some of his close relatives:
Mohammed bin Fahd
Sultan bin Fahd
And the above? Do you see my point???
“…before evening Ibn Saud had sent camels post haste to fetch him back. He called Shalub to him, sat him down beside him and after talking with him for a while sent him to his house. When Shalub arrived he found waiting for him as a present from Ibn Saud a white-skinned and exquisitely desirable Georgian slave-girl, who was beautiful but, for he was past his prime, made his life a burden.’ Lord of Arabia ibn Saud an intimate study of a King . "
From the biography - Lord of Arabia: Ibn Saud, An intimate Study of a King, by Harold C. Armstrong
A 19th century Dictionary of Islam states of the trade in the Arabian peninsula:. “the female white slave is kept solely for the master’s sensual gratification and is sold when he is tired of her, and so she passes from master to master a very wreck of womanhood.”
Maybe someone aside from myself would like to research which concubine birthed which ruler. Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche: “…before evening Ibn Saud had sent camels post haste to fetch him back. He called Shalub to him, sat him down beside him and after talking with him for a while sent him to his house. When Shalub arrived he found waiting for him as a present from Ibn Saud a white-skinned and exquisitely desirable Georgian slave-girl, who was beautiful but, for he was past his prime, made his life a burden.’ Lord of Arabia ibn Saud an intimate study of a King . "
From the biography - Lord of Arabia: Ibn Saud, An intimate Study of a King, by Harold C. Armstrong
Maybe someone aside from myself would like to research which concubine birthed which ruler. [/QB]
"Behold, I have sent you Hanya, the commissioner of the archers, with merchandise in order to have beautiful concubines, i.e. weavers; silver, gold, garments, turquoises, all sorts of precious stones, chairs of ebony, as well as all good things, worth 160 deben. In total: forty concubines - the price of every concubine is forty of silver. Therefore, send very beautiful concubines without blemish." Amenhotep III ordered forty girls from Milkilu, a Canaanite prince, paying 40 kit of silver for each:
^^^dana, comments?
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Apparently none of you realize some white people have the ability to tan:
How do they do it? Sun tan lotion you say. Yes today that's how they do it. While some use an artifical tanning product most don't because that is not perfected and it makes them look too orange. Most folk of the white persuasion, as you will notice, use sun tan lotion which does not color the skin at all, it just regulates the sun exposure so that the person browns from the natural melanin their body produces as with the man above. Lying in the sun on a beach is not something that is traditional and doing it with no protection it is not advisable even for Muurs. Think of sun tan lotion as a Jimmy hat for the skin. The fact that certain white people who tan use sun tan lotion can get tanned means that they can also tan without sun tan lotion. Sun tan lotion is just a covenience. Without it the person would have to go out the first day for only a few minutes and then day by day increase the minutes until tanned. This, although tedious, would avoid being burned compared to a sudden prolonged exposure. If they got the tanned it would be an ongoing browned complexion if they remained in given environment. So use your brains, these Sauds were not negroes. Were they white? Not necessarily some would not find the sterotypes "black" or "white" sufficient to categorize them and many other people of the world. even awlaadberry knows better than to jump on this three wheeled bandwagon
Speak for yourself Lyin_ss, not everybody lives in Sweden and is that naive not to know that many Eurasiatic people tan. But some tanned people are born that way - OBVIOUSLY.
Man of the Bin Samaal (Somali)
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche: “…before evening Ibn Saud had sent camels post haste to fetch him back. He called Shalub to him, sat him down beside him and after talking with him for a while sent him to his house. When Shalub arrived he found waiting for him as a present from Ibn Saud a white-skinned and exquisitely desirable Georgian slave-girl, who was beautiful but, for he was past his prime, made his life a burden.’ Lord of Arabia ibn Saud an intimate study of a King . "
From the biography - Lord of Arabia: Ibn Saud, An intimate Study of a King, by Harold C. Armstrong
Maybe someone aside from myself would like to research which concubine birthed which ruler.
"Behold, I have sent you Hanya, the commissioner of the archers, with merchandise in order to have beautiful concubines, i.e. weavers; silver, gold, garments, turquoises, all sorts of precious stones, chairs of ebony, as well as all good things, worth 160 deben. In total: forty concubines - the price of every concubine is forty of silver. Therefore, send very beautiful concubines without blemish." Amenhotep III ordered forty girls from Milkilu, a Canaanite prince, paying 40 kit of silver for each:
^^^dana, comments? [/QB]
On what Lyin_ss, I think Canaanites (Banu Kinaanah) and women of the Caucasus were and are two different peoples.
What would you like me to comment on? Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: ^^^^^be careful, if you post ANY other photos of
King Saud bin Abdul Aziz (1953-64) eldest surving son of
King Abdul-Aziz of Saudi Arabia (Ibn Saud, the first monarch of Saudi Arabia) Ironedlion's picture tricks will become apparent. Go to Saudi Arabia and try to peddle this nonsense.
These guys are a bunch of decandent bastards anyway.
Why so frustrated and angry Lyin_ss, as you can see the concubines one out in the area of phenotype of modern Saudi rulers.
BTW - do women still live in Saudi Arabia, because personally I wouldn't take that kind of risk of going over there?
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by Manu: IronLion you have been exposed.
Stop trying to pass off slave descendants as real Arabians. They are new comers to the peninsula, who came there against their will.
you can say that again. ALL OF THEM. . “the female white slave is kept solely for the master’s sensual gratification and is sold when he is tired of her, and so she passes from master to master a very wreck of womanhood.” 19th century DICTIONARY OF ISLAM
Everybody knows that to be the son of a white slave or a white anything is more valuable today among Middle Easterners than a black or sumr one. The same goes for Egypt -
"Samara, or "Darkie", traditionally a term of endearment, has today taken on pejorative connotations in contemporary Egypt. The ugly forces of "shadism" are also at work in the country. Shadism, as a social and politico-economic occurrence was, and perhaps still is, pervasive in the Caribbean and among African Americans. Lighter-skinned blacks, who presumably had a greater infusion of white blood have been considered socially superior to darker, full-blooded blacks...." A question of colour
14-08-2002
8 - 14 August 2002 Issue No. 598
Cairo, AL-AHRAM
This is too bad but its not going to change who the original Arabs and dynastic Egyptians were related to and what they looked like.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
If we look at your last point that slavery of Europeans . Then why bother trying to argue that anyone in the house of Saud is black?European slaves go back to the 8th and 9th century. If you apply this logic the whole premise of the thread that Ibn Saud and his brothers are the "Black Kings of Arabis" is rendered completlely null and void, mulattoes at best.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Look at this, actor George Hamilton
all we need do is out him back in a time machine out a keffiyeh on his head, tell him to take on a mean look, take a picture with an old camera and, shazam, dana dane and Ironedlion will be trying to sell him as a black Arab
real, mofo'ing talk
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Look at this, actor George Hamilton
all we need do is out him back in a time machine out a keffiyeh on his head, tell him to take on a mean look, take a picture with an old camera and, shazam, .....
Really?
Original Saud
The difference is clear!
A picture is worth a thousand words! Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: If we look at your last point that slavery of Europeans . Then why bother trying to argue that anyone in the house of Saud is black?European slaves go back to the 8th and 9th century. If you apply this logic the whole premise of the thread that Ibn Saud and his brothers are the "Black Kings of Arabis" is rendered completlely null and void, mulattoes at best.
Oh was that your premise Lyin _ss. Sorry i missed that. 'cause they certainly is some mulattos today although it looks like the mulattoish is 'bout to be bred out of them as well. Posted by AswaniAswad (Member # 16742) on :
Arabs those of saudi arabia and yemen are really tied to people of the horn I would bet they are related. I guess you can say that arabia and the horn are one
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by AswaniAswad: Arabs those of saudi arabia and yemen are really tied to people of the horn I would bet they are related. I guess you can say that arabia and the horn are one
Correction - only some people in Saudi Arabia are "related" to modern peoples of the Horn. Many are not.
The point is west Arabia was considered part of Africa until the 19th century, while most of Central Arabia was considered part of Bilad es Sudan in the time of early Syrian writers. The people of African Asiatic speech and culture were not Syrians and were an extension of AFricans of the Mesolithic Neolithc and Bronze Ages into Arabia.
Sorry if this information hurts some people, and that black people have always and do trade slaves. Posted by kikuyu2 (Member # 19316) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: And now we have the father of Abdul Al Aziz bin Rahman bin Saud:
This is Rahman bin Saud 1850 - 1928! The root of Abdul Al Aziz al Saud
Look at the the title:black kings of Arabia.Ironlion killed this thread showing us an unmistakable HOA type as being the progenitor of the whole royal line. Further denial is just spam. Fyi,I specifically remember seeing smth about them being actually black Jews.The info came out in the late 60s and their behaviour actually bears out this contention.
Posted by typeZeiss (Member # 18859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: A group of forcibly displaced people in north Yemen. Many are desperately in need of aid.
Those people are Hibashi (Ethiopian) they are called Akhdam and are the descendants of the Ethiopians who ruled over Southern Arabia for Hundreds of years.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by kikuyu2:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: And now we have the father of Abdul Al Aziz bin Rahman bin Saud:
This is Rahman bin Saud 1850 - 1928! The root of Abdul Al Aziz al Saud
Look at the the title:black kings of Arabia.Ironlion killed this thread showing us an unmistakable HOA type as being the progenitor of the whole royal line. Further denial is just spam. Fyi,I specifically remember seeing smth about them being actually black Jews.The info came out in the late 60s and their behaviour actually bears out this contention.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^Ignoring the clone Lionese.
Here is one of the black kings of Oman...
Faisal bin Turki 1888 - 1913 Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ^Ignoring the clone Lionese.
Here is one of the black kings of Oman...
Faisal bin Turki 1888 - 1913
Taimur son of Faisal 1913 - 1932 Posted by kikuyu22 (Member # 19561) on :
quote:Originally posted by kikuyu2:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: And now we have the father of Abdul Al Aziz bin Rahman bin Saud:
This is Rahman bin Saud 1850 - 1928! The root of Abdul Al Aziz al Saud
Look at the the title:black kings of Arabia.Ironlion killed this thread showing us an unmistakable HOA type as being the progenitor of the whole royal line. Further denial is just spam. Fyi,I specifically remember seeing smth about them being actually black Jews.The info came out in the late 60s and their behaviour actually bears out this contention.
I found that site! It explains how the Brits invented Wahhabism, (typical subtle Anglo-Jewish manoeuvre,btw)to weaken the moderate Ottoman empire.
quote:
But most important was the strategy to “insert heresies into Muslims’ creedal tenets and then criticize Islam for being a religion of terror.” To this purpose, Hempher located a particularly corrupt individual by the name of Mohammed Ibn Adbul Wahhab.
To understand the brand of fanaticism that Wahhabism inculcated, it is first necessary to recognize that Islam called upon all Muslims, regardless of their race or nationality, to see themselves as brothers in faith. The killing of another Muslim was strictly forbidden.
However, as part of their strategy of Divide and Conquer, the British hoped to pit the Arab Muslims against their Turkish brothers. The only way to do so was to find a loophole in Islamic law whereby the Arabs could declare the Turks as apostates. http://firstlightforum.com/?p=5987 It seems there is strong evidence revealing the House of Saud are Iraqi Jews masquerading as pious Muslims while they deliberately keep their subjects ignorant and poor.
quote:
That Jewish Ancestor of the SAUDI FAMILY, (MORDAKHAI), sought shelter in a farm called at that time AL-MALIBEED-GHUSAIBA near AL-ARID, which is called at our present time : AL-RIYADH. http://web.archive.org/web/20040623140902/http://www.fortunecity.com/boozers/bridge/632/history.html An extremely interesting read that doesn't necessarily conflict with the Saudis true black origins. The question for serious researchers is: are there still remnant black Jews in Iraq?
Posted by kikuyu22 (Member # 19561) on :
quote:Originally posted by kikuyu22:
quote:Originally posted by kikuyu2:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: And now we have the father of Abdul Al Aziz bin Rahman bin Saud:
This is Rahman bin Saud 1850 - 1928! The root of Abdul Al Aziz al Saud
Look at the the title:black kings of Arabia.Ironlion killed this thread showing us an unmistakable HOA type as being the progenitor of the whole royal line. Further denial is just spam. Fyi,I specifically remember seeing smth about them being actually black Jews.The info came out in the late 60s and their behaviour actually bears out this contention.
I found that site! It explains how the Brits invented Wahhabism, (typical subtle Anglo-Jewish manoeuvre,btw)to weaken the moderate Ottoman empire.
quote:
But most important was the strategy to “insert heresies into Muslims’ creedal tenets and then criticize Islam for being a religion of terror.” To this purpose, Hempher located a particularly corrupt individual by the name of Mohammed Ibn Adbul Wahhab.
To understand the brand of fanaticism that Wahhabism inculcated, it is first necessary to recognize that Islam called upon all Muslims, regardless of their race or nationality, to see themselves as brothers in faith. The killing of another Muslim was strictly forbidden.
However, as part of their strategy of Divide and Conquer, the British hoped to pit the Arab Muslims against their Turkish brothers. The only way to do so was to find a loophole in Islamic law whereby the Arabs could declare the Turks as apostates. http://firstlightforum.com/?p=5987 It seems there is strong evidence revealing the House of Saud are Iraqi Jews masquerading as pious Muslims while they deliberately keep their subjects ignorant and poor.
quote:
That Jewish Ancestor of the SAUDI FAMILY, (MORDAKHAI), sought shelter in a farm called at that time AL-MALIBEED-GHUSAIBA near AL-ARID, which is called at our present time : AL-RIYADH. http://web.archive.org/web/20040623140902/http://www.fortunecity.com/boozers/bridge/632/history.html An extremely interesting read that doesn't necessarily conflict with the Saudis true black origins. The question for serious researchers is: are there still remnant black Jews in Iraq?
Here is world famous researcher Wayne Madsen on the matter. He came out with a groundbreaking book in 2001 about Rwanda,showing how the whole Tutsi massacre was actually the other way-Tutsis killing Hutus and how the Clinton era White House basically pushed Kagame and Museveni to invade the Eastern DRC causing at least 4 mn deaths. In other words,I trust his meticulously researched findings,and he has arrived at a similar conclusion:
quote:
Much of the information is gleaned from the memoirs of a “Mr. Humfer,” (as spelled in the DIA report, “Mr. Hempher” as spelled the historical record) a British spy who used the name “Mohammad,” claimed to be an Azeri who spoke Turkish, Persian, and Arabic and who made contact with Wahhab in the mid-18th century with a view of creating a sect of Islam that would eventually bring about an Arab revolt against the Ottomans and pave the way for the introduction of a Jewish state in Palestine. Humfer’s memoirs are recounted by the Ottoman writer and admiral Ayyub Sabri Pasha in his 1888 work, “The Beginning and Spreading of Wahhabism.” http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2011/10/26/the-doenmeh-the-middle-easts-most-whispered-secret-part-ii.html Posted by Marc Washington (Member # 10979) on :
. .
The ancient African stock before Christ that incursive white tribes co-habited with that produced today’s Arabs:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: And now we have the father of Abdul Al Aziz bin Rahman bin Saud:
This is Rahman bin Saud 1850 - 1928! The root of Abdul Al Aziz al Saud
I've been meaning to ask for quite a while;do you have the original source for that photo? Its extremely important. Thanks in advance.
Posted by .Charlie Bass. (Member # 10328) on :
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: ^^^^ None of those people look black, its just a B&W Photo which makes their skin Darker..LMAO..
IronLion is just trolling, its quite obvious that B&W photo make those men look dark
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by .Charlie Bass.:
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: ^^^^ None of those people look black, its just a B&W Photo which makes their skin Darker..LMAO..
IronLion is just trolling, its quite obvious that B&W photo make those men look dark
Interesting comment by Charlie Brown.
Now tell me, if they were white skinned people, why does the Black & White Photo not make them look white?
Waiting for your answer
Posted by -Just Call Me Jari- (Member # 14451) on :
The Ironedunce only operates with fuzzy easy to distort images, its the calling card of a fraud.
quote:Originally posted by .Charlie Bass.:
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: ^^^^ None of those people look black, its just a B&W Photo which makes their skin Darker..LMAO..
IronLion is just trolling, its quite obvious that B&W photo make those men look dark
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: The Ironedunce whine..whinnne..whin..whinnnneeee...
quote:Originally posted by .Charlie Bass.:
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: ^^^^ whines.. woof woof...wooooof.....
IronLion is just trolling, its quite obvious that B&W photo make those men look dark
Jari Geri the pink bytch-dog whines
You need some attention, doggie?
LMBAO! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by .Charlie Bass.:
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: ^^^^ None of those people look black, its just a B&W Photo which makes their skin Darker..LMAO..
IronLion is just trolling, its quite obvious that B&W photo make those men look dark
Interesting comment by Charlie Brown.
Now tell me, if they were white skinned people, why does the Black & White Photo not make them look white?
Waiting for your answer
Charlie Brown we still waiting for you.
In the meantime look this up:
Prince Mashur Ibn Saud:
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by .Charlie Bass.:
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: ^^^^ None of those people look black, its just a B&W Photo which makes their skin Darker..LMAO..
IronLion is just trolling, its quite obvious that B&W photo make those men look dark
Interesting comment by Charlie Brown.
Now tell me, if they were white skinned people, why does the Black & White Photo not make them look white?
Waiting for your answer
Charlie Brown we still waiting for you.
In the meantime look this up:
Prince Mashur Ibn Saud:
Saudi Arabia National Soccer Heros:
The kings bodyguards:
Any Muur questions Charlie Brown? Posted by kikuyu22 (Member # 19561) on :
I swear the spammers always succeed! Ironlion,the question still remains-can you give the source for that photo,please?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^Sorry Kikuyu, I just saw this your query. Try here:
The topic of this thread was interesting from the start and could have been enlightening if it included actual historical info as to what the Saudi originally looked like and what many Arab tribes looked like in the past. (I'm sure Dana would have much to contribute on this) Unfortunately this thread quickly degenerated into a picture spam war.
To Manu and other posting pictures of fair-skinned Arabs as evidence of 'pristine' Arabians with no slave ancestry, I suggest you do research on ethnography of Arabia first. If you did, you would know that fair-skin peoples in Arabia are largely the product of Mamluk slaves from the Caucasus and Eastern Europe. This is not to say all ancient Arabs were black, but they definitely were not fair-skinned until some centuries recently.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^I never understood what it was about Turks outside of Turkey, they never seemed to be satisfied with their own identity. They claim to be Berbers, Egyptians, Phoenicians, Persians, Arabs, Indians, Greeks, Cretans, whatever: but NEVER Turks.
But then I realized that it wasn't a Turk problem, rather it is a generalized Albino feature. Read the threads on this forum from Albinos, they are filled with Albinos claiming to be Greeks, Britain's, Celts, whatever: everything but what they actually are - Central Asian Albinos.
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
^ And I never understood why you have this obsession on Turks. Turks are NOT the only factor for light-skinned peoples in Arabia and the Near-East. A major source has been (non-Turkic) peoples of Central Asia like Indo-Iranians and likely other groups whose languages were lost as well as peoples from Europe. I've already told you that the original Turks are actually east Asians from the Mongolian steppes. The Anatolian peninsula became 'Turkey' after it was conquered by the Turks. There were already fair-skinned peoples living in the area before, though it wouldn't be surprising if the aboriginal inhabitants were darker.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Djehuti - Are you really presuming to tell ME history????
I am well aware of who was in Anatolia BEFORE the Turks. I am also well aware of who the west Asians were. However for you to say that you understand Turk origins is a lie - nobody does with any certainty.
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
^ What the hell are you talking about? The very word 'Turk' and the language it comes from as well as the people have origins that are well confirmed by history and all other evidence. I take this as cue to leave you be since you will do nothing more but talk nonsensical b.s. just like your 'European negro origins'. LOL Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
^^^the proper term is Euranegro
Posted by kikuyu22 (Member # 19561) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ^Sorry Kikuyu, I just saw this your query. Try here:
Thanks a lot! You know it confirms a lot of what you see about secret black royalty worldwide. What do you make of their seemingly Jewish Iraqi origins? IMO,its true.
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
^ I don't know about Jewish Iraqis but I do know that the Jewish people of Yemen look no different from other indigenous Yemenis and Arabians i.e. very dark and many who could pass for African. That black Arabs exist or rather that blacks have inhabited Arabia is a basic fact that warrants no surprise at the idea of black Arab royals.
This reminds me, have any of you heard of the civil unrest in Bahrain? It's funny because some of the tribes protesting against the government are accused of not being "real Arabs" due to their (dark) appearance. LOL If that's the case then what are these tribes doing in Arabia with their own sheiks representing them?
Posted by Bishop (Member # 16652) on :
so these guys were black?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Bishop: so these guys were black?
Mecca 1880
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
All is fair in love and in war...
Posted by HidayaAkade (Member # 20642) on :
Bump
Posted by The Great One (Member # 18613) on :
But looking at this picture, the thought occurred to me: in these cultures, when the children play "show me yours and I'll show you mine" who pulls up their dress first?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^LOL, look at this Skunt.... Whats your point?
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ^LOL, look at this Skunt.... Whats your point?
I don't think anyone knows. But what I know is that the lioness altered copyright material, again.
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'cause they certainly is some mulattos today although it looks like the mulattoish is 'bout to be bred out of them as well. 
