Forget the Oprahs/Obahomos and Cains. I'm asking about the true leaders genuinely seeking a better deal for blacks doing their utmost, saying unpleasant home truths for our collective upliftment. Are there any new Garveys or Nkrumahs? I've only seen Farrakhan on the net and seen web discussions;can he be regarded as a true black leader?
Posted by Oshun (Member # 19740) on :
No. Theres a reason why white people use the internet, make no leaders and are adamant about internet neutrality when forming movements. Cause public figures who REALLY want to help who step out into the public GET KILLED EXILED OR GET SENT TO JAIL. The next movement for blacks cannot HAVE a leader. DONT BE WAITING FOR ONE!!! We only have to look at MLK and Malcolm X to see how it is when ya get up making rallies and setting the stage for real change. The "black leaders" out today are allowed to be there cause the powers that be know most of Americans see em as a joke. They help to make the black community look bad to the public too.
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
No the reason why there are so few "black leaders" is because classes from which the leaders have emanated in the past are just happy and contented to drive around in luxury vehicles and live in big mansions--all the wile cosying up to whiteness.
There are 55 states in Africa--what a big sorry number--and only one is run by a leader--Mugabe. The rest are just ignorant and pitiful fools all lining up for a visit to the Elysse, 10 Downing or the WH.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
I wonder why Farrakhan's still alive
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: I wonder why Farrakhan's still alive
He said during his last few Savior Day, speeches, that he was granted long live and protection by those who reside in the "ship" (spaceship).
Posted by facts (Member # 19596) on :
Because he is not a threat.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: I wonder why Farrakhan's still alive
Posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova (Member # 15718) on :
Why is Mugabe supposed to be this outstanding "leader" while all others on the African continent are bad?
Posted by facts (Member # 19596) on :
rflol!!!!!!!!!!
quote:Originally posted by lamin: only one is run by a leader--Mugabe.
Posted by facts (Member # 19596) on :
Because the psychopath kills whites and their sympathizers. LMAO!!!!!
quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: Why is Mugabe supposed to be this outstanding "leader" while all others on the African continent are bad?
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
@ FACTOID Mugabe showed up the Brits for the pathetic liars and prevaricators they are. They left their cold and foggy island to travel thousands and kilometres into Southern Africa to steal land and kill Africans.
Some brave[Mugabe was head of ZANU and was imprisoned] Africans fought against this blatant injustice--while others were just happy to sing along with the white settlers.
They had peace talks and the agreement at Lancaster House was to return the stolen lands to its rightful users. The Brits balked and hemmed and hawed. The usual BS stuff from whites and their double talk when they can't bomb you into the dust.
The Lancaster House Agreement was to pay back the War Veterans for the sacrifices they made--including the ultimate one that many made--in their war against the white invaders. When Clare Short reneged on the deal the War Veterans sprung into action and just a few of the invaders were killed for resisting handing over their stolen lands. The international(read "white") media went beserk over this and Mugabe was pilloried and they even brought in a stooge Morgan Tsvangirai of the white MDC to right things for them.
They starved and sanctioned Zimbabwe but Mugabe did not budge. The guy is 87 years and is lucid and intelligent. For me the most effective living African leader.
Hey, Clinton killed hundreds of whites when he bombed Serbia in the mid-90's. Bush I and II killed more than a million Iraqis in their genocidal war with Iraq. Bush II did the same in Afghanistan. And Obama is now trying to outdo him in Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq.
Mugabe's regime punished a few whites and the whole white world saw red.
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
@ Zarahan,
Apart from Mugabe name an African leader who is not corrupt, thieving and of Bantustan mentality. All but one weak, piddling little punks.
Posted by facts (Member # 19596) on :
^Your deep hate for Whites has blinded you to crimes against humanity and human rights violation committed by this psychopath. You are pathetic.
Mugabe opposition activists murdered
FOUR Zimbabwe opposition activists have been found dead near Harare ahead of next week's presidential election, the Opposition Movement for Democratic Change said, blaming the deaths on the ruling party. The four MDC youth members were abducted on Tuesday and their bodies were discovered in various locations in Chitungwiza, southeast of Harare, party spokesman Nelson Chamisa said.
Mr Chamisa said the MDC suspected they had been beaten after being attacked at a local councillor's residence by ZANU-PF youth supporters armed with clubs and whips.
"Now it's about 70 we've lost," Mr Chamisa said, referring to the number of opposition supporters they say have been killed since the first round of the election on March 29.
"The situation in the country is getting worse. A free and fair election is impossible."
President Robert Mugabe has blamed the MDC for mounting violence ahead of the June 27 run-off election and threatened to arrest opposition leaders over it.
The MDC says the ruling party unleashed a campaign of intimidation after the first round in March, with party leader Morgan Tsvangirai claiming the country is now run by what is essentially a "military junta."
The UN has blamed Mr Mugabe's supporters for the bulk of the violence.
Mr Tsvangirai defeated Mr Mugabe in the March first round, but with an official vote total just short of an outright majority.
One more, why does he persists on growing a Hitler mustache? Very telling!
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
LOL, you choose to eke out your life in the belly of the most genocidal nation on this planet and you complain about a guy's mustache! LOL.
And the rest of your white media citations? The white media have been historically known for their lies and propaganda, you must be really dumb and naive to believe everything they shove down your gullet.
But even if true, Mugabe knows that the only thing whites respect force. Hence he uses force against the evil ones--the whites, and the cowardly sell-outs, the blacks.
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
The white farmers were the offspring of the colonizers, they owned 90% of the prosperous soil, yet made up less than 10% of the population. Yet, the native Zimbabweans who made up about 90% or more of the population lived predominantly in poor areas and underdeveloped soil. Not for use. And have been given poor education, if they did receive that at all. While these racist white hubbies took the best rural land for farming, so the could produce and export these products to Western countries such is the UK and USA, so it only actually benefitted racist Euro's Britain and the USA. Therefore, due to the land reform program implemented by Mugabe, wich was not favored by the colonialist racists and Bush, his foreign policies. He, Bush and his lapdog Tony Blair called for a international boycott on Zimbabwe's economy. Zimbabwe is in todays condition because of Bush and his buddies like Tone Blair who did not like this land reform and equal share of land. Because it did not support there racist agenda and ideology.
The Zimbabweans who did not listen to these white farmers, were threatened, mistreated, tortured and even killed by fighting clubs, paid killers/ murderers, criminals, all of it supported and hired by these farmers/ colonialists. Nice huh...?
And here you have the root of the problem. Now, what name appears in it again...I let you answer that question..., enjoy!
HARARE, Zimbabwe (Reuters)-- A senior Zimbabwean official condemned on Saturday a U.S. decision to impose sanctions on the leadership as part of a "white racist" attack on a government he said was fighting for the interests of its black majority.
(They have found archeological evidence of Egyptian pottery there too.)
It appears the schizophrenic called "facts", African American impostor, also lacks understanding when it comes to economics and international political affairs. As long as the schizophrenic idiot can rant on and bash blacks this schizophrenic is satisfied! Very much telling?
Posted by asante-Korton (Member # 18532) on :
any black leaders that tries to do right either gets assassinated or victimized through the media so there not much they can really do
Posted by Sahel (Siptah) (Member # 17601) on :
No. You want the truth? There are no black leaders. Only cheerleaders and preachers. Those self-proclaimed black leaders don't give a damn about black people. They are not about striving for prosperity, development or empowerment. They are leeches who only want to feed of blacks and the federal government for their own good. More importantly, we as black people need to rethink and understand what effective leadership is. If we are to speak of effective black leadership in regard to black people it either does not exist or the concept itself hasn't manifested.
Posted by facts (Member # 19596) on :
You are sick.
quote:Originally posted by lamin: Hence he uses force against the evil ones--the whites, and the cowardly sell-outs, the blacks.
Posted by Sahel (Siptah) (Member # 17601) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: I wonder why Farrakhan's still alive
I wonder this too.
Posted by facts (Member # 19596) on :
The psychopath ousts trained white farmers from the farm lands, and replaces them with Zimbabwe Negroes. Still, has the gumption to recall these same whites as a result of Blacks not knowing how to farm? No fucking shame LMFAO!! Even further, while implementing racist land policy, he expects to continue to do business with the civilized Western world? RFLOL!!!!!!!!!! You just got to love Negro logic.
As the proverbial saying goes, "don't bite the hand that feeds you!"
Posted by asante-Korton (Member # 18532) on :
quote:Originally posted by facts: The psychopath ousts trained white farmers from the farm lands, and replaces them with Zimbabwe Negroes. Still, has the gumption to recall these same whites as a result of Blacks not knowing how to farm? No fucking shame LMFAO!! Even further, while implementing racist land policy, he expects to continue to do business with the civilized Western world? RFLOL!!!!!!!!!! You just got to love Negro logic.
As the proverbial saying goes, "don't bite the hand that feeds you!"
Karma Posted by facts (Member # 19596) on :
It does not matter 'cause the next race of people to put the world on smash is the Chinese. I wonder how will they treat the Negro at their go around You will miss the days of White control when China is at the helm. They are not particularly fond of Blacks, mark my words.
quote:Originally posted by asante-Korton:
quote:Originally posted by facts: The psychopath ousts trained white farmers from the farm lands, and replaces them with Zimbabwe Negroes. Still, has the gumption to recall these same whites as a result of Blacks not knowing how to farm? No fucking shame LMFAO!! Even further, while implementing racist land policy, he expects to continue to do business with the civilized Western world? RFLOL!!!!!!!!!! You just got to love Negro logic.
As the proverbial saying goes, "don't bite the hand that feeds you!"
Karma
Posted by kikuyu22 (Member # 19561) on :
quote:Originally posted by lamin: @ Zarahan,
Apart from Mugabe name an African leader who is not corrupt, thieving and of Bantustan mentality. All but one weak, piddling little punks.
Lamin,I think you're perhaps misadvised by the MSM. Mbeki rattled many in the West when he did 2 things: -raised serious questions about HIV/AIDS throwing the whole theory into doubt -changed tack on the Rwanda/Tutsi issue after seeing how his predecessor Mandela was hopelessly out of touch with the REAL facts. It was no surprise that in either late 2000 or 01 the rand fell nearly 20% in a week-a warning shot across his bows. Fyi,Mandela,the media darling was can't be regarded as a true leader,let alone a black leader. His silence over Palestine,how the Jew York diamond dealers killed millions in the DRC via proxy to safeguard their mines or how he undermined Mbekis'HIV/AIDS revisionism speaks loud enough. There are at least one or to true leaders in Africa. Our quiet Keynesian Kibaki has led a silent revolution that has Westerners and their local houseslaves yelping like small dogs. Kibaki has instituted a policy shift the equivalent of a tsunami:
quote:
There is bad news for those aggrieved European diplomats whose complaints about being denied access to President Kibaki made headlines last weekend.
Goaded by the diplomats grumbles, angered by the arrogance that lay just below the surface, and astonished by the apparent ignorance of the shift in international relations with Africa, State House let rip: The world has changed, and so have our priorities , the diplomats were in effect told. The countries you represent are rapidly declining in importance. So stop trying to jump the queue.
The President s diary is full. Period. http://africanewsonline.blogspot.com/2012/04/what-kibakis-snub-means-for-old-europe.html Read the whole piece-twice! Kenya will lead the rest of E.Africa away from the Ice People and their anti-development treadmill to real growth and progress;the entire waist of Africa,the CAR,South Sudan and the DRC will soon follow. Remember,you read it here first.
Posted by Omo Baba (Member # 18816) on :
^Kenya?? You're misled my brother. Kenya is firmly in the hands of her former colonial master, Britain.
Isn't the Safari tourism control by the Brits? You're correct about what happened to Mbeki though.
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
OK Kenya answered. Mbeki's goal-were he a true black leader--would have been to deal effectively with the LAND QUESTION in SA. he didn't. He should have nationalised the major productive units and enterprises in SA. He didn't Just a regular cowardly African leader.
SA, Botswana, and Namibia are the countries in Africa with the biggest GINI coefficient gaps. It just means that the whites and their few black stooges enjoy while the masses suffer from crime, low education, unemployment, racism and poverty.
A true African leader will have to tackle the LAND QUESTION--including Kenya--UNEMPLOYMENT, HOUSING, LOW WAGES[ by international standards], INFRASTRUCTURAL ISSUES[ water, electricity, roads, etc.]GREED, ETC.
Only Mugabe put a small dent in these issues and whites went beserk, stark raving mad. Of course, stupid blacks were easily swayed to the white side.
Posted by Ausar Amen8 (Member # 20085) on :
Mbeki was ousted by the ANC after he questioned the HIV theory and started to swing the economy towards the Afrikan in ways which even the whites like 'FACTS' or CASS could not label as being 'sick' or 'unfair'.Mbeki has been working in Sudan and has been a negotiator between North and South Sudan.
Posted by Ausar Amen8 (Member # 20085) on :
You Lamin my friend are right but the question is BY WHAT MEANS? do you prefer violence? the is white people have more arms than Blacks and they would ixtingiush us at anytime if they decided to and you my wouldn't be able to do anything, so I say the way of Thabo Mbeki, Nkwame, Biko and others is the right one. what is the point of taking land and not know what to do with it? you must first train the people. Now you are incorrect in saying Thabo Mbeki did not 'deal' with the land issue, the guy practically put a program to train Blacks and to 'buy' the land back from whites while the whites also share their expertise in large scale farming (as opposed to 'family' size farming which is our culture anyway). Maybe the fact that the land is being 'bought' from whites is not such a cool thing but I think Thabo Mbeki was intelligent enough to khow that whites are generally war-mongers and blood spillers and so he went about effecting change without causing mass panic and certainly no race wars.
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by asante-Korton:
quote:Originally posted by facts: The psychopath ousts trained white farmers from the farm lands, and replaces them with Zimbabwe Negroes. Still, has the gumption to recall these same whites as a result of Blacks not knowing how to farm? No fucking shame LMFAO!! Even further, while implementing racist land policy, he expects to continue to do business with the civilized Western world? RFLOL!!!!!!!!!! You just got to love Negro logic.
As the proverbial saying goes, "don't bite the hand that feeds you!"
Karma
It's called the Eurocentric fear.
They have numbed and excluded Africa on the international market for centuries, decades. Now they act so called concerned.
Now that Asia, China as growing stronger they do trade with Africa. And include Africa in this. And the prospectus is looking very promising.
It's only logic Eurocentric racist dislike this process.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Facts - There is no such a thing as Negro logic. The mindless African mimicking of European thinking, rules and methods, is merely a case of "Monkey See, Monkey Do".
What makes is truly troubling is that other countries have demonstrated how well a country can do when it rejects economic and cultural domination and creates home grown solutions.
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
@Ausar A
Are you from Africa? Africans have been farming for millennia. What makes you think Africans don't know how to farm. Africans have eternal pastoralists and agriculturalists.
Only when drought hits or there is war that people flee from the land.
And you are just being silly when you say that whites will kill Africans because they have more arms.
The Algerians fought the French for a number of years and they won. Zimbabwe fought the Brits for many years until the Brits had to give in. Same for Angola, Bissau and Mozambique. Namibia under SWAPO fought the white settlers until they had to give up. Etc, etc.
Grow some round ones, will ya?
Posted by TruthAndRights (Member # 17346) on :
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
quote:Originally posted by asante-Korton:
quote:Originally posted by facts: The psychopath ousts trained white farmers from the farm lands, and replaces them with Zimbabwe Negroes. Still, has the gumption to recall these same whites as a result of Blacks not knowing how to farm? No fucking shame LMFAO!! Even further, while implementing racist land policy, he expects to continue to do business with the civilized Western world? RFLOL!!!!!!!!!! You just got to love Negro logic.
As the proverbial saying goes, "don't bite the hand that feeds you!"
Karma
It's called the Eurocentric fear.
They have numbed and excluded Africa on the international market for centuries, decades. Now they act so called concerned.
Now that Asia, China as growing stronger they do trade with Africa. And include Africa in this.
It's only logic Eurocentric racist dislike this process.
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Confirmed-Eediatbwoy is ah one bait Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by lamin: @Ausar A
Are you from Africa? Africans have been farming for millennia. What makes you think Africans don't know how to farm. Africans have eternal pastoralists and agriculturalists.
Only when drought hits or there is war that people flee from the land.
And you are just being silly when you say that whites will kill Africans because they have more arms.
The Algerians fought the French for a number of years and they won. Zimbabwe fought the Brits for many years until the Brits had to give in. Same for Angola, Bissau and Mozambique. Namibia under SWAPO fought the white settlers until they had to give up. Etc, etc.
Grow some round ones, will ya?
Consigned strongly.
Posted by kikuyu22 (Member # 19561) on :
quote:Originally posted by Omo Baba: ^Kenya?? You're misled my brother. Kenya is firmly in the hands of her former colonial master, Britain.
Isn't the Safari tourism control by the Brits? You're correct about what happened to Mbeki though.
No. That may have been true til the early 200s which saw the coming of age of indigenous financial institutions. Trust me,I live here and know unhappy Whitehall is at the new state of affairs.
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
quote:Originally posted by lamin: @Ausar A
Are you from Africa? Africans have been farming for millennia. What makes you think Africans don't know how to farm. Africans have eternal pastoralists and agriculturalists.
Only when drought hits or there is war that people flee from the land.
And you are just being silly when you say that whites will kill Africans because they have more arms.
The Algerians fought the French for a number of years and they won. Zimbabwe fought the Brits for many years until the Brits had to give in. Same for Angola, Bissau and Mozambique. Namibia under SWAPO fought the white settlers until they had to give up. Etc, etc.
Grow some round ones, will ya?
Consigned strongly.
Settlement and Subsistence of Prehistoric Farming Communities in the Mid-Zambezi Valley, Northern Zimbabwe
Im not exactly great on my history w/ China but didnt Europeans help put them back giving the Chinese people Opium? Dont white people typically hate communism? Why should the Chinese hate blacks when they've been f*cked over more by white people more than black people. I'm not sayin they SHOULD hate. But if they did..?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^A very perceptive question Oshun.
Yes, you are quite right, China was once one of the premier civilizations, and the British Opium wars, and other Albino aggressions, pushed them back into the stone age. But yet they direct their hatred towards Blacks.
The reason is quite simple: Albinos and their Mulatto societies like China, Turkey, North Africa, and the middle east, fear Black domination much more than they fear each others violence.
Which is quite irrational when you think about it; no known sources speak about Black atrocities against Albinos in all of mans history leading up to the recent Albino accession to power. Yet they all have this deep seated fear of Blacks.
I am beginning to wonder if perhaps they "White-Washed" this type of history also. Maybe atrocities against Albinos - visa-vie the modern east African experience, was the norm in past times - I have no clue, just guessing.
And it's interesting how the Albino and Mulatto mind works in this regard. For quite a while now, I was curious as to why Lioness featured the "Light-skinned" San as different from regular Africans. Particularly since Africans of the same complexion are quite common through-out Africa.
My curiosity was finally satisfied when I saw new posting touting the San as the progenitors of the Chinese. (Before this the Chinese claimed to descend from "Peking Man" a version of Homo erectus.
Of course the Chinese DO descend from Africans like the San.
But my question is: Why the San....
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And NOT the Himba???
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The Himba's features are more Chinese-like than the San's, but the San are preferred. Seems to me that the darkness of skin might have something to do with it.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^For years I have been concerned for the mental health of East Asians, visa-vie their determined efforts to deny their Black Albino/mulatto origins.
Initially I was concerned by the cosmetic surgeries.
. Then I was even more alarmed by the Manga cartoon craze. This raised Red flags all over the place for me. Simply because the cartoon characters had not the slightest resemblance to what Chinese and Japanese people actually looked like.
But now it seems that our Mulatto children have completely lost their minds and have gone completely over to the Albino side.
THEY ARE NOW HAVING SURGERIES TO MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE THE ALBINO CARTOON CHARACTERS!
Posted by kikuyu22 (Member # 19561) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^For years I have been concerned for the mental health of East Asians, visa-vie their determined efforts to deny their Black Albino/mulatto origins.
Initially I was concerned by the cosmetic surgeries.
. Then I was even more alarmed by the Manga cartoon craze. This raised Red flags all over the place for me. Simply because the cartoon characters had not the slightest resemblance to what Chinese and Japanese people actually looked like.
But now it seems that our Mulatto children have completely lost their minds and have gone completely over to the Albino side.
THEY ARE NOW HAVING SURGERIES TO MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE THE ALBINO CARTOON CHARACTERS!
Uurghhh!Mike111,those last are straight out faggotry! I've also noticed that reflex Asian anti blackness and assume it has much to do with a subconscious mimicking of their conquerors. Identify with his ethos and subliminally and indirectly internalise his strength. Back to the topic. Which of these are intel agents? Hint:the 2 are both black. Posted by kikuyu22 (Member # 19561) on :
Oops! Here's the pic.
Back to the topic. Which of these are intel agents? Hint:the 2 are both black.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
My experience of Asians have been generally positive.
They have no reasons to hate on Muurs, but every reason to hate on their former oppressors, and yes, they do hate them.
I have never in my life experienced racism from an Asian. I live and work with many Asians.
Posted by Crush Black Lies (Member # 20324) on :
You are either full of poop or one naive fvck. Asians are repulsed by Blacks and have a long history feeling this way.
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: My experience of Asians have been generally positive.
They have no reasons to hate on Muurs, but every reason to hate on their former oppressors, and yes, they do hate them.
I have never in my life experienced racism from an Asian. I live and work with many Asians.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
is it possible that Asians are repulsed by blacks but like certain types of Muurs?
Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
Instead of looking for Theeee Black leader how about you!! in your respective fields,upping your own game goes along way we are not all going to be leaders of our own nations although it could be possible in some cases,and I am willing to bet that most here hails from a middle class environment and some from even upper cls millionaires so what gives???..why wait for the man when you can be the man... Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: My experience of Asians have been generally positive.
They have no reasons to hate on Muurs, but every reason to hate on their former oppressors, and yes, they do hate them.
I have never in my life experienced racism from an Asian. I live and work with many Asians.
I wasn't suggesting that Japanese "Hate" Blacks, I was merely pointing out that they - like most humans - seek to mimic the "Powerful" those in power.
This makes them embarrassed of their Black heritage - since we are seen as the lowest rung on the ladder. Thus they use "White-face" as their epitome of beauty, and avoid the sun so as not to darken their skin any more than it already is.
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Hard to believe that underneath that makeup, there are "Brown-Skinned" people like these!
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The surgeries are simply the next step in achieving true Dravidian Albinohood. Do they know and understand what they are doing? Of course not!
They just know that they want to be like the current kings. This need to conform is deeply engrained into the Mongol psyche.
For me, the best example is the now-outlawed practice of "Foot-Binding". The practice is thought to originate with a queen of the Song Dynasty (960 and 1279) who had "Deformed" feet and could only walk with "Tiny" steps.
Before you know it, the courtiers are mimicking the way she walked. Then the entire population mimics them by "Binding" the feet of female infants so that when they grow up, they will walk like the elites.
Look closely at the level of foot deformity necessary to accomplish this.
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Needless to say, those females were in constant agony. Yet the practice endured for a thousand years. I don't want to be mean, but that indicates a certain predisposition towards lunacy in Mongols.
So it's no surprise to me that the Japanese try to hide their Black Jomon and Ainu heritage, and feature only their Mongol Albino heritage.
Some interesting Photos:
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Cass - "Crush Black Lies" is trying to steal your thunder - are you going to let him get away with that?
I mean, it doesn't matter to me. One pathetic Albino is about the same as any other - but you were here first.
Posted by Doug M (Member # 7650) on :
It is not so much that Asians "hate" blacks because they have the same racism as whites. It is because they have been lied to and brainwashed by whites. For the last 300 years whites have been in South Asia and the pacific working hard via their pseudo anthropology and science to create a myth of "indigenous Asians" being strictly mongoloid whites, while the only blacks were the negritoes and people like the Aborigines of Australia. And of course they created fake and arbitrary distinctions based on size, head shape and other superficial characteristics to reinforce these notions. And all of this was force fed down the throats of the natives in Asia and elsewhere and they were taught to conform to these concepts. Not only that, but these folks were interbred specifically to reinforce racial stereotypes about what is "pure" and "superior" with any traces of black blood or phenotype being painstakingly whitewashed. So from that combination of miscegenation and educational propaganda you have a large population that has arisen in the last 100 years or less that don't know the truth and believe the lies that have been told to them.
Because of their selective practices in ethnology many people will still believe such lies.
Don't get me wrong though. Asians aren't lotus worshiping hippies either. Its just that most of their wars were about power and empire not "race". The history of China, Korea, the Mongols and Japan makes this painfully obvious. But even with that the whole point is that no civilization has ever tried to conquer the entire world in the name of one "race" of people and spent so much time and effort defining "race" and creating fake sciences around it to justify domination based on lies and nonsense.
@crush black lies You are either full of poop or one naive fvck. Asians are repulsed by Blacks and have a long history feeling this way.
There may well be racist Chinese, but I've never had any experience of this in my encounters with them in London and China.
As a black person proficient in Mandarin who has visited China, travelling independently with my partner and daughter who was 2 at the time, I have to say that I got no sense of this visceral anti-black Chinese racism that you describe. Actually, quite the opposite. Aside from, ahem, flattering me on my Mandarin, the Chinese repeatedly told us how beautiful our daughter is and constantly wanted to pick her up. In one of the hotels, she was threw a tantrum when we were trying to eat and the hotel staff very fucking helpfully took her off to play - even the chef came out to help ffs. This isn't the sort of behaviour that one would expect from racists that find blacks repulsive.
But then I wonder how much of this is about making a certain type of white person feel good about themselves, eh?
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
Don't go too far on this Mike. This confounded need for conformity looks more human than ethno/racial.
quote:Needless to say, those females were in constant agony. Yet the practice endured for a thousand years. I don't want to be mean, but that indicates a certain predisposition towards lunacy in Mongols.
Blacks have conked and fried their hair for more than 100 years now[ Malcolm X described the painful process] and in parts of Africa excision of a portion of that female body part is supposed to ward off kinds of things--pure BS, but people are forced to conform to it to fit with the group.
Much less painful but irritating is the lisp with which Spaniards pronounce "C"--all because some darn king could speak normally. The populace like lemmings just followed suit--and presto, a new way of speaking with a lisp was normalised.
Not just the Chinese but humans just love to conform--even on BS.
Posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist (Member # 18853) on :
quote:Originally posted by Crush Black Lies: [QB] You are either full of poop or one naive fvck. Asians are repulsed by Blacks and have a long history feeling this way.
Very true, but this is not limited to Asians but the entire world. Websites like 'chimpout' which has thousands of members and millions of hits, is a forum where people express their same repulsion . I expected its members to be Caucasian, but many are in fact orientals, south asians, native americans etc.
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
Coorection above: "some darn king could NOT speak normally".
Posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist (Member # 18853) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Cass - "Crush Black Lies" is trying to steal your thunder - are you going to let him get away with that?
I mean, it doesn't matter to me. One pathetic Albino is about the same as any other - but you were here first.
I believe that user is Confirming Truth. He's probably the best poster here. Also note that he is Black himself, he's as dark as you Mike - so its really daft to keep calling him an 'albino'.
Posted by kikuyu22 (Member # 19561) on :
and in parts of Africa excision of a portion of that female body part is supposed to ward off kinds of things--pure BS, but people are forced to conform to it to fit with the group.
quote:
I love the way threads on ES habitually take a path of their own,Loll!Fyi,the majority of bantu Africa actually practices elongation of that anatomy-it commonly reaches 2 inches,though I've personally seen 4,and have heard of 7 inches. OF COURSE THE MSM DOESN'T MENTION THIS SINCE IT DOESN'T CONFORM TO THEIR PRECONCEPTIONS. Sorry-no pics!!
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
Anglo-P,
LOL. We are smart enough to know that what is meat to whites is often poison to others.
It's just natural in whites to promote and praise ignorant "native informants".
And by the way we really don't know who CT/ Facts/CBL is. He says he is black but he talks like any Klan/NF guy.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Ya, I know he's Black Cass; Just like Lioness and Jari:
How about you Cass, are you Black too?
I mean, the photo could be a clever cover.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lamin - I was merely giving MY interpretation of the aforementioned. As you, Doug, and Clause ably demonstrated, mine is not the only way to look at it.
I was hoping that no one would bring up the idiocy of some Africans and "Real" Arabs. To me that is male insecurity and male domination gone haywire. Quite frankly I question the masculinity of males in those societies. Seems to me a "Real" justified man would never do such things to those under his control and protection. It is abuse, pure and simple.
kikuyu22 - Seven inches huh?
Damn, I don't know if I could handle it, but I guess that I would be duty-bound to try - at least once.
Posted by claus3600 (Member # 19584) on :
@anglo Very true, but this is not limited to Asians but the entire world. Websites like 'chimpout' which has thousands of members and millions of hits, is a forum where people express their same repulsion . I expected its members to be Caucasian, but many are in fact orientals, south asians, native americans etc.
Yep, millions of marginalised losers like you who post sh1t from behind the safety of a keyboard. Remember that time that I offered to meet you in London face to face so you could say your crap to me?From what I remember you shat yourself and bottled it.
Fvcking bottler.
Fvcking loser.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Ha,ha,ha: I had never heard of that before (Chimpout). Damn, the Albino boys are fading fast.
Posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist (Member # 18853) on :
quote:Originally posted by claus3600: @anglo Very true, but this is not limited to Asians but the entire world. Websites like 'chimpout' which has thousands of members and millions of hits, is a forum where people express their same repulsion . I expected its members to be Caucasian, but many are in fact orientals, south asians, native americans etc.
Yep, millions of marginalised losers like you who post sh1t from behind the safety of a keyboard. Remember that time that I offered to meet you in London face to face so you could say your crap to me?From what I remember you shat yourself and bottled it.
Fvcking bottler.
Fvcking loser.
Nothing to do with me, and i find that site repulsive, i don't post there. I was merely pointing out that it exists, and there are hundreds more just as extreme.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
racism usually occurs when the size of a "minority" population is perceived to be large enough to be a threat or seen as competative with a majority. When the population is smaller than that the epopel are seen as an interesting "novelty"
Posted by Ausar Amen8 (Member # 20085) on :
quote:Originally posted by lamin: @Ausar A
>>> Are you from Africa? Yeah, I am Nguni. grew up in Johannesburg and still live here in Joburg
(Africans have been farming for millennia. What makes you think Africans don't know how to farm. Africans have eternal pastoralists and agriculturalists.)
>>>> Yes Afrikans are farmers, eternal pastoralists and all but there's no need to be like that. I am not saying Afrikans dont know how to farm, I mean I grew up farming and most farms are like staffed by Blacks, however Whites farm owners are the ones run the show there.For your information then Mr. aBantu ('Bantu' people) do not produce food on such a scale as to feed a nation of 54 million (plus foreign nationals). besides what I am saying is not based off of theaory or even emotion, Blacks have been given the land and they mostly produce NOTHING! know why? because Afrikans in S.Afrika and the continent at large are generally greedy, corrupt and loot the economies of the countries they run. The same is true of the Afrikan farmers here, they use the money for their family members and then cry to the government for fundung...ALWAYS! Besides, comparing modern farming with the traditional way of farming doesn't just cut it, Bantus know how to produce food for their family/clan but they don't know how to use these pesticides and all of that stuff. Don't know what is needed when this or that happens. I know this might be emotional for you but we need to deal with the facts...Zimbabwe and Swaziland are two Southern Afrikans countries run by Blacks, who mostly have untrained Black farmers and guess what? they are the two most economically marginalized countries, albeit in Zimbabwe's case politics and the West have a lot to do with it
(Only when drought hits or there is war that people flee from the land.)
>>>>But now you can't just run everywhere you want as there are borders today, right?
(And you are just being silly when you say that whites will kill Africans because they have more arms. The Algerians fought the French for a number of years and they won. Zimbabwe fought the Brits for many years until the Brits had to give in. Same for Angola, Bissau and Mozambique. Namibia under SWAPO fought the white settlers until they had to give up. Etc, etc.
Grow some round ones, will ya?
?
>>>>>At what price my friend? I know about all of that and also my own people (the Zulu, the Xhosa etc) fought against the Whites and won some battles but we lost the war. No one wants to be a soldier or tom be involved in politics HERE IN SOUTH AFRIKA. Ask some Nigerian who has lived here and they will tell you just pathetic and lazy the South Afrikans are. Zimbabweans, Ethiopians, Somalis, Nigerians come here and take jobs and what does the South Afrikan do? he attacks his fellow Afrikans and leave the lighter skinned foreigners alone (2008 xenophobic attacks)
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^Hehe.. you are Afrikaner right? Come out of the closet, no need to pretend. Go ahead, put on your white bedsheets, we already know you by the sound of you...
hehehe...
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
This does not exist! I do not know! They are all committed to communism or conservatism. Or anything else none are committed to black people. We have to create an ideology to who read can follow so it is very simple like communism and Nazism. so each individual can fight the revolution. This is methods. This is how we will create the black world empire
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
Ausar A,
Have you been to a market in West Africa? They are usually full of all agricultural products and also locally produced meat and fish products. Only rice is imported--courtesy Western neoliberal economic imperialism. Name the homegrown agricultural product, it's produced in West Africa.
So quit the nonsense about invader whites being better at farming than Africans. Most the whites do is get credit from white banks then hire Africans--at slave wages--to do the real work. Most of the time the whites are off golfing or drinking beer and showing off their fat thunder thighs.
Posted by Doug M (Member # 7650) on :
quote:Originally posted by Doug M: It is not so much that Asians "hate" blacks because they have the same racism as whites. It is because they have been lied to and brainwashed by whites. For the last 300 years whites have been in South Asia and the pacific working hard via their pseudo anthropology and science to create a myth of "indigenous Asians" being strictly mongoloid whites, while the only blacks were the negritoes and people like the Aborigines of Australia. And of course they created fake and arbitrary distinctions based on size, head shape and other superficial characteristics to reinforce these notions. And all of this was force fed down the throats of the natives in Asia and elsewhere and they were taught to conform to these concepts. Not only that, but these folks were interbred specifically to reinforce racial stereotypes about what is "pure" and "superior" with any traces of black blood or phenotype being painstakingly whitewashed. So from that combination of miscegenation and educational propaganda you have a large population that has arisen in the last 100 years or less that don't know the truth and believe the lies that have been told to them.
Because of their selective practices in ethnology many people will still believe such lies.
Don't get me wrong though. Asians aren't lotus worshiping hippies either. Its just that most of their wars were about power and empire not "race". The history of China, Korea, the Mongols and Japan makes this painfully obvious. But even with that the whole point is that no civilization has ever tried to conquer the entire world in the name of one "race" of people and spent so much time and effort defining "race" and creating fake sciences around it to justify domination based on lies and nonsense.
Here is a perfect example of what I am talking about:
quote: THE RACES OF MAN IN THE MALAY ARCHIPELAGO I PROPOSE to conclude this account of my Eastern travels, with a short statement of my views as to the races of man which inhabit the various parts of the Archipelago, their chief physical and mental characteristics, their affinities with each other and with surrounding tribes, their migrations, and their probable origin. Two very strongly contrasted races inhabit the Archipelago--the Malays, occupying almost exclusively the larger western half of it, and the Papuans, whose headquarters are New Guinea and several of the adjacent islands. Between these in locality, are found tribes who are also intermediate in their chief characteristics, and it is sometimes a nice point to determine whether they belong to one or the other race, or have been formed by a mixture of the two. The Malay is undoubtedly the most important of these two races, as it is the one which is the most civilized, which has come most into contact with Europeans, and which alone has any place in history. What may be called the true Malay races, as distinguished from others who have merely a Malay element in their language, present a considerable uniformity of physical and mental characteristics, while there are very great differences of civilization and of language. They consist of four great, and a few minor semi-civilized tribes, and a number of others who may be termed savages. The Malays proper inhabit the Malay peninsula, and almost all the coast regions of Borneo and Sumatra. They all speak the Malay language, or dialects of it; they write in the Arabic character, and are Mahometans in religion. The Javanese inhabit Java, part of Sumatra, Madura, Bali, and Bart of Lombock. They speak the Javanese and Kawi languages, which they write in a native character. They are now Mahometans in Java, but Brahmins in Bali and Lombock. The Bugis are the inhabitants of the greater parts of Celebes, and there seems to be an allied people in Sumbawa. They speak the Bugis and Macassar languages, with dialects, and have two different native characters in which they write these. They are all Mahometans. The fourth great race is that of the Tagalas in the Philippine Islands, about whom, as I did not visit those Islands, I shall say little. Many of them are now Christians, and speak Spanish as well as their native tongue, the Tagala. The Moluccan-Malays, who inhabit chiefly Ternate, Tidore, Batchian, and Amboyna, may be held to form a fifth division of semi-civilized Malays. They are all Mahometans, but they speak a variety of curious languages, which seem compounded of Bugis and Javanese, with the languages of the savage tribes of the Moluccas. The savage Malays are the Dyaks of Borneo; the Battaks and other wild tribes of Sumatra; the Jakuns of the Malay Peninsula; the aborigines of Northern Celebes, of the Sula island, and of part of Bouru. The colour of all these varied tribes is a light reddish brown, with more or less of an olive tinge, not varying in any important degree over an extent of country as large as all Southern Europe. The hair is equally constant, being invariably black and straight, and of a rather coarse texture, so that any lighter tint, or any wave or curl in it, is an almost certain proof of the admixture of some foreign blood. The face is nearly destitute of beard, and the breast and limbs are free from hair. The stature is tolerably equal, and is always considerably below that of the average European; the body is robust, the breast well developed, the feet small, thick, and short, the hands small and rather delicate. The face is a little broad, and inclined to be flat; the forehead is rather rounded, the brows low, the eyes black and very slightly oblique; the nose is rather small, not prominent, but straight and well-shaped, the apex a little rounded, the nostrils broad and slightly exposed; the cheek-bones are rather prominent, the mouth large, the lips broad and well cut, but not protruding, the chin round and well-formed.
Here he claims that the original malays were "light olive", closer to whites in civilization and above the blacks like the Papuans. Yet when you go back through the photo archives of the British, Dutch and others most of these people were blacks, albeit with more Asiatic features, but still blacks.
Now, if you look at the photo above you will see how the white anthropologist is measuring characteristics of one man out of a group. Note the features of the group. Now, by singling out certain traits out of a group and holding them up above the others, they created the concepts of race that many folks are still going by, even though it is completely nonsensical.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^You are quite right: that's why I can only smile when Doxie starts up. She wants so earnestly to defend her race, but how do you defend such degenerate behavior?
Posted by Ausar Amen8 (Member # 20085) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ^Hehe.. you are Afrikaner right? Come out of the closet, no need to pretend. Go ahead, put on your white bedsheets, we already know you by the sound of you...
hehehe...
LOL, some of the posters here like to resort to that. I am suddenly Afrikaaner now just because I am trying to stay real? I feel insulted that Ironlion has called me 'Afrikaaner' when I am as Black as they come, do not speak afrikaans and certainly do not like their culture. I stay in Afrika buddy and grew up herding cattle, I am not some city boy, I do not even embrace the term 'African'...I am a 'Muntu' (singular for so called 'Bantu') and I practice all the tenents of Bantu culture and religion...how about you? Do you have an Afrikan name, do you speak any of the languages ro you just feel like saying what you want just because I am not saying anything you like? Anyway I do not profess to know much, infact I have been an eager follower (learner) of the subjects discussed here ever since 2007, when I first bumped into this site by pure luck while I was intrigued by the then 'idea' that the Pharoahs could be Black (today I know that the Ancient Egyptians were a pan Afrikan/Black civilization and I am currently trying to bring awareness to the average Black on the street who cares to listen and I preach the same on facebook - my username is 'IMHOTEP MAAT RE'- feel free to add me and see what 'race' I am and what my stance is on these issues.)...anyways I then started to follow this forum and it has shaped my views greatly but I am sorry friend, I think I know more about who and what I am than you do. I am NOT Afrikaaner and will never be, whether you believe that or not. I think part of the problem is that we Black people have is that we're too stuck up learning about our history BUT NEVER LEARNING FROM OUR HISTORY. Afrikans aren't doing any better than we can and should, stop thinking your silly ideals are whats going on in Afrika, do some real research and draw conclusions.
Posted by Ausar Amen8 (Member # 20085) on :
And btw Ironlion, I once started a thread here on egyptsearch, my only one, and most of the regular posters on here (guys like Cassi) never really dealt with that, instead my thread was deleted. It was about the language of Km.t and its relation to 'Bantu'. Dr. Clide Winters did respond, and somme other poster just attacked me for even daring to start that thread even though I merely asked the members to just evaluate Ferg Somo's findings (www.kaa-umati.co.uk) and scholarship, studies in which he shows the close relationship of Bantu and Mdw Ntr. This view cetainlt upset some here going by the reaction I received (my idea was to simply attempt to make sense of the findings of the DNA Tribes as often posted saying the Amarna Mummies are related to Central-, South-, and West-Afrikans, moreso than Horners. I mean if I am Afrikaaner why would I border myself with that? I am here to lrean and hopefully contribute what I know about my people (especially on the language and cosmologies) and the rest of the Afrikans.
Posted by Ausar Amen8 (Member # 20085) on :
quote:Originally posted by lamin: Ausar A,
Have you been to a market in West Africa? They are usually full of all agricultural products and also locally produced meat and fish products. Only rice is imported--courtesy Western neoliberal economic imperialism. Name the homegrown agricultural product, it's produced in West Africa.
So quit the nonsense about invader whites being better at farming than Africans. Most the whites do is get credit from white banks then hire Africans--at slave wages--to do the real work. Most of the time the whites are off golfing or drinking beer and showing off their fat thunder thighs.
* Listen buddy, I am not talking about Africans in general (show me where I said that), I am merely telling you about what's happening in South Afrika...it is a fact that the Afrikans here are not the best at farming because most have abandoned it all together (the traditional farming). I admit that I haven't been to West Afrika and so I have not seen what you tell me and it is encouraging to know that. Again, I agree that Blacks do the real work (I believe I had alteady stated this) whilst the Afrikaaners give the directins. Yes Afrikans work for next to nothing, but my point is...Afrikans who run farms in South Afrika and even in Zimbabwe have not produced as much as their white counterparts have (if this disgusts you then Im sorry but its true) or myaybe you might wanna explain why Zimbabwe has been reduced to beggar status while it has the land that made it an economic super power two decades ago (I know about the sanctions but others who were sanctioned have made it work. Two such countires are North Korea, apartheid South Afrika). Sanctions do not stop land from producing, so why havent Blacks South Afrikans and Zimbabweans produced much?
Check where it reads> "Last but not least, market acceess, is a huge hurdle facing emerging farmers who are excluded from markets because:
production is low and inconsistent; they have limited access to market infrastructure (e.g packhouses, abattoirs, silos, etc) which are important to emerging farmers to final markets, but such facilities and infrastructure are often dismissed as a non-issue as the perception is that emerging farmers should use the same structures as commercial farmers even though these are monopolised by big business; most agriculture markets are impermeable to small producers, for example processors and retail chains have stringent procurement policies such as international quality standards (GlobalGAP), labelling, exclusive contractual arrangements, etc...."
***I think it is good to let you know I am for Afrikans running their lands and economy but I think we ought to allow for steady transition and not just kill people, taking the land and then starving the nation and this is the primary reason I and o lt others are studying - to allow for development, a successful shift the economic balance/power, at a steady rate that allows for real change (this is the vision of Thabo Mbeki, my clansman), Ironlion seems to be against development. I think he sees it as an insult hence he disrespects me claing I must be a South Afrikan Dutch LOL***
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
quote:myaybe you might wanna explain why Zimbabwe has been reduced to beggar status while it has the land that made it an economic super power two decades ago (I know about the sanctions but others who were sanctioned have made it work. Two such countires are North Korea, apartheid South Afrika). Sanctions do not stop land from producing, so why havent Blacks South Afrikans and Zimbabweans produced much?
Whether you are a white Settler or Indigenous African we don't know but your views are strictly pro-white Settler.
North Korea was never part of the neo-liberal Euro-American economic system so sanctions would have little effect on its banking system. Zimbabwe was tied into that neo-liberal system so sanctions would hurt. Yet, North Korea still depends on food aid. And SA never really was sanctioned by the white West. Just propaganda talk.
Point is that you can blame the racist Apartheid system and its unchanged--except on paper--aftermath for most of the problems of SA. From xenophobia to massive unemployment and poor housing conditions.
South Africa and Namibia have the largest GINI coefficients in all of Africa--so that proves the point that the settlers are still in economic command in both places.
You talk of fearing to be killed by the whites--assuming you are not one--if you protest. LOL! All Zuma has to do is nationalise the mines and large agricultural units.
The result would be that the settlers would pack their bags for other white settler states like Australia, U.S., Canada, New Zealand and parts of South America--mainly in the cooler Southern regions. The West--U.S. and Europe-- would pull the credit plugs and seek to depose Zuma but there would be no war. Too risky for them.
So blame the problems on Apartheid and its minimal change on the ground in its aftermath. And blame the compromised and sold-out ANC too--who are just too cowardly and brainwashed to do the right thing.
Posted by Ausar Amen8 (Member # 20085) on :
quote:Originally posted by lamin:
quote:myaybe you might wanna explain why Zimbabwe has been reduced to beggar status while it has the land that made it an economic super power two decades ago (I know about the sanctions but others who were sanctioned have made it work. Two such countires are North Korea, apartheid South Afrika). Sanctions do not stop land from producing, so why havent Blacks South Afrikans and Zimbabweans produced much?
Whether you are a white Settler or Indigenous African we don't know but your views are strictly pro-white Settler.
North Korea was never part of the neo-liberal Euro-American economic system so sanctions would have little effect on its banking system. Zimbabwe was tied into that neo-liberal system so sanctions would hurt. Yet, North Korea still depends on food aid. And SA never really was sanctioned by the white West. Just propaganda talk.
Point is that you can blame the racist Apartheid system and its unchanged--except on paper--aftermath for most of the problems of SA. From xenophobia to massive unemployment and poor housing conditions.
South Africa and Namibia have the largest GINI coefficients in all of Africa--so that proves the point that the settlers are still in economic command in both places.
You talk of fearing to be killed by the whites--assuming you are not one--if you protest. LOL! All Zuma has to do is nationalise the mines and large agricultural units.
The result would be that the settlers would pack their bags for other white settler states like Australia, U.S., Canada, New Zealand and parts of South America--mainly in the cooler Southern regions. The West--U.S. and Europe-- would pull the credit plugs and seek to depose Zuma but there would be no war. Too risky for them.
So blame the problems on Apartheid and its minimal change on the ground in its aftermath. And blame the compromised and sold-out ANC too--who are just too cowardly and brainwashed to do the right thing.
>>>"you can blame the problems on apartheid..." yes, agreed mate but still that doesn't change that there are problems in South Afrika, which is my stance. Afrikans are facing problems with the whole farming (and in other areas) thing. >>> And no I did not say I fear whites would kill me (or us) for protesting (again, produce a quote where I said that), I merely said whites (this includes those in Europe, Amerikkka, Australia etc) have more firepower than us. They have more dealy weapons than us Afrikans (this includes the diaspora community), so its really stupid to wanna start a rac war if that's what you think Afrikan should do to emancipate themselves. Btw, are you aware of the speech a certain sick Pik Botha made about eradicating Blacks? For starters dude I do believe HIV is whites' invention and a biological weapon to eradicate Blacks. Thabo Mbeki was removed from office after he put a question mark on the whole 'AIDS is virus that evolves into a syndrome' notion. He asked a question that no one has answered unless you view this HIV as a human invention.
*** Think my views are pro-settler? LOL well I dont believe that, I am just willing to admit that Afrikans are facing problems, maybe you dont but that dont make me pro-White. Once again, if you really wanna know what my political views are then you're welcome to ask or visit my facebook account anf see my picture/views. I am all for Blacks (I will try upload a picture of myself...in the meantime you might wanna produce a refutation to the fact that Blacks are selling the land the government has given them and they aren't producing much. hell you might even come buy some land, the ANC will sell it you on the basis of your skin-colour and then we'll see what you do with it.
Posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist (Member # 18853) on :
^ Indigenous South Africans are the Capoids (Bushmen) not Negroids.
May i point out that the Negroes have been committing acts of genocide against the Bushmen, long before European colonists arrived. It is in fact only white charities that have prevented the Bushmen from total extermination.
Posted by Ausar Amen8 (Member # 20085) on :
LOL, You're an idiot mate, there are no Capoids except in your sick mind. Afrikans are Afrikans. Muller tried that tactic and was quickly made to eat humble pie (Xhosa Kings do record history and yeah we had and still have names for places such as the so called 'table mountain' which is actually 'INTABA KA MNINI' meaning Mnini's mountain, Saldanah Bay is actually called 'Umhlaba ka Sandile', the Sandiles are a Xhosa dynasty that have been riling for around 600 years years now. The place wherein the Greepoint stadium is built lies the bones of Xhosa and Khoisan kings. The whites who rule that province disrespect the indigenous people but things shall soon change). We South Afrikans actually do not want you in our land. Khoisan people were assimilated into Xhosa and Tswana communities. Some call themselves 'Coloureds' and speak Afrikaans but thats it, none of them view whites as their savours. Want to about genocide? well your race has done a lot in that department. All you know is destroy, whether it be People, their history or culture, its the same. Most of you are liars and no one on here believes your lies anymore, pity there is a majority who fall for the whole 'Jesus is Lord' stupidity. The Khoi and the San, the Hottentot have fled White persecution and become a part of the people you call 'Negriods'. How are your Capoids different from 'Negroids'?
quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist: ^ Indigenous South Africans are the Capoids (Bushmen) not Negroids.
May i point out that the Negroes have been committing acts of genocide against the Bushmen, long before European colonists arrived. It is in fact only white charities that have prevented the Bushmen from total extermination.
^^Pretard!
A pretard is an idiot worse than a retard! Posted by kikuyu22 (Member # 19561) on :
People may find amen8s' observations uncomfortable but as blacks we must be honest with each other! Too many times we shy away from unpleasant realities and refuse to see our own self sabotaging tendencies. Kenyan friends and family in SA have frequently confirmed exactly what he says. Trust me-many SA blacks are truly uninterested in owning and farming land or any other worthwhile venture.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Amen8, ok, perhaps you are not Afrikaner. You sounded somewhat Afrikaner with your woe-stricked attitude about the South Africans.
I am Muurish-Nigerian. We believe we can do it by ourselves. We know that we are being sabotaged by Babylonian politricks. But we don't accept any inability, cause we know we can do it.
I hope to see that kind of consciousness arise in the Bantus of the south.
My apologies again.
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
quote:People may find amen8s' observations uncomfortable but as blacks we must be honest with each other! Too many times we shy away from unpleasant realities and refuse to see our own self sabotaging tendencies. Kenyan friends and family in SA have frequently confirmed exactly what he says. Trust me-many SA blacks are truly uninterested in owning and farming land or any other worthwhile venture.
How many people do agriculture in Europe or America? Less than 6% in the U.S. with a lot of the hard work done by migrants from Mexico and other Central American parts.
In Europe it's less than 10% with some of the hard work done by migrants from Africa and elsewhere.
Similarly in South Africa, black South Africans work and produce on the white-settler occupied farms. Do you think whites do any of the growing, hoeing and picking on those farms. The most they do is run to the bank for credit to buy pesticides, tractors, fertilisers, etc.
Know this: 1) The blacks work in the mines. Not the whites.
2) Agricultural work on the farms: apple farms, wheat farms, grape farms, maize farms, etc. are all done be blacks.
So where do you get the idea that blacks don't work on the land?
The settler whites, as I said, only get bank credit which they use to finance growing on the farms. And how many whites of a population of approximately 5 million work on farms. I am sure it's not more than 20,000.
All the universities have to do is to train blacks in agronomy and business administration and in you easily come up with 20,000 replacements for the whites in 4 years.
Step 1: nationalise the farms and the mines
Step 2: replace the white settlers with trained business admin. cadres. Simple.
But the brainwashed white-worshipping ANC refuse to do just the few simple things that would benefit the Africans.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
How to recognize a real black leader.
1) Jewish media will attempt to marginalize them, I.E. Cynthia McKenny
2) White mainstream will identify and label them, I.E., Rev. Wright/Louis Farrakhan
3) Will suddenly come down with a rare illness, I.E., brain cancer; Reggie Lewis
4) Brought and paid for Negro leaders will ignore or denounce them.
Posted by Doug M (Member # 7650) on :
quote:Originally posted by lamin:
quote:People may find amen8s' observations uncomfortable but as blacks we must be honest with each other! Too many times we shy away from unpleasant realities and refuse to see our own self sabotaging tendencies. Kenyan friends and family in SA have frequently confirmed exactly what he says. Trust me-many SA blacks are truly uninterested in owning and farming land or any other worthwhile venture.
How many people do agriculture in Europe or America? Less than 6% in the U.S. with a lot of the hard work done by migrants from Mexico and other Central American parts.
In Europe it's less than 10% with some of the hard work done by migrants from Africa and elsewhere.
Similarly in South Africa, black South Africans work and produce on the white-settler occupied farms. Do you think whites do any of the growing, hoeing and picking on those farms. The most they do is run to the bank for credit to buy pesticides, tractors, fertilisers, etc.
Know this: 1) The blacks work in the mines. Not the whites.
2) Agricultural work on the farms: apple farms, wheat farms, grape farms, maize farms, etc. are all done be blacks.
So where do you get the idea that blacks don't work on the land?
The settler whites, as I said, only get bank credit which they use to finance growing on the farms. And how many whites of a population of approximately 5 million work on farms. I am sure it's not more than 20,000.
All the universities have to do is to train blacks in agronomy and business administration and in you easily come up with 20,000 replacements for the whites in 4 years.
Step 1: nationalise the farms and the mines
Step 2: replace the white settlers with trained business admin. cadres. Simple.
But the brainwashed white-worshipping ANC refuse to do just the few simple things that would benefit the Africans.
The other thing you need to do is control the banks which basically only have cash for the whites to begin with. Those banks only exist to hoard the gold, diamonds, silver, platinum and other resources that have been extracted over the last 100 years and use them to finance their operations. And you need give deed and title of land ownership to blacks. You cannot have economics without land ownership. But of course in the global system of the European colonial settler economic system only the settler has land rights under common law. The natives have no rights. They are simply there to be poor peasants who work for whatever peanuts the settlers give them.
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist: ^ Indigenous South Africans are the Capoids (Bushmen) not Negroids.
May i point out that the Negroes have been committing acts of genocide against the Bushmen, long before European colonists arrived. It is in fact only white charities that have prevented the Bushmen from total extermination.
Posted by Ausar Amen8 (Member # 20085) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Amen8, ok, perhaps you are not Afrikaner. You sounded somewhat Afrikaner with your woe-stricked attitude about the South Africans.
I am Muurish-Nigerian. We believe we can do it by ourselves. We know that we are being sabotaged by Babylonian politricks. But we don't accept any inability, cause we know we can do it.
I hope to see that kind of consciousness arise in the Bantus of the south.
My apologies again.
Peace man. I'd like to state that I am only here to learn and if I see anything that is evidence to the contrary of what I 'believe' then I change my position (e.g Lamin mentioned something about North Korea not being in the same sanction situation as Zimbabwe. I might not have acknoleged that but I learned and know bwtter now). Soth Afrikans (not all Afrikans) are very lazy my. Nigerians; Horners; other Southern Afrikans; etc come here and outdo us...so, the people just attack them and say we're different on the basis of them being 'darker' than majority of us. It is the Zulu and the Xhosa who perpetrators of these stupid xenophobic attacks on other Afrikans and to make it worse the Pakistanis, Indians, Chinese etc are always left untouched. I believe we have to educate our people and the findings shared here must somehow make their way into the classroom.
Posted by Ausar Amen8 (Member # 20085) on :
quote:Originally posted by kikuyu22: People may find amen8s' observations uncomfortable but as blacks we must be honest with each other! Too many times we shy away from unpleasant realities and refuse to see our own self sabotaging tendencies. Kenyan friends and family in SA have frequently confirmed exactly what he says. Trust me-many SA blacks are truly uninterested in owning and farming land or any other worthwhile venture.
Thankh you mate
Posted by Ausar Amen8 (Member # 20085) on :
quote:Originally posted by lamin:
quote:People may find amen8s' observations uncomfortable but as blacks we must be honest with each other! Too many times we shy away from unpleasant realities and refuse to see our own self sabotaging tendencies. Kenyan friends and family in SA have frequently confirmed exactly what he says. Trust me-many SA blacks are truly uninterested in owning and farming land or any other worthwhile venture.
How many people do agriculture in Europe or America? Less than 6% in the U.S. with a lot of the hard work done by migrants from Mexico and other Central American parts.
In Europe it's less than 10% with some of the hard work done by migrants from Africa and elsewhere.
Similarly in South Africa, black South Africans work and produce on the white-settler occupied farms. Do you think whites do any of the growing, hoeing and picking on those farms. The most they do is run to the bank for credit to buy pesticides, tractors, fertilisers, etc.
Know this: 1) The blacks work in the mines. Not the whites.
2) Agricultural work on the farms: apple farms, wheat farms, grape farms, maize farms, etc. are all done be blacks.
So where do you get the idea that blacks don't work on the land?
The settler whites, as I said, only get bank credit which they use to finance growing on the farms. And how many whites of a population of approximately 5 million work on farms. I am sure it's not more than 20,000.
All the universities have to do is to train blacks in agronomy and business administration and in you easily come up with 20,000 replacements for the whites in 4 years.
Step 1: nationalise the farms and the mines
Step 2: replace the white settlers with trained business admin. cadres. Simple.
But the brainwashed white-worshipping ANC refuse to do just the few simple things that would benefit the Africans.
I agree Lamin, however I am telling you about the attitudes of Black people in our country as of today. We, me and my friends, have started a group, we've sent 5 people to study agriculture (the management and financial part of it), others will study engineering and then we shall exploit the government's willingness to subsidise Afrikans by buying them the land and that's how it goes. The other thing is you know Afrikans, very clever with the academics, are misusing the degrees they qualify for, using them ONLY to feed themselves and never to solve Afrika's problems which is what we must do with knowledge. Anyway a certain young oke named Julius Malema actually mobilized the entire Afrilan youth preaching what you have said above there, guess what they did to him? Banned him! The ANC is pathetic hey. Malema said that Afrikans should not negotiate for the land since the settlers did not negotiate either, he also is pushing for the nationalisation of mines despite being banned. However, there are doubts as to this because the ANC is corrupt and loot the state money, never delivers services and thus affecting the growth which we should be seeing. So, it is this lack of effective management and laziness to work which I am saying South Afrikans suffer from and NOT inability.
Posted by kikuyu22 (Member # 19561) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: How to recognize a real black leader.
1) Jewish media will attempt to marginalize them, I.E. Cynthia McKenny
2) White mainstream will identify and label them, I.E., Rev. Wright/Louis Farrakhan
3) Will suddenly come down with a rare illness, I.E., brain cancer; Reggie Lewis
4) Brought and paid for Negro leaders will ignore or denounce them.
Of course! How did I forget that?
Posted by kikuyu22 (Member # 19561) on :
kikuyu22 - Seven inches huh?
Damn, I don't know if I could handle it, but I guess that I would be duty-bound to try - at least once.
quote:
Find a Ugandan,Tanzanian,Zambian,Congolese,Rwandese or Burundian.But be careful with the last 2-Tutsis are often 6 foot+ and can kick bite and scratch. Make sure the mattress is rubberised and there are no visitors,thin walls or invalids who will bleat about continuous moans,groans,screams or loud noises. Then,you're good to go!!
Posted by Doug M (Member # 7650) on :
quote:Originally posted by lamin:
quote:People may find amen8s' observations uncomfortable but as blacks we must be honest with each other! Too many times we shy away from unpleasant realities and refuse to see our own self sabotaging tendencies. Kenyan friends and family in SA have frequently confirmed exactly what he says. Trust me-many SA blacks are truly uninterested in owning and farming land or any other worthwhile venture.
How many people do agriculture in Europe or America? Less than 6% in the U.S. with a lot of the hard work done by migrants from Mexico and other Central American parts.
In Europe it's less than 10% with some of the hard work done by migrants from Africa and elsewhere.
Similarly in South Africa, black South Africans work and produce on the white-settler occupied farms. Do you think whites do any of the growing, hoeing and picking on those farms. The most they do is run to the bank for credit to buy pesticides, tractors, fertilisers, etc.
Know this: 1) The blacks work in the mines. Not the whites.
2) Agricultural work on the farms: apple farms, wheat farms, grape farms, maize farms, etc. are all done be blacks.
So where do you get the idea that blacks don't work on the land?
The settler whites, as I said, only get bank credit which they use to finance growing on the farms. And how many whites of a population of approximately 5 million work on farms. I am sure it's not more than 20,000.
All the universities have to do is to train blacks in agronomy and business administration and in you easily come up with 20,000 replacements for the whites in 4 years.
Step 1: nationalise the farms and the mines
Step 2: replace the white settlers with trained business admin. cadres. Simple.
But the brainwashed white-worshipping ANC refuse to do just the few simple things that would benefit the Africans.
Agreed. The Africans of South Africa aren't physically lazy. They are the ones doing most of the work and have been doing so for quite a while. However, they are lazy in another way, and that is in the sense of being nationalistic. It is lazy to believe and act as if the situation in South Africa will change for the betterment of blacks by itself with no effort on the part of blacks to put a system in place to guarantee that outcome. That is the nationalist paradigm: a framework of laws, institutions, organizations and policies that uphold and support the well being and interests of the community economically, politically, socially and culturally. No such framework exists in South Africa or any other part of Africa today. What exists is a framework to uphold, support the well being and prosperity of other people. Therefore, Africans are guilty of being lazy in the sense that they would rather work under the current system, knowing full well they don't get any real benefits, rather than doing the hard work of building a totally new system from scratch for themselves.
Now to put this in context, look at the last 500 years and how Europeans have done the hard work of subjugating and conquering millions of people world wide in order to bring about a system for their own well being and progress. They didn't wait for or expect anyone else to do this for them. Unfortunately, not only has this system dominated other people physically, but it has also dominated them mentally by promoting itself as "progress" for all and the way to the future, which is nothing but propaganda to get the support of the people even at the same time they are being decimated.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by kikuyu22:
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: How to recognize a real black leader.
1) Jewish media will attempt to marginalize them, I.E. Cynthia McKenny
2) White mainstream will identify and label them, I.E., Rev. Wright/Louis Farrakhan
3) Will suddenly come down with a rare illness, I.E., brain cancer; Reggie Lewis
4) Brought and paid for Negro leaders will ignore or denounce them.
Of course! How did I forget that?
Very likely because none of these posted responses actually address the thread topic. Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: racism usually occurs when the size of a "minority" population is perceived to be large enough to be a threat or seen as competative with a majority. When the population is smaller than that the epopel are seen as an interesting "novelty"
Nonsense! Racism exists to elevate the self esteem of albinos and to pay back "normals" for their historic albino abuse.
Why & how was it possible for descendants of European Cagots to erase most traces of their history?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by kikuyu22: kikuyu22 - Seven inches huh?
Damn, I don't know if I could handle it, but I guess that I would be duty-bound to try - at least once.
quote:
Find a Ugandan,Tanzanian,Zambian,Congolese,Rwandese or Burundian.But be careful with the last 2-Tutsis are often 6 foot+ and can kick bite and scratch. Make sure the mattress is rubberised and there are no visitors,thin walls or invalids who will bleat about continuous moans,groans,screams or loud noises. Then,you're good to go!!
Gee! There is this Rwandan Tutsi girl that has been eyeing me for a while. Amma call her up today.
Wish me luck, man... Posted by Doug M (Member # 7650) on :
Here is what I mean about South Africans being lazy:
quote: Controversial remarks by the last white president of South Africa, F.W. de Klerk, in which he validated the origins of "separate but equal" nation states, have been used by critics "unfairly out of context," his foundation said.
"The FW de Klerk Foundation regrets that the comments that FW de Klerk made in his recent interview with Christiane Amanpour of CNN have been taken so unfairly out of context," the foundation said in a statement Friday.
"The question that she asked related to the policies that he had supported when he was a young man -- and his reply centered on his view that, though idealistic at the time, they had resulted in the unacceptable injustices of apartheid," said the foundation, whose founder and chairman is de Klerk.
In the CNN interview, de Klerk would not back off his belief in the validity of the original concept of "separate but equal" nation states.
That remark provoked criticism, including on Twitter where some South Africans said de Klerk isn't worthy of the 1993 Nobel Peace Prize he shared with Nelson Mandela for ending South Africa's apartheid regime.
Deklerk says that the African system of Townships was a "good idea". There is no way that someone like DeKlerk or any of the other architects and rulers of apartheid should be living in South Africa (or anywhere in Africa) comfortably enjoying the benefits of all their ill gotten gains. Yet that is precisely what is happening. And make no mistake about it, these white folks still see blacks as dumb monkeys and chimps who wouldn't know civilization if it kicked them in the head and are proud of what they did in Africa...... Because they are nationalists and nationalists define themselves on what they can do for themselves and the nation and it doesn't matter who they have to rape, kill, murder or exploit to do it. Meanwhile in Africa Land, black folks are simply content to ride the back of the bus and just be part of a nation someone else built with no real benefits and therefore lazy in terms of being true nationalists. Being a nationalist doesn't mean just having the right to vote.
And as far as racists still living comfortably in Africa, you can go all over Africa and see it. From cattle ranchers to plantation owners, mine owners and safari companies you have a whole bunch of elite whites still in Africa with separate settlements and exclusive enclaves where blacks are not allowed. Ian Smith the notorious racist from Rhodesia lived out the rest of his days in peace within Zimbabwe and South Africa.
And DeKlerk was the one who set Mandela free under the condition that the whites kept all the land and wealth in the country. So in reality De Klerk didn't do anything except allow for white economic domination to continue and prevail in South Africa:
quote: De Klerk moved quickly. In October 1989, a month after succeeding Botha, he released Mandela's political mentor, Walter Sisulu, and seven other prominent Robben Island prisoners. De Klerk says: "When I first met Mandela we did not discuss anything of substance, we just felt each other out. He spent a long time expressing his admiration for the Boer generals and how ingenious they were during the Anglo-Boer war. We did not discuss the fundamental problems or our political philosophies at all.
"Later, during the negotiations, it became clear that there was a big divide. On the economic side, the ANC was fundamentally socialistic, the influence of the Communist party was pervasive and they wanted nationalisation. They also wanted to create an unelected government of national unity which would organise elections. We insisted on governing until a new constitution had been negotiated and adopted by parliament."
De Klerk's successive negotiated victories potentially saved South Africa from the post-colonial governance void suffered by many other countries on the continent. They also entrenched minority rights constitutionally and set the country on a capitalist path. "The government that came into power after the April 1994 elections was going to need a budget. It was drafted by our finance minister, Derek Keys, and he convinced them of the necessity to stay within the free-market principles that had been in force in South Africa for decades. The ANC has stuck to these principles and that is one of the great positives."
There was no "free market" in South Africa yet to hear them tell it that system needed to be kept in place by the ANC. LOL!
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
In the US, I've been unfortunate to have to work in four-five different environments with NEGRO south Africans. In each case, these Negroes were house Negro Uncle Toms, who had the overwhelming compulsion to snitch and key-tow to Albinos. Every single one of them had Hermain Cain-like mentalities. These Negro South Africans can't be trusted as far as one can toss an elephant.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Like the southern Albino in the United States, I have long had an interest in the South African Negro. As a Black man, their history is very unsettling, and seems to prove the Albinos stereotype.
They had overwhelming numerical superiority, yet were ruled by Albinos for almost 200 years. The military and police forces that subjugated them were NOT Albino, but rather people hired out of their own communities.
It took them almost 200 hundred years to figure out that the way to stop the Albino mans abuse, was to stop the Negroes he had hired to do the work.
When freedom came, they elected to maintain the status-quo of Albinos running everything, and continuing to accumulate all the wealth, in the misguided belief that one day they would be able to take over.
But if the example of the second president Thabo Mbeki, is any indicator (he denied that AIDS existed), modern South Africans lack the intelligence necessary to run a country of any kind, much less a modern country.
And their understanding of foreign affairs is no better, note their bumbling handling of the Libyan affair. As Blacks, we need to study South Africa and South Africans. There is a cautionary tale there, as to how we should NOT act and think.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
Racism exists to elevate the self esteem of albinos and to pay back "normals" for their historic albino abuse.
It seems like you're saying can't blame them for coming up with racism, otherwise they would be abused like they are in Africa
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ Well, as you know, for some insane reason, Jews consider themselves as a separate "race" from their gentile brethren, in spite of the obvious fact they both are Albino derived. Why would Jews feel this way with outward contempt for Gentiles except for the manner in which Gentiles treated them in Europe as slaves, and later, as shunned and ghetto isolated Cagots.
While these European Gentiles were free to interbreed with people of color, diluting their OCA genetic defects, Jews were shunned and forced to interbreed with OCA carrier <-> OCA carrier, or OCA1 albino to OCA1 Albino. This very likely resulted in a ultra disease ridden mutate, the Cagot.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ Well, as you know, for some insane reason, Jews consider themselves as a separate "race" from their gentile brethren, in spite of the obvious fact they both are Albino derived. Why would Jews feel this way with outward contempt for Gentiles except for the manner in which Gentiles treated them in Europe as slaves, and later, as shunned and ghetto isolated Cagots.
While these European Gentiles were free to interbreed with people of color, diluting their OCA genetic defects, Jews were shunned and forced to interbreed with OCA carrier <-> OCA carrier, or OCA1 albino to OCA1 Albino. This very likely resulted in a ultra disease ridden mutate, the Cagot.
I wasn't talking about Jews
There are approximately 1.376 billion 'white' people in the world, approximately 20.25% of the world's population. The number of Jews in the world of any race is 13-14 million. Even of they were all white they would be under 1% of whites
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
Racism exists to elevate the self esteem of albinos and to pay back "normals" for their historic albino abuse.
It seems like you're saying can't blame whites for coming up with racism, otherwise they would be abused
Posted by Ausar Amen8 (Member # 20085) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Like the southern Albino in the United States, I have long had an interest in the South African Negro. As a Black man, their history is very unsettling, and seems to prove the Albinos stereotype.
They had overwhelming numerical superiority, yet were ruled by Albinos for almost 200 years. The military and police forces that subjugated them were NOT Albino, but rather people hired out of their own communities.
It took them almost 200 hundred years to figure out that the way to stop the Albino mans abuse, was to stop the Negroes he had hired to do the work.
When freedom came, they elected to maintain the status-quo of Albinos running everything, and continuing to accumulate all the wealth, in the misguided belief that one day they would be able to take over.
But if the example of the second president Thabo Mbeki, is any indicator (he denied that AIDS existed), modern South Africans lack the intelligence necessary to run a country of any kind, much less a modern country.
And their understanding of foreign affairs is no better, note their bumbling handling of the Libyan affair. As Blacks, we need to study South Africa and South Africans. There is a cautionary tale there, as to how we should NOT act and think.
LOL! Mike my friend if you're truly interested in the 'negro' South African (most South Afrikan Blacks actually think 'Negro' is the ethnic for American Blacks) you would actually study the conditions and the circumstances under which those who opposed the apartheid system operated in. The history of Black South Afrikans is never one of unity, even today, and the whites used this relationship or lack thereof to their advantage. Most Afrikan-Americans have heard of the Zulu but how many know that the Xhosa were the first to oppose and go into war agaisn the whites? Yes the Xhosa (along with the Khoi) were the first to interact the Europeans but talking modern day political activists, they were majority Xhosa and had to fight against the whites AND the Zulu! The Zulu gruop Inkatha freedom Party actually sided with the whites killing Xhosa wherever they found them. Young boys were castrasted when found (I remember I was made to dress in a dress and stayed at a womens hostel. I never understood why until now that I am older. My mom is Xhosa and my Dad is Zulu). So to just talk of negro south afrikans going 200 years to realise that they must fight the system is very ignorant.
Posted by Ausar Amen8 (Member # 20085) on :
Oh an the other thing, this Mike guy seems to ignore one other thing: how British oppressors usually operate - they are good pretenders- they ruled South Afrika n much the same that they still rule the US of America yet Mike probably things he's free (or has a greater degree of freedom South Afrikan Blacks of then and now), but what are you exacltly 'more free' to do that South Afrikans couldn't do before 1948? It was the stupid style of governership of the Dutch Boers that galvanised South AFrikans into action. So, study each case without the biased beliefs you readily show. Thank you.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ Ausar, there is always a reason for psychological dysfunction. Today, with the free flow availability of information, the choice is simply if you wish to embrace and wallow in this dysfunction, or do you choose to do something about it.
Of course, Albinos will never approve of any real effective psychiatric re-evaluation methods to correct symptoms of centuries old Stockholm syndrome in blacks, as they have done for whites. But that's completely understandable. In the presence of these type of deprogramming options, Albinos would be greatly disadvantaged, and they would have greater difficulty in following the same path as they have done for hundreds of years.
The bottom line for blacks is, following hundreds of years of failed strategies, one must make the decision to leave these failed choices behind and try something radically different. maintaining failed strategies will only ensure continued future failures. isn't that obvious? It should be in a logical data processing mind.
@Narmer, it is obvious that we Blacks have to create our own everything; whether by reinterpretation or a complete overhaul of western influences but everything must reflect us (to the core) if we are to survive as a 'race'; culture; etc. The mantality part is critical. And we must realise that this holds true for every Black group out there and not just those in South Afrika only, as Mike seeks to diagnose us with a lot more 'whiteman disease' (imitation of whatever whites uphold and their 'worship' by Blacks I call 'whiteman disease' as per Malcolm X)1
Posted by TruthAndRights (Member # 17346) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ausar Amen8: Oh an the other thing, this Mike guy seems to ignore one other thing: how British oppressors usually operate - they are good pretenders- they ruled South Afrika n much the same that they still rule the US of America yet Mike probably things he's free (or has a greater degree of freedom South Afrikan Blacks of then and now), but what are you exacltly 'more free' to do that South Afrikans couldn't do before 1948? It was the stupid style of governership of the Dutch Boers that galvanised South AFrikans into action. So, study each case without the biased beliefs you readily show. Thank you.
If you go back through various threads, you will find that Mike doesn't have a very high opinion of Continental African People period (to put it mildly)....
as an aside-
I could very well be wrong on this- in a thread not too long ago, I seem to recall him (Mike) mentioning he is not residing in the U.S., but somewhere in Europe....again, I could be wrong....
Posted by Ausar Amen8 (Member # 20085) on :
quote:Originally posted by TruthAndRights:
quote:Originally posted by Ausar Amen8: Oh an the other thing, this Mike guy seems to ignore one other thing: how British oppressors usually operate - they are good pretenders- they ruled South Afrika n much the same that they still rule the US of America yet Mike probably things he's free (or has a greater degree of freedom South Afrikan Blacks of then and now), but what are you exacltly 'more free' to do that South Afrikans couldn't do before 1948? It was the stupid style of governership of the Dutch Boers that galvanised South AFrikans into action. So, study each case without the biased beliefs you readily show. Thank you.
If you go back through various threads, you will find that Mike doesn't have a very high opinion of Continental African People period (to put it mildly)....
as an aside-
I could very well be wrong on this- in a thread not too long ago, I seem to recall him (Mike) mentioning he is not residing in the U.S., but somewhere in Europe....again, I could be wrong....
Exactly! I have been going through some threads the past few weeks and I saw how he thinks of "the continental Negro"...to him everything is a game in which he can just talk and what he says is. LOL. He argues that South Afrikans must be like "albinos" because we apparently let them rule us for 200 years, yet I am sure he has never questioned how a highly advanced people like Kamau (and indeed the entire Nile valley) ever lost self rule to those desperate desert dwellers and how they could 'allow' their former students, the Greeks to rule the country. ****My view is that though they lost control of the land, they certainly did not recognize those foreign kings (from the Heka khasut to the later Asiatics and Greeks) and had their own legitimate Kings/Queens. A similar situation in S. Afrika, the indigenous people have never recognized the rulership of the whites, those in the townships are the exception. Please note; in South Afrka there are the rural Blacks and the urban ones and the urban ones are those I have been refering to when I argued that South Afrikans are lazy, are white arse lickers etc
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Integration is working but very slowly. For those interested in separation you need land for that. It's never going to happen in America because there already exists Africa. Few American blacks support African development in a substancial way. It would be best to select one nation to do this, to start with, but people aren't doing this, they would rather cry about historical "psychological syndromes" and "albinos" . The psychological syndrome is not loving Africa like Jews love Israel.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ Understanding the very nature of your enemy is a requirement of any successful campaign. Getting to the source of WHY albinos hate and attempt genocide on all people of color is answered by, Albinism, which effects whites both physically, and mentally.
Over the last few decades Albinos have forced US blacks out of the country and into the cities for various reasons which play into the Albino plan.
In the 1930-40s, 13% of all US farm land was owned and cultivated by blacks. Today, due to racial discriminatory laws, Banks, Predatory mortgages, and psychological trauma, blacks own less than 1% of US farms. Who does this benefit? Jews, who control the cultivation and distribution of not only foodstuff in the US, by worldwide. While they peddle genetically altered grains and Pink Slime to black & white consumers for consumption, they consume Kosher products prohibiting these same inferior products from their diets. Albinos have the goal of creating division within all of their enemies. this includes blacks, other people of color, Gentile albinos, and even Jews not of the Zionist program. One of these divisions is the schism between Blacks worldwide such as African American and native Africans, Native Africans and Caribbean Africans, Black against white, black against Asian, etc. It was Jews who originally created the derogatory term, Nigga, and it was Jews who propagated the term to other countries, where Japanese freely use the term. However, it was Jews who also created and propagated the derogatory term for Asians (Japs, Chinks, slant eyes, etc.), and have other cultures referring to them using these phases. Their plan is elegant and as we see from their control of the world today, very effective.
Africa is even more extreme. Whereas they once owned/controlled all of Africa, now they control likely, less than 20-30%.
Posted by kikuyu22 (Member # 19561) on :
The question remains with an addendum;are there any true black leaders and if not what is to be done. I've noticed an unfortunate universal trend among ALL negroes-to identify the problem,talk and discuss it to death but stop short of meaningful suggestions to improve things. Lets hear what we can do. Lion,how did it go with Ms.Tutsi?!
Posted by Oshun (Member # 19740) on :
"Theres a reason why white people use the internet, make no leaders and are adamant about internet neutrality when forming movements. Cause public figures who REALLY want to help who step out into the public GET KILLED EXILED OR GET SENT TO JAIL. "
Organize online anonymously.
Use proxies to keep IP anonymous.
Form movements WITH NO LEADERS.
Run around in masks in so that the powers that be cant identify those against em individually.
Teach blacks how to use the internet.
Make databases and resources for US to teach OUR history to OUR people. Keep blacks educated so they arent walking target signs for misinformation.
Get blacks on major petition networks to overwhelm policy makers through COLLECTIVE EFFORTS. If we devoted the black community from all over the US we'd overwhelm lawmakers with feedback.
White people realized that if they wait for a SPECIFIC leader to save them they're gonna be screwed. Black people need to do the same. Movements based on consensus not leaders. the technology's here to do it. Though blacks have less internet access and know less about how to use it than whites...
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