Bulshit Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
The original arms of kingdom of Aragon
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
I know the first picture of black Moors fighting Christian is fake because the Moors are to ugly.One Moor have red eye, the other Moor have red mouth with unkepted hair.Moors in their potraits and sketchs are always handsome, eleguant and sophisticated.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Is fake because Christians were NoT white but black!
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
White People in medieval time were portraits like Wild man
Come on now, are you a Mike acolyte. Think for yourself now and don't be like a Jim Jones true-believer.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
malibudusul stay strong in speaking the truth. The Albinos have inserted many Albino moles here to confuse and confound Blacks seeking knowledge of their stolen past. Perhaps the following will help you to fight off the evil forces of the Whites.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: malibudusul stay strong in speaking the truth. The Albinos have inserted many Albino moles here to confuse and confound Blacks seeking knowledge of their stolen past. Perhaps the following will help you to fight off the evil forces of the Whites.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Aside from creating fake artifacts to support their lying history, the Albinos often simply mis-label authentic artifacts.
Let us discus The Battle of Roncevaux Pass (French/English spelling), Roncesvalles in Spanish, (Orreaga in Basque), between the "Franks" and the Basques.
LYING PORTRAYED BY THE ALBINOS AS A BATTLE BETWEEN ALBINOS AND MOORS.
Note that this picture is labeled "Roland strikes at the Battle of Roncesvalles".
The problem is that Roland was not a king, of all the people involved, only "Charlemagne" was the Emperor/King. Thus the person with the crown was Charlemagne, but to admit that, is to admit that Albino history is a lie.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^This explains to some degree, how the Albinos use real history as a basis for their own lying history.
The Battle of Roncesvalles and the Song of Roland.
Background: Wiki
In 774 Husayn of Zaragoza (in the Arabic sources Al Hossain ibn Yahia al Ansari ibn Saad al Obadi), who was Wali (governor) of Zaragoza: now the Spanish province of Aragón. Conspired with the Yemenite aristocracy against the Emir, proclaiming the rule of the Abbasid (Arab) Caliphate in Hispania. In response, the Emir sent general Abd al-Melek bin Umar, who obtained the allegiance of Abu Taur of Huesca and the Wali of Tudela, but who was rejected (defeated?) in Zaragoza.
In 777, the Wali of Barcelona, Sulayman al-Arabi (Suleiman bin Ioctan al-Quelbi in the Arabic sources) offered Charlemagne his own allegiance and the allegiance of Husayn (now in Paderborn Germany?). But when in 778 Charlemagne arrived in Zaragoza, Husayn denied any promise. As Charlemagne could not take the city, he withdrew after a month, which then led to the Battle of Roncevaux Pass. In 780 Husayn had Sulayman al-Arabi killed after he returned to Zaragoza.
In 781 the Emir Abd ar-Rahman I sent general Tsalaba ben Obaid to re-take Zaragoza for the Caliphate. After a long siege, Husayn agreed to a truce. His son, Said bin Husayn, was given to the Emir as a hostage. According to the historian al-Nuwayri, Husayn was killed soon after his surrender.
Encyclopædia Britannica The Battle of Roncesvalles
Roncesvalles of northern Spain in the Pyrenees, northeast of Pamplona and near the French frontier. This pass is the traditional site of the Battle of Roncesvalles (Aug. 15, 778), in which the Basques (Visigoths) ambushed and totally wiped out the rear guard of the Frankish army as they were returning across the mountains to Aquitaine after Charlemagne had ravaged several towns south of the Pyrenees and had razed Pamplona. The Frankish army was led by the seneschal Eggihard, the count palatine Anselm, and Roland, prefect of the March of Brittany. The battle forms the basis of the legend of the hero Roland recounted in the epics La Chanson de Roland and Roncesvalles.
In La Chanson de Roland the attackers are the Moors, and the rear guard is commanded by Charlemagne’s nephew Roland, who is accompanied by his comrade Oliver and by Archbishop Turpin. Roland, urged by Oliver to sound his horn to recall the main army, is too proud to do so; when the blast is at last blown, it is too late for the returning army to do anything but avenge the main army’s deaths. A similar fate was avoided (811) by Louis I (the Pious), or “le débonnaire,” then king of Aquitaine, who forced the wives and children of the local inhabitants to go through the pass with his army.
The Battle of Roncesvalles: History and Legend
By Robert llizo
August 15, marks the 1,233rd anniversary of the Battle of Roncesvalles, a pitch battle fought by a contingent of Charlemagne’s army led by Roland, the prefect of the Breton March, against a Basque attack on the Roncesvalles pass while Roland’s men were on the retreat. This battle gave birth, about four-hundred years later, to one of the most celebrated epic poems in French literature, Le Chanson de Roland (The Song of Roland). Written in Middle French, it is celebrated as a landmark of French vernacular literature.
The earliest copy of the Chanson dates back to ca. 1098, in the midst of the First Crusade. It is part of a larger piece of work titled Chansons du Geste.
The story, as the anonymous author relates it in his poetic genius is cast as a major battle between Charlemagne’s Christian paladins against the infidel forces of Marsila, the Saracen king of Zaragoza. King Marsila, who reigns in the last remaining stronghold of Zaragoza, devises a plot to fool Charlemagne into leaving Spain for good. He promises Charlemagne that he will be his vassal, and convert to Christianity, in return for him leaving Spain. Once back in France, however, Marsila reneges on his promise, and Charlemagne and his paladins, now in no mood to keep fighting the long war, plan to send an embassy to Marsila to negotiate on the agreed settlement.
Roland, a true, brave and faithful paladin, chooses his stepfather Ganelon to head the envoy. Ganelon, who plays the part of Judas in the story, would betray his stepson because of a long-held hatred and jealousy towards him. He views Roland’s choosing him for this mission as a way to have him killed, given the potential danger involved. Once he is received at Marsila’s court, he concludes a plot to have Roland killed by telling the Saracen king that he could attack the rear guard as Charlemagne leaves Spain. The one leading the rear guard is none other than Roland.
Assisted by the twelve paladins, Charlemagne’s most trusted and beloved peers Roland, leads the march back to France, only to be overrun by a vastly superior Saracen force at the Roncesvalles pass. Oliver and Archbishop Turpin of Rheims, two of the paladins, fight bravely along with Roland. Oliver counsels Roland to blow his oliphant horn (Elephants' tusks) so that Charlemagne could return with a fresh contingent of knights to face the ambushing foe, but Roland refuses to do so. After the rear guard puts up a valiant fight, it is defeated, and so Roland blows the oliphant horn with such force that his temples burst, and he falls to his death. He is then escorted to paradise by Saints Michael and Gabriel.
The poem presents us with a crusading fervor and ethos that make it a product of its time. Events in Spain from the mid-eleventh century, as well as the new crusading movement encouraged by Pope Urban II’s sermon at Cleremont in 1095, inspire and shape the tale. The exploits of the Spanish knight El Cid, nee Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar, against the invading Almoravid armies from North Africa led by bin Yusuf, is a big inspiration for the tale.
While the actual historical Roland’s rear guard was ambushed by Basque Christians, and Charlemagne and the Abbasid governors Sulieman al-Arabi of Barcelona and his confederates, Husayn of Zaragoza and Abu-Taur of Huesca were allies against the Ummayad caliph of Cordoba, Abd-Al Rahman I, the poem simply paints a picture of a thorough-going crusading enterprise pitting Christian against Muslim. In other words, Charlemagne had Muslim allies, but the Chanson does not concern itself with this tricky detail, preferring to allow the crusading events of the time mold and shape the poetic retelling. The eighth century paladin Roland becomes, in the Chanson, the ideal Christian knight for the twelfth and thirteenth-century knights fighting in Acre and Jerusalem.
It should be remembered that European Black Christians had no problem with Black Arab Islamists in the Holy lands. The Crusades began only after Albino Turks took control of Islam and the holy lands. Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Yes They make artifacts and make it look old. They bury in a hole and then say they have found in an excavation! This thing is mentally ill! The penny dropped! Blacks are natives of europe rome was black and also the Celts. obviously Christians were black. White forged images for us to think that whites are Christian and Muslim blacks are from Africa. We have to check ancient texts
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Above is what really happened, please note how the Albinos will use that to create a totally lying saga.
The Song of Roland, as chanted before the battle of Hastings By Anne Caldwell Marsh-Caldwell
Link to Book Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
" By the fifteenth century there were dark-skinned Christians, light-haired Moors, hybrids of every shape and complexion in Castile."
It shows the faithful standing in the foreground on a terrace, looking up at the hand of God, as demons flee to the left and right. The subject is highly unusual, as is the topographically accurate depiction of medieval Paris, in which the Cathedral of Notre-Dame, the spire of Saint-Chapelle, the Pont Saint-Michel, and other monuments of the Île de la Cité (including the Hôtel de Nesle, where the figures stand) are immediately recognizable.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: Yes They make artifacts and make it look old. They bury in a hole and then say they have found in an excavation! This thing is mentally ill! The penny dropped! Blacks are natives of europe rome was black and also the Celts. obviously Christians were black. White forged images for us to think that whites are Christian and Muslim blacks are from Africa. We have to check ancient texts
Celtic Religion
Archaeologists believe that the Iron Age Celts had many gods and goddesses and that the Celts worshipped their gods through sacrifice, giving them valuable objects to keep them happy.
But material treasures weren't the only sacrifices - the Iron Age Celts sacrificed (killed) animals, and even humans, to their gods.
The Celts also sacrificed weapons to the gods by throwing them into lakes, rivers and bogs - places they considered special. At Llyn Cerrig Bach, archaeologists have found over 150 objects of bronze and iron, including spears, shields and swords.
The Celts paid great respect to the human head. Roman historians say they cut off the heads of their ancestors, and even their enemies, and worshipped the skulls.
The Celtic religion was closely tied to the natural world and they worshipped gods in sacred places like lakes, rivers, cliffs and bushes. The moon, the sun and the stars were especially important - the Celts thought that there were supernatural forces in every aspect of the natural world.
Druids
The druids were very important in Iron Age society but we know very little about them. They were the Celts' priests, responsible for all sorts of religious ceremonies. They were educated and powerful members of the tribe and were well respected by the other Celts. The main centre of the druids in Britain was Anglesey.
We know a little about the druids from descriptions by Roman historians. The Romans tried to limit the powers of the druids because they were so important in Iron Age society.
Like other European Iron Age tribal societies, the Celts practised a polytheistic religion. Many Celtic gods are known from texts and inscriptions from the Roman period. Rites and sacrifices were carried out by priests known as druids. The Celts did not see their gods as having human shapes until late in the Iron Age. Celtic shrines were situated in remote areas such as hilltops, groves, and lakes.
The Celts had literally hundreds of deities, some of which were unknown outside a single family or tribe, while others were popular enough to have a following that crossed lingual and cultural barriers. For instance, the Irish god Lugh, associated with storms, lightning, and culture, is seen in similar forms as Lugos in Gaul and Lleu in Wales. Similar patterns are also seen with the continental Celtic horse goddess Epona and what may well be her Irish and Welsh counterparts, Macha and Rhiannon, respectively.
Roman Invasions of Britain
In 55 BC, Celtic Britain was in turn invaded, this time by the Romans under Julius Caesar. Caesar's two invasions did not conquer Britain, but established it as a major trading partner of Rome. However, the Roman emperors wished to extend their domain to the island, and invasions were planned. A botched attempt was made under the emperor Caligula. Caligula's uncle and successor, Claudius, was the first emperor to oversee a successful invasion. Claudius arrived himself, bringing up to 38 war elephants with him.[2] When the Celts were finally defeated and Caratacus forced to flee to Wales, Claudius returned to Rome.
In the early AD 60s, the Celtic tribal queen Boudicca led a bloody revolt against Roman rule. While the governor Suetonius was pursuing a campaign on the isle of Anglesey, Boudicca, angered by maltreatment at the hands of the Romans, urged her people to rise up. They did, and marched on Camulodonum (now Colchester), where many former Roman soldiers had settled. Boudicca sacked London and pushed on to Verulamium (now St. Albans), which was also razed. Suetonius had gathered a large enough army, however, to do battle on the Roman road Watling Street. Boudicca was defeated, and Roman rule was restored to Britain.
Emperor Claudius 10 BC - 54 AD
Inroduction of Christianity to Britain
It is not clear when or how Christianity came to Britain. A 2nd century "word square" was discovered in Mamucium, the Roman settlement of Manchester. It consists of an anagram of PATER NOSTER carved on a piece of amphora. There has been discussion by academics whether the "word square" is actually a Christian artefact, but if it is, it is one of the earliest examples of early Christianity in Britain. The earliest confirmed written evidence for Christianity in Britain is a statement by Tertullian, c. 200 AD, in which he described "all the limits of the Spains, and the diverse nations of the Gauls, and the haunts of the Britons, inaccessible to the Romans, but subjugated to Christ".
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: Yes They make artifacts and make it look old. They bury in a hole and then say they have found in an excavation! This thing is mentally ill! The penny dropped! Blacks are natives of europe rome was black and also the Celts. obviously Christians were black. White forged images for us to think that whites are Christian and Muslim blacks are from Africa. We have to check ancient texts
Black Christians fighting against the white Moorish Muslims in the Crusades:
______^^ White Moorish Muslims_____________________^^ Black Christians Defending Europe__________
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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^My, my, note how only one of the Albino forces of lie and deceit remains after being confronted by the truth. Now ready to spin another version of lies. But that's how they won, some are totally dedicated to the evil of the White side, kinda like Suicide Bombers of history.
Away ye evil forces of Whiteness, away I say, AWAY!
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^^^ Mike, quiet, malibudisul is teaching. I'm trying to learn the new teachings. The student has surpassed the master. He has stumbled on the key to this problem and you're just jealous teach malibudisul
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
lioness, this is wild man and blacks from germany
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: (before edit) So you had Black Christians Defending against Black Moorish Muslims.
He,he,he: NO!
You had Albino TURKS fighting against Black Christians!
Ṣalāḥ al-Dīn Yūsuf ibn Ayyūb (1137/1138 – March 4, 1193), better known in the Western world as Saladin, was the first Sultan of Egypt and Syria and the founder of the Ayyubid dynasty. A Muslim of (Kurdish origins - a Turk), Saladin led Islamic opposition against the European Crusaders in the Levant. At the height of his power, his sultanate included Egypt, Syria, Mesopotamia, Hejaz, Yemen, and parts of North Africa.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Everyone note how after being hit with truth, the evil Albinos have to retreat and reorganize (under a rock someplace).
But the Melaninless ones will be back to spread NEW lies!
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
There is a painting that show black christian with afro hair, i see in a video.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Our Lady of Guadalupe was the most important Marian shrine in the medieval kingdom of Castile
Our Lady of Guadalupe is one of three Black Madonnas in Spain.
Mike by patience and perseverance you have discovered another black European king hidden in plain sight.The portrait of black king Charlemagne fighting the basque at the battle of Roncesvalles.I saw that picture before but the black king was presented as a Moorish king.I realise now he is not a Moorish king because his clothing and armor are Europeen not Moorish.
I think the same book in realhistoryww.com show France king Charle V as black.Bonampak painting show black French noblemen praying in front of the Cathedral Notre Dame of Paris.Thats the proof that there was black noblemen in Europe.
Lioness Celtic statue look like the statue of Ibo obelisk statue and Colombian mesoamerican black statue.The religion of the Celtic Druid ressemble the religion of the black Canaanite an West African.
I think Afrocentric researchers should send researchers to Mali to study and help digitise Malian medieval manuscripts.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by mena7: Mike by patience and perseverance you have discovered another black European king hidden in plain sight.The portrait of black king Charlemagne fighting the basque at the battle of Roncesvalles.I saw that picture before but the black king was presented as a Moorish king.I realise now he is not a Moorish king because his clothing and armor are Europeen not Moorish.
As I said previously, one of the Albinos favorite tricks is to simply mis-label or mis-identify authentic artifacts. Remember all of those famous Black Europeans who they call descendants of African Slaves? It's the same thing. You can't be lazy in this business mena7, if you don't do the research, the Albinos will fool you every time.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: lioness, this is wild man and blacks from germany
one of them is an invader. You said the blacks were Christian. That means the whites must have been the Muslim invaders
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Aside from creating fake artifacts to support their lying history, the Albinos often simply mis-label authentic artifacts.
Let us discus The Battle of Roncevaux Pass (French/English spelling), Roncesvalles in Spanish, (Orreaga in Basque), between the "Franks" and the Basques.
LYING PORTRAYED BY THE ALBINOS AS A BATTLE BETWEEN ALBINOS AND MOORS.
Note that this picture is labeled "Roland strikes at the Battle of Roncesvalles".
The problem is that Roland was not a king, of all the people involved, only "Charlemagne" was the Emperor/King. Thus the person with the crown was Charlemagne, but to admit that, is to admit that Albino history is a lie.
Notice how Mike completely scrambles up history in a blender. The painting above is called Battle of Roncevaux Pass. It was painted in the 14th century and depicts a battle that happened in 778 about six hundred years earlier. On the left is Roland, Charlemagne's nephew, the rear guard commander of Charlemagne's army. At right the Sarcean King Marsile. But Mike tells us the Sarcean King on the right is Charlemagne. This is called trying to pull "the old switcheroo" up is down, black is white, day is night.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Lioness, moor and chritians were black.
FOr me this is Bulshit Forgery we need search ancient texts Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: Lioness, moor and chritians were black.
FOr me this is Bulshit Forgery we need search ancient texts
white people didn't just pop up out of nowhere what's your date for whites starting out in Europe? It goes back to the beginning, check this out:
Look at Africa. Today Africans produce the most albino babies.
So when the Africans went into Europe 30,000 or more years ago they would have also been making some albinos. This was happening for many thousands of years before history was even written and eventually the numbers build up. The difference from Africa was that the albinos in Europe got together to protest their body parts being chopped off for magic charms. So after about 10,000 years of planning they formed an army and they took over and kicked out most of us black folk maybe like 20,000 years ago but they let a few stay like St. Maurice and so on if they was loyal, being good Chritians instead of their old Muslim ways
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: Look
This is the full size of the Wildmen and Moors tapestry:
It's mythological not historical.
__________________________^^^^ Here's another scene from the same tapestry where the wildman in the middle is killing a dragon and a unicorn on th right. These are decorative fabric art not not historical manuscripts
The wild man (also wildman, or "wildman of the woods", is a mythical figure that appears in the artwork and literature of medieval Europe, comparable to the satyr or faun type in classical mythology and to Silvanus, the Roman god of the woodlands. The wildmen appear in decorative works and heraldry.
would these image of the white killing blacks are the images of genocide?? The first image represent the image that black european think of whites. Blacks considered whites like wild men.
only a theory I think not because white is a cross on the helmet
Mena I can't found full ancient text of ancient historians free in internet. our research have that exit of internet here we not have material enough The material here is filtered by whites We have set up a research institute. something.
^^^^ this is a historical battle scene from a manuscript. Obviously these do not look like wildmen. At left the European holds a staight European sword
^^^^ Here we see the Moors with the curved Arabic sword
Battle of Roncevaux Pass. At left Charlemagne's nephew Roland rear guard commander of Charlemagne's army. At right the Sarcean King Marsile
Roland holds the European straight sword
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
When the stated reason for the war doesn't make sense, then you can assume that it was a Race War or a war with racial overtones.
we need to make up our minds, if the Germanic Frank king Charlemagne was actually black and the about paintings are fake than these are NOT RACE WARS.
malibduisul
look up
Muslim Conquest of Spain 711 AD
Crusades 1096 - 1272 AD
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The Crusades were a series of religious expeditionary wars blessed by Pope Urban II and the Catholic Church, with the stated goal of restoring Christian access to the holy places in and near Jerusalem. Jerusalem was and is a sacred city and symbol of all three major Abrahamic faiths (Judaism, Christianity and Islam). The background to the Crusades was set when the Seljuk Turks decisively defeated the Byzantine army in 1071 and cut off Christian access to Jerusalem. The Byzantine emperor, Alexis I, feared that all Asia Minor would be overrun. He called on western Christian leaders and the papacy to come to the aid of Constantinople by undertaking a pilgrimage or a crusade that would free Jerusalem from Muslim rule.Another cause was the destruction of many Christian sacred sites and the persecution of Christians under the Fatimid caliph Al-Hakim.
The crusaders comprised military units of Roman Catholics from all over western Europe, and were not under unified command. The main series of Crusades, primarily against Muslims in the Levant, occurred between 1095 and 1291. Historians have given many of the earlier crusades numbers. After some early successes, the later crusades failed and the crusaders were defeated and forced to return home. Several hundred thousand soldiers became Crusaders by taking vows; the Pope granted them plenary indulgence. Their emblem was the cross — the term "crusade" is derived from the French term for taking up the cross. Many were from France and called themselves "Franks," which became the common term used by Muslims.
The term "crusade" is also used to describe religiously motivated campaigns conducted between 1100 and 1600 in territories outside the Levant[a] usually against pagans, heretics, and peoples under the ban of excommunication for a mixture of religious, economic, and political reasons. Rivalries among both Christian and Muslim powers led also to alliances between religious factions against their opponents, such as the Christian alliance with the Islamic Sultanate of Rûm during the Fifth Crusade.
Charlemagne Karlstein castle A coin of Charlemagne with the inscription KAROLVS IMP AVG (Karolus Imperator Augustus)
Charlemagne Latin: Carolus or Karolus Magnus)
the King of the Franks from 768, the King of Italy from 774, the first Holy Roman Emperor, and the first emperor in western Europe since the collapse of the Western Roman Empire three centuries earlier.
The Romans after the fall of their empire were replaced by the Visigoths in Spain and the Franks and Visigoths to the north. Although they had the authority of state, these Germanic tribes were thinly settled at best
Charlemagne continued his father's policy towards the papacy and became its protector, removing the Lombards from power in Italy, and leading an incursion into Muslim Spain. He also campaigned against the peoples to his east, forcibly Christianizing them along the way (especially the Saxons), eventually subjecting them to his rule after a protracted war. Charlemagne reached the height of his power in 800 when he was crowned as "Emperor" by Pope Leo III on Christmas Day.
Charlemagne's wars with the Moors
The conquest of Italy brought Charlemagne in contact with the Saracens who, at the time, controlled the Mediterranean. Pippin, his son, was much occupied with Saracens in Italy. Charlemagne conquered Corsica and Sardinia at an unknown date and in 799 the Balearic Islands. The islands were often attacked by Saracen pirates, but the counts of Genoa and Tuscany (Boniface) kept them at bay with large fleets until the end of Charlemagne's reign. Charlemagne even had contact with the caliphal court in Baghdad. In 797 (or possibly 801), the caliph of Baghdad, Harun al-Rashid, presented Charlemagne with an Asian elephant named Abul-Abbas and a clock.
In Hispania, the struggle against the Moors continued unabated throughout the latter half of his reign. His son Louis was in charge of the Spanish border. In 785, his men captured Gerona permanently and extended Frankish control into the Catalan littoral for the duration of Charlemagne's reign (and much longer, it remained nominally Frankish until the Treaty of Corbeil in 1258). The Muslim chiefs in the northeast of Islamic Spain were constantly revolting against Cordovan authority, and they often turned to the Franks for help. The Frankish border was slowly extended until 795, when Gerona, Cardona, Ausona, and Urgel were united into the new Spanish March, within the old duchy of Septimania.
In 797 Barcelona, the greatest city of the region, fell to the Franks when Zeid, its governor, rebelled against Cordova and, failing, handed it to them. The Umayyad authority recaptured it in 799. However, Louis of Aquitaine marched the entire army of his kingdom over the Pyrenees and besieged it for two years, wintering there from 800 to 801, when it capitulated. The Franks continued to press forward against the emir. They took Tarragona in 809 and Tortosa in 811. The last conquest brought them to the mouth of the Ebro and gave them raiding access to Valencia, prompting the Emir al-Hakam I to recognize their conquests in 812.
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^^^^ Mike, race war ?
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Symbology.Lion and unicorn and dragon are the symbols of the British royalty.Lion and Unicorn are the symbol of the constelation Leo and Cancer.The Dragon are the synbol of the constelation Draco.The wild men killing the Lion and cancer symbolicaly mean they are killing the black King in the tapis.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by mena7: Symbology.Lion and unicorn and dragon are the symbols of the British royalty.Lion and Unicorn are the symbol of the constelation Leo and Cancer.The Dragon are the synbol of the constelation Draco.The wild men killing the Lion and cancer symbolicaly mean they are killing the black King in the tapis.
you make up a lot of bullshit
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
Richard III was a Christian king of England who died in battle in 1485. Now that's about 500 years ago. Question: who were his black ancestors? And when did they morph into whites?
Forensic researchers claimed to have found Richard's bones with the probability of more than 99% and they link him to a white Canadian descendant
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
How likely is this to be the true likeness of Richard III, the Christian English king.
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Mike I was watching Al Jazeera news last night monday 4 2013 were they showed the skeleton of the last Plantagenet Engkish King Richard III being unearthed.Something click in my mind right away I realised the Month of February is black History month.In black history month the British dig out the bones of Plantagenet King Richard III.The European elite is very symbol litterate they are maybe telling to the world that King Richard III was black or blackblooded.
African American elite are control by the White elite therefore the white elite are maybe responsible for black history month.
Lamin I intended to post that story in the morning.I dont think the white Richard III bust is real.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by lamin: Richard III was a Christian king of England who died in battle in 1485. Now that's about 500 years ago. Question: who were his black ancestors? And when did they morph into whites?
Forensic researchers claimed to have found Richard's bones with the probability of more than 99% and they link him to a white Canadian descendant
The House of Plantagenet
Carolingian Empire (800–888) is a historiographical term which has been used to refer to the realm of the Franks under the Carolingian dynasty in the Early Middle Ages. This dynasty is seen as the founders of France and Germany, and its beginning date is based on the crowning of Charlemagne, or Charles the Great, and ends with the death of Charles the Fat. This Empire can be seen as the later history of the Frankish Realm or the early history of France and of the Holy Roman Empire.
The Angevins, also known as the House of Anjou, were a noble family founded in the early years of the Carolingian Empire. They first emerged as part of the minor feudal nobility, in what would soon be known as the Kingdom of France during the 10th century. After Geoffrey III, Count of Anjou inherited Anjou from his mother in 1060, the family began to grow in prominence, soon acquiring Maine. After going on crusade and becoming close to the Knights Templar, the Kingdom of Jerusalem was received through marriage by Fulk of Jerusalem in 1131. The senior line of the family branched off to become the House of Plantagenet, assuming the nickname of Geoffrey V of Anjou, its founder, eventually going on to rule the Kingdom of England, Lordship of Ireland, Principality of Wales and various other holdings in the vast Angevin Empire in 1154.
The House of Plantagenet, a branch of the Angevins, was a royal house founded by Geoffrey V of Anjou, father of Henry II of England. Plantagenet kings first ruled the Kingdom of England in the 12th century. Their paternal ancestors originated in the French province of Gâtinais and gained the County of Anjou through marriage during the 11th century. The dynasty accumulated several other holdings, building the Angevin Empire that at its peak stretched from the Pyrenees to Ireland and the border with Scotland.
Edward III, House of Plantagenet (13 November 1312 – 21 June 1377) was King of England from 1327 until his death and is noted for his military success. Restoring royal authority after the disastrous reign of his father, Edward II, Edward III went on to transform the Kingdom of England into one of the most formidable military powers in Europe. His reign saw vital developments in legislation and government – in particular the evolution of the English parliament – as well as the ravages of the Black Death. He remains one of only five monarchs to have ruled England or its successor kingdoms for more than fifty years.
Edward was crowned at the age of fourteen, following the deposition of his father. When he was only seventeen years old, he led a coup against the de facto ruler of the country, his mother's consort Roger Mortimer, and began his personal reign. After a successful campaign in Scotland in 1333, he declared himself rightful heir to the French throne in 1337, starting what would become known as the Hundred Years' War. Following some initial setbacks, the war went exceptionally well for England; the victories of Crécy and Poitiers led to the highly favourable Treaty of Brétigny. Edward's later years, however, were marked by international failure and domestic strife, largely as a result of his inactivity and bad health.
Richard II, House of Plantagenet (6 January 1367 – c. 14 February 1400) was King of England, a member of the House of Plantagenet and the last of its main-line kings. He ruled from 1377 until he was deposed in 1399. Richard was a son of Edward, the Black Prince, and was born during the reign of his grandfather, Edward III. At the age of four, Richard became second in line to the throne when his older brother Edward of Angoulême died, then heir apparent when his father died in 1376. With Edward III's death the following year, Richard succeeded to the throne at the age of ten.
As an individual, Richard was tall, good-looking and intelligent. Though probably not insane, as earlier historians used to believe, he may have suffered from a personality disorder or disorders, which may have become more apparent toward the end of his reign. Less of a warrior than either his father or grandfather, he sought to bring an end to the Hundred Years' War that Edward III had started.
In total fifteen Plantagenet monarchs, including those belonging to cadet branches, ruled England from 1154 until 1485. The senior branch ruled from Henry II of England until the deposition of Richard II of England in 1399.
After that a junior branch, the House of Lancaster, ruled for some fifty years before clashing over control of England with another branch, the House of York, in a civil war known as the Wars of the Roses.
John, Duke of Lancaster - Son of Edward III and Philippa of Hainhault, father of Henry IV of England and husband of Blanche of Lancaster. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster was born on 6th March 1340. He gained his name "John of Gaunt" because he was born at Ghent.
The fabulously wealthy Gaunt exercised tremendous influence over the throne during the minority reign of his nephew, Richard II, and during the ensuing periods of political strife, but took care not to be openly associated with opponents of the King.
John of Gaunt's legitimate male heirs, the Lancasters, included Kings Henry IV, Henry V, and Henry VI. John of Gaunt's illegitimate descendants, who ultimately became legitimate by his marriage to Katherine Swynford in 1396, the Beauforts, later married into the House of Tudor, which ascended to the throne in the person of Henry VII.
In addition, Gaunt's legitimate descendants included his daughters Philippa of Lancaster, Queen consort of John I of Portugal and mother of King Edward of Portugal, Elizabeth, Duchess of Exeter, the mother of John Holland, 2nd Duke of Exeter, and Katherine of Lancaster, Queen consort of Henry III of Castile, a grand-daughter of Pedro of Castile and the mother of John II of Castile.
When John of Gaunt died in 1399, his estates were declared forfeit to the crown, as Richard II had exiled John's less diplomatic heir, Henry Bolingbroke, in 1398. Bolingbroke returned and deposed the unpopular Richard, to reign as King Henry IV of England (1399–1413), the first of the descendants of John of Gaunt to hold the throne of England.
After three ruling Lancastrian monarchs the crown passed to three Yorkist monarchs, the last of whom, Richard III, was killed in the Battle of Bosworth Field in 1485. The legitimate male line went extinct with the execution of Richard's nephew, Edward, Earl of Warwick in 1499. Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
The House of Tudor appears to be the first "Purely Albino" dynasty. Note the religious connections with the Albinos in Germany.
The House of Tudor
Henry VII, House of Tudor, was King of England and Lord of Ireland from his seizing the crown on 22 August 1485 until his death on 21 April 1509, as the first monarch of the House of Tudor. Henry won the throne when he defeated Richard III at the Battle of Bosworth Field. He was the last king of England to win his throne on the field of battle. He was successful in restoring the power and stability of the English monarchy after the political upheavals of the Wars of the Roses. He founded a long-lasting dynasty and was peacefully succeeded by his son, Henry VIII, after a reign of nearly 24 years.
Founder Henry VII of England Final sovereign Elizabeth I of England Founding 1485 Dissolution 1603
Henry VIII, House of Tudor, (28 June 1491 – 28 January 1547) was King of England from 21 April 1509 until his death. He was Lord, and later King, of Ireland, as well as continuing the nominal claim by the English monarchs to the Kingdom of France. Henry was the second monarch of the House of Tudor, succeeding his father, Henry VII. Besides his six marriages, Henry VIII is known for his role in the separation of the Church of England from the Roman Catholic Church. Henry's struggles with Rome led to the separation of the Church of England from papal authority, the Dissolution of the Monasteries, and establishing himself as the Supreme Head of the Church of England. His desire to provide England with a male heir—which stemmed partly from personal vanity and partly because he believed a daughter would be unable to consolidate the Tudor Dynasty and the fragile peace that existed following the Wars of the Roses—led to the two things that Henry is remembered for: his six marriages, and the English Reformation, which made England a mostly Protestant nation.
King Richard III look like white skull
Posted by Bonampak420 (Member # 20156) on :
quote:Originally posted by Bonampak420: Christians
It shows the faithful standing in the foreground on a terrace, looking up at the hand of God, as demons flee to the left and right. The subject is highly unusual, as is the topographically accurate depiction of medieval Paris, in which the Cathedral of Notre-Dame, the spire of Saint-Chapelle, the Pont Saint-Michel, and other monuments of the Île de la Cité (including the Hôtel de Nesle, where the figures stand) are immediately recognizable.
The albino remakes black white, or just paints it over, this is how he does it
quote:I write using a goose quill pen and I hold the parchment flat on my 15th c. type writing slope with my 15th c. type of pen knife. I make these tools to get a more authentic method in order that my work looks more correct.
^Excellent post Bonampak420, I didn't know that there was a webpage on how the Albinos create their fake Illuminated manuscript pictures.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
Come now Lioness, certainly you can do better than this!
You can't argue the facts, so you try to make light of the facts - How Juvenile!
He,he,he:
Even Cass and Doxie would turn up their noses at this embarrassing capitulation.
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Lioness can you please comment on the picture of the black French noblemen praying in front of the Notre Dame Cathedral.
According to John G M James of Stolen Legacy envy was the reason the Christian Roman close the Egyptian temple.I think envy is the reason the white European destroyed and hided the black European monarch and nobility paintings, statues and artifacts.Envy is the reason white European white paint over black people paintings.Envy is the reason they make fake contemporary Roman and Greek statues.There is the story of a colossal Greek statue find in the Greek sea, Some American university paid $10 million for it but the statue was fake carbon dating to the 1970.White people maked a fake statue and dump it in the sea.Envy is the reason white people show the Egyptian as white or Arab, they also pretend to be Egyptian in their private club.White academia cant stand that white European used to have a job whiping the butt, dumping excrement and washed the feet of black European king.Envy look like a mild sin compare to the other sin but in reality envy is the most evil sin.You hate what you envy.With money(exploitation and competition)envy is one of the cause of racism.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by mena7: Lioness can you please comment on the picture of the black French noblemen praying in front of the Notre Dame Cathedral.
According to John G M James of Stolen Legacy envy was the reason the Christian Roman close the Egyptian temple.I think envy is the reason the white European destroyed and hided the black European monarch and nobility paintings, statues and artifacts.Envy is the reason white European white paint over black people paintings.Envy is the reason they make fake contemporary Roman and Greek statues.There is the story of a colossal Greek statue find in the Greek sea, Some American university paid $10 million for it but the statue was fake carbon dating to the 1970.White people maked a fake statue and dump it in the sea.Envy is the reason white people show the Egyptian as white or Arab, they also pretend to be Egyptian in their private club.White academia cant stand that white European used to have a job whiping the butt, dumping excrement and washed the feet of black European king.Envy look like a mild sin compare to the other sin but in reality envy is the most evil sin.You hate what you envy.With money(exploitation and competition)envy is one of the cause of racism.
^^^ here you say "envy was the reason the Christian Roman close the Egyptian temple. I think envy is the reason the white European destroyed and hided the black European monarch and nobility paintings, statues and artifacts.Envy is the reason white European white paint over black people paintings"
If the Christian Romans were white then wouldn't the people in the below painting be white Christian Romans? The why white people might portray Egyptians is one thing and European paintings is another thing. There are black people in European paintings. If you say that some other Euroepan paintings were of black people but they were painted over as white people how do you know which painting? Where is the evidence. Mike has theories that there were multi millions of black people in medieval Europe. He says they went to war with white people in many race wars. He has no evidence but even if he did it still means there were both white people and blacks present in Europe. So how can look at some painting and know if it's fake if there were both blacks and whites living in Europe and fighting races wars. The barbarian Germanic tribes who lived in the German region came dowm Soth and went East to invade Roman territories and were already out of history before the Holy Roman Germans developed from them. So if white people were there in Europe you can;t just look at any painting and say it was fake or painted over. You need evidence for that. That would have to proven by microsope. So which paintings might be fake? Any ones you happen not to like?
Grisaille
Grisaille is a classical oil painting technique in which and underpainting in grey or brown is made as a first stage to establish light and dark areas of the painting. The grisaille layer is then allowed to dry and thin trasparent layers of colors (called glazes) are built up over it in stages, drying between each stage. The naked eye is unable to see the separation of the layers including the grisaille because each layer is directly on top of the previous layer. Some of thes layers can only be seen with x-ray photography techniques.
Leaf from the Hours of Étienne Chevalier: The Right Hand of God Protecting the Faithful against Demons, ca. 1452–60
Many of these old manuscript paintings have this kind of fading in the skin tones. Most of the painting is painted by a simpler method, your mix the color and put it on the surface. But with the skin they used a more complex method. They first paint the flesh without color. They use thinned out black that goes on gray or sometimes greenish gray. It looks like a charcoal drawing but it's done in paint. On top of this they paint the final color of white people's skin, light tannish white, sometimes with small touches of pink. This layer goes on very thin so it is partially trasparent and you can see the form of the gray under painting showing through. The effect is complex and has a depth to it.
The only problem is that that top layer is so thin that hundreds of years later it fades and the flesh starts looking an unpleasant grayish color that show throug form underneath.
At other times they sometimes use special paints for the skin tones but some of those paints change colors after hundreds of years and some of thes books had been in church libraries with a lot of candle soot in the air.
This painting The Right Hand of God Protecting the Faithful against Demons. I can't tell without looking at it in person or maybe at a much higher resolution image ( not just enlarged)
It is probably the damaged condition I mentioned otherwise this painting and others like it would have been included in books such as Image of the Black in Western Art.
This painting is from the Metropolitan Museum that is owned by white people. If those were black people in that painting they would say so. If you thing they wouldn't want to admit that then why would they have this painting available for you to even go on their website and look at? If they want to hide black people and the people in this painting wer black then they would not show this painting at all and you would not be able to see it on their webite. So the comspiracy theory makes no sense. If they goal was to hide black people they would show you this painting at all, or they would destroy ot or change the colors of the figures to white.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: So the conspiracy theory makes no sense. If they goal was to hide black people they would show you this painting at all, or they would destroy or change the colors of the figures to white.
That's kind of stupid Lioness. You are trying to suggest that all Albinos have the same motivations and goals. Most Albinos, as well as most Blacks, are completely oblivious to these issues.
The issue is Albinos with the position, power, and ability to effect the Albinos place. A great many of them correctly see it in their interest to hide and obfuscate Blacks of the past. If they didn't, then the uncomfortable question that I ask would have been asked a long time ago. Answering the question: "WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BLACKS IN EUROPE AND THE AMERICAS" will have very serious ramifications, and they know it.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
The British royals won't allow Royal skeletons to be examined. We KNOW what they are hiding!
NEWSSTORY FROM THE DAILY MAIL:
Richard, depicted by William Shakespeare as a monstrous tyrant who murdered two princes in the Tower of London, died at the Battle of Bosworth Field, defeated by an army led by Henry Tudor.
The king's nephews Edward and Richard were kept in the Tower of London, according to history recorded at the time, and 'stifled with pillows by the order of their perfidious uncle Richard the Usurper', according to the inscription on the urn their remains are kept in.
Leicester University's Turi King said this week they could take DNA from the princes and match it with Richard III to find if they were related.
But a Westminster Abbey spokeswoman told the Guardian: 'The recent discovery of Richard III does not change the abbey's position, which is that the mortal remains of two young children, widely believed since the 17th century to be the princes in tower, should not be disturbed.'
The Richard III Society, who were behind this week's confirmation of the monarch's identity, tried twice to get the urn opened in 1993 with the BBC and in 1995 with Channel 4.
But the Dean of Westminster the Very Rev Michael Mayne refused to allow carbon dating and DNA testing to get to the bottom of the mystery.
quote:Originally posted by mena7: Symbology.Lion and unicorn and dragon are the symbols of the British royalty.Lion and Unicorn are the symbol of the constelation Leo and Cancer.The Dragon are the synbol of the constelation Draco.The wild men killing the Lion and cancer symbolicaly mean they are killing the black King in the tapis.
you make up a lot of bullshit
Yes that picture you posted above is Saint George. The dragon he is killing is represented in Europe as the Moorish Kings.
Duncey skunt, Mena7 is right. You are wrong.
Fuked again! Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Cass - What is it with you degenerate Albinos???
Your Albinism denying, Black history denying, gets more ridiculous and pathetic every day!
Quote from "Painted Black in Europe" the first introduction, by art historian – curator – researcher, Esther Schreuder:
Quote: The first introduction to black people in the ‘Low Countries’ almost certainly occured between AD 200 and 500 when black Africans came to the region in the service of Roman armies.
The Low Countries are the historical lands around the low-lying delta of the Rhine, Scheldt, and Meuse rivers, including the modern countries of Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg and parts of northern France and western Germany.
Research at the University of Newcastle has revealed that black Romans were found in all ranks of the army and that most Roman armies were multi-ethnic. Some Roman emperors, such as Septimius Severus (145-211), were North African in origin. Severus probably marched through the Low Countries with his army in 209 and died in England in 211.
Eberhard van der Laan, Esther Schreuder, Bob Schiller
^They look harmless enough: could it be that they are just stupid and uneducated?
That was just a rhetorical question: Quite often, the more pathetic and harmless an Albino looks, the more Rabid they are.
As an example, look at the degenerates in the U.S. south: these are people with nothing in the way of personal merit, so they try to elevate themselves by abusing those that they have convinced themselves are lower than they.
As with the Albinos elsewhere, where they have superior numbers or power, they are able to get away with it. This success by virtue of power, acts to satisfy them, and encourage the next atrocity.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by mena7: Symbology.Lion and unicorn and dragon are the symbols of the British royalty.Lion and Unicorn are the symbol of the constelation Leo and Cancer.The Dragon are the synbol of the constelation Draco.The wild men killing the Lion and cancer symbolicaly mean they are killing the black King in the tapis.
you make up a lot of bullshit
Yes that picture you posted above is Saint George. The dragon he is killing is represented in Europe as the Moorish Kings.
Duncey skunt, Mena7 is right. You are wrong.
Fuked again!
asshole, mena said:
"Lion and unicorn and dragon are the symbols of the British royalty."The wild men killing the Lion and cancer symbolicaly mean they are killing the black King "
You said
"The dragon he is killing is represented in Europe as the Moorish Kings."
mena7:
" I realise now he is not a Moorish king because his clothing and armor are Europeen not Moorish."
-only you think there that during the crusades both sides were Moors
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Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Lioness you are wrong in your analysis of the painted pages The Right Hand of God Protecting the Faithful.You stated the white paint of the noble faided and left the black base.I think the noble praying were black and there was no white paint on their skin.I enlarge the noblemen picture in my cell phone and saw the black noble also have black phenotype like big mouth, round nose and big cheekbone.The noble in the picture have different shade of black skin.some are dark black, brown black and yellow black.Only one noblemen in the left look pale.The noblemen clothing didnt fade away.Lioness the noble praying in the picture are black Frenchmen.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: blah...blah..baa... IronLion has fuked me again!!!
Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
The original dragon slayer was Horus,having nothing to do with White Knights slaying Black Kings the bottom is the Ethiopian version of St George,in other words St george is non other than a reworked version of Horus. I first came across this passage in Graham Hancook Sign And The Seal some yrs back and I followed his source to A General history Of Ancient Kings. "Christianity was introduced into Abyssinia 331 years after the birth of Christ by Abuna Salama whose former name was Frumentos or Frumentius. As that time the Ethiopian kings reigned over Axum. Before the Christian religion was known in Ethiopia half the inhabitants were Jews, who observed the Law; the other half were worshippers of Sando, the dragon." - A History and Genealogy of the Ancient Kings http://books.google.com/books?id=1kcpAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA120&dq=A+History+and+Genealogy+of+the+Ancient+Kings+half+the+people+were+jews[/B] [/B]
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by mena7: Lioness you are wrong in your analysis of the painted pages The Right Hand of God Protecting the Faithful.You stated the white paint of the noble faided and left the black base.I think the noble praying were black and there was no white paint on their skin.I enlarge the noblemen picture in my cell phone and saw the black noble also have black phenotype like big mouth, round nose and big cheekbone.The noble in the picture have different shade of black skin.some are dark black, brown black and yellow black.Only one noblemen in the left look pale.The noblemen clothing didnt fade away.Lioness the noble praying in the picture are black Frenchmen.
you did zero research on this painting, just making up stuff, whatever you feel like. Also you didn't do research on blacks in France in the 15th century
Great post Brada Anansi I didnt know half of the Ethiopian people use to worship the dragon/serpent God Sando.I think the symbology of Horus or St George slaying the Dragon is the patriarchal solar cult (Ra, Chritianity) killing and replacing the matriarchal stellar cult(Apet, Fat mama, Sando).In the stellar and lunar cult women were very powerful or equal to men.In the patriarchal cult women lost their power and respect and could not become priestess and high priestess.
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