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Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
 
http://medievalpoc.tumblr.com/search/1500s
 
Posted by Ebony Allen (Member # 12771) on :
 
Black Turks? Mike, get in here.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^You people have learned nothing!

A quick perusal of that trash is enough to note that by style and condition it is modern fraud. Combine that with known Albino fraud points - the birth of Jesus, and it's a no brainer. BTW - for future reference: the Mona lisa is the best preserved painting in the world, (believed painted about 1517) it has been "Touched-up" many times. Find a true picture of it and use that for comparison.

Ebony Allen - I'm about ready to give up on you.

Next - Black Turks, or more correctly, the original Black inhabitants of what is now called Turkey (land of the Turks): but was known as Anatolia, Asia Minor, The Eastern Roman Empire, The Byzantine Empire, previously.

As a curiosity:
All those who thought that it was always Turkey, and that Turks always lived there, please raise your hands.

It just goes in one ear, and out the next!
 
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
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Originally posted by Ebony Allen:
Black Turks? Mike, get in here.

What I find ironic is that there is absolutely no problem with Europeans or Eurasians entering Africa, no matter the time or region. Despite for the lack of evidence at times.


And at the same time, it's a absolute nitty for Africans to have entered Europe or Eurasia at any point in time.


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
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Black Turks, or more correctly, the original Black inhabitants of what is now called Turkey (land of the Turks): but was known as Anatolia, Asia Minor, The Eastern Roman Empire, The Byzantine Empire, previously.

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Gurgum


Anatolia (now Turkey) In the 8th century B.C, Gurgum, was the capital of a prosperous what is called "Neo-Hittite kingdom" (there was never any such people as Hittites, use Hattie) in southeastern Anatolia. It was also a center of production for stelae strongly marked by Hattie tradition, especially in their use of hieroglyphs.



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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Nairi

During the Bronze Age collapse (13th to 12th centuries BC), the Nairi tribes were considered a force strong enough to contend with both Assyria and Hatti. The Battle of Nihriya, the culminating point of the hostilities between Hittites and Assyrians for control over the remnants of the former empire of Mitanni, took place there, circa 1230. Nairi was incorporated into Urartu during the 10th century BC.


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Relief from the ruins of Apadana, the Persian capital at Persepolis, about 500 B.C.

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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Coins from the Island of Lesbos, circa 500 - 550 B.C.

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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
The Carpi or Carpiani were an ancient people that resided in the former Principality of Moldavia (modern eastern Romania). The archaeology of Moldavia in the period 106-318 shows the coexistence of two distinct material cultures, one sedentary, the other exhibiting the features of a nomadic steppe culture - the Albinos. The sedentary culture was on a material level not significantly higher than other barbarian regions on the fringes of the Roman empire. The ethnic affiliation of the Carpi remains disputed, as there is no direct evidence in the surviving ancient literary sources. A strong body of modern scholarly opinion considers that the Carpi were a tribe of the Dacian nation. Other scholars have linked the Carpi to a variety of ethnic groups, including Sarmatians, Thracians, Germans, and Celts).

For five hundred years the Carpathian Basin had been "the people's highway", with various White tribes such as the Visigoths, the Ostrogoths and the Lombards migrating across the area after sojourning for various lengths of time. Later, the Western Roman Empire collapsed under the stress of this migration of Germanic tribes, and Carpian pressure. After four centuries of existence, Roman civilization was swept away by the great migrations of Albino peoples.

Later, the Huns who had been chasing the Albinos out of Asia arrived: that was the military power that finally forced the withdrawal of the Roman legions. In the middle of the 5th century, Pannonia was ceded to the Huns by Byzantine Emperor Theodosius II.


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
The fall of the Byzantine Empire

The end of the Byzantine Empire came when on April 2, 1453, Turkic Ottoman Sultan Mehmed II's army of some 80,000 men, and large numbers of irregulars, laid siege to the city of Constantinople. Despite a desperate last-ditch defense of the city by the massively outnumbered Christian forces, Constantinople finally fell to the Ottomans after a two-month siege on 29 May 1453. The last Byzantine Emperor, Constantine XI Palaiologos (though Byzantines were originally Greeks, by end, Slavs had made significant inroads), was last seen casting off his imperial regalia and throwing himself into hand-to-hand combat after the walls of the city were breached.


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
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Naturally the woman is "CERTAINLY NOT" a Turk.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
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Originally posted by Mike111:
Coins from the Island of Lesbos, circa 500 - 550 B.C.

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Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
Göbekli Tepe - 11,500 B.C. Which is a hilltop sanctuary built on the highest point of an elongated mountain ridge about 15km northeast of the town of Şanlıurfa (Urfa) in southeast Turkey.


German Archaeologist Klaus Schmidt discovered: Gobeki Tepe.


This is actually what the author, German Archaeologist Klaus Schmidt mentioned.


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..."and would have attracted hunter-gatherers from Africa and the Levant."...

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/gobekli-tepe.html?device=ipad


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In addition, the Neolithic revolution was assumed to arise in the late Pleistocene Natufians and subsequently spread into Anatolia and Europe (Bar-Yosef 2002), and the first Anatolian farmers, Neolithic to Bronze Age Mediterraneans and to some degree other Neolithic-Bronze Age Europeans, show morphological affinities with the Natufians (and indirectly with sub-Saharan populations; Angel 1972; Brace et al. 2005), in concordance with a process of demie diffusion accompanying the
extension of the Neolithic revolution (Cavalli-Sforza et al. 1994)."

--Cranial Discrete Traits in a Byzantine Population and Eastern Mediterranean Population Movements
F. X. Ricaut, M. Waelkens. Human Biology, Volume 80, Number 5, October 2008, pp. 535-564
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Turks in the west:

Turks were first introduced in the west as Slave Soldiers of the idiot Black Arabs.

The Tajikistanian (Central Asian) poet Rudaki (858-941), in a poem about the Samanid emir's court, describes how “row upon row” of Turkish slave guards were part of its adornment. From these Turkic guard ranks two military families arose—the Simjurids and Ghaznavids—who ultimately proved disastrous to the Samanids. The Simjurids received an appendage in the Kuhestan region of southern Khorasan. Alp Tigin founded the Ghaznavids when he established himself at Ghazna (modern Ghazni, Afghanistan) in 962. He and fellow Turk, Abu al-Hasan Simjuri, as Samanid generals, competed with each other for the governorship of Khorasan and control of the Samanid Empire by placing on the throne emirs they could dominate.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
[QB] Turks in the west:

Turks were first introduced in the west as Slave Soldiers of the idiot Black Arabs.


why were the Black Arabs idiots?
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Blacks in Turkey are being taught that they were brought there as SLAVES!

As is normal and natural with Whites and their Mulattoes: No lie is too cruel or too big, in the furtherance of the White lie of presence and accomplishment in the ancient world. Thus today, the hapless and now ignorant of their own history, indigenous Blacks of Anatolia, are being taught by their Turk conquers, that it is THEY, the Turks: who are the original people of Anatolia. And THEY, the indigenous Black people, were brought there as SLAVES by the Turks! Sadly, this cruel ruse is perpetrated on all Blacks in Muslim countries ruled by ethnic Turks. And those poor people, having been made ignorant by their conquers, and having no clue as to their true history, are left no choice but to believe what they are told.


http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Data/newsDetail_getNewsById.action.htm?load=detay&link=141522
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
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Ebony Allan
Troll Patrol and Mike think these are black people.

Don't you think they take things a little too far?
 
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
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Originally posted by the lioness,:
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Originally posted by Mike111:
Coins from the Island of Lesbos, circa 500 - 550 B.C.

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Mike can't tell the difference
What do you mean?


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which suggested that the African ancestry in West Eurasians is at least as closely related to East Africans (e.g. Hapmap3 Luhya (LWK)) as to West Africans (e.g. Nigerian Yoruba (YRI)) (the same analyses show that there is no evidence of relatedness to Chadic populations like Bulala) (Text S5 and Figure S12).
-- Moorjani et al. 2011
The History of African Gene Flow into Southern Europeans, Levantines, and Jews



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The forehead was retreating and the brow ridges were always prominent, the cheek bones were rather broad and the nose also was broad, in some case inclining to extreme platyrrhine…There can be no doubt that this type is that which has been described by Sergi, Giuffrida-Ruggeri, and Fleure, and named the Eurafican type…

L.H. Dudley & D. Talbot Rice the Field Museum and Oxford Expedition (1931)

http://www.archive.org/stream/lacropoledesused01dieu#page/2/mode/2up


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To estimate the proportion of sub-Saharan African ancestry in the various West Eurasian populations that showed significant evidence of mixture, we used f4 Ancestry Estimation [21], a method which produces accurate estimates of ancestry proportions, even in the absence of data from the true ancestral populations. This method estimates mixture proportions by fitting a model of mixture between two ancestral populations, followed by (possibly large) population-specific genetic drift. Briefly, we calculate a statistic that is proportional to the correlation in the allele frequency difference between West Eurasians and sub-Saharan Africans, and divide it by the same statistic for a population of sub-Saharan African ancestry, like YRI (Figure 2). This method has been shown through simulation to be robust to ascertainment bias on the SNP arrays and deviations from the assumed model of mixture (e.g. date and number of mixture events) [21].




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The finding of sub-Saharan African ancestry in West Eurasians predicts that there will be a signature of admixture LD in the populations that experienced this mixture. That is, there will be LD between all markers that are highly differentiated between the two ancestral populations and the allele will be strongly correlated to the local ancestry [23]. Hence, there will be chromosomal segments of African ancestry with lengths that reflect the number of recombination events that have occurred since mixture, and thus can be used to estimate an admixture date. Figure 3 shows that this expected pattern is observed empirically in the decay of LD in four example West Eurasian populations, where we enhance the effects of admixture LD by weighting the SNP comparisons by frequency difference between the ancestral Africans (YRI) and ancestral West Eurasians (CEU). In the Southern European, Jewish and Levantine populations, this procedure produces clear evidence of admixture LD (Figure 3). However, Northern Europeans (Russians in Figure 3) do not show any evidence of African gene flow, consistent with the 4 Population and 3 Population Test results and Figure 1. Similar results are seen for other West Eurasian and Jewish populations that show evidence of mixture in the 4 Population Test.




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The history of human migrations from Africa into West Eurasia is only partially understood. Archaeological and genetic evidence indicate that anatomically modern humans arrived in Europe from an African source at least 45,000 years ago, following the initial dispersal out of Africa [1], [2]. However, it is known that Southern Europeans and Levantines (people from modern day Palestine, Israel, Syria and Jordan) have also inherited genetic material of African origin due to subsequent migrations.
-- Moorjani et al. 2011
The History of African Gene Flow into Southern Europeans, Levantines, and Jews
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Turks in the west:

Turks were first introduced in the west as Slave Soldiers of the idiot Black Arabs.


why were the Black Arabs idiots?
The Persians (Parsa and Mede, were originally people of low quality): As were the Assyrians and Arabs. By that, I mean people of no prior accomplishment, as were the original Albinos.

People like that have only one currency: their willingness to kill or be killed, in pursuit of getting what they consider, "their share".

Perhaps someone else who has given the subject serious thought might want to answer the question.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Blacks in Turkey are being taught that they were brought there as SLAVES!

As is normal and natural with Whites and their Mulattoes: No lie is too cruel or too big, in the furtherance of the White lie of presence and accomplishment in the ancient world. Thus today, the hapless and now ignorant of their own history, indigenous Blacks of Anatolia, are being taught by their Turk conquers, that it is THEY, the Turks: who are the original people of Anatolia. And THEY, the indigenous Black people, were brought there as SLAVES by the Turks! Sadly, this cruel ruse is perpetrated on all Blacks in Muslim countries ruled by ethnic Turks. And those poor people, having been made ignorant by their conquers, and having no clue as to their true history, are left no choice but to believe what they are told.


http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Data/newsDetail_getNewsById.action.htm?load=detay&link=141522

^^^ Mike's link:

Who are these people? Mehmet, Ali, Ayşe, Rabia, Arzu, Emine, Hatice and Hüseyin, to name a few. Everything is typically Turkish except for one detail: They are black. Afro-Turks, as they prefer to be called, are the descendents of African citizens of the Ottoman Empire.....


Gülay Kayacan, who works for the History Foundation, an institute that researches and publishes articles on Turkish history, says that some of the Afro-Turks are descendents of slaves who used to work on farms or in houses. Slaves working in agriculture were concentrated in areas where cotton production was high. It is for this reason that most Afro-Turks today live on the Aegean coast and some in the Mediterranean region.

“Some 10,000 slaves, black and white, were brought into the Ottoman Empire every year. During the constitutional monarchy period (1876-1878), slavery was abolished and former slaves settled in areas where they used to work. Some of them were even given land by the government,” Kayacan says.

Not all or the Afro-Turks’ ancestors were slaves. Some came from the island of Crete following the Lausanne Treaty, signed in 1924. This treaty called for a population exchange between the Greek Orthodox citizens of the young Turkish Republic and the Muslim citizens of Greece. Most of the black on Crete were Muslims, so they were subjected to this population exchange. Like many others who were moved through this population exchange, they settled on the Aegean coast, mainly around İzmir. Eighty-year-old Emine Konaçer’s mother and Olpak’s family were among these immigrants.

Olpak has authored two books: “Slave Woman Kemale,” which tells the story of his own family, a slave family from Kenya that lived on Crete and had to migrate to Turkey, and “The Shores of Slaves,” in which Olpak presents a collection of stories by other Afro-Turks.

“I am a third-generation Afro-Turk. My grandparents were slaves. The first generation lived through the sad events, the second generation tried to forget and deny these events, but the third generation wants to know what happened and how,” Olpak says, adding: “We are black and we are from here. We are a part of this rich Anatolian culture and we are ready to make an effort to be noticed by the society. I believe that in this way we will be able to contribute to the tolerant culture of this beautiful land.” Olpak has a wish for his community: to celebrate Dana Bayramı on the national level one day as a festival of tolerance.

 
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
^As a matter of fact that is from this website,


http://www.todayszaman.com/newsDetail_getNewsById.action?load=detay&link=141522
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
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Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Turks in the west:

Turks were first introduced in the west as Slave Soldiers of the idiot Black Arabs.


why were the Black Arabs idiots?
The Persians (Parsa and Mede, were originally people of low quality): As were the Assyrians and Arabs. By that, I mean people of no prior accomplishment, as were the original Albinos.

People like that have only one currency: their willingness to kill or be killed, in pursuit of getting what they consider, "their share".

Perhaps someone else who has given the subject serious thought might want to answer the question.

You go out of your way to say Persian were African type people because their hair was curly only to go on to say that they were unaccomplished bums.
Isn't Persepolis an "accomplishment" ?

further Persian contributions in this wiki entry:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Iran
 
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
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Originally posted by the lioness,:
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Ebony Allan
Troll Patrol and Mike think these are black people.

Don't you think they take things a little too far?

Where and when did I state this? [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
^As a matter of fact that is from this website,


http://www.todayszaman.com/newsDetail_getNewsById.action?load=detay&link=141522

why are you putting up the same link Mike put up and I quoted with the link again?

Do we need the same link three times?
 
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
^As a matter of fact that is from this website,


http://www.todayszaman.com/newsDetail_getNewsById.action?load=detay&link=141522

why are you putting up the same link Mike put up and I quoted with the link again?

Do we need the same link three times?

I am putting up the link so people can see the ORIGINAL SOURCE!

Do you have a problem with that? [Big Grin]


Let me inform you, with those crochet eyes. It's a different link. It's not the same, dumbo! You have trouble with counting as well, pathetic.
 
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
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Originally posted by Mike111:
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Originally posted by the lioness,:
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Originally posted by Mike111:
Turks in the west:

Turks were first introduced in the west as Slave Soldiers of the idiot Black Arabs.


why were the Black Arabs idiots?
The Persians (Parsa and Mede, were originally people of low quality): As were the Assyrians and Arabs. By that, I mean people of no prior accomplishment, as were the original Albinos.

People like that have only one currency: their willingness to kill or be killed, in pursuit of getting what they consider, "their share".

Perhaps someone else who has given the subject serious thought might want to answer the question.

You go out of your way to say Persian were African type people because their hair was curly only to go on to say that they were unaccomplished bums.
Isn't Persepolis an "accomplishment" ?

further Persian contributions in this wiki entry:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Iran

Awesome wiki page,


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which suggested that the African ancestry in West Eurasians is at least as closely related to East Africans (e.g. Hapmap3 Luhya (LWK)) as to West Africans (e.g. Nigerian Yoruba (YRI)) (the same analyses show that there is no evidence of relatedness to Chadic populations like Bulala) (Text S5 and Figure S12).
-- Moorjani et al. 2011
The History of African Gene Flow into Southern Europeans, Levantines, and Jews



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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
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Mike well you clarify that these are black people to educate Troll Patrol. I assumed his silences and support means he agrees with you

thanks
 
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
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Mike well you clarify that these are black people to educate Troll Patrol. I assumed his silences and support means he agrees with you

thanks

First off, I asked you and when I ever stated something on this image, which I have never seen before.

Secondly, I certainly would appreciate a explanation, thanks in advance.


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http://sdt.sulinet.hu/Player/Default.aspx?g=c90420b9-66ba-411f-861c-811fa8238da1&cid=08505a90-38b3-

Translation from Magyar:

"Rites of the early production cultures" Gímszarvasvadászatot painting, Catal Hülyük, BC 5800th k.



Göbekli Tepe - 11,500 B.C. Which is a hilltop sanctuary built on the highest point of an elongated mountain ridge about 15km northeast of the town of Şanlıurfa (Urfa) in southeast Turkey.


German Archaeologist Klaus Schmidt discovered: Gobeki Tepe.


This is actually what the author, German Archaeologist Klaus Schmidt mentioned.


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..."and would have attracted hunter-gatherers from Africa and the Levant."...

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/gobekli-tepe.html?device=ipad


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In addition, the Neolithic revolution was assumed to arise in the late Pleistocene Natufians and subsequently spread into Anatolia and Europe (Bar-Yosef 2002), and the first Anatolian farmers, Neolithic to Bronze Age Mediterraneans and to some degree other Neolithic-Bronze Age Europeans, show morphological affinities with the Natufians (and indirectly with sub-Saharan populations; Angel 1972; Brace et al. 2005), in concordance with a process of demie diffusion accompanying the
extension of the Neolithic revolution (Cavalli-Sforza et al. 1994)."

--Cranial Discrete Traits in a Byzantine Population and Eastern Mediterranean Population Movements
F. X. Ricaut, M. Waelkens. Human Biology, Volume 80, Number 5, October 2008, pp. 535-564
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
stick to the time period, Gurgum 750 BC not 11,000 years in Göbekli Tepe

You do this often, assume populations many thousands of years apart are the same
 
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
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Originally posted by the lioness,:
stick to the time period, Gurgum 750 BC not 11,000 years in Göbekli Tepe

You do this often, assume populations many thousands of years apart are the same

I think it's more than sufficient.


See the title.

ancient black turkish


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By the way you hold a patent on often assume populations many thousands of years apart are the same. You do this all the time.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
It's dumb to post a population from 750 BC and then roght after post one from 11,500 B.C.
You do this kind of thing all the time. That's why most of your thraeds with all the quotes are irrelevant, no sense of time period

Also of note Mike doesn't believe in transitional or intermediate types.
His view is that all middle looking people are the result of mixing between blacks and lighter skinned people, no gradual transitions.

Also I'm the lioness. So if I'm in the s host Anne Robinson role. The commentary "you are the weakest link" is coming from the lioness outward. In other words, that picture's message is directed at the viewer, the viewer is the weakest link.
The lioness in the picture is the one delivering the message obviously
 
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
It's dumb to post a population from 750 BC and then roght after post one from 11,500 B.C.
You do this kind of thing all the time. That's why most of your thraeds with all the quotes are irrelevant, no sense of time period

Also of note Mike doesn't believe in transitional or intermediate types.
His view is that all middle looking people are the result of mixing between blacks and lighter skinned people, no gradual transitions

What is the title of this thread? I posted on that topic. That's the moral of the story.


What you do all the time is picture spamming.


You yourself stated that Mike was going to elaborate on the image you've reposted. I never seen that image, so I can't elaborate on it. Do you understand this? Or is this too difficult for you to understand?

I have not posted or reposted that image. If you had any common sense you would have explained what that image is about. But you didn't, such wasted opportunity.


However, you do hide behind Mike "his believes" on intermediate types. So you don't have to give explanation to your false and baseless claims. Such a pity. But I will hunt you down.


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The picture above is a lioness. And the message is clear.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
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Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor: So you don't have to give explanation to your false and baseless claims. Such a pity.
I gave you an explanation on adpatation and transitional types, clown

Not everybody needs to post the same thing over and over.

Mike will set you straight shortly to the effect
1)"Hittites" are a fabrication, Gurgum people were black (aka "blurks")
2) there is no such thing as gradual evolutionary trasitions between interconintental phenotypes.Such "transitional looking" people are not transitional they are the result of miscegenation

This is Mike's thread, therfore we have to go by HIS retarded theories
 
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
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Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor: So you don't have to give explanation to your false and baseless claims. Such a pity.
I gave you an explanation on adpatation and transitional types, clown

Not everybody needs to post the same thing over and over.

Mike will set you straight shortly to the effect
1)"Hittites" are a fabrication, Gurgum people were black
2) there is no such thing as gradual evolutionary trasitions between interconintental phenotypes.Such "transitional looking" people are not transitional they are the result of miscegenation

This is Mike's thread, therfore we have to go by HIS retarded theories

No, you did not. That the problem with you.


So I am still waiting...for you to explain how whites / Europeans appeared, stemming from your "stereotype negro/ Africans. Without having a transition.

What you've stated that it's "could be". But that's not a explanation.


"Or they could be someone who comes from a popualtion that left Africa but settled only slightly more North. Therefore they might look partially African but also take on colder conditions traits. So both situations could produce a mulatto looking person"


This thesis is not a scientific explanation. It's a rant. Then you go one by stating "cold condition traits"? More idiotic babble.


Also, this is Malibudusul's thread.


Lastly, the modern day population in Turkey is of recent times. They themselves say they came from Asia.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
persistant Idiot, I answered the question three times. If you don't like the answer that's your problem
I don't have to answer to your liking. I won't reanswer questions until you like the answer Mr puppy dog following me around.
You ask for an answer you get an answer. You don't like the answer, say it's gibberish, and just keep aksing it over an over agin and other people's threads in a bullying attempt, in other people's threads on other topics, one of the various obssessive ways you destroy threads

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
there was a transition and I have always said that
what is your problem? cold adaptation

you are thick as a block of wood, (meaning your head)

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
It does explain it's mainstream anthropology, tons of books on it. Cold adpatation, lowered UV, some neanderthal admix maybe.

If you want to go against mainstream science that's your problem. Make a thread of your alternate theory and stop trying to get me to do it for you.

You are just too embarrassed to do it, worried about what people might think

Anybody who has been following the lioness knows I have elaborated on these topics many times before. I have nothing to prove, won't waste time on people whose mind is on a tape loop. And it's interesting how you abandon the transition concept when lit comes to Turkey yet at the same time trying to get me to redundantly talk about it over and over again,
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
Awesome wiki page.

Ancient technology in Persia

The Qanat (a water management system used for irrigation) originated in pre-Achaemenid Persia. The oldest and largest known qanat is in the Iranian city of Gonabad, which, after 2,700 years, still provides drinking and agricultural water to nearly 40,000 people.


There is no such a thing as pre-Achaemenid Persia. Achaemenid is the name of the first Persian dynasty. Persia did not exist before the Parsa and Medes who together were called Persians arrived in the land called Elam.

The great accomplishments were the work of the Elamites, NOT the Persians. Persian building projects were done by foreigners.

Please see my comments about how Albinos lie as a matter of course. It's just natural to them.
 
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
Awesome wiki page.

Ancient technology in Persia

The Qanat (a water management system used for irrigation) originated in pre-Achaemenid Persia. The oldest and largest known qanat is in the Iranian city of Gonabad, which, after 2,700 years, still provides drinking and agricultural water to nearly 40,000 people.


There is no such a thing as pre-Achaemenid Persia. Achaemenid is the name of the first Persian dynasty. Persia did not exist before the Parsa and Medes who together were called Persians arrived in the land called Elam.

The great accomplishments were the work of the Elamites, NOT the Persians. Persian building projects were done by foreigners.

Please see my comments about how Albinos lie as a matter of course. It's just natural to them.

My wiki argument was based on sarcasm. And like most independent wiki sources this was BS too.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
And like most independent wiki sources this was BS too.

quote:
Originally posted by Mike111

The Persians (Parsa and Mede, were originally people of low quality): As were the Assyrians and Arabs. By that, I mean people of no prior accomplishment, as were the original Albinos.


^^^ Troll, do you cosign this?

(watch him not answer)

________________________

explain why this wikipedia article is BS


Science and technology in Iran

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Iran

you will have to be a little specific rather than just saying information on wikipedia is false because it's wikipedia

and after that I will assume anything you didn't criticize in th article is legit about ancient Iran technology

_________________________________

This is the racist garbage world history website that Troll Patrol thinks is more accurate than wikipedia


http://realhistoryww.com/

aka Mike111 webiste (aka the Black March of the Titans)

Troll Patrol you support Mike's racism, that meas you are also racist
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Ha,ha,ha,ha:

Having exercised you power over Negroes by getting them to foolishly try to define who or what is Black, ah la Doxie's foolishness. You are now feeling your power and itching to take me on.

Relax, your little victory is well worn. Everyone can do it, and just about everyone has done it. So getting Negroes to agree that I am a racist is of little value, after all, who really cares what they think.

Last I checked, the good people of the world is trying to educate them, while the scum like you is still trying to use them, and get them to do your bidding.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
[QB] Ha,ha,ha,ha:

Having exercised you power over Negroes by getting them to foolishly try to define who or what is Black

your whole website top to bottom is devoted to defining blacks and whites, enough hypocrisy

you are not interested in culture unless it pertains to "race"
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^Last I checked, Realhistoryww.com was about defining Albinos and those primarily of Albino extraction - of All phenotypes, including Mongols. Because these are the people who are subverting and falsifying human history, to make it seem that they are original people, and the creators of mans civilizations: instead of being simply the Albinos of the original people.

The corollary being that ALL natural Humans are Black, regardless of phenotype.

It seems to me that Realhistoryww.com mission is to reveal truth, and expose lies: what's wrong with that?
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^Last I checked, Realhistoryww.com was about defining Albinos and those primarily of Albino extraction - of All phenotypes, including Mongols. Because these are the people who are subverting and falsifying human history, to make it seem that they are original people, and the creators of mans civilizations: instead of being simply the Albinos of the original people.

The corollary being that ALL natural Humans are Black, regardless of phenotype.

It seems to me that Realhistoryww.com mission is to reveal truth, and expose lies: what's wrong with that?

>> The history of mankind is longer inside Africa before man left African than it is after mankind left Africa.

As you know Africa has the highest rates of albinism in the world and Tanzania the highest rate for an individual country.
It's a condition caused by nature, therefore natural

You must agree the conslusion is crystal clear.
White people originated in Africa


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
The history of mankind is longer inside Africa before man left African than it is after mankind left Africa.

As you know Africa has the highest rates of albinism in the world and Tanzania the highest rate for an individual country.
It's a condition caused by nature, therefore natural

You must agree the conclusion is crystal clear.
White people originated in Africa

Let's be clear what we are talking about.

Every time an Albino makes a Baby with another Albino, a new albino is created. Even those with noticeable admixture, skin color is stable, it will not change until some new input changes it. So if that's what you are talking about, then European types and White Mongols make many more Albinos than Africans.

But if you mean the creation of "New" Albinos by Black people, then you are correct, Africans make many more "New" Albinos.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
The history of mankind is longer inside Africa before man left African than it is after mankind left Africa.

As you know Africa has the highest rates of albinism in the world and Tanzania the highest rate for an individual country.
It's a condition caused by nature, therefore natural

You must agree the conclusion is crystal clear.
White people originated in Africa

Let's be clear what we are talking about.

Every time an Albino makes a Baby with another Albino, a new albino is created. Even those with noticeable admixture, skin color is stable, it will not change until some new input changes it. So if that's what you are talking about, then European types and White Mongols make many more Albinos than Africans.

But if you mean the creation of "New" Albinos by Black people, then you are correct, Africans make many more "New" Albinos.

the ancestors of white people in Europe are the white people of Africa. White people originated in Africa.
Far before people even left Africa

White people originated in Africa.

period end of story,
I don't want to hear anymore
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
The ancestors of white people in Europe are the white people of Africa. White people originated in Africa.
Far before people even left Africa

White people originated in Africa.

period end of story,
I don't want to hear anymore

True, European Albinos originated in Africa, but that is a logical assertion, there is no proof of it. And you go too far, no one knows when the first Albino appeared, or why. Perhaps there was a major radiation event on Earth which caused "P" genes to mutate.

Other questions to be answered:
Why were Dravidian Albinos the only Albinos to mate amongst themselves almost exclusively, instead of actively searching for non-Albino mates, so as to have their offspring returned to normalcy?

While it is true that many Mongol type Albinos also mate amongst themselves, the fact that they are so admixed demonstrates that they do not do so exclusively.

Why did Dravidians and Blacks with Mongol type features, almost completely abandon Africa, along with their Albinos? Could it have been something that lamins ancestors said?
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
[qb] The ancestors of white people in Europe are the white people of Africa. White people originated in Africa.
Far before people even left Africa

White people originated in Africa.

period end of story,
I don't want to hear anymore

True, European Albinos originated in Africa, but that is a logical assertion, there is no proof of it. And you go too far, no one knows when the first Albino appeared, or why. Perhaps there was a major radiation event on Earth which caused "P" genes to mutate.

Other questions to be answered:
Why were Dravidian Albinos the only Albinos to mate amongst themselves almost exclusively, instead of actively searching for non-Albino mates, so as to have their offspring returned to normalcy?


they knew better than to mate with their oppressor, and thus the world became theirs
 
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
 
Lioness say: The history of mankind is longer inside Africa before man left African than it is after mankind left Africa.

As you know Africa has the highest rates of albinism in the world and Tanzania the highest rate for an individual country.
It's a condition caused by nature, therefore natural

You must agree the conslusion is crystal clear.
White people originated in Africa.

Lioness say: the ancestors of white people in Europe are the white people of Africa. White people originated in Africa.
Far before people even left Africa

White people originated in Africa.

period end of story,
I don't want to hear anymore

Mena say: Lioness you maybe right that there were white people in North Africa before Asia and Europe. I google German are from Egypt because I saw that theory in a conspiracy theory website. I saw a post in answer yahoo saying white people are from North Africa because Northern Europe and North Asia was frozen during the ice age. White people could only live in North Africa were the temperature was milder before the sahara desert and today in coastal North Africa. The poster used the Egyptian mural of races to show the proof of white people presence in North Africa. The white Lebu or Lybian in the Egyptian mural of race have pale skin, light hairs and beards and tattoo.

There is the African traditional story of renegade priest Yakub who created the white race by th selective breeding of African albino. That white race cause so much problem in Africa that the black African captured all the white people and kick them out of Africa to Central Asia.

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Egyptian Mural of races showing white Libyan

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Egyptian mural of races

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Egyptian Mural of Races

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Egyptian Mural of Races
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Mena7 - You DO understand that those are "Modern" drawings - don't you?
 
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
 
No Mike I didn't know that.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mena7:

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No Mike I didn't know that.

Here are some originals from the tomb of Rameses III.
In the original each type appears in a set of four.


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quote:
Originally posted by alTakruri

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KV11 tomb of Rameses III

and this one if from Tomb of Merenptah
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^^^ this is a detail between the last of four Asiatic Syraians and the first of the four Nubians (or Kushites)

Merenptah
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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
The Book of Gates

The Book of Gates is the principal guidebook to the netherworld found in 19th and part of the 20th Dynasty tombs of the New Kingdom, though it makes its first appearance to us with the last king of the 18th Dynasty. It was meant to allow the dead pharaoh to navigate his way along the netherworld route together with the sun god, so that his resurrection could be affected. It emphasizes gates with guardian deities who's names must be known in order to pass them. This is actually a very old tradition dating to at least the Book of the Two Ways in the Coffin Texts, where there are seven gates with three keepers at each.


Research on the Book of Gates

Because, in the tomb of Seti I and the Judgement of the Dead in the tomb of Ramesses VI, the Book of Gates depicted foreigners, it aroused the interest of scholars at an early date. These particular text were frequently copied. However, it was Jean-Francois Champollion who provided the first description of the Book of Gates, along with some translations in his 13th letter from Egypt, dated May 26, 1829. He mostly relied on the tomb of Ramesses VI for this translation. Yet the standard publication for many years was from an 1864 documentation of the alabaster sarcophagus of Seti I by Bonomi and Sharpe. In the ancient Egyptian text, the book is not named, so it was Gaston Maspero who originally designated it Livre de Portes (Book of Gates). He also referred to it as the Livre des Pylones, or "Book of Pylons, and Eugene Lefebure called it Livre de l'Enfer, or "Book of the Netherworld". Lefebure also provided a brief survey of its contents for an essay in 1888. Previously, he had already published the first translation of the text on from the Seti I sarcophagus in 1878 and 1881. In Part of the Book of Gates from the tomb of Ramesses IV1905, Budge described and translated the sarcophagus version and made a comparison between its hours of the night and those in the Amduat. However, because by this time the lid of the sarcophagus had been destroyed, his analysis was erroneous. The incomplete version of the Book found in the tomb of Horemhab was published in 1912 (after having only been discovered in 1908). More recent editions of the Book of Gates include that published by Charles Maystre and Alexandre Piankoff, who created a broader textual basis with their work of 1939-1962. However, this version was replaced by that of Erik Hornung in 1979. Today, the complete English version of the text by Pankoff has been available since 1954, while the German translation created by Hornung has been around since 1972.


Structure of the Book

The Book of Gates portrays the gates of the netherworld far more visibly and systematically than other similar compositions. It compares most readily with the gates in the Book of the Dead, spells 144 and 145, which the Ramesside Period Egyptians considered a substitute for the Book of Gates in tombs that did not belong to pharaohs, such as that of Nefertari and others in the Valley of the Queens. In fact, gates in the Book of the Dead spells and elsewhere have caused some confusion with the Book of Gates even among some scholars. The concept of gates in the afterlife was a reoccurring theme amongst many of the books of the afterlife.


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Hour Five is one of the most complex hours within the composition. In the upper registers, the gods are portrayed with a surveying cord, because the deceased are allotted space (in the form of fields) within this hour. The deceased are also allotted time, and hence the gods also carry the body of a serpent and the hieroglyphs meaning "lifetime" in the lower register. In order to accomplish this, the Apophis fiend, known as "the Retreater, must once again be battled and fettered. Behind Apophis we notice the ba-souls of the blessed dead, and at the beginning of the lower register are found the four "races" of mankind, including Egyptians, Asiatics, Nubians and Libyans. Each race is represented by four individual figures, who are assured existence in the afterlife. They are placed in the care of Horus and Sakhmet. It should be noted that the Great Hymn of Akhenaten, Aten is said to care even for foreign people, and hence, they are sheltered in the realm of the dead, according to the Book of Gates.


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Re; Table of Nations...

Mena7 - Please note that there are NO White people!
Likewise, also note that in the Assyrian period in history which follows - there are "NO" White people!

(CONTRARY TO THE WHITE PEOPLE CREATED DRAWINGS).


quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
you are not interested in culture unless it pertains to "race"

As long as there are Albinos trying to falsify history so as to include themselves and remove Blacks, the first order of business for me and every other Black historian must be to expose what Albinos have done, and are continuing to do, in falsifying history. Actually studying the cultures will come later.
 
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
 
Mike as I stated before, it is YOU & your ilk who are trying to falsify history & who are trying to remove Whites from history & trying to write yourselves in in our place. It is also you who goes around spouting racist epithets meant to demean, degrade & dehumanize Whites in the process. Simply because you hate Whites particularly White children. You want White children not to know who they are, where they come from, who their ancestors were. You want them to think they have no history, no heritage, no ancestors, no identity, no homeland to call their own, you want them to think their people have accomplished nothing, that they have nothing to be proud of as White children, you want them to think they have no value, no right to exist, that they are inferior to you, you want them to be ashamed of being White and to think of their skin as a defect to be gotten rid of due to your hatred towards them.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^I keep telling you that I love White people (the good ones anyway). What has that got to do with telling the truth?
 
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
 
Tell another one Mike, your nose isn't quite long enough LOL. Ohh you mean you love the Wegros who like Esau despise their heritage & are willing to give it all to you out of their self hatred. The Libtard WINOs LOL. Thing is you are NOT telling the truth, you are simply spouting Black supremacist bull crap. You & Clyde & the rest of your ilk love the thought of White children not knowing who they are, where they come from, who their ancestors were, White children thinking they have no value, thinking that they are inferior. You would revel at White children looking at depictions of European's of old & seeing you instead of themselves & asking what about us where are our ancestors, where did our ancestors come from, where are the depictions of our ancestors. You revel in the thought of White children thinking they have no where on earth they belong. After all Mike was it not you who said if you had your way White children would not be allowed to receive an education, I'm sure that Clyde, Mena7, Trollpatrol, Mali, Kikuyu, Narmer, Ebony Allen, Nontruthhitman,Ironcocksucker,and ilk would agree?
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^Doxie dear, there is no need to make-up malicious lies about us: in doing so, you are being unnecessarily White.
 
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
 
Exactly what did I lie about Mike pray do tell?
 
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
 
Come on Mike, I'm waiting, what "lie" did I tell about you & your crew???
 
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
And like most independent wiki sources this was BS too.

quote:
Originally posted by Mike111

The Persians (Parsa and Mede, were originally people of low quality): As were the Assyrians and Arabs. By that, I mean people of no prior accomplishment, as were the original Albinos.


^^^ Troll, do you cosign this?

(watch him not answer)

________________________

explain why this wikipedia article is BS


Science and technology in Iran

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Iran

you will have to be a little specific rather than just saying information on wikipedia is false because it's wikipedia

and after that I will assume anything you didn't criticize in th article is legit about ancient Iran technology

_________________________________

This is the racist garbage world history website that Troll Patrol thinks is more accurate than wikipedia


http://realhistoryww.com/

aka Mike111 webiste (aka the Black March of the Titans)

Troll Patrol you support Mike's racism, that meas you are also racist

As I have explained many times before,


http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/education/2010/march/The-Top-10-Reasons-Students-Cannot-Cite-or-Rely-on-Wikipedia.html


What's Wrong with Wikipedia?

There's nothing more convenient than Wikipedia if you're looking for some quick information, and when the stakes are low (you need a piece of information to settle a bet with your roommate, or you want to get a basic sense of what something means before starting more in-depth research), you may get what you need from Wikipedia. In fact, some instructors may advise their students to read entries for scientific concepts on Wikipedia as a way to begin understanding those concepts.

Nevertheless, when you're doing academic research, you should be extremely cautious about using Wikipedia. As its own disclaimer states, information on Wikipedia is contributed by anyone who wants to post material, and the expertise of the posters is not taken into consideration. Users may be reading information that is outdated or that has been posted by someone who is not an expert in the field or by someone who wishes to provide misinformation. (Case in point: Four years ago, an Expos student who was writing a paper about the limitations of Wikipedia posted a fictional entry for himself, stating that he was the mayor of a small town in China. Four years later, if you type in his name, or if you do a subject search on Wikipedia for mayors of towns in China, you will still find this fictional entry.) Some information on Wikipedia may well be accurate, but because experts do not review the site's entries, there is a considerable risk in relying on this source for your essays.

The fact that Wikipedia is not a reliable source for academic research doesn't mean that it's wrong to use basic reference materials when you're trying to familiarize yourself with a topic. In fact, the library is stocked with introductory materials, and the Harvard librarians can point you to specialized encyclopedias in different fields. These sources can be particularly useful when you need background information or context for a topic you're writing about.


http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k70847&pageid=icb.page346376


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Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DHDoxies:
Tell another one Mike, your nose isn't quite long enough LOL. Ohh you mean you love the Wegros who like Esau despise their heritage & are willing to give it all to you out of their self hatred. The Libtard WINOs LOL. Thing is you are NOT telling the truth, you are simply spouting Black supremacist bull crap. You & Clyde & the rest of your ilk love the thought of White children not knowing who they are, where they come from, who their ancestors were, White children thinking they have no value, thinking that they are inferior. You would revel at White children looking at depictions of European's of old & seeing you instead of themselves & asking what about us where are our ancestors, where did our ancestors come from, where are the depictions of our ancestors. You revel in the thought of White children thinking they have no where on earth they belong. After all Mike was it not you who said if you had your way White children would not be allowed to receive an education, I'm sure that Clyde, Mena7, Trollpatrol, Mali, Kikuyu, Narmer, Ebony Allen, Nontruthhitman,Ironcocksucker,and ilk would agree?

Clown, stop lying about your lies!

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http://sdt.sulinet.hu/Player/Default.aspx?g=c90420b9-66ba-411f-861c-811fa8238da1&cid=08505a90-38b3-

Translation from Magyar:

"Rites of the early production cultures" Gímszarvasvadászatot painting, Catal Hülyük, BC 5800th k.



Göbekli Tepe - 11,500 B.C. Which is a hilltop sanctuary built on the highest point of an elongated mountain ridge about 15km northeast of the town of Şanlıurfa (Urfa) in southeast Turkey.


German Archaeologist Klaus Schmidt discovered: Gobeki Tepe.


This is actually what the author, German Archaeologist Klaus Schmidt mentioned.


quote:
..."and would have attracted hunter-gatherers from Africa and the Levant."...

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/gobekli-tepe.html?device=ipad


quote:

In addition, the Neolithic revolution was assumed to arise in the late Pleistocene Natufians and subsequently spread into Anatolia and Europe (Bar-Yosef 2002), and the first Anatolian farmers, Neolithic to Bronze Age Mediterraneans and to some degree other Neolithic-Bronze Age Europeans, show morphological affinities with the Natufians (and indirectly with sub-Saharan populations; Angel 1972; Brace et al. 2005), in concordance with a process of demie diffusion accompanying the
extension of the Neolithic revolution (Cavalli-Sforza et al. 1994)."

--Cranial Discrete Traits in a Byzantine Population and Eastern Mediterranean Population Movements
F. X. Ricaut, M. Waelkens. Human Biology, Volume 80, Number 5, October 2008, pp. 535-564
 
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
 
Tell me Trollpatrol, what exactly did I lie about in what I said about you & your ilk?? I'm curious.
 
Posted by Ebony Allen (Member # 12771) on :
 
Troll, where exactly is that second pic located on Myra's website? I go to her homepage and don't see a link for it. It looks like a Minoan.
 
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
Fake ass above clearly has no education. With that pseudo name.


quote:
Originally posted by DHDoxies:
Tell me Trollpatrol, what exactly did I lie about in what I said about you & your ilk?? I'm curious.

EVERYTHING!


You even lie about the truth, I've slapped in your stupid Appalachian face, trailer park queen. Don't you remember?
 
Posted by Ebony Allen (Member # 12771) on :
 
I always had a feeling the Minoans were mostly black with some whites among them.
 
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
 
Troll Patrol point out one just one statement that I said in my post to Mike that is not true.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ebony Allen:
I always had a feeling the Minoans were mostly black with some whites among them.

Oh my!

You can't even envision a World without White people. How sad that your mind is so well trained by them, that you cannot even think about a world without White people.

But facts are facts, if you will notice in the larger Minoan pictures with many people depicted, there are no White people, those that appear light are the result of the area being lightened.

White people appear only in the artifacts that have been repainted. There was even a thread about the repainting of Minoan art, but your mental training keeps you from thinking about that in a logical way.

But try as you may, you will find no evidence for White people in Southern Europe until circa 1,200 B.C. That is the time when the Albinos from Central Asia began moving South into India (most say 1500 for India), and Southern Europe.

Here is a Akrotiri fresco, and a link to a big blow-up of the complete fresco - see if you can find your White people.

On the extreme top right of the blow-up you see what appears to be White people. Really, does that look natural?

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http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Akrotiri.htm
 
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
 
Mike will you cut the fricking lies you stupid lying, history stealing, White people hating, kill Whitey, wanna harm White children, Black racist, Black supremacist POS SOB. White people are NOT Albinos & we did NOT come from no Central Asia you stupid worthless twit, we are indigenous to Europe, You and your ilk are NOT. BTW you haven't answered my question oh Whitey hater, what did I lie about about you & your ilk?
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Doxie, you can help Ebony find White people if you like.
 
Posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate (Member # 20039) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DHDoxies:
Mike as I stated before, it is YOU & your ilk who are trying to falsify history

No worry, nobody with a brain takes Mike seriously. You shouldn't either.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate:
quote:
Originally posted by DHDoxies:
Mike as I stated before, it is YOU & your ilk who are trying to falsify history

No worry, nobody with a brain takes Mike seriously. You shouldn't either.
Amun-Ra, you can help Ebony and Doxie find White people in the fresco too if you would like.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^BTW - Ebony, Doxie, Lioness, Amun-Ra: Any and all of you are welcome to present evidence of White people in Europe prior to about 1,200 B.C.

If you would like to turn that around and ask me to do the same, I would be very happy to do so.

My problem with people like Ebony, is that they don't seem to understand what that means.
 
Posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate (Member # 20039) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^BTW - Ebony, Doxie, Lioness, Amun-Ra: Any and all of you are welcome to present evidence of White people in Europe prior to about 1,200 B.C.

White people? What is that? They don't even exist Mike. You know that!
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^BTW - Ebony, Doxie, Lioness, Amun-Ra: Any and all of you are welcome to present evidence of White people in Europe prior to about 1,200 B.C.

White people? What is that? They don't even exist Mike. You know that!
What an absolute pussy!

You came in bad and bold, but when asked to support your bold mouth, you slink-off like a worm.
 
Posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate (Member # 20039) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^BTW - Ebony, Doxie, Lioness, Amun-Ra: Any and all of you are welcome to present evidence of White people in Europe prior to about 1,200 B.C.

White people? What is that? They don't even exist Mike. You know that!
What an absolute pussy!

You came in bad and bold, but when asked to support your bold mouth, you slink-off like a worm.

Don't tell me you believe the albino nonsense about the existence white people? Why not green or gray people while we're at it. Ridiculous. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^BTW - Ebony, Doxie, Lioness, Amun-Ra: Any and all of you are welcome to present evidence of White people in Europe prior to about 1,200 B.C.

If you would like to turn that around and ask me to do the same, I would be very happy to do so.

My problem with people like Ebony, is that they don't seem to understand what that means.

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white people originate in Africa you dumb fuck


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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/Crests.htm

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quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:

The African Origin of the Dravidians



 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^Here we are NOT talking about the odd typical African Albino - as pictured. Instead we are talking about the "RACE" of Albinos that was created when Dravidian Albinos decided to exclusively mate among themselves.

Please adjust your thinking accordingly.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
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Doxie - Is she White???
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
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Doxie - Is she White???

Doxies can't save you from lying
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
when one white Roman writer mentioned white Germans

In typical Albino fashion you claim that Tacitus was White. Please tell what evidence you have of this.

The answer is NONE!

But the constant repetition of the lie/lies is how you effect the minds of the weak.
 
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DHDoxies:
Troll Patrol point out one just one statement that I said in my post to Mike that is not true.

I am not talking about Mike, I'm talking about myself. You directed to me, and the academic journals I've been posting.


By the way, you've never had a true discussion with Mike from what I have seen. Or at least not under this pseudo name. All I have seen you do was and is iterate the same nonsense, as suppose you truly know and understand what racism is and feels like. Which of course is laughable matter.


But since directed to me, I stated, it's EVERYTHING!


You even lie about the truth, I've slapped in your Appalachian face, trailer park queen. Don't you remember?
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
It is estimated that over 150,000 albinos live in Tanzania
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^There were many questions posed to you which required response.

How many Albinos live in Tanzania was not one of them.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
The more recent Mike tries to make white people the more miraculous he makes their quick rise to power,

Mike is so awed and dazzled by the white man he shits on Africans and imagines himself as a European prince
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
If looking at say 1,200 BC- 5000 BC in Europe there weren't writers around recording people's skin tones and hair types
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
If looking at say 1,200 BC- 5000 BC in Europe there weren't writers around recording people's skin tones and hair types

As superbly demonstrated by the Egyptians, Black people were very conscious of themselves and their place in Nature. Consequently they kept records of themselves through their art, their burials, and their grave goods.


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Do you have anything compatible for White people???


HELL NO!!!

 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
If looking at say 1,200 BC- 5000 BC in Europe there weren't writers around recording people's skin tones and hair types

As superbly demonstrated by the Egyptians, Black people were very conscious of themselves and their place in Nature. Consequently they kept records of themselves through their art, their burials, and their grave goods.


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Do you have anything compatible for White people???


HELL NO!!!

and why would these pictures be black people ?


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Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
 
Lioness, No she is not White (the African girl), she is a Black person, an Albino Black person but still Black.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
If looking at say 1,200 BC- 5000 BC in Europe there weren't writers around recording people's skin tones and hair types

As superbly demonstrated by the Egyptians, Black people were very conscious of themselves and their place in Nature. Consequently they kept records of themselves through their art, their burials, and their grave goods.


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Do you have anything compatible for White people???


HELL NO!!!

^And why would these pictures be black people ?
He,he,he,he:

When you find a Dravidian Albino with those nasal attributes, be sure to post it.


You have nowhere to go, there is no way that anyone could confuse that as anything but a Black mans skull. Usually at this time you get really stupid, as you showed by asking such a stupid question. But If you do, you know what I will do.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DHDoxies:
Lioness, No she is not White (the African girl), she is a Black person, an Albino Black person but still Black.

she's White

Tukuler teaches the the original Whites are identified by an upper class "W" , the white Africans

while the Euroepan whites are spelled with a lower class "w"


Similarly this is a black man
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but this is a Black man
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likewise

this is a White man
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but this is a
white man
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It has to do with if you capitalize the first letter or not
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
He,he,he,he:

When you find a Dravidian Albino with those nasal attributes, be sure to post it.


You have nowhere to go, there is no way that anyone could confuse that as anything but a Black mans skull. Usually at this time you get really stupid, as you showed by asking such a stupid question. But If you do, you know what I will do. [/QB]

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you think a modern European can't have this nasal shape?
You are a know nothing
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
He,he,he,he:

When you find a Dravidian Albino with those nasal attributes, be sure to post it.


You have nowhere to go, there is no way that anyone could confuse that as anything but a Black mans skull. Usually at this time you get really stupid, as you showed by asking such a stupid question. But If you do, you know what I will do.

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you think a modern European can't have this nasal shape?
You are a know nothing

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I wonder if Ebony Allen is watching.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
you are a fvking idiot the top of the African skull's nasal opening is round, on the ancient Bulgarian pointed

Anyway not every European or African has the exact same skull jackass
 
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
He,he,he,he:

When you find a Dravidian Albino with those nasal attributes, be sure to post it.


You have nowhere to go, there is no way that anyone could confuse that as anything but a Black mans skull. Usually at this time you get really stupid, as you showed by asking such a stupid question. But If you do, you know what I will do.

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you think a modern European can't have this nasal shape?
You are a know nothing [/QB]

Let me guess, in tiny Europe people have a large diversity of nasal shape, in situ development as well.

Africa, which has the oldest and longest history of mankind is locked in a stereotype of nasal shape. Yep, we get it. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
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Neanderthal skull discovered in Gibraltar in 1848.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
__________________  -
_________________^^^^^ which nasal opening below is more similar to this ?


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Ha,ha,ha,ha:
 
Posted by Omo Baba (Member # 18816) on :
 
Good job Mike. Shame the devil.
 
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
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_________________^^^^^ which nasal opening below is more similar to this ?


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Yes, I wonder?
Especially the nasal bone region.

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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
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The same skull right? WRONG
this is a visual lie that Troll Patrol likes to trick people with^^^^
but he never reveals its's trick. He wants to pass it off as truth.
And it's pretty clever I got fooled by it they both have that cut around the top of the head


The picture is a set of two. The trickery is that with no caption it fools people into thinking it's that same skull at different angles when it's not. I don't know why people have to resort to these slick gimmicks.
The skull at left is a the skull from Varna Necroplis Cemetary, Bulgaria 4700-4200 BC. The skull at right is an African skull.
If I didn't point this out he never would. He wil just leave it there and people may even copy it into other websites assuming it's the same skull at differnt angles. This is how bullshit spreads


this is the actual skull oe museum display, again.
It may be a cast of a real skull. I'm not sure about it but it is the same skull as the skull in the top view

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There is nothing wrong with leaving a caption off and having people guess what it is.
But it's wrong to put up several skulls and have a set of two which tricks people into thinking it's one skull at different angles. Mike does the same thing, deception.
It's like an optical illusion. When you look at the nasal opening of the two skulls, when one is at angle they appear to be the same but they are not the same.

Mike only shows this top angle photo on his website
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But he won't show this straightfoward angle
of the same skull, It's one of his scams,
lying by omission and angles
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Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
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The same skull right? WRONG
this is a visual lie that Troll Patrol likes to trick people with^^^^
but he never reveals its's trick. He wants to pass it off as truth.
And it's pretty clever I got fooled by it they both have that cut around the top of the head


The picture is a set of two. The trickery is that with no caption it fools people into thinking it's that same skull at different angles when it's not. I don't know why people have to resort to these slick gimmicks.
The skull at left is a the skull from Varna Necroplis Cemetary, Bulgaria 4700-4200 BC. The skull at right is an African skull.
If I didn't point this out he never would. He wil just leave it there and people may even copy it into other websites assuming it's the same skull at differnt angles. This is how bullshit spreads


this is the actual skull oe museum display, again.
It may be a cast of a real skull. I'm not sure about it but it is the same skull as the skull in the top view

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There is nothing wrong with leaving a caption off and having people guess what it is.
But it's wrong to put up several skulls and have a set of two which tricks people into thinking it's one skull at different angles. Mike does the same thing, deception.
It's like an optical illusion. When you look at the nasal opening of the two skulls, when one is at angle they appear to be the same but they are not the same.

Mike only shows this top angle photo on his website
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But he won't show this straightfoward angle
of the same skull, It's one of his scams,
lying by omission and angles
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I did not trick no one, that images was the only one available at the time.


You still lose big time!


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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
I did not trick no one, that images was the only one available at the time.



At the time it was the only image you had.
Since that time you know better. Yet you still use the old 2 set picture which is very misleading, by your intention.
 


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