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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
{I think this material warrants thought. If you read the page before, you will find this one different}.

http://realhistoryww.com./world_history/ancient/Misc/Races/The_races.htm


Children often ask, why are American Indians called "Red Men"?
They correctly point out that today's Indians look just like ordinary White people.

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Of course the answer is that TODAY, they ARE ordinary White people, or mostly ordinary White people. Like modern Egyptians, Berbers, Persians, Mesopotamian's, Jews, and others: they have very little, or nothing, to do with the original people, whose heritage they claim.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
They persist: but why were they called "Red Men", are there really Red People?

The answer to that question requires a lesson in the original categories of Human Race colors, and in how Human Race works.

Originally there was...

The Black Race: as epitomized by Africans.

The Red Race: as epitomized by American Indians.

The Yellow Race: as epitomized by the Chinese.

The White Race: as epitomized by the Dravidian Albinos of Central Asia.



The list of people above, is in the order of the Melanin content of their skin.

Melanin (Greek: melas, "black, dark") is a broad term for a group of natural pigments found in most organisms. Melanin is produced by the oxidation of the amino acid tyrosine, followed by polymerization. The pigment is produced in a specialized group of cells known as melanocytes. In the skin, melanogenesis occurs after exposure to UV radiation, causing the skin to visibly tan. Melanin is an effective absorber of light; the pigment is able to dissipate over 99.9% of absorbed UV radiation. Because of this property, melanin is thought to protect skin cells from UVB radiation damage, reducing the risk of cancer. Furthermore, though exposure to UV radiation is associated with increased risk of malignant melanoma, a cancer of the melanocytes, studies have shown a lower incidence for skin cancer in individuals with more concentrated melanin, i.e. darker skin tone.
Types of melanin

Some of the different types of melanin include eumelanin, pheomelanin and neuromelanin. Eumelanin is found in the hair, skin and dark areas around the nipples. It is particularly abundant among black populations. Eumelanin provides black and brown pigment to the hair, skin and eyes. When eumelanin is present only in small amounts, hair may be blonde. Pheomelanin is also found in the hair and skin. This type of melanin provides pink and red colors and is the main pigment found among red-haired individuals. This type of melanin is not as protective against UV- radiation induced cancer as eumelanin. Neuromelanin is a form of melanin found in different areas of the brain and loss of this melanin may cause several neurological disorders.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
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Clearly then, these two people have in their skin:
an overwhelming amount of Eumelanin, and very little or no Pheomelanin.

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Conversely: these two people have in their skin, an overwhelming amount of Pheomelanin,
and very little Eumelanin: Thus they are Albinos (OCA2 not the most extreme OCA1):
from the Latin "Albus" meaning White.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^The above people account for Humans at the extremes of skin colors:
all others are a mixture of Blacks and Albinos (or in other words: varying mixtures of Eumelanin and Pheomelanin).




The Yellow Race: as epitomized by the Chinese.




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Originally the Chinese had a Yellow "Hue" to their skin, because they were the Mulattoes of the original Mongol type Africans who settled East Asia: these people were later known as the Xia, Shang, and Jomon.


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Over time, the Black Africans admixed with Albinos to became the modern Chinese.


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Of course everyone remembers that Albinism sometimes STRAIGHTENS Hair.


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
But over the millennia, the Chinese have moved inextricably toward Albinohood.

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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
The Chinese of today are no longer "Yellow".
As a matter of fact, due to their distaste for dark skin, and their preference for "Pale" mates:


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They are moving ever closer to the "Full" Albinohood of most Europeans.
As can be seen in these Chinese crowd photos,
today's Chinese people have a noticeable change in facial features,
and a definite "Pink" tinge to their skin!


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
And of course, with Albinism comes the "Self Defense" mechanism of "Racism".

The logic to that is that though they don't want to "Be" Black,

they also don't want to have to "Compete" with Blacks.

They understand that to be a losing proposition.

So like the Europeans, they are building barriers of Racism

to isolate themselves from Blacks, and the accompanying competition from Blacks.

The problem with that: is that both China and Europe are desperate for

African "Raw Materials": without which, they cannot hope to sustain themselves.

As of now, Africans are still too backward to understand their true position,

but if and when, they come to understand the outside world:

then we may see a completely new world-wide dynamic. One the

likes of which, we haven't seen since the Albinos usurped Blacks in Europe.

And though China is becoming quite racist,

it is still much more subtlety done than it is with Europeans.


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Of course, not All Black Chinese chose to mate with Albinos.

(Left - though this man's son did).


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
So where can we go to find real Yellow people?

Perhaps we should go to the United States, to the State of Texas: which has as it's State Song,

a ballad about a young Black man yearning for his Yellow-skinned Girlfriend.


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Rather - in the nearby State of California, there is a ready-made example.


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(He plays for the "Golden" State Warriors - get it?)
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Okay, we have accounted for the Black Man, the White Man, and the Yellow Man:

though not the ones we were expecting.

So how do you get a "Red Man"? Are these people Indians, they have Red Skin?


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No, they are not Indians, they are just ordinary White people with
Sunburn, Rosacea, Make-up, or simple "Photo-Shopping".


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
From "Real-Life" experience, we know that "Dark-Brown Skinned People"

develop a "RED HUE" to their skin after spending extended time in the Sun.


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
So does that mean that the "TRUE" American Indians had "DARK BROWN SKIN"?

As we can see from these portraits of "REAL" Indians...

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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
This page is important, not only to clarify Who and What modern Chinese are:

But also to clarify Who and What the American Indian "WAS".

 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
How often have we seen things like this?

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Or paintings like this:


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We just can't seem to get away from Albino Fantasy!
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Happily, it seems that some peoples art is catching up to reality. The boys at deviant art are starting to draw American Indians in a more realist (Dark-skinned) way.




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Medicine Crow - Apsaroke photo by Edward S. Curtis in 1908


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Deviant art coloration





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RED WING - Apsaroke photo by Edward S. Curtis in 1908


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Deviant art coloration


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More photos by Edward S. Curtis can be found at this link.

http://curtis.library.northwestern.edu/curtis/viewPage.cgi?showp=1&size=3&id=nai.04.port.00000001&volume=4#nav
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^The American Indians "True" coloration, is of course in keeping with their cousins to the South.


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Posted by Caveman (Member # 18722) on :
 
Boy, you must have plenty of time on your hands!

Great job of proving that racism exist within the black elites circles, so that whites need not to worry about being politically correct.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Caveman:
Boy, you must have plenty of time on your hands!

Great job of proving that racism exist within the black elites circles, so that whites need not to worry about being politically correct.

I spend my time researching, that's why I know this sh1t.

Finding out and exposing the machinations of Albinos and their "Near" Mulattoes is NOT Racism, it is merely "Truth".
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Caveman:
Boy, you must have plenty of time on your hands!

Great job of proving that racism exist within the black elites circles, so that whites need not to worry about being politically correct.

RELATED:


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Rev. Norvel Goff prays at the empty seat of the Rev. Clementa Pinckney at the Emanuel A.M.E. Church four days after a mass shooting that claimed the lives of Pinckney and eight others in Charleston, S.C. Some family members of those killed in the church shooting have said they forgive the man who's been charged. But others in the African-American community say offering forgiveness so quickly may not be the best idea.


Forgiveness of Charleston church shooter prompts discussion
Associated Press By JESSE J. HOLLAND


http://news.yahoo.com/forgiveness-charleston-church-shooter-prompts-discussion-121557422.html


CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) — Under an outdoor tent a few blocks from Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church, Sharon Simmons paused while cleaning up from the previous night's revival to ponder the idea of forgiving the white man accused of killing nine of the historic black church's members, including the pastor.


A churchgoer herself, Simmons admits feeling torn between her anger and her Christian inclination to forgive. She also adds that she's a firm believer in capital punishment. "Too many lives are gone," the 57-year-old former New Yorker says.

Many African-Americans are struggling with those same feelings as the nation begins to move past the tragedy in Charleston. Although many say their religious faith requires them to forgive, there is a question of whether a public narrative of quick forgiveness actually provides cover for whites to avoid facing racism.

"It's almost like white America is telling us, 'Help us to forget the past by telling us that you forgive us,'" said Raymond Winbush, director of the Institute for Urban Research at Morgan State University in Baltimore.

Just one day after the June 17 massacre at Emanuel, Chris Singleton, the college student son of victim Sharonda Coleman-Singleton, said he forgave his mother's killer. The following day, family members of the dead joined the first court hearing for the suspected killer, 21-year-old Dylann Roof, and told him via video conference that they, too, forgave him — even as some acknowledged also feeling angry and hurt.

"Everyone's plea for your soul is proof that they lived in love, and their legacies will live in love. So hate won't win," said Alana Simmons, granddaughter of Emanuel victim the Rev. Daniel Simmons.

Similarly, forgiveness was extended in recent days after several Southern black churches burned down in a spate of fires, some of which were deemed suspicious.

"We've already forgiven them, and we want to move forward," the Rev. Mannix Kinsey, pastor of Briar Creek Road Baptist Church in Charlotte, North Carolina, told WBTV. "And we are hoping this is an opportunity for Christ to show himself in their hearts."

Those who extend forgiveness say they are not naive in doing so. Some say they are still a working at it, and they make clear that forgiveness is not the only emotion they have about the racial events that are unfolding.

"It makes us angry. It makes some of us want to explode," the Rev. Jonathan V. Newton said Wednesday during midweek services at Metropolitan AME Church in Washington, which has increased security at its historic sanctuary since the Charleston killings. But forgiveness is "not about that person, it's about you," Newton said. "In order for you to be free, you've got to let it out."

One factor at play is that forgiveness is a strong Christian tradition, and African-Americans identify as Christians more than any other group in the United States. According to the Pew Research Center, nearly 80 percent of blacks identified as Christian in 2014, compared with 77 percent of Hispanics and 70 percent of non-Hispanic whites. A smaller number of blacks, 18 percent, identified as agnostic, atheist or "nothing in particular," compared with 24 percent of whites and 20 percent of Hispanics.

Beyond religious purposes, experts say, immediate forgiveness probably helped to forestall reactionary violence in Charleston, denying Roof the race war that police said he told them he wanted to start. Charleston remained peaceful after the killings at Emanuel, a stark contrast to the violence that broke out in Ferguson, Missouri, and Baltimore after the deaths of black men in encounters with police.

The Rev. Norvel Goff, interim pastor succeeding the late Rev. Clementa Pinckney at Emanuel, said self-preservation is also a motive — forgiving does more for the person who is hurting than the one who caused the pain.

"We're not in control of those who may commit evil acts, but we are in control of how we respond to it," Goff said.

Such was the sentiment of Martin Luther King Jr.'s father and sister as they forgave King's killer James Earl Ray, and Marcus Chenault, who shot and killed King's mother, Alberta Williams King, in 1974 as she played the organ during Sunday services at Atlanta's Ebenezer Baptist Church.

"Hate won't bring my mother or brother back. It would only destroy me," Christine King Farris told JET magazine in 1984.

Myrlie Evers-Williams, former NAACP national chairwoman, said she was moved to tears to see the Emanuel families speak immediately of forgiveness. She said forgiveness was a lengthy process for her. Harboring thoughts of vengeance for the 1963 murder of her husband, NAACP leader Medgar Evers, motivated her activism, but for her own peace she eventually let it go.

"The hatred has ended up as a motivational tool, and the forgiveness has been a salvation for me," said Evers-Williams.

Historically, Winbush said, African-Americans have been expected to forgive for slavery, discrimination, Jim Crow segregation, attacks by the Ku Klux Klan and police violence. By meeting that expectation, he said, "in one sense we aid and abet those who would commit those crimes."

Ansley M. LaMar, a professor at New Jersey City University, pointed out that the civil rights movement was born out of anger, but the nonviolence and forgiveness it espoused is what people remember about it most.

"There was an understanding that there was a community of black people who were not going to take it if it kept on happening," LaMar said. "So being forgiving doesn't mean being a wimp. It doesn't mean, white folks, you can walk all over me. It means I forgive you, but I'm not going to let this happen again."
 
Posted by kdolo (Member # 21830) on :
 
"So being forgiving doesn't mean being a wimp. It doesn't mean, white folks, you can walk all over me. It means I forgive you, but I'm not going to let this happen again."


Silly Negroes......so confused......
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
As you can see Caveman, you still have the Negroes confused, but I and others, know that you do not want forgiveness, what you want is the "PEACE" to enjoy your ill-gotten gains.

That is why we say "No Justice No Peace".

And for myself, I add, "No Truth No Peace".

 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Question for you Caveman:

Are you surprised or even amazed, that there are so many Negroes who misunderstand you, and the situation?

I am.

A similar situation exists in Africa.

That is why I often speculate that those people are of African extraction.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
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The similarity is evident

Clyde says even though these people are dark, their race is Mongoloid not Negroid, not Black Native Americans

Clyde's teachings> Mike's teachings
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
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Likewise this a dark skinned Caucasoid, not a "mulatto"
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^Go away you lying Ass.

Don't come back until you can prove that man is NOT a Mulatto.

Btw - to cut off whatever lying stupidity you might have in mind.

We know anecdotally that people of his phenotype are mulattoes.

Therefore it is for YOU to prove that he is not a mulatto.

Now get lost.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
Again according to Dr. Winters the Indian above "Medicine Crow" posted by Mike is Mongolid not Black Native American, not Negroid

Dr. Winters will clarify
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
So does that mean that the "TRUE" American Indians had "DARK BROWN SKIN"?

As we can see from these portraits of "REAL" Indians...

YES!

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^^^ Again according to Dr. Winters these are Mongoloids not true blacks


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
Again according to Dr. Winters these are Mongoloids not true blacks


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Though they "DERIVE" from True Blacks...

THESE:


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They themselves are not true Blacks.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:

Originally posted by Mike111:
So does that mean that the "TRUE" American Indians had "DARK BROWN SKIN"?

As we can see from these portraits of "REAL" Indians...

YES!


But what has Mongolians got to do with this statement of mine???

You are such a degenerate, can't you think of something intelligent to say?
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:

Originally posted by Mike111:
So does that mean that the "TRUE" American Indians had "DARK BROWN SKIN"?

As we can see from these portraits of "REAL" Indians...

YES!


But what has Mongolians got to do with this statement of mine???

You are such a degenerate, can't you think of something intelligent to say?

I'll explain it to your dumb ass again. According to Dr. Winters dark skinned Mongoloid "Indians" are recent arrivals and are not the REAL Negroid Indians

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Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
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peep the hair
Clyde says these are the true black Botocudos,REAL Indians, notice the African style lip plate

Caucasoids and Mongoloids are "derived from" Negroids, so what, we are dealing with true blacks here, not passers
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

THESE:

Mongol type Africans
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They themselves are not true Blacks.

Yes they are true BLACKS and as soon as Clyde gets here he will school you on it

"Black" as defined by Dr. Winters, not whiteboy-ologists

^^^ Khosians and Himba are not Mongoloids, don't have Mongoloid DNA, don't have bone straight hair and their eye fold is of a different type, stop the foolishness


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
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Lioness - there is no substitute for good reading comprehension.

 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

The Yellow Race: as epitomized by the Chinese.


Originally the Chinese had a Yellow "Hue" to their skin, because they were the Mulattoes of the original Mongol type Africans who settled East Asia: these people were later known as the Xia, Shang, and Jomon.


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Over time, the Black Africans admixed with Albinos to became the modern Chinese.

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A word of clarification here:

For expediency sake, I grouped "ALL" Black East Asians as Mongol phenotype, like those Himba and San shown.

But here is the thing:

Not all, (as a matter of fact, the minority) of Himba have Mongol features.

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Young Himba man - Angola

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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
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this is one of Mike's famous lies

Check any source that describe how these figures were painted. They were not painted black. That is a 100% LIE Mike is trying to put over.
The terracotta army are in various conditions. Most like the ones in the above picture have nearly no paint on them, only a few flakes. -look it up on google the words
"terracotta army" "color""grey""paint"

The term Terracotta is also used to refer to items made out of this material and to its natural, brownish orange color, which varies considerably. The iron content gives the fired body a yellow, orange, red, "terracotta", pink, grey or brown color.
The term Terracotta is often used to describe unpainted clay sculpture. The Terracotta army is called the Terracotta army because on the vast majority of figures little to no paint survived that once covered the figures.

Examples of color variation in UNPAINTED Terracotta >>>

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The about 8,000 soldier Terracotta army is made of clay that is naturally swirled with both gray and orangish-red color . .


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http://www.travelchinaguide.com/attraction/shaanxi/xian/terra_cotta_army/sculpture.htm

The Qin terracotta warriors we see today are steel grey without fresh colors. But archaeological investigations have found that this was not the original color of the mighty force. In the April of 1999, there were astonishingly unearthed six kneeling armored warriors whose bodies retained large sections of colorful painting, which demonstrated that the Qin's artisans had elaborately painted the terracotta warriors and horses after firing, to make this majestic army more lifelike.


http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2012/06/terra-cotta-warriors/larmer-text

Qin’s army of clay soldiers and horses was not a somber procession but a supernatural display swathed in a riot of bold colors: red and green, purple and yellow. Sadly, most of the colors did not survive the crucible of time—or the exposure to air that comes with discovery and excavation. In earlier digs, archaeologists often watched helplessly as the warriors’ colors disintegrated in the dry Xian air. One study showed that once exposed, the lacquer underneath the paint begins to curl after 15 seconds and flake off in just four minutes—vibrant pieces of history lost in the time it takes to boil an egg.

Now a combination of serendipity and new preservation techniques is revealing the terra-cotta army’s true colors. A three-year excavation in Xian’s most famous site, known as Pit 1, has yielded more than a hundred soldiers, some still adorned with painted features, including black hair, pink faces, and black or brown eyes. The best-preserved specimens were found at the bottom of the pit, where a layer of mud created by flooding acted as a sort of 2,000-year-long spa treatment.



AS IS PROVEN BY THE BROKEN OFF NECK THE COLOR OF THE CLAY IS GRAY
THE PAINT IS THE LIGHT ORANGY PINKISH COLOR
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here's the URL>

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2012/06/terra-cotta-find/img/05-pinkish-tint-face-paint-horizontal-670.jpg

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AGAIN THE LIGHT ORANGY PINKISH^^^ COLOR ON THE HAND IS PAINT APPLIED TO THE GRAY CLAY

AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SHOULDER RED PAINT IS FALLING OFF THE GRAY CLAY


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NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE BELOW FIGURES, (TWO PHOTOS)
PART OF THE 8000 SOLDIERS, THAT HAVE LITTLE TO NO PAINT LEFT ON THEM, YET BECAUSE THE VARYING IRON CONTENT IN THE TERRACOTTA CLAY USED, SOME FIGURES ARE MORE REDDISH WHILE OTHERS ARE MORE GRAYISH

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Mike you lying swine, why do you keep trying to trick people?
-Guess what, I have seen some of the terrocitta army in person and I know first hand you are lying
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
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Whereas, when we look at this Shang? artifact, we can clearly see that though the person depicted is a Black man, he is NOT of Mongol phenotype.


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Likewise this known Shang artifact.


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LIKEWISE WITH THE AINU:


Their artifacts clearly show them to be Black people:

But again:

NOT OF MONGOL PHENOTYPE!

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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
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So the question has to be asked...

WHY IS THE QIN ARMY "ONLY" OF NEGROID PHENOTYPE SOLDIERS????


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^Clyde, do you have any thoughts on this?


Btw - aren't we all just really too tired of lioness stupidity?

Damn, I wish the Sage had taken this idiot with him.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

The Yellow Race: as epitomized by the Chinese.


Originally the Chinese had a Yellow "Hue" to their skin, because they were the Mulattoes of the original Mongol type Africans who settled East Asia: these people were later known as the Xia, Shang, and Jomon.


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Over time, the Black Africans admixed with Albinos to became the modern Chinese.

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A word of clarification here:

For expediency sake, I grouped "ALL" Black East Asians as Mongol phenotype, like those Himba and San shown.

But here is the thing:

Not all, (as a matter of fact, the minority) of Himba have Mongol features.

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Young Himba man - Angola

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The "SAME" holds true for the San.


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Fool these Africans are not Mongolid type Africans they are Negroids with an eye fold

By your reasoning then the vast majority of Africans are "Caucasian type Africans" because their eye shape is more similar to Caucasian eye types
Plus East Asian bone straight hair is straighter than both the average European and average African and it has a thicker strand which can me measured

Enough with the Mickey Mouse eyeballing and man on the street theorizing
This is 2015, we have genetics


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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:


Black Africans admixed with Albinos to became the modern Chinese.

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^^^ THIS IS STUPID AND WRONG,

MIKE . STOP THE BULLSHYT
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:


I think this material warrants thought. If you read the page before, you will find this one different.

Children often ask, why are American Indians called "Red Men"?
They correctly point out that today's Indians look just like ordinary White people.


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http://realhistoryww.com./world_history/ancient/Misc/Races/The_races.htm



Yes the woman on the left looks like a white person and we know that the Inidans
have mixed with Europeans and Africans.
But the the guy on the right does not look white he clearly looks Asian.
Come on Mike, you can't be serious !!!!

Who but you woud say he looks "just like ordinary White people" ?? Even a child wouldn't

So if you could please correct this on your website because it's coming off silly

Also "red" and "yellow" are not races, stop spreading this anitquated nonsense
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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
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So the question has to be asked...

WHY IS THE QIN ARMY "ONLY" OF NEGROID PHENOTYPE SOLDIERS????


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SHANG DYNASTY
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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:


Of course everyone remembers that Albinism sometimes STRAIGHTENS Hair.



stop lying you fraud
 
Posted by Child Of The KING (Member # 9422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
And of course, with Albinism comes the "Self Defense" mechanism of "Racism".

The logic to that is that though they don't want to "Be" Black,

they also don't want to have to "Compete" with Blacks.

They understand that to be a losing proposition.

So like the Europeans, they are building barriers of Racism

to isolate themselves from Blacks, and the accompanying competition from Blacks.

The problem with that: is that both China and Europe are desperate for

African "Raw Materials": without which, they cannot hope to sustain themselves.

As of now, Africans are still too backward to understand their true position,

but if and when, they come to understand the outside world:

then we may see a completely new world-wide dynamic. One the

likes of which, we haven't seen since the Albinos usurped Blacks in Europe.

And though China is becoming quite racist,

it is still much more subtlety done than it is with Europeans.


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Mike, wah appen to ya?

China is a Country Where Our Christian Family is building Up the Kingdom that Lifes in the Midst:

quote:
Luke 17:21
Nor Will People Say, "Here It Is" or "There It Is" because the Kingdom of God is In Your Midst

Can't say look at Chinese wearing that face kini [Embarrassed] , They are Racists.

People is People,

Possibly some people(brainwashed) wear that cause they dislike there Color?

The Thing though is that, The Pics I saw that you posted even though the pic was Blurry the People in the Background NONE had a whats that thing, face kini [Embarrassed] ?

Remeber that gehazis,pharasees,principalites, can seduce people so quick to hate from Love just as quick as you Coughing!!!

Remember in the Holy Bible the Book of The Teaching of the Apostles:

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Acts 14:8-12,14,18-19

8In Lystra there sat a man, who was Lame. He had Been that way from Birth. and Had never Walked

9 He Listened to Paul as he was speaking. Paul looked Directly at Him.Saw That he had Faith to be healed.

10 And Called Out "stand up on Your Feet" At that the Man Jumped up and began to walk

11 When the crowd Saw,What Paul had Done, They Shouted in the Lyconian language "The Gods Have come down in human Form

12 Barnabas they Called Zeus and Paul they called Hermes because he is the Chief Speaker

14 But When the Apostles, Paul and Barnabas heard this, they tore there clothes and rushed out into the crowd

18 Even with these Words, They had Difficult time keeping the Crowd from sacrificing to them.

19 Then Some Jews Came from antioch and iconium and won the crowd over. They Stoned Paul and dragged him outside the City, thinking he was dead

20 But After the Disiciples had gathered around Him, he got up and went back into the City. The Next day He and Barnabas left for Derbe

So you see that People can be Seduced almost as fast as lightning flashing.

So Naw Claim that the Chinese are Racist, Say Some of them have been brainwashed!!

Remember that Africans are in China, Chinese are In Africa.

Kinda odd that the computer(net) It's hard to find positivity About Africans in China. As If they are desperate to divide the people. What a Shock [Roll Eyes] .

Found this though

Africans In China

http://allafrica.com/stories/201506090897.html

Southern African Neighbourhood thriving in China

http://www.npr.org/2012/04/27/151300553/in-southern-china-a-thriving-african-neighborhood

Notice If you write Africans in China, one of the links that comes up is the gayrabic aljazeera america!!! [Roll Eyes]

Just Remember Mike that, People Will Listen! Speak Truth and They Will Hear, No need to tough Love for Everyone. Sometimes you just point out the minor agents and then Point to the Positive of the Awakened.

That's Why Our Family, True Christians are fighting for the Chinese People

China's Christian Fend off the communist crackdown on Faith
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10893715/Chinas-Christians-fend-off-church-demolition-crew-amid-latest-Communist-Party-crackdown-on-faith.html


China On Course To Become Worlds most Christian Nation

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10776023/China-on-course-to-become-worlds-most-Christian-nation-within-15-years.html


Christian Brothers and Sisters are Saving People, theBreaking atheism from China and rememebr that china is a country where freedom of speech, basically even thinking is something that the state tries to hinder.

Look north korea where the government post just propoganda about how great north korea is etc comunist leaders just post videos of 4-8 hours of them just talking, they don't debate ideas, They just show pictures of military and the leaders of the country, some places possibly 24hours thats all they show.

Thats called indoctrination.

So You must not get upset with People when they Leave there country and are against-social interaction. You must excuse The Chinese in China if some are igbnorant about Africans. thats Why the Christians are Doing there Part in the Country.

Cause You Must Know that Black, White, Red, Brown and Yellow are Represented in the Body of Christ:

quote:
Luke 17:20-21
20 Now Having been questioned by the Pharasees as to when the Kingdom of God was coming, He Answered them and Jesus said "The Kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed:

Nor Will people say, "Here It Is" or "There It Is", because the Kingdom of God is Within You


 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^KING - you are hopeless!


http://www.thechinaexpat.com/racism-in-china/

Racism against black people may be the strongest form of racism in China.

Many families in China would be horrified if their son or daughter married a black person. Some would even disown them outright.

It can be difficult getting a job teaching English in China if you are black. This is because of the perception of many people in China that only white people are ‘true Americans’ or ‘true English’ people.

Sadly, it’s often easier to get a job teaching English in China as a white person from a country where English is not a native language than as a black person from a country where English is the only native language.

Many people in China think most black people play basketball and are violent. If you are black, many people from China will perceive you as African. If you are not, you will have to repeatedly explain that you are from another country.

The most common slur against black people in Chinese seems worse than that used for white people – “black ghost” vs. “old ghost”. Many people in China also assume that if you are black, you have very little money.

Racism against blacks in China is also strongly linked to the class divisions and racism that exists within Chinese society. This is not a justification for racism against blacks in China, but for thousands of years Chinese people of lighter skin looked down upon those of darker skin, who often could not afford to be anything other than a peasant farmer.
Racism Against Other Races in China

Though racism in China is strongest against black people, there is a general relationship that determines how foreigners are seen by many people in China: The darker your skin, the more racism you will experience.

No matter where you grew up, if you are not white it will be tougher to get a job teaching English in China.
 
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
 
There are more black people statues (black Europeans) in Graeco Roman arts as we can see in the Books the Image of The Black in Western Art and Frank Snowden Black in Antiquity then in Chinese arts.A Chinese doctor DNA prove that the original Chinese were black people, there should be more black people statues in Chinese art. The Chineses are very good in hiding and destroying the Black Chinese statues.
 
Posted by Clyde Winters (Member # 10129) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mena7:
There are more black people statues (black Europeans) in Graeco Roman arts as we can see in the Books the Image of The Black in Western Art and Frank Snowden Black in Antiquity then in Chinese arts.A Chinese doctor DNA prove that the original Chinese were black people, there should be more black people statues in Chinese art. The Chineses are very good in hiding and destroying the Black Chinese statues.

You are absolutely correct. The Chinese , like Europeans make numerous pieces of art to make it appear that they are the history makers.

Back in the day when I was regularly reading Chinese archaeological publications they usually mention artifacts discovered in excavations but they regularly never published them.

let's not forget Americans popularized the myth that all Native Americans looked like the Hopi and Lenape/Apache phenotype, until researchers started publishing pictures of the Carolina Indians and other Indians in the Northeast that were phenotypically negro.

There are probably plenty of Black Chinese artifacts that the Communist Government is hiding.One day we may see these works.
 
Posted by Clyde Winters (Member # 10129) on :
 
Many people assume that the Han are a monolithic tribe. This is false. The Chinese make it clear that there are 65 branches of the Chinese race. This results from the fact that China has been conquered over the years by numerous nomadic groups including the Hua, the first Mongoloid group to conquer the majority of Black Nations in China. The Chinese nomads mated with the Black Chinese.

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The Qin were basically a mixed mongoloid-negro group. Over time the Chinese lost the features associated with a mixed race as numerous nomadic mongogoid groups from the Steppes regularly conquered and ruled China, including Tungusic and Mongolian populations thus we see Jurchen, Merkits, Naimans, Mongols, Cantonese, Hakka, Minnan and Teochew plus many more tribes making up the modern Chinese population.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
let's not forget Americans popularized the myth that all Native Americans looked like the Hopi and Lenape/Apache phenotype, until researchers started publishing pictures of the Carolina Indians and other Indians in the Northeast that were phenotypically negro.

Columbia University

The Written Record of the Voyage of 1524 of Giovanni da Verrazano as recorded in a letter to Francis I, King of France, July 8th, 1524


[Adapted from a translation by Susan Tarrow of the Cellere Codex, in Lawrence C. Wroth, ed., The Voyages of Giovanni da Verrazzano, 1524-1528 (Yale, 1970), pp. 133-143]

... Since the storm that we encountered in the northern regions, Most Serene King, I have not written to tell Your Majesty of what happened to the four ships which you sent over the Ocean to explore new lands, as I thought that you had already been informed of everything--how we were forced by the fury of the winds to return in distress to Brittany with only the Normandy and the Dauphine, and that after undergoing repairs there, began our voyage with these two ships, equipped for war, following the coasts of Spain, Your Most Serene Majesty will have heard; and then according to our new plan, we continued the original voyage with only the Dauphine; now on our return from this voyage I will tell Your Majesty of what we found.

We set sail with the Dauphine from the deserted rock near the Island of Madeira, which belongs to the Most Serene King of Portugal on the 17th day of January last; we had fifty men, and were provided with food for eight months, with arms and other articles of war, and naval munitions; we sailed westward on the gentle breath of a light easterly wind. In 25 days we covered eight hundred leagues. On the 24th day of February we went through a storm as violent as ever sailing man encountered. We were delivered from it with the divine help and goodness of the ship, whose glorious name and happy destiny enabled her to endure the violent waves of the sea. We continued on our westerly course keeping rather to the north. In another 25 days we sailed more than four hundred leagues where there appeared a new land which had never been seen before by any man, either Ancient or modern.

At first it appeared to be rather low-lying; having approached within a quarter of a league, we realized that it was inhabited, for huge fires had been built on the seashore. We saw that the land stretched southward, and coasted along it in search of some port where we might anchor the ship and investigate the nature of the land, but in fifty leagues we found no harbor or place where we could stop with the ship.

Seeing that the land continued to the south we decided to turn and skirt it toward the north, where we found the land we had sighted earlier. So we anchored off the coast and sent the small boat in to land. We had seen many people coming to the seashore, but they fled when they saw us approaching; several times they stopped and turned around to look at us in great wonderment. We reassured them with various signs, and some of them came up, showing great delight at seeing us and marveling at our clothes, appearance, and our whiteness; they showed us by various signs where we could most easily secure the boat, and offered us some of their food. We were on land, and I shall now tell Your Majesty briefly what we were able to learn of their life and customs.

They go completely naked except that around their loins they wear skins of small animals like martens, with a narrow belt of grass around the body, to which they tie various tails of other animals which hang down to the knees; the rest of the body is bare, and so is the head. Some of them wear garlands of birds’ feathers. They are dark in color (some use the word Black: it's up to the translator), not unlike the Ethiopians, with thick black hair, not very long, tied back behind the head like a small tail. As for the physique of these men, they are well proportioned, of medium height, a little taller than we are. They have broad chests, strong arms, and the legs and other parts of the body are well composed. There is nothing else, except that they tend to be rather broad in the face: but not all, for we saw many with angular faces. They have big black eyes, and an attentive and open look. They are not very strong, but they have a sharp cunning, and are agile and swift runners. From what we could tell from observation, in the last two respects they resemble the Orientals, particularly those from the farthest Sinarian regions.

We could not learn the details of the life and customs of these people because of the short time we spent on land, due to the fact that there were few men, and the ship was anchored on the high seas. Not far from these people, we found others on the shore whose way of life we think is similar.


http://www.columbia.edu/~lmg21/ash3002y/earlyac99/documents/verrazan.htm
 
Posted by The Habsburg Agenda (Member # 21824) on :
 
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Bust of Bodhisattva Surrounded by a Monk and Devas (Mogao Cave)

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Painting from Dunhuang Mogao Mural Cave

 - Seated Buddha and Disciples (Query)
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^Lets try to stay in the Americas Habsburg.

Some drawings/paintings of the Carolina Indians that Verrazano (Verrazano-Narrows Bridge in New York City) described would be nice.
 
Posted by The Habsburg Agenda (Member # 21824) on :
 
You introduced the Chinese perspective.

There is no need to complicate the argument. We know how Indians in Asia looks like. If Columbus saw fit to label the people he saw in the Americas as Indian then we can be satisfied that the light-complexioned people who in contemporary North America are labelled as Indians are not what he saw.

Columbus did not specifically label the Indians he saw as 'Red'. Red is what I displayed in a previous post.

This is why some of the Indians were described as Red Indians.
often described as mahogany, sanguine, ruddy

as the saying goes:

The Red and the Black.

Redheads and Blackheads.


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Princess Sikhanyiso Dlamini of Swaziland

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Ato Boldon - Isn't his complexion a near perfect match for the Egyptian drawing?

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Anwar Sadat - President Mubarak's predecessor. You see an Egyptian looking like the Pharoahs, not that Zawi Hawass would want to admit it.

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Terry McMillan

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Philip of Hesse - Behind Glass, Lioness this one has been added specially just to rile you.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Child Of The KING:

China On Course To Become Worlds most Christian Nation

Turk Mulattoes heap more abuse and discrimination on Africans than anyone else.

Yet Muslim Blacks excuse it, because they are Muslims.

Now you are absolutely giddy that China is becoming more Christian: so much so, that you are willing to overlook their treatment of Blacks.

Ass-hole:

When the Mulattoes are abusing Blacks, they don't give a damn what religion they believe in.

Just like the Chinese don't give a damn what religion their Blacks believe in, they're Black, that's enough.

Do you theists start off so stupid, or does religion do that to you?
 
Posted by The Habsburg Agenda (Member # 21824) on :
 
Origin of the term Red Indian

Unfortunately they have been bred out or exterminated

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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
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You and I are "Negroids" but the people man below are not, they are Mongoloids



quote:
Originally posted by Mike111


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This is a "Negroid" aka Black >>>

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^^^ This is what the real Negroid Native Americans looked like

quote:
Originally Clyde Winters
Euronuts like Mongoloid Native Americans have spent their time stealing the history of
The Black Native Americans


So the Mongoloids at top have been stealing the history of the Native American Negroids
 
Posted by Clyde Winters (Member # 10129) on :
 
This reconstruction lacks any validity. Chatters maintains that this paleoamerican was a negro, not mongoloid.

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Posted by Child Of The KING (Member # 9422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^KING - you are hopeless!


http://www.thechinaexpat.com/racism-in-china/

Racism against black people may be the strongest form of racism in China.

Many families in China would be horrified if their son or daughter married a black person. Some would even disown them outright.

It can be difficult getting a job teaching English in China if you are black. This is because of the perception of many people in China that only white people are ‘true Americans’ or ‘true English’ people.

Sadly, it’s often easier to get a job teaching English in China as a white person from a country where English is not a native language than as a black person from a country where English is the only native language.

Many people in China think most black people play basketball and are violent. If you are black, many people from China will perceive you as African. If you are not, you will have to repeatedly explain that you are from another country.

The most common slur against black people in Chinese seems worse than that used for white people – “black ghost” vs. “old ghost”. Many people in China also assume that if you are black, you have very little money.

Racism against blacks in China is also strongly linked to the class divisions and racism that exists within Chinese society. This is not a justification for racism against blacks in China, but for thousands of years Chinese people of lighter skin looked down upon those of darker skin, who often could not afford to be anything other than a peasant farmer.
Racism Against Other Races in China

Though racism in China is strongest against black people, there is a general relationship that determines how foreigners are seen by many people in China: The darker your skin, the more racism you will experience.

No matter where you grew up, if you are not white it will be tougher to get a job teaching English in China.

Mike, You Posted the Picture of My Brother Stephen Curry who won the NBA Championship this Year.

Well did you Here About Another Baller who reps in China?

Stephon Marbury:


Marbury has repped in the Chinese Basketball Association since 2010, Is So Popular in China that After Leading The Beijing Duck Crew to a Championship a statue was erected outside the teams stadium

EDIT:

Stephon Marbury Signs 3 Year extension with the Beijing Ducks
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/marbury-reportedly-signs-years-china-article-1.1490442


Stephon Marbury "Alive Again" in China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opXSpFLJ750


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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
This reconstruction lacks any validity. Chatters maintains that this paleoamerican was a negro, not mongoloid.

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^^^ that is from realhistoryww.com so I assumed it was accurate

You will have to produce a quote and source for your claim about Chatters saying Kennewwick man was Negroid (you made that up)
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^^ here's Chatters book with that reconstruction right on the front cover!!


This is not a Negroid either
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quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
This reconstruction lacks any validity. Chatters maintains that this paleoamerican was a negro, not mongoloid.

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^^ But Clyde this doesn't look like a Mongoloid either,
Look, compare to the below solider


Mongoloid, not similar to Kennewick reconstruction
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Mongoloid Han Terracotta Army
Qin Dynasty, 210–209 BCE

(840 years after Shang)


http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/kennewick-man-finally-freed-share-his-secrets-180952462/?no-ist

Here's a more recent reconstruction of Kennewick man
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The skull, while clearly old, did not look Native American. At first glance, Chatters thought it might belong to an early pioneer or trapper.


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Clyde please do not engage this stupid bitch on my thread. Her intent is to destroy it's scholarly value. When you engage this bitch, you only give her/him opportunity.

In the future, all those wishing to engage lioness should start separate threads. You need only to look above to see why that is necessary.

 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Clyde please do not engage this stupid bitch on my thread. Her intent is to destroy it's scholarly value.

the pressure's on now, Tukular is not around to save you by deletion

quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
I think this material warrants thought. If you read the page before, you will find this one different

http://realhistoryww.com./world_history/ancient/Misc/Races/The_races.htm


Children often ask, why are American Indians called "Red Men"?
They correctly point out that today's Indians look just like ordinary White people.
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^^^ right here in the first post Mike renders himself incompetant
He has a photo of someone who is clearly Asian looking and he calls it

"today's Indians look just like ordinary White people."

Mike is blind as a bat
and his "scholarship" is below 5 year old level
What scholar of 2015 speaks of "the red race" and "the yellow race" ?? I was forced to take over the thread due to it's chronic errors

Mike even by realhistoryww.com standards this "The Races of Man" page is profoundly stupid
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
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___________________________why is the San woman here lighter yet more Negroid than the Peruvian?

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Posted by Child Of The KING (Member # 9422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Clyde please do not engage this stupid bitch on my thread. Her intent is to destroy it's scholarly value. When you engage this bitch, you only give her/him opportunity.

In the future, all those wishing to engage lioness should start separate threads. You need only to look above to see why that is necessary.

Mike, Don't let Her bother You.

lioness is posting her drown out routine. Drown the Thread in useless information, to try and cover up truth.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Child Of The KING:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Clyde please do not engage this stupid bitch on my thread. Her intent is to destroy it's scholarly value. When you engage this bitch, you only give her/him opportunity.

In the future, all those wishing to engage lioness should start separate threads. You need only to look above to see why that is necessary.

Mike, Don't let Her bother You.

lioness is posting her drown out routine. Drown the Thread in useless information, to try and cover up truth.

I understand that:

Therefore, if you don't respond to the degenerate, she/he will have nothing to respond to.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Child Of The KING:
Mike, Don't let Her bother You.

lioness is posting her drown out routine. Drown the Thread in useless information, to try and cover up truth.

quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
[QB] ^KING - you are hopeless!



Now, wait a minute maybe Child Of The KING can get us back on track.

Child Of The KING can you sum up what you've learned in this thread and how it ties in with the Bible?
Also what does the Bible have to say about red people?

I'll take a back seat now, you drive for a while
 
Posted by Child Of The KING (Member # 9422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by Child Of The KING:

China On Course To Become Worlds most Christian Nation

Turk Mulattoes heap more abuse and discrimination on Africans than anyone else.

Yet Muslim Blacks excuse it, because they are Muslims.

Now you are absolutely giddy that China is becoming more Christian: so much so, that you are willing to overlook their treatment of Blacks.

Ass-hole:

When the Mulattoes are abusing Blacks, they don't give a damn what religion they believe in.

Just like the Chinese don't give a damn what religion their Blacks believe in, they're Black, that's enough.

Do you theists start off so stupid, or does religion do that to you?

Mike, don't be Stupid,

china was closed OFF from the rest of the world, right? the people lived in a country where allthings, from Religion, Fun, Even Family and Children (One Child Policy) is controlled by the Government.

People Could not even look left or Right without the Governemnt asking what you looking at. People were basically Eating, Breathing, Living under stress and paranoia.

Thats Changing!

Credit True Christian Chinese that have been fighting for the rest of there People.

Why You think the Article states china could possibly become the Largest Christian Nation in 15 years!!!

China on Course to become the Largest Christian Nation in 15 years http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10776023/China-on-course-to-become-worlds-most-Christian-nation-within-15-years.html

Teachings like that is Grounded in the Ultimate Love, God the Son who created all things, Comes to earth 2000+ years ago, to die for All Humanity, and Rises again the 3rd day!!! No Greater Love then a Man lays down his life for another. God the Son laid down his Life for ALL MANKIND [Smile]


quote:
John 3:16-17
16 For God so loves the World, that he Gave his One and Only Son, That Whoever Believes in him shall not perish but have Eternal Life

17 For God Sent his Son Into the World Not To Judge the World, but that the World might be Saved through Him.

Forgiveness is just a Prayer and Repentance away.

quote:
Romans 10:9
If You Confess with Your Mouth that "Jesus is Lord" and Believe in Your Heart that God Raised Him from the Dead, You shall be Saved

EDIT:
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
^^^ teach, teach

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Christ is the new Buddha

quote:
Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova:

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Posted by kdolo (Member # 21830) on :
 
King,

Do the Chinese believe in " Fake White Man Jesus" or do they believe in "Fake Mongol Jesus" ???

.....according 5o the lioness painying they might be believing in a "Fake Mongol Jesus".

....but that makes more sense than believing in the "Fake White man jesus"......which would.prove the point that Chinese are smarter than Africans....
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Child Of The KING:
Credit True Christian Chinese that have been fighting for the rest of there People.

Why You think the Article states china could possibly become the Largest Christian Nation in 15 years!!!

Christians have been fighting???

Fighting WHO and HOW???

The Chinese government is more than happy to tolerate Christians, because they know how CORRUPT Christians are, they will cut a deal with anyone - and what liars. Also add ignorant, like you.

THESE PEOPLE ARE THE FIGHTERS!

Falun Gong - wiki:


Falun Gong or Falun Dafa (literally means "Dharma Wheel Practice" or "Law Wheel Practice") is a Chinese spiritual practice that combines meditation and qigong exercises with a moral philosophy centered on the tenets of Truthfulness, Compassion, and Forbearance. The practice emphasizes morality and the cultivation of virtue, and identifies as a qigong practice of the Buddhist school, though its teachings also incorporate elements drawn from Taoist traditions. Through moral rectitude and the practice of meditation, practitioners of Falun Gong aspire to better health and, ultimately, spiritual enlightenment.

Falun Gong was first taught publicly in Northeast China in 1992 by Li Hongzhi. It emerged toward the end of China's "qigong boom"—a period which saw the proliferation of similar practices of meditation, slow-moving exercises and regulated breathing. It differs from other qigong schools in its absence of fees or formal membership, lack of daily rituals of worship, its greater emphasis on morality, and the theological nature of its teachings. Western academics have described Falun Gong as a qigong discipline, a "spiritual movement", a "cultivation system" in the tradition of Chinese antiquity, or as a form of Chinese religion.

Although the practice initially enjoyed considerable support from Chinese officialdom, by the mid- to late-1990s, the Communist Party and public security organizations increasingly viewed Falun Gong as a potential threat due to its size, independence from the state, and spiritual teachings. By 1999, government estimates placed the number of Falun Gong practitioners at 70 million. Tensions culminated in April 1999, when over 10,000 Falun Gong practitioners gathered peacefully near the central government compound in Beijing to request legal recognition and freedom from state interference. This demonstration is widely seen as catalyzing the persecution that followed.

On 20 July 1999, the Communist Party leadership initiated a nationwide crackdown and multifaceted propaganda campaign intended to eradicate the practice. It blocked Internet access to websites that mention Falun Gong, and in October 1999 it declared Falun Gong a "heretical organization" that threatened social stability. Human rights groups report that Falun Gong practitioners in China are subject to a wide range of human rights abuses: hundreds of thousands are estimated to have been imprisoned extrajudicially, and practitioners in detention are subject to forced labor, psychiatric abuse, torture, and other coercive methods of thought reform at the hands of Chinese authorities.

As of 2009 at least 2,000 Falun Gong practitioners had died as a result of abuse in custody. Some observers put the number much higher, and report that tens of thousands may have been killed to supply China's organ transplant industry. In the years since the persecution began, Falun Gong practitioners have become active in advocating for greater human rights in China.


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Falun Gong founder Li Hongzhi has lived in the United States since 1996, and Falun Gong has a sizable global constituency. Inside China, some sources estimate that tens of millions continue to practice Falun Gong in spite of the persecution. Hundreds of thousands are estimated to practice Falun Gong outside China in over 70 countries worldwide
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kdolo:
King,

Do the Chinese believe in " Fake White Man Jesus" or do they believe in "Fake Mongol Jesus" ???

.....according 5o the lioness painying they might be believing in a "Fake Mongol Jesus".

....but that makes more sense than believing in the "Fake White man jesus"......which would.prove the point that Chinese are smarter than Africans....

There are Christian Churches in America that have a Black Jesus but more often there is no image of Jesus in the Black churches, just the cross

Besides, Jesus had the ability to transform his race, that's proven in the Bible
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kdolo:
King,

Do the Chinese believe in " Fake White Man Jesus" or do they believe in "Fake Mongol Jesus" ???

.....according 5o the lioness painying they might be believing in a "Fake Mongol Jesus".

....but that makes more sense than believing in the "Fake White man jesus"......which would.prove the point that Chinese are smarter than Africans....

Ya, they have their own slanty-eyed Jesus.


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So ya, they're smarter than Africans, continental and western - but then again - who isn't?
 
Posted by Child Of The KING (Member # 9422) on :
 
Ya'll bugging and trying to insight ignorance and hate for what reason??

Truth: Yeshua Christ is For Everyone!!! Not just for One People or Color or Ethincity.

The Color People Paint Yeshua Christ is Just To Identify with him Closer, All True Christians Know What Color Yeshua Is.

People Know That He is Born in the Extention of Africa that is Just A Walk from Egypt and That He was Called Out of Egypt


quote:
Matthew 2:15
He Remained there until the death of herod. This was to Fulfill what had been spoken by the Lord through the Prophet "OUT OF EGYPT I CALLED MY SON."


 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

The answer to that question requires a lesson in the original categories of Human Race colors, and in how Human Race works.

Originally there was...

The Black Race: as epitomized by Africans.

The Red Race: as epitomized by American Indians.

The Yellow Race: as epitomized by the Chinese.

The White Race: as epitomized by the Dravidian Albinos of Central Asia.




quote:
Originally posted by Clyde Winters

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The Out of Africa Theory is recent, 20th century

Mike and Clyde firmly believe, as I do, the first humans were African

However they are closet Multi-Regionalists when it comes to non-Africans
They pay lip service to believing in human evolution where different types of humans came about by transfomations, but what they really believe is that each so called "race" came about independantly
(and Africans are just the oldest of these independantly existing races)
They believe that the people who don't neatly fit into these races all came about due to race mixing rather than being in various stages of transformation from one to the other.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Child Of The KING:


People Know That He is Born in the Extention of Africa that is Just A Walk from Egypt and That He was Called Out of Egypt



I'm not saying they are right but 99.999% of Christians would say Jesus was born in the Middle East in the West Bank of Palestine and don't regard it as part of Africa
 
Posted by Child Of The KING (Member # 9422) on :
 
Stop Trying to Divide the People, Ya'll acting like clowns like that dude Warren Hart trying to setdown the Black Panthers and Native American he was an FBI Agent and RCMP SPY, he tried to insght People in Canada to start a war with the governemnt without thought, dude was an agent provacteur.

CONservatices and agents

would you trust this man CONservative Prime Minister stephen harper. 10 years of trying to destablize what the Liberals Have Built Up in canada

Also

warren hart RCMP spy tries to destablize Black and Indian Peaceful resistence Movements 1970's


quote:
Consider, for instance the Case Of warren hart, Black FBI Agent who was recruited by the RCMP in the 1970's. working undercover, hart spent four(4) years and half years infiltrating and spying on Black and First Nations
https://nowtoronto.com/news/features/would-you-trust-a-secret-police-force-to-this-man/

You From toronto, Get The magazine

EDIT:
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Child Of The KING:

Consider, for instance the Case Of warren hart, Black FBI Agent who was recruited by the RCMP

quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
they're smarter than Africans, continental and western - but then again - who isn't?

^no doubt an agent
 
Posted by Child Of The KING (Member # 9422) on :
 
Stop Trying to Divide the People, Ya'll acting like clowns like that dude warren hart trying to setdown the Black Panthers and Native American he was an FBI Agent and RCMP SPY, he tried to insght People in Canada to start a war with the governemnt without thought, dude was an agent provacteur.

CONservatices and agents

would you trust this man stephen harper, warren hart RCMP spy tries to destablize Black and Indian Peaceful resistence Movements 1970's


quote:
Consider, for instance the Case Of warren hart, Black FBI Agent who was recruited by the RCMP in the 1970's. working undercover, hart spent four(4) years and Half years infiltrating and spying on Black and First Nations groups in canada
quote:
The groups he infiltrated were focused On Peaceful political, consiousness-raising but hart repeadely urged them to resort to violence

to Heavily arm themselves(with guns he offered to provide) to blow up police stations , police cars and a embassy, and prepare for racial violence


Jean Greatbatch, now a Vancouver mediator, was at the time the Womens Commissioner of the University of Toronto student council, which was working with the campus Black Students Union to bring Amercian Actvist Angela Davis to Toronto to Speak at Convocation Hall as part of the "Womens of Distinction" series. Hart attended the planning meetings for Davis visit, posing as a black activist. But unlike all the students at the meeting, He Was always talking about the need for Guns, according to Greenbatch.

Ironically, Hart's role as an RCMP spy only came to light because he publicaly complained when the RCMP ended his contract in 1975. But the McDonald inquiry showed little interest in investigating his role as an agent provocateur


https://nowtoronto.com/news/features/would-you-trust-a-secret-police-force-to-this-man/

Ya'll Toronto Reppers get the magazine From the local areas

Learn what a Sambo!!! and An Uncle Tom(Not what you think) are, SAMBO's are the PROBLEM!!!

EDIT
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
teach, teach
 
Posted by Bonampak420 (Member # 20156) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
{I think this material warrants thought. If you read the page before, you will find this one different}.

http://realhistoryww.com./world_history/ancient/Misc/Races/The_races.htm


Children often ask, why are American Indians called "Red Men"?
They correctly point out that today's Indians look just like ordinary White people.

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Ass-aur took it upon himself to delete the photos of black native americans a month after its posting.

Winnipeg Jack University of Saskatchewan
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http://sain.scaa.sk.ca/items/uploads/r/university-of-saskatchewan-archives/8/8/888887/32-222-14_141.jpg

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Posted by Child Of The KING (Member # 9422) on :
 
People Ain't fooled by the instigators and there comments of division.

People is UnFazed, doggys

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Recognize People be Watching.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
I think this might be a better copy


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Dog Child, a North West Mounted Police scout, and his wife, The Only Handsome Woman, members of the Blackfoot Nation, Gleichen, Alberta, ca. 1890
 
Posted by Child Of The KING (Member # 9422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bonampak420:
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Ass-aur took it upon himself to delete the photos of black native americans a month after its posting.

Winnipeg Jack University of Saskatchewan
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http://sain.scaa.sk.ca/items/uploads/r/university-of-saskatchewan-archives/8/8/888887/32-222-14_141.jpg

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Thats not Ausar, the dude doing the deletion is altakruri,tukuer,ardo the dude who is a fooani who claims that there is some Hidden Gayness that African's supposdely did!!!!

The Real Ausar had issues but was a Chill dude.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Child Of The KING:
The Color People Paint Yeshua Christ is Just To Identify with him Closer, All True Christians Know What Color Yeshua Is.

If that were true then there would not be all of these permutations of Jesus.

The fact is that if there truly was a Jesus, and he truly was a Hebrew, then he would have looked similar to this Egyptian Jesus.

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But the fact is that the Albino peoples, just like the Chinese peoples will not accept a Black Jesus, so the religion encourages each racial group to create Jesus in their own image:

NOT IN "HIS" OWN IMAGE!!!

Christianity therefore ENCOURAGES RACISM because it allows it's adherents to REJECT Jesus in his OWN TRUE IMAGE!

Question:

How can Christians LOVE someone whose skin color they reject and abhor?

KING - do you see what degenerate hypocrites you people are?

Btw - The Islamist's avoided this problem by making it a sin to create images of Muhammad AND Allah.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bonampak420:


Winnipeg Jack University of Saskatchewan
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http://sain.scaa.sk.ca/items/uploads/r/university-of-saskatchewan-archives/8/8/888887/32-222-14_141.jpg


quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
I think this might be a better copy


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Dog Child, a North West Mounted Police scout, and his wife, The Only Handsome Woman, members of the Blackfoot Nation, Gleichen, Alberta, ca. 1890

yes, Winnepeg Jack is also known as Dog Child

Here he is again:

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/396457573423253995/

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Despite dark skin he is genetically more closely related to an Asian, secondly to European and at furthest distance from an African

You people are living in the 19th century, you can't go by superfical appearance and start making assumptions

You have to go by genetics and bone stucture instead of the picture book to have undertsanding of human ancestry
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by Child Of The KING:
The Color People Paint Yeshua Christ is Just To Identify with him Closer, All True Christians Know What Color Yeshua Is.

If that were true then there would not be all of these permutations of Jesus.

The fact is that if there truly was a Jesus, and he truly was a Hebrew, then he would have looked similar to this Egyptian Jesus.

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But the fact is that the Albino peoples, just like the Chinese peoples will not accept a Black Jesus, so the religion encourages each racial group to create Jesus in their own image:

NOT IN "HIS" OWN IMAGE!!!

Christianity therefore ENCOURAGES RACISM because it allows it's adherents to REJECT Jesus in his OWN TRUE IMAGE!

Question:

How can Christians LOVE someone whose skin color they reject and abhor?

KING - do you see what degenerate hypocrites you people are?

Btw - The Islamist's avoided this problem by making it a sin to create images of Muhammad AND Allah.

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I assume that everyone understands that when I say "Christianity": I mean Albino dominated Christianity, created after the usurpation of Black rule in Europe.

Before that, Christians understood that Hebrews and Jesus were Black people.


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Posted by Child Of The KING (Member # 9422) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by Child Of The KING:
The Color People Paint Yeshua Christ is Just To Identify with him Closer, All True Christians Know What Color Yeshua Is.

If that were true then there would not be all of these permutations of Jesus.

The fact is that if there truly was a Jesus, and he truly was a Hebrew, then he would have looked similar to this Egyptian Jesus.

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But the fact is that the Albino peoples, just like the Chinese peoples will not accept a Black Jesus, so the religion encourages each racial group to create Jesus in their own image:

NOT IN "HIS" OWN IMAGE!!!

Christianity therefore ENCOURAGES RACISM because it allows it's adherents to REJECT Jesus in his OWN TRUE IMAGE!

Question:

How can Christians LOVE someone whose skin color they reject and abhor?

KING - do you see what degenerate hypocrites you people are?

Btw - The Islamist's avoided this problem by making it a sin to create images of Muhammad AND Allah.

Mike, True Christians Know that Yeshua Is Black with hair Like wool, thats not even something they dwell on. It's Just a FACT.

Don't study how Doxie claims to be a Christian and then behaves the Way she is.


quote:

Philippians 3:2-3

Beware of the DOGS, beware of the evil workers, beware of the false circumcision

For we are the True Circumcision...


^^More of the Verse In the Holy Bible, Read It.

No Christian denys that Yeshua is Black, Has Wool Hair etc That don't Faze the People.
 
Posted by The Habsburg Agenda (Member # 21824) on :
 
Being Mongoloid doesn't stop people from having 'red' or 'black' complexions.

Buddha was described as having the complexion of a golden jujube fruit, that would make him 'red' he is also portrayed as 'black' as well.
 
Posted by The Habsburg Agenda (Member # 21824) on :
 
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Black religious leaders are to a large extent the pimps of white supremacy. Among black people Christianity is simply a means of promoting white supremacy by the association of Jesus with Nordic whites.

Do any of you think a white power structure would place intelligent blacks in positions of influence?
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Habsburg Agenda:
Being Mongoloid doesn't stop people from having 'red' or 'black' complexions.

Buddha was described as having the complexion of a golden jujube fruit, that would make him 'red' he is also portrayed as 'black' as well.

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who cares what the complexion is, stop being superficial
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Habsburg Agenda:


Black religious leaders are to a large extent the pimps of white supremacy, and it is mostly down to ignorance, conditioning and witting treachery to an extent. Among black people Christianity is simply a means of promoting white supremacy by the association of Jesus with Nordic whites.

KING's a Christian and he doesn't make that association
He says Jesus was an Arab
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
Revelation 1:14 KJV
His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

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Show me a black man under 33 years old or younger who has snow white hair
 
Posted by The Habsburg Agenda (Member # 21824) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by The Habsburg Agenda:
Being Mongoloid doesn't stop people from having 'red' or 'black' complexions.

Buddha was described as having the complexion of a golden jujube fruit, that would make him 'red' he is also portrayed as 'black' as well.

who cares what the complexion is, stop being superficial
Why don't you direct your question at white people, who seem hellbent on making out all the worlds religious leaders in their complexion. It is good thing Krishna was described as black, but you should ask why present day Indians prefer to portray him as blue because the word for dark/black and blue are the same.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Habsburg Agenda:
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Black religious leaders are to a large extent the pimps of white supremacy. Among black people Christianity is simply a means of promoting white supremacy by the association of Jesus with Nordic whites.

Do any of you think a white power structure would place intelligent blacks in positions of influence?

Actually I am more inclined to give U.S. Blacks a bye on the issue. Have you noticed Doxie's threatening stance when she sensed that someone might not be sympathetic to Albinos? People like her would no doubt see a rejection of a White Jesus as subversive and attack.

Africa is of course another story entirely:


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On the road from Kumasi Ghana to Techiman Ghana.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Habsburg Agenda:
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Black religious leaders are to a large extent the pimps of white supremacy. Among black people Christianity is simply a means of promoting white supremacy by the association of Jesus with Nordic whites.

Do any of you think a white power structure would place intelligent blacks in positions of influence?

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On the road from Kumasi Ghana to Techiman Ghana. [/QB][/QUOTE]


^^^ so it's even, no problem, whites worshiping black madonna and baby Jesus
Blacks worshiping white Jesus


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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
Mike, some little statue stuck on somebody's house doesn't count show us a white Jesus in a Church with a majority of Black people in the church

There are more black Jesuses in African churches than in American churches so stop faking the funk


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Ethiopia
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
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Mugabe bought it, what's the problem?
 
Posted by The Habsburg Agenda (Member # 21824) on :
 
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As you are so obsessed with colour why don't you ask the Habsburgs why they preferred this Madonna?

 - Madonna of Halle - Belgium[/url]

The loved Her so much they even wore her medallion on their hats.

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Emperor Maximilian

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African Man, Jan Mostaert - Cap Medallion


Africans should realize that the Christ they worship is not the the person the Europeans who brought the Christianity worship. Europeans worship the Mother of God, and they have left Africans to worship God. How can God be more powerful then the Mother who incubated Him, fed Him and holds Him up?

Not only that the also introduced a white Madonna whose image is meant to deny African women of an image of divinity in the eyes of their on sons, daughters and husbands. What a mind job!! I am an African myself but sometimes I just can help agreeing with Mike on such issues.

 
Posted by The Habsburg Agenda (Member # 21824) on :
 
In accord with my Habsbourgeous pretensions here are my two favourite Madonnas.
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Madonna of Loreto
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Habsburg Agenda:

Europeans worship the Mother of God, and they have left Africans to worship God. How can God be more powerful then the Mother who incubated Him, fed Him and holds Him up?


So Mary gave birth to God, the baby had no father and prior to Mary God didn't exist

yes it all makes sense now
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Habsburg Agenda:


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African Man, Jan Mostaert - Cap Medallion

I am an African myself but sometimes I just can help agreeing with Mike on such issues.[/b] [/QB]

quote:
Originally posted by The Habsburg Agenda:
[QB] In accord with my Habsbourgeous pretensions here are my two favourite Madonnas.
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They look like Europeans dipped in chocolate
rather than ethnically similar to Jan Mostaert's African man
Why is that?
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Habsburg - You have a fundamentally wrong concept of Christianity. I expected someone to correct you by now, since no one did, I have to assume that they are all Protestants. I am certainly no expert, but as a full-time researcher I have to have at least a passing knowledge of all the major religions.

Christianity has three major branches, I will explain each as best I can.

Christianity began as a movement within Judaism at a period when the Hebrews had long been under foreign influence and rule. There are indications that Christianity was intended initially, as exclusively a religion for Hebrews – Jesus himself was against the empirical power of the European conquers. It appears that it was Paul – a self appointed apostle "after" Jesus death – who forced acceptance of gentile converts. How or why the gentile converts were granted acceptance in the Jerusalem church under Jesus’ brother James is not known.

Saint Paul, the Apostle

born AD 10?, Tarsus in Cilicia [Turkey] - died 67?, Rome

Original name Saul of Tarsus, 1st-century Hebrew who, after first being a bitter enemy of Christianity, later became an important figure in its history.

Converted only a few years after the death of Jesus, he became the leading Apostle (missionary) of the new movement and played a decisive part in extending it beyond the limits of Judaism to become a worldwide religion. His surviving letters are the earliest extant Christian writings.

Paul himself claimed the title of Apostle, apparently on the ground that he had seen the Lord and received a commission directly from him. This appears to be in agreement with the condition in Acts that a newly appointed Apostle should be capable of giving eyewitness testimony to the Lord's Resurrection. According to some early Christian writers however, some were called apostles after the period covered by the New Testament.

In the first Christian generation, authority in the church lay either in the kinsmen of Jesus or in those whom he had commissioned as Apostles and missionaries. The Jerusalem church under James, the brother of Jesus, was the mother church. Paul admitted that if they had refused to grant recognition to his Gentile converts; he would have labored in vain. If there was an attempt to establish a hereditary family overlordship in the church (by James’ descendants), it did not succeed, although among the Gentile congregations, the Apostles sent by Jesus enjoyed supreme authority. As long as the Apostles lived, there existed a living authoritative voice to which appeal could be made. But once they all had died, there was an acute question: who is in charge? The earliest documents of the 3rd. and 4th. Christian generations are mainly concerned with this issue: what is the authority of the ministerial hierarchy?

The Apostolic (European) congregations, had normally been served by elders called (presbyteroi,“priests”) or overseers (episkopoi, bishops”), assisted by attendants (diakonoi, deacons”). The clergy were responsible for preaching, administering baptism and Eucharist, and for distributing aid to the poor. In each city the president or senior member of the college (assembly) of presbyters naturally had some special authority; he corresponded with other churches and, when they were ordaining a new president, would go as the representative of his own community and as a symbol of the catholicity - the universality and unity - of the church of Christ.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Constantine's Conversion

The early Christians had tolerated the emperors and regarded them as a kind of necessary evil. Constantine, as a Christian emperor, though demanded their obedience both temporally and in terms of faith. To this end, he merged the office of Emperor with the Christian faith and assumed authority over religious matters. Added to this equation was the divinity or partial divinity normally bestowed on the Emperor. Constantine's Christian conversion did not stop him from presenting himself as divine both in the theater of imperial power and on coinages. There's no reason to believe that Constantine did not in fact believe that he was divine, even in spite of his Christianity.

This was a new and unsolvable problem in Christianity. As long as the Emperor was a pagan, there was no question of the relationship between the church and the state. The church did its thing and the state did its sinful thing. The presence of Christian imperial authority, however, led to severe conflicts and disruption. The question of the relationship between the church and a Christian government has yet to be resolved.

Constantine believed that the Church and the State should be as close as possible. From 312-320 A.D, Constantine was tolerant of paganism, keeping pagan gods on coins and retaining his pagan high priest title "Pontifex Maximus" (the Roman high priest whose main job was to maintain the - pax deorum, the 'peace with the gods') in order to maintain popularity with his subjects.

Possibly indicating that he never understood the theology of Christianity. From 320-330 A.D, he began to attack paganism through the government, but in many cases persuaded people to follow the laws by combining pagan worship with Christianity. He made December 25th - the birthday of the pagan “Unconquered Sun god” - the official holiday it is now - the birthday of Jesus. It is likely that he also instituted celebrating Easter and Lent based on pagan holidays.

The Arian Controversy, the Council of Nicaea, and its Aftermath


Constantine had other problems as well. In Constantine's view, the Christian church could be a powerful tool for unifying the Empire socially and politically. If the church could become unified, that would provide a bulwark against the forces pulling the empire apart. The problem though, was there was no established or unifying doctrine. In fact, there were as many forms of Christianity as there were communities of Christians. The church was severely divided over fundamental questions; in particular, the speculations of the eastern churches on the nature of divinity were considered grossly heretical by the Latin (Roman) churches. What would finally call Constantine into action to unify the church was the schism between the Arians and the Athanasians.

The major schism between the churches in the Greek-speaking east and the churches in the West was founded on the eastern insistence in engaging in philosophical speculation on questions of doctrine; the western churches by contrast, largely focused on administrative rather than doctrinal problems. If the church was going to be unified however, these two separate approaches had to be unified. The flash point came with the dispute over Arianism (Bishop Arius), which the western churches regarded as outright heresy.

The Greek bishop Arius, like many of his eastern counterparts, was primarily interested in defining the nature of the Trinity — God, Christ, and the Holy Ghost — and insisted in his theology that there was an absolute division between God and Christ. God the Father, he argued, was hierarchically differentiable from God the Son. The opposite position, called Athanasianism, after the bishop Athanasius who advocated it, was that God the Father and God the Son were one and the same thing. Both the western church and the bishop of Constantinople came down on the side of Athanasianism—the Greek Church subsequently dug in its heels on the matter.

Here is where you misunderstand: they finally agree that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost were one and the same (The Holy Trinity). The Catholic Church allows worshipers to pray to the Mother and Saints as intermediaries to the Holy Trinity.


Arius teachings were condemned, and Arius excommunicated in 318 A.D, by a council convened by Alexander, the bishop of Alexandria (Egypt). But that did not by any means close the matter. Ossius (or Hosius) of Cordova, Constantine's trusted spiritual advisor, failed on his mission to bring about reconciliation.

Constantine then summoned what has become known as the First Ecumenical Council of the church. The opening session was held on 20 May 325 A.D, in the great hall of the palace at Nicaea, Constantine himself presiding and giving the opening speech. The council formulated a creed, which although it was revised at the Council of Constantinople in 381-82 A.D, has become known as the Nicene Creed. It affirms the homoousion, i.e. the doctrine of consubstantiality. A major role at this council was played by Athanasius, Bishop Alexander's deacon, secretary, and ultimately his successor.

Constantine accomplished more however, for the Nicene council also ratified his own power, and Christianity would begin the long struggle, lasting to this day, between the anti-political ideas of Jesus of Nazareth and the Christianity that is compromised to allow for human authority and power.

If Constantine had hoped that the council would settle the issue forever, he must have been bitterly disappointed. The disputes continued, and Constantine himself vacillated. Eusebius of Nicomedia, a supporter of Arius, who was exiled in 325 A.D, was recalled in 327 A.D, and soon became the emperor's chief spiritual advisor. In 335 A.D. Athanasius, now bishop of Alexandria and unbending in his opposition to some of Constantine's policies, was sent into exile at far-away Trier.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
What is now called the "Eastern Orthodox Church" is the oldest and most original of the Christian Churches. It still has it's saints depicted with Black skin.

It separated from the Western Church in Rome at about 1054.

Europe's Albinos rebelled against Black rule and the Catholic Church in the 1500s: culminating in the "Thirty Years Wars" which for all practical purposes ended Black rule in Europe and killed off huge numbers of Europe's Blacks.

The Churches that came out of that rebellion are called the Protestant (Protest) Churches.


They are:


Adventism
Anabaptism
Anglicanism
Baptist churches
Calvinism (Reformed tradition)
Lutheranism
Methodism
Pentecostalism
Other Protestant branches

Transdenominational movements

Evangelicalism
Charismatic Movement
Neo-charismatic churches
 
Posted by The Habsburg Agenda (Member # 21824) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by The Habsburg Agenda:

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African Man, Jan Mostaert - Cap Medallion

I am an African myself but sometimes I just can help agreeing with Mike on such issues.[/b]

quote:
Originally posted by The Habsburg Agenda:
In accord with my Habsbourgeous pretensions here are my two favourite Madonnas.
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Virgin of Loreto

They look like Europeans dipped in chocolate
rather than ethnically similar to Jan Mostaert's African man
Why is that?

I see you are indulging in your habit of trolling with oversized images.

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Iman and Ubah

I guess these women are Europeans dipped in chocolate.

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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
What is now called the "Eastern Orthodox Church" is the oldest and most original of the Christian Churches. It still has it's saints depicted with Black skin.

It separated from the Western Church in Rome at about 1054.

Europe's Albinos rebelled against Black rule and the Catholic Church in the 1500s: culminating in the "Thirty Years Wars" which for all practical purposes ended Black rule in Europe and killed off huge numbers of Europe's Blacks.

The Churches that came out of that rebellion are called the Protestant (Protest) Churches.


They are:


Adventism
Anabaptism
Anglicanism
Baptist churches
Calvinism (Reformed tradition)
Lutheranism
Methodism
Pentecostalism
Other Protestant branches

Transdenominational movements

Evangelicalism
Charismatic Movement
Neo-charismatic churches

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KING - You are unusually fanatical, Which church are you a member of?
 
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
 
I'll bet he's an Evangelist.
He sounds a lot like Manny Pacquiao.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
I find it interesting that KING does not answer. Usually, on matters of religion, you can't shut him up. Yet here he is, mute on the simple question of what denomination he is a member of. KING, what's up?
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
I find it interesting that KING does not answer. Usually, on matters of religion, you can't shut him up. Yet here he is, mute on the simple question of what denomination he is a member of. KING, what's up?

1 Peter 4:16

But if anyone suffers as a Christian, he is not to be ashamed, but is to glorify God in this name.
 
Posted by Child Of The KING (Member # 9422) on :
 
Personal Relationship With Yeshua Christ.

We are all part of the Body of Christ.

Church, We are One regardless of the different names for Us.

You Should Realize that.

EDIT:
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^KING - So does that mean that you are a Unitarian or something like that?

And why the mystery?
 
Posted by kdolo (Member # 21830) on :
 
Hahahahahaha
 


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