In the thread "The Sibyls: The First Prophetess of Mami Wata".
Clyde posted this: "Homer, described Hercules as follows: "Black he stood as night his bow uncased, his arrow string for flight". Without citing the book source. In tracking that down, I ran across some books, which because of WHO they identify as Black, demonstrate just how recent this business of writing Blacks out of history really is.
The Book I will be using is called Anacalypsis by Godfrey Higgins; published in 1878
Godfrey Higgins (January 30, 1772 in Owston, Yorkshire — August 9, 1833 in Cambridge) was an English magistrate and landowner, a prominent advocate for social reform, historian, and antiquarian. He is now best known for his writings on ancient myths, especially his posthumously published book Anacalypsis, in which he asserts a commonality among various religious myths, which he traces back to the supposed lost religion of Atlantis. He has been called a "political radical, reforming county magistrate and idiosyncratic historian of religions".
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INTRODUCTION TO SOME OF THE BLACK PEOPLE MENTIONED IN THE BOOK.
Homer:
Homer is best known as the author of the "Iliad" and the "Odyssey". He was believed by the ancient Greeks to have been the first and greatest of the epic poets. Author of the first known literature of Europe, he is central to the Western canon. When he lived, as well as whether he lived at all, is unknown. Herodotus estimates that Homer lived no more than 400 years before his own time, which would place him at around 850 BCE or later. Pseudo-Herodotus estimates that he was born 622 years before Xerxes I placed a pontoon bridge over the Hellespont in 480 BCE, which would place him at 1102 BCE, 168 years after the fall of Troy in 1270 BCE. These two end points are 252 years apart, representative of the differences in dates given by the other sources. The importance of Homer to the ancient Greeks is described in Plato's "Republic", which portrays him as the protos didaskalos, "first teacher", of the tragedians, the hegemon paideias, "leader of Greek culture", and the ten Hellada pepaideukon, "teacher of [all] Greece". Homer's works, which are about fifty percent speeches, provided models in persuasive speaking and writing that were emulated throughout the ancient and medieval Greek worlds. Fragments of Homer account for nearly half of all identifiable Greek literary papyrus finds in Egypt.
The Iliad
The Iliad in Classical Attic; sometimes referred to as the Song of Ilion or Song of Ilium) is an ancient Greek epic poem in dactylic hexameter, traditionally attributed to Homer. Set during the Trojan War, the ten-year siege of the city of Troy (Ilium) by a coalition of Greek states, it tells of the battles and events during the weeks of a quarrel between King Agamemnon and the warrior Achilles.
Although the story covers only a few weeks in the final year of the war, the Iliad mentions or alludes to many of the Greek legends about the siege; the earlier events, such as the gathering of warriors for the siege, the cause of the war, and related concerns tend to appear near the beginning. Then the epic narrative takes up events prophesied for the future, such as Achilles' looming death and the sack of Troy, prefigured and alluded to more and more vividly, so that when it reaches an end, the poem has told a more or less complete tale of the Trojan War.
The Iliad is paired with something of a sequel, the Odyssey, also attributed to Homer. Along with the Odyssey, the Iliad is among the oldest extant works of Western literature, and its written version is usually dated to around the eighth century BC. Recent statistical modelling based on language evolution gives a date of 760–710 BC. In the modern vulgate (the standard accepted version), the Iliad contains 15,693 lines; it is written in Homeric Greek, a literary amalgam of Ionic Greek and other dialects.
The Odyssey
The Odyssey is one of two major ancient Greek epic poems attributed to Homer. It is, in part, a sequel to the Iliad, the other work ascribed to Homer. The poem is fundamental to the modern Western canon, and is the second oldest extant work of Western literature, the Iliad being the oldest. Scholars believe it was composed near the end of the 8th century BC, somewhere in Ionia, the Greek coastal region of Anatolia. The poem mainly focuses on the Greek hero Odysseus (known as Ulysses in Roman myths) and his journey home after the fall of Troy. It takes Odysseus ten years to reach Ithaca after the ten-year Trojan War. In his absence, it is assumed he has died, and his wife Penelope and son Telemachus must deal with a group of unruly suitors, the Mnesteres (Greek: Μνηστῆρες) or Proci, who compete for Penelope's hand in marriage.
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INTRODUCTION TO SOME OF THE BLACK PEOPLE MENTIONED IN THE BOOK.
The Ionians
The Ionians were one of the four major tribes that the Greeks considered themselves divided into, during the ancient period; alongside Dorians, Aeolians and Achaeans. The Ionian dialect was one of the three major linguistic divisions of the Hellenic world, together with the Dorian and Aeolian dialects. When referring to populations, "Ionian" defines several groups in Classical Greece. In the narrowest sense, it referred to the region of Ionia in Asia Minor. In a broader sense, it could be used to describe all speakers of the Ionic dialect, which in addition to those in Ionia proper also included the populations of Euboea, the Cyclades and many colonies founded by Ionian colonists. Finally, in the broadest sense, it could be used to describe all those who spoke languages of the East Greek group, which included Attic.
The Foundation myth which was current in the Classical period suggested that the Ionians were named after Ion, son of Xuthus, who lived in the north Peloponnesian region of Aegilaus. When the Dorians invaded the Peloponnese and expelled the Achaeans from the Argolid and Lacedaemonia, the Achaeans moved into Aegilaus (henceforth known as Achaea) and the Ionians were in turn expelled. The Ionians moved to Attica and mingled with the local population. Later, many people emigrated to the coast of Asia Minor founding the historical region of Ionia.
Unlike the austere and militaristic Dorians, the Ionians are renowned for their love of philosophy, art, democracy, and pleasure - Ionian traits that were most famously expressed by the Athenians.
The Pelasgians
The name was used by some ancient Greek writers to refer to populations that were either the ancestors of the Greeks or preceded the Greeks in Greece, "a hold-all term for any ancient, primitive and presumably indigenous people in the Greek world". In general, "Pelasgian" has come to mean more broadly all the indigenous inhabitants of the Aegean Sea region and their cultures before the advent of the Greek language.
During the classical period, enclaves under that name survived in several locations of mainland Greece, Crete, and other regions of the Aegean. Populations identified as "Pelasgian" spoke a language or languages that at the time Greeks identified as "barbaric", even though some ancient writers described the Pelasgians as Greeks. A tradition also survived that large parts of Greece had once been Pelasgian before being Hellenized. These parts generally fell within the ethnic domain that, by the 5th century BC, was attributed to those speakers of ancient Greek who were identified as Ionians.
The Minyans
Greeks did not always clearly distinguish the Minyans from the Pelasgian cultures that had preceded them. Greek mythographers gave the Minyans an eponymous founder, Minyas, perhaps as legendary as Pelasgus (the founding father of the Pelasgians), which was a broader category of pre-Greek Aegean peoples. These Minyans were associated with Boeotian Orchomenus, as when Pausanias relates that "Teos used to be inhabited by Minyans of Orchomenus, who came to it with Athamas" and may have represented a ruling dynasty or a tribe later located in Boeotia.
Herodotus asserts several times that Pelasgians dwelt in the distant past with the Athenians in Attica, and that those Pelasgians driven from Attica in turn drove the Minyans out of Lemnos. The same historian also states that Minyans from Amyklai settled on the island of Thera in 800 BC.
Heracles, the hero whose exploits always celebrate the new Olympian order over the old traditions, came to Thebes, one of the ancient Mycenaean cities of Greece, and found that the Greeks were paying tribute of 100 cattle (a hecatomb) each year to Erginus, king of the Minyans. Heracles attacked a group of emissaries from the Minyans, and cut off their ears, noses and hands. He then tied them around their necks and told them to take those for tribute to Erginus. Erginus made war on Thebes, but Heracles defeated the Minyans with his fellow Thebans after arming them with weapons that had been dedicated in temples. Erginus was killed and the Minyans were forced to pay double the previous tribute to the Thebans. Heracles was also credited with the burning of the palace at Orchomenus: "Then appearing unawares before the city of the Orchomenians and slipping in at their gates he burned the palace of the Minyans and razed the city to the ground."
The Argonauts were sometimes referred to as "Minyans" because Jason's mother came from that line, and several of his cousins joined in the adventure.
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Anacalypsis
Anacalypsis (full title: Anacalypsis: An Attempt to Draw Aside the Veil of the Saitic Isis or an Inquiry into the Origin of Languages, Nations and Religions) is a lengthy two-volume treatise written by religious historian Godfrey Higgins, and published after his death in 1836. The book was published in two quarto volumes numbering 1,436 pages, and contains meticulous references to hundreds of references. Initially printed as a limited edition of 200 copies, it was partially reprinted in 1878, and completely reprinted in a limited edition of 350 copies in 1927. In 1965, University Books, Inc. published 500 sets for the United States and 500 sets for the British Commonwealth with Publisher's Note and a Postface.
The work is the product of more than twenty years of research, during which Higgins tried to uncover "a most ancient and universal religion from which all later creeds and doctrines sprang". It includes several maps and lithographic plates of Druidical Monuments. The book itself details many of Higgins' beliefs and observations about the development of religion. Among these was his theory that a secret religious order, which he labeled "Pandeism" (from Pans- or Pandu- referring to a family of Gods, appending with -ism), had continued from ancient times to the present day, stretching at least from Greece to India, and possibly having once covered the entire world:
"All this seems to confirm the very close connexion which there must have been in some former time, between Siam, Afghanistan, Western Syria, and Ireland. Indeed I cannot doubt that there has been really one grand empire, or one Universal, one Pandćan, or one Catholic religion, with one language, which has extended over the whole of the world; uniting or governing at the same time..."
Among the many unusual theories presented in this book is that both the Celtic Druids and the Jews originated in India – and that the name of the Biblical Abraham is really a variation of the word Brahma, created by shifting the last letter to the beginning: Abrahma.
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Cristna
Cristna/Krishna is a Hindu deity, worshipped across many traditions of Hinduism in a variety of different perspectives. Krishna is recognized as the complete and eighth avatar of the God Vishnu or as the Supreme God in own right. Krishna is one of the most widely revered and popular of all Hindu deities.
Krishna known via many names such as Kishan,Makhanchor, Kanha. Krishna is often described and portrayed as an infant eating butter, a young boy playing a flute as in the Bhagavata Purana, a young man along with Radha or as an elder giving direction and guidance as in the Bhagavad Gita. The stories of Krishna appear across a broad spectrum of Hindu philosophical and theological traditions. They portray him in various perspectives: a god-child, a prankster, a model lover, a divine hero, and the Supreme Being. The principal scriptures discussing Krishna's story are the Mahabharata, the Harivamsa, the Bhagavata Purana, and the Vishnu Purana.
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Mohamedans = Muhammad = Muslims
Mathura is a city in the North Indian state of Uttar Pradesh. It is located approximately 50 kilometres (31 mi) north of Agra, and 145 kilometres (90 mi) south-east of Delhi; about 11 kilometres (6.8 mi) from the town of Vrindavan, and 22 kilometres (14 mi) from Govardhan. It is the administrative centre of Mathura District of Uttar Pradesh. During the ancient period, Mathura was an economic hub, located at the junction of important caravan routes.
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Break for Nimrod... Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Nimrod refers to Homers "GENUINE VERSES".
Needless to say, once the Albinos get their hands on the ancient documents, the resulting translation is likely to be devoid of any references to Black people, certainly no positive references to Black people.
The proof is in simply interrogating the many versions of the Greek works mentioned here.
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Anacalypsis Continued....
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. The Seleucid Empire was a Hellenistic state ruled by the Seleucid dynasty, which existed from 312 BC to 63 BC; it was founded by Seleucus I Nicator following the division of the Macedonian empire created by Alexander the Great. Seleucus received Babylonia and, from there, expanded his dominions to include much of Alexander's near eastern territories. At the height of its power, it included central Anatolia, Persia, the Levant, Mesopotamia, and what is now Kuwait, Afghanistan, and parts of Pakistan and Turkmenistan.
The Seleucid Empire was a major center of Hellenistic culture that maintained the preeminence of Greek customs where a Greek political elite dominated, mostly in the urban areas. The Greek population of the cities who formed the dominant elite were reinforced by immigration from Greece. Seleucid expansion into Anatolia and Greece was abruptly halted after decisive defeats at the hands of the Roman army.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: In the thread "The Sibyls: The First Prophetess of Mami Wata".
Clyde posted this: "Homer, described Hercules as follows: "Black he stood as night his bow uncased, his arrow string for flight". Without citing the book source. In tracking that down, I ran across some books, which because of WHO they identify as Black, demonstrate just how recent this business of writing Blacks out of history really is.
The Book I will be using is called Anacalypsis by Godfrey Higgins; published in 1878
Godfrey Higgins (January 30, 1772 in Owston, Yorkshire — August 9, 1833 in Cambridge) was an English magistrate and landowner, a prominent advocate for social reform, historian, and antiquarian. He is now best known for his writings on ancient myths, especially his posthumously published book Anacalypsis, in which he asserts a commonality among various religious myths, which he traces back to the supposed lost religion of Atlantis. He has been called a "political radical, reforming county magistrate and idiosyncratic historian of religions".
It really is annoying when people like you bring such nonsense to the forum. All it does is encourage those of limited intelligence to give up trying to learn something, and instead backslide into believing the bullsh1t spawned by soapbox historians.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
yeah right #83
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Lioness you talk sh*t just to talk sh*t.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
wrong, you don't know the background. Mike dissed mena for posting Mama Wata, questioning her scholarship. Then he goes and makes this thread on the crackpot Godfrey Higgins. I can't sit back and witness that hypocrisy
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by mistasoul510: Lioness you talk sh*t just to talk sh*t.
mistasoul510 - Do not take lioness as a simple troll, she/he is not.
This degenerate creature was placed here to misinform and cause confusion. The point of the repostings is to make it hard to follow the thread. Every time you post to lioness, you further disrupt the thread. It's best to simply ignore the creature.
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. Etruria - The Etruscans
Etruria (usually referred to in Greek and Latin source texts as Tyrrhenia) was a region of Central Italy, located in an area that covered part of what are now Tuscany, Lazio, and Umbria. The ancient people of Etruria are labelled Etruscans, and their complex culture was centered on numerous city-states that rose during the Villanovan period in the ninth century BC and were very powerful during the Orientalizing Archaic periods. The Etruscans were a dominant culture in Italy by 650 BC, surpassing other ancient Italic peoples such as the Ligures, and their influence may be seen beyond Etruria's confines in the Po River Valley and Latium, as well as in Campania and through their contact with the Greek colonies in Southern Italy (including Sicily). Indeed, at some Etruscan tombs, such as those of the Tumulus di Montefortini at Comeana (see Carmignano) in Tuscany, physical evidence of trade has been found in the form of grave goods—fine faience ware cups are particularly notable examples. Such trade occurred either directly with Egypt, or through intermediaries such as Greek or Etruscan sailors.
Rome, buffered from Etruria by the Silva Ciminia, the Ciminian Forest, was influenced strongly by the Etruscans, with a series of Etruscan kings ruling at Rome until 509 BC when the last Etruscan king Lucius Tarquinius Superbus was removed from power and the Roman Republic was established. The Etruscans are credited with influencing Rome's architecture and ritual practice; it was under the Etruscan kings that important structures such as the Capitolium, Cloaca Maxima, and Via Sacra were realized. The Etruscan civilization was responsible for much of the Greek culture imported into early Republican Rome, including the twelve Olympian gods, the growing of olives and grapes, the Latin alphabet (adapted from the Greek alphabet), and architecture like the arch, sewerage and drainage systems.
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The Chaldeans
Late Mesopotamian history: Sumerians {now called Chaldeans}, who inhabited the coastal area of Sumer near the Persian Gulf, had never been entirely pacified by the Assyrians. Marduk-apla-iddina II (the biblical Merodach-Baladan - "Marduk has given me an Heir") (reigned 722 B.C. – 710 B.C.)( 703 B.C. – 702 B.C.) was a Chaldean prince who usurped the Babylonian throne in 721 B.C. He maintained Babylonian independence in the face of Assyrian military supremacy for more than a decade. Sargon II suppressed the allies of Marduk-apla-iddina II in Aram and Israel, and eventually drove him from Babylon in 710 B.C. After the death of Sargon II, Marduk-apla-iddina II returned from Elam and ignited all the Arameans in Babylon into rebellion. He was able to enter Babylon and be declared king again. Nine months later he was defeated near Kish, but escaped to Elam. He died in exile a couple of years later.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
This book Anacalypsis written about 1830ish, is particularly important for Black people, not only because it confirms that the Albinos knew, and tried to cover-up, that the original people, civilizations, and everything, was Black.
But that it was about this time when they started to wonder where THEY fit in.
We see the writer musing about all manner of combinations and occurrences which would explain the existence of White people - or the Pink and White as he and Benjamen Franklin like to call themselves. (Yet when we call them "Pink" they get mad).
And true to form, the only solution they can come up with is that their delicacy and limited range on the Earth is proof of their HIGHER evolution. And of course the strong Blacks must be the earlier and primitive form of human.
He,he,he: Nature works backwards - it evolves to the weakest and most defective - not to the best and the strongest.
Ha,ha,ha,ha:
Funny how the simplest and most obvious explanation for White People - ALBINISM - is never mentioned.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by mistasoul510: Lioness you talk sh*t just to talk sh*t.
mistasoul510 - Do not take lioness as a simple troll, she/he is not.
This degenerate creature was placed here to misinform and cause confusion. The point of the repostings is to make it hard to follow the thread. Every time you post to lioness, you further disrupt the thread. It's best to simply ignore the creature.
Let me translate this ^^ :
"don't question anything in my thread because I'm trying to advertise my website. This is not a discussion forum. It's a place where I spoon feed you"
Mike is promoting this 19th century "albino" crackpot Godfrey Higgins and when mena posted a black historian Mama What here is what Mike said
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike111: mena7 - It really is annoying when people like you bring such nonsense to the forum. All it does is encourage those of limited intelligent to give up trying to learn something, and instead backsliding into believing the bullsh1t spawned by soapbox historians.
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He,he,he,he:
You're not fooling anyone lioness, this one really stings ya.
Here we have a White man saying that what we have been teaching is true.
Why even Africans like lamin will have no choice but to accept it - after all, a WHITE MAN said it's so!
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
The Book I will be using is called Anacalypsis by Godfrey Higgins; published in 1878
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
Here we have a White man saying that what we have been teaching is true.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: But that it was about this time when they started to wonder where THEY fit in.
We see the writer musing about all manner of combinations and occurrences which would explain the existence of White people - or the Pink and White as he and Benjamen Franklin like to call themselves. (Yet when we call them "Pink" they get mad).
And true to form, the only solution they can come up with is that their delicacy and limited range on the Earth is proof of their HIGHER evolution. And of course the strong Blacks must be the earlier and primitive form of human.
He,he,he: Nature works backwards - it evolves to the weakest and most defective - not to the best and the strongest.
Ha,ha,ha,ha:
Funny how the simplest and most obvious explanation for White People - ALBINISM - is never mentioned.
. Stupid bitch, if you can't read, or can't understand what you read, shouldn't you remove yourself from the forum?
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Mike111 Nice information about the Black Gods Hercules, Krishna, Buddha and Jesus.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Mike is promoting this 19th century "albino" crackpot Godfrey Higgins
He,he,he,he:
Careful lioness, your dirty White panties are showing.
Lets ask a REAL White girl:
Doxie - is Higgins a "Crackpot" Albino, and a traitor to the race?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
The main story here is that the lies, obfuscations, evidence hiding and destruction's, that I have said were committed by the Albinos in order to hide Black history and write Blacks out of history, has been confirmed by this book "Anacalypsis" by Godfrey Higgins.
Not surprisingly, now that I have seized upon the book, and later, others will as well: the Albinos will now have no choice but to discredit Godfrey Higgins, in an effort to maintain their bogus history. As you can see, lioness has already started the process. Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
But the fact is that Godfrey Higgins was a well though-of, and well respected Historian.
Higgins was a Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries: The Society of Antiquaries of London (SAL) is a learned society "charged by its Royal Charter of 1751 with 'the encouragement, advancement and furtherance of the study and knowledge of the antiquities and history of this and other countries'.
Higgins' main writings took part in the syncretist thinking of the day, which attempted to link Biblical narratives to evidence emerging about other religious traditions. Higgins discussed, and argued with, other authors in this tradition such as Jacob Bryant, Roger O'Connor and William Jones.
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Godfrey Higgins statements regarding Blacks being the beginning of ALL civilizations, religions, sciences, etc, are simply statements of fact prompted by the evidences of ancient Writings and Artifacts.
His statements regarding the commonality of all the major religions, was a logic gained after twenty years of research, but which many here at ES have discussed many times over the years.
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Godfrey Higgins correctly concluded that there was something familiar between the Christian Jesus being identified with a Lamb, and called a Shepherd:
This fresco of the Good Shepherd was found on the ceiling of the Vault of Lucina in the Catacomb of Callixtus in Rome. The construction of the vault itself has been dated to the second half of the 2nd century, but the use of the red and green lines to divide the space (similar to the chambers under San Sebastiano) has suggested the first half or middle of the 3rd century for this fresco.
The image of Jesus as the Good Shepherd was an especially popular motif in the early Christian centuries. It was based on several biblical passages, including the 23rd Psalm and sayings of Jesus, and is also an adaptation of a popular pagan image.
This fresco of the Good Shepherd was found on the ceiling of the Vault of Lucina in the Catacomb of Callixtus in Rome. The construction of the vault itself has been dated to the second half of the 2nd century, but the use of the red and green lines to divide the space (similar to the chambers under San Sebastiano) has suggested the first half or middle of the 3rd century for this fresco.
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And the Black religions from thousand of years earlier. Posted by CelticWarrioress (Member # 19701) on :
Mike,
Yes ohh Whitey hater who can't make even one post without using racist epithets, this man is a crack pot, Anti-White and yes a traitor to his people,albino I'm not sure he may have been lol. Mike you hypocrite that is what YOU are trying to do. YOU are trying to hide White history, YOU are trying to write Whites out of history, Yo do it because you hate Whites and hat the thought of White children having a future & wish to destroy them.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Okay folks, there you have it straight from Doxie, Higgins may not have been truly a White man!
lamin - what do YOU say?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Godfrey Higgins statements regarding the commonality of all the major religions, was a logic gained after twenty years of research, but which many here at ES have discussed many times over the years.
Godfrey Higgins correctly concluded that there was something familiar between the Christian Jesus being identified with a Lamb, and called a Shepherd:
And the Black religions from thousand of years earlier.
. For the uninitiated:
The Hebrews were an Amorite tribe of rabble and criminals, who started migrating south from their home in Anatolia circa 2,000 B.C.
They split into two groups:
The first group established themselves in the Eastern Hills of Canaan, from where they attacked and harassed the Canaanites, which at this time included the Phoenicians.
The second group migrated into Sumer where they were finally able to establish the dynasty of Hammurabi.
It was after the Sumerians regained control of their country and kicked out the Amorites of Hammurabi, that Abraham and his Amorite family were forced to leave Sumer. But they did not leave empty-handed, the carried with them the religion they had learned in Sumer.
Upon leaving Sumer, they returned home to Anatolia. And after spending some years back home in Anatolia, they moved on to Canaan.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
It is from Sumerian religion that the concept of "The Lord" as "Good Shepherd" is apparently taken. Sumerian Prayers, Hymns, Poems, and Praise writings are replete with references to the "Good Shepherd".
The lament for Sumer and Urim:
so as to obliterate the divine powers of Sumer, to change its preordained plans, to alienate the divine powers of the reign of kingship of Urim, to humiliate the princely son in his house E-kic-nu-jal, to break up the unity of the people of Nanna, numerous as ewes; to change the food offerings of Urim, the shrine of magnificent food offerings; that its people should no longer dwell in their quarters, that they should be given over to live in an inimical place; that Cimacki and Elam, the enemy, should dwell in their place; that its shepherd, in his own palace, should be captured by the enemy, that Ibbi-Suen should be taken to the land Elam in fetters, that from Mount Zabu on the edge of the sea to the borders of Ancan, like a swallow that has flown from its house, he should never return to his city;
The cursing of Agade:
Its king, the shepherd Naram-Suen, rose as the daylight on the holy throne of Agade. Its city wall , like a mountain, (1 ms. has instead: , a great mountain,) reached the heavens.
The building of Ning̃irsu's temple (Gudea, cylinders A and B)
The mighty steward of Nanše, the accomplished shepherd of Ning̃irsu, is wise, and able too to realise things; the man in charge of building the house, Gudea the ruler of Lagaš, was to make presents for the house.
The Sargon legend
its king, shepherd Ur- Zababa, rose like Utu over the house of Kic. An and Enlil, however, authoritatively (?) decided (?) by their holy command to alter his term of reigning and to remove the prosperity of the palace.
The Lugalbanda Epic
His lady, Inana the pure, sat there on her cushion. He bowed and prostrated himself on the ground. With (1 ms. adds joyful) eyes Inana looked at Lugalbanda the pure as she would look at the shepherd Ama-ucumgal-ana .
Enmerkar and the lord of Aratta
My champion is embraced by Enlil. I shall send him such a champion. My champion will compete against his champion, and let the more able one prevail!" Say this to him. Second, speak to him and say: "Let him immediately pass from subterfuge ....... In his city, let them go before him like sheep. Let him, like their shepherd, follow behind them.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
Godfrey Higgins correctly concluded that there was something familiar between the Christian Jesus being identified with a Lamb, and called a Shepherd:
Mike stop stating the obvious, everybody in the word knows that
John 10;11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
This fresco of the Good Shepherd was found on the ceiling of the Vault of Lucina in the Catacomb of Callixtus in Rome. The construction of the vault itself has been dated to the second half of the 2nd century, but the use of the red and green lines to divide the space (similar to the chambers under San Sebastiano) has suggested the first half or middle of the 3rd century for this fresco.
And the Black religions from thousand of years earlier.
show us the sheperd in religions from thousand of years earlier. Otherwise be quiet
^ Here is says:
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Heri in Sanscrit means shepard as well as savior. Christna is called Heri. --Godfrey Higgins
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Mike, do you check anything or do you just mindlessly accept it if you like it?
Heri in Sanscrit means shepard as well as savior. Christna is called Heri. --Godfrey Higgins
Show us any reference that says Heri or Hari means shepard or savior in sanscrit. Apparently "hare" has many meanings. But where the hell is shepard or savior?
"but Godfrey Higgins is albino isn't that authority enough ?" "It's printed in a book, it must be true"
^^^ no Mike, show us a modern day credible reference or the claim has zero credibility
By the way, Krishna is a mythological character
Krishna battling the horse demon keshi, 5th century Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Okay lioness, time for you and you nonsense to go bye, bye.
Posted by CelticWarrioress (Member # 19701) on :
Mike,
Where the hell did I say that?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Mike,
Where the hell did I say that?
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Mike,
Yes ohh Whitey hater who can't make even one post without using racist epithets, this man is a crack pot, Anti-White and yes a traitor to his people, albino I'm not sure he may have been lol.
That's what it sounds like to me.
So are you saying that he was indeed White?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Doxie, I take your reticence to mean that it has dawned on you that if you acknowledge Higgins as a White man, it will leave lamin no choice but to believe him, and by corollary ME!
Were the Africans to realize that they were duped again - well it could be serious.
Have you heard of the Mau Mau uprising?
BTW - If there is anyone who can spot another Albino it's you!
What's your feeling on lamin:
Is he a White Mole?
Or is he just a really stupid African?
Posted by DD'eDeN (Member # 21966) on :
Please note the cup held in the hand of Hercules.
Herakles floated across a sea in a qufa/cup/coracle, still used on the Euphrates.
Mike111 what is your connection to Rhodesia/Zimbabwe? Grandparents migrated to America from there?
Heri/hare/hari/*Xya.tly/tengeri(Mongol)/terangi(Malay:clear sky) open sky, thus shepherds/sepharim(H) vs Ashkenazi(H) ashy-ary-alpi-albion (burnt people = ashen)
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Mike always has to try to bait people so his thread gets replies, always trying to call out Doxies or Lamin to get attention
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
It is just too difficult to do a serious thread with lioness constantly trying to derail the effort.
Mike, yes ohh White people hating one Higgins was White a self hating,Anti-White,uncle Tom White (the kind of White you love) but White none the less. I don't know Lamin, but if he/she says they are Black then I believe them until proven otherwise. There you go posting your biased,Black racist, Black supremacist site again. When you gonna learn Mike, you site is not a reliable source as it is biased,lies,& anti-White.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
as we can see Mike is just trying to use Egyptsearch to promote his website
Posted by Mindovermatter (Member # 22317) on :
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Mike,
Yes ohh Whitey hater who can't make even one post without using racist epithets, this man is a crack pot, Anti-White and yes a traitor to his people,albino I'm not sure he may have been lol. Mike you hypocrite that is what YOU are trying to do. YOU are trying to hide White history, YOU are trying to write Whites out of history, Yo do it because you hate Whites and hat the thought of White children having a future & wish to destroy them.
Fucking idiot, when the **** were the Ancient Greeks or Sumerians ever white, except in the world of delusional whites/albino's? Fucking dumbass
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter:
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Mike,
Yes ohh Whitey hater who can't make even one post without using racist epithets, this man is a crack pot, Anti-White and yes a traitor to his people,albino I'm not sure he may have been lol. Mike you hypocrite that is what YOU are trying to do. YOU are trying to hide White history, YOU are trying to write Whites out of history, Yo do it because you hate Whites and hat the thought of White children having a future & wish to destroy them.
Fucking idiot, when the **** were the Ancient Greeks or Sumerians ever white, except in the world of delusional whites/albino's? Fucking dumbass
The Victorious Youth (c. 310 BCE), Greek bronze
Can't tell the skin tone here
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^ you be the judge
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Okay, I will judge.
For one: the Central Asian Albinos arrived in southern Europe circa 1,200 B.C. so this statue does not speak to the original Greeks.
Secondly: The statue looks ARTIFICIALLY AGED!
It shows no real corrosion and pitting like THESE:
. Like everything else associated with lioness - the statue appears to be a big fat FAKE!!!! Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Okay, I will judge.
For one: the Central Asian Albinos arrived in southern Europe circa 1,200 B.C. so this statue does not speak to the original Greeks.
Secondly: The statue looks ARTIFICIALLY AGED!
It shows no real corrosion and pitting like THESE:
. Like everything else associated with lioness - the statue appears to be a big fat FAKE!!!!
As usual you front
Side view of above left figure:
LOUVRE # Br 361
Black adolescent with his hands tied behind his back 2nd-1st century BC Provenance: outskirts of Memphis (Egypt)
Height 5 inches Louvre, Departement des Antiquites Grecques/Romaines, Paris, France
This small bronze represents a black adolescent, his hands bound tight behind his back.
This bronze statuette was discovered near Memphis, in the region of Fayyum, in Egypt, and purchased by the Louvre in 1892. The unpolished surface of the figurine shows that it was not finished using cold-working techniques after casting, a method characteristic of bronzfounders in Hellenistic Egypt. The work is probably, therefore, of local origin, dating from the second or first century BC.
This statuette is an original example of the taste for the exotic which seems to have taken root in the Greek cities of the Nile delta, such as Naukratis and Alexandria. During the Hellenistic period, sculptors became particularly fond of genre scenes and vivid, sometimes grotesque subjects, in which exaggerated realism bordered on caricature. In the third century BC, the workshops of Alexandria, in particular, became renowned for their production of figurines depicting the low life of the streets: old people, peddlers, beggars, dwarves, hunchbacks, and other characters. As in the example of this young slave with his hands bound, small figures of black children in bronze or terra-cotta, in a variety of attitudes, were extremely abundant. The exotic ethnic origin of the characters added to the decorative element which was the primary concern in the production of statuary. Black figures were particularly highly prized during the Roman era, until the late imperial period, and provided artists with a favorite subject of study for sculptures in bronze or colored marble.
^Damn lioness, you have to be the stupidest person in the world.
Idiot, what does the youths freedom or lack of freedom, have to do with the AUTHENTICITY of the statue????
As a reminder you idiot, I said that the statue you posted was a FAKE - you idiot!
Posted by CelticWarrioress (Member # 19701) on :
Mike,
Come off it White child wanna be killing, Black racist pos. Whites are not Central Asians nor are we albinos. As I said that is what YOU are trying to do. YOU are trying to hide White history, YOU are trying to write Whites out of history, You do it because you hate Whites and salivate at the thought of White children having a future & wish to destroy them.
MOM,
Go kill some White babies like we all know you want to do,you'll be ok. Also read above, its your butts that are trying to erase White history, trying to write Whites out of history. Its you who's trying to harm White children.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Damn lioness, you have to be the stupidest person in the world.
Idiot, what does the youths freedom or lack of freedom, have to do with the AUTHENTICITY of the statue????
As a reminder you idiot, I said that the statue you posted was a FAKE - you idiot!
jackass read it again:
" The unpolished surface of the figurine shows that it was not finished using cold-working techniques after casting, a method characteristic of bronzfounders in Hellenistic Egypt. "
You are simply a lying scam artist trying to deceive people
Posted by kdolo (Member # 21830) on :
The unpolished surface of the figurine shows that it was not finished using cold-working techniques after casting, a method characteristic of bronzfounders in Hellenistic Egypt. "
Albino Bullshit
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^lioness - it is with great difficulty that I restrain my urge to cuss.
Stupid bitch, that's why I always provide two examples, knowing there will be Albino lies.
Your fake bronze does not look like either.
BTW Everybody - "Cold Worked" in old bronze simply means the figure is HOLLOW, not solid. It has nothing to do with the finish.
i.e sections are poured in a mold, then attached when cold.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Sometime the Albinos use lies that are not appropriate to the times.
This meaning for Cold working could not be done in antiquity.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Of course all of this nonsense from lioness is to detract from the issue of the thread:
The fact that an Albino man from the early 1800s confirms what I have been saying for over ten years here at ES.
And I'm wondering when lamin will beg my pardon.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Of course all of this nonsense from lioness is to detract from the issue of the thread:
The fact that an Albino man from the early 1800s confirms what I have been saying for over ten years here at ES.
And I'm wondering when lamin will beg my pardon.
It doesn't confirm anything.
It is simply a white man speculating. This is 2016. Things have to be proven You can'r just say "he's white and it's in a book so it must be true"
stop being stupid
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Damn you're stupid!
By artifact, text, and logic, I prove on a daily basis what Mr. Higgins said in (1883-?).
But many Albinos and Africans will not accept fact and knowledge from me. Oh how often have I heard the refrain: "show me where a credible source" (A White Person) say's it's so.
Well, Mr. Higgins was a learned Albino, who spent 20 years researching the subject, and who quoted other learned Albinos saying the SAME things on the same subject.
So yes you degenerate, it is proven and confirmed.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: [QB] ^Okay, I will judge.
For one: the Central Asian Albinos arrived in southern Europe circa 1,200 B.C. so this statue does not speak to the original Greeks.
Secondly: The statue looks ARTIFICIALLY AGED!
It shows no real corrosion and pitting like THESE:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
You are such a fraud Mike. Your say that all old BC statues have pitted decay and all old statues have underwent the same environmental conditions is stupid and a lie. And you abandon the theory at your convenience. You are such a slickster trying to fool the people.
So this is what you do. You see statues that you dont like and you instantly say they are "fake" and make up some lies. Then you see a statue you do like you sudden drop all the bullshit you applied to the former case.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Sometime the Albinos use lies that are not appropriate to the times.
This meaning for Cold working could not be done in antiquity.
Read it again fool:
" The unpolished surface of the figurine shows that it was not finished using cold-working techniques after casting, a method characteristic of bronzfounders in Hellenistic Egypt. "
Your point is irrelevant you say "Cold working could not be done in antiquity." and the damn quote said " it was not finished using cold-working techniques " So you are not pointing about any discrepancy you are just restating what they were talking about.
So you are just trying to distract people and put up a chart about Cold working - which was not used on this sculpture !!! when the relevant point was the "unpolished surface of the figurine " The statue's surface was unfinished you old fool. That pitting was not due to age (unlike your facial texture)
Maybe you were hoping that people would think you were right about something by putting up a graphic was that it?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Sorry lioness, I'm not playing this "explain the nonsense I bring up about statues" to keep people from thinking about how Albinos have lied to the world game.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Sorry lioness, I'm not playing this "explain the nonsense I bring up about statues" to keep people from thinking about how Albinos have lied to the world game.
Mike all this Englishman Godfrey Higgins stuff talking about various "blacks" and "negroes" around the world, the fact that in this huge book he does not say that they were the founders of Europe, kind of shuts down your black European noble fantasy by omission.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
And Heracles (Hercules) is a mythological character of the Hellenes. As Buddhism expanded in Central Asia and fused with Hellenistic influences into Greco-Buddhism, the Greek hero Heracles was adopted to represent Vajrapāni. He was then typically depicted as a hairy, muscular athlete, wielding a short "diamond" club. Vajrapāni as Heracles, second-century, Gandhara
^ Mike look at how old this is, second century as per depiction of the Buddha
The gilded bronze Hercules of the Forum Boarium, (Capitoline Museum, Rome. 2nd century BC
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
statue of the head of Hercules came from the villa of the Roman Emperor Hadrian. 117-188 CE
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Sorry lioness, I'm not playing this "explain the nonsense I bring up about statues" to keep people from thinking about how Albinos have lied to the world game.
