The point of hammering away at European Albinism was to get to this point.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Look the bottom line is that whatever you want to call them white people have higher rates of skin cancer than blacks, therefore blacks are superior. So everybody needs to realize this and therefore whites should give up their power.
Said sarcastically.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: yes but what is the relevance of it? If whites and light skinned East Asians or anybody are all albinos what about it?
They get skin cancer at a higher rate.
This is some sort of revelation? No one knew this until Mike and you came out with it? They're "albinos". All it means is that they get skin cancer at a higher rate. So the **** what?
Are you that delusional?
Meaning - Fuch you, it doesn't change a thing!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
What is White Supremacy?
Written by Elizabeth Martínez
*Workshop Definition* White Supremacy is an historically based, institutionally perpetuated system of exploitation and oppression of continents, nations, and peoples of color by white peoples and nations of the European continent, for the purpose of maintaining and defending a system of wealth, power, and privilege.
I. What does it mean to say it is a system?
The most common mistake people make when they talk about racism is to think it is a collection of prejudices and individual acts of discrimination. They do not see that it is a system, a web of interlocking, reinforcing institutions: economic, military, legal, educational, religious, and cultural. As a system, racism affects every aspect of life in a country.
By not seeing that racism is systemic (part of a system), people often personalize or individualize racist acts. For example, they will reduce racist police behavior to "a few bad apples" who need to be removed, rather than seeing it exists in police departments all over the country and is basic to the society. This mistake has real consequences: refusing to see police brutality as part of a system, and that the system needs to be changed, means that the brutality will continue.
The need to recognize racism as being systemic is one reason the term White Supremacy has been more useful than the term racism. They refer to the same problem but:
A. The purpose of racism is much clearer when we call it "white supremacy." Some people think of racism as just a matter of prejudice. "Supremacy" defines a power relationship.
Lioness understands this, that is why she was feeling so "Smug". Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
This Black hating/Self hating Negro bought into the bullsh1t.
(Clarence Thomas
Do you think he would have done that, and hated himself and his own kind, if he knew that his White lords were Black too - just defective Albinos
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
A simpler definition of white supremacy is white rulership
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: A simpler definition of white supremacy is white rulership
Damn you're stupid:
A Black man rules the U.S.
Is Black supremacy status quo in the U.S.?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: :
A Black man rules the U.S.
and you think I'm stupid, lol
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Again
white supremacy = white rule
Posted by CelticWarrioress (Member # 19701) on :
Mike, no not yet its not. However we know that's what you and your ilk (Clyde,Xy-YT-hater,Zarahan,Jantavanta,Kdolo,Troll Patrol,Mena7,MOM) want. Black supremacy throughout the world & Whitey gone from the planet. No more White children born no more Whitey period.
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Mike, no not yet its not. However we know that's what you and your ilk (Clyde,Xy-YT-hater,Zarahan,Jantavanta,Kdolo,Troll Patrol,Mena7,MOM) want. Black supremacy throughout the world & Whitey gone from the planet. No more White children born no more Whitey period.
You are sooooooo unrealistic. LOL From where do you get all these fantasies? Lucid "dreams"? You level of projection is amusing. None here talked about killing whites (albinos as some call you) children, except for you. In fact you care only for whites, and everybody else can die (I care for humanity as a whole). You've expressed your sick nuances many times. LOL SMH
So all your false accusations are typical Southern American tradition.
But here is the deal and here are the facts!!!
quote: EUROCENTRISM (Western Colonialism)
By: Dr. Antoon De Baets
During most of the last two centuries,the prevailing popular view of world history held that a mainstream of facts could be identified in the flood of events taking place since the dawn of humanity. Essentially, this mainstream coincided with the history of Europe and its antecedents and successors—all the heirs and transmitters of civilization. The source of this stream of facts was located in Egypt and the Near East, and via Greece and Rome it slowly flowed westward to medieval western Europe. In the course of two colonization waves—the first starting in 1450, the second in 1870—it finally came to encompass the whole planet.
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FIVE LEVELS OF EUROCENTRISM
The mainstream principle reveals a broader tendency— namely, to perceive one’s own culture as the center of everything and other cultures as its periphery. This tendency is called ethnocentrism.
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--Dr. Antoon De Baets History Dept., Univ. of Groningen,
Definition of domination 1 : supremacy or preeminence over another 2 : exercise of mastery or ruling power 3 : exercise of preponderant, governing, or controlling influence 4 plural : dominion 3
domination (n.) Look up domination at Dictionary.com late 14c., "rule, control," from Old French dominacion (12c.) "domination, rule, power," from Latin dominationem (nominative dominatio), noun of action from past participle stem of dominari "to rule, have dominion over," from dominus "lord, master," literally "master of the house," from domus "home" (see domestic) + -nus, suffix denoting ownership or relation. Sexual sense by 1961.
The state or condition of being superior to all others in authority, power, or status: the supremacy of the king
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superior
1 Higher in rank, status, or quality: a superior officer it is superior to every other car on the road More example sentences Synonyms
1.1 Of high standard or quality: superior malt whiskeys
1.2 Greater in size or power: deploying superior force
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Webster's:
supreme
: highest in rank or authority <the supreme commander> 2 : highest in degree or quality <supreme endurance in war and in labour — R. W. Emerson> 3 : ultimate, final <the supreme sacrifice>
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superior
1 : situated higher up : upper 2 : of higher rank, quality, or importance 3 : courageously or serenely indifferent (as to something painful or disheartening) 4 a : greater in quantity or numbers <escaped by superior speed> b : excellent of its kind : better <her superior memory>
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The definitions are similar but in my mind the way these words are most often used "superiority" weighs more toward meaning "better than"
and "supreme", a word not used as much, implies an elite at the top of a hierarchy "the supreme command" it has a military or governmental connotation.
However the way people most often use the term "white supremacy" what they mean is "a sense of white being innately better"
I was looking for the first use of the term "white supremacy"
etymonline.com says
"White supremacy attested from 1884".
but I can't find more information on it
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You know what's funny about this term "white supremacy" is that people who use it to describe oppression by Europeans are virtually saying "white superiority" when they talk about "white supremacy" so while they intend to chastise whites they are going around saying what amounts to "white superiority" as opposed to "whites' false sense of superiority".
In other words by leaving that out unintentionally(?) on a subliminal level they are perpetuating the word meanings that Europeans are in fact superior, it's just that we don't like it.
I've used the term "white supremacy" a little but every time I hear it something tells me something is a little off about it on the subconscious level. It's like it's a given rather than indicated as a false premise.
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
The bases of the above, is being able to exercise your power over others.
Let's take your keyword: "authority"
1) The power or right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience...
2) (often authorities) A person or organization having power or control in a particular, typically political or administrative, sphere:
3) The power to influence others, especially because of one’s commanding manner or one’s recognized knowledge about something...
This is a guy on youtube I found when looking for first use of the term "white supremacy" . I didn't find that but, the following:
Dr. Steven Nur Ahmed is the founder of the Malcolm X Society. He has taught Islam and Theology. Is a professor of Sociology, Philosophy, Criminal Justice, & a Psych. Social Worker.
He has a video called "White Supremacy: Its Origin" He blames the Hindus Varna Caste system 1,500 BC for the origin of white supremacy (Varna means color caste)
He then he goes on to describe what he says is Plato planted the seed of white supremacy in Europe by adopting the ancient Hindu legal text Manu Smriti ("the book of Manu")
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I don 't know much about the topic, no comment yet
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
The odd thing is that white people would consider all these people "colored" of brown. Yet you still find a supremacy here of skin lighter to darker
Plato’s Republic, Book V, page 469.
First take slavery. Is it right that Greek states should sell Greeks into slavery? Ought they not rather to do all they can to stop this practice and substitute the custom of sparing their own race, for fear of falling into bondage to foreign nations?
That would be better, beyond all comparison.
They must not, then, hold any Greek in slavery themselves, and they should advise the rest of Greece not to do so.
Certainly. Then they would be more likely to keep their hands off one another and turn their energies against foreigners.
Page 470:
Is it not also reasonable to assert that the Greeks are a single people, all of the same kindred and alien to the outer world of foreigners?
Yes.
Then we shall speak of war when Greeks fight with foreigners, whom we may call their natural enemies. But Greeks are by nature friends of Greeks, and when they fight, it means Hellas is afflicted by dissension which ought to be called civil strife.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Plato:
And having made it he divided the whole mixture into souls equal in number to the stars, and assigned each soul to a star; and having there placed them as in a chariot, he showed them the nature of the universe, and declared to them the laws of destiny, according to which their first birth would be one and the same for all - no one should suffer a disadvantage at his hands; they were to be sown in the instruments of time severally adapted to them, and to come forth the most religious of animals; and as human nature was of two kinds, the superior race would hereafter be called man. Now, when they should be implanted in bodies by necessity, and be always gaining or losing some part of their bodily substance, then in the first place it would be necessary that they should all have in them one and the same faculty of sensation, arising out of irresistible impressions; in the second place, they must have love, in which pleasure and pain mingle; also fear and anger, and the feelings which are akin or opposite to them; if they conquered these they would live righteously, and if they were conquered by them, unrighteously. ~ Plato: Timaeus
And God proclaims as a first principle to the rulers, and above all else, that there is nothing which they should so anxiously guard, or of which they are to be such good guardians, as of the purity of the race. They should observe what elements mingle in their offspring; for if the son of a golden or silver parent has an admixture of brass and iron, then nature orders a transposition of ranks, and the eye of the ruler must not be pitiful toward the child because he has to descend in the scale and become a husbandman or artisan, just as there may be sons of artisans who having an admixture of gold or silver in them are raised to honor, and become guardians or auxiliaries. For an oracle says that when a man of brass or iron guards the State, it will be destroyed. ~ Plato: The State, Book 3
First of all, in regard to slavery? Do you think it right that Hellenes should enslave Hellenic States, or allow others to enslave them, if they can help? Should not their custom be to spare them, considering the danger which there is that the whole race may one day fall under the yoke of the barbarians? And may I not observe with equal propriety that the Hellenic race is all united together by ties of blood and friendship, and alien and strange to the barbarians? ~ Plato: The State, Book 5
In the succeeding generation rulers will be appointed who have lost the guardian power of testing the metal of your different races, which, like Hesiod's, are of gold and silver and brass and iron. And so iron will be mingled with silver, and brass with gold, and hence there will arise dissimilarity and inequality and irregularity, which always and in all places are causes of hatred and war. When discord arose, then the two races were drawn different ways: the iron and brass fell to acquiring money, and land, and houses, and gold, and silver; but the gold and silver races, not wanting money, but having the true riches in their own nature, inclined toward virtue and the ancient order of things. There was a battle between them, and at last they agreed to distribute their land and houses among individual owners; and they enslaved their friends and maintainers, whom they had formerly protected in the condition of freemen, and made of them subjects and servants; and they themselves were engaged in war and in keeping a watch against them. ~ Plato: The State, Book 8 Sons, the event proves that your fathers were brave men; for we might have lived dishonourably, but have preferred to die honourably rather than bring you and your children into disgrace, and rather than dishonour our own fathers and forefathers; considering that life is not life to one who is a dishonour to his race, and that to such a one neither men nor Gods are friendly, either while he is on the earth or after death in the world below. ~ Plato: Menexenus
Athenian. Whether the better is ever really conquered by the worse, is a question which requires more discussion, and may be therefore left for the present. But I now quite understand your meaning when you say that citizens who are of the same race and live in the same cities may unjustly conspire, and having the superiority in numbers may overcome and enslave the few just; and when they prevail, the state may be truly called its own inferior and therefore bad; and when they are defeated, its own superior and therefore good. ~ Plato: Laws, Book 1
Cleinias. They will come from all Crete; and of other Hellenes, Peloponnesians will be most acceptable. For, as you truly observe, there are Cretans of Argive descent; and the race of Cretans which has the highest character at the present day is the Gortynian, and this has come from Gortys in the Peloponnesus. ~ Plato: Laws, Book 4
Athenian. Cities find colonization in some respects easier if the colonists are one race, which like a swarm of bees is sent out from a single country, either when friends leave friends, owing to some pressure of population or other similar necessity, or when a portion of a state is driven by factions to emigrate. And there have been whole cities which have taken flight when utterly conquered by a superior power in war. This, however, which is in one way an advantage to the colonist or legislator, in another point of view creates a difficulty. There is an element of friendship in the community of race, and language, and laws, and in common temples and rites of worship; but colonies which are of this homogeneous sort are apt to kick against any laws or any form of constitution differing from that which they had at home; and although the badness of their own laws may have been the cause of the factions which prevailed among them, yet from the force of habit they would fain preserve the very customs which were their ruin, and the leader of the colony, who is their legislator, finds them troublesome and rebellious. On the other hand, the conflux of several populations might be more disposed to listen to new laws; but then, to make them combine and pull together, as they say of horses, is a most difficult task, and the work of years. And yet there is nothing which tends more to the improvement of mankind than legislation and colonization. ~ Plato: Laws, Book 4
Which reflection led him to appoint not men but demigods, who are of a higher and more divine race, to be the kings and rulers of our cities; he did as we do with flocks of sheep and other tame animals. For we do not appoint oxen to be the lords of oxen, or goats of goats; but we ourselves are a superior race, and rule over them. ~ Plato: Laws, Book 4
O sir, we will say to him, the impulse which moves you to rob temples is not an ordinary human malady, nor yet a visitation of heaven, but a madness which is begotten in a man from ancient and unexpiated crimes of his race, an ever-recurring curse; against this you must guard with all your might, and how you are to guard we will explain to you. ~ Plato: Laws, Book 9
Now it is difficult to determine accurately the things which are worthy or unworthy of a freeman, but let those who have obtained the prize of virtue give judgment about them in accordance with their feelings of right and wrong. He who in any way shares in the illiberality of retail trades may be indicted for dishonouring his race by any one who likes, before those who have been judged to be the first in virtue; and if he appear to throw dirt upon his father’s house by an unworthy occupation, let him be imprisoned for a year and abstain from that sort of thing; and if he repeat the offence, for two years; and every time that he is convicted let the length of his imprisonment be doubled. ~ Plato: Laws, Book 11
SOCRATES: Do you not remember that he speaks of a golden race of men who came first?
HERMOGENES: Yes, I do.
SOCRATES: He says of them -
"But now that fate has closed over this race They are holy demons upon the earth, Beneficent, averters of ills, guardians of mortal men." (Hesiod, Works and Days.)
HERMOGENES: What is the inference?
SOCRATES: What is the inference! Why, I suppose that he means by the golden men, not men literally made of gold, but good and noble; and I am convinced of this, because he further says that we are the iron race.
HERMOGENES: That is true.
SOCRATES: And do you not suppose that good men of our own day would by him be said to be of golden race?
HERMOGENES: Very likely.
SOCRATES: And are not the good wise?
HERMOGENES: Yes, they are wise.
SOCRATES: And therefore I have the most entire conviction that he called them demons, because they were daemones (knowing or wise), and in our older Attic dialect the word itself occurs. Now he and other poets say truly, that when a good man dies he has honour and a mighty portion among the dead, and becomes a demon; which is a name given to him signifying wisdom. And I say too, that every wise man who happens to be a good man is more than human (daimonion) both in life and death, and is rightly called a demon. ~ Plato: Cratylus
SOCRATES: In the next place, consider that what you say is probably false.
ALCIBIADES: How so?
SOCRATES: Let me ask you whether better natures are likely to be found in noble races or not in noble races?
ALCIBIADES: Clearly in noble races.
SOCRATES: Are not those who are well born and well bred most likely to be perfect in virtue?
ALCIBIADES: Certainly. ~ Plato: Alcibiades
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
However,
Classicist James Dee states "the Greeks do not describe themselves as "white people"—or as anything else because they had no regular word in their color vocabulary for themselves."[3] People's skin color did not carry useful meaning; what mattered is where they lived.
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The term "white race" or "white people" entered the major European languages in the later 17th century,
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Posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova (Member # 15718) on :
A. The purpose of racism is much clearer when we call it "white supremacy." Some people think of racism as just a matter of prejudice. "Supremacy" defines a power relationship.
Many definitions of racism have always included a power relationship, of which white supremacism is a part. There are white people who have no power and don't want to exercise any power, but are very racist. So the individual and the systematic aspects go TOGETHER to make up the system of racism.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: There are white people who have no power and don't want to exercise any power, but are very racist. So the individual and the systematic aspects go together to make up a system of racism.
what systemic aspects?
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: There are white people who have no power and don't want to exercise any power, but are very racist. So the individual and the systematic aspects go together to make up a system of racism.
what systemic aspects?
INSTITUTIONAL!
Those whites with no power, live in a structure supported by the institutional spawn. This is why they are able to exercise racism.
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
"White supremacy attested from 1884"
Summary of the Argument of The Invention of the White Race1
quote: 31. The essential elements that gave to Protestant Ascendancy after 1689 in Ireland and white supremacy in continental Anglo-America the character of racial oppression were those that first destroyed the original forms of social identity among the subject population, and then excluded the members of that population from admittance into the forms of social identity normal to the colonizing power. The codifications of this basic organizing principle in the Penal Laws of the Protestant Ascendancy in Ireland and the slave codes of white supremacy in continental Anglo-America present four common defining characteristics of those two regimes: 1) declassing legislation, directed at property-holding members of the oppressed group; 2) the deprivation of civil rights; 3) the illegalization of literacy; and 4) displacement of family rights and authorities.46
Definition of domination 1: supremacy or preeminence over another 2: exercise of mastery or ruling power 3: exercise of preponderant, governing, or controlling influence
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
This 1868 book might be the origin of the term "white supremacy"
John H. Van Evrie (1814–1896)[1] was an American physician and defender of slavery[2] best known as the editor of the Weekly Day Book and the author of several books on race and slavery which reproduced the ideas of scientific racism for a popular audience.[3] He was also the proprietor of the publishing company Van Evrie, Horton & Company.[4] Van Evrie was described by the historian George M. Fredrickson as "perhaps the first professional racist in American history."[5] His thought, which lacked significant scientific evidence,[6] emphasized the inferiority of black people to white people, defended slavery as practiced in the United States and attacked abolitionism, while opposing class distinctions among white people and the oppression of the white working class.
White Supremacy and Negro Subordination (1868)[edit]
Title page of the 1868 edition of White Supremacy and Negro Subordination In 1867 Negroes and Negro "Slavery", stripped of references to miscegenation and "subgenation", was republished as White Supremacy and Negro Subordination or, Negroes A Subordinate Race and Slavery Its Normal Condition.[7] The stated intention of the 1868 edition was to demonstrate "that the so-called slavery of the South was the Negro's normal or natural condition".[10] Van Evrie also sought to capitalize on white opposition to the 14th Amendment, which granted civil rights to black people.[82] White Supremacy and Negro Subordination focuses on white supremacy's paternalistic aspects. Here Van Evrie argues that black people possessed "wonderful imitative powers" and that the role of the slaveowner was primarily to set "a proper example".[83] Van Evrie cites craniometry, physical anthropology, comparative anatomy and biological determinism in support of his argument that slaves were absolutely dependent on their masters.[52] In White Supremacy and Negro Subordination Van Evrie also cited black people's perceived inability to grow beards and the "absolute resemblance" allegedly shared by all black people as further justification for slavery.[84] The book also features several chapters detailing alleged similarities between black people and animals,[85] and a preface in which Van Evrie lamented that Northerners "now rule the South by military force ... and are striving to 'reconstruct' American society on a Mongrel basis" (see Reconstruction Era).[86]
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Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
Could be, it likely is the oldest book with this description.
John H. Van Evrie, 1868 edition of White Supremacy and Negro Subordination.
However preference for lighter skin on a relative basis (not something I agree with) is seen in other cultures not defined as "white" also. One might call it "lighter skin supremacy" or "colorism"
Posted by Mindovermatter (Member # 22317) on :
Liarness is trying to hi-jack and derail this thread as usual, people people please don't feed the troll!
The whole preference for light skin, was only recorded AFTER White Eurasians/White Indo-Europeans/White Europeans took over areas, or invaded areas, where it was recorded AFTERWARDS that they had a preference for light skin,as if Whites knew their history all along, AFTER NOT BEFORE!
Is that a surprise? Probably not!
This is basically historical revisionism by the European albino's, when they went around and colonized places globally and re-wrote histories about entire cultures and regions, particularly the places they colonized, in order to fabricate and create a false history to support White supremacist thinking! And which they have brainwashed people into believing...
Otherwise this was the reality and norm of the world BEFORE THEY TOOK OVER!
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter: [QB] Lioness is trying to hi-jack and derail this thread as usual, don't feed the troll people!
The fact of the matter is that the Chinese have been ruled and taken over and admixed by Indo-European/White Eurasian peoples in history, and through their rule and admixture w/ the ORIGINAL BLACK CHINESE PEOPLE, they have managed to mold and socially engineer them to favor "light skin" and "white traits".
They have also likely transferred the Albino parasite gene to the Chinese population that I have referred to. This is where the REAL preference for light skin comes from, NOT bullshit theories for working out in the sun!
It's more bullshyt from Mindovermatter, genetics on the modern Chinese shows his claims to be absolute nonsense.
Posted by Mindovermatter (Member # 22317) on :
^^Folks look at how stupid our dear Liarness is!
First of all genetics and history actually does SUPPORT THE FACT THAT the modern Chinese DO HAVE INDO-EUROPEAN/WHITE ADMIXTURE FROM THEIR ANCIENT PAST, and EVEN CHINESE NATIONALS THEMSELVES CLAIM THIS ONLINE, ALL OF WHICH, I have pin pointed in the other thread!
And the Chinese people are not even genetically homogeneous or mono-ethnic either! A point our idiot liarness fails to grasp or understand! There is just too much regional variation between Northern and Southern Chinese, enough for them to be distinct groups.
Second of all, the first people to inhabit China, CAME FROM THE INDIA AREA, THROUGH SOUTH EAST ASIA, TO SETTLE SOUTHERN CHINA!
And I used that Marco polo thing AS AN EXAMPLE, supposedly the albino's tell us that preference for lighter skin would be seen in hot tropical regions where dark skin is the norm and light skin was rare; and there would be universal preference for light skin!
But EVEN IN A HOT SUNLIGHT AND TROPICAL PLACE LIKE SOUTHERN INDIA, THERE WAS A HISTORICAL PREFERENCE FOR DARK BLACK SKIN! AS RECORDED BY THE EUROPEAN ALBINO'S!
See how much bullshit and lies a degenerate albino liar like Liarness espouses folks? This is the dumbfuckery that you would expect from a degenerate albino like Liarness!
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^ These are the South Indian people biased against for being dark in the ancient Manusmriti text ( 1250 BCE and 1000 BCE)
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter: ^^Folks look at how stupid our dear Liarness is!
First of all genetics and history actually does SUPPORT THE FACT THAT the modern Chinese DO HAVE INDO-EUROPEAN/WHITE ADMIXTURE FROM THEIR ANCIENT PAST, and EVEN CHINESE NATIONALS THEMSELVES CLAIM THIS ONLINE, ALL OF WHICH, I have pin pointed in the other thread!
And the Chinese people are not even genetically homogeneous or mono-ethnic either! A point our idiot liarness fails to grasp or understand! There is just too much regional variation between Northern and Southern Chinese, enough for them to be distinct groups.
Second of all, the first people to inhabit China, CAME FROM THE INDIA AREA, THROUGH SOUTH EAST ASIA, TO SETTLE SOUTHERN CHINA!
And I used that Marco polo thing AS AN EXAMPLE, supposedly the albino's tell us that preference for lighter skin would be seen in hot tropical regions where dark skin is the norm and light skin was rare; and there would be universal preference for light skin!
But EVEN IN A HOT SUNLIGHT AND TROPICAL PLACE LIKE SOUTHERN INDIA, THERE WAS A HISTORICAL PREFERENCE FOR DARK BLACK SKIN! AS RECORDED BY THE EUROPEAN ALBINO'S!
See how much bullshit and lies a degenerate albino liar like Liarness espouses folks? This is the dumbfuckery that you would expect from a degenerate albino like Liarness!
Mike told you stop the long winded blowing of hot air.
Either you have the genetic data to support what you are claiming or you don't.
AND YOU CLEARLY DON'T so stop the fraud
we can get into the DNA if you persist and the grape will be crushed twice
Posted by Mindovermatter (Member # 22317) on :
HE HE HE HE, where is the sources for that Liarness, and who was that translation written by? Do you really think I can't see the above writing and see through your stupidity and lies?
And where does it say that this account WAS ONLY IN SOUTH INDIA, WHEN MARCO POLO TRAVELED THERE?
Because there was no way that Ancient South Indians could be against being dark, WHEN THEY ARE THE DARKEST PEOPLE IN INDIA TODAY, EVEN DARKER THEN VARIOUS AFRAM PEOPLE, AND SOUTH INDIA IS THE HOTTEST AND MOST SUNNY PORTION OF INDIA TODAY WHERE BEING DARK SKINNED WOULD BE A NECESSITY!
Damn your stupidity and idiocy and low-grade lies really knows no bounds Liarness!
Posted by Mindovermatter (Member # 22317) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter: ^^Folks look at how stupid our dear Liarness is!
First of all genetics and history actually does SUPPORT THE FACT THAT the modern Chinese DO HAVE INDO-EUROPEAN/WHITE ADMIXTURE FROM THEIR ANCIENT PAST, and EVEN CHINESE NATIONALS THEMSELVES CLAIM THIS ONLINE, ALL OF WHICH, I have pin pointed in the other thread!
And the Chinese people are not even genetically homogeneous or mono-ethnic either! A point our idiot liarness fails to grasp or understand! There is just too much regional variation between Northern and Southern Chinese, enough for them to be distinct groups.
Second of all, the first people to inhabit China, CAME FROM THE INDIA AREA, THROUGH SOUTH EAST ASIA, TO SETTLE SOUTHERN CHINA!
And I used that Marco polo thing AS AN EXAMPLE, supposedly the albino's tell us that preference for lighter skin would be seen in hot tropical regions where dark skin is the norm and light skin was rare; and there would be universal preference for light skin!
But EVEN IN A HOT SUNLIGHT AND TROPICAL PLACE LIKE SOUTHERN INDIA, THERE WAS A HISTORICAL PREFERENCE FOR DARK BLACK SKIN! AS RECORDED BY THE EUROPEAN ALBINO'S!
See how much bullshit and lies a degenerate albino liar like Liarness espouses folks? This is the dumbfuckery that you would expect from a degenerate albino like Liarness!
Mike told you stop the long winded blowing of hot air.
Either you have the genetic data to support what you are claiming or you don't.
AND YOU CLEARLY DON'T so stop the fraud
we can get into the DNA if you persist and the grape will be crushed twice
No the fact of the matter is that you really don't have genetic data to support it, and you never did, and if you did, it wouldn't cover the entire spectrum of China, as China is the size of the U.S.
Also real accurate genetic data about the Chinese population IN CHINA, is hard to come by, because of censorship and the huge control that the Chinese government imposes on this type of info and data getting out!
I have already shown multiple times, FROM CHINESE NATIONALS FROM CHINA AS SOURCES, historical realities of the Ancient Chinese having admixed w/ White Indo-European type peoples....
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter:
First of all genetics and history actually does SUPPORT THE FACT THAT the modern Chinese DO HAVE INDO-EUROPEAN/WHITE ADMIXTURE it wouldn't cover the entire spectrum of China, as China is the size of the U.S.
Also real accurate genetic data about the Chinese population IN CHINA, is hard to come by, because of censorship and the huge control that the Chinese government imposes on this type of info and data getting out!
I have already shown multiple times, FROM CHINESE NATIONALS FROM CHINA AS SOURCES, historical realities of the Ancient Chinese having admixed w/ White Indo-European type peoples.... [/QB]
So when you said you had genetic evidence, when YOU made these claims you were LYING
The best you could come up with is that China is big, really really big.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
The topic is white supremacy. Even Mike would admit I have made valuable contributions to the topic including -what may be the first example of the term "white supremacy", - similar colorism in the Hindu caste system -Plato's remarks
Mindovermatter is simply jealous of my contributions and trying to derail the thread by bringing up China, in long winded format which Mike already chastised him about and where there are already recent threads on China up.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter: HE HE HE HE, where is the sources for that Liarness, and who was that translation written by? Do you really think I can't see the above writing and see through your stupidity and lies?
And where does it say that this account WAS ONLY IN SOUTH INDIA, WHEN MARCO POLO TRAVELED THERE?
Because there was no way that Ancient South Indians could be against being dark, WHEN THEY ARE THE DARKEST PEOPLE IN INDIA TODAY, EVEN DARKER THEN VARIOUS AFRAM PEOPLE, AND SOUTH INDIA IS THE HOTTEST AND MOST SUNNY PORTION OF INDIA TODAY WHERE BEING DARK SKINNED WOULD BE A NECESSITY!
Damn your stupidity and idiocy and low-grade lies really knows no bounds Liarness!
stop being ignorant. Look up the "Aryan invasion of India". It far predates Marco Polo and Dr. Clyde Winters subscribes to it
You've never heard of the caste system and how color is a part of it? As I said stop being ignorant, do the knowledge
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: However preference for lighter skin on a relative basis (not something I agree with) is seen in other cultures not defined as "white" also. One might call it "lighter skin supremacy" or "colorism"
The problem of your theory lies within the Brown Paper Bag. Question is, would you pass?
The brown paper bag is where this one drop rule ends. Not my words. Don't get it twisted.
quote:That was one cultural legacy that would be put to rest in a hurry-we all made sure of that. But in a manner of speaking, it was replaced by an opposite test whereby those who were deemed "not black enough' ideologically were to be shunned. I was not sure this was an improvement."
quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter: [QB] Lioness is trying to hi-jack and derail this thread as usual, don't feed the troll people!
The fact of the matter is that the Chinese have been ruled and taken over and admixed by Indo-European/White Eurasian peoples in history, and through their rule and admixture w/ the ORIGINAL BLACK CHINESE PEOPLE, they have managed to mold and socially engineer them to favor "light skin" and "white traits".
They have also likely transferred the Albino parasite gene to the Chinese population that I have referred to. This is where the REAL preference for light skin comes from, NOT bullshit theories for working out in the sun!
It's more bullshyt from Mindovermatter, genetics on the modern Chinese shows his claims to be absolute nonsense.
I wonder how nearby populations with darker or dark skin relate to the Chinese.
quote: The regional distribution of an ancient Y-chromosome haplogroup C-M130 (Hg C) in Asia provides an ideal tool of dissecting prehistoric migration events. We identified 465 Hg C individuals out of 4284 males from 140 East and Southeast Asian populations. We genotyped these Hg C individuals using 12 Y-chromosome biallelic markers and 8 commonly used Y-short tandem repeats (Y-STRs), and performed phylogeographic analysis in combination with the published data. The results show that most of the Hg C subhaplogroups have distinct geographical distribution and have undergone long-time isolation, although Hg C individuals are distributed widely across Eurasia. Furthermore, a general south-to-north and east-to-west cline of Y-STR diversity is observed with the highest diversity in Southeast Asia. The phylogeographic distribution pattern of Hg C supports a single coastal 'Out-of-Africa' route by way of the Indian subcontinent, which eventually led to the early settlement of modern humans in mainland Southeast Asia. The northward expansion of Hg C in East Asia started approximately 40 thousand of years ago (KYA) along the coastline of mainland China and reached Siberia approximately 15 KYA and finally made its way to the Americas.
--Zhong H1, Shi H, Qi XB, Xiao CJ, Jin L, Ma RZ, Su B.
Global distribution of Y-chromosome haplogroup C reveals the prehistoric migration routes of African exodus and early settlement in East Asia.
quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter: HE HE HE HE, where is the sources for that Liarness, and who was that translation written by? Do you really think I can't see the above writing and see through your stupidity and lies?
And where does it say that this account WAS ONLY IN SOUTH INDIA, WHEN MARCO POLO TRAVELED THERE?
Because there was no way that Ancient South Indians could be against being dark, WHEN THEY ARE THE DARKEST PEOPLE IN INDIA TODAY, EVEN DARKER THEN VARIOUS AFRAM PEOPLE, AND SOUTH INDIA IS THE HOTTEST AND MOST SUNNY PORTION OF INDIA TODAY WHERE BEING DARK SKINNED WOULD BE A NECESSITY!
Damn your stupidity and idiocy and low-grade lies really knows no bounds Liarness!
stop being ignorant. Look up the "Aryan invasion of India". It far predates Marco Polo and Dr. Clyde Winters subscribes to it
You've never heard of the caste system and how color is a part of it? As I said stop being ignorant, do the knowledge
I would love to see you challenge Indian people on this "Aryan invasion of India" theory. There are Indian message boards. Please link it, so I (we) can read along. Also, on how they view the "cast-system". I am sure, its going to be interesting. I wonder who would look ignorant.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: I would love to see you challenge Indian people on this "Aryan invasion of India" theory. There are Indian message boards. Please link it, so I (we) can read along. Also, on how they view the "cast-system". I am sure, its going to be interesting. I wonder who would look ignorant.
why would I challenge a theory that I advised someone to look into?
Have you heard of the Aryan Migration or Invasion theory into India?
Go look it up, 122,000 results on google
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: I would love to see you challenge Indian people on this "Aryan invasion of India" theory. There are Indian message boards. Please link it, so I (we) can read along. Also, on how they view the "cast-system". I am sure, its going to be interesting. I wonder who would look ignorant.
why would I challenge a theory that I advised someone to look into?
Have you heard of the Aryan Migration or Invasion theory into India?
Go look it up, 122,000 results on google
Yes, I have heard of it of course. And I have seen actual debates on this with Indian people. It was straight up a slaughterhouse for those whites. It was amusing to read and watch.
From your kind words I take it you're scared to deal with them. Afraid they bombard you with Sanskrit.
"Go look it up, 122,000 results on google". So?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
It was straight up a slaughterhouse for those whites. It was amusing to read and watch.
So the Aryans came and got killed
Let us know when you have references
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
It was straight up a slaughterhouse for those whites. It was amusing to read and watch.
So the Aryans came and got killed
Let us know when you have references
I'm not sure if aryans came as you imply, but those whites on those Indian message boards surely virtually got killed.
"Have you heard of the Aryan Migration or Invasion theory into India?"
I see forward your posts there. Good luck honey.
Ps, don't forget to direct the link here, of "your debate" there.
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: This is a guy on youtube I found when looking for first use of the term "white supremacy" . I didn't find that but, the following:
Dr. Steven Nur Ahmed is the founder of the Malcolm X Society. He has taught Islam and Theology. Is a professor of Sociology, Philosophy, Criminal Justice, & a Psych. Social Worker.
He has a video called "White Supremacy: Its Origin" He blames the Hindus Varna Caste system 1,500 BC for the origin of white supremacy (Varna means color caste)
He then he goes on to describe what he says is Plato planted the seed of white supremacy in Europe by adopting the ancient Hindu legal text Manu Smriti ("the book of Manu")
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I don 't know much about the topic, no comment yet
^ It explained a lot.
And I know of an "alternative Greek Bible", written somewhere in the 3rd or 4th century, which is in line with what Dr. Steven Nur Ahmed explained on classical Greeks. I don't know what it's called. But the texts are horrific racist.
Posted by CelticWarrioress (Member # 19701) on :
Troll Patrol,
Lie again, you only care about Blacks & other POC. You hete Whites & view Blacks as superior & Whites as inferior just as Mike,Clyde,Kdolo,MOM,Zarahan,Mena7,Xy-YT-hater do. You believe that Whites have no right to self knowledge,self determination,self rulership,. You don't believe that Whites have a right to living space for ourselves,nor according to you do our children have any right to a future. You yourself said that Whites should be mixed into extinction (genocide). You have a problem with a few Whites being in Africa (even though they are being slaughtered like cattle there,being denied an education for White children, not allowed to own a business,being denied employment for being White,having no charities to help if you are poor & White,being denied medical care even if critically injured or critically ill for being White) but yet have no problem with Blacks & other POC like yourself trying to take over Europe (which of course you try to claim the history and ownership of claiming we have no history,homeland,etc). Talk to me when you can go to a city in Any African country and play spot the Negro like you can play spot the cracka in London,Paris,etc. You don't want equality, you want Blacks on top & Whites on the very bottom. BTW, Whites have a right to White supremacy in Europe its our land.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
what is Black Supremacy ?
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: what is Black Supremacy ?
That's a great question. Considering white supremacy.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: What is White Supremacy?
Written by Elizabeth Martínez
*Workshop Definition* White Supremacy is an historically based, institutionally perpetuated system of exploitation and oppression of continents, nations, and peoples of color by white peoples and nations of the European continent, for the purpose of maintaining and defending a system of wealth, power, and privilege.
I. What does it mean to say it is a system?
The most common mistake people make when they talk about racism is to think it is a collection of prejudices and individual acts of discrimination. They do not see that it is a system, a web of interlocking, reinforcing institutions: economic, military, legal, educational, religious, and cultural. As a system, racism affects every aspect of life in a country.
By not seeing that racism is systemic (part of a system), people often personalize or individualize racist acts. For example, they will reduce racist police behavior to "a few bad apples" who need to be removed, rather than seeing it exists in police departments all over the country and is basic to the society. This mistake has real consequences: refusing to see police brutality as part of a system, and that the system needs to be changed, means that the brutality will continue.
The need to recognize racism as being systemic is one reason the term White Supremacy has been more useful than the term racism. They refer to the same problem but:
A. The purpose of racism is much clearer when we call it "white supremacy." Some people think of racism as just a matter of prejudice. "Supremacy" defines a power relationship.
Lioness understands this, that is why she was feeling so "Smug".
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Troll Patrol,
Lie again, you only care about Blacks & other POC. You hete Whites & view Blacks as superior & Whites as inferior just as Mike,Clyde,Kdolo,MOM,Zarahan,Mena7,Xy-YT-hater do.
LOL AT THIS IDIOTICY! Southern culture at it's best, I guess. You make up stuff as you go along. But it's you who is doing all the hating, because it's your southern tradition.
I tell you I care for mankind as a whole, you twist it into "you lie you hate all white". lol smh
I have friends from all backgrounds.
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Troll Patrol,
You believe that Whites have no right to self knowledge,self determination,self rulership,.
Where exactly are whites being denied "all these rights?" LOL SMH
If anything, it's whites invoking in black peoples lives all the time. Based on all socioeconomic principles.
Doxie, who implemented the American "LAW"? Doxie, who wrote the amendments? Doxie, who created the American justice system?
Was it blacks? Is that what you're saying?
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Troll Patrol,
You don't believe that Whites have a right to living space for ourselves, nor according to you do our children have any right to a future.
You are like a drone. Or indoctrinated individual with no valid argument. So you keep repeating this mantra as if it is the omniscient truth. LOL SHM
Where in America (or anywhere else )whites don't have space? How does this apply to Americas geography and demography. LOL
What indicates that white children have no future? lol What are blacks doing to permit whites (children) from having "a future"?
quote:Is the dramatic rise in autism tapering off?
The theory holds that the CDC has covered up vital data and committed fraud. It’s based on concerns that a CDC scientist, William Thompson, raised about a study that he and several colleagues published in the journal Pediatrics in 2004.
Thompson, who has been hailed in the anti-vaccine community as a whistleblower, has said he believes the study omitted data that would have shown a link between a certain vaccine and autism in certain African-American boys.
That’s right. “Vaxxed” promotes the unsubstantiated claim that the CDC covered up crucial data about a purported link between vaccines and autism.
Here’s the backstory: One of the CDC researchers who co-authored a 2004 study that found no link between vaccines and autism harbored concerns about the way the analysis was conducted.
A decade later, he shared his concerns with the anti-vaccine activist Brian Hooker, who along with Wakefield began to promote the idea of a coverup.
As the conspiracy theory grew, the CDC researcher, William Thompson, came forward with a public statement. He said he wanted to make “absolutely clear” that he believes vaccines save lives and that he would never advise a parent not to vaccinate. Yet he said data had been omitted from the study that would have showed an increased risk for autism among African-American boys who received the MMR vaccine before age 3.
[...]
Those are serious accusations. Could it be fraud?
There’s no reason to think so. Let’s go through the many problems with the conspiracy theory.
Nobody has produced evidence that the CDC covered up anything. The CDC makes the raw data from the study available to researchers to analyze, and no credible scientists have raised an alarm.
There’s also no compelling biological explanation why African-American boys would be the only group at increased risk for autism. The smaller the subgroup you’re analyzing, the more likely you are to stumble across false positives.
Hooker, the anti-vaccine activist, did his own analysis of the raw data, looking at all African-American kids, not just those with Georgia birth certificates. He found that black boys who were vaccinated before age 3 were 3.4 times more likely to have autism than those who weren’t. The journal Translational Neurodegeneration published his study, then quickly retracted it, citing concerns about Hooker’s “competing interests” and the validity of his methods and statistics.
To you the above is the absolute normality.
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Troll Patrol,
You yourself said that Whites should be mixed into extinction (genocide).
Doxie, again, the discussion back then was hypothetical.
The question addressed was:
"What is worse whites creating unjust systems to rid POC, or mix with POC. Your proposal is what exactly...?"
However, still no answer till this day. Only the same repetitive crazy rant, we can read all over the forum.
Anyway, I said, you will remain human after all if you mix with POC.
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Troll Patrol,
You have a problem with a few Whites being in Africa (even though they are being slaughtered like cattle there,being denied an education for White children, not allowed to own a business,being denied employment for being White,having no charities to help if you are poor & White,being denied medical care even if critically injured or critically ill for being White) ...
This was a crazy long windy sentence with no breaks.lol But all stupidity as usually.
There are just as many whites in Africa as there are blacks in Africa. There are more whites in "POC countries' than there are POC's in "white countries". LOL
It just happens that the bulk of whites in Africa lives in Southern Africa, due to colonialism, where they denied indigenous people their rights and slaughtered them like cattle. And from a capital perspective whites still rule over these people with nifty racist systems, which they inherited from their racist ancestors. So there goes your argument: "not allowed to own business", out off the window, down the drain into the sewer, where it belongs.
And I don't see how whites are being denied access to education. It's the first time I heard of this EVER!!! If anything it was white rule who did this to blacks in South Africa. Speaking of being denied medical care, these POC children were shot at by armed policemen and sometimes killed. There are documentaries on this. lol
Due to these previous racist policies by whites, creating Townships, South Africa became marginalized in poverty. This poverty led to high crime rates. This high crime rate is now on everybody in South Africa, including whites in South Africa. Yes, whites are not excluded. Meaning the crime rate in general is high in South Africa, due to prior policies by whites.
So, let's read some more about white supremacy around the globe and what it has caused.
quote:"Apartheid educational policies condemned black South Africans to a severely overcrowded school system with educational policies designed to limit achievement.”
--Anthony Appiah, Henry Louis Gates
Encyclopedia of Africa (2010)
quote: Hector Pieterson (1964 – June 16, 1976) became the iconic image of the 1976 Soweto Uprising in apartheid South Africa when a news photograph by Sam Mzima of the dying Hector being carried by a fellow student, was published around the world. He was killed at the age of 12 when the police opened fire on protesting students.
--Sam Mzima
June 16, 1976
National Archive of South Africa. Permission granted in terms of Section 1(xiv) of the National Archives of South Africa Act, 1996 (Act No.43 of 1996).
quote:Apartheid was a system of government in South Africa, abolished in 1994, which systematically separated groups on the basis of race classification. The Apartheid system of racial segregation was made law in South Africa in 1948, when the country was officially divided into four racial groups, White, Black, Indian and Coloureds (or people of mixed race, or non-Whites who did not fit into the other non-White categories). ‘Homelands’ were created for Blacks, and when they lived outside of the homelands with Whites, non-Whites could not vote and had separate schools and hospitals, and even beaches where they could swim or park benches they could sit on.
A Brief History of Educational Inequality from Apartheid to the Present
quote: The Apartheid system created educational inequalities through overt racist policies (see timeline). The Bantu Education Act of 1952 ensured that Blacks receive an education that would limit educational potential and remain in the working class (UCT).
quote: With the enactment of apartheid laws in 1948, racial discrimination was institutionalized. Race laws touched every aspect of social life, including a prohibition of marriage between non-whites and whites, and the sanctioning of ``white-only'' jobs.
Black youth in apartheid South Africa were deprived of their youthfulness. They were forced to bear the brunt of poverty, inferior education, lack of adequate recreation facilities and repression from the state.”
[...]
During the last few centuries its main manifestation has been as a system of belief that justified the subjugation and enslavement of the indigenous peoples of the Americas, Asia and Africa by countries of Western Europe starting around 1500.
quote:"In 1953 the government passed the Bantu Education Act, which the people didn't want. We didn't want this bad education for our children. This Bantu Education Act was to make sure that our children only learnt things that would make them good for what the government wanted: to work in the factories and so on; they must not learn properly at school like the white children. Our children were to go to school only three hours a day, two shifts of children every day, one in the morning and one in the afternoon, so that more children could get a little bit of learning without government having to spend more money. Hawu! It was a terrible thing that act."
--Baard and Schreiner, My Spirit is Not Banned, Part 2
quote:Apartheid was a system of government in South Africa, abolished in 1994, which systematically separated groups on the basis of race classification. *The Apartheid system of racial segregation was made law in South Africa in 1948*, when the country was officially divided into four racial groups, White, Black, Indian and Coloureds (or people of mixed race, or non-Whites who did not fit into the other non-White categories). ‘Homelands’ were created for Blacks, and when they lived outside of the homelands with Whites, non-Whites could not vote and had separate schools and hospitals, and even beaches where they could swim or park benches they could sit on.
This is your history there, this is what you are known for doing, this to you is justice and right, this brings joy and happiness to you:
What have we learned today, Doxie. You should not talk about stuff and people, you know very little about.
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Troll Patrol,
...but yet have no problem with Blacks & other POC like yourself trying to take over Europe (which of course you try to claim the history and ownership of claiming we have no history,homeland,etc).
When and where did this happen? LOL SMH
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Troll Patrol, ...Talk to me when you can go to a city in Any African country and play spot the Negro like you can play spot the cracka in London,Paris,etc.
England and has a history of colonialism, the people who they colonized have a tendency to go over to London. Paris is the same etc.... What is etc? lol
Your education on world history is terrible. Your world view is distorted and disgruntled.
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Troll Patrol, You don't want equality, you want Blacks on top & Whites on the very bottom. BTW, Whites have a right to White supremacy in Europe its our land.
Whites have white supremacy in Europe, correct. Thanks for admitting that one. LOL SMH
Now, let's talk about America, Africa, Asia (Australia)... See how your theory fits there.
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Troll Patrol,
Lie again, you only care about Blacks & other POC. You hete Whites & view Blacks as superior & Whites as inferior just as Mike,Clyde,Kdolo,MOM,Zarahan,Mena7,Xy-YT-hater do.
You have a problem with a few Whites being in Africa...blah blah blah...
"Nelson Mandela's arrest in 1962 came as a result of a tip-off from an agent of the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), a report says.
quote: The revelations, made in the Sunday Times newspaper, are based on an interview with ex-CIA agent Donald Rickard shortly before he died.
Mandela served 27 years in jail for resisting white minority rule before being released in 1990.
He was subsequently elected as South Africa's first black president.
Rickard, who died earlier this year, was never formally associated with the CIA but worked as a diplomat in South Africa before retiring in the late 70s.
The interview was conducted by British film director John Irvin, who has made a film, Mandela's Gun, about his brief career as an armed rebel, the Sunday Times said.
Murky events: Karen Allen, BBC Southern Africa Correspondent, Johannesburg
The events leading up the the arrest of Nelson Mandela, on a dark night near Durban in 1962, have always been murky. In the era of Cold War politics, Mandela, then leader of the armed wing of the African National Congress (ANC), was considered a terrorist and a threat to the West.
As Mr Rickard put it, he was "the most dangerous communist" outside of the Soviet Union, although Mandela always denied being a member of the party.
Rumours have circulated for years that the CIA trailed Mandela but the agency resisted previous attempts to shine a light on its alleged involvement in his arrest. Rickard's admission will bring renewed pressure to declassify documents from the time.
The ANC's spokesman Zizi Kodwa said he believed the CIA was still meddling in South African affairs and collaborating with those wanting "regime change". line break
The future president led the armed resistance movement of the banned ANC, and was one of the most wanted men in South Africa at the time of his arrest.
His ability to evade the security services had earned him the nickname "the black Pimpernel".
He was posing as a chauffeur when his car was stopped at a roadblock by the police in the eastern city of Durban in 1962 and he was detained.
"I found out when he was coming down and how he was coming... that's where I was involved and that's where Mandela was caught," Rickard is quoted as saying.
ANC national spokesperson Zizi Kodwa said: "That revelation confirms what we have always known, that they are working against [us], even today.
"It's not thumb sucked, it's not a conspiracy [theory]. It is now confirmed that it did not only start now, there is a pattern in history."
Mandela, president of South Africa from 1994 to 1999, was on a US terror watch list until 2008.
Before that, along with other former ANC leaders, he was only able to visit the US with special permission from the secretary of state, because the ANC had been designated a terrorist organisation by the former apartheid government.
Save your stupid commentary.
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Troll Patrol,
You believe that Whites have no right to self knowledge,self determination,self rulership,.
Full circle. Here is a thread providing you sources to the right to"self-knowledge, self-determination, self-rulership".
quote: By ~6,000–5,000 years ago, farmers throughout much of Europe had more hunter-gatherer ancestry than their predecessors, but in Russia, the Yamnaya steppe herders of this time were descended not only from the preceding eastern European hunter-gatherers, but also from a population of Near Eastern ancestry. Western and Eastern Europe came into contact ~4,500 years ago, as the Late Neolithic Corded Ware people from Germany traced ~75% of their ancestry to the Yamnaya, documenting a massive migration into the heartland of Europe from its eastern periphery. This steppe ancestry persisted in all sampled central Europeans until at least ~3,000 years ago, and is ubiquitous in present-day Europeans. These results provide support for a steppe origin9 of at least some of the Indo-European languages of Europe.
--Wolfgang Haak, Iosif Lazaridis, Nick Patterson, Nadin Rohland, Swapan Mallick, Bastien Llamas, Guido Brandt, Susanne Nordenfelt, Eadaoin Harney, Kristin Stewardson, Qiaomei Fu, Alissa Mittnik, Eszter Bánffy, Christos Economou, Michael Francken, Susanne Friederich, Rafael Garrido Pena, Fredrik Hallgren, Valery Khartanovich, Aleksandr Khokhlov, Michael Kunst, Pavel Kuznetsov, Harald Meller, Oleg Mochalov, Vayacheslav Moiseyev et al..
Massive migration from the steppe was a source for Indo-European languages in Europe
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: "Nelson Mandela's arrest in 1962 came as a result of a tip-off from an agent of the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), a report says.
quote: The revelations, made in the Sunday Times newspaper, are based on an interview with ex-CIA agent Donald Rickard shortly before he died.
Mandela served 27 years in jail for resisting white minority rule before being released in 1990.
He was subsequently elected as South Africa's first black president.
Rickard, who died earlier this year, was never formally associated with the CIA but worked as a diplomat in South Africa before retiring in the late 70s.
The interview was conducted by British film director John Irvin, who has made a film, Mandela's Gun, about his brief career as an armed rebel, the Sunday Times said.
Murky events: Karen Allen, BBC Southern Africa Correspondent, Johannesburg
The events leading up the the arrest of Nelson Mandela, on a dark night near Durban in 1962, have always been murky. In the era of Cold War politics, Mandela, then leader of the armed wing of the African National Congress (ANC), was considered a terrorist and a threat to the West.
As Mr Rickard put it, he was "the most dangerous communist" outside of the Soviet Union, although Mandela always denied being a member of the party.
Rumours have circulated for years that the CIA trailed Mandela but the agency resisted previous attempts to shine a light on its alleged involvement in his arrest. Rickard's admission will bring renewed pressure to declassify documents from the time.
The ANC's spokesman Zizi Kodwa said he believed the CIA was still meddling in South African affairs and collaborating with those wanting "regime change". line break
The future president led the armed resistance movement of the banned ANC, and was one of the most wanted men in South Africa at the time of his arrest.
His ability to evade the security services had earned him the nickname "the black Pimpernel".
He was posing as a chauffeur when his car was stopped at a roadblock by the police in the eastern city of Durban in 1962 and he was detained.
"I found out when he was coming down and how he was coming... that's where I was involved and that's where Mandela was caught," Rickard is quoted as saying.
ANC national spokesperson Zizi Kodwa said: "That revelation confirms what we have always known, that they are working against [us], even today.
"It's not thumb sucked, it's not a conspiracy [theory]. It is now confirmed that it did not only start now, there is a pattern in history."
Mandela, president of South Africa from 1994 to 1999, was on a US terror watch list until 2008.
Before that, along with other former ANC leaders, he was only able to visit the US with special permission from the secretary of state, because the ANC had been designated a terrorist organisation by the former apartheid government.
But people try to make J Edgar out to be the main evil guy. In fact, it was the Kennedys that ordered around the clock surveillance on King, and gave Hoover scope to harass the civil rights leader. JFK was embarrassed internationally about his image during the Cold War because civil rights disruptions and marches made him look bad- a fraud or hypocrite - a charge oft leveled by the Soviet Union and by some black activists. Credible biographers like David Garrow show it was the unglamorous Lyndon Johnson, not the glamor boy Kennedys, that really got the ball moving on civil rights as a national priority. Johnson refused to drag his feet like the Kennedys and pushed through the legislative side of the Civil Rights reforms. Johnson was no saint, and was a sometimes corrupt wheeler-dealer, and his mistakes and illusions about Vietnam are well documented, but he did a hell of a lot more for civil rights that the Kennedys.
" J. Edgar leads us to believe that all of this voyeurism came at the instigation of Hoover. But the date of October 10, 1963, offers a different narrative: that was when Attorney General Robert Kennedy, angered by King's recalcitrance to comply with the president's demand to oust Levison, ordered Hoover to have bureau agents wiretap King's telephones, including the one in the preacher's Atlanta home.
"I asked the FBI to make an intensive investigation of Martin Luther King," Robert Kennedy later privately acknowledged to journalist Anthony Lewis, "to see who his companions were and, also, to see what other activities he was involved in. This is also the reason that President Kennedy and I and the Department of Justice were so reserved about him, which I'm sure he felt. We never wanted to get close to him just because of these contacts and connections that he had, which we felt were damaging to the civil rights movement and because we were so intimately involved in the struggle for civil rights, it also damaged us. It damaged what we were trying to do." Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
@ Zarahan, ^Those demons invested a lot of time and effort in that wickedness.
Posted by CelticWarrioress (Member # 19701) on :
Troll Patrol,
Everything I said was true. Whites are not allowed to own businesses in SA, if they want to then they have to give 51% of it to a Black. This was told to me by someone who lives there. Yes White children in SA are denied an education. Black children in SA don't have to pay to go to school,where as White children do,so if their White parents can't afford to pay then the children don't go. Yeah yeah Troll Patrol keep blaming Whitey for your violent tendencies, fact is these White men,women,elders,children,infants weren't targeted randomly,they are targeted because they are White. Feast your eyes on your peoples handiwork http://ajkraad.wix.com/genocide-museum#!. Sorry but your effort to instill White guilt in me doesn't work, I feel no guilt sorry special snowflake.
Whites don't have living space because of you invading & trying to take over our land. Name me one,just one country in Europe or elsewhere that is 100% White troll Patrol. What kind of future is being taught that by vitue of being born White you are a bad,wicked,evil,racist who's mere life oppresses POC.
We have the right to have supremacy in Europe, its our land. Ohhh wait that's right you don't believe Whites are indigenous to anywhere on earth ie have no homeland. Just as you believe Whites are inferior & have no history. Sorry Troll Patrol I believe nothing an Anti-White spouts without proof. Where's the dang proof, where's the skeletons,where's the depictions,there's no dang proof. Therefore you are not trying to give Whites knowledge of self with your Anti-White "sources" & of course I see you couldn't resist putting in an attack on Whites in there. Yes we would still be humans if we mixed but Whitey would be gone no more White people, Whitey extinct & that's What you want. My proposition is separation.
Posted by kdolo (Member # 21830) on :
Doxie.
Central Asia has plenty of space.
you all can go back home any time you like.
Posted by CelticWarrioress (Member # 19701) on :
Kdolo,
Whitey hater, cut the crap. That ugly,landlocked,waterless, barren waste land where nothing can be grown & no animals can be raised known as C. Asia is NOT our home, Europe is.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by kdolo: Doxie.
Central Asia has plenty of space.
you all can go back home any time you like.
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Kdolo,
Whitey hater, cut the crap. That ugly,landlocked,waterless, barren waste land where nothing can be grown & no animals can be raised known as C. Asia is NOT our home, Europe is.
He was talking about your "Natural" home Doxie. You know, the place where you and your people "Belong".
Posted by Doug M (Member # 7650) on :
Taking back stolen land and resources from whites in Africa who used all sorts of human rights abuses and crimes against humanity to get those resources is not "oppressing" white people. It is funny how white folks are the first ones to stand up and demand justice and a return of stolen land and property when they are injured. However, when other people are victims, especially blacks, as a result of white theft and oppression, they claim that giving back what was stolen "isn't fair". In other words, white supremacy 101: the only "free and fair" system is where whites own and control everything.
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Troll Patrol,
Everything I said was true. Whites are not allowed to own businesses in SA, if they want to then they have to give 51% of it to a Black. This was told to me by someone who lives there.
LOL Are you dumb. Whites still rule portions the economy in South Africa, despite of reformations, and yes it's slow transactions. And yes you do have deprived whites now, since not everything is handed out to them, like it was during the Apartheid.
Why would I want to believe anything a your white racist friends over there have to say. How long your "friend" lives there? lol
quote: Everyone here, regardless of colour, tells you that white people are still riding high.
They run the economy. They have a disproportionate amount of influence in politics and the media. They still have the best houses and most of the best jobs.
"It is having its effect on whites today, even though they still own a share of South Africa's wealth which is entirely disproportionate," he said...
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Troll Patrol,
Yes White children in SA are denied an education. Black children in SA don't have to pay to go to school,where as White children do,so if their White parents can't afford to pay then the children don't go.
I am not so sure about that. But if so. it likely deals with affirmative action. Since blacks received backwards education for so long. While they've been put in Township for decades. Which created a stimulus of poverty. In the meanwhile whites had it all wonderful. Now some whites can't hang and you cry. You always wanted private schools over there, separate from blacks, right?
Six things white people have that black people don’t 23 Feb 2015
quote: There’s a reason we can’t just “move on” and get over apartheid. Its effects are still very real for black South Africans, writes Verashni Pillay.
Generational wealth
Here’s how this works: most white South Africans’ parents or grandparents were able to buy and own property and businesses or shares in business. They were able to pay off their properties or expand their businesses thanks to preferential treatment and employment.
They were then able to leave the proceeds of this wealth to their children, our contemporaries, as either an inheritance or a financial jump-start in life.
Most black South Africans have no such jump-start. They stand and fall on their own efforts alone and there is very little safety net if they don’t make it. Family wealth is already thinly spread to cover those who have nothing.
When my black friends say they’re broke, it means family debt, circling loan sharks and the horror of truly going under. When my white friends say they’re broke it usually means they may have to dip into their savings or swallow their pride and ask their parents for help.
I won’t be getting any inheritance, a policy that pays out a nice lump sum at some point in my life or a paid-off flat with little or no rent. These are the reserve of those who have had generations to build this kind of wealth and pass it on.
Compared with most other countries, education gets a very large slice of the public pie – around 20% of total state expenditure. It receives the largest share of government spending.
More money is always needed to address the huge backlogs left by 40 years of apartheid education. Under that system, white South African children received a quality schooling virtually for free, while their black counterparts had only "Bantu education", a keystone of the overall apartheid system.
Although today's government is working to rectify the imbalances in education, the apartheid legacy remains. Illiteracy rates currently stand at around 18% of adults over 15 years old (about 9-million adults are not functionally literate), teachers in township schools are poorly trained.
Despite the challenges, much has been achieved since apartheid legislation was scrapped. For example, in 1993 nearly half of all students in higher education institutions were white, but since 1994, black African enrolments have nearly doubled, growing by 91% (or 4.4% a year) and overall enrolments have grown by 41% (or 2.3% a year).
However, South Africa's student participation rate – that is, the proportion of 18- to 24-year olds in higher education – is a low 16%.
Equity has yet to be achieved: almost 58.5% of whites and around 51% of Indians enter higher education. The rate for coloureds is 14.3%, while blacks are even lower at 12%. The reason for this is generally understood as poor quality primary and secondary schooling, which is a priority for the current government.
The greatest challenges for schooling lie in the poorer, rural provinces such as the Eastern Cape and KwaZulu-Natal. Schools are generally better resourced in the more affluent provinces such as Gauteng and the Western Cape.
You pull your **** from nazi propaganda websites, no wonder you come up with all these weird claims.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Black boys and white boys of Tanzania
^ here we have some people black and white, their homeland is Tanzania
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by kdolo: Doxie.
Central Asia has plenty of space.
you all can go back home any time you like.
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Kdolo,
Whitey hater, cut the crap. That ugly,landlocked,waterless, barren waste land where nothing can be grown & no animals can be raised known as C. Asia is NOT our home, Europe is.
He was talking about your "Natural" home Doxie. You know, the place where you and your people "Belong".
realhistory says the homeland of white people, Dravidian albinos is India. Central Asia was only place they migrated to. But according to Dr. Winters the Dravidians are Kushites. In other words the homeland of black and white Caucasoid is Sudan.
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Troll Patrol,
Yeah yeah Troll Patrol keep blaming Whitey for your violent tendencies,
Blame? LOL
Those are historical FACTS! It has little to do with blame. I know it harsh to be confronted with truth.
Soweto Massacre
Today our nation commemorates the 38th anniversary of the student's uprising of June 16, 1976. The student-led protests in Soweto - known as the Soweto Uprising - claimed about 23 lives in Soweto alone on the day of the march. The protests began in Soweto schools and spread across the country. The unrest was a response to the introduction of Afrikaans as the medium of instruction. The SABC spoke to some of the students of the class of 1976 who were at the forefront of the students' march
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Troll Patrol, fact is these White men,women,elders,children,infants weren't targeted randomly,they are targeted because they are White.
These are facts in your delusional mind. Crime is high over all in South Africa. It's not lie only whites die because of crime, as you try to imply.
Here is the deal, and here are the facts!
quote: Are SA whites really being killed “like flies”? Why Steve Hofmeyr is wrong
South African musician Steve Hofmeyr has claimed that the number of white South Africans killed by blacks would fill a soccer stadium, that white Afrikaners are being killed “like flies” and that a white farmer is murdered every five days. But the claims are incorrect and grossly exaggerated. In fact, whites are less likely to be murdered than any other race group.
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Troll Patrol,
Feast your eyes on your peoples handiwork http://ajkraad.wix.com/genocide-museum#!. Sorry but your effort to instill White guilt in me doesn't work, I feel no guilt sorry special snowflake.
I have no idea what you are trying to show here with a self made WIX page. But crime rate in South Africa is high overall. That page is subjective, since it only focuses on one particular group of people. While this affects all south Africans.
I know you don't have white guilt, over the hundreds and thousands of innocents, who have been killed by whites / boers over there throughout the many decades. lol Why don't you tell us something we don't know.
As explained before, poverty is rampant over there, and was created by whites. Yes, boers. In other words, your new is very one sided.
Do I condone the killing of whites, nope. Do I understand it, yes. Do I condone the killing of non-white, nope. Do I understand it, yes.
quote: It is a decade since the exposure of Project Coast, apartheid South Africa's covert chemical and biological warfare program. In that time, attention has been focused on several aspects of the program, particularly the production of narcotics and poisons for use against anti-apartheid activists and the proliferation of both chemical and biological weapons. The eugenic dimension of Project Coast has, by contrast, received scant attention. It is time to revisit the testimony that brought the suggestion of eugenic motives to light, reflect on some of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission's findings and search for lessons that can be taken from this troubled chapter in South Africa's history.
--Singh JA Endeavour. 2008 Mar;32(1):5-9. doi: 10.1016/j.endeavour.2008.01.005. Project Coast: eugenics in apartheid South Africa.
quote: South Africa became a democratic state with a supreme Constitution and Bill of Rights in 1994. Between 1994 and 1996 South Africans drafted a new constitution which came into force in 1997. While, the right to health, as well as socio-economic rights is provided for, the health care system in post-apartheid South Africa still mirrors that which existed during the apartheid years. There are still two health care systems. The poorly funded public sector services the majority, while the well-funded private sector services the privileged few. A lack of resources is blamed by the state for its inability to provide better and more widespread health services. This article examines, from a human rights perspective, the successes and challenges in developing the right to health between 1994 to 1999, and provides an overview of the present state of health in South Africa. This article further examines the constitutional provisions on health, and discusses recent constitutional court decisions relevant to the right to health. New and controversial health laws and regulations, affecting health care professionals, medical aid schemes and the availability of pharmaceuticals, are critiqued. The move to devolving health care to the provinces is described. Also discussed are the controversial steps taken by the Department of Health to restructure health structures and services. Progress on key health issues such as HIV/Aids, tobacco, tuberculosis, polio, measles, hepatitis, malaria and abortion are also described. Attention is focused on the role of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission's health hearings in bringing to light violations of human rights in health during apartheid as well as the recommendations made to address these problems.
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: What kind of future is being taught that by vitue of being born White you are a bad,wicked,evil,racist who's mere life oppresses POC.
Your knowledge of self, I guess.
A Brief History of Educational Inequality from Apartheid to the Present
quote:"Challenging the past and moving beyond the legacy of apartheid" is how the South African Department of Education plans to work towards social justice and equity with the introduction of the new curriculum titled "Curriculum 2005" (Asmal). Eliminating the overt racism in educational policies is the first step in challenging the past, but other factors of social inequalities need to be addressed to minimize the racial inequalities in education for the future.
The Apartheid system created educational inequalities through overt racist policies (see timeline). The Bantu Education Act of 1952 ensured that Blacks receive an education that would limit educational potential and remain in the working class (UCT). This policy directly affected the content of learning to further racial inequalities by preventing access to further education. In addition to content, apartheid legislation affected the educational potential of students. School was compulsory for Whites from age seven to sixteen, for Asians and Coloureds from seven to fifteen, and for Blacks from age seven to thirteen (US Library of Congress). Clearly, the less education students received, the fewer choices they had in the working world and in accessing more education. Since these policies ensured that the content and amount of education perpetuated social inequalities, changing these policies in a post-apartheid era was the logical step towards social equality.
Educational inequality was also evident in funding. The Bantu Education Act created separate Departments of Education by race, and it gave less money to Black schools while giving most to Whites (UCT). Since funding determines the amount and quality of learning materials, facilities, and teachers, disproportionate funding clearly created disparities in learning environments. For instance, Apartheid funding resulted in an average teacher pupil ratio of 1:18 in white schools, 1:24 in Asian schools, 1:27 in Coloured schools, and 1:39 in Black schools (US Library of Congress). Furthermore, the apartheid system also affected the quality of teachers. White schools had 96% of teachers with teaching certificates, while only 15% of teachers in Black schools were certified (Garson). In addition to affecting the quality of education, the Bantu Education Act also resulted in the closure of many learning institutions since it withdrew funding from schools affiliated with religion. Since many church schools provided education for a large number of Blacks, the Black students were the ones most profoundly impacted by the withdrawal of these funds (US Library of Congress). Although the government explained its actions under the premise of separation of church and state, eliminating schools that serve Blacks is an ultimate form of educational injustice.
The policies and funding disparities in schools ensured contrasting access to higher education. Four Afrikaans speaking universities and one English speaking university admitted only Whites, while the other five had restricted admission and segregated classrooms (US Library of Congress). Additionally, there was no financial aid, and banks did not give out loans to Blacks or Coloureds (Knipe-Solomon). This means that even if students could break through working class instruction with under-qualified teachers in overcrowded classrooms, they still faced financial barriers to achieving their academic goals.
Europe has different countries, with each its own autonomy, some countries have a colonial past, so people tend to go there. It has to do with share of commonwealth, you dumbo.
quote: Name me one,just one country in Europe or elsewhere that is 100% White troll Patrol.
I have no idea, I have not visited all European countries. And even if I did, I wouldn't be able to visit all locations or meet each and every single individual. But, again. It was european countries who moved to other continents. So I don't understand you fuss.
But I understand your game and where you're heading at. See, if all whites have to return to Europe. Europe will get overcrowded . All whites from America and Australia and some Latin American countries is 10 to the power of non-western immigrants in Europe. lol
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Troll Patrol,
We have the right to have supremacy in Europe, its our land.
You already wrote this. And it was already responded to.
Question is, what are you still doing in America?
Amerindians have the right to have supremacy in America, its their land.
Even more ironic is that europeans went to every other continent to make the rules based on white supremacy, hence imperialism (capitalist patriarchy). See, nothing you say makes sense. And it never does.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Black boys and white boys of Tanzania
^ here we have some people black and white, their homeland is Tanzania
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by kdolo: Doxie.
Central Asia has plenty of space.
you all can go back home any time you like.
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Kdolo,
Whitey hater, cut the crap. That ugly,landlocked,waterless, barren waste land where nothing can be grown & no animals can be raised known as C. Asia is NOT our home, Europe is.
He was talking about your "Natural" home Doxie. You know, the place where you and your people "Belong".
realhistory says the homeland of white people, Dravidian albinos is India. Central Asia was only place they migrated to. But according to Dr. Winters the Dravidians are Kushites. In other words the homeland of black and white Caucasoid is Sudan.
quote:
Southeast and south Asian populations are also often thought to be derived from the admixture of various combinations of western Eurasians (‘Caucasoids’), east Asians and Australasians. ...
These findings, coupled with the recently discovered presence of haplogroup U in Ethiopia [11], support a scenario in which a northeast African population dispersed out of Africa into India, presumably through the Arabian peninsula, before 50,000 years ago (Figure 2). Other migrations into India also occurred, but rarely from western Eurasian populations. ...
Thus, the ‘caucasoid’ features of south Asians may best be considered ‘pre-caucasoid’— that is, part of a diverse north or north-east African gene pool that yielded separate origins for western Eurasian and southern Asian populations over 50,000 years ago.
--Todd R. Disotell.
Human evolution: The southern route to Asia
Volume 9, Issue 24, 30 December 1999, Pages R925–R928
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
Still remnants from the Apartheid. Horrific white supremacy influences.
quote:The Economics of South African Townships
PRETORIA, August 21, 2014 – Most countries are made up of two distinct geographic areas, one rural, one urban. But South Africa’s landscape also includes townships and informal settlements (T&IS) which makes for large, underdeveloped communities with working-age people desperate for economic opportunity, being spatially disconnected from urban centers that offer better economic prospects.
The report on the “Economics of South African Townships: Special Focus on Diepsloot” explores this unique South African challenge. It finds that about half of South Africa’s urban population lives in T&IS, accounting for 38% of working-age citizens, but home to nearly 60% of its unemployed. With a special focus on Diepsloot, a large township near Johannesburg, the study offers an understanding of the structure of a township economy and identifies the economic realities and choices of those who live there.
