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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sa.html

Ethnic groups:

Arab 90%, Afro-Asian 10%
 
Posted by xyyman (Member # 13597) on :
 
what is an Arab?
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^He,he,he,he:

Indeed - and how will the Albino idiot answer that question?
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^He,he,he,he:

Indeed - and how will the Albino idiot answer that question?

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Looks like the Albino idiot WON'T answer the question.
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
what is an Arab?

Seems they aren't as intelligent as they imply.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
The CIA has it wrong. An Arab is any black person who is currently a citizen of Arab countries

Algeria, Bahrain, the Comoros Islands, Djibouti, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Mauritania, Oman, Palestine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates, and Yemen.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^It took too long for your new understanding to be an Epiphany, so you must have read some of my old stuff. Anyway, it's the result that counts. So on this one issue, you are finally right on something - congratulations!
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
The CIA has it wrong. An Arab is any black person who is currently a citizen of Arab countries

Algeria, Bahrain, the Comoros Islands, Djibouti, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Mauritania, Oman, Palestine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates, and Yemen.

They have it wrong because there is no particular LOOK! Arabs are a composition of many tribes and ethnic groups.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
The CIA has it wrong. An Arab is any black person who is currently a citizen of Arab countries

Algeria, Bahrain, the Comoros Islands, Djibouti, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Mauritania, Oman, Palestine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates, and Yemen.

They have it wrong because there is no particular LOOK! Arabs are a composition of many tribes and ethnic groups.
Arab denotes someone anciently living in, or DERIVED, from the people of the geographic area known as the Arabian peninsula.

Just whom do you think those people are?
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Arab denotes someone anciently living in, or DERIVED, from the people of the geographic area known as the Arabian peninsula.

Just whom do you think those people are?

Never though of it like that before - did you?

Well here is the answer:


THE ARABS - Who is an Arab?

http://realhistoryww.com./world_history/ancient/Misc/True_Negros/The_True_Negro_2.htm


Defining the Arabs - Genetically and Phenotypically

http://realhistoryww.com./world_history/ancient/Misc/Data_dump/Data_dump.htm
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
The CIA has it wrong. An Arab is any black person who is currently a citizen of Arab countries

Algeria, Bahrain, the Comoros Islands, Djibouti, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Mauritania, Oman, Palestine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates, and Yemen.

They have it wrong because there is no particular LOOK! Arabs are a composition of many tribes and ethnic groups.
Arab denotes someone anciently living in, or DERIVED, from the people of the geographic area known as the Arabian peninsula.

Just whom do you think those people are?

In the sense of ancient Arabs that is certainly true, but that is not the reference here.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:


Well here is the answer:


THE ARABS - Who is an Arab?



Defining the Arabs - Genetically and Phenotypically

http://realhistoryww.com./world_history/ancient/Misc/Data_dump/Data_dump.htm


By that definition - the Purest Arabs and probably the closest descendants of the original Arabs, are the people on the Island of Socotra also spelled Soqotra. They are the only people in the world carrying the Basal form of Y-dna haplogroup J.


[/QB]

By whose definition ?

Populations who carry Haplogroup J of frequencies 50% or more:
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Caucasus, Ingush 91.6% (Balanovsky 2011)

Yemen 82.1% (El-Sibai 2009)

India, Iraqi Biradari 75.2% (El-Sibai 2009)

Socotra, off the coast of Yemen, 71.4%. (Cerny 2008)

Syria 54.4% (El-Sibai 2009)

Caucasus, Chechen 77.6% (Balanovsky 2011)

Qatar 66.6% (El-Sibai 2009)

Iraq Arab, Aramaens, Assyrian, Mandean 58.2% (El-Sibai) 2009

Israel Akka, 57.8% (El-Sibai) 2009

Jordan 50.1% (El-Sibai 2009)
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
lioness - you are an idiot, that will never change, so I can only try to educate you - Ass-hole!


A Paragroup is a term used in population genetics to describe lineages within a haplogroup that are not defined by any additional unique markers.

In human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroups, paragroups are typically represented by an asterisk (*) placed after the main haplogroup.

Another example is a member of the Y-DNA haplogroup R (defined by marker M207) may belong to the sub-haplogroup R1 (defined by marker M173) or R2 (defined by marker M124). Individuals with neither of these mutations would be categorised as belonging to haplogroup R* (The BASAL R).

HAPLOGROUP J

Haplogroup J-M304[Phylogenetics 1] is a Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup. It is believed to have evolved in Western Asia. The clade spread from there during the Neolithic, primarily into North Africa, the Horn of Africa, Socotra, the Caucasus, Southeast Europe, Central Asia, Iran, Pakistan and western India.

J-M304 is divided into two main subclades (branches), J1-M267 and J2-M172.

Paragroup J-M304*[Phylogenetics 2] includes all of J-M304 except for J-M267, J-M172 and their subclades. J-M304* is rarely found outside of the island of Socotra, off the coast of Yemen, where it is quite frequent at 71.4%.

lioness - no you see the DIFFERENCE between the BASAL haplogroup and the others?

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Okay - I do admit the bright boys at Wiki don't really know what they are talking about, so it can be confusing.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:


Paragroup J-M304*[Phylogenetics 2] includes all of J-M304 except for J-M267, J-M172 and their subclades. J-M304* is rarely found outside of the island of Socotra, off the coast of Yemen, where it is quite frequent at 71.4%.

lioness - no you see the DIFFERENCE between the BASAL haplogroup and the others?

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Okay - I do admit the bright boys at Wiki don't really know what they are talking about, so it can be confusing. [/QB]

Yes, cocksucker, I know what a paragroup is.

What is your point? That only people of Socotra are Arabs?

stop being stupid, volume 86
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:


Well here is the answer:


THE ARABS - Who is an Arab?



Defining the Arabs - Genetically and Phenotypically

http://realhistoryww.com./world_history/ancient/Misc/Data_dump/Data_dump.htm


By that definition - the Purest Arabs and probably the closest descendants of the original Arabs, are the people on the Island of Socotra also spelled Soqotra. They are the only people in the world carrying the Basal form of Y-dna haplogroup J.



By whose definition ?

Populations who carry Haplogroup J of frequencies 50% or more:
______

Caucasus, Ingush 91.6% (Balanovsky 2011)

Yemen 82.1% (El-Sibai 2009)

India, Iraqi Biradari 75.2% (El-Sibai 2009)

Socotra, off the coast of Yemen, 71.4%. (Cerny 2008)

Syria 54.4% (El-Sibai 2009)

Caucasus, Chechen 77.6% (Balanovsky 2011)

Qatar 66.6% (El-Sibai 2009)

Iraq Arab, Aramaens, Assyrian, Mandean 58.2% (El-Sibai) 2009

Israel Akka, 57.8% (El-Sibai) 2009

Jordan 50.1% (El-Sibai 2009) [/QB]

There is a difference between Hg J1 and J2. J2 is obviously a derivative of J1.


Caucasus, Ingush 91.6% carry J2 (do the math) lol smh


Yemen 82.1% carry J1 (El-Sibai 2009) SMH LOL


Are you honestly claiming that Ingush are of same and or purer stock as Yemen's (derivative)? While J1 is obviously OLDER than J2, with Iranians being intermediate!


quote:
Again, haplogroup J2a4b*-M67(xM92) comprised 51–79% of the Y chromosomes in the Ingush and three Chechen populations (North-East Caucasus, Nakh linguistic group), whereas, in the rest of the Caucasus, its frequency was not higher than 9% (average 3%). Finally, haplogroup J1*-M267(xP58) comprised 44–99% of the Avar, Dargins, Kaitak, Kubachi, and Lezghins (South-East Caucasus, Dagestan linguistic group) but was less than 25% in Nakh populations and less than 5% in the rest of Caucasus.
—Oleg Balanovsky

Parallel Evolution of Genes and Languages in the Caucasus Region

https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/28/10/2905/973568/Parallel-Evolution-of-Genes-and-Languages-in-the


quote:
Population comparisons

Based on FST values, the mitochondrial genetic diver- sity of Soqotra is statistically different (P \ 0.01) from the comparative populations. An MDS plot of FST values shows that the Soqotra sample is clearly distinct from all sub-Saharan, North African, Middle East, and Indian populations (see Fig. 2). High differentiation of the East African groups such as the Sandawe, Hadza, Turu, Datog, and Burunge is shown on the left side of the graph. However, there is a general similarity of the remaining sub-Saharan African populations, particularly

those from the Sahel band and the Chad Basin (with the exception of the Fulani nomads). Subsequently, there is a transitional zone formed by the populations from Ethiopia and the Nile Valley but also by some Yemeni groups, particularly the ones from the eastern parts of the country (Hadramawt). Finally, the cluster on the right part of the graph is composed by the Indian popu- lations on the top, the Near and Middle Eastern groups in the middle and the populations of the Arabian penin- sula at the bottom; Yemeni Jews being slightly different. The only outlier within the region of southwestern Asia is the Kalash sample that is situated on the extreme right part of the graph (see also Quintana-Murci et al., 2004). There is a general cline among all populations in the MDS plot from the Soqotri population to a cluster of Middle East and North African populations that splits into sub-Saharan and Indian populations.

Population differentiation of Soqotra from African, Middle East and Indian populations based on NRY-SNP data manifests a similar picture although the compara- tive populations are different and fewer than in the mi- tochondrial DNA analysis (see Fig. 3). A comparison of FST values shows that the only population that is not significantly different from Soqotra is that from Yemen (P [ 0.01). Similarly to mtDNA MDS plot, we observe a cline from the Soqotri population to a cluster of Middle East and North African populations that splits into sub- Saharan and Indian populations.


Phylogenetic affiliations


Within the Soqotri samples, we identified haplotypes belonging to three of the main branches of the mtDNA phylogeny (macrohaplogroups L, N, and R); notably hap- logroup M is absent (Table 2). There are only two sub- Saharan L haplotypes and they do not carry the 3594HpaI mutation so their classification is L3*; these haplotypes do not contain the specific mutations of L5b (23594HpaI) (Kivisild et al., 2004) and therefore they are possibly L3h2 as they both contain substitutions at 16111, 16184, and 16304 (see Behar et al., 2008). Macro- haplogroup N is represented by three different haplo- types of which only one can be unambiguously classified as N1a (it contains HVS-I motif 16147G-16172-16223-16248-16355). Two other N haplotypes have never been found outside Soqotra (see Table 2).

The most widespread mtDNA types in Soqotra belong to macrohaplogroup R (Table 2). The majority of R haplo- types can be classified as R0a [previously known as (preHV)1]. Three of the R haplotypes have not been previously reported. A network analysis of all Soqotri R0a haplotypes with additional sequences from Africa and Asia (see Fig. 4) shows a time to most recent common ancestor (TMRCA) of 23,339 6 8,232 YBP for R0a. It is shown that the majority of Soqotri R0a haplotypes fall into clade R0a1 (defined by variant 16355) whose TMRCA is 11,418 6 4,198 YBP. Furthermore, within R0a1, the unique Soqotri haplotypes form a new clade that is defined by variant 16172 and that we have named R0a1a1. Abu-Amero et al. (2007) identified a hap- lotype defined by variant 16355 and named it (preHV)1a1, thus it corresponds to R0a1a using the newer nomenclature and the unique Soqotri haplotypes are derived from this lineage). This Soqotri-specific clade has a very young TMRCA (3,363 6 2,378 YBP) that sug- gests the R0a1a1 haplotypes evolved on Soqotra and have not dispersed elsewhere. Two other Soqotri R hap- lotypes are not classified further than R* and are quite common in neighboring populations. Five haplotypes within macrohaplogroup R carry the 4216N1aIII variant that places them in clade JT. Of the JT haplotypes, two are unique to Soqotra; J1b is represented by two individuals and T* is represented by one individual.

The majority of NRY haplotypes in Soqotra belong to haplogroup J (85.7%), with most (45 out of 54) unclassified as J*(xJ1,J2) and a few (the remaining 9 samples) classified as J1 (see Fig. 5). It is interesting to note that NRY haplotypes lacking both M172 and M267, as in our unclassified J*, have not been previously identified on the Arabian Peninsula (Cadenas et al., 2008). Haplogroup E is represented at a frequency of 9.5% and three other haplogroups, F*(xJ,K), K*(xO,P) and R*(xR1b), are present in one individual each. It is worth noting that none of the ancient African haplogroups (A and B) were observed in Soqotra.



—…?
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:


Are you honestly claiming that Ingush are of same and or purer stock as Yemen's (derivative)? While J1 is obviously OLDER than J2, with Iranians being intermediate!


I'm not claiming anything. I listed the percentages of people who carry J
We are not looking for "purer stock" (nice terminology) but who Arabs are. MIke has proposed they are J carriers.

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If you want to say J1 are Arabs not J2, yes some call J1 the Arab marker

The highest frequencies of J1 are in:


Yemen 72.5% (El-Sibai 2009)

Qatar 58.3% (El-Sibai 2009)

Israel, Akka 39.2% (El-Sibai 2009)

Jordan 35.5% (El-Sibai 2009)


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Yemen National Soccer Team
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:


North Sudanese people whooped Arabs asses!

Nevertheless North Sudan became Islamized and Arabized;
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sa.html

Saudi Arabia

Ethnic groups:

Arab 90%, Afro-Asian 10%

DNA tests of Y chromosomes from representative sample of Saudis were analyzed for composition and frequencies of haplogroups, a plurality (42%) belong to Haplogroup J-M267 (J1). Other frequent haplogroups are J-M172 (14%), E1-M2 (8%), R1-M17 (5%) and T-M184 (5%).


Mike what is the percentage of blacks in Saudi Arabia?
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:


Are you honestly claiming that Ingush are of same and or purer stock as Yemen's (derivative)? While J1 is obviously OLDER than J2, with Iranians being intermediate!


I'm not claiming anything. I listed the percentages of people who carry J
We are not looking for "purer stock" (nice terminology) but who Arabs are. MIke has proposed they are J carriers.

______________________________________

If you want to say J1 are Arabs not J2, yes some call J1 the Arab marker

The highest frequencies of J1 are in:


Yemen 72.5% (El-Sibai 2009)

Qatar 58.3% (El-Sibai 2009)

Israel, Akka 39.2% (El-Sibai 2009)

Jordan 35.5% (El-Sibai 2009)


https://i.imgbox.com/LuhTxzUe.png
Yemen National Soccer Team

The retarded one is now showing a soccer team? lol smh

Do tell, what ethic group(-s) (tribe) are they?

You listed J? lol You hideous individual! J1 is not J2! Separate it like you separate Hg E.


Retard I just posted:

quote:
The majority of NRY haplotypes in Soqotra belong to haplogroup J (85.7%)
—…?
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sa.html

Saudi Arabia

Ethnic groups:

Arab 90%, Afro-Asian 10%

DNA tests of Y chromosomes from representative sample of Saudis were analyzed for composition and frequencies of haplogroups, a plurality (42%) belong to Haplogroup J-M267 (J1). Other frequent haplogroups are J-M172 (14%), E1-M2 (8%), R1-M17 (5%) and T-M184 (5%).


Mike what is the percentage of blacks in Saudi Arabia?

People from the North invaded the South for centuries, this shifted the demographic in pheno and genotype, you stupid individual. smh lol


quote:
1872A.D. -On the inhabitants of southwest Arabia in Yemen, “The inhabitants of this part of Arabia nearly all belong to the race of Himyar. Their complexion is almost as black as the Abyssinians,” see p. 121 in “Geography of Southern Arabia”
—Baron von Maltzan, in Proceedings of the Royal Geographical Society of London, Vol. 16, No. 2 , pp. 115-123.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^He,he,he: lioness is quoting CIA factbook (Albino Nonsense book), to identify Arabs.

Damn that fool is stupid!

Nice find Ish Gebor.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Jstor has the Baron von Maltzan book here:


https://www.jstor.org/stable/1798981?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents


If any of you have an account, please post the exact writing.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
]People from the North invaded the South for centuries, this shifted the demographic in pheno and genotype,


the phenotype of what?


quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
[qb]
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:


Are you honestly claiming that Ingush are of same and or purer stock as Yemen's (derivative)? While J1 is obviously OLDER than J2, with Iranians being intermediate!


I'm not claiming anything. I listed the percentages of people who carry J
We are not looking for "purer stock" (nice terminology) but who Arabs are. MIke has proposed they are J carriers.

______________________________________

If you want to say J1 are Arabs not J2, yes some call J1 the Arab marker

The highest frequencies of J1 are in:


Yemen 72.5% (El-Sibai 2009)

Qatar 58.3% (El-Sibai 2009)

Israel, Akka 39.2% (El-Sibai 2009)

Jordan 35.5% (El-Sibai 2009)


https://i.imgbox.com/LuhTxzUe.png
Yemen National Soccer Team

The retarded one is now showing a soccer team? lol smh

Do tell, what ethic group(-s) (tribe) are they?



You have to improve your reading comprehension and not get caught up in emotion.

I listed the high J1 frequencies including Yemen 72.5% and then followed that with a picture of the Yemen National Soccer team.
So obviously I was talking about J1 in particular at that point


quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
You listed J? lol You hideous individual! J1 is not J2! Separate it like you separate Hg E.

You have got to be kidding me.
You were the one who brought up the separation of J1 and J2 and spoke about "purer stock"
I had only been talking about J

You are a very confused individual.

Take a break for a minute and let Professor Mike clear up these issues
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^He,he,he: lioness is quoting CIA factbook (Albino Nonsense book), to identify Arabs.

Damn that fool is stupid!

Nice find Ish Gebor.

Mike, Ish Gebor is spazzing out, getting quite emotional


Some view the term "Arab" as cultural, others biological.
If we look at that percentage from the CIA they say Saudi Arabia is 90% Arab. It's a high percentage of what they call "Arab".

But obviously Saudi Arabia is not 90% black. The percentage must be a lot smaller

So that leads us to a simple question:

what percentage of Saudi Arabia is black?

If you can't find sources start with taking a guess
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Description of the Original Black Arabs
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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
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^Isn't it amazing that in only 145 years, swarming horny Albinos by the millions, could have turned THIS.....
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Into THIS......

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Albinos have done this to the entire Middle East and Latin America - Mulatto Lands!

 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
MIke, this thread is not about Yemen, what percentage of Saudi Arabia is black?
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
MIke, this thread is not about Yemen, what percentage of Saudi Arabia is black?

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Idiot, do you really think anyone is paying any attention to you nonsense?

This thread, and all such threads here, are about demonstrating the pernicious nature of the European Albino.

Who like a genetic parasite, embeds himself in native populations by inbreeding with them, to ensure survival of his defective genes.

But at the same time, uses his powers over everything - including the dissemination of INFORMATION, to hide the origins of his mulattoes.

While simultaneously trying to maintain the lie that the Whiteness (Albinism) of European Albinos makes them superior Humans.

Is it any wonder then that his Mulattoes are rebelling against him? The Mexicans and other Latin Americans are still peaceful - though resentful.

But the Muslim Mulattoes of North Africa, the Middle East, Europe, and West Asia are becoming positively RESTIVE!
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
People, ignore Mike, he has proven to be useless.

Can anyone give us an estimate of what percentage Saudi Arabia is black?
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^Well lioness, looks like you're going to have to do it yourself - good luck.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
This thread, and all such threads here, are about demonstrating the pernicious nature of the European Albino.

Who like a genetic parasite, embeds himself in native populations by inbreeding with them, to ensure survival of his defective genes.

But at the same time, uses his powers over everything - including the dissemination of INFORMATION, to hide the origins of his mulattoes.

While simultaneously trying to maintain the lie that the Whiteness (Albinism) of European Albinos makes them superior Humans.

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Kiesha Battles was dropping off meals to the needy in northwest Charlotte on Thursday, when she discovered a racist note taped to a newspaper delivery tube that stopped her in her tracks. Battles, who is black, said she found the note on a cluster of mailboxes and newspaper delivery tubes while trying to find a home off Sunset Road where she had never delivered meals before. Not sure if the note was connected to the address she was looking for, Battles said she became uncomfortable, put the meal in a mailbox and left. “This is the first thing I encounter when I’m going to help someone?” said Battles, who was making the delivery as part of her weekly route for the nonprofit Friendship Trays.


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^If Albinos did that, their Albino race would disappear, and their females would exclusively turn to dildos.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
I think it's time to debunk some more Albino Myths.
Please see new thread.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
From RH:

Turks Rule Black Lands!

In these pages, we have made every effort to clearly say, and prove, that the White, and White-like, rulers and ruling elite in the former lands of Black civilizations, are not who they claim to be. Specifically; those of Egypt are NOT Egyptians, those of North Africa are NOT Berbers, those of Arabia are NOT Arabs, those of Palestine are NOT Hebrews, those of Lebanon are NOT Phoenicians, those of Iraq are NOT Mesopotamian's, those of Iran are NOT Persians or Elamites, those of Turkey are NOT Anatolians - THEY ARE ALL CENTRAL ASIAN TURKS!
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What happens when Black Arabs rebel?
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
]People from the North invaded the South for centuries, this shifted the demographic in pheno and genotype,


the phenotype of what?


quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
[qb]
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:


Are you honestly claiming that Ingush are of same and or purer stock as Yemen's (derivative)? While J1 is obviously OLDER than J2, with Iranians being intermediate!


I'm not claiming anything. I listed the percentages of people who carry J
We are not looking for "purer stock" (nice terminology) but who Arabs are. MIke has proposed they are J carriers.

______________________________________

If you want to say J1 are Arabs not J2, yes some call J1 the Arab marker

The highest frequencies of J1 are in:


Yemen 72.5% (El-Sibai 2009)

Qatar 58.3% (El-Sibai 2009)

Israel, Akka 39.2% (El-Sibai 2009)

Jordan 35.5% (El-Sibai 2009)


https://i.imgbox.com/LuhTxzUe.png
Yemen National Soccer Team

The retarded one is now showing a soccer team? lol smh

Do tell, what ethic group(-s) (tribe) are they?



You have to improve your reading comprehension and not get caught up in emotion.

I listed the high J1 frequencies including Yemen 72.5% and then followed that with a picture of the Yemen National Soccer team.
So obviously I was talking about J1 in particular at that point


quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
You listed J? lol You hideous individual! J1 is not J2! Separate it like you separate Hg E.

You have got to be kidding me.
You were the one who brought up the separation of J1 and J2 and spoke about "purer stock"
I had only been talking about J

You are a very confused individual.

Take a break for a minute and let Professor Mike clear up these issues

You are a imbecile, this is why you can't answer people's questions.

You tried to make it appear as if the "Caucasus, Ingush 91.6% (Balanovsky 2011)" is similar to J1 found in the Soqotra, with the Ingush being of the same stock and pure.lol

It was another one of your absolute lies!


I asked what ethnic group does that soccer team makes, you retard? Of course you can't respond, what new!
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
People, ignore Mike, he has proven to be useless.

Can anyone give us an estimate of what percentage Saudi Arabia is black?

You have just proven that you are **** for brains!
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
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A bronze statue of Dhamar Ali Yahbur II, a Himyarite King who probably reigned in late 3rd or early 4th century AD. Displayed in Sana'a National Museum.


South Arabian kingdoms

Kingdom of Ma'īn (7th century BCE – 1st century BCE)

Kingdom of Saba (9th century BCE – 275 CE)

Kingdom of Hadhramaut (8th century BCE – 3rd century CE)

Kingdom of Awsān (8th century BCE – 6th century BCE)

Kingdom of Qataban (4th century BCE – 3rd century CE)

Kingdom of Himyar (2nd century BCE – 525 CE)
The Himyarites rebelled against Qataban

Aksumite occupation of Yemen (525 – 570 CE)
a Habasha trading nation in the modern-day area of Eritrea and the Tigray region of Ethiopia.

Sassanid period (570 – 630 CE)
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
People, ignore Mike, he has proven to be useless.

Can anyone give us an estimate of what percentage Saudi Arabia is black?

You have just proven that you are **** for brains!
Stop making useless remarks. T
here is a reasonable question question on the table,
what percentage of Saudi Arabia is black?
I'm taking sourced information or even guesses.

If you are not man enough to handle the question be quiet and let somebody else handle it.
I told you, stop cheerleading and looking for attention. It's shameful
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
People, ignore Mike, he has proven to be useless.

Can anyone give us an estimate of what percentage Saudi Arabia is black?

You have just proven that you are **** for brains!
Stop making useless remarks. T
here is a reasonable question question on the table,
what percentage of Saudi Arabia is black?
I'm taking sourced information or even guesses.

If you are not man enough to handle the question be quiet and let somebody else handle it.
I told you, stop cheerleading and looking for attention. It's shameful

You answer my question before asking questions, brain wreck!


Your demographic rant is useless!

It's like saying what percentage is Native American, that's how dumb you sound!

It is a historical fact that Southern Arabia and Yemen, Oman has been invaded by people from the North, trying to change this historical narrative makes you look like the incompetent idiot you truly are. Posting useless images and typing in stuff you beraly understand.


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Fragment with the head of a man, ist-2nd century C.E.. Found at Qaryat al-Faw. Courtesy Arhtur M. Sackler Gallery


Stop trolling!


http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009106;p=1
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:


It's like saying what percentage is Native American, that's how dumb you sound!


You saying that it's dumb to ask what percentage of the United States is Native American is not dumb of course. It basic demographics. The answer is under 2%. The 2010 census estimated 0.8%

You saying that it's dumb to ask what percentage of the United States is Native American is what's dumb. It's not asking the question that's dumb, it's you who are dumb
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:


It's like saying what percentage is Native American, that's how dumb you sound!


You saying that it's dumb to ask what percentage of the United States is Native American is not dumb of course. It basic demographics. The answer is under 2%. The 2010 census estimated 0.8%

You saying that it's dumb to ask what percentage of the United States is Native American is what's dumb. It's not asking the question that's dumb, it's you who are dumb

Indeed the predictable narrative, selective rant!

I asked you what ethic group(s) those soccer players make up.


I didn't ask you about Native Americans.


However it is a historical fact that foreign people from the North invaded the South of Arabia and Yemen! Go cry a river!
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
The Yemeni soccer players are Arabs obviously, You had to ask me this?
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
The Yemeni soccer players are Arabs obviously, You had to ask me this?

Yemeni soccer players are Arabs obviously? lol At this drivel. Is that the best you can come up with, you dumbass! I asked what ethic group(s), TRIBE(s)?


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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
[qb] The Yemeni soccer players are Arabs obviously, You had to ask me this?

Yemeni soccer players are Arabs obviously? lol At this drivel. Is that the best you can come up with, you dumbass! I asked what ethic group(s), TRIBE(s)?



I posted a picture of the Yemeni National Soccer team and you asked me what etnic group they are I said Arab.
You got your answer, Now you are asking me a n incredibly dumb question what tribes are they.

Now I'm so supposed to go looking up each player and see if they mentioned their tribal affiliation somewhere? You are retarded.

Yemen is 72.5% J1.

It's an Arab country stupid.

And again this thread is about Saudi Arabia, not Yemen, read the title
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
[qb] The Yemeni soccer players are Arabs obviously, You had to ask me this?

Yemeni soccer players are Arabs obviously? lol At this drivel. Is that the best you can come up with, you dumbass! I asked what ethic group(s), TRIBE(s)?



I posted a picture of the Yemeni National Soccer team and you asked me what etnic group they are I said Arab.
You got your answer, Now you are asking me a n incredibly dumb question what tribes are they.

Now I'm so supposed to go looking up each player and see if they mentioned their tribal affiliation somewhere? You are retarded.

Yemen is 72.5% J1.

It's an Arab country stupid.

And again this thread is about Saudi Arabia, not Yemen, read the title

Dumbass, answer my question and stop derailing the topic! If you can't just say you can't, do not pretend as if you know it all.


quote:
The majority of NRY haplotypes in Soqotra belong to haplogroup J (85.7%)
—…?


quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
what is an Arab?

Arabs originated at Yemen.


quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
It's an Arab country stupid.

And again this thread is about Saudi Arabia, not Yemen, read the title

Oh well, debunked again!

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You are a ignorant and arrogant piece of trash!
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
So many accusations going back and forth; we need to establish what is truthful before going on.

quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
You are a ignorant and arrogant piece of trash!

.
Incorrect - lioness is simply a lying troll.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
I posted a picture of the Yemeni National Soccer team and you asked me what etnic group they are, I said Arab.

Yemen is 72.5% J1.

It's an Arab country stupid.

.
the Yemeni National Soccer team is NOT Arab - they are MULATTO - big difference.

Y-dna (J1) is NOT Arab; (J*) is Arab.


There are NO Arab countries - only MULATTO countries.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
CIA the-world-factbook

Saudi Arabia Ethnic groups:

Arab 90%, Afro-Asian 10%

.
For Blacks - accepting and believing Albino data regarding number of Blacks or Browns is abject stupidity. If you cannot verify their numbers, use them only for convenience.

In this case, their lie was TWOFOLD:

First they had established that THIS WAS AN ARAB.
.

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Of course that is a lie, those people are Turks.

.

This was the other lie:

(Arab 90%, Afro-Asian 10%).

Of course Arab and Afro-Asian is the SAME!

TURK is what's different.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
For Blacks - accepting and believing Albino data regarding number of Blacks or Browns is abject stupidity. If you cannot verify their numbers, use them only for convenience.

.
GOOGLE SEARCH - "what percentage of white people owned slaves".
.
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History.com, A&E Television Networks, LLC.
5 Myths About Slavery
May 3, 2016 By Sarah Pruitt

Myth #3: Only a small percentage of Southerners owned slaves.

Closely related to Myth #2, the idea that the vast majority of Confederate soldiers were men of modest means rather than large plantation owners is usually used to reinforce the contention that the South wouldn’t have gone to war to protect slavery. The 1860 census shows that in the states that would soon secede from the Union, an average of more than 32 percent of white families owned slaves. Some states had far more slave owners (46 percent in South Carolina, 49 percent in Mississippi) while some had far less (20 percent in Arkansas).


Vice.com

Blacks were never close to a majority in America, so it's mathematically impossible for most whites to have owned black slaves. At the peak of black slavery in the South, only 6 percent of Southern whites owned slaves. If you include the white people in the North, it means that only 1.4 percent of white Americans owned black slaves at the HEIGHT of slavery.


PBS Online (Public Broadcasting Service).

The standard image of Southern slavery is that of a large plantation with hundreds of slaves. In fact, such situations were rare. Fully 3/4 of Southern whites did not even own slaves; of those (25%) who did, 88% owned twenty or fewer. Whites who did not own slaves were primarily yeoman farmers. Practically speaking, the institution of slavery did not help these people. And yet most non-slaveholding white Southerners identified with and defended the institution of slavery. Though many resented the wealth and power of the large slaveholders, they aspired to own slaves themselves and to join the priviledged ranks. In addition, slavery gave the farmers a group of people to feel superior to. They may have been poor, but they were not slaves, and they were not black. They gained a sense of power simply by being white.


Wikipedia;

By 1860 the slave population in the United States had reached 4 million. Of all 1,515,605 free families in the fifteen slave states in 1860, nearly 400,000 held slaves (roughly one in four, or 25%), amounting to 8% of all American families.


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Recap.

History.com, A&E Television Networks, LLC.
Said 32% of Southern Albinos owned Slaves.
.

Vice.com said 6% of Southern Albinos owned Slaves.
.

PBS Online (Public Broadcasting Service

Said 25% of Southern Albinos owned Slaves.

.

Wikipedia; Said 25% of Southern Albinos owned Slaves.

 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
The following information is taken from:

https://www.census.gov/prod/www/decennial.html

Information about the 1860 Census

Population of the United States in 1860; comp. from the original returns of the Eighth Census...

From 1860 Census: Slaveholders and Slaves by State: Page 223


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SLAVE STATES

Total population = 12,240,000:

White = 8,039,000 - Free Black = 250,000 - Slaves = 3,950,000


Alabama - Slave Holders = 33,700 - Slaves = 435,080
Arkansas - Slave Holders = 11,481 - Slaves = 111,175
Delaware - Slave Holders = 587 - Slaves = 1,798
Florida - Slave Holders = 5,152 - Slaves = 61,745
Georgia - Slave Holders 41,084 - Slaves = 462,198
Kentucky - Slave Holders 38,645 - Slaves = 225,483
Louisiana - Slave Holders 22,033 - Slaves = 331,726
Maryland - Slave Holders 13,783 - Slaves = 87,180
Mississippi - Slave Holders 30,943 - Slaves = 436,631
Missouri - Slave Holders 24,320 - Slaves = 114,931
North Carolina - Slave Holders 31,658 - Slaves = 331,050
South Carolina - Slave Holders 26,701 - Slaves = 402,406
Tennessee - Slave Holders 36,844 - Slaves = 275,710
Texas - Slave Holders 21,878 - Slaves = 182,566
Virginia - Slave Holders 52,128 - Slaves = 400,865

Total Slave Holders = 390,937
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Total number of Albinos in the 15 Slave holding states was 8,039,000

Total number of people owning Slaves (Including Blacks) was: 390,937

Percentage of population owning Slaves was: 8,039,000 divided by 390,937 = 20.56 = 4.86%

So; less than 1 in 20 Albinos owned Slaves!

 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^The above is very important data in that not only does it demonstrate that Albinos will just make sh1t up when discussing Black issues.

But it also demonstrates the Stupidity of the Albino Rabble.

Those Ass-holes were often WORST-OFF then Slaves, yet for the DELUSIONAL pleasure of believing themselves BETTER than Blacks, the Ass-holes did THIS:


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American Civil War
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The American Civil War was an internal conflict fought in the United States from 1861 to 1865. The Union faced secessionists in eleven Southern states grouped together as the Confederate States of America. The Union won the war, which remains the bloodiest in U.S. history.

The war had its origin in the factious issue of slavery, especially the extension of slavery into the western territories. Four years of intense combat left 620,000 to 750,000 soldiers dead, a higher number than the number of American military deaths in World War I and World War II combined, and much of the South's infrastructure was destroyed.


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^Sad, pathetic, aren't they?

But dangerous - Ya don't need much brains to pull a trigger.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

But it also demonstrates the Stupidity of the Albino Rabble.

Those Ass-holes were often WORST-OFF then Slaves, yet for the DELUSIONAL pleasure of believing themselves BETTER than Blacks, the Ass-holes did (The Civil War)

.

This Black Pussy loving man was their president then:
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How's that for Stupid:

Killing; Fighting; and Dying:

So Rich Albino men can enjoy their Black Pussy.

 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
[qb]
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
[qb] The Yemeni soccer players are Arabs obviously, You had to ask me this?

Yemeni soccer players are Arabs obviously? lol At this drivel. Is that the best you can come up with, you dumbass! I asked what ethic group(s), TRIBE(s)?



I posted a picture of the Yemeni National Soccer team and you asked me what etnic group they are I said Arab.
You got your answer, Now you are asking me a n incredibly dumb question what tribes are they.

Now I'm so supposed to go looking up each player and see if they mentioned their tribal affiliation somewhere? You are retarded.

Yemen is 72.5% J1.

It's an Arab country stupid.

And again this thread is about Saudi Arabia, not Yemen, read the title

Dumbass, answer my question and stop derailing the topic! If you can't just say you can't, do not pretend as if you know it all.


quote:
The majority of NRY haplotypes in Soqotra belong to haplogroup J (85.7%)
—…?


quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
what is an Arab?

Arabs originated at Yemen.


quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
It's an Arab country stupid.

And again this thread is about Saudi Arabia, not Yemen, read the title

Oh well, debunked again!

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^^^ This debunks what?

That right, you don't know
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
So many accusations going back and forth; we need to establish what is truthful before going on.

quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
You are a ignorant and arrogant piece of trash!

.
Incorrect - lioness is simply a lying troll.

This is my thread. Therefore you and Ish Gebor are the Trolls
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
I posted a picture of the Yemeni National Soccer team and you asked me what etnic group they are, I said Arab.

Yemen is 72.5% J1.

It's an Arab country stupid.

.
the Yemeni National Soccer team is NOT Arab - they are MULATTO - big difference.

Y-dna (J1) is NOT Arab; (J*) is Arab.


There are NO Arab countries - only MULATTO countries.

This is probably what Ish Gebor thinks
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
So how accurate was Albino data about Black people?

quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Recap.

History.com, A&E Television Networks, LLC.
Said 32% of Southern Albinos owned Slaves.
.

Vice.com said 6% of Southern Albinos owned Slaves.
.

PBS Online (Public Broadcasting Service

Said 25% of Southern Albinos owned Slaves.

.

Wikipedia; Said 25% of Southern Albinos owned Slaves.


quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

Percentage of population owning Slaves was: 8,039,000 divided by 390,937 = 20.56 = 4.86%

Only LESS than 4.86% of Albinos in the Slave holding states owned Slaves!

That means that less than 1 in 20 Albinos owned Slaves!


So you are saying that certain white people greatly exaggerate the number of whites that owned slaves to make white people seem more racist than they actually were?
Let us know what your point is
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
So you are saying that certain white people greatly exaggerate the number of whites that owned slaves to make white people seem more racist than they actually were?
Let us know what your point is

.
My point is very simple, it is just like when I was a kid, we were taught that you Albinos went to Africa and TOOK Black Slaves.

Of course the truth is that you went to Africa and BOUGHT Black Slaves from brain dead Africans.

Another example is the Albino lies about the demographics of the U.S.

Demography of the United States
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Blacks = 37,685,848 or 12.2 %

Whereas my own calculations using data from the 2008, 2012, 2016, elections proves that the Black population of the United States is approximately 75 million or about 25% of the total population.

So why did you Albinos lie about how you got Black Slaves, or how many of you owned Slaves, or what percentage of the total population you are????

SIMPLE - TO MAKE YOURSELVES SEEM MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU REALLY ARE!

 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^The lack of real numerical Albino strength, is probably why, rather than trying Trump for treason, it's okay by the Albino Rabble that he cosied-up to our erstwhile enemies the Russians. The seeming feeling being that they are more dependably RACIST than Europeans.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:


Demography of the United States
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Blacks = 37,685,848 or 12.2 %

Whereas my own calculations using data from the 2008, 2012, 2016, elections proves that the Black population of the United States is approximately 75 million or about 25% of the total population.


So what is your estimate on the number of whites?
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:


Demography of the United States
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Blacks = 37,685,848 or 12.2 %

Whereas my own calculations using data from the 2008, 2012, 2016, elections proves that the Black population of the United States is approximately 75 million or about 25% of the total population.


So what is your estimate on the number of whites?
.
Here are the official Census lies.


https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045216/00


Make adjustments as you see fit.
.

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Here is an interesting one:

CENSUS BUREAU

Race and Hispanic Origin

White alone, percent, July 1, 2015, (V2015) (a)
77.1%

Ha,ha,ha,ha:

Albinos are almost 80% (77.1%) of the U.S. population!

 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^Interestingly though:

When you take into consideration that almost all Mulatto ethnicity's declare themselves White on the census, as do some Blacks;

Then our numbers aren't that far off:

I say 25%

Their number would be 22.9%
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Demography of the United States
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Non-Hispanic White 196,817,552 63.7 %

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Pew Research Center


Millennials, young adults born after 1980, are the new generation to watch. They have likely surpassed Baby Boomers (born 1946-1964) as the largest U.S. generation and differ significantly from their elders in many ways. They are the most racially diverse generation in American history: 43% of Millennial adults are non-white, the highest share of any generation.


All Albino sources have their share of lies and bullsh1t. Use with caution.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
So you're afraid to give your own estimate on the white population?
We have to know what we are dealing with
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^Must you always play the Ass?
 
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
 
quote:
This is probably what Ish Gebor thinks
.

The term "mulatto" meaning "little mule" means technically "an individual who has one parent black and the other parent white.

It is very doubtful that Arabs derive similar circumstances. Most likely, persons that seem to share the same phenotype as mulattos are merely reflective of groups evolving in particular environments subject to the impact of genetic drift and the pressures of natural selection.

Clearly, if Africans and Europeans and East and South Asians evolved independently, then why not for groups that seem to the naive eye to be intermediate to any 2 other groups? Flora and fauna reflect the same biological principle at work.

Between grasses and trees, there are all kinds of intermediate vegetation that are not hybrids of grasses and trees.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
^ I try to tell Mike this but he can't understand it


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If being at a southern latitude, further away from the equator's high UV levels gives Africans a lighter skin tone than if you go North away form the equator the same thing happens, obviously, dark skin is not necessary there

Mike acts like there are two races and the rest are due to mixing of the two. He's simple like that
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
The term "mulatto" meaning "little mule" means technically "an individual who has one parent black and the other parent white.

It is very doubtful that Arabs derive similar circumstances. Most likely, persons that seem to share the same phenotype as mulattos are merely reflective of groups evolving in particular environments subject to the impact of genetic drift and the pressures of natural selection.

Clearly, if Africans and Europeans and East and South Asians evolved independently, then why not for groups that seem to the naive eye to be intermediate to any 2 other groups? Flora and fauna reflect the same biological principle at work.

Between grasses and trees, there are all kinds of intermediate vegetation that are not hybrids of grasses and trees.

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Two Albinos pretending to be Black, sounding quite serious in discussing the evolution of Mulattoes.

I say everyone is laughing:

May we have some input please, as to whether or not you're laughing at these two fools.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
Clearly, if Africans and Europeans and East and South Asians evolved independently

.
Am I the only one that's insulted that this fool would direct such a stupid comment to me?
 
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
 
Mike you are old, dumb and senile--with your sclerosed and congealed brain.

Every issue for you has some kind of binary answer. Either one agrees with dumbass Mike or one is "albino".

What a confounded jackass who doesn't know how to reason.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
damn, lamin administered a beatdown on Professor Mike
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
Every issue for you has some kind of binary answer. Either one agrees with dumbass Mike or one is "albino".

.
No Faking, lying person, it's not about agreeing with me, it's about agreeing with the EVIDENCE. This is what I base my opinions and Pronouncements on.....


Scientific method
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The scientific method is a body of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge. To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry is commonly based on empirical or measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning.

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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
Clearly, if Africans and Europeans and East and South Asians evolved independently

.
So when a fool like you says something like this:

I know either that fool is lying to allow himself to make a race-lie point, or he is a total idiot. I say you're both.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^As a point of understanding:

The Scientific method process is what I used to determine that European Albinos were derived from Indian Dravidians.

Once I was able to obtain pictures of Dravidian Albinos, it was Confirmed.
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However xyyman brought up the Claim that by virtue of the Y-dna R1b haplogroup found in "Many" Western Europeans and Africans, but NOT in South Indians, he felt Europeans were derived from AFRICAN Albinos.

It's a fact that NOT All European Albinos have So-called Caucasian features:

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Adherence to the Scientific method process required a rethinking of the original pronouncement.

Simply melding known history with the physical data yielded the result that though MOST European Albinos are derived from Indian Dravidians:

It is inescapable that "SOME" European Albinos are derived from Negroid Africans - not to mention those admixed from the two types.
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
[qb]
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
[qb] The Yemeni soccer players are Arabs obviously, You had to ask me this?

Yemeni soccer players are Arabs obviously? lol At this drivel. Is that the best you can come up with, you dumbass! I asked what ethic group(s), TRIBE(s)?



I posted a picture of the Yemeni National Soccer team and you asked me what etnic group they are I said Arab.
You got your answer, Now you are asking me a n incredibly dumb question what tribes are they.

Now I'm so supposed to go looking up each player and see if they mentioned their tribal affiliation somewhere? You are retarded.

Yemen is 72.5% J1.

It's an Arab country stupid.

And again this thread is about Saudi Arabia, not Yemen, read the title

Dumbass, answer my question and stop derailing the topic! If you can't just say you can't, do not pretend as if you know it all.


quote:
The majority of NRY haplotypes in Soqotra belong to haplogroup J (85.7%)
—…?


quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
what is an Arab?

Arabs originated at Yemen.


quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
It's an Arab country stupid.

And again this thread is about Saudi Arabia, not Yemen, read the title

Oh well, debunked again!

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^^^ This debunks what?

That right, you don't know

What it debunks? The topic is about Saudi Arabia, right? [Big Grin]


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Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
To but the above in perspective:


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Head of a Syrian
KhM 3896a
TILE; RAMESSES III/USERMAATRE-MERIAMUN

1186–1155 BC

http://www.globalegyptianmuseum.org/record.aspx?id=4906


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Head of a Beduin from Syria
KhM 3896b
TILE; RAMESSES III/USERMAATRE-MERIAMUN


1186–1155 BC

http://www.globalegyptianmuseum.org/record.aspx?id=4907


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Head of a Beduin from Syria
KhM 3896c
TILE; NEW KINGDOM


c. 1550 BC – c. 1077 BC

http://www.globalegyptianmuseum.org/record.aspx?id=4908


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Above ancient Syrian

A Syrian mercenary drinking beer in the company of his Egyptian wife and child, c. 1350 BC. Photograph: Bettmann/Corbis


http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2010/oct/27/old-ale-beer-history


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Above ancient Philistine


[Roll Eyes]


To but the above in perspective:

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Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
CIA the-world-factbook

Saudi Arabia Ethnic groups:

Arab 90%, Afro-Asian 10%

.
For Blacks - accepting and believing Albino data regarding number of Blacks or Browns is abject stupidity. If you cannot verify their numbers, use them only for convenience.

In this case, their lie was TWOFOLD:

First they had established that THIS WAS AN ARAB.
.

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.

Of course that is a lie, those people are Turks.

.

This was the other lie:

(Arab 90%, Afro-Asian 10%).

Of course Arab and Afro-Asian is the SAME!

TURK is what's different.

This is the author, I mean is he serious or was it meant as sarcasm?


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quote:
The majority of NRY haplotypes in Soqotra belong to haplogroup J (85.7%)
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Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
^ I try to tell Mike this but he can't understand it


https://i.imgbox.com/WgtC3ng2.png


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https://i.imgbox.com/LKIKOC2M.png


If being at a southern latitude, further away from the equator's high UV levels gives Africans a lighter skin tone than if you go North away form the equator the same thing happens, obviously, dark skin is not necessary there

Mike acts like there are two races and the rest are due to mixing of the two. He's simple like that

Well, actually you have been spinning this theory yourself for many years, here on ES.


This is one of the reasons why you can't wrap your head around African diversity.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:


This is one of the reasons why you can't wrap your head around African diversity.

The topic is Saudi Arabia, clown
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:


This is one of the reasons why you can't wrap your head around African diversity.

The topic is Saudi Arabia, clown
Yep, but still it is a fact that you DENIAL AFRICAN DIVERSITY!


Back to Saudi Arabia for you, clown, negresse.


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Since this is about Saudi Arabia why did you post on Caucasus, Ingush 91.6% (Balanovsky 2011) ? [Big Grin] [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
To but the above in perspective:


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Head of a Syrian
KhM 3896a
TILE; RAMESSES III/USERMAATRE-MERIAMUN

1186–1155 BC

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Congratulations on using ancient artifacts as evidentiary exhibits in your posts. That will always keep you in good stead (there are at least 6 of them).

However, remember that Albinos are loath to admit that ALL original Levant people were Black. So they often play games with the identity of each people represented by the tiles. Therefore it is best to check many sources, and use the identity provided by the most prestigious source. It really makes no difference - they're all Black.
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 

 
Posted by Thereal (Member # 22452) on :
 
The pic of the black Syrian is interesting as I've seen it before on here,if it wasn't for color the image looks like NBA player Iman shumpert in profile.

https://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/iman-shumpert.jpg
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
Yep, but still it is a fact that you DENIAL AFRICAN DIVERSITY!


Back to Saudi Arabia for you, clown, negresse.



You are an idiot, African diversity is the result of African people going into different places on Africa and adapting to conditions in those places
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
Yep, but still it is a fact that you DENIAL AFRICAN DIVERSITY!


Back to Saudi Arabia for you, clown, negresse.



You are an idiot, African diversity is the result of African people going into different places on Africa and adapting to conditions in those places
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^Ever the degenerate Albino liar!

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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
^ You are merely restating the point over and over again. Diversity in different regions is the result of adaptation to those climates.


There is diversity in a single African village but the people look relatively similar as compared to the much greater degree of difference if you compare Africans from different regions such as Khosians and Nigerians.

Ish Gebor and you have no idea why there is diversity, you just state over and over again that there is diversity as if it's completely random. So no you are not adherents to science and don't believe in evolution. Both of you are crackpots.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
Again, how many blacks are there in Saudi Arabia?

This is not for useless Tike and Ish Geboring
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
Yep, but still it is a fact that you DENIAL AFRICAN DIVERSITY!


Back to Saudi Arabia for you, clown, negresse.



You are an idiot, African diversity is the result of African people going into different places on Africa and adapting to conditions in those places
What you claim here is contrary to your actual believes.


Anyway, this thread is about Saudi Arabia.


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Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
Again, how many blacks are there in Saudi Arabia?

This is not for useless Tike and Ish Geboring

Lyingass,


What is "black" ? [Roll Eyes] [Cool]

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Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:


...

Historical Look at Saudi Arabia


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https://www.aramcoexpats.com/photos/historical-look-at-saudi-arabia-1940s-part-1/
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
I encountered this somewhat interesting article,


The origin of Arabs:

Middle Eastern ethnicity and myth-making

By Peter Webb


http://www.britac.ac.uk/sites/default/files/BAR27-10-Webb-reduced_0.pdf
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^Webb makes many good points as to the concept of an "Arab" people being new - brought on by the successful conquest of foreign lands.

Just like the concept of "European nationalities" being new, brought on by the Industrial revolution and Albino conquests.

Where I find fault is his failure to clearly state that ALL Arabs were Black, not Just Bedouins.

And his failure to clearly state that the Arab "Holy Books" were NOT written by Arabs, but by Albino West Asians.

Examples of which are here:

http://realhistoryww.com./world_history/ancient/Misc/Arab_texts/prologue.htm
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

ALL Arabs were Black


Ish Gebor is this true or false?
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

ALL Arabs were Black


Ish Gebor is this true or false?
When you speak of the original tribes and proto-Arabs then yes.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

ALL Arabs were Black


Ish Gebor is this true or false?
When you speak of the original tribes and proto-Arabs then yes.
Arabs in general not original tribes or proto-Arabs
 
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
 
Great scary movie that should scare the hell out of already scared shitless Negroes.

Albino Farm

College students exploring the Ozark Mountains for a school assignment, stumble upon a group of scary, redneck cave-dwellers.
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

ALL Arabs were Black


Ish Gebor is this true or false?
When you speak of the original tribes and proto-Arabs then yes.
Arabs in general not original tribes or proto-Arabs
Arabs in general arose in the Southern parts. The tribes associated are dark skinned. This is well known in the general consensus. It's not like I am revealing a secret here.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

ALL Arabs were Black


Ish Gebor is this true or false?
When you speak of the original tribes and proto-Arabs then yes.
Arabs in general not original tribes or proto-Arabs
Arabs in general arose in the Southern parts. The tribes associated are dark skinned. This is well known in the general consensus. It's not like I am revealing a secret here.
It's a simple yes or no question. I didn't mention tribes

Again, are all Arabs black?
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

ALL Arabs were Black


Ish Gebor is this true or false?
When you speak of the original tribes and proto-Arabs then yes.
Arabs in general not original tribes or proto-Arabs
Arabs in general arose in the Southern parts. The tribes associated are dark skinned. This is well known in the general consensus. It's not like I am revealing a secret here.
It's a simple yes or no question. I didn't mention tribes

Again, are all Arabs black?

Your statement made no sense: "Arabs in general not original tribes or proto-Arabs", that is the problem here. And you keep shifting the narrative of your question.


You have the Arab and you have the Arabized.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

ALL Arabs were Black


Ish Gebor is this true or false?
When you speak of the original tribes and proto-Arabs then yes.
Arabs in general not original tribes or proto-Arabs
Arabs in general arose in the Southern parts. The tribes associated are dark skinned. This is well known in the general consensus. It's not like I am revealing a secret here.
It's a simple yes or no question. I didn't mention tribes

Again, are all Arabs black?

Your statement made no sense: "Arabs in general not original tribes or proto-Arabs", that is the problem here. And you keep shifting the narrative of your question.


You have the Arab and you have the Arabized.

It's a simple yes or no question

Are all Arabs black?

yes or no ?

explanation of your answer can follow if you want but first

Are all Arabs black?

yes or no ?

Mike said all Arabs are black. Is that true or false, we need to move on
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:

You have the Arab and you have the Arabized.

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Perhaps you would be clearer if you explained what "Arabized" is.

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Wiki:

Arabization or Arabisation describes either the conquest of a non-Arab area and growing Arab influence on non-Arab populations, causing their gradual adoption of the Arabic language and/or their incorporation of Arab culture and Arab identity. The religion of Islam and the associated Islamist (government and society ordered in accordance with laws prescribed by Islam) socio-political order, with their central Quran text written in Arabic language and tailored for Arab culture, had a central role in Arabization, which usually went hand in hand with Islamization of conquered lands.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
I didn't ask who was Arabized.

I asked if Ish Gebor agrees with Mike that all Arabs are Black but Ish Gebor is very timid on giving a yes or no answer to this
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
I didn't ask who was Arabized.

I asked if Ish Gebor agrees with Mike that all Arabs are Black but Ish Gebor is very timid on giving a yes or no answer to this

The history of Arabia is the Arabized and the non-Arabized.

The non-Arabized had dark complexion, sorry to disappoint you.


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quote:
The majority of NRY haplotypes in Soqotra belong to haplogroup J (85.7%)
—…?


Bye.
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
ALL Arabs were Black

Mike most of the world is not Arabized yet, the history of Arabia is of the Arabized and the non-Arabized.

The non-Arabized had dark complexion, sorry to disappoint you.

Ish Gebor's teachings
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^He,he,he,he:

Very SLOOOWLY:

Arabized = Albinos and their Mulattoes (Turks mainly) who want to be FAKE Arabs.

NON-Arabized = REAL ARABS!!!

(Who are of course Black).

lioness - I'm tired of calling you stupid, so please, try to do better.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

lioness - I'm tired of calling you stupid, so please, try to do better.

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lioness - the next two posts are intended to educate you, so that you will no longer be stupid - Please pay attention.

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American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC)

Facts about Arabs and the Arab World

Shakira, Doug Flutie, Kathy Najimy, George Mitchell, Salma Hayek, Spencer AbrahamWho is an Arab?
"Arab" is a cultural and linguistic term. It refers to those who speak Arabic as their first language. Arabs are united by culture and by history. Arabs are not a race. Some have blue eyes and red hair; others are dark skinned; many are somewhere in between. Most Arabs are Muslims but there are also millions of Christian Arabs and thousands of Jewish Arabs, just as there are Muslim, Christian, and Jewish Americans.

What is the Arab World?

The Arab World consists of 22 countries in the Middle East and North Africa: Algeria, Bahrain, the Comoros Islands, Djibouti, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Mauritania, Oman, Palestine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates, and Yemen. Iran and Turkey are not Arab countries and their primary languages are Farsi and Turkish respectively. Arab countries have a rich diversity of ethnic, linguistic, and religious communities. These include Kurds, Armenians, Berbers and others. There are over 300 million Arabs.

What is the Muslim World?

There are an estimated 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. The Organization of Islamic Countries has 55 member states. The ten countries with the largest Muslim population are: Indonesia (170.3 million), Pakistan (136 million), Bangladesh (106 million), India (103 million), Turkey (62.4 million), Iran (60.7 million), Egypt (53.7 million), Nigeria (47.7 million) and China (37.1 million). Of these countries only Egypt is an Arab country. Most Arabs are Muslims, but most Muslims are not Arabs.

Who is a Muslim?

A Muslim is a follower of Islam. (See the separate ADC information sheet on Islam)

What is the Middle East?

The Middle East is a loose term, not always used to describe the same territory. It usually includes the Arab countries from Egypt east to the Persian Gulf, plus Israel and Iran. Turkey is sometimes considered part of the Middle East, sometimes part of Europe. Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh are usually described as South Asia.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
Oghuz Turks - From Wikipedia

The Oghuz, Oguz or Ghuzz Turks were a western Turkic people who spoke the Oghuz languages from the Common branch of Turkic language family. In the 8th century, they formed a tribal confederation conventionally named the Oghuz Yabgu State in central Asia. The name Oghuz is a Common Turkic word for "tribe". By the 10th century, Islamic sources were calling the Muslim, as opposed to shamanist or Christian, Oghuz the Turkmens. By the 12th century this term had passed into Byzantine usage and the Oghuzes were overwhelmingly Muslim.

The Oghuz confederation migrated westward from the Jeti-su area after a conflict with the Karluk branch of Uigurs. The founders of the Ottoman Empire were descendants of the Oghuzes. Today the residents of Turkey, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Khorezm, Turkmens of Afghanistan, Balkans, Iraq and Syria are descendants of Oghuz Turks and their language belongs to the Oghuz (a.k.a. southwestern Turkic) group of the Turkic languages family.

According to the Encyclopædia Britannica, the Balkans are usually said to comprise Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Kosovo,[a] the Republic of Macedonia, Montenegro, Romania, Serbia, Slovenia, while Greece and Turkey are often included.
 
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^As you can clearly see, an Albino calling oneself "Arab" is merely another opportunity for Albinos to play "Make believe" that they have a history, and are more than simply murderous, marauding, Albinos, killing and grabbing whatever they could.

But certainly - THEY ARE NOT ARABS!
 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
SOCATRA PEOPLE


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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
 
^See there lioness:

I try to help you avoid being endlessly called STUPID, by explaining exactly WHO those FAKE Arabs are - using Wiki btw.

And how do you thank me?

By destroying the thread with oversized images.

That's not nice lioness.

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Btw - I assume those Wiki articles revealing the real TURK identity of So-called White Arabs was motivated by me.

As I know of no-one else who has been teaching it for these many years.

And who but I, had to endure the inane comments from the ignorant, when they were told that the nonsense the Albinos was teaching them, was just that - Nonsense!

As a matter of fact lioness - I believe you were one of them.

He,he,he:

No wonder you try to destroy the thread.

 
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
[QB] ^See there lioness:

I try to help you avoid being endlessly called STUPID, by explaining exactly WHO those FAKE Arabs are - using Wiki btw.

And how do you thank me?

By destroying the thread with oversized images.

That's not nice lioness.

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As far as indigenous people living in the peninsula you suggested that people in Socatra (who have lived in relatively isolated circumstances preserving basal J* although also a mixed population of Yemenites, Indians and Africans) were the only Arabs.

You debunked yourself with the quotes indicating "Arab" is a cultural term and it doesn't go back that far.

The pictures I posted were not oversize to cause a scrolling problem, the crying is unnecessary. So you should be thanking me for posting Socatra people, people who you brought up....stupid

However the biological concept that J = Arab is not traditional as per the culture, the difference between "Arabian" and "Arab"
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
Repost,




quote:
Population comparisons

Based on FST values, the mitochondrial genetic diversity of Soqotra is statistically different (P \ 0.01) from the comparative populations. An MDS plot of FST values shows that the Soqotra sample is clearly distinct from all sub-Saharan, North African, Middle East, and Indian populations (see Fig. 2). High differentiation of the East African groups such as the Sandawe, Hadza, Turu, Datog, and Burunge is shown on the left side of the graph. However, there is a general similarity of the remaining sub-Saharan African populations, particularly those from the Sahel band and the Chad Basin (with the exception of the Fulani nomads). Subsequently, there is a transitional zone formed by the populations from Ethiopia and the Nile Valley but also by some Yemeni groups, particularly the ones from the eastern parts of the country (Hadramawt). Finally, the cluster on the right part of the graph is composed by the Indian populations on the top, the Near and Middle Eastern groups in the middle and the populations of the Arabian peninsula at the bottom; Yemeni Jews being slightly different. The only outlier within the region of southwestern Asia is the Kalash sample that is situated on the extreme right part of the graph (see also Quintana-Murci et al., 2004). There is a general cline among all populations in the MDS plot from the Soqotri population to a cluster of Middle East and North African populations that splits into sub-Saharan and Indian populations.

Population differentiation of Soqotra from African, Middle East and Indian populations based on NRY-SNP data manifests a similar picture although the compara- tive populations are different and fewer than in the mi- tochondrial DNA analysis (see Fig. 3). A comparison of FST values shows that the only population that is not significantly different from Soqotra is that from Yemen (P [ 0.01). Similarly to mtDNA MDS plot, we observe a cline from the Soqotri population to a cluster of Middle East and North African populations that splits into sub- Saharan and Indian populations.


Phylogenetic affiliations


Within the Soqotri samples, we identified haplotypes belonging to three of the main branches of the mtDNA phylogeny (macrohaplogroups L, N, and R); notably hap- logroup M is absent (Table 2). There are only two sub- Saharan L haplotypes and they do not carry the 3594HpaI mutation so their classification is L3*; these haplotypes do not contain the specific mutations of L5b (23594HpaI) (Kivisild et al., 2004) and therefore they are possibly L3h2 as they both contain substitutions at 16111, 16184, and 16304 (see Behar et al., 2008). Macro- haplogroup N is represented by three different haplo- types of which only one can be unambiguously classified as N1a (it contains HVS-I motif 16147G-16172-16223-16248-16355). Two other N haplotypes have never been found outside Soqotra (see Table 2).

The most widespread mtDNA types in Soqotra belong to macrohaplogroup R (Table 2). The majority of R haplo- types can be classified as R0a [previously known as (preHV)1]. Three of the R haplotypes have not been previously reported. A network analysis of all Soqotri R0a haplotypes with additional sequences from Africa and Asia (see Fig. 4) shows a time to most recent common ancestor (TMRCA) of 23,339 6 8,232 YBP for R0a. It is shown that the majority of Soqotri R0a haplotypes fall into clade R0a1 (defined by variant 16355) whose TMRCA is 11,418 6 4,198 YBP. Furthermore, within R0a1, the unique Soqotri haplotypes form a new clade that is defined by variant 16172 and that we have named R0a1a1. Abu-Amero et al. (2007) identified a hap- lotype defined by variant 16355 and named it (preHV)1a1, thus it corresponds to R0a1a using the newer nomenclature and the unique Soqotri haplotypes are derived from this lineage). This Soqotri-specific clade has a very young TMRCA (3,363 6 2,378 YBP) that sug- gests the R0a1a1 haplotypes evolved on Soqotra and have not dispersed elsewhere. Two other Soqotri R hap- lotypes are not classified further than R* and are quite common in neighboring populations. Five haplotypes within macrohaplogroup R carry the 4216N1aIII variant that places them in clade JT. Of the JT haplotypes, two are unique to Soqotra; J1b is represented by two individuals and T* is represented by one individual.

The majority of NRY haplotypes in Soqotra belong to haplogroup J (85.7%), with most (45 out of 54) unclassified as J*(xJ1,J2) and a few (the remaining 9 samples) classified as J1 (see Fig. 5). It is interesting to note that NRY haplotypes lacking both M172 and M267, as in our unclassified J*, have not been previously identified on the Arabian Peninsula (Cadenas et al., 2008). Haplogroup E is represented at a frequency of 9.5% and three other haplogroups, F*(xJ,K), K*(xO,P) and R*(xR1b), are present in one individual each. It is worth noting that none of the ancient African haplogroups (A and B) were observed in Soqotra.



—…?


[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
 
Ironically is the Soqotra variety, in addition to what lionass posted already:


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Further more we have other Southern Arabians:


Akhdam
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Qarra
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Hawt
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boobytrap.
 


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