Originally posted by the lioness,:
more info here;
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/16/us/confederate-monuments-removed.html
quote:http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2017/08/14/history-blood-soil/
The History of ‘Blood and Soil’
At the Friday night tiki torch march of the fascists at the University of Virginia, one of the things they were chanting was “blood and soil.” I assumed they were merely making a reference to spilling blood, but turns out this was a common Nazi slogan in the 1920s.
Blood and Soil (‘Blut und Boden’) was a very important philosophy for Nazi Germany. The issue of ‘blood and soil’ nearly split the Nazi Party after 1925 and was only resolved at the Bamberg Conference of 1926. One side of the Nazi Party wanted to emphasise the relationship between true Aryans and a rural life. Hitler believed that true Germans ‘came from the soil’ – that they had a family background based on farming and life in the countryside. However, men like Gregor and Otto Strasser wanted to move the party away from the belief in ‘Blut und Boden’ and move towards a policy of attracting more support in urban areas. The Strasser brothers were defeated on this issue and Hitler rallied his supporters around ‘Blut und Boden’ while Otto Strasser left to form his own party based outside of Germany. Gregor was murdered on the Night of the Long Knives.
Hitler wanted all Germans to identify themselves with a glorious historic past based on descendants who worked off the land. There was an element of romanticism associated with this belief as it failed to take into account the importance of industry in the rise of Imperial Germany in the late C19th and early C20th. However, Hitler associated industry with socialism, communism and trade unions – even if he was to court the support (and money) of the industrialists in later years…
In 1930 Richard Darré wrote ‘A New Nobility Based on Blood and Soil’. This became a popular read among high ranking Nazis as it associated the ‘master race’ belief alongside ‘blood and soil’. Darré argued that a master race created out of a eugenics programme would lead to a race of people who would be free from illness and full of virtue and good thoughts. The blemishes that he believed blighted German society then would be removed forever once a ‘master race’ had replaced German society as it stood in 1930.
Interesting. But I wonder why today’s neo-Nazis who marched chose that slogan? I doubt most of them have any interest in becoming farmers. And they looked like mostly a collection of frat boys, not some backwoods rednecks that fit the typical KKK stereotype. Richard Spencer doesn’t seem like a guy who is going to be manning a plow anytime soon. So I wonder what the process was by which they chose that as a slogan to chant. Was it just the connection to Hitler? Or is there some deeper meaning, something indicative of some specific goal or ideological position that they think is relevant today?
quote:https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/alternative-right
The Alternative Right, commonly known as the Alt-Right, is a set of far-right ideologies, groups and individuals whose core belief is that “white identity” is under attack by multicultural forces using “political correctness” and “social justice” to undermine white people and “their” civilization. Characterized by heavy use of social media and online memes, Alt-Righters eschew “establishment” conservatism, skew young, and embrace white ethno-nationalism as a fundamental value.
quote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/23/the-confederacys-pathetic-case-of-flag-envy/?utm_term=.39513e387c9a
“As a people, we are fighting to maintain the heaven ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematic,”
quote:Does confederate monument removals upset you?
Originally posted by the lioness,:
more info here;
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/16/us/confederate-monuments-removed.html
quote:No I'm happy to see them go
Originally posted by the questioner:
Does confederate monument removals upset you?
quote:For over ten years it has been reported declining white birth rates,
Originally posted by mena7:
[QB] I dont understand why a country will build monuments and statues to traitors and secessionists that have lost a war. The White supremacists are acting like they are oppressed minority. Let me tell you the truth White supremacists White people rules the world. White people conquered the world from Black and Brown people 600 years ago.
White people control the most powerful country in the world. White people own the most powerful banks in the world. White people own the most powerful corporation in the world. white people own the patents for the majority of modern technology. White people control the world most powerful media. White people control the most powerful armies in the world. I can go on in on. LOL the White supremacists are acting like they are victims, thats a joke.
quote:https://www.census.gov/newsroom/facts-for-features/2016/cb16-ff16.html
Nationally, the ratio of non-Hispanic white births to deaths is nearly at par, at 1.04 births for every death. The ratio is much higher for minority groups, particularly among Latinos, whose rate is 5.4 births for every death. The ratio for blacks is 1.94 births for every death, and for Asians, it is 1.75 births.
quote:I had a post with Rachel Maddow, explaining the power moves by the KKK. She shows the early history and how they've switched parties. Look at it, learn here.
Originally posted by mena7:
I dont understand why a country will build monuments and statues to traitors and secessionists that have lost a war. The White supremacists are acting like they are oppressed minority. Let me tell you the truth White supremacists White people rules the world. White people conquered the world from Black and Brown people 600 years ago.
White people control the most powerful country in the world. White people own the most powerful banks in the world. White people own the most powerful corporation in the world. white people own the patents for the majority of modern technology. White people control the world most powerful media. White people control the most powerful armies in the world. I can go on in on. LOL the White supremacists are acting like they are victims, thats a joke.
When the White Supremacist in Charlotteville were screaming 'Jews will not replace us'remind me of a post by Jantahanta stating that during the French Revolution the Black monarchs of Europe were deposed by the White masses and replaced by White monarchs.
quote:would you like them destroyed or put in museums?
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:No I'm happy to see them go
Originally posted by the questioner:
Does confederate monument removals upset you?
quote:Sell them as sculptures or for scrap metal.
Originally posted by the questioner:
quote:would you like them destroyed or put in museums?
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:No I'm happy to see them go
Originally posted by the questioner:
Does confederate monument removals upset you?
quote:WTF?? What is a Confederate monument doing in Brooklyn, in my neighborhood on my side of the street!!!.
Originally posted by the lioness,:
more info here;
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/16/us/confederate-monuments-removed.html
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quote:Hmm Interesting
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Sell them as sculptures or for scrap metal.
Originally posted by the questioner:
quote:would you like them destroyed or put in museums?
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:No I'm happy to see them go
Originally posted by the questioner:
Does confederate monument removals upset you?
quote:What's most interesting is that the major mainstream scholars supporting white Supremacist ideas in genetics , history and etc., were the people White Supremacist in Charlotteville were screaming not to replace them, i.e., 'Jews will not replace us" . It is almost like the 1930's when the Jews considered themselves more German than the non-Jewish Germans. I hope history is not repeating it self.
Originally posted by mena7:
I dont understand why a country will build monuments and statues to traitors and secessionists that have lost a war. The White supremacists are acting like they are oppressed minority. Let me tell you the truth White supremacists White people rules the world. White people conquered the world from Black and Brown people 600 years ago.
White people control the most powerful country in the world. White people own the most powerful banks in the world. White people own the most powerful corporation in the world. white people own the patents for the majority of modern technology. White people control the world most powerful media. White people control the most powerful armies in the world. I can go on in on. LOL the White supremacists are acting like they are victims, thats a joke.
When the White Supremacist in Charlotteville were screaming 'Jews will not replace us'remind me of a post by Jantahanta stating that during the French Revolution the Black monarchs of Europe were deposed by the White masses and replaced by White monarchs.
quote:Which mainstream scholars support white supremacist genetics?
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
What's most interesting is that the major mainstream scholars supporting white Supremacist ideas in genetics , history and etc., were the people White Supremacist in Charlotteville were screaming not to replace them, i.e., 'Jews will not replace us" . It is almost like the 1930's when the Jews considered themselves more German than the non-Jewish Germans. I hope history is not repeating it self.
quote:Evolution theory is a white supremacist ideology in mainstream science
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Which mainstream scholars support white supremacist genetics?
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
What's most interesting is that the major mainstream scholars supporting white Supremacist ideas in genetics , history and etc., were the people White Supremacist in Charlotteville were screaming not to replace them, i.e., 'Jews will not replace us" . It is almost like the 1930's when the Jews considered themselves more German than the non-Jewish Germans. I hope history is not repeating it self.
Are you referring to the Max Plank institute researchers?
quote:what really happened?
Originally posted by the questioner:
Evolution theory is a white supremacist ideology in mainstream science
mainstream science believes the white race evolved from the black race thus making them superior or more advance
quote:Nobody really knows
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:what really happened?
Originally posted by the questioner:
Evolution theory is a white supremacist ideology in mainstream science
mainstream science believes the white race evolved from the black race thus making them superior or more advance
quote:Neither of those points proves whites did not evolve from blacks
Originally posted by the questioner:
the fact that Africans come from haplogroup E and Africans have no Neanderthal DNA proves whites did not evolve from blacks [/QB]
quote:
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/misconceptions_teacherfaq.php#a3
MISCONCEPTION: Evolution results in progress; organisms are always getting better through evolution.
CORRECTION: One important mechanism of evolution, natural selection, does result in the evolution of improved abilities to survive and reproduce; however, this does not mean that evolution is progressive — for several reasons. First, as described in a misconception below, natural selection does not produce organisms perfectly suited to their environments. It often allows the survival of individuals with a range of traits — individuals that are "good enough" to survive. Hence, evolutionary change is not always necessary for species to persist. Many taxa (like some mosses, fungi, sharks, opossums, and crayfish) have changed little physically over great expanses of time. Second, there are other mechanisms of evolution that don't cause adaptive change. Mutation, migration, and genetic drift may cause populations to evolve in ways that are actually harmful overall or make them less suitable for their environments. For example, the Afrikaner population of South Africa has an unusually high frequency of the gene responsible for Huntington's disease because the gene version drifted to high frequency as the population grew from a small starting population. Finally, the whole idea of "progress" doesn't make sense when it comes to evolution. Climates change, rivers shift course, new competitors invade — and an organism with traits that are beneficial in one situation may be poorly equipped for survival when the environment changes. And even if we focus on a single environment and habitat, the idea of how to measure "progress" is skewed by the perspective of the observer. From a plant's perspective, the best measure of progress might be photosynthetic ability; from a spider's it might be the efficiency of a venom delivery system; from a human's, cognitive ability. It is tempting to see evolution as a grand progressive ladder with Homo sapiens emerging at the top. But evolution produces a tree, not a ladder — and we are just one of many twigs on the tree.
quote:Kenyans have contact with Europeans (Kenya is an exception that proves the rule)
Originally posted by lamin:
Neanderthal DNA was found in Kenya and parts of West Africa. Darwin never wrote about any missing link,
quote:all of the countries and people you named had contact with African people and this can be proven through physical features and history
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Neither of those points proves whites did not evolve from blacks
Originally posted by the questioner:
the fact that Africans come from haplogroup E and Africans have no Neanderthal DNA proves whites did not evolve from blacks
You also mistake that all evolution means that what came later is more advanced. That may be true on very long timelines between
apes and humans however along the way there are many horizontal splits that are adaptations to particular environments rather than general advancements. Also many mutations are random.
On the European continent haplogroup E has the highest concentration in Kosovo (over 45%), Albania and Montenegro (both 27%), Bulgaria (23%), Macedonia and Greece (both 21%), Cyprus (20%), Sicily (20%), South Italy (18.5%), Serbia (18%) and Romania (15%). Ashkenazi Jews have approximately 20% of E1b1b, which falls mostly under specific clades of E-M123.
But all haplogroups are thought to have evolved from African haplogroups anyway.
As for Neanderthal DNA some Yoruba people have small traces of it.
But even if they didn't the fact that Europeans have a small amount, 1-4% Neanderthal DNA does not mean they did not evolve form Africans. All it means is that when people left Africa and went into Europe some did a little mixing with Neanderthals.
quote:[/QB]
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/misconceptions_teacherfaq.php#a3
MISCONCEPTION: Evolution results in progress; organisms are always getting better through evolution.
CORRECTION: One important mechanism of evolution, natural selection, does result in the evolution of improved abilities to survive and reproduce; however, this does not mean that evolution is progressive — for several reasons. First, as described in a misconception below, natural selection does not produce organisms perfectly suited to their environments. It often allows the survival of individuals with a range of traits — individuals that are "good enough" to survive. Hence, evolutionary change is not always necessary for species to persist. Many taxa (like some mosses, fungi, sharks, opossums, and crayfish) have changed little physically over great expanses of time. Second, there are other mechanisms of evolution that don't cause adaptive change. Mutation, migration, and genetic drift may cause populations to evolve in ways that are actually harmful overall or make them less suitable for their environments. For example, the Afrikaner population of South Africa has an unusually high frequency of the gene responsible for Huntington's disease because the gene version drifted to high frequency as the population grew from a small starting population. Finally, the whole idea of "progress" doesn't make sense when it comes to evolution. Climates change, rivers shift course, new competitors invade — and an organism with traits that are beneficial in one situation may be poorly equipped for survival when the environment changes. And even if we focus on a single environment and habitat, the idea of how to measure "progress" is skewed by the perspective of the observer. From a plant's perspective, the best measure of progress might be photosynthetic ability; from a spider's it might be the efficiency of a venom delivery system; from a human's, cognitive ability. It is tempting to see evolution as a grand progressive ladder with Homo sapiens emerging at the top. But evolution produces a tree, not a ladder — and we are just one of many twigs on the tree.
quote:The human is a type of ape that went into the savanna, the hair was unnecessary and the upright position was good for seeing over long stretches
Originally posted by the questioner:
if the human evolved from the ape
please explain why the ape had to evolve?
Apes still know how to survive in the same climate as humans [/QB]
quote:why does a ape loose hair in savanna but not jungle
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:The human is a type of ape that went into the savanna, the hair was unnecessary and the upright position was good for seeing over long stretches
Originally posted by the questioner:
if the human evolved from the ape
please explain why the ape had to evolve?
Apes still know how to survive in the same climate as humans
[/QB]
quote:"human beings and chimpanzees share 94% of genes in common"
Originally posted by the lioness,:
human beings and chimpanzees share 94% of genes in common
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair#Human_hairlessness
hairlessness of humans
The general hairlessness of humans in comparison to related species may be due to loss of functionality in the pseudogene KRTHAP1 (which helps produce keratin) in the human lineage about 240,000 years ago.[29] On an individual basis, mutations in the gene HR can lead to complete hair loss, though this is not typical in humans.[30] Humans may also lose their hair as a result of hormonal imbalance due to drugs or pregnancy.[31]
In order to comprehend why humans are essentially hairless, it is essential to understand that mammalian body hair is not merely an aesthetic characteristic; it protects the skin from wounds, bites, heat, cold, and UV radiation.[32] Additionally, it can be used as a communication tool and as a camouflage.[33] To this end, it can be concluded that benefits stemming from the loss of human body hair must be great enough to outweigh the loss of these protective functions by nakedness.
Humans are the only primate species that have undergone significant hair loss and of the approximately 5000 extant species of mammal, only a handful are effectively hairless. This list includes elephants, rhinoceroses, hippopotamuses, walruses, some species of pigs, whales and other cetaceans, and naked mole rats.[33] Most mammals have light skin that is covered by fur, and biologists believe that early human ancestors started out this way also. Dark skin probably evolved after humans lost their body fur, because the naked skin was vulnerable to the strong UV radiation as explained in the Out of Africa hypothesis. Therefore, evidence of the time when human skin darkened has been used to date the loss of human body hair, assuming that the dark skin was needed after the fur was gone. It was expected that dating the split of the ancestral human louse into two species, the head louse and the pubic louse, would date the loss of body hair in human ancestors. However, it turned out that the human pubic louse does not descend from the ancestral human louse, but from the gorilla louse, diverging 3.3 million years ago. This suggests that humans had lost body hair (but retained head hair) and developed thick pubic hair prior to this date, were living in or close to the forest where gorillas lived, and acquired pubic lice from butchering gorillas or sleeping in their nests.[34][35] The evolution of the body louse from the head louse, on the other hand, places the date of clothing much later, some 100,000 years ago.[36][37]
The soft, fine hair found on many nonhuman mammals is typically called fur.[38]
The sweat glands in humans could have evolved to spread from the hands and feet as the body hair changed, or the hair change could have occurred to facilitate sweating. Horses and humans are two of the few animals capable of sweating on most of their body, yet horses are larger and still have fully developed fur. In humans, the skin hairs lie flat in hot conditions, as the arrector pili muscles relax, preventing heat from being trapped by a layer of still air between the hairs, and increasing heat loss by convection.
Another hypothesis for the thick body hair on humans proposes that Fisherian runaway sexual selection played a role (as well as in the selection of long head hair), (see types of hair and vellus hair), as well as a much larger role of testosterone in men. Sexual selection is the only theory thus far that explains the sexual dimorphism seen in the hair patterns of men and women. On average, men have more body hair than women. Males have more terminal hair, especially on the face, chest, abdomen, and back, and females have more vellus hair, which is less visible. The halting of hair development at a juvenile stage, vellus hair, would also be consistent with the neoteny evident in humans, especially in females, and thus they could have occurred at the same time.[39] This theory, however, has significant holdings in today's cultural norms. There is no evidence that sexual selection would proceed to such a drastic extent over a million years ago when a full, lush coat of hair would most likely indicate health and would therefore be more likely to be selected for, not against, and not all human populations today have sexual dimorphism in body hair.
A further hypothesis is that human hair was reduced in response to ectoparasites.[40][41] The "ectoparasite" explanation of modern human nakedness is based on the principle that a hairless primate would harbor fewer parasites. When our ancestors adopted group-dwelling social arrangements roughly 1.8 mya, ectoparasite loads increased dramatically. Early humans became the only one of the 193 primate species to have fleas, which can be attributed to the close living arrangements of large groups of individuals. While primate species have communal sleeping arrangements, these groups are always on the move and thus are less likely to harbor ectoparasites. Because of this, selection pressure for early humans would favor decreasing body hair because those with thick coats would have more lethal-disease-carrying ectoparasites and would thereby have lower fitness. However, early humans were able to compensate for the loss of warmth and protection provided by body hair with clothing, and no other mammal lost body hair to reduce parasite loads.
Another view is proposed by James Giles, who attempts to explain hairlessness as evolved from the relationship between mother and child, and as a consequence of bipedalism. Giles also connects romantic love to hairlessness.[42]
Another hypothesis is that humans use of fire caused, or initiated the reduction in human hair.[43]
quote:If we apply statistical likelihood, Clyde is correct.
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Which mainstream scholars support white supremacist genetics?
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
What's most interesting is that the major mainstream scholars supporting white Supremacist ideas in genetics , history and etc., were the people White Supremacist in Charlotteville were screaming not to replace them, i.e., 'Jews will not replace us" . It is almost like the 1930's when the Jews considered themselves more German than the non-Jewish Germans. I hope history is not repeating it self.
Are you referring to the Max Plank institute researchers?
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
So a white person with is dreads is racist?
quote:Is that your most concern right now, especially in this day and time?
Originally posted by the lioness,:
So a white person with is dreads is racist?
quote:https://www.aclu.org/news/suspending-rastafarian-police-officer-wearing-dreadlocks-violates-religious-liberty-aclu-says
'SUSPENDING RASTAFARIAN POLICE OFFICER FOR WEARING DREADLOCKS VIOLATES RELIGIOUS LIBERTY, ACLU SAYS"
Suspending Rastafarian Police Officer for Wearing Dreadlocks Violates Religious Liberty, ACLU Says | American Civil Liberties Union
BALTIMORE, MD -- The American Civil Liberties Union of Maryland today called on the Baltimore Police Department to reinstate a suspended Rastafarian police officer who wears his hair in locks for religious reasons.
"Federal, state, and city law prohibit discrimination on the basis of religion," said ACLU staff counsel Nicole Gray Porter. "Punishing a police officer for his religious practices is clearly illegal."
The ACLU also called on the Baltimore Police Department to rescind its rules prohibiting locks, cornrows or braids, noting that these rules prohibit hair styles worn primarily by African Americans.
Officer Antoine Chambers, formerly of the Baltimore Police Department's Northern Division, is a devout Rastafarian. One tenet of the Rastafarian faith is that adherents wear their hair in locks. Officer Chambers has worn his hair in locks for more than a year without incident. Ms. Porter noted that Officer Chambers' locks are "short and well-groomed."
In June, however, the Northern Division's commander issued an instruction forbidding personnel from wearing locks, braids, or cornrows. Officer Chambers told police officials that his religion precluded him from complying with the instruction. He was told to present a letter from a religious authority explaining the significance of locks.
After presenting a letter from Baltimore City Councilman Dr. Norman A. Handy, Sr., explaining the significance of locks, however, Officer Chambers was still ordered to cut them off. When he refused, hewas stripped of his police powers. Other Baltimore Police Department divisions, however, include a religious exception in their grooming standards.
"Officer Chambers wears his hair in locks for religious reasons," said Porter. "Telling him to cut off his locks is no different than telling a devout Jewish police officer that he can't wear a yarmulke in uniform."
The ACLU is exploring the legal remedies available to Officer Chambers, who has a complaint pending before the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. But Porter said she hopes the Baltimore Police Department will reinstate Officer Chambers and rescind the policy before the case is litigated in court.
"Returning Antoine Chambers to duty is the right thing to do," she said.
quote:http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=96389&page=1
"Rastafarian Officer Fights for Dreadlocks"
In addition, with the ban specifically focuses on cornrows, dreadlocks and braids, Epstein says that the police department comes dangerously close to not only violating Chambers’ constitutional right to religious freedom but suggesting that “black-looking” hairstyles are dangerous.
quote:http://blackgirllonghair.com/2013/06/ohio-school-bans-afro-puffs-and-braids/
"Ohio School Bans Afro Puffs and Braids"
Black Girl With Long Hair by BLACK GIRL WITH LONG HAIR • JUNE 20, 2013
quote:https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/08/small-truth-papering-over-a-big-lie/61136/
Small Truth Papering Over a Big Lie
Ta-Nehisi CoatesAug 9, 2010
by Andy Hall
"Ninety-eight percent of Texas Confederate soldiers never owned a slave." So says Texas State Senate Resolution No. 526, designating April as Texas Confederate History and Heritage Month.
This is an extremely common argument among Confederate apologists, part of a larger effort to minimize or eliminate the institution of slavery as a factor in secession and the coming of the war, and thus make it possible to maintain the notion that Southern soldiers, like the Confederacy itself, were driven by the purest and noblest values to defend home and hearth. Slavery played no role it the coming of the war, they say; how could it, when less than two percent (four percent, five percent) actually owned slaves? In fact, they'd say, their ancestors had nothing at all to do with slavery.
Bullshit.
It's true that in an extremely narrow sense, only a very small proportion of Confederate soldiers owned slaves in their own right. That, of course, is to be expected; soldiering is a young man's game, and most young men, then and now, have little in the way of personal wealth. As a crude analogy, how many PFCs and corporals in Iraq and Afghanistan today own their own homes? Not many.
But even if it is narrowly true, it's a deeply, deeply dishonest statistic. It is, as TheRaven would say, a small truth used to paper over a big lie. A majority of those young men who marched off to war in the spring of 1861 were fully vested in the "peculiar institution." Joseph T. Glatthaar, in his magnificent study of the force that eventually became the Army of Northern Virginia, lays out the evidence.
Even more revealing was their attachment to slavery. Among the enlistees in 1861, slightly more than one in ten owned slaves personally. This compared favorably to the Confederacy as a whole, in which one in every twenty white persons owned slaves. Yet more than one in every four volunteers that first year lived with parents who were slaveholders. Combining those soldiers who owned slaves with those soldiers who lived with slaveholding family members, the proportion rose to 36 percent. That contrasted starkly with the 24.9 percent, or one in every four households, that owned slaves in the South, based on the 1860 census. Thus, volunteers in 1861 were 42 percent more likely to own slaves themselves or to live with family members who owned slaves than the general population.
The attachment to slavery, though, was even more powerful. One in every ten volunteers in 1861 did not own slaves themselves but lived in households headed by non family members who did. This figure, combined with the 36 percent who owned or whose family members owned slaves, indicated that almost one of every two 1861 recruits lived with slaveholders. Nor did the direct exposure stop there. Untold numbers of enlistees rented land from, sold crops to, or worked for slaveholders. In the final tabulation, the vast majority of the volunteers of 1861 had a direct connection to slavery. For slaveholder and nonslaveholder alike, slavery lay at the heart of the Confederate nation. The fact that their paper notes frequently depicted scenes of slaves demonstrated the institution's central role and symbolic value to the Confederacy.
More than half the officers in 1861 owned slaves, and none of them lived with family members who were slaveholders. Their substantial median combined wealth ($5,600) and average combined wealth ($8,979) mirrored that high proportion of slave ownership. By comparison, only one in twelve enlisted men owned slaves, but when those who lived with family slave owners were included, the ratio exceeded one in three. That was 40 percent above the tally for all households in the Old South. With the inclusion of those who resided in nonfamily slaveholding households, the direct exposure to bondage among enlisted personnel was four of every nine. Enlisted men owned less wealth, with combined levels of $1,125 for the median and $7,079 for the average, but those numbers indicated a fairly comfortable standard of living. Proportionately, far more officers were likely to be professionals in civil life, and their age difference, about four years older than enlisted men, reflected their greater accumulated wealth.
The prevalence of slaveholding was so pervasive among Southerners who heeded the call to arms in 1861 that it became something of a joke; Glatthaar tells of an Irish-born private in a Georgia regiment who quipped to his messmates that "he bought a negro, he says, to have something to fight for."
While Joe Glatthaar undoubtedly had a small regiment of graduate assistants to help with cross-indexing Confederate muster rolls and the 1860 U.S. Census, there are some basic tools now available online that will allow anyone to at least get a general sense of the validity of his numbers. The Historical Census Browser from the University of Virginia Library allows users to compile, sort and visualize data from U.S. Censuses from 1790 to 1960. For Glatthaar's purposes and ours, the 1860 census, taken a few months before the outbreak of the war, is crucial. It records basic data about the free population, including names, sex, approximate age, occupation and value of real and personal property of each person in a household. A second, separate schedule records the name of each slaveholder and lists the slave he or she owns. Each slave is listed by sex and age; names were not recorded. The data in the UofV online system can be broken down either by state or counties within a state, and make it possible to compare one data element (e.g., households) with another (slaveholders) and calculate the proportions between them.
In the vast majority of cases, each household (termed a "family" in the 1860 document, even when the group consisted of unrelated people living in the same residence) that owned slaves had only one slaveholder listed, the head of the household. It is thus possible to compare the number of slaveholders in a given state to the numbers of families/households, and get a rough estimation of the proportion of free households that owned at least one slave. The numbers varies considerably, ranging from 1 in 5 in Arkansas to 1 in 2 in Mississippi and South Carolina. In the eleven states that formed the Confederacy, there were in aggregate just over 1 million free households, which between them represented 316,632 slaveholders—meaning that just under one-third of households in the Confederate States counted among its assets at least one human being.
The UofV system also makes it possible to generate maps that show graphically the proportion of slaveholding households in a given county. This is particularly useful in revealing political divisions or disputes within a state, although it takes some practice with the online query system to generate maps properly. Here are county maps for all eleven Confederate states, with the proportion of slaveholding families indicated in green -- a darker color indicates a higher density: Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, All States. (Note: these links often don't run run the map-generating scripts properly, so be patient and click gently.) Observers will note that the incidence of slaveholding was highest in agricultural lowlands, where rivers provided both transportation for bulk commodities and periodic floods that replenished the soil, and lowest in mountainous regions like Appalachia. The map of Virginia, in particular, goes a long way to explaining the breakup of that state during the war.
You don't have to talk to a Confederate apologist long before before you'll be told that only a tiny fraction of butternuts owned slaves. (This is usually followed immediately by an assertion that the speaker's own Confederate ancestors never owned slaves, either.) The number ascribed to Confederate soldiers as a whole varies—two percent, five percent—but the message is always the same, that those men 150 years had nothing to do with the peculiar institution, they has no stake in it, and that it certainly played no role whatever in their personal motivations or in the Confederacy's goals in the war. But it's simply not true in any meaningful way. Slave labor was as much a part of life in the antebellum South as heat in the summer and hog-killing time in the late fall. Southerners across the Confederacy, from Texas to Florida to Virginia, civilian and soldier alike, were awash in the institution of slavery. They were up to their necks in it. They swam in it, and no amount of willful denial can change that.
quote:why did the South secede ?
Originally posted by Doug M:
There was no difference between the South or the North when it comes to racism against black folks. Slavery was a secondary issue of the war. The main issue was integrity of the Country. And the issue of slavery was not about concern for the rights of black people as opposed to the desire in the North to move forward with industrialization and end the dependence on slavery. The Northern industrialists planned on using European immigrant and white American skilled labor to replace black slave workers. And this is why there were so many race riots in the North against black folks both during and after the civil war.
The only reason the North made overt gestures in support of black folks was due to the fact that the North was losing the war. So drafting black folks was a logical step to turn the tide. But after the war all those promises made to black folks were eventually forgotten and disregarded and Jim Crow and legal segregation and discrimination became the law in the ENTIRE country. North and South. Because both groups had no interest in making black folks fully integrated members of the country with all the rights and benefits of the country. So in that sense there was no difference in terms of racism or white nationalism between Southern farmers and Northern Industrialists...... Make no mistake about that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGQvKiJi4Jw
quote:Yep, they do suffer from cognitive dissonance. Thinking they are actually the Romans or Roman descendant. You can see it in academia, movies, books etc. Same goes for the Viking claim, just as weird.
Originally posted by lamin:
Caesar and other Roman generals invaded,killed and enslaved the inhabitants of Europe. The Appian Way in Rome was often lined with the slaughtered bodies of Europe's barbarian people. The Romans and Greeks before them ran slave societies made up of captives from their wars. The Romans liked their British slaves because they were meek and not very bright.
quote:If India wants to take down the Taj Mahal because they find it insulting that is their business, if not that is also their business. They live in an autonomous state. So the Taj Mahal doesn't impose "Islamic supremacy" upon east Indian people.
Originally posted by lamin:
Muslims invaded India and killed many Hindus then built the Taj Mahal. Should it be destroyed and replaced with a Hindu temple?
quote:In the country where I live is it probated to carry out the hitler salute or carry nazi symbols. This is so in most of Europe, if not all. Neither will you find any Hitler monuments in Europe.
Originally posted by lamin:
This is the basic question: should history be viewed through moral lenses? Yes, it has been viewed that way in some cases--but not in all cases. Hitler's wars and Nazism have been condemned non-stop in Europe. Stalin's crimes including purges, murders, show trials and torture gulags have been condemned but not as much.
quote:Most if not all European pirates etcera are being seen as heroes.
Originally posted by lamin:
Napoleon is seen as hero in France with his revered Mausoleum, but was in favor of slavery in Haiti and tricked Toussaint to meet with him only to capture him and send him into exile.
quote:The confederate monuments have been placed there after the civil war. These have been put there by KKK members and affiliates to impose white supremacy upon black America during the civil rights era. There is nothing great about these statues. And black people should't have to be confronted with these statues of white supremacy and terror imposement, especially in this day and time.
Originally posted by lamin:
Serious responses only: How about renaming Howard University--Nat Turner University. And Spelman College, Harriet Tubman College? And all blacks casting off the names of the slavers who owned their ancestors as rejection of Confederates monuments of slavery?
quote:So how does tearing down a statue end racism in America? And once you start where do you stop? Do you tear down and rename every building,street, college, school building, institution, scholarship, piece of currency and anything else related to slavery and racism? And if the answer is yes you know that would literally mean tearing down almost EVERYTHING in America, Mt Rushmore included. The idea that the only notable figures in America who were openly racist white nationalists before or after the civil war were the Confederates is pure unadulterated complete nonsense.
Originally posted by lamin:
This is a big theoretical issue in history: should one morally evaluate past societies and their actors in terms of the moral principles of the present?
Caesar and other Roman generals invaded,killed and enslaved the inhabitants of Europe. The Appian Way in Rome was often lined with the slaughtered bodies of Europe's barbarian people.
The Romans and Greeks before them ran slave societies made up of captives from their wars. The Romans liked their British slaves because they were meek and not very bright.
London--originally Londinium--in England was a Roman fort that was built after the Roman invasions. Should the name, London be changed to Boudica who fought against the Romans?
Muslims invaded India and killed many Hindus then built the Taj Mahal. Should it be destroyed and replaced with a Hindu temple?
This is the basic question: should history be viewed through moral lenses? Yes, it has been viewed that way in some cases--but not in all cases. Hitler's wars and Nazism have been condemned non-stop in Europe. Stalin's crimes including purges, murders, show trials and torture gulags have been condemned but not as much.
Napoleon is seen as hero in France with his revered Mausoleum, but was in favor of slavery in Haiti and tricked Toussaint to meet with him only to capture him and send him into exile.
Serious responses only: How about renaming Howard University--Nat Turner University. And Spelman College, Harriet Tubman College? And all blacks casting off the names of the slavers who owned their ancestors as rejection of Confederates monuments of slavery?
quote:http://www.history.com/topics/american-civil-war/nathan-bedford-forrest
Nathan Bedford Forrest (1821-1877) was a Confederate general during the Civil War (1861-65). Despite having no formal military training, Forrest rose from the rank of private to lieutenant general, serving as a cavalry officer at numerous engagements including the Battles of Shiloh, Chickamauga, Brice’s Crossroads and Second Franklin. Known for his maxim “get there first with the most men,” Forrest was relentless in harassing Union forces during the Vicksburg Campaign in 1862 and 1863, and conducted successful raiding operations on federal supplies and communication lines throughout the war. In addition to his ingenious cavalry tactics, Forrest is also remembered for his controversial involvement in the Battle of Fort Pillow in April 1864, when his troops massacred black soldiers following a Union surrender. After the Civil War Forrest worked as a planter and railroad president, and served as the first grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. He died in 1877 at the age of 56.
quote:The following timeline may best explain, what I've tried to explain earlier on.
Originally posted by mena7:
I dont understand why a country will build monuments and statues to traitors and secessionists that have lost a war. The White supremacists are acting like they are oppressed minority. Let me tell you the truth White supremacists White people rules the world. White people conquered the world from Black and Brown people 600 years ago.
White people control the most powerful country in the world. White people own the most powerful banks in the world. White people own the most powerful corporation in the world. white people own the patents for the majority of modern technology. White people control the world most powerful media. White people control the most powerful armies in the world. I can go on in on. LOL the White supremacists are acting like they are victims, thats a joke.
When the White Supremacist in Charlotteville were screaming 'Jews will not replace us'remind me of a post by Jantahanta stating that during the French Revolution the Black monarchs of Europe were deposed by the White masses and replaced by White monarchs.
quote:https://www.episcopalcafe.com/clergy-convene-in-charlottesville-protesting-alt-right-rally/
Clergy convene in Charlottesville, protesting Alt-Right rally
On Friday night, ahead of tonight’s planned rally, members of the alt-right and white supremacist groups marched through the streets of Charlottesville, VA carrying torches and chanting slogans steeped in the history of bigotry. “Blood and soil,” a Nazi ideology of so-called purity based on ethnicity and national origin, “Jews shall not replace us,” and “white lives matter” were among their rallying cries. They are protesting the removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee.
Some counter-protesters clashed with the white supremacists near a statue of Thomas Jefferson, but many remained in a peaceful prayer vigil at St. Paul’s Memorial Episcopal Church. Clergy from many different faiths and from across the nation were present, answering a call from the bishops of the Diocese of Virginia. For some time, the white supremacists surrounded the church, but they were eventually disbanded by police for unlawful assembly. Traci Blackmon, a United Church of Christ minister tweeted that the police weren’t letting people inside the church go out for their own safety.
quote:I agree, shut the confederate the f@ck up!
Originally posted by Suliman:
Shut the f@ck up
quote:I am not surprised by that.
Originally posted by Autshumato:
We had almost the same reaction here in South Africa when colonial statues were being removed.
quote:http://www.ajc.com/news/local-govt--politics/andrew-young-opposes-fight-over-confederate-statues/eUumzGm5vUDQmwIcd7qU0O/
"Andrew Young opposes fight over Confederate statues"
Civil rights icon and former Atlanta mayor Andrew Young said Wednesday he doesn’t back the fight to tear down Confederate memorials around the country and that he fears it could have unintended consequences.
quote:http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2017/08/20/andrew-young-dont-blame-the-klan-or-uneducated-white-people/
"Andrew Young: Don’t blame the Klan or ‘uneducated white people’"
ANDREW YOUNG: Most of the issues that we’re dealing with now are related to poverty. But we still want to put everything in a racial context. The problem with the – and the reason I feel uncomfortable condemning the Klan types is – they are almost the poorest of the poor.
quote:http://www.ajc.com/news/local/andrew-young-atlanta-police-face-unlovable-little-brats-some-times/f7mIVNMsNpuNBjv2hjOK7K/
Andrew Young: Atlanta police face ‘unlovable little brats some times’
Andrew Young, the former Atlanta mayor and veteran of the 1960s civil rights movement, said recent Atlanta protesters have been able to “show off with no consequences” and told city police officers to not get upset.
“Those are some unlovable little brats out there some times,” Young said in a meeting with officers at a southwest Atlanta precinct.
He visited to offer encouragement to officers as protests in Atlanta continue over shootings by police in Louisiana and Minnesota. Reporters were invited to witness the meeting.
quote:http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2016/07/13/andrew-young-i-apologize-for-calling-protesters-unlovable-little-brats/
Andrew Young: I apologize for calling protesters ‘unlovable little brats’
That was a quick backtrack: Legendary civil rights activist Andrew Young apologized for calling some of the protesters marching against police violence “unlovable little brats.”
He told WSB’s Sophia Choi on Tuesday that he never meant to offend the protesters, only to thank the police officers who showed restraint during the demonstrations.
quote:Somebody could argue that tearing down these statues may not end racism but that it is better that the government doesn't sponsor heros of the slave holding states
Originally posted by Doug M:
So how does tearing down a statue end racism in America? And once you start where do you stop?
quote:There are several hundred confederate monuments. The map at top only shows some of them.
Washington took control of the Mount Vernon property in 1754, the population of Fairfax County was around 6,500 people, of whom a little more than 1,800 or about 28% were slaves of African origin. The proportion of slaves in the population as a whole rose throughout the century; by the end of the American Revolution, over 40% of the people living in Fairfax County were slaves.
Sources offer differing insight into Washington's behavior as a slave owner. On one end of the spectrum, Richard Parkinson, an Englishman who lived near Mount Vernon, once reported that "it was the sense of all his [Washington's] neighbors that he treated [his slaves] with more severity than any other man." Conversely, a foreign visitor traveling in America once recorded that George Washington dealt with the people he enslaved "far more humanely than do his fellow citizens of Virginia." What is clear is that Washington frequently utilized harsh punishment against the enslaved population, including whippings and the threat of particularly taxing work assignments. Perhaps most severely, Washington could sell a slave to a buyer in the West Indies, ensuring that the person would never see their family or friends at Mount Vernon again. Washington conducted such sales on several occasions.
At the time of George Washington’s death, the Mount Vernon estate’s enslaved population consisted of 317 people. Washington himself had been a slave owner for fifty-six years, beginning at eleven years of age when he inherited ten slaves from his deceased father. Washington’s thoughts on slavery were contradictory and changed over time. This evolution culminated near the end of his life; Washington’s will mandated the freeing of his slaves upon his wife’s death, making him the only slaveholding Founder to put provisions for manumission in his will.
Further, the enslaved population at Mount Vernon had contact with at least three other Christian denominations: Baptists, Methodists, and Quakers. There were also several remnants of religious traditions from Africa continuing to some degree at Mount Vernon, including both Vodoun and Islam.
In accordance with state law, George Washington stipulated in his will that elderly enslaved people or those who were too sick to work were to be supported by his estate in perpetuity. The remaining non-dower enslaved at Mount Vernon did not have to wait for Martha Washington’s death to receive their freedom. Writing on the subject to her sister, Abigail Adams explained that Martha Washington’s motives were largely driven by self-interest. “In the state in which they were left by the General, to be free at her death,” Adams explained, “she did not feel as tho her Life was safe in their Hands, many of whom would be told that it was [in] their interest to get rid of her–She therefore was advised to set them all free at the close of the year.” In December 1800, Martha Washington signed a deed of manumission for her deceased husband's slaves, a transaction that is recorded in the Fairfax County, Virginia, Court Records. They would finally be emancipated on January 1, 1801.
quote:Yet Washington and Jefferson were slave holders.
"..alright fine Thomas Jefferson was the president of the country one of the fathers of the country, George Washington was. Both were slave holders, that was what was going on then but Robert E Lee wouldn't even be mentioned if he was not the general of a confederate army fighting to enslave us and leading a seditious rebellion against the United States government. How do you justify using public money for that? Stonewall Jackson the same thing. Their only relationship was that they were fighting to uphold slavery and overthrow the government. So you cant't even put them in the same category with Washington and Jefferson. "
Rev. Al Sharpton Discusses The Minister March On Washington, Removing Confederate Memorials & More
-Breakfast Club Power 105.5
quote:So how do you end racism in America?
Originally posted by Doug M:
So how does tearing down a statue end racism in America? And once you start where do you stop?
quote:. That's not the right question.
So how do you end racism in America?
quote:I suggest you'll read this article:
Originally posted by lamin:
quote:. That's not the right question.
So how do you end racism in America?
The first question is how could blacks gain parity with Asians and Jews in terms educational attainment and become as economically independent and wealthy as those 2 groups?
The second question is how could blacks gain parity with Asians in terms of incarceration rates and relations to the police?
quote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/19/the-real-secret-to-asian-american-success-was-not-education/?utm_term=.ff4935442100
Hilger recently used old census records to trace the fortunes of whites, blacks and Asians who were born in California during the early- to mid-20th century. He found that educational gains had little to do with how Asian Americans managed to close the wage gap with whites by the 1970s.
Instead, his research suggests that society simply became less racist toward Asians.
[…]
Hilger’s research focuses on native-born whites, blacks and Asians to rule out the effects of subsequent immigration. In 1965, changing laws ushered in a surge of high-skilled, high-earning Asian workers, who now account for most of the Asians living in the United States today.
But even before the arrival of those highly educated immigrants, the Asians already living in the United States had more or less closed the wage gap with whites.
At the time of the 1940 census, Hilger found, California-born Asian men earned less than California-born black men. By the 1970 census, they were earning about the same as white men, and by the 1980 census, the native-born Asian men were out-earning white men.
[…]
“Asians used to be paid like blacks,” Hilger said. “But between 1940 and 1970, they started to get paid like whites.” The charts below shows average earnings for native-born black, white and Asian depending on how much education they had.
[…]
quote:Why many post WWII immigrant groups and thereafter do better than African Americans. Is explained in the following writing by Jude Jacques PD, in particular on page 51, 52 and 53 where the author reflects on the hair industry and economy.
Originally posted by lamin:
quote:. That's not the right question.
So how do you end racism in America?
The first question is how could blacks gain parity with Asians and Jews in terms educational attainment and become as economically independent and wealthy as those 2 groups?
The second question is how could blacks gain parity with Asians in terms of incarceration rates and relations to the police?
quote:The Chinese first came to the U.S. to help build the railways. They later founded various Chinatowns with their ubiquitous restaurants. They apparently figured out that hitting the books in difficult subjects would afford advantages over the rest of the population.
Hilger’s research focuses on native-born whites, blacks and Asians to rule out the effects of subsequent immigration. In 1965, changing laws ushered in a surge of high-skilled, high-earning Asian workers, who now account for most of the Asians living in the United States today.
But even before the arrival of those highly educated immigrants, the Asians already living in the United States had more or less closed the wage gap with whites.
quote:Good point. The issue is that ALL of America was racist towards blacks both before the Civil War and after. The South was beating the North badly which is why they were able to sack Washington and were all the way in Pennsylvania (Gettysburg, etc). It was the blacks in the North and South that saved the North's bacon. But recall that when blacks were first drafted there were massive riots in New York by Irish and other European immigrants....
Originally posted by lamin:
quote:. That's not the right question.
So how do you end racism in America?
The first question is how could blacks gain parity with Asians and Jews in terms educational attainment and become as economically independent and wealthy as those 2 groups?
The second question is how could blacks gain parity with Asians in terms of incarceration rates and relations to the police?
quote:http://www.philly.com/philly/education/bryn-mawr-confronts-racist-views-of-former-leader-20170824.html
Stirred by the fallout from the deadly Charlottesville protest, Bryn Mawr College this week took steps to distance itself from M. Carey Thomas, a leading suffragist and perhaps the school’s most influential president, citing her racist and anti-Semitic views.
The college will no longer refer in printed materials or on its website to its main gathering space as Thomas Great Hall or the building that houses it as Thomas Library, president Kim Cassidy said in a letter to the campus community.
“While Thomas had a profound impact on opportunities for women in higher education, on the academic development and identity of Bryn Mawr, and on the physical plan of the campus, she also openly and vigorously advanced racism and anti-Semitism as part of her vision of the college,” Cassidy said.
quote:https://stanfordreview.org/baltimores-legacy-of-racial-discrimination-b61a26128528
“Blacks should be quarantined in isolated slums in order to reduce the incidence of civil disturbance, to prevent the spread of communicable disease into the nearby White neighborhoods, and to protect property values among the White majority”
— J. Barry Mahool, 1910 Mayor of Baltimore, while explaining a municipal segregation law.
quote:
Although the 1881 law legally ended segregation in Pennsylvania’s schools, it was largely ignored. As passions during the post-Civil War era cooled, local governments found ways to circumvent or ignore state and federal laws, including the Fourteenth Amendment. In 1887, the state legislature eventually passed an equal rights bill that prohibited segregation in public accommodations, but like the 1881 legislation, it was generally disregarded. It took nearly a century, until the 1970s, to desegregate schools in Pennsylvania, but discrimination in some areas continues to this day.
quote:Not really.
Originally posted by lamin:
quote:The Chinese first came to the U.S. to help build the railways. They later founded various Chinatowns with their ubiquitous restaurants. They apparently figured out that hitting the books in difficult subjects would afford advantages over the rest of the population.
Hilger’s research focuses on native-born whites, blacks and Asians to rule out the effects of subsequent immigration. In 1965, changing laws ushered in a surge of high-skilled, high-earning Asian workers, who now account for most of the Asians living in the United States today.
But even before the arrival of those highly educated immigrants, the Asians already living in the United States had more or less closed the wage gap with whites.
Google Jonathan Farley and Sylvester Gates. They have followed the Chinese path and they succeeded. Same for Floyd Mayweather using another route. He earned $100 million last year. Despite accusations of domestic violence, he's virtually untouchable.
Looks like sociological culture and personal orientation are important variables in the mix too--apart from race.
There are now some 50 million blacks in the U.S. If only 5% contribute to a fund with annual contributions of $10,000 that would yield billion to invest in banks, real estate, etc. That's the way to go, but it is ignored.
quote:
Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
One of the most pervasive inventions of modern history on which virtually ALL electrical/electronics is dependent is an invention by black inventor; OTIS BOYKIN.
Mr. Boykin is the inventor of the RESISTOR, a basic electrical component which can be found used in electrical equipment like Microwave ovens, clocks, computers, radios, TVs.
None of these products would be able to work without the use of Otis Boykin's resistor.
Few inventors have had the lasting impact of Otis Boykin. Look around the house today and you'll see a variety of devices that utilize components made by Boykin – including computers, radios and TV sets. Boykin's inventions are all the more impressive when one considers he was an African American in a time of segregation and the field of electronics was not as well-established as it is today.
Though he attended the Illinois Institute of Technology for a time, Otis Boykin never made it to graduation because he couldn't afford tuition. Instead, Boykin went to work as an inventor. He received his first patent in 1959 for a wire resistor that allowed a precise amount of electricity to flow to a component. Two year later, he created an even better resistor that could be manufactured inexpensively and withstand extreme temperature changes and shock. A low-cost product that was more reliable, the invention brought Otis Boykin to the forefront of American electronics.
Consumer electronics manufacturers, the United States military and IBM all placed orders for the resistor. It would come to be used in household appliances, computers and guided missiles – and is still used in many of those devices to this very day. But, perhaps most importantly, a version of his resistor was used in the invention of the pacemaker. That device, which keeps the heart beating regularly through electronic pulses, has helped to extend the lives of hundreds of thousands of individuals.
And Otis Boykin's accomplishments didn't stop there. He continued to invent throughout the duration of his life (which ended in 1982), working as a consultant for firms in America and Europe. All in all, he earned 11 patents and invented 28 different electronic devices.
To observe how important and pervasive Mr. Boykin's resistor is used throughout all electronics, even the simple LED circuit below must use two resistors to work.
A modern computer will literally use millions or perhaps billions of resistors.
Why the basic resistor isn't mentioned in Nat'l Geo's list is telling since none of the listed electrical/electronics mentioned would be possible without the resistor.
quote:I wonder whether you actually read the article? Because it actually does touch that part of the subject.
Originally posted by lamin:
The Chinese first came to the U.S. to help build the railways. They later founded various Chinatowns with their ubiquitous restaurants. They apparently figured out that hitting the books in difficult subjects would afford advantages over the rest of the population.
quote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/19/the-real-secret-to-asian-american-success-was-not-education/?utm_term=.ff4935442100
Asian Americans have been part of the United States for most of its history. The first major wave of immigrants came in the 1800s, when Chinese laborers flocked to California to help build railroads. Their presence soon stirred up resentments among white Americans. The Chinese Massacre of 1871, which took place in the streets of Los Angeles, counts among the largest lynchings in U.S. history.
quote:I heard it recently.
Originally posted by lamin:
There are now some 50 million blacks in the U.S. If only 5% contribute to a fund with annual contributions of $10,000 that would yield billion to invest in banks, real estate, etc. That's the way to go, but it is ignored.
quote:Sounds interesting. I will look it up. Thanks.
Originally posted by lamin:
Google Jonathan Farley and Sylvester Gates. They have followed the Chinese path and they succeeded. Same for Floyd Mayweather using another route. He earned $100 million last year. Despite accusations of domestic violence, he's virtually untouchable.
quote:After seeing Rachel Maddow's summary "Racism Is 'A Persistent Infection' In White American Culture", I understand that these were KKK members or KKK affiliated individuals, but very powerful.
Originally posted by Doug M:
And even after the war there was open racism towards blacks in the Northern states all legalized under Jim Crow laws. Meaning there were openly racist mayors, councilmen, police commissioners, fire commissioners, governors, supreme court justices University Presidents and so forth.
quote:It is certainly interesting to review this history. Their "racial segregation", Redlining was planned ahead years before the actual Act.
Originally posted by Doug M:
quote:https://stanfordreview.org/baltimores-legacy-of-racial-discrimination-b61a26128528
“Blacks should be quarantined in isolated slums in order to reduce the incidence of civil disturbance, to prevent the spread of communicable disease into the nearby White neighborhoods, and to protect property values among the White majority”
— J. Barry Mahool, 1910 Mayor of Baltimore, while explaining a municipal segregation law.
quote:http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/01/05/260006815/the-ugly-fascinating-history-of-the-word-racism
The Ugly, Fascinating History Of The Word 'Racism'
The Oxford English Dictionary's first recorded utterance of the word racism was by a man named Richard Henry Pratt in 1902. Pratt was railing against the evils of racial segregation.
Segregating any class or race of people apart from the rest of the people kills the progress of the segregated people or makes their growth very slow. Association of races and classes is necessary to destroy racism and classism.
quote:So how do you end racism?
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
Ish Gebor has shown the evidence that white racism holds Afro-Americans (AAs) back, not the ability to accumulate wealth.
quote:So true.
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
Blacks putting their money together to make progress in the AA community will never work because whites do not want AAs to be independent.
quote:You can start by not acting like a black person online, that is a beginning.
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:So how do you end racism?
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
Ish Gebor has shown the evidence that white racism holds Afro-Americans (AAs) back, not the ability to accumulate wealth.
quote:So what's the solution?
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
Blacks putting their money together to make progress in the AA community will never work because whites do not want AAs to be independent.
quote:There are actual symposiums where prominent people speak on these issues. You should attend them.
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:So what's the solution?
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
Blacks putting their money together to make progress in the AA community will never work because whites do not want AAs to be independent.
quote:To my mind this has nothing to do with the KKK, confederates vs the Union or anything else. It is basically the fundamental founding principle of the colonial slave industrial complex which is what started in 1492. Racism is a fundamental core feature of all European colonial societies created over the last 500 years. Therefore, to try and break it up into pieces and call it KKK here or Confederates there and Apartheid here vs Jim Crow there is missing the fundamental point. White supremacy is a core founding principle on which all these societies and cultures since 1492 were built. Having things broken up and taken out of context only makes it easier for white society as a whole to duck responsibility for the whole system of white supremacy around the world. It is all one big mind game of trying to hide the obvious complicity across the board across all levels of white society in all areas geographically. Focusing on Confederate statues is just part of this mind game. As if other parts of the country were less racist when they werent.
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:After seeing Rachel Maddow's summary "Racism Is 'A Persistent Infection' In White American Culture", I understand that these were KKK members or KKK affiliated individuals, but very powerful.
Originally posted by Doug M:
And even after the war there was open racism towards blacks in the Northern states all legalized under Jim Crow laws. Meaning there were openly racist mayors, councilmen, police commissioners, fire commissioners, governors, supreme court justices University Presidents and so forth.
quote:It is certainly interesting to review this history. Their "racial segregation", Redlining was planned ahead years before the actual Act.
Originally posted by Doug M:
quote:https://stanfordreview.org/baltimores-legacy-of-racial-discrimination-b61a26128528
“Blacks should be quarantined in isolated slums in order to reduce the incidence of civil disturbance, to prevent the spread of communicable disease into the nearby White neighborhoods, and to protect property values among the White majority”
— J. Barry Mahool, 1910 Mayor of Baltimore, while explaining a municipal segregation law.
quote:http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/01/05/260006815/the-ugly-fascinating-history-of-the-word-racism
The Ugly, Fascinating History Of The Word 'Racism'
The Oxford English Dictionary's first recorded utterance of the word racism was by a man named Richard Henry Pratt in 1902. Pratt was railing against the evils of racial segregation.
Segregating any class or race of people apart from the rest of the people kills the progress of the segregated people or makes their growth very slow. Association of races and classes is necessary to destroy racism and classism.
quote:http://gizmodo.com/oregon-was-founded-as-a-racist-utopia-1539567040
Waddles Coffee Shop in Portland, Oregon was a popular restaurant in the 1950s for both locals and travelers alike. The drive-in catered to America’s postwar obsession with car culture, allowing people to get coffee and a slice of pie without even leaving their vehicle. But if you happened to be black, the owners of Waddles implored you to keep on driving. The restaurant had a sign outside with a very clear message: “White Trade Only — Please.”
It’s the kind of scene from the 1950s that’s so hard for many Americans to imagine happening outside of the Jim Crow South. How could a progressive, northern city like Portland have allowed a restaurant to exclude non-white patrons? This had to be an anomaly, right? In reality it was far too common in Oregon, a state that was explicitly founded as a kind of white utopia.
America’s history of racial discrimination is most commonly taught as a southern issue. That’s certainly how I learned about it while going to Minnesota public schools in the 1980s and 90s. White people outside of the South seem to learn about the Civil War and civil rights movements from an incredibly safe (and often judgmental) distance.
quote:Ever heard of the Knights of The Golden Circle?
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:http://www.history.com/topics/american-civil-war/nathan-bedford-forrest
Nathan Bedford Forrest (1821-1877) was a Confederate general during the Civil War (1861-65). Despite having no formal military training, Forrest rose from the rank of private to lieutenant general, serving as a cavalry officer at numerous engagements including the Battles of Shiloh, Chickamauga, Brice’s Crossroads and Second Franklin. Known for his maxim “get there first with the most men,” Forrest was relentless in harassing Union forces during the Vicksburg Campaign in 1862 and 1863, and conducted successful raiding operations on federal supplies and communication lines throughout the war. In addition to his ingenious cavalry tactics, Forrest is also remembered for his controversial involvement in the Battle of Fort Pillow in April 1864, when his troops massacred black soldiers following a Union surrender. After the Civil War Forrest worked as a planter and railroad president, and served as the first grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. He died in 1877 at the age of 56.
quote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_Golden_Circle
George W. L. Bickley, an Indiana-born doctor, editor, and "adventurer" who lived in Cincinnati, founded the association.[2] Records of the KGC convention held in 1860 state that the organization "originated at Lexington, Kentucky, on the fourth day of July 1854, by five gentlemen who came together on a call made by Gen. George Bickley".[3] He organized the first castle, or local branch, in Cincinnati in 1854. Hounded by creditors, he left Cincinnati in the late 1850s and traveled through the East and South, promoting an expedition to Mexico. The group's original goal was to provide a force to colonize the northern part of Mexico and the West Indies. This would extend pro-slavery interests.
quote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dum_Diversas
Dum Diversas (English: Until different) is a papal bull issued on 18 June 1452 by Pope Nicholas V. It authorized Afonso V of Portugal to conquer Saracens and pagans and consign them to "perpetual servitude".[1][2] Pope Calixtus III reiterated the bull in 1456 with Inter Caetera (not to be confused with Alexander VI's), renewed by Pope Sixtus IV in 1481 and Pope Leo X in 1514 with Precelse denotionis. The concept of the consignment of exclusive spheres of influence to certain nation states was extended to the Americas in 1493 by Pope Alexander VI with Inter caetera.
quote:As far as Asians go, we need to stop lumping them in with our struggle. Asians are benefiting from all the fighting and dying that black folks did in the 50s and 60s when Asians couldn't come here. So most Asians who are in America today have never faced any racism. They came from intact communities with their own culture and language which they are allowed to maintain in America as opposed to Africans being stripped of their language and culture. They come from among the best and brightest elements within their respective communities and are not the poor and uneducated masses that you see all over places like India and China. They were educated primarily in Asian primary and high schools before coming to America for college and therefore weren't affected by any form of education discrimination. And more importantly these people aren't here to fight racism and especially not to fight racism against black folks. They are being allowed into the country to be a buffer against blacks and to be used as a brain drain to help America and the West continue to dominate Asia economically and socially. So even though it is blacks that fought, struggled and sacrificed for America to change and make it possible to come here, the first thing they do is to spit in black folks faces and kick them in the face as a sign of appreciation.... (See black folks keeping Asians from getting into college, affirmative action is racist as an example).
Originally posted by lamin:
quote:. That's not the right question.
So how do you end racism in America?
The first question is how could blacks gain parity with Asians and Jews in terms educational attainment and become as economically independent and wealthy as those 2 groups?
The second question is how could blacks gain parity with Asians in terms of incarceration rates and relations to the police?
quote:Why bother complaining about what you cannot change?
Originally posted by Doug M:
To my mind this has nothing to do with the KKK, confederates vs the Union or anything else. It is basically the fundamental founding principle of the colonial slave industrial complex which is what started in 1492. Racism is a fundamental core feature of all European colonial societies created over the last 500 years. Therefore, to try and break it up into pieces and call it KKK here or Confederates there and Apartheid here vs Jim Crow there is missing the fundamental point. White supremacy is a core founding principle on which all these societies and cultures since 1492 were built. Having things broken up and taken out of context only makes it easier for white society as a whole to duck responsibility for the whole system of white supremacy around the world. It is all one big mind game of trying to hide the obvious complicity across the board across all levels of white society in all areas geographically. Focusing on Confederate statues is just part of this mind game. As if other parts of the country were less racist when they werent.
For example: almost every state in the country was founded on the principle of free land and resources for white people but segregation and limited rights or immigration for blacks.
So if you are going to tear down the "rebel flag" because it represents racism then you should also tear down the American flag
quote:The KKK eventually became a structure of the racist ideology that already existed. That is what I am saying. It's not like every white individual thinks like this. But these folks had power and influence, which formed society.
Originally posted by Doug M:
To my mind this has nothing to do with the KKK, confederates vs the Union or anything else. It is basically the fundamental founding principle of the colonial slave industrial complex which is what started in 1492. Racism is a fundamental core feature of all European colonial societies created over the last 500 years. Therefore, to try and break it up into pieces and call it KKK here or Confederates there and Apartheid here vs Jim Crow there is missing the fundamental point. White supremacy is a core founding principle on which all these societies and cultures since 1492 were built. Having things broken up and taken out of context only makes it easier for white society as a whole to duck responsibility for the whole system of white supremacy around the world. It is all one big mind game of trying to hide the obvious complicity across the board across all levels of white society in all areas geographically. Focusing on Confederate statues is just part of this mind game. As if other parts of the country were less racist when they werent.
quote:LOL Another B.S. post by the lioness!!!
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Why bother complaining about what you cannot change?
Originally posted by Doug M:
To my mind this has nothing to do with the KKK, confederates vs the Union or anything else. It is basically the fundamental founding principle of the colonial slave industrial complex which is what started in 1492. Racism is a fundamental core feature of all European colonial societies created over the last 500 years. Therefore, to try and break it up into pieces and call it KKK here or Confederates there and Apartheid here vs Jim Crow there is missing the fundamental point. White supremacy is a core founding principle on which all these societies and cultures since 1492 were built. Having things broken up and taken out of context only makes it easier for white society as a whole to duck responsibility for the whole system of white supremacy around the world. It is all one big mind game of trying to hide the obvious complicity across the board across all levels of white society in all areas geographically. Focusing on Confederate statues is just part of this mind game. As if other parts of the country were less racist when they werent.
For example: almost every state in the country was founded on the principle of free land and resources for white people but segregation and limited rights or immigration for blacks.
So if you are going to tear down the "rebel flag" because it represents racism then you should also tear down the American flag
Further, anybody who pays taxes in America is a participant in white supremacy, a citizen of the empire
Now watch Ish Gebor step in an try to save Doug.
Doug has no solutions, he just cries endlessly.
He is going to die an old man in America having changed nothing but having complained the whole time
quote:Racism can only end with an intervention by God.
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:You can start by not acting like a black person online, that is a beginning.
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:So how do you end racism?
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
Ish Gebor has shown the evidence that white racism holds Afro-Americans (AAs) back, not the ability to accumulate wealth.
quote:That is a big guess and there's no way of knowing who the most hated group is
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
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AAs are the most hated group on earth,
quote:All of American society and the institutions within it are affected by racism because the country was built from the ground up based on it. That is all I am saying. Racism is a core principle and ideology behind the whole colonial enterprise that expanded from Europe starting 500 years ago. The KKK is simply one aspect of it. Again, people should not isolate racism to one part or one group or one slice of American society because ALL of it is built on it. It is like saying only the Voortrekkers were racist in South Africa. But obviously the British and Dutch and every other institution built by them along with every social structure was similarly racist towards blacks. White supremacy is an all encompassing concept, you can't speak of it and talk of only one part of society because the concept is about complete dominance in all areas of human life.
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:The KKK eventually became a structure of the racist ideology that already existed. That is what I am saying. It's not like every white individual thinks like this. But these folks had power and influence, which formed society.
Originally posted by Doug M:
To my mind this has nothing to do with the KKK, confederates vs the Union or anything else. It is basically the fundamental founding principle of the colonial slave industrial complex which is what started in 1492. Racism is a fundamental core feature of all European colonial societies created over the last 500 years. Therefore, to try and break it up into pieces and call it KKK here or Confederates there and Apartheid here vs Jim Crow there is missing the fundamental point. White supremacy is a core founding principle on which all these societies and cultures since 1492 were built. Having things broken up and taken out of context only makes it easier for white society as a whole to duck responsibility for the whole system of white supremacy around the world. It is all one big mind game of trying to hide the obvious complicity across the board across all levels of white society in all areas geographically. Focusing on Confederate statues is just part of this mind game. As if other parts of the country were less racist when they werent.
quote:http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/a_f/espada/roosevelt.htm
There is one feature in the expansion of the peoples of white, or European, blood during the past four centuries which should never be lost sight of, especially by those who denounce such expansion on moral grounds. On the whole, the movement has been fraught with lasting benefit to most of the peoples already dwelling in the lands over which the expansion took place. Of course any such general statement as this must be understood with the necessary reservations. Human nature being what it is, no movement lasting for four centuries and extending in one shape or another over the major part of the world could go on without cruel injustices being done at certain places and in certain times. Occasionally, although not very frequently, a mild and kindly race has been treated with wanton, brutal, and ruthless inhumanity by the white intruders. Moreover, mere savages, whose type of life was so primitive as to be absolutely incompatible with the existence of civilization, inevitably died out from the regions across which their sparse bands occasionally flitted, when these regions became filled with a dense population; they died out when they were kindly treated as quickly as when they were badly treated, for the simple reason that they were so little advanced that the conditions of life necessary to their existence were incompatible with any form of higher and better existence. It is also true that, even where great good has been done to the already existing inhabitants, where they have thriven under the new rule, it has sometimes brought with it discontent from the very fact that it has brought with it a certain amount of well-being and a certain amount of knowledge, so that people have learned enough to feel discontented and have prospered enough to be able to show their discontent. Such ingratitude is natural, and must be reckoned with as such; but it is also both unwarranted and foolish, and the fact of its existence in any given case does not justify any change of attitude on our part.
On the whole, and speaking generally, one extraordinary fact of this expansion of the European races is that with it has gone an increase in population and well-being among the natives of the countries where the expansion has taken place. As a result of this expansion there now live outside of Europe over a hundred million of people wholly of European blood and many millions more partly of European blood; and as another result there are now on the whole more people, of native blood in the regions where these hundred million intruders dwell than there were when the intruders went thither. In America the Indians of the West Indies were well-nigh exterminated, wantonly and cruelly. The merely savage tribes, both in North and South America, who were very few in number, have much decreased or have vanished, and grave wrongs have often been committed against them as well as by them. But all of the Indians who had attained to an even low grade of industrial and social efficiency have remained in the land, and have for the most part simply been assimilated with the intruders, the assimilation marking on the whole a very considerable rise in their conditions. Taking into account the Indians of pure blood, and the mixed bloods in which the Indian element is large, it is undoubtedly true that the Indian population of America is larger today than it was when Columbus discovered the continent, and stands on a far higher plane of happiness and efficiency. In Australia the few savages tend to die out simply because their grade of culture is so low that nothing can be done with them; doubtless occasional brutalities have been committed by white settlers but these brutalities were not an appreciable factor in the dying out of th natives. In India and Java there has been a great increase in well-being and population under the English and the Dutch, and the advance made has been in striking contrast to what has occurred during the same period in the near-by lands which have remained under native rule. In Egypt, in the Philippines, in Algiers, the native people have thriven under the rule of the foreigner, advancing as under no circumstances could they possibly have advanced if left to themselves, the increase in population going hand in hand with the increase in general well-being. In the Soudan, Mahdism during the ten years of its unchecked control was responsible for the death of over half the population and meant physical and moral ruin, a fact which should be taken into account by the perverted pseudo-philanthropy which fails to recognize the enormous advantages conferred by the English occupation of the Soudan, if not on the English themselves, certainly on the natives and on humanity at large. In the same way the Russian advance into Turkestan has meant the real advance in the well-being of the people, as well as the spread of civilization. In Natal the English found an empty desert; because of the peace they established it has filled up so densely with natives as to create very serious and totally new problems. There have been very dark spots in the European conquest and control of Africa, but on the whole the African regions which during the past century have seen the greatest cruelty, degradation, and suffering, the greatest diminution of population, are those where native control has been unchecked. The advance has been made in the regions that have been under European control or influence; that have been profoundly influenced by European administrators, and by European and American missionaries. Of course the best that can happen to any people that has not already a high civilization of its own is to assimilate and profit by American or European ideas, the ideas of civilization and Christianity, without submitting to alien control; but such control, in spite of all its defects, is in a very large number of cases the prerequisite condition to the moral and material advance of the peoples who dwell in the darker corners of the earth. Where the control is exercised brutally; where it is made use of merely to exploit the natives, without regard to their physical or moral well-being; it should be unsparingly criticised, and there should be resolute insistence on amendment and reform. But we must not, because of occasional wrong-doing, blind ourselves to the fact that on the whole the white administrator and the Christian missionary have exercised a profound and wholesome influence for good in savage regions.
Let me illustrate what I mean by particularly alluding to three cases--Algiers, India, and the Philippines. The North African coast was a mere nest of pirates during the first decades of the nineteenth century. Punitive expeditions were sent against these pirates again and again, but they could not be permanently suppressed by such expeditions, and all the great commercial nations were forced to pay them a more or less thinly disguised tribute or blackmail. The United States was among that number. It was the French conquest of Algiers which put a final stop to this blackmail; and it also put a stop, to the unspeakable barbarism and cruelty inevitably attendant upon the slave-hunting piracy of the dwellers in the independent North African states. In other words, the independence of these states was a menace to every peaceful people, and incidentally it meant dreadful wrong and injustice within the states themselves. Algiers is far better off in every way under French rule than it was eighty years ago, before the French came into the land, and it is far better off in every way than is the neighboring state of Morocco at the present time; and this simply and solely because the neighboring state of Morocco continues to enjoy much the same kind of independent self-government that Algiers enjoyed until the French went there.
In India we encounter the most colossal example history affords of the successful administration by men of European blood of a thickly populated region. in another continent. It is the greatest feat of the kind that has been performed since the break-up of the Roman Empire. Indeed, it is a greater feat than was performed under the Roman Empire. Unquestionably mistakes have been made; it would indicate qualities literally superhuman if so gigantic a task had been accomplished without mistakes. It is easy enough to point out shortcomings; but the fact remains that the successful administration of the Indian Empire by the English has been one of the most notable and most admirable achievements of the white race during the past two centuries. On the whole it has been for the immeasurable benefit of the natives of India themselves. Suffering has been caused in particular cases and at particular times to these natives; much more often, I believe, by well-intentioned ignorance or bad judgment than by any moral obliquity. But on the whole there has been a far more resolute effort to do justice, a far more resolute effort to secure fair treatment for the humble and the oppressed during the days of English rule in India than during any other period of recorded Indian history. England does not draw a penny from India for English purposes; she spends for India the revenues raised in India; and they are spent for the benefit of the Indians themselves. Undoubtedly India is a less pleasant place than formerly for the heads of tyrannical states. There is now little or no room in it for successful freebooter chieftains, for the despots who lived in gorgeous splendor while under their cruel rule the immense mass of their countrymen festered in sodden misery. But the mass of the people have been and are far better off than ever before, and far better off than they would now be if English control were overthrown or withdrawn. Indeed, if English control were now withdrawn from India, the whole peninsula would become a chaos of bloodshed and violence; till the weaker peoples, and the most industrious and law-abiding, would be plundered. and forced to submit to indescribable wrong and oppression; and the only beneficiaries among the natives would be the lawless, violent, and bloodthirsty. I have no question that there are reforms to be advanced--this is merely another way of saying that the government has been human; I have also no question that there is being made and will be made a successful effort to accomplish these reforms. But the great salient fact is that the presence of the English in India, like the presence of the English in Egypt and the Soudan, of the French in Algiers, of the Russians in Turkestan, of the Germans in Southwest Africa and East Africa (and of all these peoples, and of other white peoples, in many other places), has been for the advantage of mankind. Every well-wisher of mankind, every true friend of humanity, should realize that the part England has played in India has been to the immeasurable advantage of India, and for the honor and profit of civilization, and should feel profound satisfaction in the stability and permanence of English rule. I have seen many American missionaries who have come from India, and I cannot overstate the terms of admiration in which they speak of the English rule in India, and of the incalculable benefits it has conferred and is conferring upon the natives.
Finally, take our own experience in the Philippines. Spain finally lost power to be of benefit to the islands; but do not forget that Spain accomplished very, very much for them during more than two centuries; and that the islands owe their present possibilities to the fact that the Spaniards took possession of them. Then we came in. I am sure that when international history is written, from the standpoint of acclaiming international justice, one chapter will tell with heartiest praise what our people have done in the Philippines. Exactly as, in the Caribbean Sea we have endeavored to give genuine and disinterested help to the independent peoples of Cuba and San Domingo, so, in the same spirit--though the task is of quite different character--we are endeavoring to educate and train the native races under our sovereignty in the Philippines. in our treatment of the Filipinos we have acted up to the highest standard that has yet been set as marking the proper way in which a powerful and advanced nation should treat a weaker people. Cuba we are at this moment leaving for the second time, to work out a destiny which we now hope and believe will be one of stable and orderly independence and prosperity. In the Philippines we are constantly giving an increasing measure of self-government. Of course, in one sense of the word self-government can never be bestowed by outsiders upon any people. It must be achieved by themselves. It means in this sense primarily self-control, self-restraint, and if those qualities do not exist--that is, if the people are unable to govern themselves--then, as there must be government somewhere, it has to come from outside. But we are constantly giving to the people of the Philippines an increasing share in, an increasing opportunity to learn by practice, the difficult art of self-government. If we had abandoned them at the outset to their own devices, if we had shirked our duty and sailed out of the islands, leaving them in a bloody welter of confusion, the chief sufferers would have been the Philippine people themselves. We are leading them forward steadily in the right direction and we are doing it because our people at home desire that they shall be treated right, and because our people in the islands, in the civil government, in the army, and among the missionary representatives of the various creeds work primarily for the advancement of the people among whom they dwell. I believe that I am speaking with historic accuracy and impartiality when I say that the American treatment of and attitude toward the Filipino people, in its combination of disinterested ethical purpose and sound common sense, marks a new and long stride forward, in advance of all steps that have hitherto been taken, along the path of wise and proper treatment of weaker by stronger races.
Now in speaking tonight I wish to lay stress upon the missionary side of the general work in the foreign lands. America has for over a century done its share of missionary work. We who stay at home should as a matter of duty give cordial support to those who in a spirit of devotion to all that is highest in human nature, spend the best part of their lives in trying to carry civilization and Christianity into lands which have hitherto known little or nothing of either. The work is vast, and it is done under many and widely varied conditions., Personally I have always been particularly interested, for instance, in the extraordinary work done by the American schools and colleges in the Turkish Empire, both Turkey in Europe and Turkey in Asia; a work which has borne such wonderful fruit among the Bulgarians, among Syrian and Armenian Christians, and also among the Mohammedans; and this although among the Mohammedans there has been no effort to convert them, simply an effort to make them, good citizens, to make them vie with their fellow citizens who are Christians in showing those qualities which it should be the pride of every creed to develop; and the present movement to introduce far-reaching and genuine reforms, political and social, in Turkey, an effort with which we all keenly sympathize, is one in which these young Moslems, educated at the American schools and colleges, are especially fitted to take part.
Bishop Hartzell's work has been done in Africa, the continent in which of all others there has been the most need for Christian work, and in which that work shows signs of reaching its widest development. It has been indeed a Dark Continent, and some of the white men who have gone thither have by their acts deepened the gloom. Let us as a race be thankful that so many other men have gone thither to strive for the uplift of the people; to strive for the betterment of conditions. Our own country has in the past committed grave wrong against Africa for which it should amply atone, and no better atonement can be made than that which is being made by the American missionaries of every creed and church, who are now doing so much in almost every corner of Africa for the physical, the intellectual, and the moral betterment of the people. I hope there will be the most hearty support of these men, who in far-off regions are fighting for progress in things of the spirit no less than in things of the body. Let us help them to make the missions centres of industrial no less than of ethical teaching; for unless we raise the savage in industrial efficiency we cannot permanently keep him on a high plane of moral efficiency, nor yet can we render him able to hold his own in the world.
quote:I am talking about basic sociology and history. You need to read the writings of the Europeans over the last century and a half when they openly spoke on how they really felt about races and racism. In their minds their purpose is to mold the world into a form that is good for white supremacy, which means a racial pyramid where whites are on the top and other racial combination and groups are at some level below that with blacks on the very bottom. Of course this is not a natural historical fact of nature, so the only way to bring that about is open warfare, genocide, destruction, warfare, legalized racism, economic dislocation, mass migration and eugenics. America is not a "natural" occurrence because all the people here are immigrants from somewhere else, following the "hopes and dreams" held up by the white settlers and colonists who committed genocide and oppression to create the American nation. No different than the Spanish and Portuguese in Central and South America or the British and French in Canada. There is no such thing as "good" genocide. But the hypocritical lying racists will sit up here and tell you with a straight face that genocide is a normal part of history and part of the "greater good" of mankind, of course ONLY when white people are the ones doing the genocide. If tables were turned and white people were the ones being killed as part of the genocide, oh then it is bad and evil and everybody must fight to end such genocide. But not so much when white folks are the ones committing the crimes... This is a standard talking point and philosophical cornerstone of racism going back 500 years. As whites can "do no wrong" as part of their "global crusade" sanctioned by the Christian church (which has always been engaging in sexual misconduct). And it only works when they have complete domination in all spheres of human activity. If other people and other cultures had superior "homegrown" technology and culture to challenge whites then it would be a whole different ball game.
Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova:
Doug says
As far as Asians go, we need to stop lumping them in with our struggle. Asians are benefiting from all
the fighting and dying that black folks did in the 50s and 60s when Asians couldn't come here. So most
Asians who are in America today have never faced any racism.
A bit misleading. Though not to the same extent as blacks, Asians have been around in the US
quite a while and faced discrimination, the Chinese for example who were often massacred
and driven out in te 1880s- so that the saying arose: "Not a Chinaman's chance"..
Then there is the case of the Japanese internees.. plenty of racism there. YOur point
seems to apply more to RECENT Asian arrivals.. You fail to account for hundreds of thousands
already IN PLACE before that who also kept on increasing via natural population growth.
And more importantly these people aren't here to fight racism and especially not to fight racism against
black folks. They are being allowed into the country to be a buffer against blacks and to be used as a brain
drain to help America and the West continue to dominate Asia economically and socially.
Agan somewhat misleading. Asian immigration is not to help the West dominate Asia
economically and socially. How so? Give a concrete example of your claim.
If anything, that immigration is more helpful to Asians, as they get the opportunity
to tap into Western networks of advanced technoogy and knowledge that they then can
take to Asia and expand. Nothing wrong with this. The Japanese did this extensively
to modernize and hold their own against white competitors, in turn becoming strong
hegemons themselves in East Asia. By 1905 they were defeating European powers
on the high seas naval battles. By 1941 they had the best integrated carrier systems,
the best pilots, and in those initial years, the best carrier fighter plane, the famous
Mitsubishi Zero. The Chinese are now doing the exact same thing- getting as much advanced
knowledge as possible from the West, and growing stronger as a result. They of course
supplied the West with several key items of technology that enabled Western dominance
namely gunpowder, printing and the compass, back in the day.
And is brain drain necessarily "bad"? CHina has no shortage of people training to be engineers, scientists
etc, nor does India necessarily. In fact the Asians are using their internal education as an "export".
Juat as some nations export copper or rice, so their educational systems churn out graduates
for "export" to the West. Damn smart strategy.
https://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2015/01/30/the-surprising-secret-of-indias-success-could-be-its-brain-drain/
So even though it is blacks that fought, struggled and sacrificed for America to change and make it possible to
come here, the first thing they do is to spit in black folks faces and kick them in the face as a sign of appreciation
This indeed may the the case with SOME. As Richard Pryor once said in one of his
routines, the first thing some fireigners learn when they come to America is how
to say "NIG&#%&r" 30 years later, some black folk are running around talkin bout
how if you add an "a" to the ending, rather than an "r" - its not all bad..
quote:http://galton.org/letters/africa-for-chinese/AfricaForTheChinese.htm
Africa For The Chinese.
To The Editor of The Times.
Sir, - In a few days Sir Bartle Frere will return to England, and public attention will be directed to the East Coast of Africa. I am desirous of availing myself of the opportunity to ventilate some speculations of my own, which you may, perhaps, consider of sufficient interest to deserve publication in the Times. My proposal is to make the encouragement of the Chinese settlements at one or more suitable places on the East Coast of Africa a par of our national policy, in the belief that the Chinese immigrants would not only maintain their position, but that they would multiply and their descendants supplant the inferior Negro race. I should expect the large part of the African seaboard, now sparsely occupied by lazy, palavering savages living under the nominal sovereignty of the Zanzibar, or Portugal, might in a few years be tenanted by industrious, order loving Chinese, living either as a semi-detached dependency of China, or else in perfect freedom under their own law. In the latter case their would be similar to that of the inhabitants of Liberia, in West Africa, the territory which was purchased 50 years ago and set apart as an independent State for the reception of freed negroes from America.
The opinion of the public on the real worth of the Negro race has halted between the extreme views which have been long and loudly proclaimed. It refuses to follow those of the early abolitionists, that all the barbarities in Africa are to be traced to the effects of a foreign slave trade, because travelers continually speak of similar barbarities existing in regions to which the slave trade has not penetrated. Captain Colomb has written a well-argued chapter on this matter, in his recent volume. On the other hand, the opinion of the present day repudiates the belief that the negro is an extremely inferior being, because there are notorious instances of negroes possessing high intelligence and culture, some of whom acquire large fortunes in commerce, and others become considerable men in other walks of life. The truth appears to be that individuals of the mental caliber I have just described are much more exceptional in the negro than in the Anglo-Saxon race, and that average negroes possess too little intellect, self-reliance, and self-control to make it possible for them to sustain the burden of any respectable form of civilization without a large measure of external guidance and support. The Chinaman is a being of another kind, who is endowed with a remarkable aptitude for a high material civilization. He is seen to the least advantage in his own country, where a temporary dark age still prevails, which has not sapped the genius of the race, though it has stunted the developed the of each member of it, by the rigid enforcement of an effete system of classical education which treats originality as a social crime. All the bad parts of his character, as his lying and servility, spring from timidity due to an education that has cowed him, and no treatment is better calculated to remedy that evil than location in a free settlement. The natural capacity of the Chinaman shows itself by the success with which, notwithstanding his timidity, he competes with strangers, wherever he may reside. The Chinese emigrants possess an extraordinary instinct for political and social organization; they contrive to establish for themselves a police and internal government, and they give no trouble to their rulers so long as they are left to manage those matters by themselves. They are good-tempered, frugal, industrious, saving, commercially inclined, and extraordinarily prolific. They thrive in all countries, the natives of the Southern provinces being perfectly able to labor and multiply in the hottest climates. Of all known varieties or mankind there is none so appropriate as the Chinaman to become the future occupant of the enormous regions which lie between the tropics, whose extent is far more vast than it appears, from the cramped manner in which those latitudes are pictured in the ordinary maps of the world. But take a globe and examine it, and consider the huge but poorly-peopled bulk of Africa, by whose side the areas of India and of China look insignificant, and think what a field lies there for the development of a suitable race. The Hindoo cannot fulfil the required conditions nearly as well as the Chinaman, for he is inferior to him in strength, industry, aptitude for saving, business habits, and prolific power. The Arab is little more than an eater up of other men's produce; he is a destroyer rather than a creator, and he is unprolific.
quote:http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/17/investing/chinese-rich-immigration-hurun-report/index.html
Chinese millionaires are warming up to Canada and cooling on Britain. But they're still red-hot for the United States.
That's according to a survey by research firm Hurun Report and Visas Consulting Group that tracks immigration trends among Chinese individuals worth between 10 million and 200 million yuan ($1.5 million - $30 million).
The U.S. retained its title as the top destination for rich Chinese emigrants for a third consecutive year. Meanwhile, Canada surpassed the U.K. for the first time to become the second-most popular choice.
quote:http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/12/asia/china-education-agencies/index.html
Beijing (CNN)Jessica Zhang, a 21-year-old Chinese student from Jiangsu Province, says her English wasn't strong enough to fill in her U.S. college admission form.
So her parents paid three consultants $4,500 to fill out the application, write her personal essay and compose teacher recommendation letters.
They also arranged her visa and communicated with her prospective colleges -- eight ranked between 40 and 100 on the U.S. News & World Report College rankings.
"It would have been too much hassle if I had applied myself," says Zhang, which is not her real name.
In August, she'll start her undergraduate career with an open major at a Midwestern university, in the United States. She says she's unaware that her application could be considered fraudulent and even get her expelled.
quote:https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/02/who-has-the-largest-migrant-population/
Over 3 million new migrants arrive in towns and cities around the world every week. Right now, the urban population represents roughly 3.9 billion people and is expected to grow to 6.4 billion by 2050. The rapid growth of urban areas is nothing new, but the kind of cities that draw the most migrants is changing.
According to the World Migration Report 2015, almost one in five migrants live in a "gateway city" such as London, Sydney or New York, where migrants make up a third of the local population. The future of migration, however, will be mostly felt in emerging economies including South Africa, Brazil and India, and within East Asia.
quote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lauren-harris/education-and-immigration_b_5609706.html
The United States is seeing increasing numbers of international students. According to the International Students Report, 819,644 international studied in U.S. colleges and universities in 2013. U.S. Immigration and Custom Enforcement’s Homeland Securities Investigations projects that number will likely increase significantly for the 2014 school year. Still, some international students are turning to other countries because of their easier immigration policies that allow students to remain in the country once they graduate. But what’s the problem with having these students leave once they graduate? Plenty.
International students have enrolled at American institutions and this is good for the bottom line of these schools. Administrators at these institutions say such students promote the diversity and global perspectives on campus, but these students provide more. The economic downturn of the past five years has forced a decline in state spending at the universities. The numbers reveal a 28 percent reduction on higher education spending and out-of-state and international students have kept these schools in the black.
Francesco Sanchez, the undersecretary for international trade at the Commerce Department, has said that the U.S. has “no better export.” Former Secretary of Treasury, and former Harvard president Larry Summers, acknowledges that “exporting higher education” is a vital part of his own recommendations for encouraging economic growth.
While some international students gain financial assistance from U.S. universities, it is nowhere near the amount that is available to American students. More often than not the international students who study here pay full fare, or their governments pay a high percentage of their tuition costs, and that makes them highly desirable to schools.
Of particular interest, a full 35 percent of the advanced degrees these students seek is in STEM fields: science, technology, engineering, and math. Students pursuing degrees in STEM is good for the future of American business if — emphasis added, they are allowed to remain in the U.S. once graduating. When these international students graduate we lose highly trained and valuable human capital. When they are sent packing to their home countries, they take potential businesses and the possibility of hiring Americans for those job openings with them.
quote:http://www.sfexaminer.com/green-cards-wealthy/
If you have access to $500,000, it is possible to buy your way into America. No need to stand in line; no need to wait years. Hand over the money and take your papers.
In 1990, Congress created the EB-5 visa program to promote economic vibrancy through job creation. It became possible for rich immigrants to obtain a green card by investing $1 million in a business with the condition that at least 10 jobs would be created through the investment; or $500,000 in a business project in a rural area — one that has had a severe shortfall in jobs, with an unemployment rate of at least 150 percent of the national average; or $500,000 as part of a regional center — a firm that sponsors projects for EB-5 investments.
There are 838 approved regional centers in America, and 203 of those are in California. In San Francisco, Golden Gate Global is an EB-5 Regional Center. GGG is behind the Hunters Point Shipyard project, which has floated seven EB-5 funds for infrastructure installations and home construction. This 775-acre project is pitched as being San Francisco’s “largest-ever development” on the waterfront with a projected 12,000 housing units and expansive commercial, retail and recreational spaces.
Despite opposition, Congress approved the EB-5 program on Dec. 15, 2015. The program will continue as before until Sept. 30, 2016.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) are outspoken critics of the program. Grassley called it a program with “serious problems and serious vulnerabilities.”
The vulnerabilities he lists include no background checks on anyone associated with a regional center; investment levels not adjusted in 25 years; regional centers not required to comply with securities laws; and regional center operators possibly fleecing foreign nationals above and beyond the investment requirements with little oversight.
There have been several cases of investors defrauded. The SEC filed a $68 million federal fraud complaint last year against Luca International and its CEO in U.S. District Court in San Francisco for “running a Ponzi-like scheme” and drawing Chinese immigrants into EB-5 investments.
And then there’s the curious case of China supplying 83.5 percent of EB-5 investors in 2015. That looks like a red flag. Why is there not a more equitable distribution of countries providing investors?
quote:http://www.therealstreetz.com/2016/02/29/story-san-francisco-ghetto/
One of the most famous and luxurious cities in the world, the San Francisco ghetto often gets ignored or paid little attention to, especially with today’s gentrification of the once thriving black communities.
While the San Francisco black population is only 6% of over 800,000 people, with whites and Asians making up the majority and a total of 15% of the Mexican population, there are a few communities in the city.
The San Francisco ghetto and community are in areas like the Sunnydale Projects, the Mission District, Lakeview or the View, the infamous Hunters Point’s blocks and projects, project buildings on the streets of Connecticut, Missouri, and Dakota in Potrero Hill and the legendary Fillmore neighborhood, which is the most known and famous neighborhood of the San Francisco black population.
quote:https://www.dezeen.com/2016/10/24/david-adjaye-associates-masterplan-san-francisco-shipyard-revitalisation/
British firm Adjaye Associates has announced that it will serve as masterplan architect for the redevelopment of The San Francisco Shipyard neighbourhood.
The David Adjaye-led studio will work with developer FivePoint to revitalise the waterfront area in the city's Hunters Point district on the bay side.
Earmarked as one of the largest urban developments on the USA's west coast, the project will involve the construction of both housing and a commercial district.
New offices, labs, research facilities will be built among reclaimed heritage buildings and large pockets of public space and sports grounds.
"This is a project with incredible transformative potential," said Adjaye, who recently completed the National Museum of African American History and Culture in Washington DC.
Adjaye Associates will build on the work of IBI Architects, which completed the first phase of development. This second phase will be completed over the next five years .
Together with work at the nearby Candlestick Park site, the project will create 12,000 homes adjacent to more than 350 acres (142 hectares) of waterfront parks, trails and restored shoreline.
San Francisco is experiencing a wave of development after a period of stagnant architecture. Proposals by high-profile architects such as OMA, Studio Gang and Foster + Partners are set to transform its skyline and waterfront over the coming years.
Adjaye's other projects in the US include the Sugar Hill housing project in New York's Harlem and a red concrete art museum in Texas. He was recently awarded the London Design Medal, and will be part of the team to select the architect for next year's Serpentine Gallery Pavilion.
quote:https://www.dezeen.com/2016/10/24/david-adjaye-associates-masterplan-san-francisco-shipyard-revitalisation/
Hunters Point Shipyard redevelopment architect knighted by Queen Elizabeth II
Signed on as master planner for the anticipated Hunters Point Shipyard project phase two, British-Ghanaian architect David Adjaye, principal of Adjaye Associates, will add another esteemed plume to his cap—knighthood. The noted architect was named Knight Bachelor at Queen Elizabeth II’s annual New Year’s Honors.
The sovereign ruler bestowed Adjaye with the OBE recognition, according to the Central Chancery of the Orders of Knighthood at St. James's Palace, for being “one of the leading architects of his generation and a global cultural ambassador for the U.K.”
Regarding said honor, Adjaye said:
“I am truly honoured and humbled to receive a knighthood by Her Majesty the Queen for my contribution to architecture. I see this not as a personal celebration, but as a celebration of the vast potential—and responsibility—for architecture to effect positive social change. that we as architects have to bring something positive to the world. I am proud to continue to work in service of this mission as a global cultural ambassador for the UK.”
Last year, Adjaye talked to Curbed SF about the Hunters Point project underway. “The city’s north is beautifully served with urban spaces, but then down south it just goes off,” he said, adding, “We want to make a more natural looking edge to the bay. I’d like for this to be more than just a neighborhood. I’d like for it to be a gathering place for everyone who lives in the south.”
The Shipyard redevelopment project, where, among other things, two-bedroom condos will run in the $500K-$600K range, is one of many victories for the 50-year-old architect. He also helmed the Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of African American History & Culture on Washington D.C.’s National Mall.
quote:This explains it all.
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
quote:Racism can only end with an intervention by God.
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:You can start by not acting like a black person online, that is a beginning.
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:So how do you end racism?
Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
Ish Gebor has shown the evidence that white racism holds Afro-Americans (AAs) back, not the ability to accumulate wealth.
This is why AAs are the most hated group on earth, but we still modestly prosper.
quote:http://forward.com/opinion/national/369360/how-the-forward-introduced-jews-to-web-du-bois/
“When the immigrant from Eastern Europe meets the Negro in New York,” Dr. W. E. B. Du Bois told us, “he is curious. He has never before seen a colored man; he therefore gazes at him as something new and novel. In his next step, through the process of Americanization, the immigrant will be told to avoid the Negroes, not to have any dealings with them, etc., etc. and later the final step, he will unconsciously begin to absorb the current prejudices against Negroes.”
[…]
The Martyrdom Of The Negro
“But before the immigrant goes any further, he should be stopped and warned. The millions of Negroes in America represent the exploited and persecuted group, just as these wanderers from Russia and Poland and Romania represent that of their countries. And the persecuted group gets little chance to be understood by the foreigner. The press, society, all the domineering forces of the state are against it” — and for the first time in our conversation the Doctor’s brown eyes flamed up.
quote:—John A. Simpson, Matthew Wills (July 15, 2015)
Origins of the Confederate Lost Cause
The impassioned debate over the Confederate battle flag in South Carolina and throughout the nation is a subset of a larger debate about the historical interpretation of the Confederate States of America and the reasons for the Civil War. For some Southerners, the Civil War was a noble “Lost Cause.” This was once the reigning interpretation in the South and long influenced the historiography of the Civil War and its aftermath.
The Lost Cause mythos itself has a history: it was a post-Reconstruction invention to explain defeat in the Civil War and maintain a whites-only political system. It was, as John A. Simpson tells it, a militant form of “Confederate nostalgia” that had by 1913 “permanently stamped the cult of the ‘Lost Cause’ upon the national character.” The movie Birth of a Nation (1915) and the book (1936) and movie (1939) of Gone With the Wind were all popular cultural manifestations of this “cult.”
At its heart, the Lost Cause was a “mystique of chivalric Southern soldiers and the noble Confederate leadership embodied in Jefferson Davis” defending a way of life, state’s rights, even the original American Revolution, against a rapacious Northern industrial machine. The actual reason for the Confederacy’s existence, slavery and the power of a plantation economy based on it, didn’t play a large role in the myth, although continued white dominance of political power and the associated denial of humanity to black Southerners was very much the point of it.
To get a feel for the Lost Cause in all of its flowery rhetoric, this note from the Register of Kentucky State Historical Society of 1903, may suffice. In “Just A Word About the Lost Cause” “J.C.M.” praises the Confederate Daughters of the South who laid wreaths upon the graves of those who “lost their young, noble lives to defend the sweetest land on earth from degradation […].” The writer does take issue with the “unfortunate name of ‘Lost Cause'” when “the principle involved is a just cause, like the divine spirit of truth, is immortal, and, crushed to earth, will rise again and glow in the heavens, covering its defenders on earth with the glory of triumph.”
The Lost Cause was also a fight over who represented the Confederate past. Kevin M. Levin details the post-war career of William Mahone, a Confederate General turned businessman and politician. Mahone supported the Republicans when the vast majority of white Southerners were solidly Democratic.
Mahone was also the most powerful, and therefore most vilified, face of the Readjusters, an independent, biracial Virginia movement in the late 1870s which matched “white supremacy, black subordination and agrarian economy with democratic struggle, black political action, and a progressive economic outlook.” By 1883, though, the Readjusters were swept from office in Virginia. The planter elites, known as Bourbons, regained power, defeating a home-grown attempt at reconciliation and reconstruction. The long years of racist terror known as Jim Crow would follow.
quote:transvestites? lol
Originally posted by mena7:
Mena: I didnt want to post this article because i am not a fan of transvestite......
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off topic, deleted
the topic is Charlottesville and confederate monuments
-lioness
