But my opinion is,they could get much better money,if they stop asking money..
Nobady likes,when somebody ask money..
If they dont ask, u feel like,what a nice person..and u give a double tip
1. Dirty filthy, disgusting trash, every
f ucking where.
2. Greedy ass doormen, always havetheir hands out for tips.
3. The most inconsiderate drivers in the world, would rather run you over than let you cross.
4. The minute your foreign accent is revealed, the prices just went up, count on it.
5. Chaotic character, have you ever seen an Egyptian naturally form a line, they will knock you over, cut in front of you, or just rudely walk up and start talking to a merchant as if you are not ther.
6. Poor hygiene, its too fu cking hot to be exposed to smelly armits.
7. Beggars, beggars, beggars, everywhere
8. Why should I tip you for a f ucking roll of toilet tissue in a f ucking public restroom.
9. Dishonest taxi drivers, increase the price if you're foreign. Drive like bats out of hell, puts your life in danger.
10. Slow ass underpaid government workers, unless you tip them off.
In the time I have been here, I've learned not to trust any egyptian unless they have a prayer scar, those are usually the honest religious ones. The rest can kiss my assss!
quote:
Originally posted by tempted:
B4 anyone says otherwise, I just finished my exams, in 2 weeks I will be out of this hellhole.1. Dirty filthy, disgusting trash, every
f ucking where.2. Greedy ass doormen, always havetheir hands out for tips.
3. The most inconsiderate drivers in the world, would rather run you over than let you cross.
4. The minute your foreign accent is revealed, the prices just went up, count on it.
5. Chaotic character, have you ever seen an Egyptian naturally form a line, they will knock you over, cut in front of you, or just rudely walk up and start talking to a merchant as if you are not ther.
6. Poor hygiene, its too fu cking hot to be exposed to smelly armits.
7. Beggars, beggars, beggars, everywhere
8. Why should I tip you for a f ucking roll of toilet tissue in a f ucking public restroom.
9. Dishonest taxi drivers, increase the price if you're foreign. Drive like bats out of hell, puts your life in danger.
10. Slow ass underpaid government workers, unless you tip them off.
In the time I have been here, I've learned not to trust any egyptian unless they have a prayer scar, those are usually the honest religious ones. The rest can kiss my assss!
If these are problems to you, do something about it.
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Anyway, after all,it is small money..
But my opinion is,they could get much better money,if they stop asking money..
Nobady likes,when somebody ask money..
If they dont ask, u feel like,what a nice person..and u give a double tip
All my guest says same..egypt is very nice and intresting country..but,why they cant have fixed prices in the shops..why they run after us ..why they dont respect our private,why they touch and ask too much...
Egypt should make something to this problem..cause tourism is so important bisnes here..
If u understand ur own best, stop running after turist to try to get them to ur shop...they will come much easily,if nobady is bushig them..
Let them look around,they will buy..if they want..
Dont give crazy prices..u will lost their respect for u..they come angry with u..and leave ur shop..
After all,turist come to here for vacation..not to shopping.
quote:
Originally posted by tempted:
B4 anyone says otherwise, I just finished my exams, in 2 weeks I will be out of this hellhole.1. Dirty filthy, disgusting trash, every
f ucking where.2. Greedy ass doormen, always havetheir hands out for tips.
3. The most inconsiderate drivers in the world, would rather run you over than let you cross.
4. The minute your foreign accent is revealed, the prices just went up, count on it.
5. Chaotic character, have you ever seen an Egyptian naturally form a line, they will knock you over, cut in front of you, or just rudely walk up and start talking to a merchant as if you are not ther.
6. Poor hygiene, its too fu cking hot to be exposed to smelly armits.
7. Beggars, beggars, beggars, everywhere
8. Why should I tip you for a f ucking roll of toilet tissue in a f ucking public restroom.
9. Dishonest taxi drivers, increase the price if you're foreign. Drive like bats out of hell, puts your life in danger.
10. Slow ass underpaid government workers, unless you tip them off.
In the time I have been here, I've learned not to trust any egyptian unless they have a prayer scar, those are usually the honest religious ones. The rest can kiss my assss!
you've forgotton a very important point:
11. having to deal with racisit ever complainting expats like you who are suffering from a serious superiority complex
if you don't like it just leave man. if you're here for a marriage then take your wife and leave, and if you are here for a job, i'm sure you can find a good one somewhere else. so why don't you just leave?
puppy, shame on you.
i agree,that the way how Tempted says things..is not nice..
but so what..this forum is full of not nice things..
anyway, stop beeing so over sensitive about bad things in egypt..
i dont get upset,if people say bad things from my country.
this is life..everywhere is good and bad..
i can live in egypt,cause i know,that life in my country will be not so nice for my egyptian husband..
and life for me in egypt is ok..it is easy,it is normal "houselife"..
I didnt choice to live in egypt,but i can do it..this is not most awful country in the world
but surely my own country is better...for me.
like egypt is best place for egyptians..and foreigners,who like it..culture and so.
in every country,there is living people,who dont feel so comfortable..at least i dont make problems for anybody,just to my husband 
quote:
Originally posted by puppy:
wow...
I said something bad..or does truth hurt u mr/mss 7aya?
shame on u also.i agree,that the way how Tempted says things..is not nice..
but so what..this forum is full of not nice things..anyway, stop beeing so over sensitive about bad things in egypt..
i dont get upset,if people say bad things from my country.
this is life..everywhere is good and bad..
i can live in egypt,cause i know,that life in my country will be not so nice for my egyptian husband..
and life for me in egypt is ok..it is easy,it is normal "houselife"..
I didnt choice to live in egypt,but i can do it..this is not most awful country in the world
but surely my own country is better...for me.
like egypt is best place for egyptians..and foreigners,who like it..culture and so.
in every country,there is living people,who dont feel so comfortable..at least i dont make problems for anybody,just to my husband
i'm not sensitive about the bad things in my country i can disscuss them with anyone. but the discussion has to be an intelligent one, we can talk about the problems, we can try to see why they happen, and what the solution for them would be. but this guy is a racist and this post was only to taunt and insult the egyptians and you happily went on the ride. and that's why i said shame on you.
anyway you say you live in rehab thats 20 minutues away from me, so if you are feeling lonely i can pass by you, and we can go for coffee. and i can introduce you to some nice egyptians, and you'll know that this country has some great people and aspects.
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quote:
Originally posted by tempted:
B4 anyone says otherwise, I just finished my exams, in 2 weeks I will be out of this hellhole.1. Dirty filthy, disgusting trash, every
f ucking where.2. Greedy ass doormen, always havetheir hands out for tips.
3. The most inconsiderate drivers in the world, would rather run you over than let you cross.
4. The minute your foreign accent is revealed, the prices just went up, count on it.
5. Chaotic character, have you ever seen an Egyptian naturally form a line, they will knock you over, cut in front of you, or just rudely walk up and start talking to a merchant as if you are not ther.
6. Poor hygiene, its too fu cking hot to be exposed to smelly armits.
7. Beggars, beggars, beggars, everywhere
8. Why should I tip you for a f ucking roll of toilet tissue in a f ucking public restroom.
9. Dishonest taxi drivers, increase the price if you're foreign. Drive like bats out of hell, puts your life in danger.
10. Slow ass underpaid government workers, unless you tip them off.
In the time I have been here, I've learned not to trust any egyptian unless they have a prayer scar, those are usually the honest religious ones. The rest can kiss my assss!
where are you from?
tempted, believe me Egyptians can't wait to see the back of you with that attitude.
7aya, don't worry not all us foreigners are like that, I'm English and think Egypt is an amazing places. Yeah they have their problems but so does every place on Earth. The less racist thugs we have on this forum the better. Interesting how both 'tempted' and 'Katkut' only joined to spew this nonsense...
[This message has been edited by Pe@rson (edited 15 June 2005).]
quote:
Originally posted by tempted:
B4 anyone says otherwise, I just finished my exams, in 2 weeks I will be out of this hellhole.1. Dirty filthy, disgusting trash, every
f ucking where.2. Greedy ass doormen, always havetheir hands out for tips.
3. The most inconsiderate drivers in the world, would rather run you over than let you cross.
4. The minute your foreign accent is revealed, the prices just went up, count on it.
5. Chaotic character, have you ever seen an Egyptian naturally form a line, they will knock you over, cut in front of you, or just rudely walk up and start talking to a merchant as if you are not ther.
6. Poor hygiene, its too fu cking hot to be exposed to smelly armits.
7. Beggars, beggars, beggars, everywhere
8. Why should I tip you for a f ucking roll of toilet tissue in a f ucking public restroom.
9. Dishonest taxi drivers, increase the price if you're foreign. Drive like bats out of hell, puts your life in danger.
10. Slow ass underpaid government workers, unless you tip them off.
In the time I have been here, I've learned not to trust any egyptian unless they have a prayer scar, those are usually the honest religious ones. The rest can kiss my assss!
SOUNDS LIKE NEW YORK lol
The reality is Cairenes are very rude obnoxious ppl, maybe in Luxor or Alex, or even the readsea its different, bbut you cant tell me a damn thing about life in Cairo, even some Egyptians themselves hate it.
so fu ck you, if you dont like my opinion, I'm not gonna be some fake ass person pretending that life here is so fucking wonderful, it sucks, I hate it, and I am leaving. No one in all their honesty can say anything I said was a lie, stop being so damn fake, trying to impress the sensitive ass Egyptians like 7aya, fuc k her. The truth hurts, tell her fu cking countrymen to throw away their damn trash, filthy ass people, and stop trying to rob every damn foreigner here blind.
I dont mind paying more but dont try to fucking play me, I hate that **** about these people.
7aya, we dont have a superiority comple, but maybe your people have an inferiority complex and either think we are all rich or dumb, one or the other. It's not about race, even many Arab friends I have from the gulf, hate the Egyptian ways too. They told me thir countries and cleaner and more organized, so it has nothing to do with race, its the egyptian fu cked up ways, they need to change.
quote:
Originally posted by tempted:
Interesting you have a name like keepingitreal and being so fake. Believe it or not I was very open mided and gentle when I first came here, this country has changed me. No one can be real and admit that what I said is not the truth, especially if you live in Cairo. I have talked to many foeigners and they all feel the same way, ok, KEEPINGITFAKEThe reality is Cairenes are very rude obnoxious ppl, maybe in Luxor or Alex, or even the readsea its different, bbut you cant tell me a damn thing about life in Cairo, even some Egyptians themselves hate it.
so fu ck you, if you dont like my opinion, I'm not gonna be some fake ass person pretending that life here is so fucking wonderful, it sucks, I hate it, and I am leaving. No one in all their honesty can say anything I said was a lie, stop being so damn fake, trying to impress the sensitive ass Egyptians like 7aya, fuc k her. The truth hurts, tell her fu cking countrymen to throw away their damn trash, filthy ass people, and stop trying to rob every damn foreigner here blind.
I dont mind paying more but dont try to fucking play me, I hate that **** about these people.
7aya, we dont have a superiority comple, but maybe your people have an inferiority complex and either think we are all rich or dumb, one or the other. It's not about race, even many Arab friends I have from the gulf, hate the Egyptian ways too. They told me thir countries and cleaner and more organized, so it has nothing to do with race, its the egyptian fu cked up ways, they need to change.
ok i can tell ur american
also keepingitreal is right
ur wrong take your trashy talk
someplace else, people might start
to think all of us americans sound
like u.
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quote:
Originally posted by Pe@rson:
Katkut, I've been to Brazil and I've seen the city clumps (Favelas) that people live in. I can absolutely tell you that they are disgusting places where rapes, murders and thefts are a 'normal' daily occurance. Don't be fast to pass judgement...tempted, believe me Egyptians can't wait to see the back of you with that attitude.
7aya, don't worry not all us foreigners are like that, I'm English and think Egypt is an amazing places. Yeah they have their problems but so does every place on Earth. The less racist thugs we have on this forum the better. Interesting how both 'tempted' and 'Katkut' only joined to spew this nonsense...
[This message has been edited by Pe@rson (edited 15 June 2005).]
Yeah kiss ass you fag. And I hope when they do see the back of me, they kiss it all the way to the f ucking airport.
quote:
Originally posted by KeepinItReal:
Out of those 10 annoying things, there a 100 great things about living in Egypt.
Name 10, besides all the money you broke ass retirement bitches back in your own country are saving. by being in a thrird world ghetto.
quote:
Originally posted by tempted:
Yeah kiss ass you fag. And I hope when they do see the back of me, they kiss it all the way to the f ucking airport.
wow Egypt I would say youre not losing
much when this one leaves.
Go home to mommy in usa to make sure you
dont see any of lifes realities, and get some
girl pregnant and leave her while ur at it loser.
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quote:
Originally posted by tempted:
Yeah kiss ass you fag. And I hope when they do see the back of me, they kiss it all the way to the f ucking airport.
you keep saying **** you and fucking, its so easy to swear my dear. ok you say you came to egypt thinking its a nice country but then you were shocked and you didnt like it. ok thats fine then LEAVE. why are you here? if you are so unhappy why are you making youreslf suffer. go to a place that makes you happy.
your problem is that you can't stand anyone having a different opinion than you. many people visit egypt and love it, while others visit it and hate it and never want to come back. and thats it subject closed. but your problem is that you don't like egypt, and you just can't stand anyone else likes it. so when keepitreal, expresses her love for egypt, you tell her she's fake. you are complaining that egyptians are rude and disgusting people but look at you. you have no respect for other people's opinion, you're insulting and swearing at everyone who has a different opinion than yours, you're a racist who thinks that the lie your government made up to launch the war on iraq is "old news." you say you have a problem with egyptians? no honey egyptians have a problem with you! for god's sake leave and go to a place that make you happy. if egypt got the worst out of you then i hope some day you can find a place that gets the best out of you. because all i see now is an angry man with a lot of hate.
I just say, I know how difficult it can be to live in a place where you can't adjust to, where you don't blend in, where you might not even try to fit in. Be happy and at ease that you will leave Egypt soon. As someone said before every place on earth has its good and bad sides - and you know it.
I feel same problems,than writer..but i respect egyptians,and i cant never say like this for other people..only maybe for my husband,when i 'm in very bad mood
But he know me..so he dont take it too seriously..
I know i make half of problems by myself..only half is cause of egypt or egyptians..
But it is so easy think about negative way..
Positive way needs more energy..
Besides when I saw downtown detroit it looked apocolypitic. Like the end of the world after 7pm.
Besides many major cities in the world look this, clean up for the rich and the tourists, neglected parts for the poor.
quote:
Originally posted by Pe@rson:
Well said 7aya, you got England behind you luv
hehe thanks luv by the way my grandma is british, she's from bristol.
quote:
Originally posted by Karah_Mia:
tempted,
either u r a bitch on welfare (no funds on gigolos left), old fart who lost his wallet and Viagra prescription, or a fag (as you poetically mentioned) with a chronic hydraulic dysfunction. In any case u r a sad persona, bitter to your rotten bone and venomous as a cobra right after post mortem dissection. U sure have right to a personal opinion about Egypt, but the way u express in on a public forum shows your pathetic cry for attention and a cowardly loser hiding behind the cyber curtain. I wish you luck in your future endeavors, however. You may write us sometimes when u get bored from spinning your ugly heads and cleaning your trailer.
None of the above, but after reading your history, I realize that you are one of those old bitches that married some visa chasing poor egyptian, bet he'll leave your old ass after he gets his citizenship, biyatchhh.
What kind of desperate bitch are you?
quote:
Originally posted by Tigerlily:
Tempted made some valid points (which I heard quite much by foreigners living in Egypt) but the way he/she choosed to let off steam and anger is certainly not fine and not to tolerate.I just say, I know how difficult it can be to live in a place where you can't adjust to, where you don't blend in, where you might not even try to fit in. Be happy and at ease that you will leave Egypt soon. As someone said before every place on earth has its good and bad sides - and you know it.
Tigerlilly you're right, my mouth is filthy, I'm an angry person, these people made me like this, just say I'm fed the hell up, and don't give a damn who I offend. Yes, many foreigners talk about Egypt the same way, behind their backs, not on a forum trying to kiss ass, and not step on another Egyptian's toes, but if they only knew how they talk about them when they are not around, amongst eachother, they'd think I was being kind. You should listen to how the Arabs talk about them, they call them crooked thieves, and so on and so forth. I have many Arab friends from all over the middle east that attended AUC with me, and they get so fucking pissed if us americans mistake them for an Egyptian.
Yeah and these people are being fake, either they are fucking some Egyptian, married to one, and trying to impress some, I'm not the ass kissing type, the people make me sick. I almost got run over the other day, by an asshole and they had the fucking gall to yell at me, could you believe that shiit? Yeah sure, there are asshole drivers in the USA, but at least we have a lot of fucking traffic lights and crosswalks. I heard they had some underground thing in Alex, but Cairo doesnt have **** . Maybe if I vacationed in the fucking redsea, I'll love Egypt to death too, but I live in Zamalek, so-called high class area, but too me, just a step above the worst part of Bronx NY, the fucking hood.
quote:
Originally posted by sonomod:
Mind you he is in Cairo not the Red Sea resort areas.Besides when I saw downtown detroit it looked apocolypitic. Like the end of the world after 7pm.
Besides many major cities in the world look this, clean up for the rich and the tourists, neglected parts for the poor.
Yeah but the difference is, in urban cities like Detroit, NYC, you know where the ghettos began, not Egypt, the poor and rich are mixed in like a toss salad, one old ass ragedy building about to cave in next door to some brand new bldg, with a marble entrance and uniform security, not some raggedy ass door man sitting on a stoop like a fucking homeless bum.
quote:
Originally posted by Pe@rson:
Oi tempted, watch your language and show respect. Are there any moderators here to delete this guy?[This message has been edited by Pe@rson (edited 15 June 2005).]
Fag
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quote:
Originally posted by tempted:
None of the above, but after reading your history, I realize that you are one of those old bitches that married some visa chasing poor egyptian, bet he'll leave your old ass after he gets his citizenship, biyatchhh.What kind of desperate bitch are you?
IT READS!!!!!! Thanks for enlightening the philosophical abyss in one of your ugly heads (wonder which one out of four biyatchhhenkeev: Tania, Mania, Pasza & Natasza ) with mind stimulating story of my Egyptian Desperation. I bet u got a kick out of it, just hope it was less of a kick than that of your Egyptian Experience's atomic swing straight at your sadly hanging balls. OUCH. :
Ps. I got it; u r a trannie after a sex op butchered in Cairo (happens to the best of us! LOL) who looked so pitiful after the metamorphosis that the beggars shared their pennies with you and dogs (those who did not run whimping and scared shitless at your heavenly apparition) dragged their rotten bones for you to share dinner by the Magical River of Nile.
Now collect the venom from the monitor you spitted accidently along with the chewed up tobacco and SMILE. I wonder when they will figure it out WHO U REALLY ARE!
You are so accurate in your view of Cairo and Egypt. When I lived in Alex I would go visit Cairo, and it was really hell on earth. I would literally cry on the train coming back home. I'm assuming that you attended AUC! I was interested in attending there but then I realised that I would have to pay $15,000 per semester in a city that many previous tourists considered "hell". I only had to pay $2,000 to experience hell in Alex. It was more difficult for me because I was a woman and I was the only female in the language school that I attended. It is so dangerous being a woman in that country. I had to make my own pepper spray formula to carry in my purse just in case someone decided to attack me (i'm not kidding). I've visited Mexico City and have felt much safer there. I know, the people are just terrible over there. Why is that? Did your teacher or friends recommend taking any herbal tranquilizers? My teacher recommended some and they helped me quite a bit. That's the only way you can survive in that country. As for the women boasting about how much they love Egypt and Cairo in particular, forget about them. They are misfits in their own country and they love the attention(negative or positive) they get in Egypt since they are considered "exotic" there. Heck, no Western man would give them the time of day so they come to Egypt to attract a man. The others are simply brainwashed into believing that life there is jolly(like a dog that gets beat, they just learn to accept it because they don't have any other choice)! I on the other hand, am going back to Egypt in August and I am completely dreading it. I met a really amazing guy there and he's paying my trip so I can come meet his parents. I love him dearly but I hate where he's from. I have an intuition that he's going to ask me to give Egypt one more try. I can only hope that my intuition is wrong on this one! Good luck, only 2 more weeks to go. You can make it!
quote:
Originally posted by tempted:
B4 anyone says otherwise, I just finished my exams, in 2 weeks I will be out of this hellhole.1. Dirty filthy, disgusting trash, every
f ucking where.2. Greedy ass doormen, always havetheir hands out for tips.
3. The most inconsiderate drivers in the world, would rather run you over than let you cross.
4. The minute your foreign accent is revealed, the prices just went up, count on it.
5. Chaotic character, have you ever seen an Egyptian naturally form a line, they will knock you over, cut in front of you, or just rudely walk up and start talking to a merchant as if you are not ther.
6. Poor hygiene, its too fu cking hot to be exposed to smelly armits.
7. Beggars, beggars, beggars, everywhere
8. Why should I tip you for a f ucking roll of toilet tissue in a f ucking public restroom.
9. Dishonest taxi drivers, increase the price if you're foreign. Drive like bats out of hell, puts your life in danger.
10. Slow ass underpaid government workers, unless you tip them off.
In the time I have been here, I've learned not to trust any egyptian unless they have a prayer scar, those are usually the honest religious ones. The rest can kiss my assss!
[This message has been edited by Mon_Savage (edited 16 June 2005).]
I lived mostly in Cairo in the middle of the 90's and I never felt anywhere so safe like there. Yes, you got that harrassment thing big time which is very annoying and frustrating, once in the beginning I've got really indecent touched by a guy on the street between the legs, I tried to run after him, but then I was just shocked, in disbelieve and crying, crying....
Nothing else happened to me, my friend lost her purse in the taxi cab and the driver came back after one hour and returned it to her without anything missing. Where else would people be so honest? Also my future husband lost three times his work mobile phone (yes, he is somehow forgetful ) in different taxi cabs and it always got returned to him. Well cab drivers in Maadi know each other and they look very much out for their customers.
Hell, I'd laugh if someone tells me that Egypt is very unsafe and advise me that I am better off walking on the streets with pepper spray or anything else to protect myself.
Egyptians are honest, friendly and helpful people, they love to meet and get to know others, they love to smile and talk...... so do I.
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quote:
Originally posted by frienda:
Tempted,You are so accurate in your view of Cairo and Egypt. When I lived in Alex I would go visit Cairo, and it was really hell on earth. I would literally cry on the train coming back home. I'm assuming that you attended AUC! I was interested in attending there but then I realised that I would have to pay $15,000 per semester in a city that many previous tourists considered "hell". I only had to pay $2,000 to experience hell in Alex. It was more difficult for me because I was a woman and I was the only female in the language school that I attended. It is so dangerous being a woman in that country. I had to make my own pepper spray formula to carry in my purse just in case someone decided to attack me (i'm not kidding). I've visited Mexico City and have felt much safer there. I know, the people are just terrible over there. Why is that? Did your teacher or friends recommend taking any herbal tranquilizers? My teacher recommended some and they helped me quite a bit. That's the only way you can survive in that country. As for the women boasting about how much they love Egypt and Cairo in particular, forget about them. They are misfits in their own country and they love the attention(negative or positive) they get in Egypt since they are considered "exotic" there. Heck, no Western man would give them the time of day so they come to Egypt to attract a man. The others are simply brainwashed into believing that life there is jolly(like a dog that gets beat, they just learn to accept it because they don't have any other choice)! I on the other hand, am going back to Egypt in August and I am completely dreading it. I met a really amazing guy there and he's paying my trip so I can come meet his parents. I love him dearly but I hate where he's from. I have an intuition that he's going to ask me to give Egypt one more try. I can only hope that my intuition is wrong on this one! Good luck, only 2 more weeks to go. You can make it!
honey you can says whaever you want about egypt, pollution dirt whatever. but you were afraid of being attacked? that's a first. egypt is a very safe country. and this is something that most egyptians and non egyptians agree on. you are obviously paranoid. further, you are saying women who are in love with egyptian men are misfits in their society and come here for egyptian male attention. well then i guess that would be applied to you too, because you came here for that jeweler didn't you? please PLEASE frienda if your guy asks you to give egypt another chance don't. we egyptians are very stressed at the moment and we don't need a racist like you to come and treat us badly. i think you and tempted should hook up. you can fill your time by trying to see who is more hateful.
hehehe pepper spray forumla in egypt! that's so funny!
[This message has been edited by 7aya (edited 16 June 2005).]
I agree, that egypt is a safe place.
I never feel scared..just angry with some stupid men..or woman.
Yes,it is big different if u are living in cairo or hurghada..
I always get nervos,when i visit in cairo..it is too much people and cars for me..
But there is much intresting things..
I like to drive at early morning,when streets are empty..and look around for nice old buildings ..
1. Dirty filthy, disgusting trash, every
f ucking where. <----- lets see there, its seems like you are talking about, Paris and London. it is so dirty there that you have to walk for miles before even seeing a litter bin..
and my dear, with over 20 million ppl only in cairo,hhmmmm is that so strange?? actually i didnt find it so dirty as you suppose it was. I think it was actually very clean for having so many citizens in such a small places. (obviously you havent been to dirty places before, go see Dubai wich is magic land for all go to naif city and then you will see real garbage land, not to mention London, omg had to carry my empty coke box for a whole hour! and those big black garbage bags EVERYWHERE! have you been to shepherds bush? or paddington? anywhere outside the oxford area???)
and again as I mention your swearing just spices up your lovely message
2. Greedy ass doormen, always havetheir hands out for tips. <---- Now you are just being rude!! have you ever talked to those "greedy doormen" did you ever wonder how their life is like? or do you only care about how they are to YOU only.
many of them are very VERY poor. they live on a salary that doesnt get any higher than 100 LE on a month! And most of them are old men. Old men wich unlike here in europe have to work all their lives to get enough money to feed his children and wife unlike spoiled old men here in europe where they would be treated like prince, wich by now they would be retired with a big villa and some fancy sunglasses.
and what is your problem with doormen ???? Its very usual to give them tips, You do that every where you go!! in every hotel no matter where you are. These men work day and night and have a madrass in a small room in the building you are renting in. while you are staying in your room drinking your fancy drinks and and buying whatever you like, and all you can think about "how dare this guy ask me for money??"" Man, you are sooo selfish!
3. The most inconsiderate drivers in the world, would rather run you over than let you cross. <------ Unlike most taxi drivers that you may have met in your life, they work much harder than you or I will ever work in our lives. Unlike fancy taxi drivers here in europe, wich BTW are much richer than the doctors, and drive only mercedes cars, those men in egypt work day till night and to get what 100 LE a day, wich BTW they have to give 50 LE or 60 LE to the car owner, since they didnt have the ability or the money to buy a car themselves.
and not to mention that you work from 5 in the morning till 11 at night if not 12. And so you know while you get pissed of about how crazy they are driving, the driver himself has to think how he will survive this day, with enough money for himself, and his children and his wife and if not his parents.
and all you care about is man how INCONSIDERATE the driver is , but how inconsiderate are you??? all you worry aboout is "oh my god how horrible he drives, he will give me a heartattack" Grow up for god sackes!
4. The minute your foreign accent is revealed, the prices just went up, count on it. <---- Oh my god where in gods name have you been!! this is the universal rule for wherever you go!! The way you look and dress will always play a role for the salesmen. I have worked with persian carpets, and we always had to look for their accents and how sophisticated they were, the more sophisticated the richer they were, and the higher the prices went. If you want to admit it or not, if you want to belive it or not, This is BUSINESS no matter where you go! in China, in India, in Dubai and even in Italy and Spain.
its all business, if you dont like it, then you shouldnt travel then! BTW its not that fun for me to travel either to european countries, every time I want to buy something, they think I am from UAE and belive me the price gets much higher!!! but thats the rule of business. No matter where you go.
DEAL WITH IT!
5. Chaotic character, have you ever seen an Egyptian naturally form a line, they will knock you over, cut in front of you, or just rudely walk up and start talking to a merchant as if you are not ther.<----- Obviously you have never been to that many countries,
and so you just know I also hate that thing, that ppl never form a line. But have you been to Dubai?? Man, they dont just go infront of you, they give you that look of that you are worthless!
6. Poor hygiene, its too fu cking hot to be exposed to smelly armits. <--- You remind of those english 1st class people with those sharp nose and a cup of tea in their hands. i wonder what would happen to you if you went to india or Iraq, I am sure you would have a heartattack on the airport before even setting foot in iraq!!
7. Beggars, beggars, beggars, everywhere <--- oh so for you my majesty the kids and homeless ppl should stop trying to have some money so they can have some food, cause it BOTHERS you!! hmmmm, so you dont care that the children dont get any education, or that they sleep in the street, or that they freeze in the winter cause of lack fo clothes BUT for you they are just EVERYWHERE. make excellent sence to me!
And you dont care that many of them will maybe not have any food on their table today, but it bothers you when they stare at you when you eat??? or that they ask for maximum 5 LE from you??? wow I bet that 5 LE was very dare to you??
8. Why should I tip you for a f ucking roll of toilet tissue in a f ucking public restroom. <---- Most of the women working on those tpilet places are either widows with kids or divorced. So they take this job to make enough money to survive the day. and belive me unlike spoiled cleaners here in europe, They have to do a really good job cleaning the place or else they will get fired.
u are so spoiled that you only think of that they asked you to give them money. OH what a horrible thing to do! hmmm, but you didnt ask her why she was working there, how she survived the day (so you know their salary is very low) or you dont need even to ask them, just look in their eyes, you will see how tired they are. But that is too much for you to ask. Oh my god they asked to get 2 LE from you, how could they do that!! she should be buried alive! for god sackes grow up and stop being so spoiled!
9. Dishonest taxi drivers, increase the price if you're foreign. Drive like bats out of hell, puts your life in danger.<--- see my comment above, dishonest? oh I think if i had you in the car i would be forced to be dishonest! cause what I would say you wouldnt like at all!
10. Slow ass underpaid government workers, unless you tip them off. <---- NOw you really REALLY pissed me off!! Do you know how much they get?? 100 LE on the MONTH! I really wish that one day you will be poor.
I wish that you will one day wake up in the morning with no clue how to get enough money to feed your children. I wish that someday you will feel the humiliation that poor ppl get from ppl like YOU whom only think of THEMSELVES and their pleasure.
I have been very rich, we used to have four cars only in our 6 person family.
I used to have every doll and every toy that anyone could dream of.
BUT I have been poor too, we had to live on a month only on crackers, where we had to use our shoes as pillows.
Where I had only one toy left from all my thousands. and where we wouldnt have any clothing besides the ones we were wearing.
Be carefull tempted, you never know when the luck turns around! when you start laughing in the end ppl will laugh at you.
There is a big diff of being a judge an pointing out every fault you have, then being a humanbeing and reach out your hand. Wherever you will go you will see bad things and good things, the matter is what you learn from it, and obviously you are too spoiled and too selfish to have learned anything at all.
You seem like a 12 year old kid who just cant stand to understand that the world is not a painting on a wall, its rather a forest with lots of wild flowers and bugs and also some hidden secrets that only the seekers will find
The ppl of egypt are very strong, without them egypt would be nothing, because of them the pyramids were built and because of them still today they built up pyramids of pride in every child that grows up in egypt.
I have never seen so strong ppl, and hardworkers as here in egypt. And if you dont like egypt fine for you, the pyramids wont fall down and the people wont feel sad, cause you never saw them as people, for you they were animals.
Have a nice life!
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Originally posted by 7aya:
honey you can says whaever you want about egypt, pollution dirt whatever. but you were afraid of being attacked? that's a first. egypt is a very safe country. and this is something that most egyptians and non egyptians agree on. you are obviously paranoid. further, you are saying women who are in love with egyptian men are misfits in their society and come here for egyptian male attention. well then i guess that would be applied to you too, because you came here for that jeweler didn't you? please PLEASE frienda if your guy asks you to give egypt another chance don't. we egyptians are very stressed at the moment and we don't need a racist like you to come and treat us badly. i think you and tempted should hook up. you can fill your time by trying to see who is more hateful.
hehehe pepper spray forumla in egypt! that's so funny![This message has been edited by 7aya (edited 16 June 2005).]
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Originally posted by frienda:
First of all, I was'nt like the rest of the Western broads who soley come to Egypt to meet some guy them met online or met one in the West who tells them that Egypt is just great! I came to Egypt to simply study Fusha and Islam. I came with zero expectations of meeting someone nor did I care to meet anyone. As for the safety comment, the local girls thought I was very brave to take the taxi by myself to the local mall (about a 20 min drive). They don't even trust their own men, so why should I being a foreigner? Egypt is very safe....with a niqab. with a niqab i could go and do anything at any time of the day. Funny, how only peace can be achieved when you cover your entire face! I think my point is very clear now!
were you doing the drugs you admitted to doing and going out to nightclubs in full make up (as you admitted to) while you were studying Islam or did that come after? you're so fake. Dallas doesnt even want u.
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Originally posted by 7aya:
i'm not sensitive about the bad things in my country i can disscuss them with anyone. but the discussion has to be an intelligent one, we can talk about the problems, we can try to see why they happen, and what the solution for them would be. but this guy is a racist and this post was only to taunt and insult the egyptians and you happily went on the ride. and that's why i said shame on you.
anyway you say you live in rehab thats 20 minutues away from me, so if you are feeling lonely i can pass by you, and we can go for coffee. and i can introduce you to some nice egyptians, and you'll know that this country has some great people and aspects.[This message has been edited by 7aya (edited 15 June 2005).]
I really applause you, you have replied these individuals in a very educated, presentable and wonderful manner. We must all have to respect, appreciate other people, and not ever generalize things. I have traveled all over the world, and seen so many countries and even though some were fantastic some were no better that Egypt may be even worse, but because I know better I would never judge a country to be completely bad, cos as you must know every where has the good and the bad.
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Originally posted by frienda:
First of all, I was'nt like the rest of the Western broads who soley come to Egypt to meet some guy them met online or met one in the West who tells them that Egypt is just great! I came to Egypt to simply study Fusha and Islam. I came with zero expectations of meeting someone nor did I care to meet anyone. As for the safety comment, the local girls thought I was very brave to take the taxi by myself to the local mall (about a 20 min drive). They don't even trust their own men, so why should I being a foreigner? Egypt is very safe....with a niqab. with a niqab i could go and do anything at any time of the day. Funny, how only peace can be achieved when you cover your entire face! I think my point is very clear now!
with a niqab? well let me tell i do not wear the niqab nor am i veiled. infact my style of dress is very western and i have never been attacked or even threatened in egypt. and i go out every day, and sometimes i come home very late, and i don't even think twice about my safety. and the local girls you talk about are a figment of your imagination. because i'm a local girl and i use the cab all the time. and many of friends and collegues at work also use cabs. you're the only person i ever met who said egypt was unsafe. even foreigners who hate egypt admit that its great in terms of safety. anyway i dont give a damn what you say anymore because you're a racist. i just hope you go home if you aren't there already. and just leave us egyptians alone.
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Originally posted by duck:
I really applause you, you have replied these individuals in a very educated, presentable and wonderful manner. We must all have to respect, appreciate other people, and not ever generalize things. I have traveled all over the world, and seen so many countries and even though some were fantastic some were no better that Egypt may be even worse, but because I know better I would never judge a country to be completely bad, cos as you must know every where has the good and the bad.
thanks duck, but i think serendipity did a much better job. serendipity you are a truly amazing woman!
1mangang i love your sense of humour!!!
As for the dumb ass Serendipity bitch, if I was on a fucking Paris or London board, I would write about the things that annoy me there! Get that thru your fucking head, this is an EGYPT board, and I'm living in fucking EGYPT, but most of you bitches just wanna use this board to fucking complain about America and Israel, so **** you!!!!!!
Anyone who is not a foreigner will not understand where is anger is coming from.
As for hypocrites out there, you should GRANT that for every person who speak about Egypt badly, an egyptian is speaking badly about another country.
If an american speaks of egypt badly, there is an egyptian out there who speaks of United States badly.
Stop being shocked by a subject of this nature. Welcome the bad and good. It is the nature of us humans.
Side note:
For any rude person, who is calculating my grammatical errors and can't comprehend my overall judgment, calla te cara de mierda!
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Originally posted by 1mangang:
ok i can tell ur american
also keepingitreal is right
ur wrong take your trashy talk
someplace else, people might start
to think all of us americans sound
like u.
[This message has been edited by 1mangang (edited 15 June 2005).]
Or you bastard 
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Originally posted by 1mangang:
were you doing the drugs you admitted to doing and going out to nightclubs in full make up (as you admitted to) while you were studying Islam or did that come after? you're so fake. Dallas doesnt even want u.
speak for urself asshole
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Originally posted by tempted:
And 7aya, who the f uck do you think you are like its your personal responsi-fucking-bility to try to put in check anyone who dares speaks against Egypt or Egyptian, bitch deal with the truth about your fucking country and its people.
hehe i'm the one whos trying to put in check anyone who has a different opinion? thats hilaroious you're the one who is insulting anyone who dares to say an opinion different than yours. i can't believe your double standards! when people say egypt is beautiul you tell them they are kissing ass, but then when someone agrees with you then they are saying the truth. man you're freaking hilarious!
Egypt is faraway from paradice for me.
I dont want even live in paradise, normal life is much more intresting...
Anyway, paradise for me..is place what is beutiful,green,clean.
It is place where is only one group of people, there is no classes,poor and rich..everybody have same respect..even they dont have same work or money..
There can be different kind of religion, but they respect each others,and live together..as a one group.Without fighting whos religion is right..
People are happy, and honest.
When they say something to u , u can trust..that they really mean it.
Animals get their rights..
People are different kind of..everybody can have own personality..u dont must follow other people..and act like they act..u can be ur self.
There is not crowded places..there is rouls, how many house can be in one place..
There is rouls how to make houses..
There is rouls how to drive a car. There is no traffic..cause everything is so well organised..and drivers respect each others..and rouls.
You can have ur privacy..nobady come touch u on the street..
U can go anywhere alone,and feel safe and not get attension from other people,if u want to be alone.
Man and woman are on same line.
Both of have same rights.
Man is not one who make money for family..man is not one who go out with his friends..
Woman is not one who take care of kids..and home..
There is polices,that u can trust for them...that they help u,when u have a problem..
There is law,that u cant change with money..rouls are rouls.
There is doctors, who can safe ur life..or help with other medical problems..
U can trust for them..and money is not object..
Kids have freedom to be kids..they can enjoy their first years without anything else to do but play..
After that in the school, it cant be very hard to study,it must be also fun,and intresting..there is good teachers..
Sorry about my bad english..
I hope u understand what i mean..
There is no a paradise country..but something good have every country.
So what good have egypt?
And what bad?
Can we talk...and stop personal fights between members..
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Originally posted by 7aya:
hehe i'm the one whos trying to put in check anyone who has a different opinion? thats hilaroious you're the one who is insulting anyone who dares to say an opinion different than yours. i can't believe your double standards! when people say egypt is beautiul you tell them they are kissing ass, but then when someone agrees with you then they are saying the truth. man you're freaking hilarious!
Because the 10 things I named are the fucking truth, anyone who disagrees is fucking patrionizing your dumb ass.
Actually no one really disagreed with my 10 statements, they just didnt like the way I went about saying them, because I'm so angry. They criticize my behavior, how I say it, etc, but can't deny that I told the truth. You show me a foreigner that can deny anything I said, and I'll show you one ass kissing liar that has never lived in Cairo.
1.The place is dirty and disgusting 7aya, don't deny ut, and dont tell me what other countries are dirty, I'm talking about here.
2. Taxi drivers charge us foreiners more for going to the same destination as an Egyptian, don't deny it.
3. Merchants without advertised prices, increase the price for us foreigners, if you over charge me, I'm not buying a damn thing, if you charge me a fair price, I might buy 10 of them, they dont have that concept of business.
4. Cairo doesnt have enough traffic light, and dont have ANY pedestrian crosswalks, drivers don't yield right away to pedestrians, and they dont slow down when you're crossing dont deny it.
6. If anyone says there are not beggars everywhere is kissing ass to the 10th power, and dont tell me what the **** they have in NYC, thats irrellevant. Don't deny it.
7. The doorman , like the merchants expect you as a foreigner to give him 3 times the monthly fee as ur Egyptian neighbors, don;t deny it.
8. Maybe some people are too poor to afford deoderant, so their smell is intensified in the summer heat, dont deny it.
Some people need a raw dose of reality, and anothe foreigner like myself, leaving is not the solution to your problem, the next foreigner coming in will have to deal with the same bullshit.
Don't take the easy way out 7aya, and dismiss any foreigner complaining about this country as racist. I'm gonna continue my last 2 years of AUC at their campus in Dubai, another Arab country, with totally different atmosphere, clean, honest, decent people overall, but nevertheless still Arab/muslims, so you see it has nothing to do with race.
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Originally posted by Katkut:
Temptend...the people here is eating sheeat and smiling....live here is different than walk inside the turist bus, and be here 15 days...I dont know where u live but here in ALEX U awake up with this people saling they mothers screeaming like crazy..anyway is the paradise like some say...maybe after smoke a big parte f hash....
hey katkut darling, i found this spicy piece on a forum that was discussing the most dangerous country in the world. i thought you'd enjoy it!!!
Most Dangerous Country in the World?
Started on 22nd May '05, 23:53 by Lucyc55 Posts 21 - 25 of 25
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mim
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24th May '05, 11:38
Isn't there different types of dangerous places?, we've had quite a few on this thread so far, war zones, dangerous to travellers and danger from wildlife. its a scary world out there!!
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30th May '05, 22:00
Brazil is horrible, people think that brazil is this great fun free loving place, in reality brazil is a nightmare!!!
sao paulo is latin america's most dangerous city, then caracas venezuela, and rio de janeiro brazil
i will not go back to brazil ever again
see it seems your country is fucked up too. if you think i made this up just go to, http://www.travellerspoint.com/forum.
i thought i'd give you a taste of your own medicine!
Like I said besides the tourist areas, there are places in Brazil were I won't travel alone cos the crime rate in Brazil is among the highest in South America. As for the hospitals which you seem so proud of, it seemed like nurses had no idea what rubber gloves were even when drawing blood. Before travelling to Brazil my G.P (local doctor) gave me a looong list of vaccinations I should take. And if your interested as to why I went to hospital, the doctor apparently blamed it on food poisening. And please don't try and feed me rubbish about care in Brazil, unless you have loads of this $$$$$ you are nothing but scum.
I've tried to answer your questions, but to be honest your english is very hard to understand (no offense intended).
Brazil couldn't hold a candle against their neighbours like Bolivia or even Paraguay.
Salam Ibrahiem,
We all agree with you, we have a lots of social and economic problems in our country.
"Fahlawa and wana mali" traditions are embedded in our culture for many decades now.
Other countries have different problems, take new York, I have been conned out of my money three times and the police did nothing about it.
In SF, I stayed at a hotel where the member of staff took my all weekly accommodation charge, never give me a receipt then I was asked to pay the money again as they denied I did in the first time.
It is known in London that the taxi drivers will charge you double if you are a tourist specially American or a Japanese!
Our problems in Egypt are greater, we lack organisation and monitoring and of course 7ameeha 7arameeha!
Uprooting such newly acquired and shocking behaviour will need a long time and in a way 'El e3teraff Bil ghalat fadeela " in the first place.
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Originally posted by tempted:
5.Government employees are underpaid, don't deny it, and I'm not talking about the overpaid Ministries, I'm talking that average lady at the visa office who makes you wait 4 hours for a fucking stamp.6. If anyone says there are not beggars everywhere is kissing ass to the 10th power, and dont tell me what the **** they have in NYC, thats irrellevant. Don't deny it.
7. The doorman , like the merchants expect you as a foreigner to give him 3 times the monthly fee as ur Egyptian neighbors, don;t deny it.
8. Maybe some people are too poor to afford deoderant, so their smell is intensified in the summer heat, dont deny it.
Some people need a raw dose of reality, and anothe foreigner like myself, leaving is not the solution to your problem, the next foreigner coming in will have to deal with the same bullshit.
Don't take the easy way out 7aya, and dismiss any foreigner complaining about this country as racist. I'm gonna continue my last 2 years of AUC at their campus in Dubai, another Arab country, with totally different atmosphere, clean, honest, decent people overall, but nevertheless still Arab/muslims, so you see it has nothing to do with race.
8- the most discusting thing about Cairo is having you in it-don deny it
9- who makes u believe that they will let you in Dubai ??? except if u will be working as ..... what we think u r working here
they will let u in but u will be treated same B.
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Originally posted by puppy:
My problem is,that i'm too honest ..
I know u dont want hear this..u like more honest people,who have something nice to say..but i must say it anyway..Egypt is faraway from paradice for me.
I dont want even live in paradise, normal life is much more intresting...Anyway, paradise for me..is place what is beutiful,green,clean.
It is place where is only one group of people, there is no classes,poor and rich..everybody have same respect..even they dont have same work or money..
There can be different kind of religion, but they respect each others,and live together..as a one group.Without fighting whos religion is right..
People are happy, and honest.
When they say something to u , u can trust..that they really mean it.Animals get their rights..
People are different kind of..everybody can have own personality..u dont must follow other people..and act like they act..u can be ur self.
There is not crowded places..there is rouls, how many house can be in one place..
There is rouls how to make houses..There is rouls how to drive a car. There is no traffic..cause everything is so well organised..and drivers respect each others..and rouls.
You can have ur privacy..nobady come touch u on the street..
U can go anywhere alone,and feel safe and not get attension from other people,if u want to be alone.Man and woman are on same line.
Both of have same rights.
Man is not one who make money for family..man is not one who go out with his friends..
Woman is not one who take care of kids..and home..There is polices,that u can trust for them...that they help u,when u have a problem..
There is law,that u cant change with money..rouls are rouls.There is doctors, who can safe ur life..or help with other medical problems..
U can trust for them..and money is not object..Kids have freedom to be kids..they can enjoy their first years without anything else to do but play..
After that in the school, it cant be very hard to study,it must be also fun,and intresting..there is good teachers...]
This is "The" ideal place. No country in the world has all that yet. Any country no matter how civilized will fall short of a few of those points and tax payers are still paying and demanding to get all that you describe everywhere on earth.
So are you comparing Egypt against the ideal now or against some other place in your mind? Anyway, try rural Egypt and you will get the first 12 lines of your description.
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As many of u know..i fall in love with egyptian man..and it is why i'm living here..not cause i was want change my life..or i was want to work here..or see the different kind of culture..
But always when u have mixed marriage..u must leave something,to get something....it is not easy..always other part is not so happy for living place..but love is more important for us ..
Anyway, i dont must care things here..but what can i do..i'm so sensitive..
I get upset if some stranger on the street touch me or talk to me without respect..
I get scared in cairo with traffic and people,who look me like i'm animal from the zoo..
I get nervos with doctors ,cause i feel they are not really intresting nothing else than money..same with police,goverment..
I get upset when i see animals,who are suffering..
I feel bad for really poor people,some people treat them like dogs..
I cant trust for anybody..that they really mean what they say..only for my husband.
This is because i come from so different kind of culture..we use to say only things,what we really mean..and people keep their promises..
I miss my freedom to live..without thinking how i dress, how i talk..how i do things..without getting too much attension.
And what i cant understand...why egyptian man are so over sexual? it is natural..that woman and man can be only friends..they dont think about sex..they dont look after every woman..they dont try touch u,when nobady is seeing..
Why they cant be good muslims..and keep their eyes in their own wife..
And dont say, men are hotter here in south..i dont believe it..
I say it is mentality problem. It is problem of religion..and u cant handle it..
Maybe u should have 4wifes..it could be much better,than running after tourist...
OK. Now u can hate me..
I just hope,that i can have my private ..with everything else i can deal..and i could say,i like my life here in egypt..
Everywhere you will go you will see bad thing and good things, no place is paradise, Paradise actually exist cause of this lack of perfection.
Paradise is in the end, is what you and only you yourself think of it to be. Like here we saw what "puppy" pictures paradise, and so with "tempted" obviously paradise is far away from egypt.
We were created diff on this world so we can see what the fellow companion cant see and vice versa, but also that we should respect eachother. I could get down to your level Tempted and swear back to you and call you names. but what do I earn from that? respect? pride? nothing.
I gave you my opinion about egypt, wich is in the end the views what only my heart and eyes was witness too, and you gave me yours, wich I respect.
If egypt would have been loved by all, wouldnt that make egypt not unique anymore? and same goes for Venice and Malaysia, and every contry in the world.
Tempted its good that you say what you think lacked in egypt, but if you had said it in a diff way, maybe you will be discussing in respect and like humanbeings. But at the end you are free to do whatever you like, I am happy for you that you are finished with exams and will leave soon. its in the end, its up to the pleasures of the eyes, ears, tongue and heart of yours, not mine. Hope you have a safe trip back to your country.
wish you the best,
Sara
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Originally posted by puppy:
Ok. Let say it clearly
I read from this forum,how people says,that egypt is wonderful place ,it is paradise..
For me, egypt is nice place to visit..it is very intresting place..
But living here is then a other story..
It is not easy.
Maybe for u egyptians..cause u use to have life like this always..u dont even think,that things could be with other way..
And it is ok with me..if u are happy,then live like this.As many of u know..i fall in love with egyptian man..and it is why i'm living here..not cause i was want change my life..or i was want to work here..or see the different kind of culture..
But always when u have mixed marriage..u must leave something,to get something....it is not easy..always other part is not so happy for living place..but love is more important for us ..Anyway, i dont must care things here..but what can i do..i'm so sensitive..
I get upset if some stranger on the street touch me or talk to me without respect..
I get scared in cairo with traffic and people,who look me like i'm animal from the zoo..
I get nervos with doctors ,cause i feel they are not really intresting nothing else than money..same with police,goverment..
I get upset when i see animals,who are suffering..
I feel bad for really poor people,some people treat them like dogs..
I cant trust for anybody..that they really mean what they say..only for my husband.
This is because i come from so different kind of culture..we use to say only things,what we really mean..and people keep their promises..
I miss my freedom to live..without thinking how i dress, how i talk..how i do things..without getting too much attension.
And what i cant understand...why egyptian man are so over sexual? it is natural..that woman and man can be only friends..they dont think about sex..they dont look after every woman..they dont try touch u,when nobady is seeing..
Why they cant be good muslims..and keep their eyes in their own wife..
And dont say, men are hotter here in south..i dont believe it..
I say it is mentality problem. It is problem of religion..and u cant handle it..
Maybe u should have 4wifes..it could be much better,than running after tourist...OK. Now u can hate me..
I just hope,that i can have my private ..with everything else i can deal..and i could say,i like my life here in egypt..
puppy you say that most posts here say that egypt is wonderful? are we talking about the same forum? because the anti-egypt posts that are here outnumber the pro-egypt posts by far. further, you say that we egyptians have lived here all our lives and are not aware of the bad things. well you europeans have lived all your lives in your countries' also unaware of the problems. i've visited europe often and i've loved it. but there are also many aspects that pissed me and that i found very bad. also i think it was very strange of you to say that our problems are related to religion. you should respect other people's religion's puppy. isn't that part of the "civilization" of the west? to respect other people's differences???
further, you've said several times that you have neglected your social life and that you don't go out that often. you also said that cairo scares you. till when will you hide? i know that the fast paced crazy lifestyle of cairo can be difficult especially for people who come from quiet cities, but why don't you make the best out of it. as crazy as cairo is, it is a very exciting city with an amazing social life. unlike most european cities where the city is dead during the week and everything closes so early, cairo is bustling every single day. any time you will go out youll find people in the streets and the cafe's until the wee hours of the night. why don't you enjoy that? why don't you make friends and go out? why don't you find an interesting job, and make an interesting network of contacts? why don't you meet some egyptians and try to learn about the culture? why are you hiding like that???
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I respect very much religions..what ever it is..but i cant respect people,who say they are muslims/christians,but they are doing things with their own way,not like Koran/bible says.(but i respect people,who are honest..they can say,i'm not a good muslim/christian..but i try to do my best..)
What i was meaning,when i talk about mens sexuality..and religion..
It is just strange for me, how this muslim mens are giving durty looks for woman on the street..it is not right. if u are good muslim,u dont even look any woman..
Islam make clear,that sex is only for marriage..and it is a nice thing. So why this men cant follow their religion,not their feelings..
Or why egyptian culture,makes marriage so difficoult for men..u must have a lot of money..u must wait very long time,that u can marry...
U could simple marry in age 20,live in a rent flat and so..
I think it helps to stop men having sex before marriage..if they can marry earlier..
Do i never say that liFe is perfect in europe? no,never..
There is own problems..
U know..after i moved to egypt..i started to see better the problems in my country.
Then i started to see problems here in egypt..
I think everybody should go to somewhere outside of their own country to live some time..it helps to open ur eyes, good and bad things come more clear.
And what about my personal life..i think this is not place to talk about it..nobady is intrested anyway
I just say, i'm person who dont need much action or people around.
I love to have just one or two very good girl friends..
And my husband is my best friend. We are doing things together..anytime i want,he takes me to coffeeshop or play biljard
I come from very religion family..there is very much same rouls,than in islam..like no sex before marriage,no contraception... Everything is done most natural way,as God made us.
So for me,religion is only black and white..u can be only religion one,if u follow koran/bible ...u cant make things how is best for u..
Sorry,i'm writing a bok here..
I dont want,that people undestood me wrong..even my english is killing u..
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Originally posted by salama:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ibr:
[B]We can not accept “tempted” style to introduce his/her view, but what she/he said is true. We have to confess and add 100 more, subsequently we will be able to change and correct ourselves.
To dear Salama, thank you for your reply, but he/she says they are not talking about any other country but Egypt. You are so smart, once I will tell you why, I realized it myself, although I have never seen you. Now, “tempted” you said you announce this topic because they disturb you at AUC, because of the American policy in the Middle East, this is not fair, you mix issues together. We like the American people, but we disagree with the American policy, Europe has the same attitude. I think that we and Americans are victims of that policy. We feel sorry for the American soldiers who loose their lives for oil in Iraq everyday as we feel the same for the Iraqis. Don’t talk about WMD, or terrorism, terrorism is a play of international intelligence, we both peoples are victims of. “Tempted”, as you wish we accept your criticism ( while we ask you for better language), we do and we ask you the same. You, and all the people concerned at this topic are invited to see our antiquities in Cairo, I will offer you one day explanation for free, this is a human behavior we offer to all our guests for no money, then we can discuss at “round table” all these disputed issues, I am sure you will change your mind. The choice of date is yours.
Thanks Ibrahiem, but seriousely we have such problem that idiot talked about.
As all agreed, if she talked about them in a less intimedated way, we would have been equally reasonable replying ,but?
I, myself,etna-sab 3aliya many times fi musr, wal shorta zay al-be-ghal ispite the fact that their boss is my uncle..! laken mafeesh fayda.
Even el 3om-mal 3andi fil mazra3a nas-sa-been.one must ye3tareff, fi musr 7agat kateer ghalatt.and it is us who know it. because we look at them min el khareg .
Ya akhi rubbena ma3ana, amal el nass elli 3aysha feeha 3amleen aih?
Salam
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Originally posted by salama:
Thanks Ibrahiem, but seriousely we have such problem that idiot talked about.
As all agreed, if she talked about them in a less intimedated way, we would have been equally reasonable replying ,but?(edited 19 June 2005).]
Yes I am talking about Egypt you stupid bitch, go to a NYC or London board to complain about how your dumb ass was conned out of money. Foreigners are conned out of money everyday in this fucking country.
You try to act so fucking self-righteous and religious, but I read about you calling black americans big lipped niggers, and blacky child molesters, stop the fucking act, will you. And you and that bitch 7aya have the gall to call me a racist, for telling the truth about Egypt, and how your so-called class system just further divides people.
Its not my responsibility to talk about Egypt's problems in a rational way, you're trying to solicit the support of foreigners, to fix the problems of this fucking country, fix your own problems.
The way people dress in Brazil without getting harrassed show they are not the sex starved animals these assholes in Egypt are. Women like Puppy and Katkut complain all the time about these sex crazed donkey asses. So what, they dont attack them or rape them, but nevertheless if someone is afraid to leave their home without their husband, that says alot about the morality of these jerks in a so-called islamic environment. Yeah make the women cover up from head to toe, and allow the men to roam the streets like animals, undressing them with their eyes, and making up excuses for this type of sh it, like yeah, they can't afford marriage, bullshit, and you know it.
I've seen with my own eyes, a modestly dressed foreigner that would be respected in the States, walking side by side with a slut in a hijab, the tightest clothes you ever saw, while all the guys are trying to pick up the foreigner and ignore you egyptian bitches in their presence. The Egyptian bitch is trying hard to get attention, while the foreign girl is trying to be inconspicuous, being followed for blocks by some of the most irate animals I've ever seen on the face of the earth.
Puppy and Katkut, I understand what you are experiencing, don't expect bitches like 7aya and salama to understand because no one probably pays the ugly bitches any attention.
These whores at AUC are so easy to f uck, and they prefer it up their hijab wearing asses, so they can pretend to their nerdy ass future rich husband that they are still chaste, bullshit.
You crack me up. I love your humour and yes I understand fully how you felt. Remember, I was suppose to be there from Feb until June in school. However, I said **** it, and quit in April. I work for a fashion magazine and I made an tearful plea to my editor, to come home and style the next shoot so I could get away from Egypt. It was coming to a point that i was either going to kill myself or kill some Egyptian bastard if I would have continued my entire stay. That hash, and St. John's wort could only help me so much.
I have to congratulate you on your courage for withstanding that shithole. When you come home, book yourself for a deep tissue massage, all that tension you've accumulated needs to be taken out.
As for those girls who still after all this, support Egypt, well they like being treated like a 3rd class citizen. They have been raised to consider themselves worth less than a mule so they think it's okay to be fondled, stared and treated like **** by strange men. They do not know any better and they consider it to be good attention.
Also, you have to take into consideration that you are getting so much negativity is because you are not Muslim nor Arab and an American. I remember when I put out a posting, I got the worst replies from Egyptian women and from American women who married an Egyptian man and now live in Egypt. These bitches have so much hostility toward anyone who has a "joie de vivre" attitude toward life like us civilised Westerners. The Americans are just angry because they are stuck in a country that will never accept them and the Egyptian ones, because I like one of their men. The other women, have never actually been to Egypt, they are just in love with an Egyptian guy they met on-line whom tells them that Egypt is a perfect Islamic country. It's not until they get their first beating while there good ol' American family is 8,000 miles away that they kind of wake up, but by that time it's too late.
My question is, are any of these broads employed? I look at their total amount of postings that they've posted and it seems that all they do is sit on the computer and complain to anyone who does'nt agree that their country is in shambles. These women are forced by society to be submissive and oppressed so the only time they are able to take out their agression is in these forums. So no, do not take what these women have told you personally. They are just angry, and I don't blame them. Imagine, what we dealt with and magnify it by a lifetime! Yep, very angry women!
As for them mentioning that Egypt is a very "safe" country, I don't believe that for one minute. I really believe that rapings occur there every day. However, I'm convinced that it's all kept a secret by the police and government to not scare future tourists. Veiling is growing more than ever and there is a reason why, but no one really talks about it, it's just kept under the cover. I've never had so much fear toward men until I went there. In Egypt groups of men would cause me so much fear. Especially, after my Rosa Parks moment, I would never trust any of those bastards!
As for my boyfriend, if we marry I'm definitley getting a pre-nup. I may love him, but at the end of the day, he is still an Egyptian bastard. 75% of me is very into him while 25% realises that he is after all an Egyptian man.
Of course, we'll be receiving replies that we are "racist", "anti-Islam" and "pro-Bush". You know, I was'nt pro-Bush when I arrived in Egypt but when I left, I realised that Bush is'nt all that bad after all. I still think Islam is an amazing religion, unfortunately you see so little of it in Egypt.
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Originally posted by tempted:
Yes I am talking about Egypt you stupid bitch, go to a NYC or London board to complain about how your dumb ass was conned out of money. Foreigners are conned out of money everyday in this fucking country.You try to act so fucking self-righteous and religious, but I read about you calling black americans big lipped niggers, and blacky child molesters, stop the fucking act, will you. And you and that bitch 7aya have the gall to call me a racist, for telling the truth about Egypt, and how your so-called class system just further divides people.
Its not my responsibility to talk about Egypt's problems in a rational way, you're trying to solicit the support of foreigners, to fix the problems of this fucking country, fix your own problems.
The way people dress in Brazil without getting harrassed show they are not the sex starved animals these assholes in Egypt are. Women like Puppy and Katkut complain all the time about these sex crazed donkey asses. So what, they dont attack them or rape them, but nevertheless if someone is afraid to leave their home without their husband, that says alot about the morality of these jerks in a so-called islamic environment. Yeah make the women cover up from head to toe, and allow the men to roam the streets like animals, undressing them with their eyes, and making up excuses for this type of sh it, like yeah, they can't afford marriage, bullshit, and you know it.
I've seen with my own eyes, a modestly dressed foreigner that would be respected in the States, walking side by side with a slut in a hijab, the tightest clothes you ever saw, while all the guys are trying to pick up the foreigner and ignore you egyptian bitches in their presence. The Egyptian bitch is trying hard to get attention, while the foreign girl is trying to be inconspicuous, being followed for blocks by some of the most irate animals I've ever seen on the face of the earth.
Puppy and Katkut, I understand what you are experiencing, don't expect bitches like 7aya and salama to understand because no one probably pays the ugly bitches any attention.
These whores at AUC are so easy to f uck, and they prefer it up their hijab wearing asses, so they can pretend to their nerdy ass future rich husband that they are still chaste, bullshit.
I am Egyptian and as an Egyptian I realize the beauty of Egypt and the ugliness of it.
Look at the way you guys are acting. I have never met an Egyptian like me that wanted change in Egypt.
I am not just talking about gaining female power. I am talking about real change.
Why don't we turn this thread and talk about changes we want in Egypt.How can we go about these changes?
If you are old then your generation as failed to make a statement. It is up to my generation and the generation after to push for changes.
Just as America has a hugeeeee barrier between its wealthy class and poor class so does Egypt. Many Egyptian should start donating the little they can to such places like the orphanages in Egypt.
It is so easy to put down someone, or something, or some place. It takes a more stronger, peaceful person to know a negative attitude won't get you anywhere.
I am greatful to have a computer to speak my mind and communicate with everyone. There are people that are still living in homes of cloth.
Please do something. As people of God. Let him see our good intentions. Let him rid us of evil and negative thoughts. Let us become as close we can in a place where earth is trully hell. Okay?
I hope you take my words sincerely. Take care.
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Originally posted by frienda:
First of all, I was'nt like the rest of the Western broads who soley come to Egypt to meet some guy them met online or met one in the West who tells them that Egypt is just great! I came to Egypt to simply study Fusha and Islam. I came with zero expectations of meeting someone nor did I care to meet anyone. As for the safety comment, the local girls thought I was very brave to take the taxi by myself to the local mall (about a 20 min drive). They don't even trust their own men, so why should I being a foreigner? Egypt is very safe....with a niqab. with a niqab i could go and do anything at any time of the day. Funny, how only peace can be achieved when you cover your entire face! I think my point is very clear now!
are you sure your talking about Egypt and not KABUL AFGHANISTAN.....what kind of hash are you smoking woman?
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Originally posted by homing pigeon:
A few members commented on being followed in the street by "animal-like" men....Well, you do get that in all countries, USA included...You know what I mean, the wolf whistles and lecherous remarks when you go past a building site, for example... You know full well this happens in your own countries....so dont go making it sound like a uniquely Egyptian phenomenon. It's not only the building site experience, though. In fact, one of the consultants (high education, high status) I've worked with in the UK was given the nick name Tricky Mickey because he could never keep his hands to himself...so there you go! There's these people all over the planet. Tricky Mickeys and wolf whistles are nothing to do with civilisation; just male hormones and hyper inflated egos.
AMEN.
Beside this, there are so many wonderful things I admire so much, that I will never find in my country. But I really understand that this country isn't made for everyone. So many friends of mine who lived here left before the end of their studies/contract because they just couldn't stand anymore. Some spent hours crying in their rooms, refusing to go out alone. Some other made scandals in the street, yelling at these animals (some of them were soldiers...).So, if you can't adjust, yes, it's better to leave.
I feel good here, it's my new home. Oh, Puppy, I wanted to ask you something: do you often come back to your country? You feel a litle down I think, maybe you need to come back home, enjoy freedom, you will feel stronger when you come back here. It happens to me too. I wish you the best!
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I'm not traveled so much..just in creece,spain,estonia,sweden...finland
Egypt is only country,where i get this strange attension..
I'm also shy person..and all attension make me very nervos..
I dress very well..i keep my eyes on the street..
It is awful to get this attension,even when my own husband is walking beside me Where is respect for other mens wife..?
As i said before,i could love my life here in egypt..if i could get my freedom and private.
Good luck to u rania me
I'm from Jacksonville, Florida, our state is one of the biggest tourist destinations in the world, and thousands come here to retire every year. At one time we had a very high crime rate, tourist complained of armed robberies and carjackings, the government responded quickly. People feel safe enough to keep making it their spring break destination, and gated communities keep the thugs out of retirement areas.
You are heavily fined for littering in the streets, and its heavily enforced, you could get fined if you dont pick up your dog's poop.
A lady can come from Africa wearing kente cloth, we wouldnt dare tell her you need to dress western, and respect our culture, if she spending tourist dollars we dont care how she is dressed, especially if its not down right offensive. Western women in Egypt dont wear anything these guys cant see on television. Have you ever hesrd the term desensitized, well that's what happens in a country where they are so used to seeing skin and hair, that it no longers turns them on sexually, like it does for these guys, and yes I know men whistle everywhere, but in isolated incidences, you would have to be butt naked to be harrased every other block, the way the men do foreign women here. If a foreign woman walks 10 blocks, I guarantee she would be harrased 8 of them.
Single western women are the largest tour group in Egypt now, believe it or not, and they need to be respected if its to continue.
I cant imagine our Floridians responding to complaints by saying sh** like, it happens in Nigeria, oh it happens in London, no we wont people there spending there money providing jobs, so we respond to what they are complaining about, and stop being so damn defensive about it.
The American businesses respond to the irate consumer, because they know bad news travels faster.
Egypts tourism could quadruple, but someone is going back telling people how disgusting it is, rather than how nice it is and how they cant wait to get back, and again I'm not talking about tourist resorts like , Sharm and Hurghada, because most of the hotels and businesses are foreign owned chains, that know how to cater to tourist and keep them coming back.
I've been to Hong Kong, way more crowded than Cairo, overcrowdness is not an excuse for pollution.
Yaxi drivers in NYC may drive crazy, but they are held liable if someone gets insured in there car, these people drive without car insurance, and if you die, tough luck. And it wouldnt hurt to put up a few traffic lights, and hand out a hell of a lot of tickets to PENALIZE people, thats how they respond, hit them in the pocketbook. bThe cant afford the fine, make them do the time, our jails make people do community service, which includes picking up trash off the highways and other public areas, just a few ideas, but I'm sure some BLANK BLANK is gonna say, well it happens in so and so, and THAT WONT FIX THE PROBLEM!!!
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Originally posted by puppy:
[BI'm not traveled so much..just in creece,spain,estonia,sweden...finland
Egypt is only country,where i get this strange attension..I'm also shy person..and all attension make me very nervos..
I dress very well..i keep my eyes on the street..
It is awful to get this attension,even when my own husband is walking beside meAs i said before,i could love my life here in egypt..if i could get my freedom and private.
Good luck to u rania me
Puppy i am shy too, VEEERY Shy and like you I hate the attention and the eyes at me...I dont know what to do then! I just panick! I dont know what to do with my hands and suddenly i feel my knees becomes like jelly I become veery clumsy..and not to mention that I get red just like tomato!
Puppy I know its diff to have that much attention, I dont know for how long you've stayed in egypt, but after a time you will see it as something normal, or deal with it on your own way. ( I ignore it all I have a big ability to ignore things wich I dont like )
wish you the best,
sara
Ps. 7aya I was searching through the topics in search for your email adress.. coudnt find it. well here is mine ghostorchid20@yahoo.com
hope to hear from you soon.
Anyway..why should i make my life unhappy..can those idiots distroy my happiness..wake up lady
i start my war now...war to myself and my softness..war to those idiots.
take care serendipity..
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Originally posted by puppy:
serendipity, thanks from ur comment too
I have been here 3.5 years..
First i didnt care about this attension..Then after one year..i started to get enough..and came angry with it.
I hope i could find way to deal with it..
I think next step will be,that i start study arabic...then i can give them back..if they say something bad for me..or shout if they come too near..Anyway..why should i make my life unhappy..can those idiots distroy my happiness..wake up lady
i start my war now...war to myself and my softness..war to those idiots.take care serendipity..
You go girl! for me I just ignore them.. or give them that look of evil, muahaha.
When you start this war, and I come over to egypt, than you can be my bodyguard!
Btw softness is something nice, dont change that. Don't change yourself for anyone.
some guys even find it attractive that the girl says something rude back ( my cousine is that type, she is rude back and they keep following her ) by the way, this what you feel in egypt happens also here in Norway you know. but here we have the kurds who are hunting women they wear a kilo of gel and shoes that are 1 meter of heels (they are very short) and not to mention wanna be ricky martin shirts.. can you picture how facinating they look!
take it with a smile girl, just laugh at them, to be angry just takes away your energy. just make fun of them
I always go places with them to feel at ease.
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Originally posted by leilanism:
I hate when they look as well. Luckily for me I have my twin brother who is 196 cm and my father 190 and they both are mascular. They are like my two body guards.
same with my brothers, they look like the italian mafia! but somehow guys dont seem o notice them 
guys seems to like getting beaten up
Second..from my own experience Im sad to addmit but the 10 things are true. Anyway I love Egypt for it's good things inspite the bad ones..Nobody and nothing is perfect.
If we dont like something and is not in our power to change things in better than we must move on...find the right place.
It would'v been very helpful to me if I could'v come in Egypt for a couple of years to live beside my husband that has his business in Cairo. But unefortunately..because of some of that 10 bad things in Egypt I wasnt able to feel confortable living there. I stayed maximum 2 months ( from which 2 -3 weeks in Sharm) and then..raaaan back to my country which isnt the perfect country but is my home country and so the best place to live for me.
I am used to go out , walk freely where ever I want,,thing that was imposible to me in Cairo. First , there r no proper sidewalks , or if there are some , are dirty and full of merchendise from small shops spreaded everywhere...man harras me ( aldo I dress very decent. I dont go out on street "almoust naked" as somenone was saying!) and so on..I dont want comment more over things that people that lived in Egypt , even for a short while, know them.
All I can say in the end is a general advice : everybody ..try to see the full part of the glass not the empty one and life will be more kind with you!
quote:You felt safer in Mexico City? Is it because theyre Catholics? Mexico City has tons of people on drugs, tons more rapes and murders, than Cairo. I think theres another factor that makes you hate Egypt...one youre not willing to tell us.
Originally posted by frienda:
Tempted,
You are so accurate in your view of Cairo and Egypt. When I lived in Alex I would go visit Cairo, and it was really hell on earth. I would literally cry on the train coming back home. I'm assuming that you attended AUC! I was interested in attending there but then I realised that I would have to pay $15,000 per semester in a city that many previous tourists considered "hell". I only had to pay $2,000 to experience hell in Alex. It was more difficult for me because I was a woman and I was the only female in the language school that I attended. It is so dangerous being a woman in that country. I had to make my own pepper spray formula to carry in my purse just in case someone decided to attack me (i'm not kidding). I've visited Mexico City and have felt much safer there. I know, the people are just terrible over there. Why is that? Did your teacher or friends recommend taking any herbal tranquilizers? My teacher recommended some and they helped me quite a bit. That's the only way you can survive in that country. As for the women boasting about how much they love Egypt and Cairo in particular, forget about them. They are misfits in their own country and they love the attention(negative or positive) they get in Egypt since they are considered "exotic" there. Heck, no Western man would give them the time of day so they come to Egypt to attract a man. The others are simply brainwashed into believing that life there is jolly(like a dog that gets beat, they just learn to accept it because they don't have any other choice)! I on the other hand, am going back to Egypt in August and I am completely dreading it. I met a really amazing guy there and he's paying my trip so I can come meet his parents. I love him dearly but I hate where he's from. I have an intuition that he's going to ask me to give Egypt one more try. I can only hope that my intuition is wrong on this one! Good luck, only 2 more weeks to go. You can make it!
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Originally posted by tempted:
B4 anyone says otherwise, I just finished my exams, in 2 weeks I will be out of this hellhole.
1. Dirty filthy, disgusting trash, every
f ucking where.
2. Greedy ass doormen, always havetheir hands out for tips.
3. The most inconsiderate drivers in the world, would rather run you over than let you cross.
4. The minute your foreign accent is revealed, the prices just went up, count on it.
5. Chaotic character, have you ever seen an Egyptian naturally form a line, they will knock you over, cut in front of you, or just rudely walk up and start talking to a merchant as if you are not ther.
6. Poor hygiene, its too fu cking hot to be exposed to smelly armits.
7. Beggars, beggars, beggars, everywhere
8. Why should I tip you for a f ucking roll of toilet tissue in a f ucking public restroom.
9. Dishonest taxi drivers, increase the price if you're foreign. Drive like bats out of hell, puts your life in danger.
10. Slow ass underpaid government workers, unless you tip them off.
In the time I have been here, I've learned not to trust any egyptian unless they have a prayer scar, those are usually the honest religious ones. The rest can kiss my assss!
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quote:I really don't mean to be rude but I think you need to pop the "Bubble" that you are living in because you almost sound like a "Stepford Wife". When you begin talking about taxi drivers returning purses and so on----Please stop and think, what city you were in-----Perhaps Maadi, or New Maadi. And I want to remind you that Maadi was not always like it is. Maadi has its current status because of the people (foreigners)that live there and the effort of their community to make it safe. And this point brings me to the reason for even responding.
Originally posted by Tigerlily:
Frienda, Egypt is an unsafe place????
I lived mostly in Cairo in the middle of the 90's and I never felt anywhere so safe like there. Yes, you got that harrassment thing big time which is very annoying and frustrating, once in the beginning I've got really indecent touched by a guy on the street between the legs, I tried to run after him, but then I was just shocked, in disbelieve and crying, crying....
Nothing else happened to me, my friend lost her purse in the taxi cab and the driver came back after one hour and returned it to her without anything missing. Where else would people be so honest? Also my future husband lost three times his work mobile phone (yes, he is somehow forgetful <IMG SRC="http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/wink.gif"> ) in different taxi cabs and it always got returned to him. Well cab drivers in Maadi know each other and they look very much out for their customers.
Hell, I'd laugh if someone tells me that Egypt is very unsafe and advise me that I am better off walking on the streets with pepper spray or anything else to protect myself.
Egyptians are honest, friendly and helpful people, they love to meet and get to know others, they love to smile and talk...... so do I. <IMG SRC="http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/smile.gif">
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