on the other hand if she is bull - shitting,....i think it is best she stays away form here
, but i think it better if she comes back (Y)
I am very worried about your psychological well being. You definitely need to see a specialist. To be a rape victim is a serious issue.
I don't know about the laws back in the US - which probably differs by states - but you should find out if there is anyway you can have the child aborted. No one can expect from you to go through eight more hellish months.
Please try to talk to your boyfriend again. Tell him you were ashamed of letting him know the truth that you were raped. Give him some time to understand the whole situation.
If you don't want that this kind of awful experience happens to another girl - you must nail these for this crime responsible men for good.
I hope you will be better soon; but actually I can't imagine what you are going through right now. Take good care of yourself and I hope you have a wonderful family and friends to help you through that difficult time.....
[This message has been edited by Tigerlily (edited 12 April 2005).]
BTW, are there any rapes, ever, in Egypt actually? Somehow I've got the feeling if you get your arm ripped off for theft, you get something else ripped off for other crimes (?).
Also, believe me, an American man, in a different country, American men would not rape, they don't have to. I don't mean they never do, but think about it~ they're in a different country, different laws, different rules, and they're going to follow a girl who just left a bar, drunk, and rape her OUTSIDE one at a time taking turns? lol.
No, American men would not do this, they would get you even MORE drunk, take you back to their place and keep you all night long.
I don't buy this story at all.
I smell a rat and I don't appreciate you
fingering American men. They already get
a bad enough reputation without this.
[This message has been edited by nooralhaq (edited 12 April 2005).]
I don't buy this story at all.
I smell a rat and I don't appreciate you
fingering American men. They already get
a bad enough reputation without this.
Me too, she does sound like a native American.My English is much better hers!!
You need to call police in your city and make a report. You are the victim. If you are in America, you can call 911 and tell them the truth, list all witnesses, names, and dates, all how it happened. Don't lie. Tell everything, be honest, nobody can hurt you. Also, you got to see someone to deal with your feelings and help you emotionally.
In regards of the baby, depending on your age, you can keep the baby, do abortion or give the baby for adoption. I don't know if you are religious or not, but be rational rather than emotional about the whole event, and make correct decision for yourself. Be aware that in about 4th month you will get attached to the unborn child so please think hard what should you do and make decision now before it's too late. Having the child in young age is a difficult job and it will change your life forever. Not many people can raise children on their own. Some people in your situation think about the suicide because they don't see the option of getting out. Please, don't hurt yourself. We will help you with our insights. There are several people on this board who really could offer you their sincere advice, or at least insight so you don't feel alone.
Apologize to your b/friend about what you told him. Ask 911 to give you the name of organizations to help you to deal with all this emotionally because you feel guilty and ashamed. Honey, you did not rape yourself. They did!
If you need further help with anything else, please don't be afraid to talk about it. If there is anything else we can help you, please ask freely. If you need the hot line number to call and talk to someone - I could research and get the number for you. I also hope you feel better.
quote:
Originally posted by salama:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by nooralhaq:
Me too, she does sound like a native American.My English is much better hers!!
Why even bring up which ethnicity or race she is, that has nothing to do whether her story is valid or not.
quote:
Originally posted by nooralhaq:
Well it's not only that but it's the way she tells the story. I am not the authority on how Americans think, but definitely I know how an American girl would talk and this is NOT it. She would definitely not come to a forum to speak of it and American girls are the fastest to scream rape when they want to point blame for pregnancy. Probably the boyfriend knows her well. Already at a bar, getting drunk?
I am the first to say nobody deserves to get raped even for being drunk, but comeon.Also, believe me, an American man, in a different country, American men would not rape, they don't have to. I don't mean they never do, but think about it~ they're in a different country, different laws, different rules, and they're going to follow a girl who just left a bar, drunk, and rape her OUTSIDE one at a time taking turns? lol.
No, American men would not do this, they would get you even MORE drunk, take you back to their place and keep you all night long.I don't buy this story at all.
I smell a rat and I don't appreciate you
fingering American men. They already get
a bad enough reputation without this.[This message has been edited by nooralhaq (edited 12 April 2005).]
Nooralhaq, why questioning her like that? Why do you believe that a girl - because she is American by citizenship - wouldn't have any problems to give her story out in all wonderful colors? After all she is a woman and was just being raped. Can you imagine what this girl is going through right now? By coming on a board anonymously and talking to strangers about her problem she keeps her privacy. She probably is very ashamed of herself, rape victims are often see themselves as the problems and trying to find reasons why the rapist would have done this to them.
And what you do you mean? American men wouldn't do that? Of course, they DO! I am surrounded by many, many Americans living overseas (Army and Airforce active duty members and their families) and yes crimes like that and worse are happening. After all in this particular case all persons involved got more or less pretty much drunk. Everyone knows what can happen.
I do buy her story to the fullest. After all I am not here to judge - rather to help her. The police investigation will find out the whole truth and if these guys committed a crime they definitely have to be punished.
I just think for Americans its much more difficult to have frequently sexual activities in Egypt, they ususally stay with other foreigners. So this story would make somehow sense to me - after all they are men.
quote:
Originally posted by nooralhaq:
No, American men would not do this, they would get you even MORE drunk, take you back to their place and keep you all night long.
I smell a rat and I don't appreciate you
fingering American men.
Those two comments in the same post?
Have you been watching too much 'America's Most Wanted'?
It doesn't matter whether she's american or not, or her attackers were american. Its a crimes that transcends nationality.
And I have read alot of travel books on Egypt. I know its real nerdy actually research before the vacation, just let your virtual bf do that planning for yous. And there is alot of warnings through out all the travel books on Egypt in regards to sexual assault. It happens.
American men have a bad reputation because our soceity and justice department has no problem owning up to the factual existence in American society. Its better to open up and be honest in order to solve the root problems.
And face it you will hear much more about crimes commit by American military forces because in the Marshal Plan - not only did we agree to provide financial assistance to rebuild Europe after WW2, but also to man military outposts that the European military forces used to protrol. It is a well established fact that many European nations didn't want to recall a bulk of their military forces from colonial outposts in order to fight the Third Reich invasion. Europe depended on its colonial investments and didn't want to leave them.
So that's why our military is so built up. And why our military is in every corner of the world.
Now that America is a super power and we practice an openness and want to be held accountable for our military's actions, plenty of people in the world thoroughly enjoy pointing out every evil act done by a USA military officer or citizen. I am glad that people do. It means world citizens expect alot out of the USA, its citizens and military in the first place.
Whether willow is an American or not does not matter to me. What bothers me is that American men are indulging in prostitution and rape in the first place. I expect more out of a fellow American.
Willow my deepest apologies for what a fellow citizen had done to you. America apologizes and hopes that you will hold this evil bastard to justice.
I found out that you can call this hotline number so they can further assist you! Please call them, and also read the link I am providing to you so you better understand how can you be helped. http://www.rainn.org/
RAINN's hotline (1-800-656-HOPE. 1-800-656-4673) RAINN's hotline has already helped more than 350,000 survivors of sexual assault. Its free and confidential - they also work 24/7 so you can call whenever you want. They have proffessionals who will talk to you. Also check out some other websites such as : http://www.feminist.com/rainn.htm that offers some information as well.
What should you do? http://www.rainn.org/whatshould.html
What should I do if I am sexually assaulted?
- Find a safe environment - anywhere away from the attacker. Ask a trusted friend stay with you for moral support.
- Preserve evidence of the attack - don't bathe or brush your teeth. Write down all the details you can recall about the attack & the attacker.
- Call the National Sexual Assault Hotline, operated by RAINN, for free, confidential counseling, 24 hours a day: 1-800-656-HOPE.
- Get medical attention. Even with no physical injuries, it is important to determine the risks of STDs and pregnancy.
To preserve forensic evidence, ask the hospital to conduct a rape kit exam.
- If you suspect you may have been drugged, ask that a urine sample be collected. The sample will need to be analyzed later on by a forensic lab.
- Report the rape to law enforcement authorities. A counselor can provide the information you'll need understand the process.
- Remember it wasn't your fault.
Recognize that healing from rape takes time. Give yourself the time you need.
- Know that it's never too late to call. Even if the attack happened years ago, the National Sexual Assault Hotline can still help. Many victims do not realize they need help until months or years later.
RAINN
635-B Pennsylvania Ave SE
Washington, DC 20003
202-544-1034
E-MAIL: RAINNmail@aol.com
There is so much information on this website, also about the laws, so please go read all you can and if you still need anything else, we will help you. There are many other sites but this one is the nation's largest anti-sexual assault organization, and also one of “America’s 100 Best Charities” (Worth magazine).
[This message has been edited by ~Sharon Stone~ (edited 13 April 2005).]
Have you all gone crazy from too many TV soap operas? This girl is only pulling you to see the
typically-american motherly gushing switch on automatically! You are so used to spending time with made up stories trrying to lookj like real life trhat when you read one, you resally believe it is real life.
But it is a story. Nothing else but a pen being sucked in this matter. And a weak story, at that, but might make it into a cheaper kind of teenage magazines, young penmaidens' corner.
Grown-up ladies, you amaze me!
quote:
Originally posted by Tigerlily:
Nooralhaq, why questioning her like that? Why do you believe that a girl - because she is American by citizenship - wouldn't have any problems to give her story out in all wonderful colors? After all she is a woman and was just being raped. Can you imagine what this girl is going through right now? By coming on a board anonymously and talking to strangers about her problem she keeps her privacy. She probably is very ashamed of herself, rape victims are often see themselves as the problems and trying to find reasons why the rapist would have done this to them.And what you do you mean? American men wouldn't do that? Of course, they DO! I am surrounded by many, many Americans living overseas (Army and Airforce active duty members and their families) and yes crimes like that and worse are happening. After all in this particular case all persons involved got more or less pretty much drunk. Everyone knows what can happen.
I do buy her story to the fullest. After all I am not here to judge - rather to help her. The police investigation will find out the whole truth and if these guys committed a crime they definitely have to be punished.
I just think for Americans its much more difficult to have frequently sexual activities in Egypt, they ususally stay with other foreigners. So this story would make somehow sense to me - after all they are men.
shes lying
im an american man and i appreciate nooralhaqs defense
you can tell by her wording
[This message has been edited by 1mangang (edited 13 April 2005).]
the rest of you will believe anything apparently and by the way how can you say 'her nationality shouldn't determine if she was raped or tellin the truth' but then you say 'ameican men have a bad reputation' as if it is easier to believe that because of our nationality we are more likely to rape?
we have sex easier, we are more familiar with it, right or wrong, we dont usually wait until marriage. we dont really need to rape i think that is what someone earlier was trying to say. im not saying american men never do rape, men of all nationalities are guilty of this crime. but really, why travel overseas to another pasture to steal the cow when you can go to your backyard and get the milk for free? common sense ladies.
[This message has been edited by 1mangang (edited 13 April 2005).]
It really doesn't matter, she came here to get attention and that's what she got. She even received an apology from America! WOW.
I didn't know one person could speak for America, common sense it would seem, as you mentioned, is clearly dead.
Take care.
good onequote:
Originally posted by 1mangang:
tigerlilly and nooralhaq are the only ones with common sense in here.the rest of you will believe anything apparently and by the way how can you say 'her nationality shouldn't determine if she was raped or tellin the truth' but then you say 'ameican men have a bad reputation' as if it is easier to believe that because of our nationality we are more likely to rape?
we have sex easier, we are more familiar with it, right or wrong, we dont usually wait until marriage. we dont really need to rape i think that is what someone earlier was trying to say. im not saying american men never do rape, men of all nationalities are guilty of this crime. but really, why travel overseas to another pasture to steal the cow when you can go to your backyard and get the milk for free? common sense ladies.
[This message has been edited by 1mangang (edited 13 April 2005).]
Asalamo 3alykom 1mangang,
As you know even in countries where it's easy to have sex rape still happens then it's possible that those same men will do rape in a country where it's more difficult to have sex, but is rape only about wanting to have sex? it could be about hate or any other circumstances we can't know and we can't know which story people tell here is true and which is false but as long as it's possible then why do we have to turn discussions into patriotism debate instead of helping the person who asked for help.
If this person is lying none loses anything but if she is telling the truth it may add hurt into her already sad moments.
I didn't mean to offned you by anyway
Salaam
do u all think that ALL americans are good at english? and they are all red-necks?
how do u know she might of been an immigrant from another poor country to live n work in the states?
there is not much she can do, if she does ever decide to come back to this board, the only thing she can do is, to have the baby and live it...
and give it enough attention and care in its upbrining to it , so it dont turn out like its "father"
on the other hand if she is bull - shitting,....i think it is best she stays away form here , but i think it better if she comes back (Y)
you would buy an ocean front property in
Nebraska.
quote:
Originally posted by 1mangang:
you guys are all so full of it.you would buy an ocean front property in
Nebraska.
Are you selling?????
im sure nebraska is somewhere in the middle of america, like the desert area???
r u all just being sarcastic???
Id rather her come on to this forum to share a problem rather than her keep it 2 herself and go suicidal. and wether u lot decide to b***h about her or not, im sure she feels a bit of da pressure lift already, as she said "I just want some1 2 listen while I get it off my chest" .personally I think that she has guts, knowing that she could be bitched about and called all sorts of names, I think quite a lot of people will leave this search thinking about willow, and hoping that what happened to her never happens to us and from willows experience it sounds very easy to be tricked, so I think that she has wisened quite a few people up, to what sick people are really capable of. Also nooalhaq u said "I don't appreciate you fingering American men. They already get a bad enough reputation without this". She is not fingering American men, they do it 2 themselves. So basically what u r saying is dat any1 who accuses any1 for anything, no matter what it may be, is fingering people. She is not at all fingering American men, she is just clearly making a point that the men happened to be American, and even if she hadn’t stated what nationality the 2 men were, is it really the point? NO I DONT THINK SO!!, even if the rapists were aliens, the point is SHE WAS RAPED!!.
u also say that "she came here to get attention and that's what she got" yes I agree she got attention, but she originally said that she didn’t come here for attention, one thing to 1mangang, u said that "im an American man and I appreciate nooralhaqs defense" of course u would agree with him, ur just sticking up for the men that haven’t raped. I don’t blame u for sticking up for your own sex, but this is not a case about sticking up 4 ur sex, it’s about understanding what has happened and how easily it can happen. And just lending an ear to listen and a few gentle words that may help her at her time of need. how would u feel if this happened to a woman in your family (thanks to willow making us aware hopefully it wont happen), and she came on to this forum to share it coz she couldn’t speak 2 u or any other family or friends, and people just bitched about her saying that it is properly her fault and that her boyfriend was right. Im sure the first thing u would do is offer support wether she was lying or not. U’d be concerned 4 her not the men’s nationality!. obviously u don’t believe her, which is your opinion and is well respected, but I have to admit I have a few doubts myself, but I would rather offer sympathy, than wonder "oh crap, what if she really was raped, and what if the stress of what happened to her and the bitchey comments on this forum did push her over the edge.(im not saying that I am offering her support just in case she is lying, because I have said that I have mixed opinions) I would rather go away knowing that I have said gentle words to her. Because at the end of the day we will never know, we all have our own opinions, and im sure many like me have mixed views.
Willow the one point that I do agree with is a point made from noorlhaq "they're going to follow a girl who just left a bar, drunk, and rape her OUTSIDE one at a time taking turns? lol.
No, American men would not do this, they would get you even MORE drunk, take you back to their place and keep you all night long.". This is one point that I have 2 agree with him on. Y do it outside where they will get caught? sorry willow, but as I said I had mixed views, next time some1 sends a reply and they don’t believe what they are replying to then that is fine(as I said its their opion). After all even if u don’t believe them I thought u were meant to help people, no matter what their problem is, or am I just to big hearted? Hope I haven’t offended any1, just putting my point across. Take care x
quote:
Originally posted by lil princess:
if she is lying (which I hope she aint)
I dare say from the two unhappy situations lying actually would the more preferable for the concerned person and thus more to be hoped for. But she is not lying, she is simply practicing storytelling.
god with u all
i even cant say a word about this story, but i would love to know where this happened i pray that our lifes dont cross with those things.
quote:
Originally posted by kkkaaa:
im i slow today?im sure nebraska is somewhere in the middle of america, like the desert area???
r u all just being sarcastic???
Whether people understand this or not, Nebraska is a plains state. Prairie land unsuitable for farming. Irrigation and fertilizers is the only thing that made Nebraska habitable and suitable for farming.
They've done the same in Wyoming and Utah. These 3 states and several others are not meant to be farm land, its all artificial. 40% of the lower 48 states are desert/prairie entirely unsuitable for farm land.
Farmers have destroyed hundreds of animal and plant species in order to farm these states. Now Native American groups and the depart of agriculture/interior are starting to replant natural grasses for grazing bison.
Just to let you know.
[This message has been edited by sonomod (edited 13 April 2005).]
they steal thier land, then gives them back the crap of the land.
el hamdulelah ur not!!!
keep in touch
quote:
Originally posted by kkkaaa:
cheer@sodomothey steal thier land, then gives them back the crap of the land.
You resurrect with a new username for fun or because you couldn't possibly remember your password?
And somehow European colonization was best for everyone!
quote:
Originally posted by nevermind:
I thought Utah was part of the "grain belt" of US??? But I may be totally mistaken, it must be some 25 years since I received any guided instruction in world geography
Thats Iowa.
To all the attackers, whether Willows story is true or not isn't really the point. Rape happens and any victim reading your repsonses would feel even worse. This is why there is so much unreprted rape because of people like you who are so disbelieving that the victim doesn't dare come forward.
As for complaining about someones English, well I make typos all the time, comes of using a laptop keyboard. And many Americans do not have english as their first language. there are loads with Spanish. Bad english doesn't prove anything.
quote:
Originally posted by sonomod:
And somehow European colonization was best for everyone!
noooo...
it wenrt good 4 the muslim, it split them up.....like egypt, syria, and other arab/muslim countries,
the muslims of today being so "patriotic" of thier country are just fooling themselves!
it the only way the "west" stays in power, if the muslim stay seperated, y else do u think US is so desperate to put a puppet in iraq, and promote democracy......
[ i post sumhting similiar to this sumwhere]
Whether the posters story is real or not for HER it is real for many people who have been a victim in rape.
quote:
Originally posted by kkkaaa:
noooo...it wenrt good 4 the muslim, it split them up.....like egypt, syria, and other arab/muslim countries,
the muslims of today being so "patriotic" of thier country are just fooling themselves!
it the only way the "west" stays in power, if the muslim stay seperated, y else do u think US is so desperate to put a puppet in iraq, and promote democracy......[ i post sumhting similiar to this sumwhere]
You know I find it so contrary that the Armenians and Greeks were such a threat to the Muslim world and how Christians in Tunisia and Libya were 'exited' or written off population ledgers to quickly.
But hey if the majority is Allah's "chosen" people it really doesn't matter what happens.
I personally account it to people always try to justify thier horrific acts by "us against them".
I know this last paragraph means nothing to you and that completely understandable.
quote:
Originally posted by sonomod:
.But hey if the majority is Allah's "chosen" people it really doesn't matter what happens.
I personally account it to people always try to justify thier horrific acts by "us against them".
.
i wont blame u thinking that at 1st thought....or anyone else...
the muslim have only themselves to blame, as i am sure i read somewhere,
that the muslims started to love this world more than the next, and started to dear death more than God...so this is the curse of God on the muslim...
so in some ways we shud thank Bush and Blair for waking up the muslims...but the question is how much ....
r u muslim sodomod :S///visit : http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Forum10/HTML/000241.html
thx
quote:
Originally posted by willow:
hi every1, i have a really big problem, and i dont really think i need any advise, just some1 2 listen while i get it off my chest. the main reason i an on here is just 2 tell some1 what happened 2 me while in egypt. as i cant tell my friends or familly. ok here i go, (sigh) i went 2 egypt, with my best friend for a 2week break, it was the best evr hoilday until 5days b4 we were due to come home. we went to a bar and got pretty drunk with 2 american guys, after a couple of drinks, they tried to get my friend and i to leave with them, but knew what they both were after, so we said no coz our plane was very early nextday(even though we really had 5 extra days).anyway we satyed a little longer and after way to many to drink, i decided to leave. my friend said she was going to stay a while longer,i was on my way back to out hotel, when two american men stoped to ask me for a light, i said sure then went to look 4 one in my bag, i turned round 4 1second, and 1 of them pushed his arm up 2 my throat and pushed me up against a wall, while the other ripped my jeans open with his 2 hands, the one who was holding me up against a wall raped, me, the other guy just stood there watching and laughing. he then took a turn and also raped me. the first guy then made me perform an oral sex act on him.he didnt have a wepon or anything, but i did it coz i was scared they would rape me again. i kind of wished some1 would come to help me, but on the other hand i didnt want any1 to come and help me coz i felt so dirty. after wards i just lay on the floor crying. they both just walked of laughing, while throwing money at me and sayig "almost as good as a postertute" anyway i eventuly made my way back trying to cover myself up as best as i could, when i got back my friend stayed up waiting for me, i gave her the money and she asked where it all came from,i couldnt bare to tell her so said i found it, she said ok but i could tell that she knew i was lying, for the next few days i just stayed in the room and didnt leave, anyway when it came for us to leave i was emotionally weak, and couldnt pack, so my friend did it 4 me. she noticed my ripped jeans and shirt, and asked what really happened, i told her the truth, and she was there for me every moment of everyday, back in usa, we went to a clinic to see a doctor about hiv etc, and i was toled to take a pregnancy test, i did and i am know pregnat with one of their babys(1 month), i couldnt face telling my boyfriend what really happened, so i told him that WE were going to have a baby, but i got the biggest shock when he told me that he couldnt have children, so that the child couldnt be his. he now thinks i have been slepping around, and has thrown me out, i am now living my friend, but dont agree with abortion, but i cant bare to have the rapists baby. anyway thats it, thanks for listing, i dont expect a reply, but i woild really love 1, even just to say hi. please take care coz i wouldnt want anything like what happened to me happen to you. x
The question is>>>where were u raped...in the bar?
dont worry abt her
every soul is accountable for thier action on The Day
quote:
Originally posted by lil princess:
hi every1, just thought id say im honestly stuck on weither 2 believe will or not.at first i did believe her and felt really sorry for her when people slagged her off, but know im not so sure, some people have offered her support and we havent heared from her. i for 1 would like to know what happened to her, and found out how she is doin.her story sounded real to me, but i feel that she may be lying and has understood that people dont like lying, and there for has left this site, what do u all think? luv ya xx
i say shes lying and proves it by not answering her accusers or her supporters.
why post it if u dont want to reply ?
big disservice to those women who are REALLY raped in this world.
quote:
Originally posted by JOSHUA:
The question is>>>where were u raped...in the bar?
I actually don't believe her either for 2 reasons.
1- She couldn't be raped in a public Bar in front of people.
2- Raped from 2 American guys, specified too too many times "American guys".
She could probably had this mixture of a fantasy of being raped and a hate against Americans in a lonley night against the computer.
quote:
Originally posted by willow:
hi every1, i have a really big problem, and i dont really think i need any advise, just some1 2 listen while i get it off my chest. the main reason i an on here is just 2 tell some1 what happened 2 me while in egypt. as i cant tell my friends or familly. ok here i go, (sigh) i went 2 egypt, with my best friend for a 2week break, it was the best evr hoilday until 5days b4 we were due to come home. we went to a bar and got pretty drunk with 2 american guys, after a couple of drinks, they tried to get my friend and i to leave with them, but knew what they both were after, so we said no coz our plane was very early nextday(even though we really had 5 extra days).anyway we satyed a little longer and after way to many to drink, i decided to leave. my friend said she was going to stay a while longer,i was on my way back to out hotel, when two american men stoped to ask me for a light, i said sure then went to look 4 one in my bag, i turned round 4 1second, and 1 of them pushed his arm up 2 my throat and pushed me up against a wall, while the other ripped my jeans open with his 2 hands, the one who was holding me up against a wall raped, me, the other guy just stood there watching and laughing. he then took a turn and also raped me. the first guy then made me perform an oral sex act on him.he didnt have a wepon or anything, but i did it coz i was scared they would rape me again. i kind of wished some1 would come to help me, but on the other hand i didnt want any1 to come and help me coz i felt so dirty. after wards i just lay on the floor crying. they both just walked of laughing, while throwing money at me and sayig "almost as good as a postertute" anyway i eventuly made my way back trying to cover myself up as best as i could, when i got back my friend stayed up waiting for me, i gave her the money and she asked where it all came from,i couldnt bare to tell her so said i found it, she said ok but i could tell that she knew i was lying, for the next few days i just stayed in the room and didnt leave, anyway when it came for us to leave i was emotionally weak, and couldnt pack, so my friend did it 4 me. she noticed my ripped jeans and shirt, and asked what really happened, i told her the truth, and she was there for me every moment of everyday, back in usa, we went to a clinic to see a doctor about hiv etc, and i was toled to take a pregnancy test, i did and i am know pregnat with one of their babys(1 month), i couldnt face telling my boyfriend what really happened, so i told him that WE were going to have a baby, but i got the biggest shock when he told me that he couldnt have children, so that the child couldnt be his. he now thinks i have been slepping around, and has thrown me out, i am now living my friend, but dont agree with abortion, but i cant bare to have the rapists baby. anyway thats it, thanks for listing, i dont expect a reply, but i woild really love 1, even just to say hi. please take care coz i wouldnt want anything like what happened to me happen to you. x
Get a life story teller! More bored than ever I see.
quote:
Originally posted by 1mangang:
i say shes lying and proves it by not answering her accusers or her supporters.why post it if u dont want to reply ?
big disservice to those women who are REALLY raped in this world.
It is just my openion that i would not call it rape, i would say she "or anyone put herself in this position" get what she expect.
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Originally posted by lil princess:
i totally agree with the fact that she wernt raped, but 1 thing that i have 2 correct joshua on is that she didnt actualy say that she was raped in da bar, she said "i decided to leave. my friend said she was going to stay a while longer,i was on my way back to out hotel, when two american men stoped to ask me for a light," but other than that, i hope she feels proud of herself for lying!
2 Americans men stopped her for a light in her way out of the Bar...and raped her...in Egypt. Out of the Bar could be A- Street. B- Hotel "hotel Bars".
and right away she looked at them in the eyes and realized that they were Americans.
I like the fact that the person who wrote this really did make the attempt to convince people taking all this time to write it. It makes me wonder of the kind of sick minds we are surronded with sometimes.
I do not know what rice got to do with the girl's story.
If it is authentic question then the answer is rice is grown mainly at the delta region with the water is plentiful.
Once, I was in a spice shop buying Hilba for the return trip home to Houston. This was during Ramadan, and I was conservatively dressed (with hijab) and with my husband. The shop was quite small, and many people were by the counter, so I waited in the back of the shop where I noticed two brothers who were engrossed in studying the Qu'ran. I really tried to be as unobtrusive as possible, since I respect their intentions. I turned my back to the brothers and quietly waited for the man to finish my hilba. I am unsure of what happened, but apparently one of the brothers became upset with me standing there. Before I knew it, my husband was behind my back between the brothers and myself. My husband became very angry, and I understand enough of his arabic to know he was yelling at them for trying to push me. We promptly left the shop and bought the hilba in another place.
My point is, that sometimes, despite everything we do, the unfortunate event continues to take place. If infact this woman had a baby who was born out of misfortune, he is still a gift from God. None of us know for certainty what promise this child holds, regardless of his unfortunate beginning.
What decisions you make after a significant clamity, is what separates great people from the ordinary. The Qu'ran says "But give glad tidings for those who patiently persevere, who say when afflicted with clamity, to Allah we belong, and to him is our return. They are those on who descend blessings from the lord, and mercy...and they are the ones who receive guidence."
A baby that Allah gives, even in bad circumstances, is something that changes your entire life and living(as every parent can appreciate).
You can also take these words from a woman who could never have children. There is no such thing as a bad child, even from bad circumstances.
Let go of the past, live for the present and make wise choices that benefit your baby. Do not punish him for the unfortunate incident that brought him into your life. Allah never does anything without a purpose. You are a woman, and what experiences happen...make you wiser and stronger.
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Originally posted by farooqsaid1:
It is just my openion that i would not call it rape, i would say she "or anyone put herself in this position" get what she expect.
If a woman is drunk and not in her control it doesn't give a man any right to take advantage of it.
Many women getting raped, sexually assaulted and even killed and didn't know the rapist neither they did anything what could cause this crime; they were just at the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Originally posted by farooqsaid1:
It is just my openion that i would not call it rape, i would say she "or anyone put herself in this position" get what she expect.
This comment of yours farooqsaid1 supports my earlier critique of you. No wonder your wife is lossing it. If I was her I'd throw you out with the dirty water.
but nway how, we shud just point out y islaam prohibits
1)alchol
2)women going out [nearly] naked
or shud i say, y islaam tell wome to cover thier modesty...not to lose ther freedom [ie fulfil mens desire each time u go out of ur door]
have a nice evening everyone