I began chatting with a man from Egypt a little over a year ago. We would bump into each other and chat about the world and religion we are both involved in the theatre and I found we had a lot in common. A few months ago we were chatting and I found myself inviting him to come to the U.S.A. to meet me. At this point I still considered him my Egyptian friend and I looked forward to bumping into him. Our chats slowly became more than just friendly and I found myself becoming more and more excited at the prospect of meeting this person so far away. We talked about it and he planned for it and finally last Tuesday went to his Visa appointment. THEY WOULD NOT GIVE HIM ONE. I am disgusted and completely dissappointed. I also feel ridiculous for getting emotionally involved with someone so far away. I am looking forward and considering planning my own trip to Egypt but I am so angry that because of ignorance and stupidity he cannot even get a Visa to come and visit the U.S. Is there any way around this has anyone else overcome this Visa issue?
Posted by Sonomod_me (Member # 10522) on :
quote:Originally posted by Level73: I began chatting with a man from Egypt a little over a year ago. We would bump into each other and chat about the world and religion we are both involved in the theatre and I found we had a lot in common. A few months ago we were chatting and I found myself inviting him to come to the U.S.A. to meet me. At this point I still considered him my Egyptian friend and I looked forward to bumping into him. Our chats slowly became more than just friendly and I found myself becoming more and more excited at the prospect of meeting this person so far away. We talked about it and he planned for it and finally last Tuesday went to his Visa appointment. THEY WOULD NOT GIVE HIM ONE. I am disgusted and completely dissappointed. I also feel ridiculous for getting emotionally involved with someone so far away. I am looking forward and considering planning my own trip to Egypt but I am so angry that because of ignorance and stupidity he cannot even get a Visa to come and visit the U.S. Is there any way around this has anyone else overcome this Visa issue?
Go to him in person.
Go to Egypt!
Then f*ck his brains out, his brother, his friends, his coworkers (if he does work), his bawab (if he has a home), and who else you can find to screw.
Heck, lets see if you can round up 500 select western females to screw the entire nation.
Then we can call the funeral home director and give ES its proper buriel. Its about time, it really stinks around here. Posted by Level73 (Member # 11263) on :
Wow that really helped thank you for your in depth response.
Posted by mike rozier (Member # 10852) on :
have you written your congress person?
Posted by Level73 (Member # 11263) on :
I wrote the consulate awhile back and they wanted all of his personal information. I hesitate to share it because I am afraid then he will never get to come here.
Posted by mike rozier (Member # 10852) on :
is he in al quada?
Posted by Level73 (Member # 11263) on :
NO!
Posted by mike rozier (Member # 10852) on :
are you sure????
what is this personal information about him, you feel the US goverment might frown upon?
Posted by Sonomod_me (Member # 10522) on :
quote:Originally posted by Level73: NO!
How big is his dick? Come on you can tell me, and I know you've seen it. All internet cafes have webcams. And I don't think there are many Egyptian guys who meet foreign women on the internet who won't whip out their Johnson when the situation calls for it.
How big was he?
Posted by Level73 (Member # 11263) on :
I'm way more dissappointed that I even shared anything on this forum. What a joke. I was going through some of these posts and noticed that some people actually took the time to care. My mistake. You people are a joke.
Posted by mike rozier (Member # 10852) on :
please excuse sonomod, lets think this thing out.
Posted by Sonomod_me (Member # 10522) on :
quote:Originally posted by Level73: I'm way more dissappointed that I even shared anything on this forum. What a joke. I was going through some of these posts and noticed that some people actually took the time to care. My mistake. You people are a joke.
Please don't go away, all my girlfriends are married so the juicy details all start to sound the same (and yes they are monogamous, for once in their lives).
I need to hear something new.
Last time I was over to help prepare for the MIL visit of my girlfriend I actually gave her husband's crotch a dirty look. I mean if he can't spice up my phone time voyarism, then you must pull up the slack!
Come on, how big is he?
Posted by mike rozier (Member # 10852) on :
I don't think your helping sonomod.....
:/
Posted by Sonomod_me (Member # 10522) on :
quote:Originally posted by mike rozier: please excuse sonomod, lets think this thing out.
Nothing to think out. My girlfriends have been married for 5-7 years. They missed out on the cybersex.
I missed out on the girlfriend recounting their cybersex to me.
What the heck?!?
I can picture the background, the waiters walking around with clear shot glasses of tea. The old man scratching his privates in front of his son's store, the huddle of young men standing around discussing the world cup because they can't afford to watch it at those coffee houses.
I picture it all. And then he grabs his Johnson.
oh goodness maybe I don't want to see it. No wonder Egypt uses metric unites instead of US units.
Oh good gracious what a let down. Posted by mike rozier (Member # 10852) on :
I'd give you some cybersex sonomad, but I don't trust you..with the kicking and all...
I wonder if the US goverment would let alizee visit me...hmmmm
Posted by Charm El Feikh? (Member # 10243) on :
quote:Originally posted by Level73: You people are a joke.
geez... i go off line for.... 8 and a half hours, to sleep, wash eat, get my kids up, washed, fed and out to play and come back to find i am a joke because 1 username came across sono.
if.. as you said you have been reading the forum, you should be aware of sonomod.
there is a time difference across the planet you know.
quite frankly i couldnt give a toss about your situation now.
Posted by Snapdragon (Member # 9036) on :
It is virtually impossible for any Egyptian male (specially young) to get a visitor visa to the USA. The only visas that get approved are the marriage and fiance ones and they still take a lot of paperwork, time, money and a lot of patience.
quote:Originally posted by Level73: I began chatting with a man from Egypt a little over a year ago. We would bump into each other and chat about the world and religion we are both involved in the theatre and I found we had a lot in common. A few months ago we were chatting and I found myself inviting him to come to the U.S.A. to meet me. At this point I still considered him my Egyptian friend and I looked forward to bumping into him. Our chats slowly became more than just friendly and I found myself becoming more and more excited at the prospect of meeting this person so far away. We talked about it and he planned for it and finally last Tuesday went to his Visa appointment. THEY WOULD NOT GIVE HIM ONE. I am disgusted and completely dissappointed. I also feel ridiculous for getting emotionally involved with someone so far away. I am looking forward and considering planning my own trip to Egypt but I am so angry that because of ignorance and stupidity he cannot even get a Visa to come and visit the U.S. Is there any way around this has anyone else overcome this Visa issue?
Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
quote:Originally posted by Snapdragon: It is virtually impossible for any Egyptian male (specially young) to get a visitor visa to the USA. The only visas that get approved are the marriage and fiance ones and they still take a lot of paperwork, time, money and a lot of patience.
It is all about do they think he is going to come back and obviously in your case they didn't. I do know of an Egyptian man who got a visitors visa to the states but he was quite inportant in the SCA so they knew he was coming back.
You hint there is something you don't want to reveal on a public forum well if you kept something back at the enbassy I bet they spotted it. They are so skillful about knowing whether they have been told the whole truth.
Posted by mike rozier (Member # 10852) on :
hell, all you have to do is visit mexico then run across the border..US customs hands out free coffee and doughnuts to all who cross the border..
if they ask any questions just say "no comprendo"...
si?
Posted by Sonomod_me (Member # 10522) on :
quote:Originally posted by akshar:
quote:Originally posted by Snapdragon: It is virtually impossible for any Egyptian male (specially young) to get a visitor visa to the USA. The only visas that get approved are the marriage and fiance ones and they still take a lot of paperwork, time, money and a lot of patience.
It is all about do they think he is going to come back and obviously in your case they didn't. I do know of an Egyptian man who got a visitors visa to the states but he was quite inportant in the SCA so they knew he was coming back.
You hint there is something you don't want to reveal on a public forum well if you kept something back at the enbassy I bet they spotted it. They are so skillful about knowing whether they have been told the whole truth.
akshar isn't that a vistors visa your love interest recieved?
Seriously now there has been a handle of fake threads over the last week, and I think I know who is behind it. Recieved confirmation on this username from several other usernames.
Its a fake thread. I won't be gullible to sit here and entertain an israeli. But if you are go ahead.
And akshar, if your love interest is going to overstay his visa why wouldn't you just turn him in to immigration?
Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
Yes it was a visitors visa my husband received and being as it is so unusual to get one I thought I would pass on our experience so people could benefit from it. BTW you can call him my husband not my love interest, the British embassy did.
The reason I asked about child cruelty was the thread about Egyptian wives, the woman there was asking if there was equality in the home and how terrible it was if men didn't help out. now I have a theory that that the Western woman's mistaken quest for equality has sown the seeds of destruction of Western society. I wanted the child cruelty figures to prove my case. You see what women have done is strive for male roles instead of getting females roles to be seen as just as vital for society. Men have then be demasculated because they are not need by these masculine women who can control a stock market, mend a fuse and give birth all on the same day. Single parent families have grown and with is child cruelty. I believe that traditional societies as spoken of in the old testament, new and Koran are healthier.
My husband wouldn't overstay his visa for exactly the same reason the British embassy gave him one, he has too much in Egypt. Having said that and going back to my second point, where is it that we think Western societys are so brilliant with those kind of child death statistics that any Egyptian would be stupid enough to want to stay there.
Posted by Sonomod_me (Member # 10522) on :
quote:Originally posted by akshar: Yes it was a visitors visa my husband received and being as it is so unusual to get one I thought I would pass on our experience so people could benefit from it. BTW you can call him my husband not my love interest, the British embassy did.
The reason I asked about child cruelty was the thread about Egyptian wives, the woman there was asking if there was equality in the home and how terrible it was if men didn't help out. now I have a theory that that the Western woman's mistaken quest for equality has sown the seeds of destruction of Western society. I wanted the child cruelty figures to prove my case. You see what women have done is strive for male roles instead of getting females roles to be seen as just as vital for society. Men have then be demasculated because they are not need by these masculine women who can control a stock market, mend a fuse and give birth all on the same day. Single parent families have grown and with is child cruelty. I believe that traditional societies as spoken of in the old testament, new and Koran are healthier.
My husband wouldn't overstay his visa for exactly the same reason the British embassy gave him one, he has too much in Egypt. Having said that and going back to my second point, where is it that we think Western societys are so brilliant with those kind of child death statistics that any Egyptian would be stupid enough to want to stay there.
And the Egyptian cultural confines for women (not Islamic) are serving you plenty.
And British Embassy understands very well its better to play along and do the song and dance, women in your life stage will make their lives hell.
Remember if the British Embassy considers you his wife, it takes legal precedence, and he could have access to what little you have left in England.
Don't dig your own hole in the ground akshar.
Posted by mike rozier (Member # 10852) on :
Level73 , how could you be "Completely Discouraged" if you became more discouraged after being subjected to Sonomod?
:/
Posted by Level73 (Member # 11263) on :
Charm... my guess is you couldn't give a toss before either. I wasn't speaking to you only to those who responded to my post with the sensitivity of a baseball bat. But I will lump you in with them now. Akshar thank you for taking the time to actually respond with some encouragement. I have spoken with my friend and we have decided that I will go there eventually to meet him and his family and take it one step at a time. Meanwhile, I hope both countries will find some common ground on this and not pin all Muslim men as terrorists.
Posted by Charm El Feikh? (Member # 10243) on :
Charm... my guess is you couldn't give a toss before either .
and you base that on what exactly?
I wasn't speaking to you only to those who responded to my post with the sensitivity of a baseball bat.
that was 1 person... but you said "you PEOPLE are a joke" so you can see how it appears you are addressing the entire forum.
But I will lump you in with them now.
you mean lump me in with her, not them. a simple explanation would have done, instead youve came in here, stropped and are "lumping" me in with the "jokes"
yet you are hoping people dont pin all muslim men as terrorists? your a bit quick to pin me were you not?!
Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
I don't believe that the rejection was was becasue of terrorism but of illegal immigration. Do the US Embassy give a reason for refusal. I know lots don't but the British does and nearly always it is because they think you will overstay your visa.
I think it will be good for you to come and spend some time here if you can. You will find it a big culture shock and indeed there is a book of that title you can buy on Egypt which might help you.
Eventually if things go that far if you can get work here of some kind you might find it a better life than america less materialistic and more family orientated.
Posted by giza bird (Member # 11239) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sonomod_me:
quote:Originally posted by Level73: NO!
How big is his dick? Come on you can tell me, and I know you've seen it. All internet cafes have webcams. And I don't think there are many Egyptian guys who meet foreign women on the internet who won't whip out their Johnson when the situation calls for it.
How big was he?
Posted by giza bird (Member # 11239) on :
You call Western women whores? You really are the dirtiest filth ive heard .LOOK IN THE MIRROR
Posted by Level73 (Member # 11263) on :
akshar do you know if I agree to marry him how difficult it will be to get the Visa for him. I am not in a position with my career and I have a very sick mother to leave the U.S. now. Would we have to marry here? Or if we marry there how difficult will it be to get him back here with me. He says he doesn't want citizenship here but he understands my situation and would come here for awhile.
Posted by Level73 (Member # 11263) on :
Charm... there were actually two people that responded to me thus "you people" seemed appropriate. The world does not revolve around you. I didn't even know you existed when I was responding to those people (there I go again using the plural form when responding to more than one person) I was only speaking to those that came before you. Get over yourself.
Posted by Marcella (Member # 10978) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sonomod_me:
quote:Originally posted by Level73: NO!
How big is his dick? Come on you can tell me, and I know you've seen it. All internet cafes have webcams. And I don't think there are many Egyptian guys who meet foreign women on the internet who won't whip out their Johnson when the situation calls for it.
How big was he?
You are disgusting!!!But it is nothing new about you.Do you have some problems in your life?I don't think you have any girl friend,because no one'd like to be girl friend of freak as you are.
Posted by Charm El Feikh? (Member # 10243) on :
quote:Originally posted by Level73: Charm... there were actually two people that responded to me thus "you people" seemed appropriate. The world does not revolve around you. I didn't even know you existed when I was responding to those people (there I go again using the plural form when responding to more than one person) I was only speaking to those that came before you. Get over yourself.
mike rozier was being serious. there was only 1 person who wasnt helping you.
but yes, i will get over myself... good luck with your problem though, youre gonna need it honey!
Posted by Level73 (Member # 11263) on :
Ah yes... so serious. Don't call me honey and don't wish me luck. I know you don't mean it. Why have you taken issue with me? I have done nothing to you. I came here for help not heckling.
hell, all you have to do is visit mexico then run across the border..US customs hands out free coffee and doughnuts to all who cross the border..
if they ask any questions just say "no comprendo"...
si? -mike rozier
Posted by Sonomod_me (Member # 10522) on :
quote:Originally posted by Level73: Charm... there were actually two people that responded to me thus "you people" seemed appropriate. The world does not revolve around you. I didn't even know you existed when I was responding to those people (there I go again using the plural form when responding to more than one person) I was only speaking to those that came before you. Get over yourself.
What I don't understand is how after possibly the 3,200 thread of this nature advice is going to be any different.
Like your experience is any differnt than 5/6 other new ES usernames.
Seriously can't any username get beyond, "I met this Egyptian guy online/vacation......"
Posted by Charm El Feikh? (Member # 10243) on :
LOl... sono... dont you see... its WE who are sad being in here so long as to have heard every variation of these stories...
ES is the first place people land when they think they are the only person in the world who this has happened to... most post here for a week or so... some stay till they cant stand it any longer....
then theres us!!!!
Posted by Sonomod_me (Member # 10522) on :
quote:Originally posted by Charm El Feikh?: LOl... sono... dont you see... its WE who are sad being in here so long as to have heard every variation of these stories...
ES is the first place people land when they think they are the only person in the world who this has happened to... most post here for a week or so... some stay till they cant stand it any longer....
then theres us!!!!
Okay maybe I am the obnixious idiot here (usually I am), but when I signed up I spent a few weeks reading the posts and noticed my situation was rare.
Met the old fashioned way, married for an old fashioned reason and basically unlike many cross-cultural, inter-faith relationships I didn't have to deal with 90% of ES BS.
I have my own exciting special unique BS to deal with.
And most of the time I think Iam one of 200 who spent more than two weeks reading the post material.
I stay because once in a great while after I have posted an article of importance, some rare username has a distinguished personal response to what is happening in their country. Completely rare, 1 in 600 posts. But it enriches my understanding. And it also helps me select better books to read on Egypt, Islam, Coptology, Politics, history.
I can't read everything.
Posted by ' Sharon Stone ' (Member # 5169) on :
quote:Originally posted by Level73: I also feel ridiculous for getting emotionally involved with someone so far away.
Don't blame yourself. You did not have any idea that it will lead to that point.
Posted by charm el feikh? (Member # 10243) on :
quote:Originally posted by Level73: Don't call me honey and don't wish me luck.
fair enough muppet... crash and burn.
that better?
Posted by OneLoveOnePeople (Member # 9667) on :
i love ya sonomod, charm and mike rozier, ya crack me up after a long day.....
Posted by _Masrawi_ (Member # 9597) on :
quote:Originally posted by Snapdragon: It is virtually impossible for any Egyptian male (specially young) to get a visitor visa to the USA.
Which idiot told u that?
Posted by charm el feikh? (Member # 10243) on :
quote:Originally posted by OneLoveOnePeople: i love ya sonomod, charm and mike rozier, ya crack me up after a long day.....
well then i love ya right back!
...oh wait...
are you egyptian? did i just fall in love over the internet?
will you marry me habibi? Posted by Tibe (Member # 10253) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sonomod_me:
quote:Originally posted by Charm El Feikh?: LOl... sono... dont you see... its WE who are sad being in here so long as to have heard every variation of these stories...
ES is the first place people land when they think they are the only person in the world who this has happened to... most post here for a week or so... some stay till they cant stand it any longer....
then theres us!!!!
Okay maybe I am the obnixious idiot here (usually I am), but when I signed up I spent a few weeks reading the posts and noticed my situation was rare.
Met the old fashioned way, married for an old fashioned reason and basically unlike many cross-cultural, inter-faith relationships I didn't have to deal with 90% of ES BS.
I have my own exciting special unique BS to deal with.
And most of the time I think Iam one of 200 who spent more than two weeks reading the post material.
I stay because once in a great while after I have posted an article of importance, some rare username has a distinguished personal response to what is happening in their country. Completely rare, 1 in 600 posts. But it enriches my understanding. And it also helps me select better books to read on Egypt, Islam, Coptology, Politics, history.
I can't read everything.
If you find the stories so boring in here why dont you leave?? That actually goes fore you too charm (sorry to say so)..... You think you are in charge of what people may think and write inhere - news flash YOUR NOT. Could it be that its because you have a hard time finding real friends out in the real world????
Posted by charm el feikh? (Member # 10243) on :
er.. news flash... where does it say i find these stories boring?! but i accept your apology.
as for the last sentence... go dangle your carrot in front of someone who brays Posted by Tibe (Member # 10253) on :
quote:Originally posted by Charm El Feikh?: LOl... sono... dont you see... its WE who are sad being in here so long as to have heard every variation of these stories...
ES is the first place people land when they think they are the only person in the world who this has happened to... most post here for a week or so... some stay till they cant stand it any longer....
then theres us!!!!
these comments sounds like you think the others inhere are boring and in generel your comments shows that you think you are pretty superior to us lowlifes........ And when will you find time to see reallife friends. I mean you are posting inhere 20 hours a day 7 days a week, - and phonesex friends doesn't count.
Posted by Tibe (Member # 10253) on :
quote:Originally posted by charm el feikh?:
as for the last sentence... go dangle your carrot in front of someone who brays [/QB]
I guess I hit a soft spot...... Posted by charm el feikh? (Member # 10243) on :
perhaps its your lack of understanding of english..
it means go and try to pick a cat fight with someone who has nothing better to do than scratch.
Posted by With a name like Smuckers (Member # 10289) on :
ok, we're all friends here, remember this person is in a desperate situation to get this man a visa without ever meeting him~ let's stick to the issues Posted by charm el feikh? (Member # 10243) on :
quote:Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers: we're all friends here,
ive never liked you smuckers Posted by Timo (Member # 7193) on :
quote:Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers: ok, we're all friends here, remember this person is in a desperate situation to get this man a visa without ever meeting him~ let's stick to the issues
thumbs up to u smuckers Posted by Level73 (Member # 11263) on :
Wow, I haven't been here for a few days because I actually have a life. I had no idea I would be the catalyst for so many jokes and so much ignorance. Some of you have taken the time to actually offer advice and suggestions and I really appreciate it! It reminds that there really are solutions to problems and people out there who will try to help. To those of you who have minimized my situation to jokes I especially liked this one... smuckers I owe you a special thanks if I had a most insensitive remark statue to award you with I would be right over. This was way better than Sonomod asking how big my friends dick was! I mean it really breaks it down in a way I hadn't even thought of before.
"ok, we're all friends here, remember this person is in a desperate situation to get this man a visa without ever meeting him~ let's stick to the issues" You guys are the greatest so glad I shared with you my story on this message board. I hope all the newcomers to this website are treated with such warmth!!!!
Posted by charm el feikh? (Member # 10243) on :
no, your special!
Posted by gypsyprincess1 (Member # 11312) on :
Hello...it happened to me...my husband now was supposed to come to Canada to meet all of my side of the family. But, given the situation with travel visas for egyptians I travelled there for our engagement...and to meet his family. It was horrible..while my husband is a man with a very reputable career, and some stability...and was divorced..he still was refused entry as well. After a very lengthy letter to head of immigration I started from the top going down...to the african visa management..then to Egypt visa selection comittee etc...i also said that I would fly to Cairo to launch my complaint in person--all of this happened within five hours of his denial. I knew I must act very fast..and assume a proactive role in obtaining one for him... Prior to landing two days later in Cairo..my fiance informed me that the manager of the visa office..called and apologized as Canada had been intouch, and that they were sorry I was flying in...they opened up the embassy for us on a non-visa day, and while he was reinterviewed by the manager...he was granted a two year visa...to make all the trips necessary until I could move there. So, if things are done appropriately, and with a clear and concise and matter of fact way--document everything..it can be done. Good luck to you. It certainly isn't easy, but true love is worth all the trouble.
Posted by Snapdragon (Member # 9036) on :
LOL You Danish are just so funny...I love it! Can we please get some more Danish cheese and buter back in Egypt. I miss it.
quote:Originally posted by Tibe:
quote:Originally posted by Charm El Feikh?: LOl... sono... dont you see... its WE who are sad being in here so long as to have heard every variation of these stories...
ES is the first place people land when they think they are the only person in the world who this has happened to... most post here for a week or so... some stay till they cant stand it any longer....
then theres us!!!!
these comments sounds like you think the others inhere are boring and in generel your comments shows that you think you are pretty superior to us lowlifes........ And when will you find time to see reallife friends. I mean you are posting inhere 20 hours a day 7 days a week, - and phonesex friends doesn't count.
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