I read all the posts and have decided that they always seem to be bad - Egyptian men getting married or seeing Western women - using them for all different things ie, money visa etc..... Does any one have any good news to tell us... I would like to know if everyone who gets with an Egyptian man has trouble after trouble... cos reading some of the posts it seems that women always say BEWARE.... Does no one have any faith in these men...
Oh yes i am with an Egyptain guy ans so far no bad news... yes i am cautious but then why would i not be. x
Posted by Isis84 (Member # 14716) on :
I have good news - been happily married with my Egyptian husband since June last year. I know him since October 2005 when he visited his sister and I was her roommate in a dorm when I was on a 1 year student exchange in the US. We liked each other at first sight, kept in touch and met often since then before getting married - at my home in Europe and I travelled to Egypt two times before. So far so good, we still travel a lot and life is never boring
I wish you all the best and I am sure others will add their good stories. But as you know, bad stories make more news and are far more interesting to most people that is why you hear mostly those ...
Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
I have been happily married to my Egyptian man since October 2004, now living in Luxor since April 2007 and all is great. Posted by egypt 2007 (Member # 14398) on :
Oh great,,,, so far some good news,,, lets hope there is more good news. Did any of you experience the bad problems that some ES members have had. I do know i am not the only member wishing to hear good news, Many membersare scared to post there news and views and problems due to many others giveing grief along the way. Good luck to you both...in your future ahead.
Posted by Kleobatra (Member # 14882) on :
I do believe in happy cross cultural marriages. I do believe in holiday romances that end up in serious commitments. I even believe in love at first sight. But I think that Egypt is one of those countries where a lot of sham marriages are going on between women from the west and local guys. Female tourists should be aware of that. Some guys are so desperate to get into more money or to leave the country they even would declare Godzilla their eternal love for it. But they forget they have to live with Godzilla when they are married. So the relationship is bound to fail from the beginning.
Posted by Sashyra8 (Member # 14488) on :
I've been happily divorced since last May 2007,and no regrets! Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
egypt2007, you have to be aware that the bad things DO happen and happen a LOT. It all depends on the man AND the woman, there are a LOT of western women who do come to Egypt for a 'bit of fun' and plenty of men willing to show them fun. A lot of women then start crying of being ripped off etc and sometimes the men also come on here and slag off the women, as it happening now in other threads.
Then there are those who are in good marriages who will tell their story, like me, and have others coming to tell you how blind or stupid you are and you will be soon put out to graze, so telling a good story is not something done too often here as everyone then starts to attack and they are just longing for the day you say it all fell apart.
All you can do is let them get on with their own ideas of how your life is, you know your man and no one else can tell you what he thinks. If you get any red flags then you have to decide whats right for you. Dont forget to LOVE YOU more than anything if something does raise a red flag. I know women who are being told by phone to bring or send money and if they dont its over, if you get anyting like that keep your self respect and tell him to go jump in the Nile.
Not ALL Egyptian men are rats, not ALL western women are easy. Some men want a visa some want money some want both, and will have many 'wives' as a means to that end. Then there are the others with one wife with no desire to leave Egypt and will happily get off his arse and work.
There are many happy stories although not all those women are on ES. Here we seem to have just the insane ones Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sashyra8: I've been happily divorced since last May 2007,and no regrets!
Mabruk sash Posted by MICKY A (Member # 11209) on :
i might be getting a new job as a manager for a well known restaurant in my area. had a phone interview yesterday , had to answer a lot of tough questions, they told me i am so qualified and so impressed with my answers. will get a call back today to see if i got the job,fingers crossed everyone xxxxx
Posted by doodlebug (Member # 11649) on :
My good news is that I woke up to find out I'm not listed in today's obituaries! Any day above ground's a good one! Posted by MICKY A (Member # 11209) on :
quote:Originally posted by doodlebug: My good news is that I woke up to find out I'm not listed in today's obituaries! Any day above ground's a good one!
i thank god your still around Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
LOL @ doodle
everything crossed Micky, let us know
Posted by cloudberry (Member # 11163) on :
Not any bad news here either, not at all.
I just don't think people who are happy will tell that around, no reason to. People seem to write forums when something goes wrong and ask for advice (nothing wrong with it but that's why all posts seem so negative).
In my home country people mostly get annoyed if someone is telling how happy he or she is. So it's best to keep these things to yourself and enjoy what you have It almost seems as too many people wish everyone else to be unhappy or something? Dunno
I also know many other people IRL who are in happy relationships, have children etc. Bad stories I read only in Internet! But I see how things are here in Luxor...
Posted by MICKY A (Member # 11209) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ayisha: LOL @ doodle
everything crossed Micky, let us know
thanks girl Posted by egypt 2007 (Member # 14398) on :
Hi all .... Just to let you all know. Its nice to know that there are some good stories around ES... I just get so fed up and so ill thinking here we go again another bad story what have i to watch for now.....its good to know that soem do get through.
Posted by zaphirelee (Member # 11074) on :
My friend is happily married since last June to a wonderful Egyptian.
Posted by elizabethN (Member # 14096) on :
I am happily married since feb 07 to my wonderful husband and dispite all the bad crap people write here about egyptian men and what users they are, I take it in one ear and out the other. everyone needs to keep their eyes open when entering a relationship and doesn't matter where the person is from. We have honesty, trust, repect and much love for each other. I adore him!
Posted by kentuckygirl9 (Member # 9949) on :
Reading here can make you paranoid about your man. I first came here to ES looking about places to visit and to learn about the culture before going to Egypt. My daughter was at that time falling for Egyptian guy, and we went on vacation there and they met in person and our family had a great vacation. Everything was too great. He was too nice. Then you read on here and start questioning..... So we started spying on him. Had people check on him. Check his emails. Run checks on his email Ids. etc.Give him tests. We made up different yahoo IDs and tried to talk to him and he wouldnt respond at all. And you know what we found? Absolutely nothing. So we give up trying to prove he is user. After all he made a point one time that she talked to him first and found him, so she must be wanting him for an Egyptian citizenship. HAHA.
Posted by yorkshire rose (Member # 12072) on :
Im happy too
Posted by Makbeta (Member # 14401) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sashyra8: I've been happily divorced since last May 2007,and no regrets!
Somebody told me once: Sometimes , paradoxically, we have to burn bridges in order to go forward. It makes sense.
If no regrets, that's good. Posted by trababe (Member # 11777) on :
im happy more so over last 3 weeks since my hubby came here to live Posted by yorkshire rose (Member # 12072) on :
Good for you huni
Posted by Snapdragon (Member # 9036) on :
Happily married to Egyptiam with a 1/2 Egyptian princess toddler for almost 5 years. See, not all stories are bad. You have several here just in this thread. Posted by Isis84 (Member # 14716) on :
Congratulations Snapdragon on the princess - now that I have met some of my hisband's cousin's kids I want a prince as a first child to look exactly like him Posted by Snapdragon (Member # 9036) on :
Well thank you so much Isis. Would you believe that your nickname was a name that my husband actually came up with for our daughter's name??? LOL Well needless to say we did NOT name her that.
My daughter looks exactly like daddy but with my eye and skin color... After she was born, we sent photos to his family, his mother said to my husband, "what did you do? Go and make a copy of yourself?" that is how it was translated. LOL
I am glad though. I was not sure what she would look like and I kept harassing my husband about it by saying "do you think she will have my eye color or yours?" "your hair color or mine?" "my this or your that? " LOL
After seeing several mixed raced babies (mostly American/European with Egyptian) they get a little of both parents which is great! Nice combinations. Gorgeous and unique!
Posted by Isis84 (Member # 14716) on :
Yes, I have seen some gorgeous babies from mixed couples myself - and on top of that everybody says that mixing genes make them smart too
From what I have observed - there are more sparkles in children eyes here in Egypt than you would find lets say in Europe, maybe because of moslty dark color or maybe I just see them here more now because I am getting ready to have a child Posted by dohasgirl (Member # 14574) on :
i am happy too
Posted by civil society (Member # 14880) on :
my best friend has been happily married to her egy husband for 6 years. there are good and bad in every country.
Posted by yorkshire rose (Member # 12072) on :
Yes thre are, good and bad, its not easy though, we have many cultur differencs. Its hard to adjust for sure, for me who had a free life for so long.
Posted by MICKY A (Member # 11209) on :
Well i am going back to college i am taking criminal investigation:eek: i am so interested in this , i have been for years never to old to learn who know i might be real good at it. Posted by yorkshire rose (Member # 12072) on :
ood luck Micky with collEGE, YOU ARE SO RIGHT TO CONTINUE FURTHER EDUCATION,GOOD FOR YOU. nEVER TO OLD TO LEARN, I DID A COUPLE COURSES, ITS NICE TO DO ADULT EDUCATION AND YOU MEET LODS OF NICE PEOPLE TOO. sORRY FOR SHOUTING HEHEHEHEHEHEHEH
Posted by walkingathinline (Member # 11504) on :
quote:Originally posted by egypt 2007: I read all the posts and have decided that they always seem to be bad - Egyptian men getting married or seeing Western women - using them for all different things ie, money visa etc..... Does any one have any good news to tell us... I would like to know if everyone who gets with an Egyptian man has trouble after trouble... cos reading some of the posts it seems that women always say BEWARE.... Does no one have any faith in these men...
Oh yes i am with an Egyptain guy ans so far no bad news... yes i am cautious but then why would i not be. x
i have faith! i have not had the 'usual' trouble (money, visas, etc)...but we all know that ANY relationship (whether it's romantic, family, work, etc.) is hard work...trust your instincts...everyone's experience is different...some good, some bad.
ahtemenelak haya saeeda!
Posted by harankash (Member # 14248) on :
Very very happily married nearly 3 years ago in UK. Then we moved to Egypt.
Dont take in all these fictitous'horror' stories here on ES by the way, they are just that!! fictitious
A lot made up by bored trolls in an attempt to cause friction. Easy to spot.
Posted by elizabethN (Member # 14096) on :
good to hear harankash and yes you are so right about the members here.
Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
Now if you asked about Egypt telecom and TEData that would be a different answer Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kleobatra: I do believe in happy cross cultural marriages. I do believe in holiday romances that end up in serious commitments. I even believe in love at first sight. But I think that Egypt is one of those countries where a lot of sham marriages are going on between women from the west and local guys. Female tourists should be aware of that. Some guys are so desperate to get into more money or to leave the country they even would declare Godzilla their eternal love for it. But they forget they have to live with Godzilla when they are married. So the relationship is bound to fail from the beginning.
So true
Yes there are happy stories but personally I am wary of telling mine. 1) you get attacked and 2) someone could take your story as a recommendation.
I have seen soem awful stories and frankly I think the statistics are firmly against Western/Egyptian relationship. Often this is because of a lack of research and understandign on both sides. The same words mean different things 'a good wife' to her might mean having a great careeer and contributing equally to the family budget to him it means staying at home and having kids.
I have known my hubby since 2000 and I have been married since 2002, living in Egypt since 2003. We have a great relationship, different from the UK but it works. I so respect and admire him as does he, me.
Posted by With a name like Smuckers (Member # 10289) on :
quote:Originally posted by akshar:
quote:Originally posted by Kleobatra: I do believe in happy cross cultural marriages. I do believe in holiday romances that end up in serious commitments. I even believe in love at first sight. But I think that Egypt is one of those countries where a lot of sham marriages are going on between women from the west and local guys. Female tourists should be aware of that. Some guys are so desperate to get into more money or to leave the country they even would declare Godzilla their eternal love for it. But they forget they have to live with Godzilla when they are married. So the relationship is bound to fail from the beginning.
So true
Yes there are happy stories but personally I am wary of telling mine. 1) you get attacked and 2) someone could take your story as a recommendation.
I have seen soem awful stories and frankly I think the statistics are firmly against Western/Egyptian relationship. Often this is because of a lack of research and understandign on both sides. The same words mean different things 'a good wife' to her might mean having a great careeer and contributing equally to the family budget to him it means staying at home and having kids.
I have known my hubby since 2000 and I have been married since 2002, living in Egypt since 2003. We have a great relationship, different from the UK but it works. I so respect and admire him as does he, me.
Well said. Posted by happybunny (Member # 14224) on :
Thats nice Akshar, i am glad you are happy. I understand what you mean about western/egyptain relationships. As someone pointed out recently there are more horror stories on boards like these because people who are happy don't tend to tell their stories. I met my hubby in 1993 and we married in 1995. I lived in Egypt for 4 years and had 2 children there (had another child here in the uk). We decided to come to the uk because of having the children really. We have been in the uk now for nearly 9 years and are very happy! We understand one another and work together on making our relationship work. We do intend to move back to egypt in the future after the kids have finished their studying.
There are many happy relationships on here and on the 'outside' but like i said people tend not to talk about them for fear of people being nasty (this has happened to me) on here, but hey as smuckers said recently you know the truth about your relationship who cares what others say! Posted by egypt 2007 (Member # 14398) on :
Again.. thanks im pleased fort he popel that have the guts to say they are happy... i have asked my man all the horrible questions that i have read on ES and he says "you read and listen to others too much,, try listening to me"..... so there you go.... i have to trust him but i am still cautious... Im out to Egypt in April and will have a great week without talking about ES worries... etc....
Thanks again x
Posted by goingthere (Member # 14911) on :
quote:Originally posted by egypt 2007: i have asked my man all the horrible questions that i have read on ES
What are these horrible questions I should be asking?
Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
1) how many wives have got 2) how many wives have you had 3) how many wives do you intend to have 4) how will you support me once we are married 5) how will you cope without children 6) will you live in Egypt with me 7) does your mother know about me 8) can I see the bills for the boat/car/house I bought you 9) can I see the bills for the operation your father had that I paid for 10) why do I have to be Muslim to marry you the Koran does not say that 11) will you let your mother cut our girls 12) is that your wife or your sister 13) why do you call me by the wrong name 14) whose clothes are these
Try those for starters Posted by MICKY A (Member # 11209) on :
quote:Originally posted by akshar: 1) how many wives have got 2) how many wives have you had 3) how many wives do you intend to have 4) how will you support me once we are married 5) how will you cope without children 6) will you live in Egypt with me 7) does your mother know about me 8) can I see the bills for the boat/car/house I bought you 9) can I see the bills for the operation your father had that I paid for 10) why do I have to be Muslim to marry you the Koran does not say that 11) will you let your mother cut our girls 12) is that your wife or your sister 13) why do you call me by the wrong name 14) whose clothes are these
Try those for starters
Posted by MrsCoconut (Member # 14823) on :
Any one seen this http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2127/2222093989_ffbbe9af83_o.jpg The above is recommended if you are non-Muslim. Carry it with you at all times. What if the Islamic declaration is dated after the above? Tricky.
Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
I want one that says 'Hell Yeah Im Muslim' 'when dead, plant as Muslim' Posted by MrsCoconut (Member # 14823) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ayisha: I want one that says 'Hell Yeah Im Muslim' 'when dead, plant as Muslim'
quote:Originally posted by akshar: 1) how many wives have got 2) how many wives have you had 3) how many wives do you intend to have 4) how will you support me once we are married 5) how will you cope without children 6) will you live in Egypt with me 7) does your mother know about me 8) can I see the bills for the boat/car/house I bought you 9) can I see the bills for the operation your father had that I paid for 10) why do I have to be Muslim to marry you the Koran does not say that 11) will you let your mother cut our girls 12) is that your wife or your sister 13) why do you call me by the wrong name 14) whose clothes are these
Try those for starters
Wow, this all seems very complicated. I guess I assumed he was unmarried/never married,but you know I never did ask! We are not at even discussing marriage at this point. Also no exchange of money, so that rules out a few more questions. I personally want to have children, so that rules out another. Wants to live in Egypt, family does not know, but once again, not at that point yet at all. However some questions I am confused about, why would his mother cut girls? And from the sound of it, is it just a culture where you must expect that you husband will be cheating on you? Not sure if I need to pursue this any further if that is the case.
Posted by civil society (Member # 14880) on :
quote:Originally posted by goingthere:
quote:Originally posted by akshar: 1) how many wives have got 2) how many wives have you had 3) how many wives do you intend to have 4) how will you support me once we are married 5) how will you cope without children 6) will you live in Egypt with me 7) does your mother know about me 8) can I see the bills for the boat/car/house I bought you 9) can I see the bills for the operation your father had that I paid for 10) why do I have to be Muslim to marry you the Koran does not say that 11) will you let your mother cut our girls 12) is that your wife or your sister 13) why do you call me by the wrong name 14) whose clothes are these
Try those for starters
Wow, this all seems very complicated. I guess I assumed he was unmarried/never married,but you know I never did ask! We are not at even discussing marriage at this point. Also no exchange of money, so that rules out a few more questions. I personally want to have children, so that rules out another. Wants to live in Egypt, family does not know, but once again, not at that point yet at all. However some questions I am confused about, why would his mother cut girls? And from the sound of it, is it just a culture where you must expect that you husband will be cheating on you? Not sure if I need to pursue this any further if that is the case.
the question of girl cutting is about female genital mutilation. it is extremely prevalent in egypt, even though it is 'technically' illegal.
the other question of cheating is that an unfortunate number of egyptians do cheat on their wives and find little to nothing wrong with it. not that it's all of them nor necessarily only an egyptian phenomenon.
Posted by goingthere (Member # 14911) on :
LOL. Certainly they did not invent cheating! But if they are working on perfecting it, that is not very good news either. Genital mutilation, wow. I thought that was becomng a thing of the past. I dont know yeesterday I was all hell fire for giving it a go, today.... it all seems like a sure path to heartbreak and sadness
Posted by Habeeby (Member # 14429) on :
I have good news - everything is going to plan at last 'YIPEEEEE'... Work is under control - court statements, Care plans filed, etc so my leave has been agreed I am up at this ungodly hour booking my flight and hopefully i will be in Alex about 2nd April
The wedding plans are taken care of, thanks to my Habeeby, his Family and our very good friends
The apartment in Alex is booked for 1 month - i am told it is on a private beach so i can laze about all day in my bikini (my only stipulation) Lol
Our honeymoon in Sharm is booked...
All i need to do now is find a way of getting my wedding dress to Egypt without losing it I kid you not....
Posted by Gamila64 (Member # 14923) on :
Egypt 2007, yes these mixed cultural marriages can last. This June will be 28 years anniversary for me and my Egyptian husband. It takes alot of give and take and I think this is true no matter who we marry. But make sure you know your Egyptian guys expectations of you before you ever marry him. Egypt is a very conservative society and he is used to certain roles for men and women. Get to know him well and spend alot of time together to see how he acts and reacts. But I have been very pleased with my Masri and always joke with him that if something ever happens to him I will have to get another one from Egypt, cuz I am so used to all the "harakat" now, I wouldn't know how to live without it.
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