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Posted by Son of Ra (Member # 20401) on :

Is there?

We do know their Y-DNA is mainly African and their MtDNA is diverse. And we know that they are greatly influenced by Near Eastern people.

But is the majority of their DNA African? Northern Sudanese people are very diverse group of people. Many consider themselves Arab, but in reality they're just Arabized Africans.

Northern Sudanese people range in looks. But I believe most looks like these people:

While the minority looks like these people:

So is there any Nuclear DNA studies on them? I know they are as admixed as African Americans. I believe they are about 64% East African + 20% North African + 16% Southwest Asian.

Essentially:
84% African + 16% Eurasian (16% Asian + 0% European).

Like African Americans are about 75-85% African + 10-20 European.

So I am asking is there any Nuclear DNA studies on them? And how African are they?

Posted by Swenet (Member # 17303) on :

See Tishkoff et al 2009 for their Beja samples and/or Babiker et al 2011

Posted by Son of Ra (Member # 20401) on :

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Originally posted by Swenet:
See Tishkoff et al 2009 for their Beja samples and/or Babiker et al 2011

Thanks man.

Posted by Swenet (Member # 17303) on :

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Originally posted by Son of Ra:

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Originally posted by Swenet:
See Tishkoff et al 2009 for their Beja samples and/or Babiker et al 2011
Thanks man.

Posted by Son of Ra (Member # 20401) on :

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Originally posted by Swenet:

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Originally posted by Son of Ra:

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Originally posted by Swenet:
See Tishkoff et al 2009 for their Beja samples and/or Babiker et al 2011
Thanks man.

Quick question and not stop like an idiot. When they mean Arab, they're talking about the Arabized Sudanese?

Because whats interesting is the Arabs seem to link closer to other Sudanese populations.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3118356/figure/F6/

And we all know most Northern Sudanese people consider themselves Arab. Again not to sound stupid.

Posted by Swenet (Member # 17303) on :

You don't sound stupid.. you just sound like you didn't read that paper, bro. Look at table 1 where they list their samples and their Anthropological classifications. They list Arabic speakers as ethnically Arab (which doesn't make sense) but that's the way they did it.

Posted by Son of Ra (Member # 20401) on :

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Originally posted by Swenet:
You don't sound stupid.. you just sound like you didn't read that paper, bro. Look at table 1 where they list their samples and their Anthropological classifications. They list Arabic speakers as ethnically Arab (which doesn't make sense) but that's the way they did it.

Now I get it.

Notice how the Bataheen are classified as Arab, yet they look like they have no Near Eastern mixture at all.

Posted by Swenet (Member # 17303) on :

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Notice how the Bataheen are classified as Arab, yet they look like they have no Near Eastern mixture at all.

^That's assuming the Near Easterners they mingled with were leukoderms, but yeah, I see what you mean. 'Assad', or 'Netanyahu' is not what comes to mind when I look at the folks in your picture.