Originally posted by the lioness,:
would Herodotus have considered this man to be black skinned?
yes or no please, no fancy stuff thanks
quote:His skin color is that of the average North Africa. But he would consider him black.
Originally posted by sudaniya:
Yes, Herodotus would have considered him black. If he considered the Colchians black (a people who were supposedly derivatives of male soldiers from the Egyptian army and Eurasian females), then I don't see why he would make an exception for Obama.
quote:--James A. Jones, Ph.D
HERODOTUS' CONTRIBUTION TO THE "BIG" QUESTIONS
Were Egyptians Africans? Herodotus believed that the Colchians (southern Black Sea area) were introduced to Asia by Egyptian expansion as far as Thrace and Scythia because "they have black skins and curly hair (not that that amounts to much, as other nations have the same)." [Herodotus, Histories, 167.] They also practised circumcision, unlike Mediterranean peoples of the time.
quote:The Ptolemy statues are artistic symbolism.
Originally posted by Fourty2Tribes:
I'm going to say no. Obama looks too much like a Ptolemy.
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:The Ptolemy statues are artistic symbolism.
Originally posted by Fourty2Tribes:
I'm going to say no. Obama looks too much like a Ptolemy.
quote:Its a Byzantine work of The sun-god Helios in a Ptolemy chariot
Originally posted by kdolo:
What is that Artwork - the disk ??
and the Ptolemy ststues are artistic symbokism of what exactly ?
quote:Herodotus would have probably been almost the same color as Obama, so he would not be considered black, but rather a Tawny Greek Brother.
Originally posted by the lioness,:
would Herodotus have considered this man to be black skinned?
yes or no please, no fancy stuff thanks
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quote:Obama would have been on the lighter side of the spectrum of what ancient Egyptians looked like.
Originally posted by iTrump:
quote:Herodotus would have probably been almost the same color as Obama, so he would not be considered black, but rather a Tawny Greek Brother.
Originally posted by the lioness,:
would Herodotus have considered this man to be black skinned?
yes or no please, no fancy stuff thanks
The Ancient Egyptians would likely have considered Obama a light skinned Nubian, that was the product of an Egyptian War Soldier and a Nubian Concubine!
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quote:The main genetic composition they carried is probably E-V13. Which is an old Northeast African remnant / mutation.
Originally posted by Fourty2Tribes:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:The Ptolemy statues are artistic symbolism.
Originally posted by Fourty2Tribes:
I'm going to say no. Obama looks too much like a Ptolemy.
Obama is the same tone as the dude in the middle. Obama would not be just another Greek to Herodotus.
quote:You have great imaginations.
Originally posted by iTrump:
quote:Herodotus would have probably been almost the same color as Obama, so he would not be considered black, but rather a Tawny Greek Brother.
Originally posted by the lioness,:
would Herodotus have considered this man to be black skinned?
yes or no please, no fancy stuff thanks
The Ancient Egyptians would likely have considered Obama a light skinned Nubian, that was the product of an Egyptian War Soldier and a Nubian Concubine!
quote:The Ptolemy wanted acceptance. So statues were made somewhat in local artform. .
Originally posted by kdolo:
What is that Artwork - the disk ??
and the Ptolemy ststues are artistic symbokism of what exactly ?
quote:lol that's still only a small collection. 90% of ancient Egyptian art all over Egypt is similar to these. This is why I laugh at euronuts claims.
Originally posted by Punos_Rey:
Love the pictures Sudaniyya most of them I haven't seen before
quote:Thanks, Punos_Rey.
Originally posted by Punos_Rey:
Love the pictures Sudaniyya most of them I haven't seen before
quote:It's all the more hilarious because these soldiers are clearly darker than Obama.
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:You have great imaginations.
Originally posted by iTrump:
quote:Herodotus would have probably been almost the same color as Obama, so he would not be considered black, but rather a Tawny Greek Brother.
Originally posted by the lioness,:
would Herodotus have considered this man to be black skinned?
yes or no please, no fancy stuff thanks
The Ancient Egyptians would likely have considered Obama a light skinned Nubian, that was the product of an Egyptian War Soldier and a Nubian Concubine!
Meet, spear "chucking" Egyptian soldiers.
quote:I showcased black Egyptians and they are blacker than Obama, and this seems to cause you annoyance because it runs counter to your campaign to align them with Jordanians and Palestinians instead of other black Africans. The least insulting position that you've ever argued (without evidence) is that the AE were "mixed".
Originally posted by the lioness,:
^^^ this guy makes a lot of sense, he says Obama is like the lighter side of Egyptians then spams the thread with 50 pages of dark Egyptians
quote:I don't have such a campaign.
Originally posted by sudaniya:
quote:I showcased black Egyptians and they are blacker than Obama, and this seems to cause you annoyance
Originally posted by the lioness,:
^^^ this guy makes a lot of sense, he says Obama is like the lighter side of Egyptians then spams the thread with 50 pages of dark Egyptians
because it runs counter to your campaign to align them with Jordanians and Palestinians instead of other black Africans. The least insulting position that you've ever argued (without evidence) is that the AE were "mixed".
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
^^^ this guy makes a lot of sense, he says Obama is like the lighter side of Egyptians then spams the thread with 50 pages of dark Egyptians
quote:--Schillaci MA, Irish JD, Wood CC. 2009
"Still, it appears that the process of state formation involved a large indigenous component. Outside influence and admixture with extraregional groups primarily occurred in Lower Egypt—perhaps during the later dynastic, but especially in Ptolmaic and Roman times (also Irish, 2006). No large-scale population replacement in the form of a foreign dynastic ‘race’ (Petrie, 1939) was indicated. Our results are generally consistent with those of Zakrzewski (2007). Using craniometric data in predynastic and early dynastic Egyptian samples, she also concluded that state formation was largely an indigenous process with some migration into the region evident. The sources of such migrants have not been identified; inclusion of additional regional and extraregional skeletal samples from various periods would be required for this purpose."
quote:this is why the issue is not resolved
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
^^^ this guy makes a lot of sense, he says Obama is like the lighter side of Egyptians then spams the thread with 50 pages of dark Egyptiansquote:--Schillaci MA, Irish JD, Wood CC. 2009
"Still, it appears that the process of state formation involved a large indigenous component. Outside influence and admixture with extraregional groups primarily occurred in Lower Egypt—perhaps during the later dynastic, but especially in Ptolmaic and Roman times (also Irish, 2006). No large-scale population replacement in the form of a foreign dynastic ‘race’ (Petrie, 1939) was indicated. Our results are generally consistent with those of Zakrzewski (2007). Using craniometric data in predynastic and early dynastic Egyptian samples, she also concluded that state formation was largely an indigenous process with some migration into the region evident. The sources of such migrants have not been identified; inclusion of additional regional and extraregional skeletal samples from various periods would be required for this purpose."
Further analysis of the population history of ancient Egyptians.
quote:What we have on the state formation, let's see?
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:this is why the issue is not resolved
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
[qb] ^^^ this guy makes a lot of sense, he says Obama is like the lighter side of Egyptians then spams the thread with 50 pages of dark Egyptiansquote:--Schillaci MA, Irish JD, Wood CC. 2009
"Still, it appears that the process of state formation involved a large indigenous component. Outside influence and admixture with extraregional groups primarily occurred in Lower Egypt—perhaps during the later dynastic, but especially in Ptolmaic and Roman times (also Irish, 2006). No large-scale population replacement in the form of a foreign dynastic ‘race’ (Petrie, 1939) was indicated. Our results are generally consistent with those of Zakrzewski (2007). Using craniometric data in predynastic and early dynastic Egyptian samples, she also concluded that state formation was largely an indigenous process with some migration into the region evident. The sources of such migrants have not been identified; inclusion of additional regional and extraregional skeletal samples from various periods would be required for this purpose."
Further analysis of the population history of ancient Egyptians.
" she also concluded that state formation was largely an indigenous process with some migration into the region evident. The sources of such migrants have not been identified; inclusion of additional regional and extraregional skeletal samples from various periods would be required for this purpose."
quote:http://www.yale.edu/egyptology/ae_theban.htm
"Many of the sites reveal evidence of important interactions between Nilotic and Saharan groups during the formative phases of the Egyptian Predynastic Period (e.g. Wadi el-Hôl, Rayayna, Nuq’ Menih, Kurkur Oasis). Other sites preserve important information regarding the use of the desert routes during the Protodynastic and Pharaonic Periods, particularly during periods of political and military turmoil in the Nile Valley (e.g. Gebel Tjauti, Wadi el-Hôl)."
quote:--Sonia R. Zakrzewski. (2007). Population Continuity or Population Change: Formation of the Ancient Egyptian State. AMERICAN JOURNAL OF PHYSICAL ANTHROPOLOGY 132:501-509)
"As a result of their facial prognathism, the Badarian sample has been described as forming a morphological cluster with Nubian, Tigrean, and other southern (or "Negroid") groups (Morant, 1935, 1937; Mukherjee et al., 1955; Nutter, 1958, Strouhal, 1971; Angel, 1972; Keita, 1990). Cranial nonmetric trait studies have found this group to be similar to other Egyptians, including much later material (Berry and Berry, 1967, 1972), but also to be significantly different from LPD material (Berry et al., 1967). Similarly, the study of dental nonmetric traits has suggested that the Badarian population is at the centroid of Egyptian dental samples (Irish, 2006), thereby suggesting similarity and hence continuity across Egyptian time periods. From the central location of the Badarian samples in Figure 2, the current study finds the Badarian to be relatively morphologically close to the centroid of all the Egyptian samples. The Badarian have been shown to exhibit greatest morphological similarity with the temporally successive EPD (Table 5). Finally, the biological distinctiveness of the Badarian from other Egyptian samples has also been demonstrated (Tables 6 and 7).
These results suggest that the EDyn do form a distinct morphological pattern. Their overlap with other Egyptian samples (in PC space, Fig. 2) suggests that although their morphology is distinctive, the pattern does overlap with the other time periods. These results therefore do not support the Petrie concept of a \Dynastic race" (Petrie, 1939; Derry, 1956). Instead, the results suggest that the Egyptian state was not the product of mass movement of populations into the Egyptian Nile region, but rather that it was the result of primarily indigenous development combined with prolonged small-scale migration, potentially from trade, military, or other contacts.
This evidence suggests that the process of state formation itself may have been mainly an indigenous process, but that it may have occurred in association with in-migration to the Abydos region of the Nile Valley. This potential in-migration may have occurred particularly during the EDyn and OK. A possible explanation is that the Egyptian state formed through increasing control of trade and raw materials, or due to military actions, potentially associated with the use of the Nile Valley as a corridor for prolonged small scale movements through the desert environment."
quote:And for convenience also called east Mediterranean.
Originally posted by DD'eDeN:
Geologically, Levantine is African, peninsular Arabia.
quote:The Arabian peninsula is not Africa geologically. It is on a separate tectonic plate.
Originally posted by DD'eDeN:
Geologically, Levantine is African, peninsular Arabia.
quote:lol smh
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:The Arabian peninsula is not Africa geologically. It is on a separate tectonic plate.
Originally posted by DD'eDeN:
Geologically, Levantine is African, peninsular Arabia.
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:lol smh
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:The Arabian peninsula is not Africa geologically. It is on a separate tectonic plate.
Originally posted by DD'eDeN:
Geologically, Levantine is African, peninsular Arabia.
The same people lived on bothsides of the Black Sea. You just can't help yourself. Geologically the peninsular Arabia is an African extension.
quote:Hehe, he was referring to the Red Sea.
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:lol smh
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:The Arabian peninsula is not Africa geologically. It is on a separate tectonic plate.
Originally posted by DD'eDeN:
Geologically, Levantine is African, peninsular Arabia.
The same people lived on bothsides of the Black Sea. You just can't help yourself. Geologically the peninsular Arabia is an African extension.
So the Arabian peninsula has something to do with the Black Sea?
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quote:Pardon me, I meant to say the Red Sea. But it should have been obvious by now. Then again, according to the national geographic page you've posted, the Arabian Peninsula has something to do with the Black Sea.
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:lol smh
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:The Arabian peninsula is not Africa geologically. It is on a separate tectonic plate.
Originally posted by DD'eDeN:
Geologically, Levantine is African, peninsular Arabia.
The same people lived on bothsides of the Black Sea. You just can't help yourself. Geologically the peninsular Arabia is an African extension.
So the http://www.imninalu.net/Myths_files/Arabia.jpgArabian peninsula has something to do with the Black Sea?
quote:Yes, thanks. Someone intelligent.
Originally posted by Snakepit1:
quote:Hehe, he was referring to the Red Sea.
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:lol smh
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:The Arabian peninsula is not Africa geologically. It is on a separate tectonic plate.
Originally posted by DD'eDeN:
Geologically, Levantine is African, peninsular Arabia.
The same people lived on bothsides of the Black Sea. You just can't help yourself. Geologically the peninsular Arabia is an African extension.
So the Arabian peninsula has something to do with the Black Sea?
quote:Why is it people create delusions about Obama?
Originally posted by mena7:
When we are looking at politic, history and watching the news we have to be open minded, freethinking and look at all the evidences it doesnt matter if it looks silly. According to Philosopher Nicolas Machiavelli politic is build on deception. It is naive to think mainstream journalists, historians and politicians are going to tell us the truth.
It is not my duty to trust any politicians and businessman in the world. I am an open minded person who looks at all the evidences. There is a ressemblance between Pres Barack Obama and Frank Marshall Davis.
quote:If you're aware that AE was African in all periods then why do you you constantly put such an emphasis on the small number of migrants that may have settled in Lower Egypt during the later dynastic -- long after all the features of Egyptian civilization and culture had been established by Africans!?
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:I don't have such a campaign.
Originally posted by sudaniya:
quote:I showcased black Egyptians and they are blacker than Obama, and this seems to cause you annoyance
Originally posted by the lioness,:
^^^ this guy makes a lot of sense, he says Obama is like the lighter side of Egyptians then spams the thread with 50 pages of dark Egyptians
because it runs counter to your campaign to align them with Jordanians and Palestinians instead of other black Africans. The least insulting position that you've ever argued (without evidence) is that the AE were "mixed".
Analysis of ancient Egyptian DNA is in it's infancy. Therefore I have an open mind. The ancient Egyptians of all periods were African. There is also a possibility that some of their ancestry could be Levantine. Or maybe not.
That is my position, further research needed
quote:If you're smart at Critical Thinking as you seem to be at Picture Spamming, you could ask yourself, some hard questions?
Originally posted by sudaniya:
quote:I showcased black Egyptians and they are blacker than Obama, and this seems to cause you annoyance because it runs counter to your campaign to align them with Jordanians and Palestinians instead of other black Africans. The least insulting position that you've ever argued (without evidence) is that the AE were "mixed".
Originally posted by the lioness,:
^^^ this guy makes a lot of sense, he says Obama is like the lighter side of Egyptians then spams the thread with 50 pages of dark Egyptians
quote:
Originally posted by iTrump:
quote:If you're smart at Critical Thinking as you seem to be at Picture Spamming, you could ask yourself, some hard questions?
Originally posted by sudaniya:
quote:I showcased black Egyptians and they are blacker than Obama, and this seems to cause you annoyance because it runs counter to your campaign to align them with Jordanians and Palestinians instead of other black Africans. The least insulting position that you've ever argued (without evidence) is that the AE were "mixed".
Originally posted by the lioness,:
^^^ this guy makes a lot of sense, he says Obama is like the lighter side of Egyptians then spams the thread with 50 pages of dark Egyptians
First, why would the Ancient Egyptians Select a Reddish Brown Color for their people, if they were actually Black Skinned?
Second, why would they even consider painting their women as very light yellowish and sometimes white, if they were Actually Black Skinned African Women?
Third, the very location of Ancient and Modern Egypt, makes it logical that the people would Never Be Exclusively Black Africans. The country is essentially "Jutting Out of the African Main Land and actually does straddle two Continents, two Major Seas, and Vast Deserts to its west and south. Not to mention the Nile River and its treacherous Cataracts that kept many Southern Black Africans Out of Egypt.
Also, Most Mummies have been found to be Not Black Africans! Ramses II was actually a natural Redhead and was described by an Independent French Scientific team as most likely was a light skinned person with wavy red hair.
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quote:
Originally posted by sudaniya:
The hair found on AE mummies is wavy and is indigenous to Africa.
quote:You seriously can't be this stupid.
Originally posted by iTrump:
You're Obviously a Very Confused Mixed-Up Black Sudanese Troll!
All Eurasians Are Former Egyptians. They All Left Africa through Ancient Ancient Egypt. Many came back to Egypt and North Africa, and Also East Africa. The Caucasoid Admixture that is found in high percentages in Sudan, Eritera, Somalia, Ethiopia, and Other East African nations is because of these Ancient Ancient Egyptians that came back.
Cairo was a major Slave Market during the Ottoman Empire and thus most of the 14% Black admixture in Modern Egypt is from this recent period.
Egyptians are about 65% Mediterranean and they're more Mediterranean than Greeks, Italians, Spanish, and Many Other Mediterranean Nations.
Case Closed: You Have Lost Big Time, Because Science Has Dealt Afro Idiots a Fatal Blow!!
quote:
Originally posted by sudaniya:
The hair found on AE mummies is wavy and is indigenous to Africa.
quote:Hmmm, sounds to me that Euronuts should fall back before rushing to play the slavery card.
COLUMBUS, Ohio – A new study suggests that a million or more European Christians were enslaved by Muslims in North Africa between 1530 and 1780 – a far greater number than had ever been estimated before.
In a new book, Robert Davis, professor of history at Ohio State University, developed a unique methodology to calculate the number of white Christians who were enslaved along Africa’s Barbary Coast, arriving at much higher slave population estimates than any previous studies had found.
Most other accounts of slavery along the Barbary coast didn’t try to estimate the number of slaves, or only looked at the number of slaves in particular cities, Davis said. Most previously estimated slave counts have thus tended to be in the thousands, or at most in the tens of thousands. Davis, by contrast, has calculated that between 1 million and 1.25 million European Christians were captured and forced to work in North Africa from the 16th to 18th centuries.
Davis’s new estimates appear in the book Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters: White Slavery in the Mediterranean, the Barbary Coast, and Italy, 1500-1800 (Palgrave Macmillan).
“Enslavement was a very real possibility for anyone who traveled in the Mediterranean, or who lived along the shores in places like Italy, France, Spain and Portugal, and even as far north as England and Iceland.”
“Much of what has been written gives the impression that there were not many slaves and minimizes the impact that slavery had on Europe,” Davis said. “Most accounts only look at slavery in one place, or only for a short period of time. But when you take a broader, longer view, the massive scope of this slavery and its powerful impact become clear.”
Davis said it is useful to compare this Mediterranean slavery to the Atlantic slave trade that brought black Africans to the Americas. Over the course of four centuries, the Atlantic slave trade was much larger – about 10 to 12 million black Africans were brought to the Americas. But from 1500 to 1650, when trans-Atlantic slaving was still in its infancy, more white Christian slaves were probably taken to Barbary than black African slaves to the Americas, according to Davis.
“One of the things that both the public and many scholars have tended to take as given is that slavery was always racial in nature – that only blacks have been slaves. But that is not true,” Davis said. “We cannot think of slavery as something that only white people did to black people.”
During the time period Davis studied, it was religion and ethnicity, as much as race, that determined who became slaves.
“Enslavement was a very real possibility for anyone who traveled in the Mediterranean, or who lived along the shores in places like Italy, France, Spain and Portugal, and even as far north as England and Iceland,” he said.
Pirates (called corsairs) from cities along the Barbary Coast in north Africa – cities such as Tunis and Algiers – would raid ships in the Mediterranean and Atlantic, as well as seaside villages to capture men, women and children. The impact of these attacks were devastating – France, England, and Spain each lost thousands of ships, and long stretches of the Spanish and Italian coasts were almost completely abandoned by their inhabitants. At its peak, the destruction and depopulation of some areas probably exceeded what European slavers would later inflict on the African interior.
Although hundreds of thousands of Christian slaves were taken from Mediterranean countries, Davis noted, the effects of Muslim slave raids was felt much further away: it appears, for example, that through most of the 17th century the English lost at least 400 sailors a year to the slavers.
Even Americans were not immune. For example, one American slave reported that 130 other American seamen had been enslaved by the Algerians in the Mediterranean and Atlantic just between 1785 and 1793.
Davis said the vast scope of slavery in North Africa has been ignored and minimized, in large part because it is on no one’s agenda to discuss what happened.
The enslavement of Europeans doesn’t fit the general theme of European world conquest and colonialism that is central to scholarship on the early modern era, he said. Many of the countries that were victims of slavery, such as France and Spain, would later conquer and colonize the areas of North Africa where their citizens were once held as slaves. Maybe because of this history, Western scholars have thought of the Europeans primarily as “evil colonialists” and not as the victims they sometimes were, Davis said.
Davis said another reason that Mediterranean slavery has been ignored or minimized has been that there have not been good estimates of the total number of people enslaved. People of the time – both Europeans and the Barbary Coast slave owners – did not keep detailed, trustworthy records of the number of slaves. In contrast, there are extensive records that document the number of Africans brought to the Americas as slaves.
So Davis developed a new methodology to come up with reasonable estimates of the number of slaves along the Barbary Coast. Davis found the best records available indicating how many slaves were at a particular location at a single time. He then estimated how many new slaves it would take to replace slaves as they died, escaped or were ransomed.
“The only way I could come up with hard numbers is to turn the whole problem upside down – figure out how many slaves they would have to capture to maintain a certain level,” he said. “It is not the best way to make population estimates, but it is the only way with the limited records available.”
Putting together such sources of attrition as deaths, escapes, ransomings, and conversions, Davis calculated that about one-fourth of slaves had to be replaced each year to keep the slave population stable, as it apparently was between 1580 and 1680. That meant about 8,500 new slaves had to be captured each year. Overall, this suggests nearly a million slaves would have been taken captive during this period. Using the same methodology, Davis has estimated as many as 475,000 additional slaves were taken in the previous and following centuries.
The result is that between 1530 and 1780 there were almost certainly 1 million and quite possibly as many as 1.25 million white, European Christians enslaved by the Muslims of the Barbary Coast.
Davis said his research into the treatment of these slaves suggests that, for most of them, their lives were every bit as difficult as that of slaves in America.
“As far as daily living conditions, the Mediterranean slaves certainly didn’t have it better,” he said.
While African slaves did grueling labor on sugar and cotton plantations in the Americas, European Christian slaves were often worked just as hard and as lethally – in quarries, in heavy construction, and above all rowing the corsair galleys themselves.
Davis said his findings suggest that this invisible slavery of European Christians deserves more attention from scholars.
“We have lost the sense of how large enslavement could loom for those who lived around the Mediterranean and the threat they were under,” he said. “Slaves were still slaves, whether they are black or white, and whether they suffered in America or North Africa.”
quote:There was a full genome analysis on modern Egyptians.
Originally posted by iTrump:
[QB] You're Obviously a Very Confused Mixed-Up Black Sudanese Troll!
All Eurasians Are Former Egyptians. They All Left Africa through Ancient Ancient Egypt. Many came back to Egypt and North Africa, and Also East Africa. The Caucasoid Admixture that is found in high percentages in Sudan, Eritera, Somalia, Ethiopia, and Other East African nations is because of these Ancient Ancient Egyptians that came back.
Cairo was a major Slave Market during the Ottoman Empire and thus most of the 14% Black admixture in Modern Egypt is from this recent period.
Egyptians are about 65% Mediterranean and they're more Mediterranean than Greeks, Italians, Spanish, and Many Other Mediterranean Nations.
Case Closed: You Have Lost Big Time, Because Science Has Dealt Afro Idiots a Fatal Blow!!
quote:The only people with the bean dimple
Originally posted by sudaniya:
Hematite (also called red ochre) has been used by the people of Sahara, Sahel and the Nile Valley to portray themselves for thousands of years before it was used in Dynastic Egypt. It was a symbolic color convention that even Sudanese used on our walls.
Here's a picture of a black man from Swaziland standing next to a Hematite mine and his skin tone matches the red ochre.
quote:Source:
"Karl Butzer has estimated that two areas of greatest population density in dyanstic times were between Luxor{Waset} and Aswan {Elephantine} at the first cataract,and from Medium at the fayum entrance northwards to the apex of the Delta.
In between was Middle Egypt,a geogrpahic buffer zone with a lower population density. It is worth bearing in mind that the total population of egypt at the time the Giza pyramids were built is estimated to have been 1.6 million,compared with 58 million in Ad 1995."
Mark Lehner, Page 7.
The Complete Pyramids
"It is nonetheless probable that settlements were far more dispersed than they were in Upper Egypt, that overall population density was significantly lower, and that the northernmost one-third of the Delta was ALMOST UNDERPOPULATED in Old Kingdom times. In effect, a considerable body of information can be marshalled to show that the Delta was UNDERDEVELOPED and that internal colonization continued for some three millennia, until the late Ptolemaic era."
quote:
Originally posted by sudaniya:
[QB] Punos_Rey
We know that modern Egyptians (are on average) 80% non African and the entrance of this non-African DNA has been documented to 1400 years ago -- when the Arabs conquered Egypt.
He has yet to provide evidence of a mass migration of Eurasians into Egypt prior to the Greek conquest. There is not a single academic that would agree with the laughable contention that Eurasians are descendants of the AE. Not one.
quote:
Originally posted by Punos_Rey:
The supposed mass backmigration of Eurasians into Africa occurred around 3,000 years ago according to the recently corrected Mota study. That's way late into the New Kingdom btw, getting into the Late Period.
quote:Lioness, what does science say?
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by sudaniya:
[QB] Punos_Rey
We know that modern Egyptians (are on average) 80% non African and the entrance of this non-African DNA has been documented to 1400 years ago -- when the Arabs conquered Egypt.
He has yet to provide evidence of a mass migration of Eurasians into Egypt prior to the Greek conquest. There is not a single academic that would agree with the laughable contention that Eurasians are descendants of the AE. Not one.quote:
Originally posted by Punos_Rey:
The supposed mass backmigration of Eurasians into Africa occurred around 3,000 years ago according to the recently corrected Mota study. That's way late into the New Kingdom btw, getting into the Late Period.
quote:Science Says Afro Idiots Are Stupid!
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:Lioness, what does science say?
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by sudaniya:
[QB] Punos_Rey
We know that modern Egyptians (are on average) 80% non African and the entrance of this non-African DNA has been documented to 1400 years ago -- when the Arabs conquered Egypt.
He has yet to provide evidence of a mass migration of Eurasians into Egypt prior to the Greek conquest. There is not a single academic that would agree with the laughable contention that Eurasians are descendants of the AE. Not one.quote:
Originally posted by Punos_Rey:
The supposed mass backmigration of Eurasians into Africa occurred around 3,000 years ago according to the recently corrected Mota study. That's way late into the New Kingdom btw, getting into the Late Period.