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What do you guys think causes homo-sexuality? And why are people so focused on trying to say it's genetic?
Psychologists, such as Freud, studied homosexuals extensively in hopes of coming up with an explanation for their "abnormal" behavior. All of the explanations that these people created linked homosexuality to experiences that homosexuals have while growing up. Generally speaking, people in the world of psychology believed that homosexuality could be explained by a person's environment. However, in the past four or five years, the subject of homosexuality has been creeping into the world of biology. Studies have been done recently that attempt to look at homosexuality in a scientific light in hopes of coming up with a genetic explanation for sexual preference. One of the first successful scientific studies that was done on homosexuality was reported on in 1993. The purpose of this study was to look at families in which there was an abnormally high occurrence of homosexuality. By extensively studying the family histories of these families, researchers hoped to find some clues pointing towards the genetic factors that affect homosexuality. That is exactly what happened. By looking at the family trees of gay males (For some reason, this study only focused on male homosexuality, but made the claim that their findings would be similar to the ones that would be found by looking at female homosexuality. As this paper will discuss later, this assumption that male and female homosexuality can easily be compared may be entirely inaccurate.) it seemed that the majority of homosexual occurrences were on the maternal side of the tree. From this information, researchers concluded that if in fact there was a "homosexual gene", it appeared to be passed down from mother to son. This means that heterosexual females are carriers of this gene, and when it is passed down to a male child, there is a chance that the child will be a homosexual. While this study did not come up with any hard core facts about the genetics of homosexuality, it showed that a connection very well could exist. Since this study did determine that the gene influencing homosexuality was carried by the mother, researchers participating in further studies knew that they could limit their search to the X chromosome, and that is exactly what they did (5).
One of the most influential studies on the genetics of homosexuality was done by Dean Hamer and his co-workers at the National Cancer Institute in Washington DC (1993). Hamer's research involved studying thirty-two pairs of brothers who were either "exclusively or mostly" homosexual. None of the sets of brothers were related. Of the thirty-two pairs, Hamer and his colleagues found that two-thirds of them (twenty-two of the sets of brothers) shared the same type of genetic material. This strongly supports the hypothesis that there is an existing gene that influences homosexuality (4). Hamer then looked closely at the DNA of these gay brothers to try and find the region of the X chromosome (since the earlier research suggested that the gene was passed down maternally) that most of the homosexual brothers shared. He discovered that homosexual brothers have a much higher likelihood of inheriting the same genetic sequence on the region of the X chromosome identified by Xq28, than heterosexual brothers of the same gay men. Keep in mind though, that this is just a region of the X chromosome, not a specific gene. Although researchers are hopeful, a single gene has not yet been identified ...
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I never knew about michael swifton's letter, but even though alot has, and may continue to come true, It's not like gays are a race or nation (physically, at least). A gay dies, and cannot produce a gay race. But thanks for raising my awareness on it.
What Box Member # 10819
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quote:I'll never understand , how a man could look at this
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It is so irrational why people would hang on to eradicating homosexuality it will make the churche and christians famous for another war between churches.
What Box Member # 10819
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NO I'm not an atheist, why do people associate atheism with oppenness
when most are simple followers of darwinism who are growing to hate christianity/religion/god more and more. Most are as simple as the Anglo non reading church folk.
mike rozier Member # 10852
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I just asked because you wanted to know if some people were geneticly homosexual....
and if you were not a atheist, you would know man was created in Gods image...and God isn't a homosexual...
you would also know the lesson of sodom and gamorah..
What Box Member # 10819
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god is sexual?
mike rozier Member # 10852
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did he put a penis on a man and vagina on a women?
how genetical is that??
What Box Member # 10819
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very, (and he created genetics )
Marcella Member # 10978
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He maybe made people straight but it's the same like some kids were born with some kind of diseases so some were born like a gays.Not a big deal.This is the process of human body that you can't influence.
herukhuti Member # 11484
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Why do people assume that God is a "He"?
This concept itself is quite gay I think and probably of Christian origin.
What Box Member # 10819
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That's why I asked ,God is sexual? (sarcasm)
But I usually refer to him (<see) as a he, although I don't think of God as having a gender.
According to the Bible, God is usually reffered to as a He, and his people Israel as a whole a she. The reasoning behind this makes sense, since Peoples or Nations are referred to as [she] female. God's people are his spiritual bride.
bibo1978 Member # 9287
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haven't this been discussed before
mike rozier Member # 10852
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quote:Originally posted by herukhuti: Why do people assume that God is a "He"?
This concept itself is quite gay I think and probably of Christian origin.
God made man in HIS image.... before eve
glad to have helped.
bibo1978 Member # 9287
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quote:Originally posted by mike rozier:
quote:Originally posted by herukhuti: Why do people assume that God is a "He"?
This concept itself is quite gay I think and probably of Christian origin.
God made man in HIS image.... before eve
glad to have helped.
simply because it is in appropriate to address gos as it, and there is no neutral in the English language
mike rozier Member # 10852
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quote:Originally posted by bibo1978:
quote:Originally posted by mike rozier:
quote:Originally posted by herukhuti: Why do people assume that God is a "He"?
This concept itself is quite gay I think and probably of Christian origin.
God made man in HIS image.... before eve
glad to have helped.
simply because it is in appropriate to address gos as it, and there is no neutral in the English language
the good ole days, back before metro sexuals..
Alive-(What Box) Member # 10819
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quote:Originally posted by herukhuti: Why do people assume that God is a "He"?
This concept itself is quite gay I think and probably of Christian origin.
LOL
With a name like Smuckers Member # 10289
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I don't think homosexuality is genetic, I've known and been friends with 100% openly gay men. Each had a story, there was either some trauma, or being exposed to homosexuality early in life thinking it was normal OR a feeling of rejection by the opposite sex, etc. It would be interesting to see some real scientific studies into the homosexual brain to see if it's 'wired' differently.
Barryrob Member # 14915
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If homosexuality was genetic a men (or women) could not change but they can, so this shows it is a choice that is made and a can be altered and stopped:-
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, ... nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, ... will inherit God’s kingdom.
11 And yet that is what some of YOU WERE. But YOU have been washed clean, but YOU have been sanctified, but YOU have been declared righteous in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God.
of_gold Member # 13418
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I think that there has to be a genetic factor. I relate this to myself. I am straight. I never chose to be straight. I just am. I don't see how I could nor do I have any desire to change that.
Do people who believe it is a choice believe this because they themselves were faced with this choice? Who here had to make a conscious decision to be gay or straight?
What I don't see the folks here addressing is that it is not the issue of who you have sex with but the issue of who you desire. So even if a person stops living the gay lifestyle that does not mean that they stop desiring someone of the same sex.
I'm not saying that I feel it is normal behavior. I don't. It goes against nature. Maybe it is a disorder of some kind.
Barryrob Member # 14915
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quote:Originally posted by of_gold: I think that there has to be a genetic factor. I relate this to myself. I am straight. I never chose to be straight. I just am. I don't see how I could nor do I have any desire to change that.
Do people who believe it is a choice believe this because they themselves were faced with this choice? Who here had to make a conscious decision to be gay or straight?
What I don't see the folks here addressing is that it is not the issue of who you have sex with but the issue of who you desire. So even if a person stops living the gay lifestyle that does not mean that they stop desiring someone of the same sex.
I'm not saying that I feel it is normal behavior. I don't. It goes against nature. Maybe it is a disorder of some kind.
How you feel is the right way to be:-
Romans 1:27 likewise even the males left the natural use of the female . . .
that is the way God made humans, anything other is Satanic and Demonic:-
Jude 6-7 And the angels [Demons] that did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place [took women to have sex with] he has reserved with eternal bonds under dense darkness for the judgment of the great day.
7 So too Sodom and Go·morrah [they all were Homosexuals] and the cities about them, after they in the same manner as the foregoing ones had committed fornication excessively and gone out after flesh for unnatural use, are placed before [us] as a [warning] example by undergoing the judicial punishment of everlasting fire.
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