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Mirta Member # 12422	posted are those considered to be haram by islam? and why?
sultan.org(In Makka not here ) Member # 10368	posted Firstly:Watching TV It depends on what you watch in TV. Can you tell me what would you watch? In general it depends on what you watch. If what you watch is Haram, then watching Tv is Haram. If what you watch is not Haram, It's not Haram. Secondly: Music you can find some details in this http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=5000&ln=eng I quote this Paragraph from the site quote: Some say that music and musical instruments have the effect of softening people’s hearts and creating gentle feelings. This is not true, because it provokes physical desires and whims. If it really did what they say, it would have softened the hearts of the musicians and made their attitude and behaviour better, but most of them, as we know, are astray and behave badly. Replace the music with Listening to Quran stepwise. And Allaah knows best. May Allaah bless and grant peace to His Messenger who made clear the path of the believers, and to his companions and those who follow them in truth until the Day of Judgement.
Mirta Member # 12422	posted thank u very much,God bless u for ur help. ill check th site u pasted inshallah.
Dalia* Member # 10593	posted quote: Originally posted by sultan.org(In Makka not here ): Some say that music and musical instruments have the effect of softening people’s hearts and creating gentle feelings. This is not true, because it provokes physical desires and whims. If it really did what they say, it would have softened the hearts of the musicians and made their attitude and behaviour better, but most of them, as we know, are astray and behave badly. Bach must be turning in his grave.
sultan.org(In Makka not here ) Member # 10368	posted We don't follow Bach. We follow the prophet of God.
Ayisha Member # 4713	posted If bach was there in Medina when the prophet arrived from Mecca, im sure he would be playing his best and everyone would have danced
Alia Member # 10438	posted is music is haram then why do birds sing?
Dalia* Member # 10593	posted quote: Originally posted by sultan.org(In Makka not here ): We don't follow Bach. We follow the prophet of God. Did I miss something? Since when is Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid the prophet of God?
sultan.org(In Makka not here ) Member # 10368	posted The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Among my ummah there will certainly be people who permit zinaa, silk, alcohol and musical instruments…” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari ta’leeqan, no. 5590; narrated as mawsool by al-Tabaraani and al-Bayhaqi. See al-Silsilah al-Saheehah by al-Albaani, 91).
Ayisha Member # 4713	posted quote: Originally posted by sultan.org(In Makka not here ): The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Among my ummah there will certainly be people who permit zinaa, silk, alcohol and musical instruments…” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari ta’leeqan, no. 5590; narrated as mawsool by al-Tabaraani and al-Bayhaqi. See al-Silsilah al-Saheehah by al-Albaani, 91). sorry but that is NOT from Quran, I follow GOD and His word. How do you KNOW the prophet said this?? by some MAN saying he heard it said by someone ELSE how many years after the prophet DIED?? The Quran is protected, the word of MAN is not. There was music, dancing and merriment in Medina when the prophet arrived from Mecca was there not???
Tream Lefty Member # 6244	posted So much for my Baby Einstein Mozart CDs.
sultan.org(In Makka not here ) Member # 10368	posted from Quran http://www.searchtruth.com/chapter_display.php?chapter=31&translator=5#6
Ayisha Member # 4713	posted quote: Originally posted by sultan.org(In Makka not here ): from Quran http://www.searchtruth.com/chapter_display.php?chapter=31&translator=5#6 Your verse: 6 And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e.music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, the Verses of the Quran) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire). The actual verse in 3 translations: 031.006 YUSUFALI: But there are, among men, those who purchase idle tales, without knowledge (or meaning), to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah and throw ridicule (on the Path): for such there will be a Humiliating Penalty. PICKTHAL: And of mankind is he who payeth for mere pastime of discourse, that he may mislead from Allah's way without knowledge, and maketh it the butt of mockery. For such there is a shameful doom. SHAKIR: And of men is he who takes instead frivolous discourse to lead astray from Allah's path without knowledge, and to take it for a mockery; these shall have an abasing chastisement. i dont think Allah put in the (ie, music, singing, etc) did He? that was added by someone who decided it meant singing and music, NOT what was originally was meant.
Dalia* Member # 10593	posted quote: Originally posted by Tream Lefty: So much for my Baby Einstein Mozart CDs. LOL ... they are excellent, but I remember one day I got to the point that I had been listening to "alla turca" like about 150 times. And although it's a lovely piece of music it was starting to drive me thoroughly insane.
Tream Lefty Member # 6244	posted quote: Originally posted by Dalia: quote: Originally posted by Tream Lefty: So much for my Baby Einstein Mozart CDs.* LOL ... they are excellent, but I remember one day I got to the point that I had been listening to "alla turca" like about 150 times. And although it's a lovely piece of music it was starting to drive me thoroughly insane. I can see that. I used to be able to play that on the piano....one of my favorite pieces....I think my family was just about ready to kill me by the time I figured it all out. Imagine not only listening to it a million times, but to an amateur pianist trying to pick her way through it.
Dalia* Member # 10593	posted quote: Originally posted by Tream Lefty: I can see that. I used to be able to play that on the piano....one of my favorite pieces... Wow! I think I didn't make it that far. I was quite good with Satie though. As soon as I'm really settled in one place I want to get a piano again.
Ayisha Member # 4713	posted I learnt to play 'chopsticks' when I was a kid, thats about all
Dalia* Member # 10593	posted quote: Originally posted by Ayisha: i dont think Allah put in the (ie, music, singing, etc) did He? that was added by someone who decided it meant singing and music, NOT what was originally was meant. They often do this on Islam-QA but at least they write "interpretation of the meaning" when quoting verses with additions in brackets ... some others don't. I find it a bit annoying when people do that, as if readers won't go and compare translations ... quote: Originally posted by Ayisha: SHAKIR: And of men is he who takes instead frivolous discourse to lead astray from Allah's path without knowledge, and to take it for a mockery; these shall have an abasing chastisement. Music – just like almost everything else – can be used in many different ways, negative as well as positive. And I don't think it's a coincidence that people all over the world throughout all times and of different religions / spiritual schools have used music in order to get closer to God. That can hardly be called "frivolous discourse", I'd say. And what about the countless Christians who have been using music in church for centuries – are they all "gone astray" and "behaving badly"?!? It is incomprehensible to me how someone who knows a bit about musical theory and harmony or has simply listened to a piece of great music can not see that music must be a reflection of the divine, how someone can be totally blind to the beauty and harmony in it and try to condemn it with such ugly, harsh words. Music is a universal language that everyone instinctively understands, children and infants love music tremendously and music is known to have an effect even on unborn babies that are still in the womb. The number of scientific studies proving the healing properties of music and sound as well as their positive influence on the brain are countless. Learning / playing an instrument does not only stimulate your brain in many ways, it also requires love, dedication, patience and discipline – things that can hardly be called objectionable, not even from the strictest religious viewpoint. So there are countless benefits to music – apart from the obvious, that it's enjoyable and can make our life richer – which are quite fascinating and can't just be ignored. And to me it's so crystal clear that all this wouldn't be possible without a higher power behind it; music – like nature, art, science etc. – is one of the things we are meant to cherish and explore. How people can make generalizing dismissive statements such as the one quoted earlier on based on their very limited view on the issue is completely beyond me. The sheikhs who find such ugly and condemning words have either consciously ignored many important aspects or they are not even aware of them. Both options do not bode very well for peope who pose as authorities on spiritual matters. My personal impression is that people like this are completely cut off of their emotions; their hearts and instincts and sense for right and wrong must be dead or buried. I would actually feel sorry for them if they wouldn't try to impose their harsh view on others.