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[QUOTE]Originally posted by homing pigeon: [QB] Religion -any religion- only tries to set guidelines for people to live with and be good. You might chose to ignore religion and yet have your own moral code which fulfills the role of those rules and regulations... instead of chosing one thing over another because it is halal; you'll be chosing it because it's the right thing to do, from your perspective. I often dont think of things in terms of halal and haram but in terms of right or wrong...and many muslims do the same. However, we all ahve our weaknesses and we cant be good all the time. We WILL do some haram stuff (at different rates)because it is human nature.One side of Islamic dogma that never gets advertised is the forgiveness of the merciful creator and how much leeway you are given to repent and atone for your errors. Of course, I know what makes it difficult for non Muslims to see that side of things when ,continuously, you hear about stoning and hands chopped off with reprentance to follow. But between this and that, there appears to be a big chunk of terra incognita (for non muslims...ummm,maybe for some muslims, too, I suppose :) ) [QUOTE]Originally posted by The Conditioned: So, why do some Muslims use Islam as a crutch for their abominable deeds? Because, from what I've been able to garner, Islam allows alot of leeway in regards to using violence to either defend itself, or Muslims from perceived aggression from outsiders.[/qb][/QUOTE]From a totally pragmatic point of view, this particular allowance for violence (defence) is legitimate. If any country is faced with agression , it will react with agression. My suggestion to the answer of your question is that as long as there have been blood thirsty beasts, they have searched for a cause to hide behind. In this case, it's Islam; no matter to them if their acts have NEVER serviced Islam in any way but have often done the opposite. It doesnt matter to them because they are convinced ,in a twisted way, that their acts are for Islam. Most good causes in history have had some lunatics do them the same disservice. [QUOTE]Originally posted by The Conditioned: And ofcourse, Islam has not undergone the level of reform that Christianity has in the West, nor been balanced by the opposing force that is [b]SECULARISM[/b]. [/qb][/QUOTE]That's a thorny issue! One thing that appears to be much less of a controversy among Muslims is that the religion cannot be subjected to the same reform that Christianity has been subjected to...because, this in effect means tampering with it and altering its content...which is exactly the problem that Islam sees with the way Christianity has evolved over the centuries. But that is, of course, what you are advocating :) to make it more "digestible"....deadlock, there, I'm afraid. :( [/QB][/QUOTE]
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