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[QUOTE]Originally posted by bibo1978: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by egyguy: [qb] I don't have to prove anything. It's the other way around. The claim has been for a few thousand years now that there is a God that is responsible for the creation and maintenance of this universe. I'm actually looking for proof. So, it's like, the joke is on you or something. Religious people have to prove that to me. One has to appreciate what billions of years can produce. Our own lives and perceptions are so limited, it's virtually impossible to put this into comprehendible perspective. Even advanced mathematics has its limits (not that they're not expanding). We're getting wiser about our universe everyday. The more we learn, the more we understand how minute we are. Some theories propose a countless number of parallel universes out there. Other universes with their own laws and dynamics. The big bang could have occurred a countless number of times producing a countless number of universes. To continue to think that we're the focal point of this universe/universes, is absurd. Again, I hope it's clear that I don't have to prove anything. I'm looking for proof. The fact that we "seem" to exist is no proof of intelligent creation. The fact that we're consciously aware of our being doesn't prove anything either. It only puts us in a state of inquiry and a never ending yearning to learn more. That instinct (if you want to call it that way) was satisfied initially by myths and legends due to our limited abilities. That should not be the case anymore. [/qb][/QUOTE]well first Egyguy we have to agree on one point, which is maths is not reality .. meaning that what is real is what we are at, defnitely I can't prove existance with math , that's simple and clear to any scientest as the sun and to any rational thinking it is just a b c. What thousand of years can do doesn't define what thousand of years is .. years can do nothin if simply it doesn't exist .. I hope this is clear to your 160 IQ mind ..time means nothin if it is not coupled with exitance actually time itself is not that independent axis "vitually" to the other axis .. Our conciousness is defined with our existance, it is our mutual interaction with the space (time and place), which makes history and define what is science to others, is there rules for universe, well sure there is but defining these rules "science" doesn't actually define universe it simply, defines some repetitive pattern that seems to follow some defined structure .. why .. where .. when .. again if we are not living in a homogenous univerese there would have never been time because actually there wouldn't be a definite structure to define the second or minute same with the distances .. (that's a mathematical fact) .. we seem to live in a homogenous universe .. and that's what make minutes and seconds exist. If you can't understand this tell me. Again I have gone with u in the imagination that we are living in a dream and I have asked a specific question can u please answer it ? Actually if our life is virtual then it is more prove that there is a programmer for all of our dreams .. I don't blieve this I think that what we are at is just reality I hope I am right but I might be .. bottom line .. and it was said before Does god exist? Yes, deal with it [/QB][/QUOTE]
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