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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ayisha: [QB] M*A*S*R*I [QUOTE]Yet you are not muslim..so why the trouble of discussing it in first place if you don't believe in Islam? [/QUOTE]SANDS [QUOTE]did NOT answer the part about her [b]NOT being a Muslim and discussing issues of Islaam in the first place.[/b] Here is the piece of advice that I always give regarding Dalia..[b]don't waste your time[/b] in endless and fruitless debates with her. You'll be chasing your tail like a dog i.e. just going around in circles. [/QUOTE]LML [QUOTE]I want to know too. Dalia what's the reply on this question? [/QUOTE]Here we have 3 self appointed 'Bouncers for Allah' who are sitting in His place in judgement. According to these 3 you cannot discuss Islam unless you are a Muslim. Even if you ARE a Muslim you can only discuss and agree with what they do, or you are declared a non-muslim by the 'Bouncers for Allah'. Sands, a self appointed 'Bouncer for Allah' and 'Trainee Prophet', has declared above you are not to 'waste your time' discussing Islam with Dalia as you will be 'going round in circles' which goes to prove she has valid points that they cannot answer. These self appointed 'Bouncers for Allah' seem to disregard the concept of 'Dawa' in Islam, which means discussing Islam WITH non-muslims and helping them to see the 'beauty, logic, fairness and truth' in Islam, in fact these self appointed 'Bouncers for Allah' dont actually SEE any beauty, logic, fairness in Islam, but they insist what they see is the Truth. If you DO happen to question books on Islam from sources of MEN, you are accused of hating Islam and attacking it and its members: LML [QUOTE]Now it turned into attack on Muslims.( again )[/QUOTE]LML, it turned into an attack on Dalia and Humanist, Humanist IS a Muslim but has been 'downgraded and thrown out' of Islam by the self appointed 'Bouncers of Allah' LML [QUOTE]It was simply diverted from "The Good Behavior" into "Islam is disrespectful towards women".[/QUOTE]Here is where you are wrong. You cannot understand the difference between critisism of A BOOK and critisism of Islam. The ctitisism was for the BOOK and the ideas of its AUTHOR. I have to point out this book was NOT QURAN. Dalia has continually said ISLAM IS [b]NOT[/b] DISRESPECTFUL TO WOMAN, and points out this author IS. This author is writing from his own perspective. Dalia ALWAYS uses QURAN in her discussions to try to point out these other books are NOT based on ISLAM. LML [QUOTE]It seems to me that people might be unwilling to let Loved One speak without being attacked just because she is a Muslim.[/QUOTE]This is clearly the lie that will spread the hate. No one has attacked LovedOne here but this incitement to hate is saying they have. Because Dalia has disagreed with some points in the BOOK that LovedOne quoted from, and NOT even any of the actual quotes LovedOne made, the self appointed 'Bouncer for Allah' has turned this into an attack on LovedOne because she is Muslim, which any thinking person with a brain can see is NOT what has happened. Sadly the 'Bouncers for Allah' do not HAVE a brain nor are they allowed to THINK. SANDS [QUOTE]Then lovedone comes and shares some very exciting news about her marriage and good advice as well, and what happens. They start to pounce on her. It is like you said. It seems that many here would rather hear bad news of a marriage breakup verse good positive news for a change.[/QUOTE]Now anyone not reading the full thread might even believe this. No one 'pounced' on LovedOne for sharing her ideas. Dalia gave her 'personal' opinion on a BOOK to which LovedOne replied, not in a very 'Islamic' manner, by twisting what Dalia had actually said and telling her it was 'her problem'. The lovely thread was already ruined by another self appointed 'Bouncer of Allah', Exiled, with this line: EXILED [QUOTE]Ladies you need to actually name and call members out if you are serious. The culprits should be called out because this beating around the bush does nothing at all. If you truly identify some members as being detrimental to the general well being of this forum then please publicly state who you deem is the culprit.[/QUOTE]This self appointed 'Bouncer of Allah' has also told me to 'leave Islam and Muslims alone' in another thread, declaring himself to be the guard of the 'gate' to God and the one who decides who is or is not Muslim, a job only Allah has. I will name and call out the 'culprits' in this hate campaign on this board, Exiled. LovingMyLife Somewhere In the Sands Exiled [/QB][/QUOTE]
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