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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ayisha: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by D_Oro: Well, I was going to use the story of Abraham sacrificing his son Isaac in the Bible verses Abraham sacrificing Ishmael in the Quran, but when I looked I was suprised to find that the Quran doesn't actually say that it was Ishmael that was sacrificed. So we can agree that Isaac was the son of Abraham that was to be sacrificed.[/QUOTE]No, Genesis says 'only' son, which at that time was Ishmael and shows it was before Isaac was born. genesis also confirms Hager was Abraham's 'wife', which we have discussed before, and that Ishmael was his son. [QUOTE]Here in the Old Testament it testifies of Jesus and says that he is an offering for sin. Does the Quran agree with this? [QUOTE] Isa 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were [our] faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Isa 53:4 ¶ Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. Isa 53:5 But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. Isa 53:7 ¶ He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. Isa 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. Isa 53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither [was any] deceit in his mouth. Isa 53:10 ¶ Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put [him] to grief: [b]when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin[/b] , he shall see [his] seed, he shall prolong [his] days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. [/QUOTE][/QUOTE]I don't see the name Jesus in there, could be talking about anyone, is Jesus' grave with the wicked? No Quran will not agree with this, our sins are our own and no man can bear the burden of another's sin. 17.15 Who receiveth guidance, receiveth it for his own benefit: who goeth astray doth so to his own loss: No bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another: nor would We visit with Our Wrath until We had sent an messenger (to give warning). Torah also agrees with this and God's word does not change. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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