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Part one, In order to answer some of the historical questions you mentioned we need to go back a bit. Lets look for a minute at europe aound 1500. What you have is a very static , rigid class structure with most of the wealth concentrated in a very few hands at the top. Society was divided into three distinct groups: nobility, peasant and clerics with very little upward movement. Around 1500 what we will call the 'froontier' opened up and this frontier transformed European society and created the modern world we live in. What we mean by 'frontier' is all of the areas that came to be dominated by Europeans. we will include parts of Asia in this as well as all of Africa, and North and South America. The opening of this 'frontier' changed Europe beyond all recognition. For one thing- it caused huge amounts of money to flow into europe from the outside world. This process broke up the static class system that existed prior to 1500. It resulted in the beginnings of capitalism, the creation of financing for public and private debt on a large scale, religious reformation, and the expansion of education. Without the opening of this 'frontier' the world we live in could not have been created.
loborules Member # 5457
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And then they created the United States Republic of Horembubistan
Horemheb Member # 3361
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Part two. Since the United States began as a British colony lets start there. The formation of the British empire is crucial to the development of the modern world. The British Empire has to be looked at in three distinct time frames:
1) 1500-1783 2) 1783-1914 3) Since 1914
the first British Empire, lets say from 1500-1783 included the unification of the British Isles and the development of capital within Britain. This is when we first see the 'idea' of Empire spring up within the British Isles. In the 1530's Henry VIII created a 'national' church - the Anglican church and first began to refer to his kingdom as an empire. During the reign of Liz I the English began to challenge the Spanish and the French for colonies and the vast wealth pouring out of the 'frontier.' Starting in the 17th century under the unpopular Stuart monarchy Britain had acquired a strip of colonies along the North American coast. Several things happened here that are very important: 1. 1642-1649 The English revolution 1688-89 The Glorious Revolution These resulted in the victory by Parliament over the monarchy. The King would still be powerful but he would not be absolute.
2. 1650's Oliver Cromwell would conqueror ireland and bring them into this first British Empire.
3. 1707 The Act of Union bringing England and Scotland together and forming what we call the UK.
loborules Member # 5457
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Horemheb: Part two. Since the United States began as a British colony lets start there. The formation of the British empire is crucial to the development of the modern world. The British Empire has to be looked at in three distinct time frames:
1) 1500-1783 2) 1783-1914 3) Since 1914
the first British Empire, lets say from 1500-1783 included the unification of the British Isles and the development of capital within Britain. This is when we first see the 'idea' of Empire spring up within the British Isles. In the 1530's Henry VIII created a 'national' church - the Anglican church and first began to refer to his kingdom as an empire. During the reign of Liz I the English began to challenge the Spanish and the French for colonies and the vast wealth pouring out of the 'frontier.' Starting in the 17th century under the unpopular Stuart monarchy Britain had acquired a strip of colonies along the North American coast. Several things happened here that are very important: 1. 1642-1649 The English revolution 1688-89 The Glorious Revolution These resulted in the victory by Parliament over the monarchy. The King would still be powerful but he would not be absolute.
2. 1650's Oliver Cromwell would conqueror ireland and bring them into this first British Empire.
3. 1707 The Act of Union bringing England and Scotland together and forming what we call the UK. [/QUOTE
Part II
Then the Republic of Horembubistan was born. Its just for WASP, the official mascot is the lemming, college football is played everyday, the opening of deer season IS a national holiday, the official state dish is venison, and my God can beat up your God, is the official motto. The official state symbol is Bullwinkle. But please, everyone looks the same, anyone who is different is deported, only missionary position is allowed, and must have the same beliefs and creeds. No freaks, or kooks, or gays need to apply for residency.
Horemheb Member # 3361
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Lobo, Put down the crack pipe...things will be OK. take a little walk outside and breathe some fresh air.
loborules Member # 5457
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: Lobo, Put down the crack pipe...things will be OK. take a little walk outside and breathe some fresh air.
I hope at least you chuckled, like I said before your so uptight, typical of a professor. Actually its not a crack pipe, its that BC bud ... LOL
Horemheb Member # 3361
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Part three. During the 18th century the British were able to develop low interest capital finance before other european nations were able to do so. They were also able to collect large amounts of tax revnue without a great deal of social upheval. Thi made it possible to create PRIVATE wealth with PUBLIC money. British planters were able to create huge profitable estates in the West Indesthat produced profits not only for themselves but also for their investors in London. An economic system we'll call Mercantilism sprang up to deal with the wealth of this new empire. The British also ahad a ready supply of sailors and during the 18th century built a military force that could sustain their new empire. as in the case of nations today----economic well being resulted in a strong military. By the middle of the 18th century the British could put 200,000 men under arms. As the empire grew, both in terms of economic and military power the GAP between the British and everyone else grew wider. God Save the Queen...part 4 on Monday.
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: Part three. During the 18th century the British were able to develop low interest capital finance before other european nations were able to do so. They were also able to collect large amounts of tax revnue without a great deal of social upheval. Thi made it possible to create PRIVATE wealth with PUBLIC money. British planters were able to create huge profitable estates in the West Indesthat produced profits not only for themselves but also for their investors in London. An economic system we'll call Mercantilism sprang up to deal with the wealth of this new empire. The British also ahad a ready supply of sailors and during the 18th century built a military force that could sustain their new empire. as in the case of nations today----economic well being resulted in a strong military. By the middle of the 18th century the British could put 200,000 men under arms. As the empire grew, both in terms of economic and military power the GAP between the British and everyone else grew wider. God Save the Queen...part 4 on Monday.
why dont u just tell us where ur finding ur information online about this or in what book
or do u have any original thoughts on this at all. a t least noors intelligence obviously comes from her mind -
loborules Member # 5457
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Ohhh goodie part IIII, can hardly wait. Hope you include the creation of Texas and Horembubistan. The American Civil War, why did we fight it?
And will the Bears, ever return to the Superbowl?
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nooralhaq Member # 5823
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lol...omg it's too early for all of this!! Let me drink some coffee...
Horemheb Member # 3361
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Part four, first, no, the Bears will not return to the Super Bowl as God really does not like them very much. Back to the development of the modern world... We have established that the opening of the new world, what we call the 'frontier' caused massive amouts of wealth to pour into late medieval Europe causing social changes and economic development that could not have occured otherwise. The printing press, the reformation and the development of capitalism also played major roles in bringing into formation early modern Europe. The British Empire and the development of low interest financing in the 18th century made it possible for wealth to be multiplied. All of these things bring us to the beginnings of the industrial revolution in the mid 18th century that led directly to where we all today. Without this process the modern world we know could not have occured. Imperialism, so broadly attacked today by utopians, was a vitally neccessity. Had the Europeans simply sailed by Africa and the Americas and left the massive amounts of wealth that fueled the modern era would not have been generated. Had this not happened the British empire would not have happened and progress as we know it would have been stilted. I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions as to what the world and the condition of humanity might be like now had all of these events not taken place. Man makes progress when he is 'aggressive.' When he acts in his own best interest the welfare of all is improved in the long run. The progress of humanity has been built by great imperial empires...Egypt, Mesopotamia, Greece, Rome, Britain, America. The beat goes on.
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