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Facing life in a so-called supermax prison, convicted Al Qaeda conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui says he lied in admitting involvement in the Sept. 11 plot, but a judge Monday rejected his attempt to withdraw his guilty plea. -----------
If you're looking for a reason why Zacarias Moussaoui suddenly testified to a version of the 9/11 plotline that sounds more like the Official story than even the official Whitewash Commission report, this video may have the answer.
In it, NBC news reporter Pete Williams lets slip that Moussaoui is wearing a "Stun belt" underneath his clothing controlled by US Marshals. MSNBC host Dan Abrams gets some more details on the stun belt.
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who knows why this creep says what he does. Lock him up and throw away the key. I like the life sentence, he can rot is a solitary cell.
With a name like Smuckers Member # 10289
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of course you don't care
Horemheb Member # 3361
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Why should i, hes a killer.
With a name like Smuckers Member # 10289
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sorry, I don't have crayons here to draw you a picture, if you don't see the obvious, God help your students
Horemheb Member # 3361
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Forgive us smuckers, we are all not as smart as you.
QueenBee Member # 9378
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That guy's a complete loser, in addition to being a threat to society and an insult to moslems everywhere. I wish they would let him out into the prison pop. a few times a week so he could make some "friends" in there.
Charm El Feikh? Member # 10243
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OK... spell it out...
i agree, lock him up and keep him barely alive.
you know they just gave the 7/7 guy life the other day... in the court room he taunted the families of the victims... why...
to get the death penalty.
thats what they want! if we keep locking them up for life they might not be so quick to do OR own up to something.
justice will be served one way or another.
Sonomod_me Member # 10522
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quote:Originally posted by QueenBee: That guy's a complete loser, in addition to being a threat to society and an insult to moslems everywhere. I wish they would let him out into the prison pop. a few times a week so he could make some "friends" in there.
And Zacarias Moussaoui also taunted the victims families and throughout the trial and he defended his terroristic activities vehemently.
He is bluffing now in hopes of creating a legal loophole or to gain sympathy with individuals who might someday or currently do support Al-Qauda minded terrorism.
He's trying to create a matyr out of himself since he wasn't given the death penalty.
I think UK and US jurist were smart not handing down the death penalty. These guys want the death penalty, they want matyrdom.
Personally his "roommate" the Mohamed Warsame guy was in a computer science course I took at Minneapolis Community Technical College. He basically couldn't stop discussing attacking America. Many Somali classmates made complaints to the school in hopes he would be expelled.
This dude also went around calling Somali women who were in college "b*tches" because of their so-called "western ways".
I hope they both rot in hell.
binhaden Member # 9900
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: Why should i, hes a killer.
Whom did he kill?
It really speaks volumes of the US' "war on terror" that the only person ever convicted of anything even remotely close to 9/11 is a mentally ill, two-bit al-Qaeda member-wannabe who's two loaves and an omelet short of a breakfast. Pitiful actually.
But keep the party going, someone is getting rich.
Sonomod_me Member # 10522
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quote:Originally posted by binhaden:
quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: Why should i, hes a killer.
Whom did he kill?
It really speaks volumes of the US' "war on terror" that the only person ever convicted of anything even remotely close to 9/11 is a mentally ill, two-bit al-Qaeda member-wannabe who's two loaves and an omelet short of a breakfast. Pitiful actually.
But keep the party going, someone is getting rich.
Well I must say its a shame that the only person convicted, yet, of terrorism is guilty only of "premediation" to commit terrorism
I always wondered why the CIA and US armed forces have yet to nab Bin Laden or any major operative.
binhaden Member # 9900
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quote:Originally posted by Sonomod_me: I always wondered why the CIA and US armed forces have yet to nab Bin Laden or any major operative.
Wonder no more. If the bad guy in a movie is caught or killed, what happens to the movie? Exactly. The Halliburton contracts and bilking of American taxpayers comes to an end.
Sonomod_me Member # 10522
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quote:Originally posted by binhaden:
quote:Originally posted by Sonomod_me: I always wondered why the CIA and US armed forces have yet to nab Bin Laden or any major operative.
Wonder no more. If the bad guy in a movie is caught or killed, what happens to the movie? Exactly. The Halliburton contracts and bilking of American taxpayers comes to an end.
Agreed. You ever seen that billboard in Vienna of Bin-Laden beefing up GWB back chamber?
Pretty much what I can see those two doing..... When they meet again.
binhaden Member # 9900
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Nah, I've not seen any Dubya billboards. I live in Texa, his home state.
Horemheb will come back and tell you're a sentimental lefty quack living in a Utopia. Careful.
Sonomod_me Member # 10522
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quote:Originally posted by binhaden: Nah, I've not seen any Dubya billboards. I live in Texa, his home state.
Horemheb will come back and tell you're a sentimental lefty quack living in a Utopia. Careful.
No actually I consider myself a moderate, but with extreme flashes of socialism. But democracy is best for the USA, but not everyone.
Why did you chose the username "binHaden"?
Djehuti Member # 6698
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What exactly is Hore whining about anyway?!
According to his philosophy, the strong should always take advantage of the weak or anyone in a strong position should take advantage of anyone in a weak position.
The terrorists knew that US security would never in a million years dream of such a kind of attack and so they took advantage of the opportunity. The terrorists had the element of surprise which therefore put them in a strong position and the unsuspecting US in a weak position. It matters not how many innocent lives they take. To the Jihadists, they were mere casualties in their holy war.
As Hore also says, war is profit. The total cost of damage in 9-11 was $95 billion so I assume that this was how much the lives lost were worth, including the terrorists.
binhaden Member # 9900
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^ Horemheb's understanding of US foreign policy is remarkable but his hatred of Arabs/Muslims makes no sense.
quote:Originally posted by Sonomod_me: Why did you chose the username "binHaden"?
I chose binhaden cause that's how I feel. I feel that I've been had. In fact, we've all been had by this war on terror. And contrary to what Horemheb thinks, I wouldn't even spit on Bin Laden if he were on fire.
mike rozier Member # 10852
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Suffer, to the max
Rest of days will be in the toughest jail
BY CAITLIN KELLY DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Twenty-three hours a day of solitary confinement.
One hour a day of exercise - alone in the small concrete-walled recreation yard.
Meals eaten alone in a cell.
Zacarias Moussaoui's new home is the Alcatraz of the Rockies, the nation's toughest prison, in the high desert of southern Colorado.
The complex in Florence, 90 miles south of Denver, is home to four federal prisons, including the Administrative Maximum, or ADMAX, prison. It is best known by its nickname, Supermax.
Inmates - a volatile mix of terrorists, murderers, drug dealers, street-gang leaders and mafiosi - have their wrists cuffed behind their backs on the rare occasions when they get to leave their cells, and are always escorted by at least two guards.
About the only place for them to go is the small concrete-walled recreation yard, where they can run laps or use fixed equipment.
Cells feature a sabotage-proof bed, a desk and a stool of poured concrete and a shower, with a spout in the ceiling and a drain in the floor.
A 12-inch black-and-white television in each cell pipes in closed-circuit classes on anger management and parenting. Literacy and religious services are played via video feed.
The combination of living in a concrete box with minimal human contact and no hope of getting out takes an awesome toll on inmates.
Even among the toughest criminals, the prison is notorious. Latin King gang leader Luis Felipe, sentenced to serve life plus 45 years there on murder charges in 1997, shouted at the federal judge, "You're killing me. You have sentenced me to die a little each day."
The prison is surrounded by scenic mountains, but inmates' only view from their 7-by-12-foot cells is a central courtyard.
All outgoing and incoming mail and telephone calls are monitored.
The 12-year-old, $60 million facility has an extremely high ratio of staff to inmates, with 303 employees and 399 prisoners, serving an average sentence of 23-1/2 years.
Keeping the prisoners isolated is key to security, as contact between them is "just not safe," said Krista Rear, the facility's public information officer.
No one has ever escaped from Supermax.
Sonomod_me Member # 10522
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quote:Originally posted by binhaden: ^ Horemheb's understanding of US foreign policy is remarkable but his hatred of Arabs/Muslims makes no sense.
quote:Originally posted by Sonomod_me: Why did you chose the username "binHaden"?
I chose binhaden cause that's how I feel. I feel that I've been had. In fact, we've all been had by this war on terror. And contrary to what Horemheb thinks, I wouldn't even spit on Bin Laden if he were on fire.
So you have no hard feelings towards Bin Laden?
QueenBee Member # 9378
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Mike, I don't know how much he will suffer under those conditions. Sure he wants to be a hero, a martyr, something. But a true fundamentalist (in the extreme religiosity meaning of the word) will construct around themselves walls, created in the psyche. As someone posted around here recently - from hadith? - the best of the moslems are those that are contantly thinking of death and getting ready for it. Being mindful of the swiftness with which our days will pass is common in many religious and meditative traditions. But the extremists will take hadith like this, and others about how the world is sick and filled with sin and jinn, and constuct an aloof stance in which they reject everything about the world, preferring to look forward to the next. All he has to do is hang around in there praying and wait for death. Would it be much different (for him not us) if he were outside the walls?
mike rozier Member # 10852
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oh well, he won't be planing anymore terrorist attacks..
I watched a show once on pbs, it was about this oxtagon prison...the would bring the prisoner in, spin him around, then put him is this cell,
he had no direction of north/east/south/west,
he never seen the sun again,
he never had human contact except for feeding...
everyone of the prisoners went nuts...
I think this charactor we are talking about won't fair well...he will be alone with his demons now.. with no human contact.
concernedforwomen Member # 10559
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Djehuti, I did not realize at first that Horemheb was like you said, but after he made the commit about the filipino woman going back to her country and not causing any trouble, then I see that he does not care about women. It's weird though, because if he does not care about women, then why does he want them to take over the Middle East and put men in burkas?
concernedforwomen Member # 10559
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I think he might not have been involved in the 9/11 plot, but if he was then he deserves what he gets. I don't know, though, the stun belt sounds suspicious. I do think that if he is not guilty, then he should be released. Justice should always be fair.
concernedforwomen Member # 10559
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Horemheb, You should not pick on anyone weaker than you. I hate people who pick on someone weaker than them, just for their own gain! You don't have a war just for finanicial profit, Horemheb! Wars should be avoided. Does your greed get the best of you? You know, I thought you cared about women, now I can see that you don't. If you don't care about women, then don't talk about the badness of arab men/muslims. You are lower than them! You should have seen the wrongness of the filipino girl being sexually harrassed. I can't believe what a heartless man you are! Binhaden was right about you.
binhaden Member # 9900
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quote:Originally posted by Sonomod_me: So you have no hard feelings towards Bin Laden?
I've more feelings for a road kill than I do for Bin Laden. For all we know, Bin Laden lives in a Manhattan apartment getting dialysis and watching HBO while smoking BC weed and getting around the clock, US taxpayer funded secret service protection. Who cares really? No one but those who would like to keep us afraid. Ironically, I'm more afraid of those who publicly vow to protect me (Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice) than I am of Al-Qaeda. Who would've thunk it?
concernedforwomen Member # 10559
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I think they should kill Bin Laden, Binhaden.
Horemheb Member # 3361
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Concernedwoman, If you read the thread on the man who got his tallywacker cut off you will find that I was on the side of the woman.
Secondly, I do not hate arabs/muslims. I do think they are going through a difficult transition in which many of their values are out of step with the direction the modern world is moving in. The militant wing of Islam has found itself in a conflict with the U.S./U.K and israel in which it is out gunned and over matched. Nothing lasts forever and all of this will pass as well. Twenty five years from now all of these problems will be solved one way or the other and the world will move on to some new crisis. If I could wave a magic wand and make them all millionaires in the middle east I would do it, but not at the expense of American interests.
With a name like Smuckers Member # 10289
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quote:Originally posted by binhaden:
quote:Originally posted by Sonomod_me: So you have no hard feelings towards Bin Laden?
I've more feelings for a road kill than I do for Bin Laden. For all we know, Bin Laden lives in a Manhattan apartment getting dialysis and watching HBO while smoking BC weed and getting around the clock, US taxpayer funded secret service protection. Who cares really? No one but those who would like to keep us afraid. Ironically, I'm more afraid of those who publicly vow to protect me (Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice) than I am of Al-Qaeda. Who would've thunk it?
Sonomod_me Member # 10522
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quote:Originally posted by binhaden:
quote:Originally posted by Sonomod_me: So you have no hard feelings towards Bin Laden?
I've more feelings for a road kill than I do for Bin Laden. For all we know, Bin Laden lives in a Manhattan apartment getting dialysis and watching HBO while smoking BC weed and getting around the clock, US taxpayer funded secret service protection. Who cares really? No one but those who would like to keep us afraid. Ironically, I'm more afraid of those who publicly vow to protect me (Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice) than I am of Al-Qaeda. Who would've thunk it?
Well I am equally afraid of both sides and hold them equally accountable.
Horemheb Member # 3361
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Bush/Cheney/Rumsfield/Rice
These are all true American heroes and great leaders. Their lives are examples we can show our children as the correct path to follow. In fact, I went to a function at the new George Bush high school the other day. A remarkable group of Americans, no doubt.
With a name like Smuckers Member # 10289
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: Bush/Cheney/Rumsfield/Rice
These are all true American heroes and great leaders. Their lives are examples we can show our children as the correct path to follow. In fact, I went to a function at the new George Bush high school the other day. A remarkable group of Americans, no doubt.
Horemheb Member # 3361
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Smuckers, Wouldn't it be great if you could send your children to George Bush high school? Their nickname is the bronchos....the Bush Bronchos, on FM3013, right behind West Oaks Mall.
binhaden Member # 9900
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Bush: An alcoholic and a failed student-cum-failed-business-man-cum-failed-president. No one could see that coming. LOL. Cheney: A crooked executive that still receives (American and Iraqi) blood money from Halliburton. Rumsfeld: A wicked chicken hawk that sends better men than him to war. Rice: A self-hating black woman who has sold her soul to the devil just to make it.
And all four are war criminals by any standard.
Horemheb Member # 3361
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God bless Halliburton for providing so many Americans with a great standard of living. Also for doing such a great job on the permanent bases they are building for our brave troops in Iraq.
binhaden Member # 9900
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^ That Halliburton is stiffing you while you shower it with blessings is an irony beyond description. George Orwell must be rolling over in his grave. Not even a rich corporate executive (who benefits from war) you are but probably an underpaid and unappreciated teacher. Keep singing their praise and dancing to their tune, old man. The joke is certainly on you.
Djehuti Member # 6698
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Let's face it, the fanatic is saying he "lied" just because he got scared once he realized the depth of his situation.
I mean not only does he have life in prison, but after what he did even his Muslim ass won't be spared from the hardcore criminals there!! LOL
The prison will be his palace and HE will be one of the 72 virgins that he dreamt of recieving!! LMAO
Charm El Feikh? Member # 10243
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mwahaahahaahaha!!!
there is just 1 thing ever so slightly wrong with your post.....
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