Why it is considered a threat to the non Muslim World?
Why it is not considered actually to place the Muslim World in order?
lovingspirit :) Member # 11660
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i would not go there.... leave caeser business to caeser and god business to god
AMR1 Member # 7651
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We do need an Islamic Vatican
lovingspirit :) Member # 11660
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no we dont
lovingspirit :) Member # 11660
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Religion always brought problems within a country when used by politician... religion is for our spiritual life... need not to be interefered with politics... so you want people to have their hand cut???? because they steal a loaf of bread??? do you want us to go backward??? i do not think so ,,, and if you need a vatican saudia arabia is considered as such so far... 3andak iran... we kaman el khartoom they got an islamic government when were are they now... down in the pits detested by every one... no no no it is not a good idea the vatican
AMR1 Member # 7651
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But as Muslims today with all the issues surrounding us, we are lost and leaderless.
Left.Side.Lying.State.Of.Mind Member # 6244
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quote:Originally posted by AMR1: But as Muslims today with all the issues surrounding us, we are lost and leaderless.
So is the West.
lovingspirit :) Member # 11660
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if we are leaderless that is not linked to our lack of sprititual life or coran'less what is happening now is the policy of farek tasod and believe me nor islam or christianity or judaism has anything to do with it positive or negative but we arabs are our own best enemies, mish keda, wella eeeeeeeh?
Chinderella angel TORMENTOR Member # 11953
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quote:Originally posted by lovingspirit : if we are leaderless that is not linked to our lack of sprititual life or coran'less what is happening now is the policy of farek tasod and believe me nor islam or christianity or judaism has anything to do with it positive or negative but we arabs are our own best enemies, mish keda, wella eeeeeeeh?
LOL...... you speak arabic? (im sure it's a dumb question)
lovingspirit :) Member # 11660
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pray all night to gain laylt alqadr Member # 11915
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quote:Originally posted by AMR1: What is wrong with having one?
Why it is considered a threat to the non Muslim World?
Why it is not considered actually to place the Muslim World in order?
وقد مكروا مكرهم و عند الله مكرهم و ان كان مكرهم لتزول منه الجبال
lovingspirit :) Member # 11660
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owed wa law en kont makeran we kaan men makri tazoolo el gebaal, walakena, lel asafi, enani lasto bemakeron, otherwise, kont radeita 3alaika ya akhi fi 7obba allah
ahaza regson men 3amalol shaytan
Yonis Member # 7684
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quote:Unfortunatly all the Middle East region is 3rd world
You also consider Dubai a 3rd world country?
Everyone's_a_Pascha Member # 12077
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Doesn't Sengal have an Sharia based government?
But then Sengal Petro companies do what GWB tells them to do so the Sharia system isn't challenged nor brought up.
If the MB boasted and propagandad for a Sharia base system without refering to OPEC and weilding Middle East oil as a political bargaining chip then the MB would be in power within the week.
yazid904 Member # 7708
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There can be only one!
Actually, the concept of Salafia in conjunction with a Muslim Caliphat is a dangerous one when compared to a democratic/economic world order!
snake poison Member # 10674
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quote:Originally posted by Yonis:
quote:Unfortunatly all the Middle East region is 3rd world
You also consider Dubai a 3rd world country?
3rd world isn't only about economy, other variables are considered as well like education,political freedom, human rights etc....
salah Member # 11739
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hahaaaa . bush always says we want the middle east to be a demcrate place but he himself is not a democratic man
Everyone's_a_Pascha Member # 12077
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quote:Originally posted by snake poison:
quote:Originally posted by Yonis:
quote:Unfortunatly all the Middle East region is 3rd world
You also consider Dubai a 3rd world country?
3rd world isn't only about economy, other variables are considered as well like education,political freedom, human rights etc....
And Dubai is one city in the United Arab Emirates, and its infested with foreigners.
Truth of the matter is Arab governments who aren't recieving direct foreign aid from the USA or Europe are doing an excellent job hiding the fact that their countries are majority impoverished. And these people will stay impoverished no matter how much Oil per barrell costs and how much Oil barrells are sold.
Why?
Because impoverished citizens are easier to control. And the old adage of instilling your trust in Muslim leaders out of respect for God. Its a Quranic verse somewhere and I have read it many times in anthropological books but have yet to make a note of it.
Those two factors will keep Arab poverty out of the media spot light, in addition to the fact that Arabs abroad in the west don't really care how impoverished their fellow Arabs are. To admit to poverty on a wide scale in their home nations would mean great shame to the Arab abroad, or the fact that they personally blame the Arab poor for being poor or that it is "fate". Either way I have yet to meet an Arab who seems to give a rats arse about poor people in general.
ChinderallaAngelTormentor CAT Member # 11953
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quote:Originally posted by salah: hahaaaa . bush always says we want the middle east to be a demcrate place but he himself is not a democratic man
And you are a wise man
AMR1 Member # 7651
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Salaam
Why the Caliphate is called a 7th century system and the Senate system is called modern.
The First Senate in Rome was 2000 years ago. Some developed it to what we see for example in the USA.
Why can't we develop the institution of the Caliphate to a 21 st century institution?
Regards,
Intellegypt Member # 12355
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We don't need an Islamic state, we need to reform ourselvs from within first. You can't make an Islamic state or caliphate right now, with all this corruption, especially corruption within the religious clerky in Egypt. Also, Muslim Caliphate will not be like that of the four first Caliphates, even 3 of them were killed cause of "fetna". Don't u think we don't have more Fetna today than at their days?
hibbah Member # 12156
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um, because of money.
the west embraces capitalism, the west, especially the u.s. wants to make sure that they have a secure place in the world, and that this world is pro-capitalism, pro- western economy, pro-globalization.
ive always felt that alot of islamic values would be deemed "socialist" by capitalist thinkers. i'm not alone in this, herman melville - the writer- wrote about how he found the u.s. to be hypocritical, as at that time, it claimed to be a christian country, but that it embraced capitalism at the same time.
im not saying you cant be a muslim and want to be pro-active and make money- but why do you republicans and libertarians FREAK out at ideas of welfare?they dont want to share any of their money, they dont want to help those in need- it goes against the ideology.
maybe we dont need a khalifa, but we do need some type of unity among muslim nations. unfortunately, all i see are the arab countries creating groups among themselves and excluding the rest of the muslim world.
Graf_Genn Member # 11802
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Egypt over the ages has embraced and absorbed peoples of a myriad of cultures and religions. We should not be governed by only one of them because that fundamentally threatens the rights of people who do not belong to that particular religion. That is why people (in the West AND throughout the world) feel threatened by the idea of a caliphate. All subjects contrary to what a given mufti favors will be forbidden. Have we forgotten the Taliban already?
In essence, there doesn't seem to be a difference between a caliphate and a dictatorship. The people have no method of self determination what-so-ever. That single fact makes it extremely unattractive.
Besides, even in the medieval Caliphates, there was the issue that Mohammed is the only messenger of Islam; religiously speaking, the following leaders were not truly fit to determine the direction of Islam, as that was sealed with Mohammed and the Qur'an.
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