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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bogle: [QB] [QUOTE] I'd rather be a Jewish apologist [/QUOTE]Glad to see you're finally acknowledging where your sympathies lie. [QUOTE] There is a reason why the paper hasn't been completely released and that is to avoid review.[/QUOTE]LOL you have no idea what your talking about again do you? [QUOTE] Where is the evidence that Israel was involved in the planning? [/QUOTE]Again, look up top. Top Israeli officials (the PM) and their agents/defenders in the US were the ones who pushed for war. [QUOTE] Clean Start, isn't evidence. [/QUOTE]Its one of the [b]many[/b] sources of evidence. Where yours... oopps, sorry, you have none, save your [URL=http://www.voltairenet.org/article143519.html]Zionist apologist Chomsky.[/URL] [QUOTE] That is WHY Israel reacted to spontaneously against the war[/QUOTE]LOL what an idiot, still beating this dead horse when he got debunk this rubbish. [QUOTE] You bank on this, even though other officials have said the reverse[/QUOTE]LOL I "bank" on this. Oh yeh, thats why my posts are fill with just that quote. [QUOTE] found no evidence that Israel's intelligence services [b]intentionally misled[/b][/QUOTE]Do you know how dumb and apologetic you sound with this obvious BS? Thats like republicans saying Bush did not "intentionally" mislead America into war. Yeh right, the road to hell is paved with [b]good intentions.[/b] LOL [QUOTE] They also noted that Israeli assessments had not played any significant role in the decision by the United States and Britain to go to war in Iraq.[/QUOTE]Another straw Jew apologist. Whereas one can reasonably argue, and experts have, that "Israeli assessments" certainly [i]contributed[/i] to the war drums however it was not central as others - like their neocon backers in Washington - played an even more significant role. Again see the quotes above thats got you scraping for alternative revisionist history. LOL Sorry, this "report", like your endless list of debunked trash above, does nothing for your argument. [b]Just like your parading of Kristol's propaganda outlet as an "American doctrine" (LOL) all your sources are just a pathetic, failed, attempt at diverting attention from Israel. You shameless apologist.[/b] [QUOTE] we have modern sources from Asian Times AND Forward suggesting that Israel, the state itself, did not want the war to move forward.[/QUOTE]Nice try, we have Haarez and others saying otherwise. [QUOTE] Israel began to agree with US after being told that Iran was next.[/QUOTE]Again, nice try at revisionist history but Bush's war aims on Iraq [b]cannot be seen outside the context of his extreme pro-Zionism.[/b] That is, neocons finally had their man in Washington to do what they wanted all along. [QUOTE] It's quite ironic that the lobby hasn't been able to push Iran[/QUOTE]LOL Again, nice try, the lobby got sanctions (that oil lobby opposed) and round clock demonization of the country. The only reason US is not at war with Iran yet is because catastrophic failure and cost of Iraq war (and now Afghan) which has so disgraced the neoconservatives and their whole restructuring of ME agenda. [QUOTE] When the hell did I suggest that? [/QUOTE]LOL you try to deny yet in the next sentence you go on to suggest such a thing, "The American elite is a largely Anglo-based one. It is a white-based one, with an Anglo core, due to its dominant culture." And here also "My primary position was regarding to the fact the white people rule America, not the Jews." Isnt your argument that it was [b]not[/b] the Lobby, but Big oil and other US economic and military interests ("Anglo core") – who were the ones behind this war? Or are you now changing your tune since [b]EVEN AT THIS STAGE you have yet to back up your argument.[/b] Poor you. All your posts are nothing but hot air "bob". As I said disagreements [i]within[/i] the lobby on [i]how[/i] to remove the Baathists or [i]what[/i] a post-Saddam Iraq should look like is irrelevant. Whether sanctions, blockage, covert operations or military strike, they all agreed Saddam's regime should be taken out. None of these aggressive policies advance US economic interests (like Big Oil) in the region, [b]you have yet to show this.[/b] On the other hand the reality undermines your entire argument: Big oil wanted normalized relations or the status quo, i.e. Baathists in power. The only thing you have managed to prove is Mearsheimer and Walt's thesis, that is, the Israel Lobby is a [b]loose coalition[/b] of pro-Israeli supporters, who despite disagreements, view Israel's security as their [b]primary[/b] goal. You are such a simpleton you cant realize that their talk of "American interests" only comes in [b]as a cover[/b], as a way of getting support for their agenda in Washington. So "bob", the resident simpleton, they all aren't going to agree on how to deal with [b]Israel's enemies[/b] but there is one thing that unites them all and that's the use of America, in varying degrees, as a cover for their agenda. The Project for American Century is one such example. They even had you fooled it was an "American doctrine". LOL And if "Clean Break" is a proposal that "clearly suggests an operation [b]independent[/b] of the US" why did they propose propping up Jordan "through influence in the [b]U.S.[/b] business community"? You dumb@ss. And as for Israel being against balkanization, that too is misleading. See The Zionist Plan for the Middle East Translated and edited by Israel Shahak. [QUOTE]Let's present our pictures, white kid. We'll PM each other our emails[/QUOTE]You little Jew faggot. LOL [/QB][/QUOTE]
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