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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bogle: [QB] [QUOTE] The aim was to defeat hitler's regime and his thugs [/QUOTE]Then genius, how else would you [i]prevent[/i] another Nazi regime – which was [i]elected and popular[/i] – from coming to power again if not by occupation and restructuring the country in your interests? Which is exactly what America did. [QUOTE] Show me where Germans had to be re-shaped, according to your thinking, that they wouldn't have done it on their own once hitler and his thugs were out of power. [/QUOTE]Well for one, he was [i]elected[/i] and popular, even among other Europeans, don't let me go for flattering comments about him by world figures including Churchill, we all know your WW2 knowledge is shaky. LOL! [QUOTE]Germans would still have pursued an aggressive stance[/QUOTE][b]Strawman as the aggressors in WW2 weren't the Germans, no evidence they wanted to "conquer" the world as allied propaganda says, a local conflict was turned into a global crisis for political reasons. Sorry, your friends did not die for "democracy" and "world peace" but for a restructuring of European imperial interests.[/b] [QUOTE] I don't believe George Bush did it either,[/QUOTE]Of course you cannot believe that, how else would you justify your "sacrifice" in WW2 (the "good war") and blind faith in America as the "good guy" in global conflicts. Waking up does present an existential crisis for negros like you, so you have to keep up the [i]bad faith[/i] to avoid angst. [QUOTE] Civilian deaths are the direct result of faulty intelligence provided by some Taliban and maybe even Al-Qaeda fighters, a lot of whom hide behind their womens' skirt to win a battle. [/QUOTE]Again another example of bad faith! Even if we entertain your stupidity Grumman this means that your master's advanced civilization with its high-tech military and intelligence units are in reality nothing but a bunch of gullible dumbassess! LOL But I know this is just another of your bad faith, you know damn well civilian deaths are result of Americans not giving a dam about densely populated areas and infrastructure so long as they get "the guy". Hundreds of thousands cannot be just a result of "faulty" intelligence Grumman even you are not that stupid, then again... [QUOTE] And I'm noticing you continue to confuse total war against the taliban or the insurgents in Iraq as total war against the civilian population. Do you think we are still talking about Germany here?[/QUOTE]Then genius, if, as you say, the problem is just a small minority of "thugs" not the civilian population [b]then your option of a total war [i]a la[/i] Dresden and Tokyo looks even more insane!!! LOL!!![/b] Why refer to WW2-style scorch earth policy if that's not what you propose in this conflict? Is it because you don't know which way to turn to gain the upper hand in this argument? Your emotional, simplistic, bigoted and contradictory mumbo jumbo "analysis" of the situation only demonstrates why you did not move from simple lower rank soldier in the military Grumman. Fact is, following the example set by the Russians, for the better part of eight years the America democracy waged a "total war" in Afghanistan longer than WW2 destroying Taliban political infrastructure, Afghan schools, mosques and hundreds of thousands of civilians [b]yet it still has not brought "victory".[/b] So your argument about an absence of a "total war" campaign as being the reason for failure is inaccurate. Yes total war ''punishes'' people but that doesn't mean they will accept occupation when you safely fly back to base. The human spirit is resilient especially when fighting to defend home, if Vietnam has not taught you Americans that then there is no hope for you. [QUOTE] You should be alerted by now that ''strictly military'' and how it should be used to accomplish something is the issue,[/QUOTE]You may not be paying attention but even military analysts talk about the importance of a [b]political solution [/b] to the Afghan problem, so your dichotomy between military and politics is false as is your insistence that total war automatically leads to victory. I don't know of any analyst, whether on the ground or from some air conditioned news room in America, that thinks the problem in Afghanistan is simply a "minority" of religious crazies. Or that the reason total victory cannot be achieved is due to the fact that men are hiding behind woman's skirts and mosques. This sort of thinking is as a result of your brain on Faux News Grumman. It has nothing to do with some "special insight" due to military training. Fact is they all, politicians and military, talk about a [b]political solution[/b] as an imperative to resolving the conflict. You're so blinded your lower rank military miseducation you don't even take time to [b]LISTEN[/b] to the discussions do you? You think they are all educated liberals eh? LOL This only underscores my point that uneducated military lower ranks do not understand complex issues, especially in far of regions. [QUOTE]...and the indiscriminate car-bombing and murders by Al-Qaeda and other Sunnis,[/QUOTE]LOL So they do "indiscriminate killings" but US does not!? You are really a sucker for America Grummna! WWHAHAHHA [QUOTE] had nothing to do with the Sunnis accepting money from the U.S. to help fight the ''others''?[/QUOTE]US paid off [i]the bombers[/i] stupid. Those others were al queda who made up small fraction of insurgency. Effectively US hired more guns on its side to keep stability that [b]its awesome fire power could not do!!!![/b] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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