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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MelaninKing: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Grumman: [qb] Melaninking: Rules: ''It's no secret that America has always had two sets of rules. One for whites/Jews, and another set for people of color. [b]Which set of these rules did you have in mind?[/b] Neither of the two groups. If one runs afoul of the ''rules'' then it doesn't matter the color. [b]''Today, US law, is no longer based on Common law, but Laws based on Commercial Code, which is Corporate Law. This means that a Man-Made thing such as a Corporation can be greater than Man.''[/b] I believe that's the issue. Don't transgress and you won't get into any trouble. [b]''For a [Christian] nation to take this route is a severe contradiction. When you step into a court room, there will be a flag displayed there. It looks like an American flag, but on careful inspection something is amiss. Aren't the maritime colors displayed on the flag; Red, White, Blue, and Gold? What is wrong with this picture?''[/b] How can anything be wrong with this picture when you said corporations run the outfit? And America as a Christian nation? Some scholars say yes, others no; they both lay claim to some founders' comments, or so I've read in the newspaper. Which scholar wins this one? [b]''Are you implying that people of color should avoid doing business nationally or internationally?[/b] Not at all. But they are expected to play by the rules. If they are naive then they won't get anywhere. [b]''To travel, one needs a passport. Passports are micro chipped.''[/b] If humans didn't commit mayhem there would be no need for microchips. But that is an unrealistic expectation isn't it. Matter of fact it's naive isn't it. [b]''Stay out of the way? Is that your idea of freedom, or is it freedom with limits?''[/b] All freedom has limits placed by those who set the rules. If you can be part of the rules game then play. If not, well, then, don't play. [b]''We're back to the issue of Freedom again. Isn't citizen surveillance one of the injustices the USA accused communist Russia, China, and Cuba of?''[/b] You will recall the U.S. thinks everyone should have that freedom that resides in ''everyone's''? bosom. Other countries beg to differ. So yes the U.S. accused those countries of injustices for personal gain. It may have had something to do with money, i.e., I wish these guys, Russia in particular would let their citizens alone because it costs too much money for the U.S. to stay ahead in the arms race. [b]''Isn't this a blatant violation of the US constitution, and the Bill Of Rights?''[/b] As you know it may have something to do with the interested scholars' interpretation. [b]Traffic monitoring ''Since this implementation is funded by tax payer dollars while the proceeds from violations is given to private concerns such as Lockheed Martin, isn't this a violation of the constitution which states that no government local or national may profit from it's citizens?''[/b] I'm hard pressed to accept by definition all proceeds go to Lockheed Martin. If Lockheed Martin made or leased the monitoring devices then yes they should expect payment of some kind from the local government who requested them. What percentage of the proceeds from violations obviously will be determined between the two parties. [b]''It's very apparent, especially today where cities and states are revenue deficient that these traffic monitor violations and fines have been kicked up in overtime to generate additional revenue for Cities and States using border line legal tactics which would have been thrown out of court prior to their implementation.''[/b] We had a similar issue with the devices in my city. The local courts sided with the city saying it violated no constitutional rights to place the devices in a school zone where motorists routinely ignore the 20 mph signs and in particular the flashing lights. Here's a question for you. Outside a school zone, is it unconstitutional to place a speed monitoring device in areas where the speed limit is clearly marked? Does it matter if the city is experiencing economic difficulties? If the city *isn't* experiencing dollar problems does it violate someone's rights if the city posts a monitoring device? [/qb][/QUOTE]Grumman Let's be clear that when we are discussing "rules" what we are really discussing are "Laws". What is the purpose of making Laws? Of course, Laws are meant to protect the people. When does a law become invalid? A law becomes invalid when it fails to protect citizens, and even proves to be harmful to same. To obey laws which fail to protect, or have unquestionably proven to be harmful, is an abuse of the system, as well as a failure of it's citizens to exercise their sovereign rights. This is exactly when a country becomes a captive environment, versus The Land Of The Free. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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