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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TRPL_DRKNSS: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [IMG]https://allthatsinteresting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/jericho-face-skull.jpg[/IMG] Plastered Natufian Jericho skull 9,600 BC, at right British Museum reconstruction of it [/qb][/QUOTE]I did use the Jericho skull as a reference‚ in the beginning: [IMG]https://i.ibb.co/f9cVFPm/521-2150-1-PB.jpg[/IMG] but in the end I went with the skull below (from [URL=https://www.researchgate.net/publication/291945317_Ancestors_and_inheritors_A_bio-cultural_perspective_of_the_transition_to_agro-pastoralism_in_the_Southern_Levant?enrichId=rgreq-5b2f303ca9cec539980fa4e887056cd0-XXX&enrichSource=Y292ZXJQYWdlOzI5MTk0NTMxNztBUzo5OTIxOTc1Mjg3ODA4MDRAMTYxMzU2OTczMzYxMg%3D%3D&el=1_x_2&_esc=publicationCoverPdf]Patricia Smith's article[/URL]): [IMG]https://i.ibb.co/P1H2HVc/2007-Smith-Horwitz-Ancient-Health.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Archeopteryx: [qb] Did you use any actual skull measurements to your picture? Did you compute things like tissue deep and similar? Seems the people at Ancestry whisperer did some computing of tissue deep after Gerasimov and others. Which scientific methodology did you use? [QUOTE] After some time in GAN and [i]PHOTOSHOP[/i] we're left with a good reconstruction.[/QUOTE][/qb][/QUOTE]My bro‚ all this gobbledygook about Soviet mathematical formulae that can predict soft tissue is laughable in my opinion‚ and designed to play down the fact that they use Photoshop and some AI software (have you seen the quality of AI art or AI colourisation???) At least the [URL=https://www.kenniskennis.com/about/]Kennis brothers[/URL] who do actual clay modelling have the integrity to admit that they "only looked at the pictures in the books..." and "made clay models of drawings or we copied drawings of fossils and skulls." They don't pretend to be guided by obscure mathematical formulae. They use their own observation (which is what science is about) and artistic judgment. I try to read the descriptions of specialists in the field‚ and look at photos of crania‚ and match them to my reconstructions: [IMG]https://i.ibb.co/xDXcL4g/4-pics.png[/IMG] Pardon the aggressive language‚ it is not personal at all. [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [IMG]https://images2.imgbox.com/ac/e8/yZyigQw0_o.png[/IMG] Basically Haynes depiction resembles a North Western European. His skin is quite light for a North African and Edwin's depiction resembling closely, a Mexican Arab I doubt there was any genetic information on hair type. I think the Philip Edwin version has reduced the lips size slightly and removed most of the lower jaw protruding underbite in the unfinished model. The way the nose points down like that, I'm not sure they can predict that from a skull Edwin also reduced the bulging brow ridge that is on the model, a feature in some early humans Elisabeth Daynes' other work, the fine art: https://www.elisabethdaynes.com/contemporary-art-works/ [/qb][/QUOTE]Phillip Edwin‚ in my view‚ does his own artistic and scientific sensibilities a great disservice by limiting himself to basically Photoshopping other artists' clay models; this approach is no different from tracing. I would love to him use his own observations‚ his own judgment‚ etc. — that's science. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Archeopteryx: [qb] Here is a version from Ancestral Whispers https://i.ibb.co/8gfGCKX/Mechta-Afolou.jpg https://i.ibb.co/KhmMsst/Mechta-Afolou-AW-sm.jpg [QUOTE] The people of the Iberomaurusian culture once encompassed most of North Africa. They stood at 170-175cm on average and exhibited robust caucasoid features. Modern natives of North Africa largely descent from these hunter-gatherers. [/QUOTE] https://ancestralwhispers.org/reconstructions/mechta [/qb][/QUOTE]In my earlier response above‚ I tried to account for the radical morphological changes that occurred in the Levant with the transition from hunting-foraging to sedentary farming and to pastoralism. Ancestral Whispers has Northwest African hunter-gatherers going from this: [IMG]https://i.ibb.co/XFQ1cCq/Aterian-honhdz.jpg[/IMG] to this: [IMG]https://i.ibb.co/hgT9m1B/Mechtoid-Reconstruction-2-xf41gl.jpg[/IMG] without a radical change in subsistence strategy‚ diet. [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] there is some funny stuff on this Ancestral Whispers site: https://ancestralwhispers.org/pricing ^^^ _______________________________________ just $40 to $500 per reconstruction> https://ancestralwhispers.org/pricing they do maps too https://ancestralwhispers.org/maps/genetic-maps [/qb][/QUOTE]For $500 they will tell you what you want to hear. I think this is one of the reasons Élisabeth Daynès's work (which is exhibited all over Europe) depicts all early humans as looking like modern Europeans — except for primitive human species like Homo Erectus and Homo Ergaster‚ they are depicted with dark skin :D ... Ironically‚ according to [URL=https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/ase/122/3/122_140827/_html/-char/en]José María Bermúdez de Castro & María Martinón-Torres[/URL] "[i]Homo antecessor[/i] exhibits most of the derived morphological features related to the modem-like face, as well as a derived (sapiens) facial growth remodeling pattern and modem pattern of dental development." [URL=http://dx.doi.org/10.1098/rstb.2015.0237]Chris Stringer[/URL] says this H. Antecessor morphology "probably evolved and re-evolved several times in human evolution." [URL=https://youtu.be/K4DNpMAf3aI]Johannes Krause[/URL] thinks modern human facial morphology is almost indistinguishable from Homo Erectus [/QB][/QUOTE]
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