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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by rasol: [qb] ^ Great thread Doug, one of the best in years [QUOTE]The black earth both refers to the symbolism of the fertile soil[/QUOTE]^ Actually, there are few if any references to black EARTH in mdw ntr. When the AE reference themselves as Black, they sometimes paint THEIR SKIN jet Black.... in these instances, there is no reference to earth, dirt, soil or the waters of the nile, whatsoever. The KM.t seldom if ever refer to black waters of the nile for example. If you have actual references to black water or black earth from Egyptian text please present. I say, that none exists, and the notion of black water and black dirt is a Eurocentric ruse, to destract from the reality of Black people. I think you should not further this distraction. Your own brilliant collection of pictures demonstrates the reality of black people. There is not a single image that can show a reference to black soil, or black water. Why is that? [/qb][/QUOTE]Rasol, why do you respond to my posts as if I am some newbie to Egypt and its history? NO, black earth means black earth. It refers to BOTH the color of the earth AND the first HUMANS of the earth and is SYMBOLIC of the force and power of creation. That symbolism is FUNDAMENTAL to Egyptian cosmology. It isn't a ONE OR THE OTHER issue, it is BOTH. Fundamentally, what it means is that BLACKS are the first humans created on earth and the sacred connection between ALL mankind and the force of creation in the universe. Isis, Heru and Wosir (Osiris) are SYMBOLIC of the force of creation and regeneration as a FUNDAMENTAL force of biology and genetics, which TIES ALL THINGS to the great throne of Osiris, the primeval essence of human creation, ie the Great Black, the LIVING EARTH, the SEED and essence of the living spirit of creation in the flesh, BORN from the earth. When I speak of the black earth and black seed, THAT is what I am referring to, which IS INDEED what is symbolized in ancient Egyptian cosmology. This has NOTHING to do with Eurocentric attempts to create a FALSE DICHOTOMY where the symbolism of BLACKNESS as it relates to fertility or the earth, thereby means it CANNOT be related to skin color. OBVIOUSLY, in Egyptian cosmology, with its MULTI LAYERED SYMBOLISM, things are not that SIMPLE. Quote from the Pyramid texts: [QUOTE] 626a. To say: O Osiris N., stand up, lift thyself up; 626b. thy mother Nut has brought thee forth; Geb has wiped thy mouth for thee. 626c. The Great Ennead avenge thee; 626d. they put for thee thine enemy under thee. 627a. Carry thou (him who is) greater than thou, said they to him, in thy name of "He of the Great Saw Palace." 627b. Lift (him up who is) greater than thou, said they, in thy name of "He of the Great Land Nome." 628a. Thy two sisters Isis and Nephthys come to thee; they heal thee 628b. complete and great, in thy name of "Great Black," 628c. fresh and great, in thy name of "Great Green." 629a. Behold, thou art great and round like the "Great Round"; 629b. behold, thou are bent around, and art round like the "Circle which encircles the nb.wt"; 629c. behold, thou art round and great like the "Great Circle which sets." 630a. Isis and Nephthys protected thee in Siūt, 630b. even their lord in thee, in thy name of "Lord of Siūt"; p. 126 630c. even their god in thee, in thy name of "God." 631 a. They adore thee, so that thou shalt not (again) withdraw from them, in thy name of "Dwȝ-ntr" (or, "divine Dwȝ"); 631b. they take care of thee, so that thou mayest not (again) be angry, in thy name of "Dndr.w-boat." 632a. Thy sister comes to thee, rejoicing for love of thee. 632b. Thou hast placed her on thy phallus, 632c. that thy seed may go into her, (while) it is pointed like Sothis. 632d. Horus the pointed has come forth from thee as Horus who was in Sothis. 633a. Thou art pleased with him, in his name of "Spirit who was in the Dndr.w-boat"; 633b. he avenges thee, in his name of "Horus, the son, who avenges his father." [/QUOTE]From: http://www.darksideofthenet.com/ista/egy/pyt/pyt19.htm This is an all encompassing world view not simply a one dimensional idea. And it represents TRUTH, literally, symbolically and HISTORICALLY, which is why it is so powerful to begin with. For humans were born in Africa and the result of the forces of creation, which makes them the original SEED of the earth which was carried to the four corners of the earth. Which makes Egyptian cosmology more than some made up mythological fairy tales told to please the crowd. It represents potent historical, biological, anthropological truths, tied into a political framework. It is the original PASSION play or drama of life itself and has powerful imagery underlying it, which actually reflects on the fundamental biological essence of human life. And another image that I forgot to post earlier, showing another tradition that has African roots: Seti I lassoing the sacred bull at Abydos: [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Pharoah_with_Lasso.JPG[/IMG] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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