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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mystery Solver: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: [b]The best I can make out for [i]A3MW[/i] is that it was generically applied to all peoples northeast and east of [i]T3 WY[/i].[/b] As such there's no one English word to appropriately apply save the specialized meaning for Asiatic (where it doesn't mean central and far east Asia).[/QUOTE]If the understanding is that T3 Wy was meant to convey "The Two Lands" denoting Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt, then is it made known in some specific Mdu Ntr texts that *all* people northeast and east of T3Wy were Aamu? This has been one of the primary questions consistently asked here. As you can see from Cotonou's post, the Aamu appellative seems to have had various contexts, some of which have been enhanced in understanding by the accompanying determinatives. [QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: Many other AE noted precise ethnies fit under the [i]A3MW[/i] umbrella. Conquest stelae are the best place to uncover the plethora of "sub-A3MW" "Asiatics."[/QUOTE]Is it this stelae that tells us that specified discrete ethnic groups all fall under "Aamu"? If so, is the primary text attesting to this available to cite? [QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: Some of [i]A3MW[/i] ethnies located in what today is Syria are individually named [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=005572#000003]here[/URL], but were the Hittites also considered [i]A3MW[/i]? Another thing I wonder is if Persians were ever noted as [i]A3MW[/i]. [/QUOTE]Yeah, I've seen that list of names, and I followed it up with questions that remain as question marks, in terms of how we know for sure that these people were referenced as "Aamu". As for question of the "Hittites", that would be a good one; can't imagine why they would be out of the Aamu "club", so to speak, if indeed it was meant to be an appellative of just about anyone from the east of Egypt. The same should apply to the Persians. [QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: [b]SIDEBAR[/b] I'd always considered Asiatic to be a pejorative [QUOTE][i]Avoid any terms that may give offense to a particular nationality or group. Many pejorative terms are considerably more subtle than those given above. For instance, Asiatic means the same thing as Asian, but is considered insulting by most Asians (a fact recognized even by Webster's).[/i] [URL=http://www.idrc.ca/en/ev-105658-201-1-DO_TOPIC.html#philos]International Development Research Centre[/URL][/QUOTE]but this no longer seems to be the case since there are organizations in Asia (presumably run by Asians not colonials) employing Asiatic in their titles.[/QUOTE]Well, the term "Aamu", which has been taken for granted to be tantamount to "Asiatic" without supporting evidence, appears to have been a pejorative by itself, particularly where no determinative accompanies the term, as seen in Cotonou's examples. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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