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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by xyyman: [qb] From the piece[/qb][/QUOTE]Piece of garbage made from mixed up facts, you mean. [QUOTE][qb]“establish a POSSIBLE chronology for said event” – ie timeline .. .which I have been asking for.[/qb][/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Originally posted by rasol: [qb] There were no Northern Europeans during the Ice Age. All Europeans [proper] descend from ice refugeum in the South. [IMG]http://www.dnaheritage.com/images/masterclass/europe_haplogroups_1.jpg[/IMG] This corresponds to the following genetic lineages.... [IMG]http://www.dnaheritage.com/images/masterclass/europe_haplogroups_2.jpg[/IMG] ^ However the *main* male lineage in Greece, is actually Neolithic dervied E3b, so modern Greeks are paternally Afro-Asian and European. Greeks are not fully European genetically, period. There is no mystery regarding where Europeans come from. Marc Washington, as Djehuti notes, is simply someone who photo-chops a make-believe history for anyone uneducated enough to take him seriously. [/qb][/QUOTE]^ There you have it! [QUOTE][qb]many of the first Europeans carried a phenotype similar to modern Sub-Saharan Africans[/qb][/QUOTE]Correct. [QUOTE][qb]– African looking people living in Europe ie black Europeans[/qb][/QUOTE]Actually more like 'brown' since they probably became lighter than black from adapting to Central Asian climates, but.. [QUOTE][qb]It is safe to assume that by the Bronze Age (3300 BC) Europeans had phenotypes similar to what we see today in Western Northern Eurasia –[/qb][/QUOTE]Yes they had those phenotypes [i]by that time[/i]. [QUOTE][qb] ie modern Europeans appeared. Supported by the Upenn study[/qb][/QUOTE]They did not "suddenly appear". They developed from the first Europeans. [QUOTE][qb]These sorts of haplogroup I carrying Europeans represent the "Real Whites". Greeks look very different from these people because Greeks have substantial Sub-Saharan[/qb][/QUOTE]Greek WERE those white people only they MIXED with RECENT HAPLOGROUOP E CARRYING IMMIGRANTS! - [QUOTE][qb]ie the Greek were NOT considered “real” white in 3300BC!!!![/qb][/QUOTE]EEEHH! Wrong! [QUOTE][qb]My speculation is they remained that way for a long time that is why there still have african blood[/qb][/QUOTE]Your speculation is wrong and stems from an [i]incomprehension of data[/i]. [QUOTE][qb]There you go Rasol/Djehuti - Guys!! No need to reply.[/qb][/QUOTE]Of course we don't [i]need[/i] to reply and correct your mixed-up jibberish! [QUOTE][qb]Keep working on that degree. Because if you cannot read between the lines you have a HARD road ahead. Regurgitating stuff you read does not imply intelligence. ANALYZING the data is where there is proof in the pudding.[/qb][/QUOTE][b]ROTFLH[/b] :D One must first know how to comprehend what the data says in order for it to be [i]properly[/i] analyzed! Sorry but you FAIL in that regard! [QUOTE][qb]Furthermore – it does matter what the topic is about it is what was said, once not taken out of context. My claim is out there again sustained in the piece. Greeks WERE NOT “real whites. Only about 3300BC there were “real whites’’ what was there before were AFRICANS. Summary – AFRICANS inhabited Europe for several thousand years before the “real whites’ appeared. End of Story.[/qb][/QUOTE]WRONG. More like the end of YOUR story! [QUOTE][qb]The truth is out now.[/qb][/QUOTE]Of course! The truth has [i]been[/i] out. And the truth is you are a complete idiot. :D [/QB][/QUOTE]
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