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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] ^ Yes but nowhere on your map does not show the Vandals and other Germanic tribes originating from "the steppes". The Germanic tribes are indigenous to Europe also! And those indigenous people they terrorized and murdered were also white. [b]LOL[/b] :D [QUOTE]Originally posted by rasol: [qb] It's also clear that R1b the most common haplotype in Western Europe emergies primarily from the Iberian glacial refugeum, and *not* from 'the steppes' within the historical era. Repeating - the steppes - as a mantra ignores the biohistory of Europe. There were ice-ages, populations retreated into 3 specific shelters.... the genetic structure in Europe still reflect this historical reality. This thread is another sobering lesson for those who think they can keep quoting outdated/distorted 19th century race constructs and ignoring genetics. You're using wooden sticks against sub-machine guns. Your [arguments] are already dead, you just don't know it, yet.... [IMG]http://www.dnaheritage.com/images/masterclass/europe_haplogroups_2.jpg[/IMG] [/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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