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[QUOTE]Originally posted by rasol: [QB] As for the rest of your largely beside the point commentary... [QUOTE]The CroMagnon man replaced the Neanderthals.[/QUOTE]CroMagnon is a reference to caves in France, the term has no standing in current anthropology as a morphology, sub-species or lineage. [QUOTE] The scientific data makes it clear that these Europeans, CroMagnon man carried the N haplogroup.[/QUOTE]^ The above makes clear that you still don't understand lineology in genetics. Here is what Spencer Wells has to say..... [i]Haplogroup N, like M, is one of two groups that descend directly from haplogroup L3. Early members of this group lived in the eastern Mediterranean region and Western Asia. Some members bearing mutations specific to haplogroup N formed many groups of their own which went on to populate much of the rest of the globe. These descendants are found throughout Asia, [b]Europe[/b], India, and the Americas. However, because [b]almost all of the mitochondrial lineages found in the Near East and Europe descend from N[/b], it is considered a western Eurasian haplogroup. [/i] [QUOTE] Few if any contemporary Europeans carry this gene.[/QUOTE]Actually there is no known population on Earth which has *underived* N lineages, which in turn, likely derives from L3, in Africa 50 thousand + years ago - rather Europeans, and most all Eurasians have DERIVED N lineages. The question is -when do European linage derive- what is their mrca? The answer is *the paleolithic*, according to Underhill, Wells and every one who knows what they are talking about. As we know, this leaves you in the position of claiming -> there is nothing to debate, which translates to: you can't refute anything. Isn't that so? Honestly, you and Marc don't seem to be able to grasp the basics of population genetics, and we've been trying to teach you on this forum for over a year now. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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