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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] I where you diverge is in your definition of "contemporaneous". You are talking about civilizations that did not exist prior to 1000 B.C. for the most part and those that did exist we do have records for trade with Egypt. So the question SHOULD be what happened to the Egyptian navy between the time of Rameses II and the 23rd Dynasty. The period after the 21st dynasty is generally considered as the LATE PERIOD and most define this time as a period of GREAT DECLINE in Egypt, relative to its power and expanse in the "golden age" of earlier periods. Therefore, you are talking about an Egypt that did not have control over the wood and timber of Byblos. Did not have the powerful army and navy of prior periods and who did not have the ability to control large areas outside its own borders. This is the period that saw the rise of the Phoenicians, Carthagenians, Numidians, Mauretanians and other groups WHO DID NOT EXIST when Egypt was in its "golden age". The cultures that DID exist DID trade and have contact with Egypt and the evidence is there for it. So why are you asking about the power and might of the Egyptian navy when Egypt was in the last stages of its existence and nominally under the control of various foreign Empires? And why would you equate the status and power of Egypt at this waning point of its civilization with Egypt at the height of its power? Egypt had a navy from the OLD KINGDOM and they SENT BOATS to the sea to TRADE with those cultures and people that existed at the time in the Mediterranean as well as along the Red Sea. The fact that we don't have a full archeaological record of every ship and every artifact that may have been sent via sea at this time is to be expected as there isn't much in the way of maritime evidence for ANY culture from this period, due to its antiquity. But we do have A TON of evidence IN EGYPT from this time, on tomb walls in writing and in the burials of the boats themselves. So again, what are you saying that all these boats never went to sea? How do you know that? As another writer put it, there is LESS evidence in terms of actual boats and other "maritime" artifacts from the Agean in the time period of the Old Kingdom, yet most authors say these people travelled the seas. Yet and still you have TONS of boats and other evidence from Egypt and somehow people say "there isn't enough evidence". I mean what in the world do you expect from 5000 years ago? And just think, if the Egyptians DIDN'T bury boats and DIDN'T bury models and DIDN'T make artwork and carvings in their burials, they would think they had NO NAVY AT ALL sea or river. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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